Daily Word | 1 Timothy 2 | Can Women be Pastors?
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- Daily Word | 1 Timothy 2 | Can Women be Pastors?
Pastor Costi Hinn takes us through 1 Timothy 2 on the Daily Word, a ministry of Redeemer Bible Church in Gilbert, Arizona.
Can Women be Pastors? (1 Timothy 2). God, in His sovereign order, has given different positions and roles to men and women. We are equal in Him spiritually. We are distinct by design. Men are men, and women are women. We are to complement one another in our roles. We are a body, and we work together with our distinct and unique designs.
Culture does not change that. Feminism does not change that. Feelings and emotions do not change that. Even gifting doesn’t change that. The simple fact is that we are to play our roles, as equals in the body, exercising authority where God has instructed us.
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Thank you, Costi. It took me a while to grasp this because I had been a woman in authority and leadership in the secular world. I assumed, wrongly, that God was preparing me for such a role in His church. Instead, He showed me humility! What a Blessing! Preach on! BTW, I visited your church in August and wanted to say hello but you were engaged in conversation with other fellow admirers. Just wanted to tell you it is a blessing beyond words to see and bear witness to all God has done in you! I pray for such a redemption of spirit in the heart of your wayward family members, especially your uncle. God Bless!!!!
Was attending a mega church here in Gilbert for years. Of course they avoided teaching on controversial topics in the Bible. I love that Redeemer's pastors don't shy away from these verses. Thank you for giving us the Word today.
I saw this on TH-cam and I’ve got to say thank you for standing for truth. I’ve got a 10 year old brother (we’ve got a large age gap) and when he sleeps over my house I do mornings devotional with him. I told him that men have a very unique role over the word of God that women will never be able to fill. I told him women can’t be pastors. He was astonished. I was just inoculating him from non biblical churches. He attends a Christian school and and was sharing this with his fellow classmates. The students started to tell him he was wrong and the his teacher further affirmed that women’s could be pastors. My brother was no way discouraged instead he asked me about the scriptures to back my claim. Anyways again thanks for standing up for truth.
He should get used to it. I was smarter than my teachers too.
Cost I, I found Redeemed Bible Church here on YT during covid. Cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate all the pastors. You all rightly decide the Word. Worship is Godly, true worship, not a rock concert. Blessings!!
The Spirit of the Lord rescued me out of a church where most of the elders were women and the pastor was a woman. The men mostly took backseats in the ministry. Having come out from there and being able to see clearly (because of the teaching of God's Word IN CONTEXT, I TOTALLY understand the wealth of wisdom of God's order. There is so much deception in that church...from the "top" down. I (a young woman) was offered a role of teaching new converts (men and women), and the checks in my spirit became stronger than ever. I had to flee.
Thank you, Costi for the way you preach the truth in love. I'm proud to be a woman of God!
Love the baseball analogy. Thank you men for your teachings:-)
Brother Costi, thank you for not compromising God's Word for the sake of appeasing Women. Your love for Christ is greater. Rightly dividing the Word is loving God with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength. The Holy Spirit teaches, leads and guides us in all truth. May our Lord continue to bless you and yours. Jesus Is Coming Back Soon. We must make our Election Sure. 🔥 🔥 🔥
Thank you pastor Costi!
There were no rogue women in Paul's day going around teaching/preaching the Word outside of church, if there had been Paul would had addressed it. Women are not to teach, preach, nor hold any office over men in the church. A woman's conference is another way to have church outside of a weekly church gathering, for that matter starting a women's only church is the same approach. Many want to say "as long as men are not present" then it's ok for a woman to teach/preach, another lie from the pit of hell. Also bringing in a woman's teaching guide/book is another way to subvert scripture, different approach however same scriptures apply.
Now keep in mind a testimony is not teaching, nor is sharing with another what you saw and heard in relation to God moving in another's life. A woman can sing on a worship team, but not hold an office over a man, such as worship leader. Can a woman prophesy, yes, however prophecy is not teaching but foretelling an event.
