Other than gaming, I know there's a certain selection of people needing Windows for school and/or work purposes. For me it's because my college classes require the Respondus Lockdown browser when taking exams. It only supports Mac and Windows.
I cannot fathom why someone would bash an os for being “too easy.” Making hard things easier is the entire reason I bought a computer. If I want things to be hard I can do basically anything a computer can do with an abacus and a stone chisel, and that stone slab is just as customizable as any Linux os if not more so. Being easy is the point.
@@bobbybologna3029 that’s just not true, but even if it was, how does that fact that something appeals to “idiots” make it any less appealing for you? The only reason I can fathom someone thinking “Ugh, people less smart than me use this thing, therefore I can’t use it.” Is pure elitism and nothing more.
@@Vgamer311 Usually those who know more get annoyed by idiot proof things because such things tent to limit their ability to do whatever they want with their software and hardware. A good reason many hate Apple things that just tell you "this is what you can do take it or leave it".
@@SIPEROTH i call BS on this, you want to configure anything as an Advanced user on windows use the Powershell, the same as using the Terminal on Linux, what your on about is the people who think they are advanced because they know how to access a control panel. This is my biggest problem with the linux lot, oh it's to simple to use you can't customize it, you damn well can if you know what your doing, get around the security policies or disable them it all possible using Powershell but then they don't know how to do it, but at the same time they expect people to use the Shell on Linux it like erm fucking pot kettle... learn how to use the Shell on windows...
Something I appreciate about your take is that you focus on the average user. A lot of people on the internet assume that everyone is a power user or wants to learn every single thing about how their computer works, which really isn't the case. Most people just want to watch TH-cam, and have their games run without crashing.
I used to have that issue. Since I see it as easy to learn, I assume everyone asking for help would be familiar with software and tech. In reality, a lot of people get anxious when looking at their device's settings menu. Using a device and understanding the inner workings, even at the surface level, are two different things.
@@hamzasultan96 For real, I'm an intermediate linux user. I have no fear using the terminal and I can figure out how to use the config files I need, but somedays I just want my games to run, that's why I mostly install things through steam, because it's easy, and even games that aren't officially steam deck certified still run well under proton, or even ge-proton
The "apperance" can also be daunting, I started dabbling with Linux when I got my Steam Deck and even to this day I get a bit stressed when I need to run terminal. Doesn't matter how much I've read and prepared for what I'm trying to do. Once the terminal opens and there's a wall of text I can feel my confidence and motivation evaporate @@hamzasultan96
One other reason to at least dabble in Linux is that it breaks that mindset. Even if you don't daily-drive a GNU+Linux distribution primarily or long-term, it changes how you think about things like security, privacy, and how to really make even Windows do more of what you want it to do and less of what you don't.
My first experience with Linux was trying it out in a Virtual Machine. I really wish people in the Linux community recommended Windows users to try Linux in a VM before switching. They get to try different distros and get their feet wet without having to commit to switching their whole system.
@@LiamNajor there's no reason to worry about something like GPU pass through. I'm talking about people using VMs to dip their toes into Linux. Also, I'd say setting up something simple in VirtualBox or VMWare is arguably easier than installing Linux on bare metal
@@jeremiebornais400 I couldn't get a VM working no matter how hard I tried last time I tried...7 years ago. However, back then I had a thinkpad t61 running ubuntu. If setting up a VM is easier then installing it, then either something has changed since then or there was something obvious my dumb child brain missed.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if I edited this comment so the only way people can find out what it originally said is by deciphering it via the replies? Lol
Dual boot or Virtualize. Get your toes wet... The water gets warmer the longer you're in it. When you need to get stuff done, use windows... When you have time to learn, switch over to your Linux. Linux is getting better every day, and LMG pulling this challenge has actually spurred a lot of discussion regarding new user experience.
Yes and no, well, for pc parts, theres already a driver for that and it's technically widely supported, and the ones that dont have a built-in driver from the kernel, can just be installed independently For peripherals on the other hand, you most likely need to find a community alternative, and follow the instructions of course. That's how it becomes complicated.
It's the other way around. It's not that Linux doesn't want to support it: it's the companies of that unsupported software chose to not support it. Linux is free and open source. They can give support to it without paying Linux royalties or licensing fees.
>90% If it were 2011 then this would be true, but now a days a lot of software is comptable(expect for the adobe suit but their is alternatives to that)
As an Arch Linux user, I loved this video. It's so refreshing to see a completely unbiased video explaining how Linux isnt perfect and giving them reasons why they should and shouldnt use it while also showing them that they can still do most of the things they did on Windows on Linux and that its not as hard as some might think. Being unbiased with this sort of thing is so important imo instead of the typical cherry-picking that most Linux users like to do. I also loved that this video is just straight up hilarious lol.
As a music producer, the singular reason I haven’t switched to Linux is because of DAW’s. FL Studio, Ableton, Pro Tools, etc are all basically unusable in Linux even through wine (since they don’t have actual Linux builds outputted by the DAW developers). Same with VST Plug-ins. It’s a real shame. The only DAWs that are practically available on Linux are terrible.
you've nearly convinced me, however there's just so many 'but' statements like yeah you CAN do most things, but a good bit of them require workarounds & the other half aren't supported yet
Ubuntu was perfectly fine And then I tried to do a long, very important file transfer over USB 2.0. They were vidoes from a trip I was undertaking and the camera was running out of space, so easy I'll just do a file transfer Linux can handle that Yeah 75% of the footage got lost because of a Linux bug. It transferred every file to 4GB and moved on to the next file. Something about RAM caching and dumping it to the drive and it can get confused by slow file transfer rates I switched right back to Windows. As much as we complain about the OS it at least doesn't trip on such mundane tasks. "You can implement this fix yourself to make the problem go away", that's a real nice solution if I didn't already lose hundreds of GB, which absolutely would not have happened running Windows. On principle I'm not running my OS to bug fix and find workarounds for every tiny, unpredictable thing
@@plumcakey nah m8 I know neither my camera nor Ubuntu use FAT. I've transfered greater than 16 GB files to it before on other projects with high-speed external SSDs. And the camera regularly records 28+ GB single files for me. And that attitude. Everything is boiled down to the user's fault. Even if I was somehow running FAT on my Linux drive in your hypothetical, shouldn't the OS say "The file is bigger than 4 GB on your FAT drive so you'll lose some data. Please figure this problem out" "Git good" does not apply to problems I cannot forsee. And again is not the principle I want to by daily driving an OS with
I agree with Muta in principle, but let's be honest... Linux is largely for computer enthusiasts. Those who know what they're doing. Most people who use le 'poot are casual users i.e. not coders, not technological whiz kids, and who go to their IT department at work to solve even the most minor of inconveniences. If something goes wrong on Linux, people have to do the trouble-shooting themselves. Sure there are fabulous communities that post regularly to forums and are more than willing to help out fledgling Linux users, but let's be real... For most people? That's just too much effort and kind of annoying. People want things that work out of the box and, if something DOES go wrong, they have a fall guy who will pick up the pieces and fix everything for them. Most Linux distributions are fantastic and often times more stable than Windows, don't get me wrong! But, without that fall guy, without that clear line of financial responsibility, for most? It's a no-go. You are asking a lot from people if you expect them to go from paid services, which comes with all the legal requisites you'd expect, to freeware OS (Yes some distributions are sold, but most aren't. And yes some distributors do have support available, but again most won't have the infrastructure in place to help people in all the ways that Windows can). Also, as others have mentioned, Linux is in NO WAY as user-friendly as windows... If you think it is? You're the non-casual user I was just talking about and, although I'm happy you're having a great experience, those experiences are not going to translate over to nearly as many people as you think they will. Sidenote: Muta your point about terminal is null because, although Windows has clickable directives to do things instead of just having Linux terminal and that's it, you said it... They have PowerShell i.e. command prompts too? Those clickable buttons, pages, software etc etc are for those who require a user-friendly straightforward OS. If you don't need that and you're a power user? Well, use PowerShell then. No one is stopping you. (From both a casual Windows and Linux user, lmao)
to be fair I think the total freedom about linux distros is both a good and bad thing. on one hand, if you know what you're doing: *it's fucking awesome*! because you can essentially do whatever you want without having to negotiate with the operating system. you are quite literally the god of it and thus the only limit is your imagination. not to mention how it's also more secure than windows with the permission system for instance, where instead of it being "are you admin or not", you can instead modify the read, write, and execute flags directly for even better customization. but on the other hand, like you said...the "if you know what you're doing" bit.
@@digitalcyclone7218 Exactly! I think in time Linux will be comparable to Windows. We are just not at that point yet. And, although I respect Muta, he is literally a power user... I think he forgets that most people are unwilling to do all the legwork that Linux requires. I personally think it's fun! But, I'd be lying if I said it was my main desktop. I still want/need a computer that can play all my games, run mainstream software, and that I know is user-friendly and that I can rely on when I need a simple experience. I'd love to go Linux full time but, right now - with the lack of support for various programs and, of course, its infamous gaming issues - it's just not viable for me.
@@eld1rt honestly I think that will never happen. As Digital Cyclone above said, the distros are both the blessing and the curse of Linux - a blessing for enthusiasts, and a curse for pretty much everyone else. I work as a video/photo editor and I simply can't switch over because there are no warranties that the software I need can reliably run there, and most of the professional-grade softwares for these jobs don't have Linux versions because the inconsistencies between distros don't allow them to build a version for Linux that could be profitable, because they wouldn't be able to guarantee it would work for every distro around. Unless Linux goes through a very unlikely consolidation proccess into a single or a handful of distros, it will never be truly challenging Windows (or Mac) for position.
I agree, linux is difficult to use for many people, and no, linux enthusiasts and elitists, you can't justify it, it's just hard to use for many people, it doesn't get easier to use if it's more private, it just not easy and you can't do anything about it. you can't just say windows is trash and linux is way better and expect people to move to linux like it's the only way. linux is hard to use. (for me it's easy but I know the frustration)
I've used Linux for over 10 years. I install Linux, then select what I want to have installed. With windows, I uninstall what I don't want, then install what I want.
That's windows and main reason why it's the best os. Windows is the only OS that you can literally throw anything at it and it's like "OK lets do it" Fuck linux xD
@@cookieface80 It was never popular... so what are you talking about? Popular as a linux distro perhaps, but that's like beeing the biggest fish in a barrel of autists.
Yeah, unfortunately for gaming, windows has the most support, and is the most well known OS. Despite the fact that for coding, Linux is the goat for me, I still prefer Windows for more gaming/casual things. It is easier to use than Linux imo
Linux probably will be greater in the future but windows is a lot more comfortable and has been for a decade or so, once Linux goes beyond mainstream then people might start considering it as a permanent option.
“Linux will be greater in the future” was being said for the last 20 years. Linux Desktop is still going to be shit if distro developers won’t start standardising how things should work and look across ALL distros.
Using Windows or Linux boils down to two things for me: Windows software compatibility and anti-cheat. I use Linux on my laptops and Windows on my gaming machine. Hopefully Proton will get some quantum leaps in development once Steam Deck comes out.
@The Cat ...Mind giving me some recommendations on good story based games? Something for me to look forward to since I'm gonna start learning this ubuntu thing since I'm getting tired of the issues with windows. It's starting to give me the zuckerborg vibe recently
The biggest problem with Linux support currently comes from multiplayer game developers. Given how Linux operates it's hard for them to monitor other system resources for cheat software so they have a hard time supporting it for anything beyond single-player games. Maybe valve can solve the issue with their upcoming anti-cheat stuff but it will take some time for the big guys to want to test it on their AAA titles.
mfw some pvp minecraft servers does a better job at detecting cheats than clientside anticheats + clientside ac sucks because people eventually find a way to fully bypass it
A fundamental aspect of information security is, "never trust the client." Yet that's exactly how client-side anti-cheat mechanisms work. They're security theater, not real security. If you think they actually stop cheating you're living in a fantasy world. I don't think there's a conspiracy between Microsoft/Epic/game publishers to keep people on Windows with these basically useless client-side anti-cheat tools but I wouldn't put it past them based on their history of monopolistic and--in the case of Epic--severe and illogical anti-Linux bias.
Have tried many times to switch to linux but my necessity to run games and the adobe suite always gets me back to windows. BUT thank you for treating people like me (linux noobs) with respect, and not with contempt, like many other forums or videos i have come across. You have earned my respect and my subscription. Looking forward to more of your content. Thank you.
@@realseal_6252 doesn't really work all the time, though. Some software is pretty stubborn (Clip Studio, AutoCad, Adobe Suite as far as the ones I use). But personally my own laptop uses linux, and my work pc is Windows (but that one is provided by my employer). I even have a mac mini if I want to mess around with OSX. Different hardware for different needs :)
Yeah.. I went back to 98 after going to ME, I skipped Vista, but otherwise? I have been on the cutting edge and beta testing for every Windows since 3.11. Windows 11 offends me with it's existence after all the promises MS made. This should have been 10 Plus+ or something. I'm going to stick to 10 for a while and might go to Linux after if needed, but I really don't like 11. Not even just for the stupidity of changes to go graphics, but removal of various system settings and removal of ability to customize the OS to what I need. They even 'patched' a regedit to put the start menu back... what even was the sense of that? :(
@@Artimidorus what windows 11 has done to 10 is the same as what 7 did to vista. Linux constantly tries to reinvent the wheel instead of getting the fundamentals right. If you switch you will quickly realise that the grass isn’t greener. So go for it and you’ll see.
