Simply making the diffs all metal makes it better in my book. I had problems with the v1 diffs and slipper clutch. Both have been rectified with the v2. Throw in the sway bars, better pinion gear, better motor mount, better arms, shocks, driveshafts, shock towers, transmitter, and wheel hexes. I think the v2 offers an improvement on everything the v1 kraton fell short on.
Great rip earl, you already answered a few of my questions and wonders, now nothing beats actually holding the radio in your hand and feeling the rc, but between you and rc guy garage, I think I'm gonna get me a 4s kraton, I'm still going to watch every bit of your all videos that I can, after all something might happen that will sway me away from it, but I'm liking what I see from the new v2
This was a great comparison with a slice of horizon hobby move! There spectrum strap on Arrma. I never really seen the any version but they are nice and light weight. Also pretty large. I thing it was a great comparison. Thanks 🙏
Great video. Can’t wait for the outcast v1, v2 comparison. Body pins is getting a real problem I think. No matter if it’s an arrma or maybe something else like corally, those body pins just don’t hold up very well. I didn’t have that much problems with those back in 2019 with my v3 outcast for example. Maybe the rubber quality has changed ??
Great comparison Earl, now you have run the V2 how would you compare it to the Tekno MT410. Taking the price difference into account of coarse as well as performance.
Yeah definately a big difference in performance from v1 to v2 kraton for sure. Going to be intersting ifthere is the same difference in the outcast . Great video as usual.
Thanks Earl! I have a Big Rock and really like it. It was my first “basher” type rig. I’m really thinking about a 4s truck and the Krayton maybe it. Shorter than the Big Rock but longer than the Outcast. I think it will be a great all round rig!
I love the 6s line, but have difficulty in getting past their perceived fragility. Almost all Arrmas get the "Arrma tough" motto, except the 6s offroaders. Maybe they can lighten them up a bit, use proper aluminum for the chassis, or just ditch the aluminum chassis altogether. At least the outlook on the new 4s line looks good in being as durable as the now legendary 3s line is.
Awesome bash and comparisons session, looks like v2 is the way to go. It would be nice to see how the v1 would do with the v2 tires. Us the reverse better on the v2 as well? Always fun to watch your videos Earl, great content.
So between this and the Outkast v2 which is better? I'm relatively new to this hobby and am looking for a good bashing truck. I don't understand the difference between the two models.
Great education video review, not a huge fan of plastic/ composite rc parts , especially in the drivetrain, i think aarma is going backwards not forward with some of their new releases, the brushed resto mod is a definite backwards step then the 3s infraction basher makes me think twice before buying a new aarma rc car. Just my honest opinion, plus in Australia there is so limited stock that unless we preorder and pay in full before arrival there is no chance of getting any if the aarma range of rc cars. Nice work. Legend 🤝👍✌🤘🇦🇺
@@earlmoorhead5555 I seen what you say in the video I was just asking to see if you had anything else you didn't like on the transmitter since you kept short and simple it felt cheep to you just asking thanks
I actually don’t like any of these spectrum from arrma the model up with the battery warning and avc is what should be used on all arrma rc in my opinion 👍👍
i immediately bindededededd them to my DX3 right outta the box. such a much better radio than the SLT3🤢AND i made the mistake of buying those dboots minkowa's or whatever they're called. for my 6S Kraton cause i couldn't find any BackFlips in stock at the time. 🤦♂see i feel like the front end on the v2 is all droopy, when you parallel parked them at the curb. mine is sittin' like that outta the box the rebound is good, but the compression seems a bit too weaksauce. i'd like your opinion on the suspensions too.
Overall I like the new V2 4s But I'm not liking how the arms are dedicated to that Chassis. So no swapping 3s arms for 4s, also the battery tray deal WTF why two setups. Man it's a tough one, transferable parts was always my arrma big win but they're slowly going traxxas.
Can’t compare it to the sledge because it would definitely loose in my opinion. Sledge is a different level and the price not cheap but ok for how durable it is afterall
I have the 4s Kraton with the sx2 I think it is and they have such a horrible delay. I know the new remotes feel cheap but they have a much better response time. Probably hard to tell with those crap tires the V1 comes with. I'm surprised you like the old remote.
Its an epic truck, but it has a major problem. I love the 10 minutes I got out of it, but the stupid couplers that go from the steel ball to the diff outdrive need to be steel themselves. The torque ripped the grub screw sideways in its hole, and ripped the axle pin through the plastic turning the hole into an oval, all within the first 10 minutes. I never even jumped the thing. One full-throttle launch on concrete to test acceleration and wheelie and it did all that damage because the plastic is too thin and too soft for 4S power in that particular spot. Hundreds of owners are reporting similar issues, so M2C Racing is already underway in making stronger parts.
