Most Controversial Cycling Moments 2021 | Lanterne Rouge
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- Lanterne Rouge presents his selection of the most controversial cycling moments of the 2021 season, including the Omi Opi crash on stage 1 of the Tour de France, Amstel Gold Race men and women's for different reasons, Nacer Bouhanni's suspension, Matej Mohoric' celebration and more.
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Not letting someone win shouldn't be a controversy.
Freaking not right now clothes so somebody come over front they
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"Lopez on the wife to his phone" is a legit Freudian slip.
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Omg i completely missed that😂 thank you!!
was looking for this
If Mader and Roglic had ridden together for 10km and held off the group, Mader has a beef, but Roglic was putting time into his rivals without any assistance from Mader, he owes him nothing.
True. But a smart guy would recognize that being magnanimous and having allies for later days can come in handy. I would have gone ahead and let him have it if I was in Roglic’s position (i.e., already having stage wins). There’s absolutely no requirement, but road racing is a team sport and it always helps to have friends who will help out when you need it sometimes. On the one hand, it’s not something that can really be criticized, but on the other hand, it’s just a good move sometimes to win friends and influence people.
He did just so with David Gaudu in Tour of the Basque Country, still amazes me that people think Roglic wouldnt know basic sportsmanship
@@113Yoshi Yes and it was reasonable because Gaudu helped him to win the stage race. In Paris-Nice Gino Mäder was only an "obstacle" (how Johan would pronounce it)
@@keirfarnum6811 Very true. Roglic just made himself an enemy in the peloton that day. Never expect some help from Mäder when chasing a group and defending a jersey.
Winning is everything. I would never let a simple domestique win when I could do it myself as the best rider in the peloton
A couple of things to add as controversial.
1. UCI banning supertuck!
2. Michael Schär Bidon Disqualification at Ronde van Vlaanderen... That brought the bidon discardment issue to the surface again...
3. The dutch womens tactics(or lack off) at the Olympics
4. If track is included - Frederik Rodenberg Madsen crashing into Charlie Tanfield at the Olympics in the semi's, and he whole debacle afterwards.
5. Remco's WC roadrace escapades - Or well just Remco being Remco in 2021
oh that track one is good although the rules are the catch is made when within 1 meter of someone from the opposing team. so technically denmark won before the crash even happened. the bidon dq is still up there with the dumbest shit from this year though
Cycling really is the sport that just keeps on giving! honestly sometimes I don't know to laugh, cry, rant, or welly the moggy? I'd completely forgotten about #bidongate, got my blood going again just thinking about it! all good calls there Steve
@@chriswitek9455 I think everyone can understand that it's not that smart to be throwing empty gels and candybarwrappers all over Europe during bike races. But it's just so hard to believe that they actually made the bidons part of that!
Once we all got schooled in the minor 4k pursuit track rules, it was all right that the danes where through to the final. They were the fastest, and the danes and the Italians rode an awesome final! But the dane standing over Charlie Tanfield shouting at him was just not a good look! What the hell did he say to Charlie? "I was'nt not looking where i was going, why did'nt you get out of my f..ing way?!" What an idiot!
@@PolarRed Hahaha you are right, there's is always something going on i cycling, that'll make us shake our heads!!
If we made cycling contreverse lists every year, we could just by default start with 3 letters - U C I
The Mark Padun case is a big miss too (from whatever point of view).
What about the Dutch women at the Olympics thinking they'd won, then blaming the absense of race radio.
Ohh this was a big one, shame it wasn't covered here.
That was amazing how the dutchies totally dropped the ball at the Olympics. And how that Keisenhofer took gold! That the duchies totally disrespected Kiesenhofer post-race was a pretty disgusting display of poor sportsmanship. Accept you fucked up and deal with second place FFS and congratulate the winner for outstanding tactics, guile, balls and power.
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Yeah, the way they acted to Keisenhofer afterwards was pretty uncool. It’s a sport. Show some respect for someone who did the job better. The fact that they never noticed the lack of that big red car that should have been in front of them is astounding. Kinda hard to miss that it wasn’t there. The celebration at the line can be forgiven; but they cold shoulder later just shows immaturity.
