Sony FX30 vs Sony A7iii || WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY!!
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0:00 Intro
0:35 Is A7III still Relevant?
0:50 My Experience
1:06 What We Will Cover
1:21 8 Bit Vs 10 Bit
2:14 Low Light
2:47 Similarities
3:09 Memory Budget?
4:44 Ports
4:53 Displays
5:13 Sensor
5:20 Frame Rates and Resolution
6:35 Over Heating
7:12 Mounting Points
7:39 EVF
8:00 Price
8:10 Weight
8:26 Sizes
8:38 Photography
9:10 Autofocus
10:02 Picture Profiles
10:25 When I use the A7iii
11:56 What’s Next for the A7iii
12:20 My Suggestion
12:38 Buyer Beware!
13:20 Final Question
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Here is a video on my FX30 Cinema Rig Breakdown and Parts list - th-cam.com/video/YgYyOPnhjVc/w-d-xo.html
I just saw it, thank you very much
Thank you for this video! I am considering a shoot with an FX30 and the A7III, which will include some double-cam interviews. What settings do you suggest to grade the two images uniformly the easiest way? Thank you!
Great video just plz need a video on ZVe10 with 16mm vs 11mm sony lens .i would really Like to have a side by side comparison..Good Luck
That's a great idea. I will have to put that on the schedule. Thank you so much.
so the FX30 doesnt take regular 300MB/s SD cards? only CF express? hmm....I have used regular SD cards with my a6400 in 4k-I don't use heavy codecs...if I connect an external monitor to the FX30 and press record, does the video signal stay on for BOTH the external monitor and the camera's LCD? with my a6400 the LCD goes to black while keeping menu info on screen...thanks
Hey hey, Great video! My A cam is an A7sIII and B cam is the A7III, I do notice color differences, How do you go about matching their colors ? Thats is my reason for wanting to switch my A7III to an FX30, to get the 422 10 bit color so that I don't have to do too much color correction between the two. what are your thoughts ? thank you
thus the fx30 still have slog2 picture profile can you still use it?
Finally found good video what explain differences between those two cameras . Thanks a lot now i know which one to buy 👌
Thanks, that’s very nice of you. Which did you choose?
Thank you great video fantastic advice!
Great review, thank you very much!
Thank you, I am glad you are getting value from my videos.
What camera and lens did you use to shoot that intro?? Love that bokeh 😍
What’s a good camera for 2k for Cinema for beginners
Thanks!!! Amazing test!
In low light situations, which one is the best camera ?
It would be nice to have a mirrorless camera with a large screen at the back, like that Samsung flop. You don’t need Android to run the camera system, adding all that unnecessary crap is most likely what made it buggy. The FX30 sounds like a great camera video camera, it would be cool to have a large screen on the back. I shoot a Nikon Z6II and wish Nikon could improve their video autofocus to be like Sony’s. Fuji’s 40MP camera is also enticing and I don’t mind an APSC camera as all my Nikons prior to the Z6 were APSC. Waiting to see what Nikon brings out before making a decision on if I will get an FX30.
since both are e mount, just curious why viltrox lenses aren't compatible with a7iii. Noob videographer here.
Very useful video - Thanks!
Thanks David, did you preorder the FX30?
why would you need 300MB/s memory card?
If you record at 600Mbps bitrate thats 75MB/s writing speed. (1MB/s = 8Mbps)
This is interesting, I’m shooting on the a7iii and I’m thinking to upgrade to the fx30 because of the 60fps 😮and the 10 bit. Maybe you can make a image comparison video between the two? And have you allready tried to record 60fps from the fx30 on the ninja v? Grtz
OK I will take that into consideration. I really appreciate the feedback and suggestion.
I could get the Sony A7iii for $1000 with the kit lens and it has 36 shutter count, should I get it?
Yes
Really simple for me...FF glass is just out of my budget (and too bulky for my case use) so that eliminates the main selling point for the A7iii. As this will be my A camera, I'll take the hit on no EVF along with all the profiles. And the price difference here in NZ is significant enough that it allows me to realistically buy one of the sirui lenses without crippling my budget.
What a great and decisive point. Yes the APSC lenses are way less storage space also
Definitely agree, full frame is too bulky, especially the massive lenses.
@@X99Zero there are many lightweight lenses such as samyang 24mm f1.8. But I believe that's still heavier than a apc s lens.
@@hasanagera today yes, but in 2018 there were not so many choices. However for travel, a zoom lense is more practical.
Isn't there any extension EVF ?
