Vise Restoration Italian Steel Dovetail Style
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- Full Restoration of this great 100mm bench vise.
FZA italian brand vise made of steel (ACCIAIO means steel in italian).
I really love the dovetail slide for the moving jaw, it's still in great shape even if it was completely stuck. Probably after being left outside for a very long time.
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I love a welded vise. You can smack on them and they wont break. And they can be repaired indefinitely. No blacksmith ever used a cast
leg- vise.
Мужик, я тебя не знаю и вообще случайно попал на твой канал. Но блин - это просто охеренно! Ты просто даёшь им вторую жизнь!! А следить за твоей работой одно удовольствие!! Шикарно
I love how you installed it and are actually going to use it. This makes me happy.
That washer you made from scratch was just pure joy and amazing job .
But I can't figure out why he didn't make it just out of sheet metal
@@geoffmcfarlin412 because that will be boring .
Не понятно почему он не сделал шайбу толще чтобы убрать люфт.
Yeah
Good for another 100 years - beautiful job
This was a fantastic restoration! Love watching these, solid job! :)
Hand-grooving the jaw plates, though? Holy cow, what a job! 8-D
Nerdforge ju,
Ner dforge
Nerdforge nolujar
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very nice restoration, keep it up you are an inspiration to many, myself included. Old tools don't die they just need a bit of love.
It takes broad shoulders and logical thinking to clean and fix a vise it's a challenge! Gorgeous vise!!!
Restored stuff has its own beautiful character
Nicely done!
Seems like a right of passage to do a vice, if you do will you pick an obscure one?
Like a Hindustani railway vice or a late period Eskimo penguin vice.
Hand Tool Rescue nices bro
It's just an old vise for crying out loud...yet here I sit...mesmerized and fascinated by it all. Beautiful job, bravo sir.
watching these videos is honest to god therapeutic for me
Originally I thought you were going to strip the original green paint for another color. Glad you restored it to green again! Great color!
These videos are extremely satisfying, and filled with all sorts of knowledge on power tools love it
I enjoy watching you fabricate parts and welding material back into the vise. It seems like you are really restoring it so it can be put back into use rather than a show piece.
From all of us who have a.d.d.
We luv your videos!
Great work and thank you for no music!
Keep up the great work!
You really take a lot of pride in your work and it shows. Great job.
Всегда найдутся любители старого инструмента,приведут в порядок вдохнут в него жизнь и он будет служить верой и правдой не один десяток лет !Super!
when i used to do metal working, i had about a 10% chance of breaking a tap in every hole i did.
no matter how slowly and carefully i went
crazy to me to see so many perfect taps in these videos, and I can't recall seeing one break
Wowwwww the first person that actually cares for the veiwers eyes while welding
I feel like I got ripped just from watching you hammering that first part out lol
That shine in the end clean and smooth, just love it
Only just came across your channel and was really impressed at the love and dedication that you put into that restoration. Subbed.
By wAtching this man, his craftsmanship is great!
A lot more satisfying to watch than videos that have that title.....
Turn out nice. I like the hammered green paint.
I used to work on Stevenato machines in a glass vial making factory, they were finished in the same shade of paint, always liked the colour, unfortunately no-one seems to stock it in the UK.
a lot of the italian macinery is green, I have worked on wood working, machining and such and almost all of it was green and all the wires inside WHITE!!! no black or blue or red or green all white!! haha
AWESOME JOB. TIME TO BUILD A SAND BLASTER
I love to watch a craftsman practicing their work!! Do not pay attention to any of the naysayers here! I wish I had the skills to do these things!! Job well done young man!!
Beautiful work. How 2.8K could dislike this video I have no idea.
I wish I had the tools... And skills... And knowledge to do stuff like that! But, since I'm broke and not skilled at all, I'll keep watching videos like this of people doing it a lot better than I could ever do!!
MrBusDrivr you do have the skills I promise as a matter of fact almost every 13 year old young man on your block has the same skill set...
@MrBusDrivr There really is not much skill needed. Most of it was chipping/grinding rust away, and drilling new holes. The only thing I saw that required a little knowledge was using the lathe which only takes a few hours to learn to use. Just work at a metal shop for a few weeks, and you'll get the "skills" you want.
just remember; grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't.
I've never in my life wanted to own a vice more than I do right now. Great work sir!
+Namesi If you do much work in a shop/garage a good vise is an absolute must. It holds things securely so you can work on them, it can be used for compression tasks, it can bend metals you need bent etc. Like the one in this video you can often find old vises cheap in second hand shops, junk yards, etc. For vises in reasonably good condition, you do not have to do this thorough a restoration. Just take apart clean, and lubricate. That is typically all I do.