Paul further makes his case in 1Timothy 2:11-15, 1 Cor 14:34-38) defaulting back to creation and the very words of Christ as to why men are the head over the woman even as Christ is head over the church. When it comes to headship in home or church men are the responsible party to teach, and to lead in authority. We also see the "Jezebel" spirit at work in Revelation 2 where a woman is teaching, and seducing others to commit sexual immorality, Jesus calls her out and pronounces a deadly judgement on her and those that follow her.
Clearly in Titus 2:3 the older women teach the younger in aspect of home rearing and in honor of the husbands, nothing else implied or given for women to teach exegetically out of scripture.
Men are becoming increasingly passive in their God given authority because the church has relinquished spiritual roles to women. This statement is in no way meant to demean a woman of her worth or value in or outside the home, but only bestow the beauty of honor and respect due to her in the honoring of God’s Word. Ministries are deciding positions based on abilities instead of spiritualities. Now administratively this is permissible, however, authoritatively this is opposed to everything written down in scripture, that being, gender roles being switched when it comes to Paul’s instruction concerning who’s qualified to teach or lead.
We wonder in today’s society why boys want to be girls, men want to be women, and vice versa. If the church has corrupted gender roles, then why expect anything different from the world? That’s right, majority of churches get a big flunking “F” when it comes to fighting for the faith. Churches have no right to speak against homosexuality when they themselves are switching the spiritual roles of men and women authoritatively,
Thank you, Costi, for your message today. Clear and concise. Bless ya heaps.
From Australia.
Such clarity to the word and intentions of our Lord concerning His order of things! Thank you 😊 Pastor Costi. And...I had to smile at the baseball analogy, knowing you ❤️ baseball ⚾️😊😊😊
Thank you Amen
Thanks for the clarification of this controversial topic. This is really a big problem in the body of Christ and it's even worse now because people cherry pick the Bible to suit their position and sometimes overlook some to still suit their position also.
Thank you
Thanks Costi. Great job!
Thank you so informative and thank you for using so much scripture to back up your point. God Bless you
Great teaching sir 👍🏾🙏🏾
Good afternoon. Thank you for speaking Biblical truth
I just watched you on Doreen Virtue channel, great interview! I'm going to be looking forward to listening to more of you teaching the word. Thanks
Paul taught the same everywhere in every church (1 Corinthians 4:17) so we all should know our roles are to be joyfully fulfilled from given positions for God’s glory. Great clarity about submission. Thank you, Costi!!
That was a great teaching and explanation of Godly roles in the church. I pray the Holy Spirit uses you more and draws you nearer to Him in Jesus mighty name.
Hi Costi, very clear explanation, yes please send me a copy. Blessings 🙏🏻❤️
Amen, this is what the Lord showed me during the first part of the pandemic, and not to many people touch this topics let alone the scriptures. In the spirit we are all equal, but the Bible is the Bible, I understand that God has given men and women a role.
Pastor Costi, thank you so much for this teaching. I thoroughly enjoyed it and agree. May I have a copy of your position paper, please?
Hi Elaine! Please email info@redeemeraz.org and ask for a copy of Pastor Costi's position paper on Women Pastors to receive this.
I always wanted to be a pastor but I never felt sure enough if that was right or wrong, church nowadays either don’t talk about it to avoid conflict or they say different things it’s ok or it’s not. Seems like the church is divided. But now that I’ve grown close to my king; Jesus, I won’t ever be comfortable considering that. Desire it? I do still desire to be a pastor but I just couldn’t reconcile that agains such a clear no from the apostle Paul. So I won’t ever do that, I may not fully understand but i know that more important than be not understanding why is that I’m focused on Christ loving God and loving others; making disciples sharing my testimony not getting caught up in what feels fair and what doesn’t: Paul was led by the Holy Spirit and obeying his words is tantamount to obeying Christ’s. We just have to. Feelings don’t really matter. Being right with the Father does.
Bless you sister, I used to be a pastor I bitterly regret it. Serve The Lord where you are at. I have found such a freedom since I left this type of ministry.