I have a a7iii and recently sold a other Sony camera and eyeing this fx30 for film reasons not photography.
what are your tips on how to color match the A7III and A7SIII? I find the color is very off between the two of em
Shoot in cine2
I've been shooting the a7iii for my A cam and for client work. However, have been considering getting the FX30 for A cam. Shooting lots of run and gun video indoors, not ideal lighting. After watching this video I'm still not sure if this is the right move...
What did you end up doing bro? I've been intending to go full freelance instead of working at an office as the video guy. Until now I always rented all the gear I needed but I wanna buy my own camera now. I always rent an A7III but I really feel tempted to buy the FX30, although I also do a lot of photography...
Would love to see a comparison between the A7c & Sony FX30. Cant decide if its worth the purchase for Car Videos Reels, Edits etc, I plan to keep using the A7c for photography. Do you think it would be worth the purchase of a Sony FX30 for video?
I do think the FX30 would serve you right. I think it’s only real negative is it’s lack of low light performance but it doesn’t sound like that would be an issue for you. Do you shoot in low light for your reels?
I would like a video on how to use sony fx30 and how to connect to gimbal crane 2
Alright, thanks for the suggestion. I'll have to look into it. Is there anything specific that you would want me to include in the video?
Would you recommend getting the tamron 17-70mm 2.8 lens for the Fx-30? I'm currently using the ZV1
Yes that would be a great all around lens. What do you normally shoot?
@@thefilmalliance I do mostly videos but would like to take pictures on the side when possible!
Do you use any settings in the Cinema 2 image profile?
Yes I customized my own setting similar to my ZV-1 s-cinetone profile. Have you seen that?
Love the comparison ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks, do you have either of these cameras and are you preordering the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance i sold my sony A7iii recently. But now iam planning to buy fx30
Im currently selling my A7iii upgrading to the Fx30 :) I can honestly say my A7iii has served me well these past few years!
More about the low light (fx30) please
Yes I agree. Did you preorder it?
IMO the A7III shuts down from overheating quite frequently when it comes to taking video.
see the way I look at this fx30 is you have brand new aps c sensor, with more featured then its bigger cousin the fx3 and you have the choice of both aps c crop lenses and full frame lenses with no compremise
Thank you so much for your insight. I can tell that you know what you are talking about. How long have you been into the craft?
What kind of clamp are you using at 7:03 on the stand?
That clip came with the control box of the light. The light is the weelyte. Link in description
@@thefilmalliance Thank you for the reply. But I can't find said link.
should I get the Fujifilm x-s10 or the A7iii used ?
where you at on this now
I have two A7iii I used for a shoot outside in NM (but not in direct sun) both were overheating like mad. This is the main reason I’m looking to change to the FX30
Aha, yes fx30 will suit you well
I currently own an A7iii and i'm thinking of picking up an FX30. I want to do more with video, and the girlfriend likes using the A7iii for photos. I'm just now trying to decide between the FX30 or going to the A7iv.
I actually will be comparing both cameras in a coming up video so stay tuned
What do you recommend for podcasts lasting
2-3 hours??
I don’t have experience with podcasts, but you should research recording limit times on any cameras you are interested in
I just wish they've update the a7iv's firmware to add shutter angle as well.
Any camera that can shoot video should have shutter angle added to it. It's just a very nice quality of life update to not have to fiddle with settings nearly as much.
Good point. I know what you mean
Beginner videographer here. What is your opinion on using FX30 for darker, cloudy, dusk, predawn nature videos in forests? Could I get enough shadow details with F1.4 or 1.8 lens using ISO2500? Is the FX3 or A7S III full frame sensor significantly different in these scenarios? Much appreciated!
You wouldn’t need to go too high with the fx30 , I filmed a music video for a rapper named choppa that use to be signed to P daddy’s label . I’m in the process of editing and he went crazy when he saw the quality.
@@boomboombaby9140 where’s the video at?
@@liceafilms He hasn’t released it yet , it will be released right before he finishes his album with asylum records.
@@boomboombaby9140 Do you mean NLE Chopper??
@@Smorfar no , young city chopper
what lens do you use for this video?
35mm f1.4
I bought the A7III for its hybrid capabilities, but in practice I use it almost exclusively for photography. So an FX30 would be a step backwards for me.
Hmm you don’t have the fx30? I was hoping to see side by side footage testing dynamic range, slow motion quality etc
Hey Darren, it’s on preorder. I will as soon as I get it
I would buy the FX30 because I am already a APS-C user with lenses but no 10-bit Sony camera. All of my cams are 8-bit. I am a videographer, not photographer. I disagree. With a lens that has a F2.0 or under, low light shots are more than doable on the FX30 - especially with its very fast sensor readout and dual ISO.