If you do not own a vice already, you do not belong to this channel.
It's not a Black Beard project without the hammered green paint :)
The rebar drift......you are a true fixer!
FANTASTIC WORK !
After all that hard work you put into it I sure hope you kept that for yourself!
The addition of a belt sander, a lathe and a pillar drill would make my workshop pretty much like yours. I need to get saving _now_ !
this restoring videos are sooooo satisfying
I genuinely believed I was watching one of Hand Tool Rescue's videos. It wasn't until you didn't use Evaporust that I started doubting
Thank you?
You are a very excellent man
You made vice jaws by hand. With a hack saw. Holy crap that is awesome. Glad I found your channel.
My God... It's alive!!! All kidding aside, very nice job. I especially liked that you used old tools to restore this old tool. My first time to visit your channel. I'll be back.
bellissima morsa!! una fza a coda di rondine nuova non la trovi a meno di 200 euro!! quindi ottimo lavoro
TheDacchio la fza 120 mm acciaio come questa viene circa 500 eur nuova
I read the description with the italian accent.
Magari voi mi sapete rispondere, principalmente che differenza passa tra una morsa da 30 euro e una da 500 ?
Sono diversi i tipi di acciaio impiegati, la precisione nella forgiatura e le tolleranze nelle lavorazioni a macchina. Usandola quotidianamente quella da 30 euro ti dura una settimana, quella da 500 dura più di te. E comunque la differenza è abissale, un po' come una panda del '92 e una bugatti.. saranno entrambe macchine ma la differenza la si vede ad occhio.
Chissà cosa si chiede un'inglese quando legge commenti del genere!😂
I really love seeing all these old tools brought back to their former glory,they were made during a time that companies made good working dependable tools,but also made good looking tools that had style with beautiful lines by people who cared,thank you for sharing another great look into what you are able to do with some imagination and some serious skills with the tools and materials you work with,all the best to you and yours my friend :-) .By the way do you not use your name on the channel anywhere for a reason which i totally respect,so do you have a nick name we can use when referring to you in comments like lefty,billy the kid,bob,it just feels strange not being able to address you by name,growing up it was a way of showing respect,or just forget i brought it up ;-)
Thanks Ron!!! All the best to you too. My name is Gader, I don't have any particular reason, just like to have Black Beard as "brand" if you know what I mean :)
I completely understand you want all your hard work to speak for your brand and business not for the person,but also you could look at it like this without you behind the scenes and in front of the camera,doing what it is that you have been doing ,the brand may have never become what it has so far and much farther in the future,because without the maker,craftsman,or artist that Gader is there would be no black beard,all the best my friend,thanks for always getting back when i reach out with a question
Ron Sanford 4
Awesome man, just, awesome. You make me understand something: when we need a tool, we don't have to spend a lot of money on a new one, we just have to use creativity, spend time, use our avalaible tools, restore an old one, and have fun. And the most important: to learn on the process. Just magnificent. Thank you.
Gosh I love how hammerite paint makes finished projects look that is a beautiful addition to your workshop
Beautiful restauration. Thanks for showing
So well restaured.
этот мужик как всегда молодец!)
I love seeing old tools being rescued.
For my part, as far as welding goes, only to fix large functional defects... ie around the jaws etc. Part of the old tool is the patina it picks up with time and use. All the nicks, dings and even the defects like imperfections in the casting all tell a tale. To me, that tale of perhaps generations of craftsmen using it is the glory of the old tool.
This is the bestest restoration of vise in YT!
Bellissimo!
KaliyaK somebody toucha ma spaghetti
I love small restorations like this. Electrolysis is such an awesome process, too. If you've never tried one, a "needle scaler" is an excellent way to knock off deposits, filler, and scale...it can really get into those tough spots and it won't damage cast iron.
STEVE electrolysis is cool and all, but he could have bead blasted it to look new then coated it with an enamel, much faster process.
or acid dip it for 1 minute in chloridric acid
Wouldn't that remove a lot of the hardening on the metal? Forgive my naivete.
xExplosionsofAwesome not in cast iron...in critical applications electrolysis is said to cause “hydrogen embrittlement” which I take to mean a molecular change that would affect properties like hardness, etc. but for a 100 year old rusted tool it works great. Needle scaling too...it peens the surface and and is often used to relieve stresses in cast iron after welding.