@@V1CT1MIZED have you used anything except windows lmaoo, its retarded to say "linux" (im guessing you're thinking about something like ubuntu) tries to reinvent the wheel when literally the only thing that defines an os for most people the de which you can pick anyway. want a windows like experience? use cinnamon. want cinnamon with tons of eyecandy? use kde. customization is the bread and butter of linux in general
Why though? If you have used it for 20 years it’s doing well. Unless it’s doing something that you don’t like your just going to piss yourself off if you use Ubuntu or another distro for anything other than the base install.
People that refuse to learn how to use a computer above an essentially childish level deserve to have their data/telemetry collected. If you want daddy microsoft to hold your hand in your computer use, this is what you get
most sound devices work out of the box (like my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2), the Elgato (is it a capture card) could also work out of the box, Linux has almost all drivers that are available already in the system itself
@@soledfamily ...forces your frame rate to 60? what the fuck are you talking about with this one? I use a mostly all Elgato setup with my 240hz monitor and am not "locked" in any way.
Ya I get that some distros have little things that are annoying for some users like a distro where it gives u a dummy audio output so you have no audio or if the distro dosnt support your graphics driver so if you have a 4k system everything is tiny and you can't change the display unless you screw around with xrandr for a bit or there's the distros that don't detect your wifi card but all these problems mainly occur if you have decently new hard ware to where developers havnt released support for the distro but shouldn't run into this if you have a older system but that's why I'm getting rid of my 4k laptop for an older laptop so I dont have to fix these problems all the time cuz distro hoppin is a terrible addiction
@@MC-BOT Come now, no need to start an OS war in the comment section. Every OS has its pros and cons and we should respect everyone's choices to stick with one and not the other. I do wish Windows would stop having more bugs and get more stable though.
I'm so tempting to try out Linux one day and thank you Muta for making the introduction of Linux look so inviting and easy to use no matter what level of understanding that the person has. *Wow! I wasn't expecting my comment to make this much traction! Thank you for all the responses to this message!
If you only want to try it out, then it's pretty easy. You can boot into a live usb and see if everything you need works and you can experiment with different desktop environments/distros. It's not that big of a commitment.
@@GyroZeppeli90 Instructions unclear Deleted windows Yes this just happened to me while I was downloading Ubuntu, I don't regret it since it was windows 8 and not even an activated one
One thing, that you might've shown to the new users is how to install software via a GUI software centre, since many people might struggle with the terminal being text only, spitting out dependencies, etc. and installing via a web page is not really showing the beauty of secure software installation. That's how you do it on windows, downloading viruses from sketchy websites. Otherwise a great introduction!
@@gam3kid No it doesn't because only one os is running at a time. It could even make your pc faster because since OS partition shrinks, filesystem runs faster. Stop believing everything you read on the internet "Gam3kid"
All I always say is "if the Linux community really wants people to use Linux, they need to stop using the terminal for a month (don't even open it), write down all the annoyances they encounter, create tickets for each and every one of them, and actually fix them instead of de-prioritizing them and pushing them to the bottom of the backlog because there's some bleeding edge features that simply must be implemented immediately and the critical issues they introduce have priority, otherwise stop complaining that people don't use Linux" And that's not even talking about gaming because no matter what people say, there are many games that are not on Steam so Proton is not gonna save you, Lutris isn't gonna save you either and even with Winetricks, wine sucks, I don't want to spend half of my weekend creating a prefix and messing with it just to play one game, I just want to PLAY it. Create an Open Source alternative to Proton that works with any game in which the community can make custom prefixes so that games and software can run out of the box, and you'll have your gaming silver bullet. Until the Linux community gets it through their thick skulls that the average user is extremely intolerant to inconvenience and doesn't want to tinker, Linux is gonna remain a niche OS for nerds and Windows is gonna stay on top.
Agree a million percent! I played a lot of buggy games in the past with obscure errors nobody would report to the devs, and it's like some Linux users just... Ignore very grave issues just because they can work around it. I don't want to worm around ir, I want a smooth, detour free experience.
@Hadrim Losthor The thing is, most things on Linux can already be done in the GUI. Linux desktop has popups and animations galore as well. Performance does not suffer. The reason for bad performance on Windows is that Microsoft really does not care. Microsoft CAN optimize, see Windows 8.1. They just do not, because people really are that stupid enough to blame their hardware instead of the software.
@UCjuI5PYwggtSNNxOn8ByAcw That's not quite right. It's closer to anti-cheat thinking virtualization is cheating. Which unfortunately is what happen when you use Proton or Wine. Some anti-cheats even recognize virtualized Windows as cheating. I think Muta had that issue with R6 some time ago
@@zac1497 I thought they've fixed that for Proton fairly recently. Or maybe it's in the Proton beta version only. I remember reading that it was in a patch note for it.
The problem that always stops my switch over is simply the lack of products supporting linux versions. I am a writer and use Scrivener almost exclusively. Programs like Wine do a good job at trying to port over more popular programs for artists (mostly games tho lol), but it seems scrivner is pretty unfocused on. Really sucks, but its the only program I cant compromise on
welp its almost the same on mac os x too like me but at lest linux and mac os x do get along very well sense they both are forks of some kind of unix linux system thats interchangeable! wine is a good example of how mac os x and linux code cross interacting with windows kernel
Manuskript, bibisco, and Emacs have similar functionality. Don't know how they compare, though, never used them or scrivner itself. Apparently scrivner version for Linux was abandoned, but it seems it does run in wine.
@@ashtiboy macOs and linux are completely diffferennt software, their source code is notyt really correlated, they aren't forks of a same previous software or anything like that. What happens is that both linux and macOs are *unix-like* systems; in other words, they both follow the unix philosophy, and most of the unix-like specifications, including stuff like basic shell commands and file hierachy, etc.; which is something windows doesn't do
About gaming, one thing many don't consider is they're expecting Windows games to work on Linux. It's honestly amazing the amount of support that's available considering. It's only going to get better.
DXVK runs most games better on linux, it even runs games better on windows, anyone who says the gaming isn't up to par at this point just has no idea what they're doing. The ONLY hiccup we have nowadays is anti-cheat and DX12, the former because those companies don't currently support linux, and the latter is because well DX12 doesn't run well on Windows either, thankfully because of that very few developers even bother using it.
It's funny that people make fun of others that want something "easy". Simplicity and ease of use has always been the key to success regardless of what product you are making. Yet these elitists are out there complaining if you don't make your life a headache.
That's a double-edged sword. Avoiding something because it's not simple isn't good practice UNLESS there is already a better alternative to take it's place. In this case, if Linux does everything users want, more power to Linux users.
I used to use Ubuntu on all my refurbished PCs I built from parts laying around my house. It worked great for all the basics and kept an otherwise outdated PC running reasonably well. Although I'm not likely to use Linux on a main desktop (unless it gets more native support) anything old I throw together, Ubuntu is my go to Linux distro.
@@zRussh arch - linux distribution KDE - display manager. you just have to think about linux as a console; everything goes through it, just like the old days with MSDOS. but there are some gangster applications like KDE that can be used as display managers and give your computer all of the visuals and stuff. if you don't like how "linux" looks, just change the display manager, it's simple as that.
@@zRussh No worries, Muta got your back. The way he explains it is pretty noob-friendly, which is exactly what you need when switching to linux. Don't bother with technical details until you need them, so you can learn in small steps and not get overwhelmed. And to make life more convenient, look at the desktop environment before installing. There are usually a few per distro (see their websites, you can download differnt versions and see images of how it will look). I personally run Linux Mint with cinnamon desktop, because beautiful. So: decide on a distro (ubuntu is fine, but there are many that may work), then decide on the desktop you like most. Tadaaaaaaa: You got yourself an OS. Really no magic here
I switched to Ubuntu with most of my devices. That helped a lot when I had to start doing some of my computations at work on a server with Red Hat. Having to switch to a no-GUI OS at work would have been terrible without prior experiences using Ubuntu. And then, I got me a Raspberry Pi to play around with, which runs Raspbian Lite. If you invest a bit of time it starts to be real fun to do stuff with that.
I amusingly started this backwards. I bought a couple Raspberry Pi's a couple years ago, and just in the last few months switched my PCs to Garuda Linux, now I'm dusting off the RPi's to actually get their projects moving. I'm holding the Steamdeck and Windows 11 responsible for finally motivating me to switch, my eagerness to try out the steamdeck and Windows 11 reminding me too much of my terrible Windows 8 experience has shoved me fully over to the FOSS/GNU/Linux community, and I'm actually liking it quite a bit so far. Only keeping Windows 10 around for Halo Infinite and my Windows Mixed Reality Headset, had good luck so far running the rest of my Steam library on Linux
Do you think it's fun to waste 4h debugging some driver issue people on osx or windows never have to spend any time with? In my experience people that work for a living and have some other hobbies than tinkering with computers don't wish to waste their time fighting with an operating system.
The thing about Linux is that for most users this journey starts and ends the moment they realise their software and/or hardware doesn't work on Linux out of the box because barely anyone supports Linux, so they'll bail. That's the sad reality. On a side note, I would argue that Linux Mint is a better beginning distro. It has more Windows-like interface, and is based on Ubuntu.
Kubuntu is one as well... Its just Ubuntu with KDE... Looks & operates like windows & you can still refer to the general Ubuntu community for troubleshooting.
I'm a fan of Mint however I can see his point. Ubuntu has some great features and looks and feel polished. Corporations if they use linux it is Ubuntu, so for the best begining experience Ubuntu is the right choice especially for mac users. But I installed my mom linux Mint and she loved it.
most of their *specialized* software/hardware. linux typically has alternative software (albeit there may be noticeable QoL differences) and most basic hardware works right out of the box.
Well, not only that, but certain games just aren't the same. FFXIV wasn't a smooth experience for me due to random framerate issues, and I had input lag in Melty Blood. I reinstalled windows even though I would prefer to keep using linux, the last thing I want after a long day at work is to have a less than optimal experience.
Word of warning. Use Rufus, not BalenaEtcher. Balena Etcher fucks with the partitions while writing to the USB which can soft brick your USBs. Please upvote so Muta sees this!
@@SomeRandomPiggo anything but balena bleacher lmao, I lost two usbs to bleacher until I repartitioned them with rufus, and even then there are still some issues
@@V1CT1MIZED yep, it's a widespread issue since most devs aside from Canonical endorse it because "muh sleek UI" and "muh ease of use", and the Balenaetcher devs claim it's not their software's fault, just every single ISO out there not doing it right, or the USBs were too cheap/fake or something.
Balena fried my 32gb sandisk name brand usb to the point where Windows wouldnt detect it even as its directly plugged in, so i literally had to get a new one and its a fucking cheap Onn. But i used Rufus on the new one and its perfectly healthy this time
One of many reasons why a lot of people don't even try to get their feet wet with Linux is because they do get attacked when asking questions from the know it all Linux community, so I do appreciate you saying that..
@@nuclearbomb9483 ok do it then. I'm just telling you that it's reliable and it never crashes. Plus, once you understand how to use a Mac, everything is a breeze.
You missed the opportunity of mentioning two distros whose names are both common ice cream flavors: Vanilla (a newer immutable distro) and Mint (Ubuntu-based, with a UI very similar to Windows)
As someone completely new to linux myself. The best solution to get me to trying it out was running it in a virtual machine, that way I keep my windows 10 for normal use since im fairly versed at it but can open an app and boot a fake computer running whatever flavor of distro id like. I use VirtualBox for my vm's.
Once you've chosen a distro, you could try dual boot, using a 2nd drive for your Linux installation. This way, you could still run apps and play games you can't get going on Linux and you will not curse so much when it crashes on you. If you decide to go back to Windows, you can use that 2nd drive for additional storage.
Just duel boot more and more distros support it now and give u options to duel boot instead of having to partition the duel boot manually I use qubes os so I'm good with what I got don't need no virtual box 🤣
Gonna watch this in chunks cause of time but, love what I saw so far. I really think Valve is going to push a much needed change for PC gaming with the Steamdeck. The new SteamOS looks absolutely amazing so far and they've made insane progress for 'it just works' compatibility in such a short time. Even the big anti cheats. I want Linux to become big for gaming, and I see Valve making it being adopted VERY fast. I hope. Cause Windows is getting very shitty lately.
Won’t take long for valve to erode away the Linux aspect exactly like google did with Android. People will see steam OS as it’s own thing separate to Linux and they’ll even label it like that on the steam stats page separate from Linux. Steam are putting profits first and they are being smart about it. Linux is but a means to an end. You’ll see and I look forward to it.
@@V1CT1MIZED ... Ok? You know valve has been dumping a lot into making Linux good right? And yes and no to money. Valve isn't a publically traded company. They have no shareholders. They don't care about profits in the way say Google or apple do. If profits were a concern, they wouldn't of went into VR hard, they wouldn't dump time and money in Linux, they wouldn't dump money into a handheld for a niche market (but will help PC gaming grow easily - it's already doing above expectations order wise). Of course steamos is its own thing. Everyone knows that. But it is a form of Linux at it's core and THATS the point. It MAKES it compatible. It makes it plug and play and easy. It's an open source option to get away from the cancer that windows is becoming. That's my interest in it.
@@V1CT1MIZED The things Valve does to Steam OS to make it just work for the average idiot, other devs will look at that and go "Huh, why did I never think to add that to my distro?"
Listen… I’d run Potato OS on a carrot before I’d run another Windows box period. If you use Arch, then cool, I’m happy for you I’ve used Fedora Redhat Edition when I was 16… nobody cares. Just don’t use Windows 💯🤷🏼♂️
I'd love to switch to linux. The issue is I have no guarantee my tablet software and my art software will work with it. As far as I understand CSP doesn't support linux in any fashion.