Hi I mainly shoot sports videos , would you recommend the fx30?
No the FX30 is more of a film maker’s camera, in your situation I would go with the new a6700.
@@thefilmalliance thanks ! Will be looking to return my fx30 if the 6700 releases soon
guys I have a a7siii and a7iv. should I sell my a7iv for this. I shoot weddings and have alot of power light. just bought the a7iv. I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of (get the newest thing out their). the low light worries me with the fx30. it is a nice price point though. I don't really do photos
I think that APSC crop will benefit wedding videographers like yourself. Also glass will be much cheaper. Fo you have any APSC lenses?
@@thefilmalliance yes I do have a few romantic previous a6400
@@thefilmalliance low light?
En todo el video no haz puesto una sola imagen de fx30.
Para grabar video es mas completa fx30
Used the a7iii 1 time and it over heated and it wasn't even in the hands.
Get into filmmaking? that means you need lenses as well as the body, putting you well over 2K. If you're lucky you can buy lenses from someone who doesn't need them and took great care of them.
Can I use APSC lenses on full frame? Without loosing the full frame look (even if it has to be cropped)
If you want the look of a 24mm get a 16mm if you want the look of a 85mm get a 56m. I used the 55 1.8 and 85 1.8 on my a6100 for awhile before upgrading to a7riv.
Thank you, yes everything holdmyown said
Full frame lenses on crop bodies yields reduction of field of view (50mm looks like 75mm) and f/stop. An f 2.8 will have the bokeh look of an f4.0.
I can use my APSC lenses on my a7sii full frame body as long as Super35mm is turned ON (so it does loses the point of a full frame sensor). And if I try to shoot 4k on it, which uses the whole sensor size it gives me a huge vignette on wide angle lenses. It kind of works on telephoto lenses, but still gives me a little vignette (I have used it as an aesthetics choice a couple of times). So I would say don't count on it!
I am using Sony A7m3 cam plz suggest me can I buy Sony FX30 , I am wedding Cinematographer sir small doubt for me apsc cam quality best or not than full frame camera's.Thank you.
A7m3? Do you mean a7s3? What lenses do you have?
@@thefilmalliance Sony A7iii
No mechanical Shatter in FX30
I think you're wrong when you simply assume that Fx30 is worse in low light condition because it's apsc. It's pretty misleading since you say so but you don't have the camera in your hands. Many who tested it out said otherwise. You can talk about specs in general for now and then you can talk about real performance when you see things with your own eyes.
Really? Every APSC camera I’ve ever shot with is night and day difference in low light. Where have you heard otherwise? Yes we will have to do some hands on testing. Did you preorder?
@@thefilmalliance of course, every other apsc camera doesn't have back-illuminated sensor, except the Fujifilm xh2s.
I haven't preorder it yet, I'm just waiting to know more about its "still side" and its real limit.
@@micaelamasano it's not bad in low light, it's actually good, you check out many sample vids om YT now.
@@thefilmalliance just look at the Panasonic GH5 it was a lowlight king at the time. Bigger sensor generally means better light intake, but algorithms and processing mean so much, that aps c sensors like in the gH5 were outperforming full frame sensors.
@@thefilmalliance how can you ignore low light performance highly depends on the lens we are using and it's aperture
I’ve been debating if I sell my a7iii or 7c for the fx30
I’d say do it! Do you shoot professionally or as a hobby?
@@thefilmalliance mainly hobby but professional work from time to Time nothing commercial level though. Makes no sense to have both of those to me other than having 2 lenses ready.
I’m a inspiring filmmaker who owns a lumix 85 and looking to upgrade. Should I go A7 III OR FX30
Hey Darrell I’ll have to say go with the FX 30 then you’ll have some slow motion options
Good information brother, thanks for the video. God bless you, Jesus loves you man! 🔥😊
Thank you
i used sony a7iii for daily videomaker and now i decided to upgrade to fx30 just because of 10 bit, 4k 60p/120p, cinetone & new technology. I feel like I don't really care about crop sensors. and the most important is price poin :D
Yes you and I both are on the ecosystem. Everything you said is why I’m upgrading as well. Do you have APSC glass?
@@thefilmalliance that’s what keeps me away from apsc, buying new apsc lenses? Or you just use your regular full frame lenses
Was it worth it?