@@earlmoorhead5555 yup cause if you look at traxxas they have extra plastic parts to help support the bigger rc and these new 4s don't have any extra support
Everything they did was needed my 4s kraton was the biggest pile of dog +*/* ever..the only other thing I wish they would have changed is the diffs they should have made them like a standard diff the pins they use to hold the gear in it's place in the cup used to always Break the cup or the cover of the diff they weren't recessed enough just think it's a crappy design if using plastic diff case if the case was metal it would be a different story
Simply making the diffs all metal makes it better in my book. I had problems with the v1 diffs and slipper clutch. Both have been rectified with the v2. Throw in the sway bars, better pinion gear, better motor mount, better arms, shocks, driveshafts, shock towers, transmitter, and wheel hexes. I think the v2 offers an improvement on everything the v1 kraton fell short on.
Great rip earl, you already answered a few of my questions and wonders, now nothing beats actually holding the radio in your hand and feeling the rc, but between you and rc guy garage, I think I'm gonna get me a 4s kraton, I'm still going to watch every bit of your all videos that I can, after all something might happen that will sway me away from it, but I'm liking what I see from the new v2
Thanks 🙏
Great comparison can't wait for the outcast video.
Thanks Earl that v2 looks good it's on order right now watched your vido and had to have it now for the outcast keep up good worke
Thanks 🙏 it impressed me for sure a big difference from the v1 hopefully it holds up awhile compared to the bigrock V2
Man watching your vids made me bust out my Emaxx 3908 and rip away. I haven’t ran my emaxx in about 2 years
I need one of these I think. Nice run buddy.
V1 vs. V2. Looks like a win for the V2 Kraton. 😎💯💯💯
The V2 Kraton has my vote , they look very quick and definitely have the Better tires. There finally in stock, might have to get one.
This was a great comparison with a slice of horizon hobby move! There spectrum strap on Arrma. I never really seen the any version but they are nice and light weight. Also pretty large. I thing it was a great comparison. Thanks 🙏
Nice! I’m in..As soon as my LHS gets them in, I’m going to grab it. Thanks for the review and comparisons 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks 🙏 I had me shocked 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 me as well. I can’t wait🤙🏽
Great video. Can’t wait for the outcast v1, v2 comparison.
Body pins is getting a real problem I think. No matter if it’s an arrma or maybe something else like corally, those body pins just don’t hold up very well. I didn’t have that much problems with those back in 2019 with my v3 outcast for example. Maybe the rubber quality has changed ??
Yeah every rc I have has ripped em out of them rubber straps. At this point if they aren't working on one it's a problem
Nice vid Earl. Definitely Liking the V-2 myself.
Had me surprised how differently it drives compared to the v1
Thank you.
Great comparison Earl, now you have run the V2 how would you compare it to the Tekno MT410. Taking the price difference into account of coarse as well as performance.
Yeah definately a big difference in performance from v1 to v2 kraton for sure. Going to be intersting ifthere is the same difference in the outcast . Great video as usual.
Thanks
Thanks Earl! I have a Big Rock and really like it. It was my first “basher” type rig. I’m really thinking about a 4s truck and the Krayton maybe it. Shorter than the Big Rock but longer than the Outcast. I think it will be a great all round rig!
It’s a good step up rc and a lot of the big rock parts can be used as back up parts till you get the correct parts in 👍👍
I have the outcast 6s exb, notorious 6s and picked up the v2 4s. The outcast are beasts on launch ramps. Eventually I will pick up a kraton also.
Would you be so kind to provide an exact measurement of the ground clearance for the Kraton 4s v2?
It’s great that Arrma brought back the 4s line and you did a great comparison of the two versions. For me I’m sticking with the 6s line.👍💯
Nice 👍 I understand I feel the 4s is great for wet areas and the beach 👍👍
I love the 6s line, but have difficulty in getting past their perceived fragility. Almost all Arrmas get the "Arrma tough" motto, except the 6s offroaders. Maybe they can lighten them up a bit, use proper aluminum for the chassis, or just ditch the aluminum chassis altogether. At least the outlook on the new 4s line looks good in being as durable as the now legendary 3s line is.
I think the V2 looks great! We'll see about the long term durability, but it has quite a few nice features.
Release in the Uk has been put back again on all the 4s line 😭
Cool video doggy. The V1 seemed to be better in the air, to bad you didn’t switch the tires to get a more even comparison.
One uses 17mm nuts the old version 8 mm nuts but I’ll get the conversation done ✅
The v1 does look like it has street tires on it. Poor choice for a basher. Great video 👍🏻
I think the v2 4s looks a winner. Plenty fast enough and being plastic a great little grab and go basher.
Awesome bash and comparisons session, looks like v2 is the way to go. It would be nice to see how the v1 would do with the v2 tires. Us the reverse better on the v2 as well?
Always fun to watch your videos Earl, great content.
Reverse is about the same
Looks good and definitely the tires make the difference 👌💣 V2 is better all-around
AWESOME VIDEO 👍WHAT BATTERY YOU RUNNING SOFT PACK OR HARD PACK I JUST ORDERED 1 MY SELF.
I. The V2 I have a spectrum hard case 5000 mah 50c pack v1 lectron pro soft pack same rating
I'd bet we will see some backflips on the v1.
I think I need to get a V2 for myself, lol, Great video and Awesome review! 😁🤙🏼🪂
V2😤
So between this and the Outkast v2 which is better? I'm relatively new to this hobby and am looking for a good bashing truck. I don't understand the difference between the two models.