@@lynk7078 Considering how Windows 10 has been a pain in the ass when it comes to multi-booting, I don't think it''s worth it. It's better to run on a VM because windows bootloader goes funky all the time.
If you have a Huion tablet then you’re just fucked if you go to linux. Best you can do is set up a gaming windows VM, spoof it to look like it’s running on bare metal, and pass the tablet through and hope it will work. The KDE team has tried getting some tablet manufacturers to create linux comparability softwares iirc but it doesn’t seem to have been entirely successful.
So after watching a ton of Muta’s videos about Linux, and keeping up with Luke and Linus’s updates on the WAN show, I decided to give it a whirl myself. Installed POP!_os on my VR PC as a test bed. Hey, Beat Saber ran on my Index flawlessly. So I’ve now got a drive with POP! installed in my main gaming PC, and I’ve been “dual booting” ever since… Except it’s been in there for a few days and I haven’t actually booted back into Windows for anything… And I’m hoping I won’t have to. Honestly loving it so far. It’s my first real experience with Linux aside from playing around with Mint about five or so years ago. I’ll be sticking with it, I think.
Oh! A fellow PopOS user! I've been on the distro for a month and I'm not thinking of switching back, as gaming is really well supported! If you need any help on tweaking Wine or so to get games running, don't hesitate to ask me!
I only have one exception to your process; rather than use Balena, which takes up a whole stick with just one live image, I suggest Ventoy. Yeah, it's a _little_ more involved (barely more involved) to turn a stick into a Ventoy drive, but once you do, you can throw as many live images onto that sucker as will fit, plus folders. Example: My 32Gb Ventoy drive, right now, has Zorin 17 Pro, Fedora 40, _and_ Windows 11, plus Bibisco in three formats, .deb, .rpm, and .exe, _plus_ a couple fonts I want right out of the box, _plus_ my Vivaldi sync encryption key, _plus_ my custom Vivaldi theme. In short: Ventoy FTW.
A pro tip for getting third-party RGB lighting to work on Linux is to send emails to the company asking politely for their plans to support Linux. Sometimes they just need to show their bosses that there's demand for them to support Linux.
Good luck getting that. Here is how they react after reading your email: "Linux? LMAO" There are programs with a lot bigger demand than some trash RGB panel, and not just any software, software from companies with a lot more money and yet they still refuse to port it to linux.
I installed linux on my dad's laptop and he loved it! He only uses it for a few simple things and he was glad that all the "bullshit" that comes along with windows was gone
My 2 cents: I've used Linux as my daily driver laptop os since 2004. I have always needed to have a Mac or windows computer in addition to the Linux machine (either dual booting or a seperate box). The biggest issue that Linux has isn't compatibility with other software, it's compatibility with ITSELF. Fragmentation is a real issue, and it's much much worse on the desktop than it is on the server. And for anyone saying "it's gotten much better in the past few years" I've been hearing that since... well, 2004. Don't take this as disrespect, I absolutely love Linux as a hobby, ive done some amazing things with it that you cant do with anything else, and yes I use a Linux desktop still as my daily driver to this day. But the most accurate thing I ever heard about it is "Linux doesn't have games - Linux IS a game". If getting your computer to just work doesn't sound like a fun hobby, Linux is not for you.
Sorry you wouldn't use Windows apps on Mac OS? So why do you force Windows apps on Linux? Now navigating Games on Linux is a bit of a mess. To be expected with keeping the kernel virus free and exploits free. Android has already given us a blueprint on how to allow gaming in Linux. Windows patents are expiring so this is forcing Linus to double and triple the size of the kernel (NTFS3g). IMO Linus is playing it tough to stop gaming developers from getting root access to file system. Telemetry is just a fancy word for we are downloading info about system hardware, but yet no real answer to the data your collecting or screenshot of what will be sent to Nvidia. Well I trust Nvidia, but Linus doesn't want to review 5 million lines of code that you put under some app named "Cooking Cup Cakes" video game and it has Telemetry that exposes users to a exploits and data lose.
Depends on your distro. If you need all the software Linux has to offer, just use an arch based distro like Manjaro. The AUR is the largest software repository in the world.
To a new user, familiar with the windows paradigm, I agree, Linux is very fragmented. As someone who can really get Linux on its own terms, I see a distro as three things: an installer (or install process), a package manager, and whatever the distro maintainers wants to ship with the distro. I'm pretty sure I could get most things built for any Linux distro running on any other. I could be wrong though. I haven't ever been much of a distro hopper, and when I have hopped distros to see what they're like, it's usually things unrelated to compatibility. Maybe the distro won't boot properly, maybe it's slow as balls, maybe I just don't find the experience with the distro very compelling. I generally run Ubuntu/Mint when I just want something that works and Gentoo when I want to get serious. My experience with Gentoo may be what gives me my views on Linux, as it can really be whatever you want, and you can start with any distribution as just a text input and build it from there. The problem I find with other distros is that they're not as straight forward with you as Gentoo can be, and I'll be frank, they're package managers are almost never as flexible and robust as portage is.
@@gamezoid1234 the fragmentation problem isn't just with having different distros. I agree that most software can be built on different distros (im a debian user but I have a ton of respect for gentoo). The problem goes a lot deeper than that though. Different desktops. Different bootloaders. Different compositors. X vs Wayland. System d vs initv. Window managers. Pulseaudio vs alsa vs jackd. The list goes on and on, and every combination has some sort of incompatibility. On the server, this can be fixed with containers, but on the desktop it's a total mess. Linus Torvalds has a recent talk on this issue called I think "why linux desktop sucks" and it was very validating for me to hear since I have had the same issues for so long. I no longer have hope that linux desktop will improve, but I am happy and content with my Frankenstein debian-xfce-openbox-etc setup I have patched together for now (until an update breaks something)
Homestly, I like how Muta just said "Windows Bad" and procceeds how to tell even iPhone 17 users how to download, flash, and install Ubuntu. I haven't used Ubuntu except for setting up some Company Workstations. But A Good Distro I know of because of working on only 2 distros. Linux Mint seems to work really well, especially if you need to throw it at someone who only knows Windows Edit: Ubuntu Is good to start i dont disagree with Muta but just my person preference that I think For End users/ Home Users Mint Cinnamon is good for people staring out too with basically the same installation proccess
Creators of any kind still can't justify the move, Linux is good for sure but we'll need A LOT more support or A LOT more open tutorials on how to use everything we normally use.
If you want better support and open tutorials for FREE stuff... Write it your damned self. Linux doesn't exist to meet your use case. It exists so you can *make it* meet your use case. If you're not willing to bother with learning how to best use a new OS then *anything* other than Windows isn't for you. You've already lost. Your computing soul will be owned by Microsoft forever.
Not if you want to have an identical workflow, but that will likely never be the case. If you don't want to switch, certainly no one will make you, but if you decide that you do want to, you can't expect to bring all the program's you're used to with you. You might need to use KDenLive for video editing, Kritta for digital painting, something else for audio if that's what you create etc. You might have to learn new programs and workarounds and techniques, but you'll be free of microsoft. If you don't wish to be free of microsoft, then obviously you don't need to bother with switching.
@@Riskable3DPrinting This attitude is why Linux will continue to be obscure to the general public. Most people are just users. They use the software to work. Any decrease in productivity due to figuring out how to use software is wasted time (or finding out after hours of troubleshooting that their software of device is not compatible with linux).
@@Riskable3DPrinting Ah yes telling the people who have no time at all because of job(s), families, and lives outside of computers to learn programming so they can get a OS that will more than likely be shitter than something made by actual programmers like ubuntu. Also FYI at the end of the day no matter how you program Linux it's still Linux.
At 15:38 you're recommended to restart after an update. Not everything in the system is up-to-date whenever you update the system while it's running. You have to restart your computer for certain changes to take effect. In fact, Steam OS will require that you reboot after every update before it applies changes. Of course, your computer won't restart like 17 different times like on windows. It's one restart and you're completely good to go.
That's some good information. I'm compiling information on computer topics before I buy one for the first time in my life and I'm almost 30 hahahaha, anyway thanks for this tid bit of information mawi.
In my experience the “just works” distros recommend to restart. When I used Manjaro it would recommend that regardless of the update, but now that I use pure arch it doesn’t. So I guess it might be up to the distro maintainers.
@Watcher or you can just restart the services that require these new stuff without even logging out. as far as i know, the kernel can also be updated without needing to restart by using some specific programs/methods
You usually don't have to reboot unless the kernel itself gets an update (I know, you can even switch kernels without a reboot, but I don't think any desktop distro is set up that way), but you might have to relog or resort to the terminal to unload and reload modules or restart services. Then again, Linux usually starts so fast that you might as well reboot.
Uhhh, no. It depends completely on what you're updating. Applications will restart themselves, just like in Windows. Kernel changes, as well as GPU updates AFAIK, tell you to restart. For the most part, things that are being updated aren't running anyway. That's just not how the OS is.
I installed U4OS on my friend's old laptop that Windows 10 was crawling on (4GB RAM and a 5400RPM HDD). Not only does U4OS run screaming fast on these low specs but it is more visually appealing than say Lubuntu with multiple desktop environments and themes to choose from.
One of the big things for newbies is look and feel. They don't want a big shock to the system. So desktop environment choice is a big deal for them. The other things is software and hardware compatibility. People don't want to buy new hardware or shift away from all of their daily software.
@@WinVisten Yup, and maybe the second biggest is having to jump through many hoops before getting something to work. I would be lying if I said I didn't miss the 'download, click, install' of Windows.
This might've convinced me to switch to a Linux distro on the next PC I get. I'm not rich, it's gonna be a while until I get that silicon, but I'll look into Linux stuff.
Great tutorial Mutahar! However I would be a strong advocate for backing up all your important data on an external drive before jumping into Linux for a new user. Data loss is a serious risk if users don't know what they are doing. People interested in Linux, please please please backup your files first before doing anything, or you're gonna have a bad time.
@@qwert9313 with Linux theres no need to reinstall your operating system on the regular. It stays lean and efficient. As fast as when you installed it. Cant imagine having to do that headache with windows all the time :/
Uhm, I just installed Ubuntu on my old pc to use it for backups since after I formatted Windows 7 professional it didn't want to update anymore. I mean y'all can guess I'm not very knowledgeable at this, but if I use it just for a bit of broswing and to store stuff in it what should I be worried about??
@@YFedecs Ubuntu is completely fine as a Linux distro! Congrats on switching! Just keep it updated and you're set :) I was only offering the warning to new users to backup their data before installing a new operating system - those who don't know how to partition their drive correctly and end up accidentally formatting the entire drive. I've heard it happen before to new users and they end up blaming Linux itself.
I fell in love with the “sudo” commands on Linux. I don’t use terminals at all on windows but I have been using it all the time on Linux although I’m still learning
@@Subuzgreatest in my opinion yes one issue is that to run scripts you should prefix them with bash because fish doesn't have the standard syntax of most shells. People refer to bash style syntax as 'POSIX Compliant', so if you see that anywhere it is just talking about the syntax.
@@Subuzgreatest I love they way it autocompletes commands for me and I don't have to run --help or man to see what to do with a command because it auto completes flags
The problem with using balina etcher is that when you format the drive you have to disk part, list disk, select disk, clean, mark active to get the full drive size back. Whats better is a program called "ventoy" can boot 20 different distros from the same grub
@@greetingsmars There is an open source browser based Suite which is almost a carbon copy of Adobe. There is also Blender/Gimp for 3D Modelling/Texture Painting. And there are plenty of Open Source Audio Softwares compatible with Linux.
It's probably been 14 years since I've tried running a Linux OS. I remember it being a hassle compared to Windows, but I think I might give it a try again if build a new computer. I will admit the elitism from the vocal community has more than once steered me away from the OS. Thanks for not being an ass, Muta.
Compared to what I had 5 years ago, it's still an improvement. I think you will see the contrast better. Can't say if it still would be a hassle for you.
If it was as simple as Windows I’d 100% make the switch but for now I just follow guides on how to get rid of Windows privacy issues. It sucks you have to do that in the first place but beats spending hours fiddling with Linux systems.
Wut do you mean, hours? It only takes a few minutes to install Linux. The command line can take hours, but you don’t need to ever look at it if you don’t want to. Figuring out how to install stuff takes a few minutes too
See, the thing is, Windows isn't free of issues that take hours to fix either. And if you're gonna say, "but Benedani that doesn't happen to everyone", well Linux issues don't happen to everyone either. The majority are having the best of their times messing around on an OS that just works for them.
I mean, you are right but, sure you could go the windows route, even though it wouldn't really matter at all, making a privacy oriented windows install is way harder than using linux or even installing Arch, so yea I guess, if you want to go that route and have to put in a lot of effort without having a lot of affect sure, you could.
Crazy that you don't have to install almost any drivers. Coming from a Windows user it just seemed like it was needed if you wanted stuff to work. I didn't believe it. lmao
Yeah but sommeetiimes you might need to find a missing dependency or fix a library, but honestly thats rare. I run ParrotOS which is a pen testing OS based off Debian. I can't get Steam running because of missing dependencies and other problems. Maybe itd be easier on Ubuntu, or i have some security binary fucking things up, but yeah, i'd much rather just dual-boot and game from Windows at the moment. Idc how much progress has been made, gaming from Windows is still 10x easier
Muta you seriously should either do more videos about technical computer science stuff or run a class on it either in schools or other learning platforms like Skillshare.
I actually want to use Ubuntu to see if my PC actually runs better, lately I feel like my desktop is just getting slower and slower each day. I could love if Muta makes a video on dualboot, sure I know there are a million video and guides everywhere but I just really like the way Muta explains things.