I admire how much detail u put in your work mate!! Good job as always! love from Greece!
give this man the medals he deserve
+ Black Beard Projects hey man seems like everybody commenting here has a blasting cabinet at home and all of them are NASA-grade certified engineers on vise restoration... i wouldn´t have the stomach to put a video of this quality and have everybody dissing my methods...so congratulations and best regards from a fellow handyman...PS( next time you should grind without the disc guard just to see the rage of the people)
Sand or glass bead blasting is so much quicker, and leaves a good anchor pattern for coating. Try it.
@@gordbaker896 No fun.
@@biggaspirit1 Perhaps not much fun but gives a better result in very short time. I am in the Industrial Coating Inspection business and am able to get a good price for surface preparation. Vital when restoring 40+ Mighty Tonkas.
Gord Baker Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hugo B. As a rank amateur's part-time apprentice I’m gobsmacked at the faults others find and how they put their opinion across. I don't think anyone would be upset about suggestions, especially when the person suggesting has demonstrated their own prowess on their channel. It’s the straight off criticism to boost someone's pathetic ego I find annoying.
I was a chef who completed a law degree at 40, I don’t know any of this stuff and only started doing a bit when I’ll health forced me into early semi retirement. I’m immensely grateful for every video uploaded, I learn something from every one of them.
Precioso!!! Muy buen trabajo compañero
I love watching videos like this, Instead watching bad news, Killing people each other. Good job my friend.
It always feels good when you restore something and put it back to use. Priceless!
Student: “master your hands are very steady. Will you teach me, I am ready.”
Teacher: “observe, I will teach you the secrets of the steady hand kungfu. This is called ‘cross hatching’.”
What camera do you use? It has unusually good sharpness, color rendition & contrast, and a great in-focus range(depth of field) on close up shots. Camera quality really contributes to the great quality of your videos.
Galaxy s7
I thought he sharpened the video with one of those tools,
@@andreashoppe1969 Youre a legent
I never before appreciated the sheer skill and knowledge required to do what you are doing. I have (in the distant past) used several of the tools you are "saving" but would not even know where to begin to restore them. You go dude.
So refreshing watching someone with real skills do a refurb properly, real skills real talent nice work
Looks great but hope you don't use it to hard on that particle board top or it'll just pop off lol Great job though!!
Eheh true! I don't think I will leave it there, no much use in that spot with the other big blue vise just in front of it :')
Maybe better to have just ended the video at the point before mounting it. I think every viewers jaw dropped at that point.
18:17 the wife 😂😂
Florence Gravano lol
Watched this for the second time. Still love it. Amazing job.
Amazing work, i like how you pay attention to detail, I wouldn't have caught the rust on the underside of the vice until it was to late. Great work.
Супер!
Слава Петров petrov
Receb Memmedov маммедов
Игорь Игоревич Igorevich
0:25-0:47 Interestingly enough, this part would have went smoother if you'd had a vice to clamp it down
Hah, I'd been thinking the same thing! "Maybe it would stay still if he put it in a vice!"
Irony I guess
Ai Musakino you sneaky little punner
Microsoft Pro huehue
I have an assignment due tomorrow. why am i watching this awesome video?!
That's effing beautiful, man. Was so glad you painted it.
Quedó excelente, pero no era más fácil arenarla?
Si y queda mas original porque le daria la textura de fundición.
Si es mas fácil, el problema es los recursos que se disponen😁😀
if only you had a vice when trying separate those components hahah
the creator of this will be so happy
That's absolutely beautiful. It's rare to see such truly professional work and attention to detail. Thank you for the good video.
Muy buen trabajo !!! Lo que no se es como se fija esta morsa a una mesa de trabajo. Le falta alguna pieza de fijación ??? Espero alguna respuesta. Gracias. Desde Adrogué BsAs Argentina para el resto del mundo.
juan carlos Caballero tiene agujeros para atornillarla a la mesa uno atrás y dos al frente. Yo tengo una morsa como esa.
Existe para algunos modelos un sistema giratorio, pero este modelo no lo tiene
Nice restoration of that old vice.
Any idea of how old it actually is?
How long did you leave it in the electrolysis bath?
When I did an old drill press that had about 4 coats of paint on it and was rusty I left it in for about two days, I also warmed the water, it was bare metal when it came out, and best of all I did not have to use that paint stripper, that stuff sure works but man is it nasty! LOL
What rods did you use to weld the vice?
Did you preheat the vice?
I have found that the older cast iron welds easier than the cheap modern stuff, in fact I MIG welded the table on my 1963 era Japanese drill press, came out really good.
I was wondering how you were going to do the cross hatching on the vice plate faces, when I saw you bring out the hacksaw, I just kinda went WOW!! Nice job, a steady hand you have for sure!
Again I say "WOW" what a great restoration, I doubt you could buy a good vice like that today for a reasonable amount of money.