I’m dealing with this issue right now in our church. The pastor in our church retired 1 year ago and they let his daughter and son in law take over instead of finding a pastor to replace him. Now the daughter has become the one that always preachers. Unfortunately her husband isn’t a strong person to lead a church. I have never felt comfortable with her preaching but my husband doesn’t see the problem. His argument is that someone had to step up because the husband is weak. I don’t agree and it still doesn’t make it right in God’s eyes. It is so hard to be submissive and go to this church with him.
I try to talk about this with my church, but I get the funny looks, or they tell me to talk about something else. And nothing seems to convince them...should I give up. ? And go to a complementarian church?
I always figured that women are raised up when men fail to step up.
Thank you for this! Can I also have a copy of the position paper please? :) thank you!
Hi Lestari (: Please email info@redeemeraz.org with a request for Pastor Costi's position paper on women pastors.
Amen. I would love to see the position paper.
Hi Karen! Please email info@redeemeraz.org and ask for Costi's position paper on women pastors.
Thank you for speaking the truth. Our church lets women take part of the worship services which is so wrong by preaching
Recently read a church’s position paper that dismisses the 1 Timothy instruction as historically/contextually distinct and therefore idiosyncratic. Problem is that Paul was given direct revelation on the manner of ministry order and method for the expanding Gospel witness through establishing local churches. 1 Timothy and Titus are clear and establish the model and method. What other basis does a church have for its form and function? The “borrow from the business world” would suffice if Scripture didn’t address this - but it does.
You skipped over the section saying that the woman should be submissive and quiet. Please elaborate on those writings.
Where do I send a request for a copy of the position paper?
Hi Julie! Please email info@redeemeraz.org
Where can I please get your position paper. I am deciding between a Church that allows women pastors and one that does not.
Hi Gomer! Please email socialmedia@redeemeraz.org and we will send it over to you!
I believe what the scriptures says. Only men should be pastors.
But my church believes in women pastors.
What should I do if my church has a man pastor but he allows women to preach and be co pastors ? I’m conflicted. 😔
Amen instead of look at me look at my savior! The lord is really changing my heart about heavy makeup and flashy clothes. If I’m honest and I truly look deeper the reason I do that is so others look at me. I’m wearing lighter makeup now more simple clothes it’s not all about that anymore. Look at my king don’t look at me!
Can women read a specific scripture reading during church? Read scripture and sit down?
May I please have a copy of the paper you wrote, thank you and God bless you pastor.
Hi Arnaldo! Please email info@redeemeraz.org and ask for a copy of Pastor Costi's position paper on Women Pastors.
@@RedeemerBibleChurchGilbert thank you God bless you all.
Luke ch one and two. Who conducted the service. That's a hint.
thanks for this study pastor costi. what about the argument for junia as a woman apostle?
Our friends over at gotquestions,org have written on this topic
www.gotquestions.org/Junia-Junias-apostle.html
We hope this helps!
What about men pastors that have a wife, can she be the first lady of the church and speak/preach at times? its really only to women when we have special events. The actual pastor who is male, speaks over everyone during every sermon. I would like some clarity on this.
I've heard the excuses that people use to justify homosexual behaviour being used to justify women pastors.
That, of course, is trying to discredit what Paul said by saying he's a sinner, or it's from his pharesy culture, or similar such excuses.
Lmao
So only in the Church? Women can still spread the gospel on the internet and teach women’s Bible study? This is my understanding
I know your post is old, but Christian women can preach
the gospel to men and teach men.
It's not about the gender. It's about the Holy Spirit. I have
my essay on Deborah that explains that if you want it.
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I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae.
-excerpt Romans 16 NIV -words of Paul
@@user-iz8np3vv4iCan you copy paste that essay on Deborah please? I’d love to read it.
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Essay on Deborah, the Judge and prophetess. (Revised May 2023)
Before Paul we have her story. We don't know what Paul would have
said about her. We have to read about her first and then try to understand
Paul (if possible).