@@alonzo_go lol when I tried that once the grub menu just didn't ever appear. It would boot into Linux fine every time automatically but to get into windows I had to unplug the drive with Linux or change the boot order every time.
@@Ballissle I changed the boot order in bios so it would run Windows as default but when I want to run linux I just open the boot menu when the computer starts up(it is seperate from the bios menu, the key was F6 for me) and just select the linux drive from there. GRUB works too but there may be some fixes to be applied in your situation.
Awesome video! One tip: you don't have to always check the official website for discord, chrome or steam and manually install .deb. Check software center, it might be already there, then you only need to click "install". This is one mentality difference that is very hard to change switching from windows.
The limits to games is the only reason i haven’t switched over fully to linux. I run dual-boot and i suggest doing this to anyone who plays games, but would like to start using linux as well!
Believe me, I want to ditch Windows. I really, really do. I've given the penguin multiple chances. But a lot of my software runs like booty under WINE, and the open-source alternatives aren't even remotely fit for purpose. So even if I did use Linux, I'd have to do everything in a VM, anyway. Gaming is the least of my worries.
I've used Linux completely for 3 years. For me it's still the ubiquitous OS for doing things that must be fast, efficient and secure. Unfortunately there's just so many interesting apps and games that windows-compatible only. You could cope with it for a long time, but there'll be a point where you'll be disappointed with the lack of options.
The easiest method for testing distributions or just practicing with Linux to see if you want to commit, is to install it on a virtual machine like Virtual Box (which is free), you can have as many different distributions as you like and test them all out. All the while none of what you do on the virtual machine affects your host machine and you can just remove any OS you don't like in a heartbeat.
Choosing Linux distro is like finding best suiting you custom rom on your phone, the issue is that because of the scale of the system the things you will be missing are hardly visible on the first few minutes. And no one want to flash another system and move all stuff again
Great video, Muta. The greatest challenge for Linux users ATM should be the office suite. I tried editing a couple docx files and images simply won't work with the generally available software :/ If only people shifted to the odf file type instead... Pretty cool to see the advances of linux gaming these last years!
@@Rafa-fc9rh apparently my comment got auto-deleted because I must've put a blacklisted keyword. I couldn't write everything in that single comment. I tried ALL free office solutions for Linux and all of them had some trouble. WPS is still the best suite from all I tested, but it still had problems. But thanks a lot for that comment, I think many people need that ^^
If Linux devs really wanted to. They could rip the core functionality out of windows and slap it into UNIX or even GNU. For a lot of fucking developers of Linux out there it's not even that goddamn hard. They just won't do it and that's where the problem lies.
Good news anyone reading this: DXVK supports DirectX12, and Halo MCC, Halo Infinite, Apex Legends, and Dead by Daylight all have anti cheat support on Linux, just to name a few!
The only thing that I found reliable is a list that valve provided that has all the gamess compatible with proton. There's another list out there on some other site that tells you with what level of compatibility those games run at. But getting past any problems that you might have is a problem because foul really isn't keen on letting people mess with proton.
Being a Ubuntu user, there are it’s ups and downs. Most of the time, Ubuntu runs pretty good. One of the plus sides of Ubuntu is that it can run on ancient hardware. Windows 10 32-but can run on older hardware, but you don’t get that performance you want. You _could_ install 64-bit on older hardware, but I’m not sure that will work or not. Ubuntu works pretty good on legacy hardware, with Adequate performance. With Windows, there are features to create “snapshots” of Windows installations as a backup in case something breaks. Sometime that WILL happen with someone, because look we’re talking about Microsoft. Windows is gonna do that for some users. A plus side for Ubuntu (or Linux in general) is that it is generally more secure than Windows in ways. Yes, Ubuntu does not have a full-on virus protection like Windows does, but a good protection against malware is that Linux is protected with File permissions with the super user that is generally harder to access. Linux and windows are good operating systems, but it generally depends on what you use them for. There are things That Microsoft windows are better at running at , And there are things that Linux runs better than Windows. Both operating systems are great for their own things, it just depends on the person. Been using the Ubuntu for quite a while now, but not as long as I have been using windows 10. When customizing things for Linux it is far easier and better than Windows by a landslide
I would definitely be in the "fuck linux" camp. All the hoops you have to jump through and bullshit you have to deal with just to play games or run programs is enough for me to never want anything to do with linux. If it gets to the point where i can boot my PC up and play any game i want just like i can now, then maybe. But i'm not about to work 10 hours a day then come home and fight with my OS just to do shit. I'd just go with consoles at that point. It's not worth the hassle. It's not worth the "benefits".
yeah. its still FAR worse than windows when it comes to compatibility/ease of use. I would MAYBE use it on a laptop but it would need to vastly improve before I would consider it for a desktop.
Damn, I've always been bothered by my "gaming" laptop. it sucks when playing games, it would stutter like heck. This video is really tempting me to try this out.
The issue with Nvidia graphics that prevented Ubuntu iso from starting up is fixed now since last couple versions, so you don't need to worry about it anymore! Can confirm since I installed Ubuntu 20.04 recently.
I've used Linux off and on for years. I still default to Windows because so much of the software I use is only on Windows. Any of the Linux versions I've used have half assed alternatives to the apps I use. They are either nowhere near as functional or are horribly designed. Even with Wine, I've only managed to get a few to run properly. I really like Linux but if I can't be as productive on it, it's really just a toy to play with for me.
Good for you M8, I dunno what your use case is but I have the same reasons for using Linux. If I touch windows I'll probably start playing games or something
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“People who use Linux are the vegans of computers”. Why would you say something so hurtful and so incredibly accurate.
yeah, it hurts to progressists and Windows users that can't handle a central outage from USA. don't switch to Ubuntu or Fedora btw
I felt attacked with that single sentence
Except everyone doesn’t hate Linux users nor are they annoying, really..
@@yamomspotatosalad818 "boohoo one vegan person told me to become vegan so every other normal vegan is a fucking idiot!!"
@@Batyssss Relax
Other than gaming, I know there's a certain selection of people needing Windows for school and/or work purposes. For me it's because my college classes require the Respondus Lockdown browser when taking exams. It only supports Mac and Windows.
Have you tried running it with wine?
@@LordiGFX Yes. No luck.
Does it run in a VM ?
@@imelitist2828 doing that would allow cheating
@@FoxNoitre10 I run my schools lockout software in a vm. Took a little messing with to get it working but yea it works.
I cannot fathom why someone would bash an os for being “too easy.”
Making hard things easier is the entire reason I bought a computer. If I want things to be hard I can do basically anything a computer can do with an abacus and a stone chisel, and that stone slab is just as customizable as any Linux os if not more so. Being easy is the point.
Tbf, most of the criticisms of Ubuntu aren't because its too easy, but because of stuff like Canonical's obsession with Snaps and GNOME.
if you make something idiot-proof only idiots will use it. That's why.
@@bobbybologna3029 that’s just not true, but even if it was, how does that fact that something appeals to “idiots” make it any less appealing for you? The only reason I can fathom someone thinking “Ugh, people less smart than me use this thing, therefore I can’t use it.” Is pure elitism and nothing more.
@@Vgamer311 Usually those who know more get annoyed by idiot proof things because such things tent to limit their ability to do whatever they want with their software and hardware. A good reason many hate Apple things that just tell you "this is what you can do take it or leave it".
@@SIPEROTH i call BS on this, you want to configure anything as an Advanced user on windows use the Powershell, the same as using the Terminal on Linux, what your on about is the people who think they are advanced because they know how to access a control panel.
This is my biggest problem with the linux lot, oh it's to simple to use you can't customize it, you damn well can if you know what your doing, get around the security policies or disable them it all possible using Powershell but then they don't know how to do it, but at the same time they expect people to use the Shell on Linux it like erm fucking pot kettle... learn how to use the Shell on windows...
Something I appreciate about your take is that you focus on the average user. A lot of people on the internet assume that everyone is a power user or wants to learn every single thing about how their computer works, which really isn't the case. Most people just want to watch TH-cam, and have their games run without crashing.
I used to have that issue. Since I see it as easy to learn, I assume everyone asking for help would be familiar with software and tech. In reality, a lot of people get anxious when looking at their device's settings menu. Using a device and understanding the inner workings, even at the surface level, are two different things.
@@hamzasultan96 For real, I'm an intermediate linux user. I have no fear using the terminal and I can figure out how to use the config files I need, but somedays I just want my games to run, that's why I mostly install things through steam, because it's easy, and even games that aren't officially steam deck certified still run well under proton, or even ge-proton
The "apperance" can also be daunting, I started dabbling with Linux when I got my Steam Deck and even to this day I get a bit stressed when I need to run terminal. Doesn't matter how much I've read and prepared for what I'm trying to do. Once the terminal opens and there's a wall of text I can feel my confidence and motivation evaporate @@hamzasultan96
One other reason to at least dabble in Linux is that it breaks that mindset. Even if you don't daily-drive a GNU+Linux distribution primarily or long-term, it changes how you think about things like security, privacy, and how to really make even Windows do more of what you want it to do and less of what you don't.
this video aged like a finely sealed casket of wine when you see the new "features" coming to 11
My first experience with Linux was trying it out in a Virtual Machine. I really wish people in the Linux community recommended Windows users to try Linux in a VM before switching. They get to try different distros and get their feet wet without having to commit to switching their whole system.
VMs can get complicated to set up. Virtual disks are hard to understand for a lot of people, let alone something like GPU passthrough
@@LiamNajor there's no reason to worry about something like GPU pass through. I'm talking about people using VMs to dip their toes into Linux. Also, I'd say setting up something simple in VirtualBox or VMWare is arguably easier than installing Linux on bare metal
I bit the bullet and decided to set up dual boot to try it out
@@jeremiebornais400 I couldn't get a VM working no matter how hard I tried last time I tried...7 years ago. However, back then I had a thinkpad t61 running ubuntu. If setting up a VM is easier then installing it, then either something has changed since then or there was something obvious my dumb child brain missed.
Yeah but then you have people who have computers that can't fucking do it at all.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if I edited this comment so the only way people can find out what it originally said is by deciphering it via the replies?
Lol
Dual boot or Virtualize. Get your toes wet... The water gets warmer the longer you're in it. When you need to get stuff done, use windows... When you have time to learn, switch over to your Linux.
Linux is getting better every day, and LMG pulling this challenge has actually spurred a lot of discussion regarding new user experience.
"Were it so easy" -Arbiter
@@zeke7515 no.
only reason i haven’t stopped using windows is because most of my programs are incompatible
Try a vm of Manjaro XFCE edition. I think you might like it.
Problem with Linux isn't that it's complicated. It's that 90% of the time it won't support the software and hardware you want/need.
Yes and no, well, for pc parts, theres already a driver for that and it's technically widely supported, and the ones that dont have a built-in driver from the kernel, can just be installed independently
For peripherals on the other hand, you most likely need to find a community alternative, and follow the instructions of course. That's how it becomes complicated.
I haven’t heard of much not working, besides they’re are Linux softwares that run windows files.
Not even close to 90% but yes it's a real problem
It's the other way around. It's not that Linux doesn't want to support it: it's the companies of that unsupported software chose to not support it. Linux is free and open source. They can give support to it without paying Linux royalties or licensing fees.
>90%
If it were 2011 then this would be true, but now a days a lot of software is comptable(expect for the adobe suit but their is alternatives to that)
As an Arch Linux user, I loved this video. It's so refreshing to see a completely unbiased video explaining how Linux isnt perfect and giving them reasons why they should and shouldnt use it while also showing them that they can still do most of the things they did on Windows on Linux and that its not as hard as some might think. Being unbiased with this sort of thing is so important imo instead of the typical cherry-picking that most Linux users like to do.
I also loved that this video is just straight up hilarious lol.
archlinux is normie distro
@@mnemonic6047 Silence, computer vegan
@@Zorovee silence normie
@@mnemonic6047 I dont obey commands from elitists :^)
@@Zorovee yes we saw that normie
As a music producer, the singular reason I haven’t switched to Linux is because of DAW’s. FL Studio, Ableton, Pro Tools, etc are all basically unusable in Linux even through wine (since they don’t have actual Linux builds outputted by the DAW developers). Same with VST Plug-ins. It’s a real shame. The only DAWs that are practically available on Linux are terrible.
Didn’t expect to see Jas here
Bitwig works perfectly on linux and so do all the uhe plugins
What about REAPER?
I play without fuzz with ardour, my guitars and my microkorg work just fine.
Currently running debian.
same
you've nearly convinced me, however there's just so many 'but' statements
like yeah you CAN do most things, but a good bit of them require workarounds & the other half aren't supported yet
Ubuntu was perfectly fine
And then I tried to do a long, very important file transfer over USB 2.0. They were vidoes from a trip I was undertaking and the camera was running out of space, so easy I'll just do a file transfer Linux can handle that
Yeah 75% of the footage got lost because of a Linux bug. It transferred every file to 4GB and moved on to the next file. Something about RAM caching and dumping it to the drive and it can get confused by slow file transfer rates
I switched right back to Windows. As much as we complain about the OS it at least doesn't trip on such mundane tasks.
"You can implement this fix yourself to make the problem go away", that's a real nice solution if I didn't already lose hundreds of GB, which absolutely would not have happened running Windows. On principle I'm not running my OS to bug fix and find workarounds for every tiny, unpredictable thing
@@orange_man_from sorry but, the 4gb limit is a limitation of the fat file system, so thats your fault, not linux's one.