The video was great too, and a lot of work, thanks for taking the time, I've subbed!
Cheers from Tokyo Japan!
vice is steel, not cast iron. ACCIAIO means steel in italian!
Thank you!! :) Left in there only for 3-4hr. I'm always in a rush, next time I will try longer period if I can!
Not sure about rods, just the cheapest :') Didn't preheat at all! Thanks again.
I was going to ask the same questions about rod selection and preheating. I would assume 7018 rod , especially if not preheating. I hear it's good to preheat parts to be painted also, to get a stronger bond, but not so hot like for welding.
Nice job ! Ive always been fascinated by old vices since i was a kid ? It was my fathers most treasured tool in our workshop and he used his as a press A lot when working on antique automobiles and numerous machinery He grew up with many machinists and metal working family members , we always had a heavy duty vise mounted to a steel workbench in good working order ! He was very meticulous about tuning it up and keeping it Painted it actually was my grandfathers originally ( his father) i also did like the way you cross hatched the jaws by hand also
The Tokyo Craftsman ,not that old... maybe 1967,69. And the horseshoe restrainer he cut is actually supposed to have bushings and a rubber boots in behind it sealed with an O-ring to old grease, and a complete washer in its entirety made from hardened steel,and not a horseshoe cut out of standard stock.there's supposed to be a splash pan usually brass, although sometimes made of stainless, which covers the mounting box underneath it's actually set up like the master cylinder on a car,and is supposed to be packed with grease..The pads that he half-heartedly Manufactured out of standard stock will more likely not disintegrate after the first real use,,undoubtedly the the no slip skid lines he cut into the metal will spread out and look like s***... He could have ordered a set of four cut from high carbon hardened stee, manufactured by the old Blue Point company onlinel,and they would have been a lot cheaper there only$ 22 a set,and they're actually Grooved really nicely fire Hardened furnace blasted,and cool quenched in oil after,so the grooves won't spread out after the first couple of uses, and again he could have gotten the retaining washer The Grommet,and the bushing set complete with o-ring from the same company,oh and even the screw if need be,and made from hardened steel.. I would like to at least give him props on the paint job but here again in my opinion he is lapsing he should have first tacked up all the dings scratches and low spots with his Mig,and then grinded them out coming as close to the original finish in the metal as possible... We then should have applied and enamel primer spray-on and not with a brush,and then you should have allowed it to dry out in the sun for about 5 hours at least.After this he should have scuffed it and then brushed on an acrylic clear or even a urethane, and then again allow this to dry out in the sun for about 5 hours. Afterwards he should have applied to the Hammer green allowed it to dry in the same manner, because in all honesty the hammered green paint by itself will start showing ware immediately,and especially considering he added no hardener to the paint that I seen anyway, and it's not like even if there's hardener in the paint It's an adequate amount,and especially for something like a vice,and considering the paint had no acrylic,and he only brushed on a thin coat at best,and yes he could have been a little more liberal with the paint my God he had a hole Court, but probably the most worrisome thinng that he did wrong,, as it pertains to the paint job was also painting the slides,as this is a big-time no n, and especially if you're not going to add hardener to the paint,or bake the Finish...Paint on a metal to metal surface,which is constantly in motion during the use of the equipment,and especially equipment like a vise which is under pressure can only mean one thing,, wear and tear and paint disintegrating,,which means the very first time the slide is used in a real setting means it will be stripped clean,and only start the other paint around that immediate area to start pilling,which means this Vice although it's pretty to look at now well somewhat anyway ,but it will probably look like s*** once the first grease stain hits it..However it's not like it's going to matter much anyway considering the screw will wear out in about a month or so after any real use, because considering is just mounted to his work bench without the brass Greece detainer it will fill with sawdust in no time,or in his shop metal shaving which is even considering the man mounted it to his work bench,and didn't even lay down a piece of old rubber mat or anyting in the way of a gasket,and I do mean nothing to keep s*** out of the screw, it's not like the the brass filler lid is on the damn thing,why did he mounted in the first place,,,but anyway what do you expect from a vice you pick up in the scrap yard,and bring home to make yourself famous on TH-cam with... I'm not trash his job I'm just keeping it real it was an average field at Best But to be honest with you quite a mature anybody can run a drill press and a lathe that's out of date by about 50 years,it will do what it was intended to do which was fill the space on TH-cam channel,but you people need to stop calling it the best thing since sliced bread s*** like expert awesome job fabulous wonderful my God you would think you all were talking about a brain surgeon or someone building a rocket somewhere the guy painted a vice that's it,,. The job wasn't great it was average,but other than ridiculously simple it was alright.