This is what the people at the beginning of Christianity had to do.
They knew the story of Deborah already.
Deborah is either a meaningless exception or an important precedent,
in the debate of whether men and women are spiritually equal.
Before beginning, it should be noted that there is no
scripture stating clearly or even hinting at,
that Deborah was God's second choice. There was no man
that rejected the call to be Judge, requiring a woman to
take that place.
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INTRODUCTION:
Before God was rejected by Israel for the rulership of men, that is, kings,
there were different 'seasons' so to speak. One of those seasons
was the time of the Judges.
...but they have rejected Me from being King over them.
Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah; and they said to him, “Behold, you have grown old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now appoint us a king to judge us like all the nations.” But the matter was displeasing in the sight of Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” And Samuel prayed to the Lord. And the Lord said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people regarding all that they say to you, because they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being King over them. Like all the deeds which they have done since the day that I brought them up from Egypt even to this day-in that they have abandoned Me and served other gods-so they are doing to you as well.
-excerpt 1 Samuel 8
A Judge at this time, was VERY different from a judge in our time.
The Judge was over the nation of Israel. But not as a man, as
King, or as a woman, as Queen, because God was not rejected as King as yet.
God ruled Israel through the Judges.
Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars?
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 KJV
Major modern English translations like the NASB use
the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people...
[PASTOR - Origin: late Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French pastour,
from Latin pastor ‘shepherd’.]
In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation
Also:
Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning, and since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel.
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verses 9 and 10 KJV -God speaking to Nathan the prophet
Finally:
All the Judges were men, except one. Deborah.
She was married, but her husband was not a Judge.
HER JUDGING AUTHORITY here:
Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the sons of Israel went up to her for judgment.
-excerpt Judges 4
Deborah judged men and had the authority to execute, as
some sins in the Old Covenant, such as murder, demanded the death penalty
as the punishment.
There was no appeal to Deborah's (a Judge's) verdict:
... you shall not turn aside from the word which they declare to you, to the right or the left.
If a man rejected Deborah's decision, the penalty was execution:
But the person who acts insolently by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that person shall die;...
She used the Law, therefore scripture, when judging and instructing:
In accordance with the terms of the law about which they instruct you...
She had the same authority as a Levitical priest:
So you shall come to the Levitical priests or the judge...
Also of note, she judged the hardest cases in the nation.
“If a case is too difficult for you to decide, between one kind of homicide or another, between one kind of lawsuit or another, and between one kind of assault or another, that are cases of dispute in your courts, then you shall arise and go up to the place which the Lord your God chooses. So you shall come to the Levitical priests or the judge who is in office in those days, and you shall inquire of them and they will declare to you the verdict. Then you shall act in accordance with the terms of the verdict which they declare to you from that place which the Lord chooses; and you shall be careful to act in accordance with everything that they instruct you to do. In accordance with the terms of the law about which they instruct you, and in accordance with the verdict which they tell you, you shall act; you shall not turn aside from the word which they declare to you, to the right or the left. But the person who acts insolently by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that person shall die; so you shall eliminate the evil from Israel.
-excerpt Deuteronomy 17
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THE REASON GOD SENT HER here:
...the Lord was moved to pity...
And when the Lord raised up judges for them, the Lord was with the judge and saved them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the Lord was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who tormented and oppressed them.
-excerpt Judges 2
The sending of a Judge meant God was showing mercy to His people.
It wasn't a judgment against them.
Since Deborah was a woman, this scripture is sometimes used
in error to describe her, in our time:
My people! Their oppressors treat them violently,
And women rule over them.
My people! Those who guide you lead you astray
And confuse the direction of your paths.
-excerpt Isaiah 3
They are taking the prophetess Deborah and comparing her to
Jezebel who murdered prophets.
Has it not been reported to my master what I did when Jezebel killed the prophets of the Lord, that I hid a hundred prophets of the Lord...
-excerpt 1 Kings 18
When a Judge died, THEN people were led astray.
But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways.