Linux is more fun when it's on a second laptop or desktop that you can use casually. Otherwise run a virtualmachine on your gaming desktop.
@@plumcakey nah m8 I know neither my camera nor Ubuntu use FAT. I've transfered greater than 16 GB files to it before on other projects with high-speed external SSDs. And the camera regularly records 28+ GB single files for me.
And that attitude. Everything is boiled down to the user's fault. Even if I was somehow running FAT on my Linux drive in your hypothetical, shouldn't the OS say "The file is bigger than 4 GB on your FAT drive so you'll lose some data. Please figure this problem out"
"Git good" does not apply to problems I cannot forsee. And again is not the principle I want to by daily driving an OS with
@@Zarrx yeah that's what I was doing. It was fun, I'll keep a new Linux distro on a bootable USB for funsies going forward.
I agree with Muta in principle, but let's be honest... Linux is largely for computer enthusiasts. Those who know what they're doing. Most people who use le 'poot are casual users i.e. not coders, not technological whiz kids, and who go to their IT department at work to solve even the most minor of inconveniences. If something goes wrong on Linux, people have to do the trouble-shooting themselves. Sure there are fabulous communities that post regularly to forums and are more than willing to help out fledgling Linux users, but let's be real... For most people? That's just too much effort and kind of annoying. People want things that work out of the box and, if something DOES go wrong, they have a fall guy who will pick up the pieces and fix everything for them. Most Linux distributions are fantastic and often times more stable than Windows, don't get me wrong! But, without that fall guy, without that clear line of financial responsibility, for most? It's a no-go. You are asking a lot from people if you expect them to go from paid services, which comes with all the legal requisites you'd expect, to freeware OS (Yes some distributions are sold, but most aren't. And yes some distributors do have support available, but again most won't have the infrastructure in place to help people in all the ways that Windows can). Also, as others have mentioned, Linux is in NO WAY as user-friendly as windows... If you think it is? You're the non-casual user I was just talking about and, although I'm happy you're having a great experience, those experiences are not going to translate over to nearly as many people as you think they will.
Sidenote: Muta your point about terminal is null because, although Windows has clickable directives to do things instead of just having Linux terminal and that's it, you said it... They have PowerShell i.e. command prompts too? Those clickable buttons, pages, software etc etc are for those who require a user-friendly straightforward OS. If you don't need that and you're a power user? Well, use PowerShell then. No one is stopping you.
(From both a casual Windows and Linux user, lmao)
to be fair I think the total freedom about linux distros is both a good and bad thing.
on one hand, if you know what you're doing: *it's fucking awesome*! because you can essentially do whatever you want without having to negotiate with the operating system. you are quite literally the god of it and thus the only limit is your imagination. not to mention how it's also more secure than windows with the permission system for instance, where instead of it being "are you admin or not", you can instead modify the read, write, and execute flags directly for even better customization.
but on the other hand, like you said...the "if you know what you're doing" bit.
Yeah are people forgetting you can literally use PowerShell to make Windows your bitch?
@@digitalcyclone7218 Exactly! I think in time Linux will be comparable to Windows. We are just not at that point yet. And, although I respect Muta, he is literally a power user... I think he forgets that most people are unwilling to do all the legwork that Linux requires. I personally think it's fun! But, I'd be lying if I said it was my main desktop. I still want/need a computer that can play all my games, run mainstream software, and that I know is user-friendly and that I can rely on when I need a simple experience. I'd love to go Linux full time but, right now - with the lack of support for various programs and, of course, its infamous gaming issues - it's just not viable for me.
@@eld1rt honestly I think that will never happen. As Digital Cyclone above said, the distros are both the blessing and the curse of Linux - a blessing for enthusiasts, and a curse for pretty much everyone else. I work as a video/photo editor and I simply can't switch over because there are no warranties that the software I need can reliably run there, and most of the professional-grade softwares for these jobs don't have Linux versions because the inconsistencies between distros don't allow them to build a version for Linux that could be profitable, because they wouldn't be able to guarantee it would work for every distro around. Unless Linux goes through a very unlikely consolidation proccess into a single or a handful of distros, it will never be truly challenging Windows (or Mac) for position.
I agree, linux is difficult to use for many people, and no, linux enthusiasts and elitists, you can't justify it, it's just hard to use for many people, it doesn't get easier to use if it's more private, it just not easy and you can't do anything about it. you can't just say windows is trash and linux is way better and expect people to move to linux like it's the only way. linux is hard to use. (for me it's easy but I know the frustration)
I've used Linux for over 10 years. I install Linux, then select what I want to have installed. With windows, I uninstall what I don't want, then install what I want.
"There's no three secret tips, there's only one:
- make sure it's popular
- make sure it's well supported
- have a good time."
It's like a bash/perl one-liner. It's one sentence, but does as much as three!
@@inscrutablemungus4143 It's in x86 asm one liner, it's one line, but in ARM it does much as three!
Linux Mint is all of those things and it was awful.
That's windows and main reason why it's the best os. Windows is the only OS that you can literally throw anything at it and it's like "OK lets do it" Fuck linux xD
@@cookieface80 It was never popular... so what are you talking about? Popular as a linux distro perhaps, but that's like beeing the biggest fish in a barrel of autists.
I switched to Linux a few years ago and honestly, Windows feels like living in somebody else's house but Linux feels like home to me.
I've been using Windows for a few years and Linux feels like living in someone else's house.
Ha ha ha..... I dont have a house... Bcz now i am using Android and hacker is using my phon to watch me and to control me
@@MdRagibHasan lol
@@gurucharanvemuru1098 lu lu
@@fergusof did you use Debian based right?
Yeah, unfortunately for gaming, windows has the most support, and is the most well known OS. Despite the fact that for coding, Linux is the goat for me, I still prefer Windows for more gaming/casual things. It is easier to use than Linux imo
I use WSL2 for most coding stuff. Works perfectly
Yea
Yeah but only children care about gaming
@@molly-me5ik wait what
@@molly-me5ik only children care about others playing games
What kind of ordinary gamer uses Linux as his main?
I run Garuda on my game rig. Works great.
Some ordinary gamers, apparently
Linux probably will be greater in the future but windows is a lot more comfortable and has been for a decade or so, once Linux goes beyond mainstream then people might start considering it as a permanent option.
Linux is more comfortable.
“Linux will be greater in the future” was being said for the last 20 years. Linux Desktop is still going to be shit if distro developers won’t start standardising how things should work and look across ALL distros.
@@ProtossOP this, this is my biggest problem with Linux: lack of standardization
@@thingsiplay Not at all
@@thingsiplay for YOU. why would you assume this for everyone else.
Using Windows or Linux boils down to two things for me: Windows software compatibility and anti-cheat. I use Linux on my laptops and Windows on my gaming machine. Hopefully Proton will get some quantum leaps in development once Steam Deck comes out.
Yup that's what we can hope for... I feel like steam pushed the ball so hopefully it follows through
Gamer cope
The most popular anti cheats work now tho... BUT GODDAMN IT VALORANT DOESNT WORK (im a full linux user)
@The Cat ...Mind giving me some recommendations on good story based games? Something for me to look forward to since I'm gonna start learning this ubuntu thing since I'm getting tired of the issues with windows. It's starting to give me the zuckerborg vibe recently
As long as DXVK/Proton doesn't implement fully DirectX memory management it'll be borked in terms of performance
The biggest problem with Linux support currently comes from multiplayer game developers. Given how Linux operates it's hard for them to monitor other system resources for cheat software so they have a hard time supporting it for anything beyond single-player games. Maybe valve can solve the issue with their upcoming anti-cheat stuff but it will take some time for the big guys to want to test it on their AAA titles.
mfw some pvp minecraft servers does a better job at detecting cheats than clientside anticheats + clientside ac sucks because people eventually find a way to fully bypass it
@@CAEC64 badlion anticheat is pretty great isn’t it?
enter vm
@@multivitamin7 I remember being banned for using an autoclicker xD
A fundamental aspect of information security is, "never trust the client." Yet that's exactly how client-side anti-cheat mechanisms work. They're security theater, not real security. If you think they actually stop cheating you're living in a fantasy world.
I don't think there's a conspiracy between Microsoft/Epic/game publishers to keep people on Windows with these basically useless client-side anti-cheat tools but I wouldn't put it past them based on their history of monopolistic and--in the case of Epic--severe and illogical anti-Linux bias.
Have tried many times to switch to linux but my necessity to run games and the adobe suite always gets me back to windows. BUT thank you for treating people like me (linux noobs) with respect, and not with contempt, like many other forums or videos i have come across. You have earned my respect and my subscription. Looking forward to more of your content. Thank you.
You can install any window’s software of Linux with wine-Linux
@@realseal_6252 doesn't really work all the time, though. Some software is pretty stubborn (Clip Studio, AutoCad, Adobe Suite as far as the ones I use). But personally my own laptop uses linux, and my work pc is Windows (but that one is provided by my employer). I even have a mac mini if I want to mess around with OSX. Different hardware for different needs :)
Sadly I think I'll always be the weirdo in my group who uses TempleOS
Based
You aren’t the weirdo if you’re using TempleOS.
lol
Being cool is rare these days...
Based and terrypilled
As a lifelong Windows user dating as far back as Windows 98 I'm very tempted to make the switch now. Windows 11 just might be the final straw for me.
Yeah.. I went back to 98 after going to ME, I skipped Vista, but otherwise? I have been on the cutting edge and beta testing for every Windows since 3.11. Windows 11 offends me with it's existence after all the promises MS made. This should have been 10 Plus+ or something. I'm going to stick to 10 for a while and might go to Linux after if needed, but I really don't like 11. Not even just for the stupidity of changes to go graphics, but removal of various system settings and removal of ability to customize the OS to what I need. They even 'patched' a regedit to put the start menu back... what even was the sense of that?
:(
Please please do. You won’t regret it. Sure there might be elitists, but most of the people you’ll find will be helpful
@@Artimidorus what windows 11 has done to 10 is the same as what 7 did to vista. Linux constantly tries to reinvent the wheel instead of getting the fundamentals right. If you switch you will quickly realise that the grass isn’t greener. So go for it and you’ll see.
@@V1CT1MIZED have you used anything except windows lmaoo, its retarded to say "linux" (im guessing you're thinking about something like ubuntu) tries to reinvent the wheel when literally the only thing that defines an os for most people the de which you can pick anyway. want a windows like experience? use cinnamon. want cinnamon with tons of eyecandy? use kde. customization is the bread and butter of linux in general
Why though? If you have used it for 20 years it’s doing well. Unless it’s doing something that you don’t like your just going to piss yourself off if you use Ubuntu or another distro for anything other than the base install.
Imagine being married for 5 years and getting a ball razor for Christmas
Oops.
Oopsie
Best Christmas Ever.
LMFAO
I'd feel good because it just means she loves seeing them.
People that refuse to learn how to use a computer above an essentially childish level deserve to have their data/telemetry collected. If you want daddy microsoft to hold your hand in your computer use, this is what you get
If there was a way to install drivers for Elgato 4K60 Pro and Wave XLR, I would switch right away..
most sound devices work out of the box (like my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2), the Elgato (is it a capture card) could also work out of the box, Linux has almost all drivers that are available already in the system itself
I see no point of even using Elgato products if it forces your frame rate on your side to go to 60 fps horrible… unless ur on a shitty console
@@soledfamily ...forces your frame rate to 60? what the fuck are you talking about with this one? I use a mostly all Elgato setup with my 240hz monitor and am not "locked" in any way.
@@Silverhazey_I forgot the new Elgatos are a capture card you plug-in so it does not do that. The old ones do.
Ya I get that some distros have little things that are annoying for some users like a distro where it gives u a dummy audio output so you have no audio or if the distro dosnt support your graphics driver so if you have a 4k system everything is tiny and you can't change the display unless you screw around with xrandr for a bit or there's the distros that don't detect your wifi card but all these problems mainly occur if you have decently new hard ware to where developers havnt released support for the distro but shouldn't run into this if you have a older system but that's why I'm getting rid of my 4k laptop for an older laptop so I dont have to fix these problems all the time cuz distro hoppin is a terrible addiction
Imagine Using Windows or Linux or MAC for your computer. I use Native American smoke Signals
True Chad
🚭
Gigachad energy
Native American Smoke Singal ? I use morse code
@@worlds3061 that’s too advanced technology, at least use pigeons.
I'd like to thank the Linux community for giving people a great OS option that rivals Windows and MacOS for *_free!_*
@CreativeUnoriginals no shit
It doesn't rival anything lol linux is ass
@@MC-BOT Come now, no need to start an OS war in the comment section.
Every OS has its pros and cons and we should respect everyone's choices to stick with one and not the other.
I do wish Windows would stop having more bugs and get more stable though.
@@MC-BOT You haven't used Linux have you?
@@MC-BOT lmao 1: no bloat
2: no spyware
3: no backdoors
4: free
5: open source
6: efficient to use
7: you own your computer, not microsoft or apple
The Koala is taunting me.
I'm still using Windows because of the overwhelming game support.
If Linux (someday) finally catch up I will migrate asap.
You’re missing out, but I understand if you don’t want to do a windows VM and everything.
@@sylv512 you’re missing out on games and peak performance. Plus it’s just a matter of time till anti cheat block VMs
@@V1CT1MIZED games run faster via Linux, at least in my school experience. DXVK makes some shitty PC ports run faster fo some reason.
Most games run on Linux very well using Steam Proton, problem is that Proton doesn't go well along with anti cheat engines
yeah windows solitaire is sadly not supported on linux
>Has MacBook running windows
Welp
I was dual booting El Cap and Windows 7. MacBooks are almost the perfect laptop for everyday use
I'm so tempting to try out Linux one day and thank you Muta for making the introduction of Linux look so inviting and easy to use no matter what level of understanding that the person has.