Keyless chucks are a pain in the ass! Nice resto!
A top notch restoration of a very old vice,required a lot of detailed work,also also very well made vidio,gets my 5 ☆ rating
For me, I would of put it in a bucket of 50/50 solution of hydrochloric acid and clean water. Soak 2 hours and then check how much rust was gone. When happy with results rinse in clean water. Wipe down. Spray with WD40 and then easily dismantle.
first usefull comment on this video...tried and true method...but depending on the concentration of the acid you can have the job done on less than a minute
@@MrHBSoftware more acid is quicker but it's harder to control. And never forget to neutralise the acid with some sodium bicarbonate in water. If not, it could still etch the piece once it's out of the bucket.
Bob and Hugo, great ideas,, I was watching and I am an electrician, and wondering hey, he might damage the shaft or score the edges as hard as he is hammering, why doesnt he use a lube first,, well a fine job and great restoration, and I have done about 7 vises from miniscule to 300 pounders,, and none looked this good lol as for jason, go get a hug from mama, sounds like you had a beer too many or are a restoration fuck up,, bye
4:34 Maledette spine a foro cieco
Nice Work !
Considering the shape it was in when you got it you did an excellent gob with the resto!
Any particular reason you beat on the jaw deforming it? Surely you could have went back and forth with it a few times to loosen things up more. Instead of hammering it into a tight spot. Also the bolt being chiseled off... Heat it up a few times, then once it's cooled off just tap on it lightly for a while. It will get loose enough to come out by hand if worked over properly. Nice restoration though...glad to see your channel growing so well.
recommend next sandblasting, you will save a few days ..
How have I not known about this channel until today? Amazing work!
Beautiful vise, excellent restoration and video, thank you for sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍
Did he try to hammer out a screw 5:00
Hunter Nadon - He was using a manual impact driver. Each time you hit the end with a hammer it turns the screw just a little, but with a lot of force. Although it was apparently not enough.
@@nathanjohansen7169 I've had similar difficulties with plain slotted screws where the slot is worn, and I'd have done the same thing to fix it. The Allen screw replacements will fare a lot better.
Отпескоструить, покрасить и смазать - вся работа
NightPanel нормальные герои всегда идут в обход.
@@dekus80 сколько он заработал? хотя бы примерно
@@dekus80 шоб мы так жили!
Есть тиски у кого?Куплю дорого!!!!😁
Епт за такие деньги скоро ржавых тисков днем с огнем не найдешь
Excellent restoration, top class old school skills too.
Highly enjoyable, and educational; thank you for posting it.
here's a tip. they have this thing called oil that makes things slippery and you won't have to bash the jaws to smithereens to get it apart
TgWags69 I cannot fathom out why, when the screw would not turn he chose to shear it instead of drilling the head off!!!
they also make a really cool tool called a drill press
WD40
Here’s a fact. He created new things called jaws, so he didn’t need to take care of the old ones.
What he ruined was the body of the vise. He re-welds it later which adds insult to injury crystallizing the cast iron. It is a shame how many ways he ruined this vise...but hey it has a really nice coat of paint....that's all that matters...cue up the "dude it so awesome" comments from the unknowing
You are going to be hating life when 2 years from now you mount something in that vise and go to bend it or hammer hard on it and them tiny screws pop out of that particle board bench top & that vise jumps onto your toes.
No worries, I'm not leaving it there! Mounted to that particle board just to show it off, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't last a week there if used :')
This video inspired me to restore mine, thank you 🙂
You are amazing. Truly a work of art. Artists in all aspects of life, and you're one of them.
Jaws should be sharp square corner. IMHO
dislike what? strange people...
Altuğ'un atölyesi ehh maybe the destroying of the ground (or at least milled) seat of the vise grips at the beginning tgrough hammering it out, wich destroyes tge surface completely
Because of some unprofessional steps in the process of the restauration.. even though I wouldn't give a dislike because of that
tamamen kapanmıyor lo belki ondandır..
Right
I didn’t dislike but I would’ve used flat head hardware instead of Allen’s and Phillips. More correct for the era. Small detail stuff makes the difference in restoration unless you’re just going for function.
his videos are oddly satisfiying
It must be an amazing feeling every time you see these tools you restored in your workshop...
Ktoś z Polski 😀
Пескоструй не пробывал время сократил бы на много
ты видел как он изготавливал губки? Этот парень не ищет легких путей, у него инструментов валом, думаю и пескоструй тоже есть.
Бесконечно долго можно смотреть на огонь, воду, и на то, как другие работают...
И легче это делать на пожаре...
Watching your work, therapy.