Okay, definitely appreciate your detail and surely this is just a video to try and generate views, but you are comparing an Apple to a Cucumber. No one in their right mind trying wanting to do stills should consider the FX30 or any other cinema focused camera. Or are we going to doc a Sony Venice camera because it does not do photos? lol. One comment you made around 9:00 was about FX30 not being great with stills, was that well, you can do both with a hybrid, and you can bring 1 camera to a shoot. Sorry, but if you are a professional, or anyone that tries to make money from videography or photography, I sure as heck hope you have more than one camera with you when you go on a job. "Sorry Mr./Mrs. client... My camera broke and I cannot complete the job, this was a hybrid camera so I only needed one." A few years ago, before the A7IV and all of the many competitors that can do 4:2:2 10 bit, and higher frame rates, I would agree, someone would be cross shopping with the a7iii.... (if they wanted to stay in the sony eco system), but right now, this really ought to come down to... "If your budget is ABSOLUTELY $2,000, get the FX30 if you are a video shooter and get something else if you will need photos and don't have another camera." Paying $2k for an A7iii right now is kinda silly too. The price is outdated anyway, my local camera store is blowing them out for $1,300 new, body only, with the current Sony trade in promo. The a7IV is $2,200 or if you were really on a budget, get a new A7C for $1,300. (sony's trade in promo runs through nov 6).
a7iii ❤
what about a camera for traveling ? FX30 or A7C
i vote a7c
@@dalatmighty9096 thanks for quick response
Yes, that may be the winner but don’t forget about cheap APSC glass
I am a video and photographer. I like doing as much photos than video, but video is more nice to do than photos. Editing is nice, audio i like a lot. And great audio is more important than a video quality. I will buy fx30 as my A video cam. A7iii will be my hybrid cam. But i can use bought together in projects and client work. One angle interview is great already but two is more dynamic in a video. And about weddings.. i sold my gh5 because it wasnt a ideal run and gun camera.. i need assistant and my wife helsps me with the wedding gigs.. so she need good af in a camera coz she dosent have that much of experience. This is very good price.. it has this cinema look.. only if you know how to shoot and more flexibility.. but those expensive memory cards i am not interested.. so i will stay up to 4k 50p. I will rig it as a cinema camera with monitors etc.. and i can also have more flexible pricing when you have to cameras.. A cam is for higher price clients and a7iii with lower price.. so many good things in this fx30.
Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful comment. I agree with everything you said. I’m happy you thought about the expensive memory in your budgeting. Don’t worry, wait for the market to become saturated and then buy it used for $1000. Or you could rent from LensRentals. How long have you been filmmaking?
@@thefilmalliance Yeah i Will Work now only with one camera and its so much simpler. I Have filmed now For Over 3 years. I still keep visualising how great i can become and i think The journey IS just about to beging. There are More important things than a new camera and i wish on The beginning i new better. I need My own website, More lights , better shotgun microphone. Also to get The a7iii Image Look more filmic i Will buy The 16mm film lut. I started to Make a short series now of short films. Each film is its own story. First was happynes. Next one is Anger. I shoot wedding films, music videos , commercials For comoanies etc.
Why not A7c instead of A7III?
Hey Vlad that’s a great idea. I’ll have to rent one
@@thefilmalliance It could be nice! A7c have about the same price as Fx30 and better color science (over A7III) plus some autofocus improvements..
a7iii all day for me. best full frame camera in price bracket
Yes I agree, it’s a classic. How long have you owned yours?
@@thefilmalliance just over a year,been making my way up in cameras,had a Canon M50 before that
A7III
whoa.... hold up.... "Memory for the a7iii is a lot cheaper." WRONG.... DEAD WRONG. who says you have to buy CF Express cards for FX30? You Don't.... you can shoot on the FX30 with V90 cards just fine.... The correct statement would be... "Memory for both cameras can costs exactly the same, however the FX30 also accepts dual CFExpress A cards for faster read and write speeds, albeit TODAY they are more money."
this is good to know...so I can use my Sandisk 200MB/s and 300MB/s with the FX30? I have lots of those that I use with my current A6400...I don't need to shoot in the absolute highest bitrate...nope...
@@TheFandangovideoguy yep, if you have the v90 cards you can do everything except the highest uncompressed formats and S&Q in the highest formats. Regular 4k120 xavc you can do on v60 and v90 cards.
@@SlavGuns great! I would do 4k 60 for sure...but for slow mo that's all I need...in fact I would shoot 1080p 60 or 120 mostly for some broll sometimes...I like this camera...do you own it? have u used an external monitor with it? on my a6400 I use a 5" external monitor and the moment I hit record the camera's LCD goes black and I can only see the display info on the screen but no picture on the LCD-I can however see the video on the external monitor...I hope this FX30 is able to provide video signal to BOTH an external monitor (not a recorder like the Ninja V) and the camera's built in in 4k...could be very useful...maybe I should download the manual! LOL...thanks
i have fx30 and a7iii and one thing i can tell you for sure is that fx30 absolutely smokes a7iii in low light.