*Wow! I wasn't expecting my comment to make this much traction! Thank you for all the responses to this message!
If you only want to try it out, then it's pretty easy. You can boot into a live usb and see if everything you need works and you can experiment with different desktop environments/distros. It's not that big of a commitment.
@@maxqi3729 I was thinking about doing this myself.
@@LunaStar666 Live usb won't format any disks unless you tell it too so i recommend trying it out.
@@GyroZeppeli90 I have the original USB with W10 when I bought my PC
@@GyroZeppeli90
Instructions unclear
Deleted windows
Yes this just happened to me while I was downloading Ubuntu, I don't regret it since it was windows 8 and not even an activated one
One thing, that you might've shown to the new users is how to install software via a GUI software centre, since many people might struggle with the terminal being text only, spitting out dependencies, etc. and installing via a web page is not really showing the beauty of secure software installation. That's how you do it on windows, downloading viruses from sketchy websites. Otherwise a great introduction!
If valve can pull off steam play, I’m literally going to switch in a heartbeat
Bro just wait until I deck out the Deck on windows.
well it works
@@remasteredretropcgames3312 It already on Steam itself.
@@absolutelyproprietary6896 dual boot makes the system slower in my experience of doing it in 3 computers
@@gam3kid No it doesn't because only one os is running at a time. It could even make your pc faster because since OS partition shrinks, filesystem runs faster. Stop believing everything you read on the internet "Gam3kid"
All I always say is
"if the Linux community really wants people to use Linux, they need to stop using the terminal for a month (don't even open it), write down all the annoyances they encounter, create tickets for each and every one of them, and actually fix them instead of de-prioritizing them and pushing them to the bottom of the backlog because there's some bleeding edge features that simply must be implemented immediately and the critical issues they introduce have priority, otherwise stop complaining that people don't use Linux"
And that's not even talking about gaming because no matter what people say, there are many games that are not on Steam so Proton is not gonna save you, Lutris isn't gonna save you either and even with Winetricks, wine sucks, I don't want to spend half of my weekend creating a prefix and messing with it just to play one game, I just want to PLAY it.
Create an Open Source alternative to Proton that works with any game in which the community can make custom prefixes so that games and software can run out of the box, and you'll have your gaming silver bullet.
Until the Linux community gets it through their thick skulls that the average user is extremely intolerant to inconvenience and doesn't want to tinker, Linux is gonna remain a niche OS for nerds and Windows is gonna stay on top.
Nailed it, couldn't have said it better myself. This is why Linux will never be mainstream and why I have to dual boot.
Agree a million percent! I played a lot of buggy games in the past with obscure errors nobody would report to the devs, and it's like some Linux users just... Ignore very grave issues just because they can work around it.
I don't want to worm around ir, I want a smooth, detour free experience.
I still don't get why Proton isn't available outside of Steam. It's literally just a fork of Wine.
@Hadrim Losthor The thing is, most things on Linux can already be done in the GUI. Linux desktop has popups and animations galore as well. Performance does not suffer.
The reason for bad performance on Windows is that Microsoft really does not care. Microsoft CAN optimize, see Windows 8.1. They just do not, because people really are that stupid enough to blame their hardware instead of the software.
@Hadrim Losthor i mean you can use cmd in windows with cygwin for all i care, you can still get the same snappy speed like linux terminal.
Muta: "You should stop using windows."
Me, an MMO player: "Yeahhhh about them anticheats though...
I don't get it. Does windows enable multiboxing
@UCjuI5PYwggtSNNxOn8ByAcw That's not quite right. It's closer to anti-cheat thinking virtualization is cheating. Which unfortunately is what happen when you use Proton or Wine. Some anti-cheats even recognize virtualized Windows as cheating. I think Muta had that issue with R6 some time ago
Zaphael. Have you watch the whole video yet? He explained it at the end.
Anticheats are basically viruses. Why would you install a virus to play an online game
@@zac1497 I thought they've fixed that for Proton fairly recently. Or maybe it's in the Proton beta version only. I remember reading that it was in a patch note for it.
For people looking to get into Linux, try using it on a cheap old laptop and just get a feel for it on there
They dont even have to that. They could liveCD or Live USB
@@blackhawk65589 or a VM idk
The problem that always stops my switch over is simply the lack of products supporting linux versions.
I am a writer and use Scrivener almost exclusively. Programs like Wine do a good job at trying to port over more popular programs for artists (mostly games tho lol), but it seems scrivner is pretty unfocused on. Really sucks, but its the only program I cant compromise on
welp its almost the same on mac os x too like me but at lest linux and mac os x do get along very well sense they both are forks of some kind of unix linux system thats interchangeable! wine is a good example of how mac os x and linux code cross interacting with windows kernel
Manuskript, bibisco, and Emacs have similar functionality. Don't know how they compare, though, never used them or scrivner itself. Apparently scrivner version for Linux was abandoned, but it seems it does run in wine.
I remember there was a dude who switched to Linux specifically for writing and made videos about it, I'll link the videos if I find them.
Why does youtube delete my comments but not spammers' tf is that
@@ashtiboy macOs and linux are completely diffferennt software, their source code is notyt really correlated, they aren't forks of a same previous software or anything like that.
What happens is that both linux and macOs are *unix-like* systems; in other words, they both follow the unix philosophy, and most of the unix-like specifications, including stuff like basic shell commands and file hierachy, etc.; which is something windows doesn't do
About gaming, one thing many don't consider is they're expecting Windows games to work on Linux. It's honestly amazing the amount of support that's available considering. It's only going to get better.
Most devs nowadays feel that it is too much to expect Windows games to run on Windows.
The cool thing is, proton is very well built by Valve, so most windows STEAM games should work on linux
I honestly hope to see a linex based OS that runs games as well as Windows with equal support.
@@madlad9822 that is technically not possible, unless they find out something myraculaud in the system
DXVK runs most games better on linux, it even runs games better on windows, anyone who says the gaming isn't up to par at this point just has no idea what they're doing. The ONLY hiccup we have nowadays is anti-cheat and DX12, the former because those companies don't currently support linux, and the latter is because well DX12 doesn't run well on Windows either, thankfully because of that very few developers even bother using it.
It's funny that people make fun of others that want something "easy". Simplicity and ease of use has always been the key to success regardless of what product you are making. Yet these elitists are out there complaining if you don't make your life a headache.
That's a double-edged sword. Avoiding something because it's not simple isn't good practice UNLESS there is already a better alternative to take it's place. In this case, if Linux does everything users want, more power to Linux users.
no wonder why nobody had taken seriously this whole thing till now.
Enthusiasts will be enthusiasts, normies will be normies.
@@redaethel4619 Imagine unironically saying "normies" in 2021
@@kazum9746 Cringe, right
BRO...you're the ONLY ONE on the entirely TH-cam that doesn't make me skip merchandising.
Muta: "People use windows for one main reason"
Muta: *lists two reasons*
even tho 90 percent of computers need windows to even turn on. but yea hes so smart.
@@megami215 what?
@@megami215 ... friend, i think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding of computers
@@megami215 ... do you.. understand computers?
@@megami215 I love how your joke, as misworded as it was, went over the head of everyone else.
Don’t think I’ll use Linux when nearly 90% of things I use are windows native
I used to use Ubuntu on all my refurbished PCs I built from parts laying around my house. It worked great for all the basics and kept an otherwise outdated PC running reasonably well. Although I'm not likely to use Linux on a main desktop (unless it gets more native support) anything old I throw together, Ubuntu is my go to Linux distro.
@@kreuner11 or arch with LXDE or LXQt if you want that KDE feeling. I use arch, btw.
@@_-iictdii-_4961 i just started my own pc build but i got a long way to go because i didnt understand shit u said bro .. one day .
@@zRussh arch - linux distribution
KDE - display manager. you just have to think about linux as a console; everything goes through it, just like the old days with MSDOS. but there are some gangster applications like KDE that can be used as display managers and give your computer all of the visuals and stuff. if you don't like how "linux" looks, just change the display manager, it's simple as that.
@@zRussh No worries, Muta got your back. The way he explains it is pretty noob-friendly, which is exactly what you need when switching to linux. Don't bother with technical details until you need them, so you can learn in small steps and not get overwhelmed.
And to make life more convenient, look at the desktop environment before installing. There are usually a few per distro (see their websites, you can download differnt versions and see images of how it will look). I personally run Linux Mint with cinnamon desktop, because beautiful.
So: decide on a distro (ubuntu is fine, but there are many that may work), then decide on the desktop you like most. Tadaaaaaaa: You got yourself an OS. Really no magic here
I mean, you did use one the most bloated Linux distro, somewhat defeating the purpose. I would have used lubuntu or a puppy variant.
I switched to Ubuntu with most of my devices. That helped a lot when I had to start doing some of my computations at work on a server with Red Hat. Having to switch to a no-GUI OS at work would have been terrible without prior experiences using Ubuntu. And then, I got me a Raspberry Pi to play around with, which runs Raspbian Lite. If you invest a bit of time it starts to be real fun to do stuff with that.
I amusingly started this backwards.
I bought a couple Raspberry Pi's a couple years ago, and just in the last few months switched my PCs to Garuda Linux, now I'm dusting off the RPi's to actually get their projects moving.
I'm holding the Steamdeck and Windows 11 responsible for finally motivating me to switch, my eagerness to try out the steamdeck and Windows 11 reminding me too much of my terrible Windows 8 experience has shoved me fully over to the FOSS/GNU/Linux community, and I'm actually liking it quite a bit so far.
Only keeping Windows 10 around for Halo Infinite and my Windows Mixed Reality Headset, had good luck so far running the rest of my Steam library on Linux
Do you think it's fun to waste 4h debugging some driver issue people on osx or windows never have to spend any time with? In my experience people that work for a living and have some other hobbies than tinkering with computers don't wish to waste their time fighting with an operating system.
@@cyberfunk3793 Do you think it is fun to collect post stamps?
Different strokes, different folks coming from a windows power user who guts their install and goes everything manually lmao @@cyberfunk3793
@@cyberfunk3793 if their work includes "fighting with an operating system", then it isn't about it being fun, it's about it being their job.
The thing about Linux is that for most users this journey starts and ends the moment they realise their software and/or hardware doesn't work on Linux out of the box because barely anyone supports Linux, so they'll bail. That's the sad reality.
On a side note, I would argue that Linux Mint is a better beginning distro. It has more Windows-like interface, and is based on Ubuntu.
Kubuntu is one as well... Its just Ubuntu with KDE... Looks & operates like windows & you can still refer to the general Ubuntu community for troubleshooting.
I'm a fan of Mint however I can see his point. Ubuntu has some great features and looks and feel polished. Corporations if they use linux it is Ubuntu, so for the best begining experience Ubuntu is the right choice especially for mac users. But I installed my mom linux Mint and she loved it.
Mint was my first Linux OS, totally agree with you, it’s a very easy switch.
most of their *specialized* software/hardware. linux typically has alternative software (albeit there may be noticeable QoL differences) and most basic hardware works right out of the box.
my reality
Gaming is the only reason I still use Windows.
Yes, I know about wine and proton, but anti-cheat software doesnt cooperate with it.
@@apteryx1239 Well once it does I'll think about changing then. However Im not losing my main use for me pc lol
Minecraft is supported on Linux, just recreate fortnight in minecraft
Well, not only that, but certain games just aren't the same. FFXIV wasn't a smooth experience for me due to random framerate issues, and I had input lag in Melty Blood. I reinstalled windows even though I would prefer to keep using linux, the last thing I want after a long day at work is to have a less than optimal experience.
Linux is a compatability nightmare.
Word of warning. Use Rufus, not BalenaEtcher. Balena Etcher fucks with the partitions while writing to the USB which can soft brick your USBs. Please upvote so Muta sees this!
rufus is only available on windows, unetbootin is pretty good and its multiplatform iirc
@@SomeRandomPiggo anything but balena bleacher lmao, I lost two usbs to bleacher until I repartitioned them with rufus, and even then there are still some issues
I’ve seen this. But using rufus to create a blank partition fixes it.
@@V1CT1MIZED yep, it's a widespread issue since most devs aside from Canonical endorse it because "muh sleek UI" and "muh ease of use", and the Balenaetcher devs claim it's not their software's fault, just every single ISO out there not doing it right, or the USBs were too cheap/fake or something.
Balena fried my 32gb sandisk name brand usb to the point where Windows wouldnt detect it even as its directly plugged in, so i literally had to get a new one and its a fucking cheap Onn. But i used Rufus on the new one and its perfectly healthy this time
One of many reasons why a lot of people don't even try to get their feet wet with Linux is because they do get attacked when asking questions from the know it all Linux community, so I do appreciate you saying that..
Yeah exactly.
"Fisher-Price computes" is by far the best description for a Mac I've ever heard
Fisher Price computers may be Fisher Price computers but they are miles ahead of both Linux and Windows.
Lidl PC moment
@@RealEpikCartfrenYT I'd rather kill myself than use a mac
@@nuclearbomb9483 ok do it then. I'm just telling you that it's reliable and it never crashes. Plus, once you understand how to use a Mac, everything is a breeze.
@@RealEpikCartfrenYT average apple consoomer
im going to keep using windows on my computer and you cant stop me
7:35 im pretty sure you can keyboard navigate these nuts
You missed the opportunity of mentioning two distros whose names are both common ice cream flavors: Vanilla (a newer immutable distro) and Mint (Ubuntu-based, with a UI very similar to Windows)
As someone completely new to linux myself. The best solution to get me to trying it out was running it in a virtual machine, that way I keep my windows 10 for normal use since im fairly versed at it but can open an app and boot a fake computer running whatever flavor of distro id like. I use VirtualBox for my vm's.