Idk haven’t ran the outcast yet
@@earlmoorhead5555 I look forward to when you do. Hopefully I can understand the difference then. 😂
Great education video review, not a huge fan of plastic/ composite rc parts , especially in the drivetrain, i think aarma is going backwards not forward with some of their new releases, the brushed resto mod is a definite backwards step then the 3s infraction basher makes me think twice before buying a new aarma rc car.
Just my honest opinion, plus in Australia there is so limited stock that unless we preorder and pay in full before arrival there is no chance of getting any if the aarma range of rc cars.
Nice work.
Legend 🤝👍✌🤘🇦🇺
Man that place looks like snake city. 🐍
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If u could only get one of the new 4s what would u recommend? ✌🏼💚
Idk not haven’t ran the outcast but I’ll do a video
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How you like the transmitter eral ?
I change mine to a DumboRC and it's way better 👍
I talked about them in the video 🤔
@@earlmoorhead5555 I seen what you say in the video I was just asking to see if you had anything else you didn't like on the transmitter since you kept short and simple it felt cheep to you just asking thanks
I actually don’t like any of these spectrum from arrma the model up with the battery warning and avc is what should be used on all arrma rc in my opinion 👍👍
v2 definitely has made the much needed changes
i immediately bindededededd them to my DX3 right outta the box. such a much better radio than the SLT3🤢AND i made the mistake of buying those dboots minkowa's or whatever they're called. for my 6S Kraton cause i couldn't find any BackFlips in stock at the time. 🤦♂see i feel like the front end on the v2 is all droopy, when you parallel parked them at the curb. mine is sittin' like that outta the box the rebound is good, but the compression seems a bit too weaksauce. i'd like your opinion on the suspensions too.
Overall I like the new V2 4s But I'm not liking how the arms are dedicated to that Chassis. So no swapping 3s arms for 4s, also the battery tray deal WTF why two setups.
Man it's a tough one, transferable parts was always my arrma big win but they're slowly going traxxas.
Looks good and cheaper than the sledge!
Yes but the sledge is a beast this is a good daily rc so you don’t tear up the sledge 👍👌
Can’t compare it to the sledge because it would definitely loose in my opinion. Sledge is a different level and the price not cheap but ok for how durable it is afterall
I have the 4s Kraton with the sx2 I think it is and they have such a horrible delay. I know the new remotes feel cheap but they have a much better response time. Probably hard to tell with those crap tires the V1 comes with. I'm surprised you like the old remote.
Some of the scx2 had terrible range and laggy it was hit or miss you’ll see the V2 controller are possibly having another issue 🤔🤔
Its an epic truck, but it has a major problem. I love the 10 minutes I got out of it, but the stupid couplers that go from the steel ball to the diff outdrive need to be steel themselves. The torque ripped the grub screw sideways in its hole, and ripped the axle pin through the plastic turning the hole into an oval, all within the first 10 minutes. I never even jumped the thing. One full-throttle launch on concrete to test acceleration and wheelie and it did all that damage because the plastic is too thin and too soft for 4S power in that particular spot. Hundreds of owners are reporting similar issues, so M2C Racing is already underway in making stronger parts.
Seen razor rc broke his battery straps and cracked his chasis in least 2 places on his v2 4s kraton. 2nd run with it.
Yes as his battery strap broke he continued to run it and seems the battery was beating the chassis up on every landing 👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 so far my outcast is good to go. Putting it on a different controller and run till I brake something
Nice 👍
Upgraded v1 vs box v2 i guess are equal
Its all hype...they are pushing the limits of the plastic chassis by making it longer
Yes possibly it really drive way better then the v1 idk how much abuse these chassis can take and for how long 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 yup cause if you look at traxxas they have extra plastic parts to help support the bigger rc and these new 4s don't have any extra support
Damn is it dry as heck out there.
Yes next month will be fires in California 😳
just crash the v1 into that kids rc hahah!!! i have the belted tires from the talian they work grate on the v1!
Earl, you have 2 "Firsts" in here... Better get RC Guy Garage on the phone! :) Great comparison based on the history I've seen! Fair and Unbiased.. :)
STAY AWAY from those LIGHT POLES!!!!!!
Right lol 😂
Rip it 👍🏻
Everything they did was needed my 4s kraton was the biggest pile of dog +*/* ever..the only other thing I wish they would have changed is the diffs they should have made them like a standard diff the pins they use to hold the gear in it's place in the cup used to always Break the cup or the cover of the diff they weren't recessed enough just think it's a crappy design if using plastic diff case if the case was metal it would be a different story
Like the hot racing differential I put in my v1 ?
Turn off AVC Setting on V2
It doesn’t have avc 🤔😳
Crappy chassis on the new one I’ve heard
Hmm razor rc cracked his but he also bent the sledge chassis first time out he definitely send the rc 👍👍
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There here 😳beast mode and spike always comment 🤔
Did you see his video 🤷🏻♂️
@@earlmoorhead5555 No. I only watch quality channels like yours.
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