Ok, thank you for sharing that with us.I really appreciate that insight. What makes it better?
@@thefilmalliance I used fx30 and a7iii on wedding, and fx30 has way nicer image and less noise than a7iii and in my case the difference was massive(i used sigma 24mm 1.4 on one camera and sigma 50mm 1.4 on other camera) the fx30 had way crispier image and cleaner shadows.Fx30 was used in slog 3,4.2.0 10 bit 4k and a7iii 4k 25p in cine 4
i thinkin im thinking that im thinking that i want to think that im thinking for that the im thinking i want the fx30
Hahaha, thats too deep for me to follow. So do you want it or not:)?
Your first minute and 49 seconds of the video made an inaccurate comparison between the A7iii and the FX30. To paraphrase you said, yea, you can access more colors in post with the FX30 but ultimately they will look the same. You're basically brushing off the fact that the FX30's ability of its 10-bit footage gives you more control as if it isn't that important or relevant to film production when the opposite is true. The end result of what you render out is NOT separate from the process of how much control you have over improving and altering the image you're working with.
At 5:17, you say that both the FX30 and the A7iii have the same sensor, just different sizes is disinformation of the worst kind. The FX30's sensor is BRAND NEW and based on new technology. It's not just a different size. You say that the A7iii is full frame and will have better performance in low light. That's true to a limited extent. If you try to shoot Slog3 on the A7iii you still won't have the control in post that you will have with the FX30's 10-bit. The 8-bit footage out of the A7iii will fall apart much quicker in post if you push and pull at it too hard. It does not have the same flexibility as the FX30 10-bit in post no matter what you say.
Sensor size is overrated and misunderstood. Many Hollywood film productions use high end cameras with Super 35 sensors. Which are about the same size as the APS-C, but better technology. It's funny that since the FX30 was announced, I've seen more insane comparisons between cameras that should never be compared than ever before. It comes off as a desperate attempt to get more attention. You create excellent content. But, I don't think the FX30 and A7iii are relevant comparisons.
Thank you for the honest feedback. I appreciate you helping me understand it better. Please tell me if you have decided to pickup the FX30 (with the new sensor:)
Your viewer is wrong. Because you will want to have the same frame. It is not as if you're going for a smaller cropped frame when you shoot FX30, you will step back and with more distance create the same frame and thus have less focus points for say, a face.
Oh ok, I see what you are saying. Thank you for pointing that out. Do you have the FX30?
FX6 and A7c, but I'm thinking about replacing the A7c with a FX30. Would be cool if they made an A7c II though. P.s. (I meant composition instead of frame but I think you got what I meant).
A more fairer comparison would be an A7C vs FX30. Personally, I would just save a little more and get an A7IV. If I was a pro video shooter, I would just get the A7S3 or FX3. Buy once, cry once.
I love that phrase, but once cry once haha. Can you explain why A7C is fairer comparison? Isn’t it just an upgraded a7iii?
@@thefilmalliance yeah, the A7C is an upgraded a73, so why get the A73, and it’s the same price as the FX30. But I would still just save a little longer and get the A74. I really don’t see the point in getting a crop sensor camera today, especially an expensive one, when you can get a full frame camera for about the same price or a little more. Like you said, if you get the exposure right in the camera, you really don’t need to do that much color grading.
I will only shoot 4k50 so it will be crop anyway
@@Panotaker a7iii>a7c cuz 2 card slots and ergonomics.
Guys lets vote fx30 YES OR NO
Yes
Full frame is expensive 😢
I know:(
😂 it says 4 comments but there’s only two 🤔 I guess two just deleted instead of edit! 🤦♂️ .. ✌️🤙
That’s weird haha
500gb for half day shoot? thats ridiculous, I shoot 10 hours weddings on the FX3 with 1 256gb on 4k 60fps at 100mb/s, also 8bit vs 10bit night and day difference, stop been a clown.
*FX3* . . .
I am on an Island lol
I'm selling gh5 and buying a7iii plus fx30 xD 😂
Nice
I should make a worse version of this video 😂
Hahaha Stop “Mr. 20k around the corner”. Plot twist - Mark and Joe work for Sony as secret TH-camrs and they don’t own any of these cameras
@@thefilmalliance shhhhhhhhh
@7:13 is why the FX30 is so cheap.