Once you've chosen a distro, you could try dual boot, using a 2nd drive for your Linux installation. This way, you could still run apps and play games you can't get going on Linux and you will not curse so much when it crashes on you. If you decide to go back to Windows, you can use that 2nd drive for additional storage.
Just duel boot more and more distros support it now and give u options to duel boot instead of having to partition the duel boot manually I use qubes os so I'm good with what I got don't need no virtual box 🤣
@@lulzsec669 qubes os, bruh.
Gonna watch this in chunks cause of time but, love what I saw so far.
I really think Valve is going to push a much needed change for PC gaming with the Steamdeck. The new SteamOS looks absolutely amazing so far and they've made insane progress for 'it just works' compatibility in such a short time. Even the big anti cheats.
I want Linux to become big for gaming, and I see Valve making it being adopted VERY fast.
I hope. Cause Windows is getting very shitty lately.
Won’t take long for valve to erode away the Linux aspect exactly like google did with Android. People will see steam OS as it’s own thing separate to Linux and they’ll even label it like that on the steam stats page separate from Linux. Steam are putting profits first and they are being smart about it. Linux is but a means to an end. You’ll see and I look forward to it.
@@V1CT1MIZED ... Ok? You know valve has been dumping a lot into making Linux good right? And yes and no to money. Valve isn't a publically traded company. They have no shareholders. They don't care about profits in the way say Google or apple do.
If profits were a concern, they wouldn't of went into VR hard, they wouldn't dump time and money in Linux, they wouldn't dump money into a handheld for a niche market (but will help PC gaming grow easily - it's already doing above expectations order wise).
Of course steamos is its own thing. Everyone knows that. But it is a form of Linux at it's core and THATS the point.
It MAKES it compatible. It makes it plug and play and easy.
It's an open source option to get away from the cancer that windows is becoming. That's my interest in it.
@@V1CT1MIZED The things Valve does to Steam OS to make it just work for the average idiot, other devs will look at that and go "Huh, why did I never think to add that to my distro?"
@@mroldgreg valve has been shit for years now u can't wait for that shoe to drop and the everyone to realise
They hated@@mroldgregfor he spoke the truth
Muta has slowly gotten more extreame when it comes to windows lol
vomes
Extreame
Yeah because windows is becoming more and more shitty day by day...
Muta
*V o m e s*
"I use arch btw" comments incoming!!!!!!!!
Listen… I’d run Potato OS on a carrot before I’d run another Windows box period. If you use Arch, then cool, I’m happy for you I’ve used Fedora Redhat Edition when I was 16… nobody cares. Just don’t use Windows 💯🤷🏼♂️
No offense btw
I'd love to switch to linux. The issue is I have no guarantee my tablet software and my art software will work with it. As far as I understand CSP doesn't support linux in any fashion.
You can try using it in the Live environment before installing it. There you can see if it works or not before wiping any data.
@@PixelTrik That's good to know. I'll give it a shot.
You can also have both Linux and Windows on the same PC. If you have sufficient space anywho
@@lynk7078 Considering how Windows 10 has been a pain in the ass when it comes to multi-booting, I don't think it''s worth it. It's better to run on a VM because windows bootloader goes funky all the time.
If you have a Huion tablet then you’re just fucked if you go to linux. Best you can do is set up a gaming windows VM, spoof it to look like it’s running on bare metal, and pass the tablet through and hope it will work. The KDE team has tried getting some tablet manufacturers to create linux comparability softwares iirc but it doesn’t seem to have been entirely successful.
Muta 'bout to preach to everyone about the glory of Arch Linux and Virtual Machine.
"How can you tell if someone uses Arch linux"
They'll let you know
I had tried to install arch again, but I have decided to sell my gaming laptop for parts only.
So after watching a ton of Muta’s videos about Linux, and keeping up with Luke and Linus’s updates on the WAN show, I decided to give it a whirl myself. Installed POP!_os on my VR PC as a test bed. Hey, Beat Saber ran on my Index flawlessly. So I’ve now got a drive with POP! installed in my main gaming PC, and I’ve been “dual booting” ever since… Except it’s been in there for a few days and I haven’t actually booted back into Windows for anything… And I’m hoping I won’t have to.
Honestly loving it so far. It’s my first real experience with Linux aside from playing around with Mint about five or so years ago. I’ll be sticking with it, I think.
And yes, by “Linux” I do mean GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU+Linux…
Oh! A fellow PopOS user! I've been on the distro for a month and I'm not thinking of switching back, as gaming is really well supported! If you need any help on tweaking Wine or so to get games running, don't hesitate to ask me!
TempleOS
@@LiveType would you recommend a Raspberry pi 4 for windows people to start the migration process? Or a vm
@@wesss9353 Ur not funny
I only have one exception to your process; rather than use Balena, which takes up a whole stick with just one live image, I suggest Ventoy. Yeah, it's a _little_ more involved (barely more involved) to turn a stick into a Ventoy drive, but once you do, you can throw as many live images onto that sucker as will fit, plus folders.
Example: My 32Gb Ventoy drive, right now, has Zorin 17 Pro, Fedora 40, _and_ Windows 11, plus Bibisco in three formats, .deb, .rpm, and .exe, _plus_ a couple fonts I want right out of the box, _plus_ my Vivaldi sync encryption key, _plus_ my custom Vivaldi theme.
In short: Ventoy FTW.
A pro tip for getting third-party RGB lighting to work on Linux is to send emails to the company asking politely for their plans to support Linux.
Sometimes they just need to show their bosses that there's demand for them to support Linux.
Good luck getting that. Here is how they react after reading your email:
"Linux? LMAO"
There are programs with a lot bigger demand than some trash RGB panel, and not just any software, software from companies with a lot more money and yet they still refuse to port it to linux.
Who cares about a fucking rgb light noodle thing?
Or try OpenRGB
Not working RGB is the best kind of RGB, stupid Christmas lights
OpenRGB support is good, give it a shot!
I installed linux on my dad's laptop and he loved it! He only uses it for a few simple things and he was glad that all the "bullshit" that comes along with windows was gone
My 2 cents: I've used Linux as my daily driver laptop os since 2004. I have always needed to have a Mac or windows computer in addition to the Linux machine (either dual booting or a seperate box). The biggest issue that Linux has isn't compatibility with other software, it's compatibility with ITSELF. Fragmentation is a real issue, and it's much much worse on the desktop than it is on the server. And for anyone saying "it's gotten much better in the past few years" I've been hearing that since... well, 2004. Don't take this as disrespect, I absolutely love Linux as a hobby, ive done some amazing things with it that you cant do with anything else, and yes I use a Linux desktop still as my daily driver to this day. But the most accurate thing I ever heard about it is "Linux doesn't have games - Linux IS a game". If getting your computer to just work doesn't sound like a fun hobby, Linux is not for you.
Sorry you wouldn't use Windows apps on Mac OS? So why do you force Windows apps on Linux? Now navigating Games on Linux is a bit of a mess. To be expected with keeping the kernel virus free and exploits free. Android has already given us a blueprint on how to allow gaming in Linux. Windows patents are expiring so this is forcing Linus to double and triple the size of the kernel (NTFS3g). IMO Linus is playing it tough to stop gaming developers from getting root access to file system. Telemetry is just a fancy word for we are downloading info about system hardware, but yet no real answer to the data your collecting or screenshot of what will be sent to Nvidia. Well I trust Nvidia, but Linus doesn't want to review 5 million lines of code that you put under some app named "Cooking Cup Cakes" video game and it has Telemetry that exposes users to a exploits and data lose.
Depends on your distro. If you need all the software Linux has to offer, just use an arch based distro like Manjaro. The AUR is the largest software repository in the world.
To a new user, familiar with the windows paradigm, I agree, Linux is very fragmented. As someone who can really get Linux on its own terms, I see a distro as three things: an installer (or install process), a package manager, and whatever the distro maintainers wants to ship with the distro. I'm pretty sure I could get most things built for any Linux distro running on any other. I could be wrong though.
I haven't ever been much of a distro hopper, and when I have hopped distros to see what they're like, it's usually things unrelated to compatibility. Maybe the distro won't boot properly, maybe it's slow as balls, maybe I just don't find the experience with the distro very compelling. I generally run Ubuntu/Mint when I just want something that works and Gentoo when I want to get serious.
My experience with Gentoo may be what gives me my views on Linux, as it can really be whatever you want, and you can start with any distribution as just a text input and build it from there. The problem I find with other distros is that they're not as straight forward with you as Gentoo can be, and I'll be frank, they're package managers are almost never as flexible and robust as portage is.
Man, why didn't I read your comment before I tried switching...
@@gamezoid1234 the fragmentation problem isn't just with having different distros. I agree that most software can be built on different distros (im a debian user but I have a ton of respect for gentoo). The problem goes a lot deeper than that though. Different desktops. Different bootloaders. Different compositors. X vs Wayland. System d vs initv. Window managers. Pulseaudio vs alsa vs jackd. The list goes on and on, and every combination has some sort of incompatibility. On the server, this can be fixed with containers, but on the desktop it's a total mess. Linus Torvalds has a recent talk on this issue called I think "why linux desktop sucks" and it was very validating for me to hear since I have had the same issues for so long. I no longer have hope that linux desktop will improve, but I am happy and content with my Frankenstein debian-xfce-openbox-etc setup I have patched together for now (until an update breaks something)
Homestly, I like how Muta just said "Windows Bad" and procceeds how to tell even iPhone 17 users how to download, flash, and install Ubuntu. I haven't used Ubuntu except for setting up some Company Workstations. But A Good Distro I know of because of working on only 2 distros. Linux Mint seems to work really well, especially if you need to throw it at someone who only knows Windows
Edit: Ubuntu Is good to start i dont disagree with Muta but just my person preference that I think For End users/ Home Users Mint Cinnamon is good for people staring out too with basically the same installation proccess
Creators of any kind still can't justify the move, Linux is good for sure but we'll need A LOT more support or A LOT more open tutorials on how to use everything we normally use.
If you want better support and open tutorials for FREE stuff... Write it your damned self. Linux doesn't exist to meet your use case. It exists so you can *make it* meet your use case. If you're not willing to bother with learning how to best use a new OS then *anything* other than Windows isn't for you. You've already lost. Your computing soul will be owned by Microsoft forever.
Not if you want to have an identical workflow, but that will likely never be the case. If you don't want to switch, certainly no one will make you, but if you decide that you do want to, you can't expect to bring all the program's you're used to with you. You might need to use KDenLive for video editing, Kritta for digital painting, something else for audio if that's what you create etc. You might have to learn new programs and workarounds and techniques, but you'll be free of microsoft. If you don't wish to be free of microsoft, then obviously you don't need to bother with switching.
@@Riskable3DPrinting This attitude is why Linux will continue to be obscure to the general public. Most people are just users. They use the software to work. Any decrease in productivity due to figuring out how to use software is wasted time (or finding out after hours of troubleshooting that their software of device is not compatible with linux).
A yes the ''hours'' story, that´s remember me the problems i have in past with windows...today i use Manjaro i´m Free mtfk (¬‿¬)
@@Riskable3DPrinting Ah yes telling the people who have no time at all because of job(s), families, and lives outside of computers to learn programming so they can get a OS that will more than likely be shitter than something made by actual programmers like ubuntu. Also FYI at the end of the day no matter how you program Linux it's still Linux.
9:19 "i use arch, btw"
At 15:38 you're recommended to restart after an update. Not everything in the system is up-to-date whenever you update the system while it's running. You have to restart your computer for certain changes to take effect. In fact, Steam OS will require that you reboot after every update before it applies changes. Of course, your computer won't restart like 17 different times like on windows. It's one restart and you're completely good to go.
That's some good information. I'm compiling information on computer topics before I buy one for the first time in my life and I'm almost 30 hahahaha, anyway thanks for this tid bit of information mawi.
In my experience the “just works” distros recommend to restart. When I used Manjaro it would recommend that regardless of the update, but now that I use pure arch it doesn’t. So I guess it might be up to the distro maintainers.
@Watcher or you can just restart the services that require these new stuff without even logging out. as far as i know, the kernel can also be updated without needing to restart by using some specific programs/methods
You usually don't have to reboot unless the kernel itself gets an update (I know, you can even switch kernels without a reboot, but I don't think any desktop distro is set up that way), but you might have to relog or resort to the terminal to unload and reload modules or restart services. Then again, Linux usually starts so fast that you might as well reboot.
Uhhh, no. It depends completely on what you're updating. Applications will restart themselves, just like in Windows. Kernel changes, as well as GPU updates AFAIK, tell you to restart. For the most part, things that are being updated aren't running anyway. That's just not how the OS is.
I installed U4OS on my friend's old laptop that Windows 10 was crawling on (4GB RAM and a 5400RPM HDD). Not only does U4OS run screaming fast on these low specs but it is more visually appealing than say Lubuntu with multiple desktop environments and themes to choose from.
11:08
Mutahar - If you are in team green, you may end up with problems.
Me - *Dies laughing cuz he is wearing green t-shirt**
Fuck, lmao I laughed too 😆, I was about to make a post but decided against it. 🤣👏
@@AYT04 lol
One of the big things for newbies is look and feel. They don't want a big shock to the system. So desktop environment choice is a big deal for them.
The other things is software and hardware compatibility. People don't want to buy new hardware or shift away from all of their daily software.