-excerpt Judges 2
THE AUTHORITY SHE HAD OVER THE COMMANDER OF THE ARMY here:
Now she sent word and summoned Barak...
She gave the order for the battle to begin that Israel won.
Then Deborah said to Barak, “Arise! For this is the day on which the Lord has handed Sisera over to you...
Before the battle began she prophesied that a woman
would kill Sisera (the enemy commander). This happened,
as Jael, a woman not part of the battle, killed Sisera.
She said, “I will certainly go with you; however, the fame shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.”
And:
But Jael, Heber’s wife, took a tent peg and a hammer in her hand, and went secretly to him and drove the peg into his temple, and it went through into the ground; for he was sound asleep and exhausted. So he died. And behold, while Barak was pursuing Sisera, Jael came out to meet him and said to him, “Come, and I will show you the man whom you are seeking.” So he entered with her, and behold, Sisera was lying dead with the tent peg in his temple.
So what were the results of this battle?
And the Lord routed Sisera and all his chariots and all his army with the edge of the sword before Barak; and Sisera got down from his chariot and fled on foot. But Barak pursued the chariots and the army as far as Harosheth-hagoyim, and all the army of Sisera fell by the edge of the sword; not even one was left.
Also:
So God subdued Jabin the king of Canaan on that day before the sons of Israel. And the hand of the sons of Israel pressed harder and harder upon Jabin the king of Canaan, until they had eliminated Jabin the king of Canaan.
-excerpts Judges 4
In Judges 5, most of the chapter is Deborah and Barak
singing praises to God. The song lyrics are there.
Final sentence of Judges 5:
And the land was at rest for forty years.
Obviously a great outcome.
EXPLANATION OF GOD USING DEBORAH here:
Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth...
Prophets and prophetesses are anointed with the
Holy Spirit as we know.
The explanation of God using Deborah to judge men
and being over the army is here:
An anointing of the Holy Spirit is the anointing of a powerful masculine being. That anointing eclipses gender.
FINAL THOUGHTS here:
A woman anointed with the Holy Spirit can serve in any capacity
in our time. Whatever valid title/position there is.
To oppose this, is to oppose the Holy Spirit. The same Holy Spirit
that was upon Deborah the prophetess and Judge. Deborah, the
woman that "saved them from the hand of their enemies" by
God's will.
@@user-iz8np3vv4i thank you so much
"Can Women be Pastors?"
Well they can they can call themselves any thing they wish. But, I believe, it will NEVER be condoned by Jesus (who is God Almighty). Oh indeed. Note the many proofs, in the following:
Jacob had 13 children: 12 sons and one daughter (Dinah). And Jesus told Jacob; that his 12 son's names (Why not Dinah?); would be forever sacred, as the "12 Tribes of Israel". Oh indeed.
Fast forward to when "God" was manifested (on earth) in the flesh (Jesus); and He picked 12 "Disciples". Note: Not one of them was a woman. Why? Note this: Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme...
...Now why in the pluperfect hallelujah, did Jesus use the word "men". Why didn't He say "men and women"? Huh?
Please read: 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh (Jesus), justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Now...Fast forward to Revelation and it is talking about the "Tribal" leader's names. And there was not one single female in there. Why?
Further; EVERY single book in the bible was written by men. Why? Also...show me a single female true "leader" in the bible. Plus, there is not a "chosen" prophet that was a female. Why not?
Note: there were two females that called themselves prophets ("Huldah and Deborah") in the bible. But my considered opinion is; Jesus did not choose them.
Finally: Revelation 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Do you suppose, that "Joyce Myers", is that "Jezebel"? I do NOT know. But I tell you this: If it turned out to be true, it would not surprise me one iota!
And on and on and on.
I rest my case. Could I be wrong? ABSOLUTELY Yes!. But this applies to all others, that also could be wrong.
In any case, Please Pray and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. Praise His Holy Name. AMEN!
GOD dont call women to preach, read the Bible and you will no the truth.
LOL….so ‘women are weaker than men, hey that’s just science!’ Oh my God….talk to my wife then get back to me…….