>Software compatibility
THANK YOU. that's probably the BIGGEST reason people stick with Windows, or at the very least the SECOND biggest.
@@WinVisten Yup, and maybe the second biggest is having to jump through many hoops before getting something to work. I would be lying if I said I didn't miss the 'download, click, install' of Windows.
Linux mint
try Linux Mint it has even more classic look thatn Win10
got it, I'm switching to TempleOS immediately.
Same
This might've convinced me to switch to a Linux distro on the next PC I get.
I'm not rich, it's gonna be a while until I get that silicon, but I'll look into Linux stuff.
7:55 "I know how tempting it must be to have Among us OS " just fucking broke me lmao
Great tutorial Mutahar! However I would be a strong advocate for backing up all your important data on an external drive before jumping into Linux for a new user. Data loss is a serious risk if users don't know what they are doing. People interested in Linux, please please please backup your files first before doing anything, or you're gonna have a bad time.
I have *VIRTUAL BOX* just in case.
I don't have any important information on my pc I REINSTALL Windows like 2-3 times a year
@@qwert9313 with Linux theres no need to reinstall your operating system on the regular. It stays lean and efficient. As fast as when you installed it. Cant imagine having to do that headache with windows all the time :/
Uhm, I just installed Ubuntu on my old pc to use it for backups since after I formatted Windows 7 professional it didn't want to update anymore.
I mean y'all can guess I'm not very knowledgeable at this, but if I use it just for a bit of broswing and to store stuff in it what should I be worried about??
@@YFedecs Ubuntu is completely fine as a Linux distro! Congrats on switching! Just keep it updated and you're set :)
I was only offering the warning to new users to backup their data before installing a new operating system - those who don't know how to partition their drive correctly and end up accidentally formatting the entire drive. I've heard it happen before to new users and they end up blaming Linux itself.
I fell in love with the “sudo” commands on Linux. I don’t use terminals at all on windows but I have been using it all the time on Linux although I’m still learning
As a tip get the fish shell so you get nice tab autocompletion
@@jacobhinchliffe6659 Is it better than the bash shell ?
I'm just getting my feet wet with shell & Linux in general.
@@Subuzgreatest in my opinion yes one issue is that to run scripts you should prefix them with bash because fish doesn't have the standard syntax of most shells. People refer to bash style syntax as 'POSIX Compliant', so if you see that anywhere it is just talking about the syntax.
@@jacobhinchliffe6659 Thank you.
@@Subuzgreatest I love they way it autocompletes commands for me and I don't have to run --help or man to see what to do with a command because it auto completes flags
The problem with using balina etcher is that when you format the drive you have to disk part, list disk, select disk, clean, mark active to get the full drive size back. Whats better is a program called "ventoy" can boot 20 different distros from the same grub
Ventoy is very nice, and I can only recommend you leave some extra space for loose files you might want to keep on the side.
God I hope more & more softwares start to support Linux, the fact that I can’t use a local account is my final straw
Fuck I need Adobe creative suite & fl studio to work on linux or i’m stuck with shitty ass microsoft
@@greetingsmars There is an open source browser based Suite which is almost a carbon copy of Adobe.
There is also Blender/Gimp for 3D Modelling/Texture Painting.
And there are plenty of Open Source Audio Softwares compatible with Linux.
@@lfadedragel9178 What is the name of that open source suite?
@@greetingsmars fl studio works flawlessly through wine (official method too) not much you can do about adobe stuff though
@@lfadedragel9178 Gimp is a BIG headache.
It's probably been 14 years since I've tried running a Linux OS. I remember it being a hassle compared to Windows, but I think I might give it a try again if build a new computer. I will admit the elitism from the vocal community has more than once steered me away from the OS. Thanks for not being an ass, Muta.
Compared to what I had 5 years ago, it's still an improvement. I think you will see the contrast better. Can't say if it still would be a hassle for you.
That's a YOU problem,
For every 1 elitist, there are 10 noob-friendly people
The elitism is surely a bad part of the linux community, though, usually you will find nice people, so dont worry about that.
The arch users are the worst
@@oxycodin2253 Yeah because they think they're some leet computer users for using command line. It's stupidly funny to me.
If it was as simple as Windows I’d 100% make the switch but for now I just follow guides on how to get rid of Windows privacy issues. It sucks you have to do that in the first place but beats spending hours fiddling with Linux systems.
Wut do you mean, hours? It only takes a few minutes to install Linux. The command line can take hours, but you don’t need to ever look at it if you don’t want to. Figuring out how to install stuff takes a few minutes too
See, the thing is, Windows isn't free of issues that take hours to fix either.
And if you're gonna say, "but Benedani that doesn't happen to everyone", well Linux issues don't happen to everyone either. The majority are having the best of their times messing around on an OS that just works for them.
@@opensourceis9996 Hours as in dealing with software and hardware that isn't compatible with Linux and finding workarounds
Then just stay on windows lmao.
I mean, you are right but, sure you could go the windows route, even though it wouldn't really matter at all, making a privacy oriented windows install is way harder than using linux or even installing Arch, so yea I guess, if you want to go that route and have to put in a lot of effort without having a lot of affect sure, you could.
Crazy that you don't have to install almost any drivers. Coming from a Windows user it just seemed like it was needed if you wanted stuff to work. I didn't believe it. lmao
Yeah but sommeetiimes you might need to find a missing dependency or fix a library, but honestly thats rare.
I run ParrotOS which is a pen testing OS based off Debian. I can't get Steam running because of missing dependencies and other problems. Maybe itd be easier on Ubuntu, or i have some security binary fucking things up, but yeah, i'd much rather just dual-boot and game from Windows at the moment. Idc how much progress has been made, gaming from Windows is still 10x easier
@secinject814 I just use windows for now. If Linux gets good gaming support let alone vr support
Muta you seriously should either do more videos about technical computer science stuff or run a class on it either in schools or other learning platforms like Skillshare.
I don't think Muta has the skillet required to teach a class on Linux or computer science.
@@toasterenthusiast6188 I'm pretty sure he's mentioned his real job is something along those lines.
I actually want to use Ubuntu to see if my PC actually runs better, lately I feel like my desktop is just getting slower and slower each day.
I could love if Muta makes a video on dualboot, sure I know there are a million video and guides everywhere but I just really like the way Muta explains things.
@@alonzo_go lol when I tried that once the grub menu just didn't ever appear.
It would boot into Linux fine every time automatically but to get into windows I had to unplug the drive with Linux or change the boot order every time.
@@Ballissle I changed the boot order in bios so it would run Windows as default but when I want to run linux I just open the boot menu when the computer starts up(it is seperate from the bios menu, the key was F6 for me) and just select the linux drive from there. GRUB works too but there may be some fixes to be applied in your situation.
Awesome video! One tip: you don't have to always check the official website for discord, chrome or steam and manually install .deb. Check software center, it might be already there, then you only need to click "install". This is one mentality difference that is very hard to change switching from windows.
The limits to games is the only reason i haven’t switched over fully to linux. I run dual-boot and i suggest doing this to anyone who plays games, but would like to start using linux as well!
Wine
@@humansvd3269you can't run anticheat games over wine
90% of games can be plqyed on linux with proton, the rest is because of Anticheat not working
ITS ABOUT DRIVE ITS POWER WE STAY HUNGRY WE DEVOUR
Believe me, I want to ditch Windows. I really, really do. I've given the penguin multiple chances. But a lot of my software runs like booty under WINE, and the open-source alternatives aren't even remotely fit for purpose. So even if I did use Linux, I'd have to do everything in a VM, anyway. Gaming is the least of my worries.
I've used Linux completely for 3 years. For me it's still the ubiquitous OS for doing things that must be fast, efficient and secure. Unfortunately there's just so many interesting apps and games that windows-compatible only. You could cope with it for a long time, but there'll be a point where you'll be disappointed with the lack of options.
Just dualboot then
Try crossover
@@SpartanArmy117 He said he wanted to switch. I told him how to switch
@@SpartanArmy117 Microsoft shill detected
I can tell because your name literally is about Halo.
As a music producer using FL studio 20 i can't just ''switch'' to something that most likely wont work as good..
Yeah, there are a lot of software with no real as-good-alrernatives, but in those cases you can always dual boot if you'd like
The audio quality on Linux is worse than windows too. My music sounds flatter on Linux
LMMS is a pretty good FOSS alternative (but probably not as “professional” as FLStudio)
The easiest method for testing distributions or just practicing with Linux to see if you want to commit, is to install it on a virtual machine like Virtual Box (which is free), you can have as many different distributions as you like and test them all out. All the while none of what you do on the virtual machine affects your host machine and you can just remove any OS you don't like in a heartbeat.
Choosing Linux distro is like finding best suiting you custom rom on your phone, the issue is that because of the scale of the system the things you will be missing are hardly visible on the first few minutes. And no one want to flash another system and move all stuff again
Well I know what I'm sticking with. Manjaro
Great video, Muta. The greatest challenge for Linux users ATM should be the office suite. I tried editing a couple docx files and images simply won't work with the generally available software :/ If only people shifted to the odf file type instead... Pretty cool to see the advances of linux gaming these last years!
try WPS office you'll change your mind you can test it on windows too
@@Rafa-fc9rh agreed. WPS office was the best office suite I found on Linux.
@@Rafa-fc9rh apparently my comment got auto-deleted because I must've put a blacklisted keyword. I couldn't write everything in that single comment. I tried ALL free office solutions for Linux and all of them had some trouble. WPS is still the best suite from all I tested, but it still had problems. But thanks a lot for that comment, I think many people need that ^^
@@Dan1loBC wps office is some proprietary cr*p, maybe you should try onlyoffice
If Linux devs really wanted to. They could rip the core functionality out of windows and slap it into UNIX or even GNU. For a lot of fucking developers of Linux out there it's not even that goddamn hard. They just won't do it and that's where the problem lies.
Understandable, have a nice day.
Good news anyone reading this: DXVK supports DirectX12, and Halo MCC, Halo Infinite, Apex Legends, and Dead by Daylight all have anti cheat support on Linux, just to name a few!
Great video. Most other videos just state "if you wanna game on Linux, Steam has you covered" but none of them explain how or why that is.
but steam has you covered.
Use wine simple
@@Hellraiser988 no? They're still AAA games that refuse to run on wine. Let alone DRM bro
The only thing that I found reliable is a list that valve provided that has all the gamess compatible with proton. There's another list out there on some other site that tells you with what level of compatibility those games run at. But getting past any problems that you might have is a problem because foul really isn't keen on letting people mess with proton.
Being a Ubuntu user, there are it’s ups and downs. Most of the time, Ubuntu runs pretty good. One of the plus sides of Ubuntu is that it can run on ancient hardware. Windows 10 32-but can run on older hardware, but you don’t get that performance you want. You _could_ install 64-bit on older hardware, but I’m not sure that will work or not. Ubuntu works pretty good on legacy hardware, with Adequate performance.
With Windows, there are features to create “snapshots” of Windows installations as a backup in case something breaks. Sometime that WILL happen with someone, because look we’re talking about Microsoft. Windows is gonna do that for some users.
A plus side for Ubuntu (or Linux in general) is that it is generally more secure than Windows in ways. Yes, Ubuntu does not have a full-on virus protection like Windows does, but a good protection against malware is that Linux is protected with File permissions with the super user that is generally harder to access.
Linux and windows are good operating systems, but it generally depends on what you use them for. There are things That Microsoft windows are better at running at , And there are things that Linux runs better than Windows. Both operating systems are great for their own things, it just depends on the person. Been using the Ubuntu for quite a while now, but not as long as I have been using windows 10.
When customizing things for Linux it is far easier and better than Windows by a landslide
So youd say a computer with ubuntu for financial stuff is the safest ?
If you are just doing simple browser stuff then there are more secure linux distros (what Ubuntu is) that shouldn't be too hard to set up
@@kattygurltwo148 Ubuntu is super easy to set up, it’s basically impossible to screw it up
You can make "snapshot" if you use zfs or btrfs as your filesystem on gnu/linux
"there are it is ups and downs"
I would definitely be in the "fuck linux" camp. All the hoops you have to jump through and bullshit you have to deal with just to play games or run programs is enough for me to never want anything to do with linux. If it gets to the point where i can boot my PC up and play any game i want just like i can now, then maybe. But i'm not about to work 10 hours a day then come home and fight with my OS just to do shit. I'd just go with consoles at that point. It's not worth the hassle. It's not worth the "benefits".
yeah. its still FAR worse than windows when it comes to compatibility/ease of use. I would MAYBE use it on a laptop but it would need to vastly improve before I would consider it for a desktop.
Damn, I've always been bothered by my "gaming" laptop. it sucks when playing games, it would stutter like heck. This video is really tempting me to try this out.
The issue with Nvidia graphics that prevented Ubuntu iso from starting up is fixed now since last couple versions, so you don't need to worry about it anymore! Can confirm since I installed Ubuntu 20.04 recently.
That's a good thing to hear
Always had to disable Nouveau in the grub back in the 16.04 days. I miss unity so much.
I've used Linux off and on for years. I still default to Windows because so much of the software I use is only on Windows. Any of the Linux versions I've used have half assed alternatives to the apps I use. They are either nowhere near as functional or are horribly designed. Even with Wine, I've only managed to get a few to run properly. I really like Linux but if I can't be as productive on it, it's really just a toy to play with for me.
Good for you M8, I dunno what your use case is but I have the same reasons for using Linux. If I touch windows I'll probably start playing games or something
Its 7:12 in the morning here and the first thing I hear about in a video today is ball shaving cream