@@keirfarnum6811 exactly. And to blame 'no race radio' is just not accepting blame for your actions. No one complains at the worlds that there's no race radio. It's a poor carpenter who blames his/her tools.
@@johnandrews3568 Don´t say Dutchie it is disrespectfull. You´re talking about disrespect and then pull out a name like that. Show some respect aswell
Primoz “No Mercy” Roglic. I didn’t mind him taking the win personally.
Noone with intact rationale did!
Of course it’s a race; but if one wants to be smart and win the big tours, it always helps to make allies. Roglic would have been smarter to let Mader win (making sure not to let it look like he was gifting the win). Winning friends and influencing people is almost as important as winning races. All of the greatest riders rode with a sense of chivalry and it’s difficult not to notice that popularity is almost as important for being positively regarded in the history books as winning. While one cannot look down on Roglic and criticize him for doing what he’s paid to do, it makes it easier to look up to a winning rider who knows how to be magnanimous at times.
Second place == the first loser. Ha ha ha!
He won the battle but lost the war.
Especially considering how he lost the TDF in basically the final day by a margin that may have been vanquished if he'd have cared more about a few seconds here and there in the previous weeks.
After that, I could never blame him for it.
What a year it was.....only conclusion I make is....can't wait for the 2022 season to start!!!!!
It’s felt like over 3 months since season finished. Has it even been 2 ??? It’s dragging to season opener
Watch cyclocross, you won't be disappointed if yesterday's cross was anything to go by
I love alaphalippe but he definitely gets away with way too many sprint deviations that nobody ever talks about.
who cares really
@@loeffelm Some may think it's fine to do the same thing in real life. If a car cuts in front of you and you hit them, who's fault is it?
@@loeffelm YOu dont think Alaphilippe getting special treatment is something to care about? Aaaaaaalrighty
Part of that is he is French Speaking (French?) from one of those countries so at some of the biggest events that just happen to be in French speaking countries they tend to give him a break.
@@edt6488 100% yours. You're responsible for your own survival
I don't have a strong view on the Rog one but I do think that if you get beaten fairly by a person and think that's outrageous (a la Mader) then you need to reassess yourself.
In the post-race interview he was very chilled out about it and said that he overreacted and understood why Roglic would go past, I think he called him a "great champion" or something like that. Sorry I am obliged to defend Gino, he's my boy
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It’s certainly not outrageous and Roglic is under no obligation to let Mader have the stage; but from a long term tactical standpoint, gaining allies for later can be extremely helpful. Road racing is ultimately a team sport and having “teammates” that aren’t on your team could make a difference in the future. The riders who are the most well regarded in cycling history tend to be those who ride with a sense of chivalry and who are occasionally magnanimous to others in the peloton; so it pays to win friends and influence people in the sport overall. Ultimately, the peloton is a workplace and it helps to have allies and supporters and not enemies in your workplace. If I were in Roglic’s shoes (already having stage wins), I would have let him have it. Not because he should, but because could (in a sense, “gifting” a stage shows power too; but in a way that is helpful in gaining allies. It can actually help further a sense of dominance more than actually beating someone directly).
@@keirfarnum6811 Future allies like the Movistar train in Vuelta 2020 which helped Roglic to pace back Carapaz (who betrayed Movistar)
Karma's gonna get you. Rog experienced that only one day later.
About roglic taking the 30 meter win: you gotta realise, when there are sponsors supporting you to win and represent the company, you should be winning. Secondly, I think it's poor sportsmanship to allow anything less than a natural result - that is, it's an insult to your opponents ability to let them win. By getting beaten, the rider will strive to get better; that's how sports work.
Even though that principle is essentially ubiquitously held throughout other sports, it's a minority position in pro road cycling - at least in the absolute sense. The multiple prizes on offer in stage races in particular lend themselves to 'conspiring' amongst the riders. Negotiating and trading favours have been a part of road cycling's culture since the start.
@@Catcrumbs yeah I see that but when you have a few seconds to make the decision to gift the win at the tdf, I don't think that side of the rider shines.
@@TheMASDrummer I was thinking the same thing, If i was riding the tdf i wouldnt let someone else win. I also wouldnt want to be gifted a win.
I absolutely agree. I would never want to sit back and look at my career saying "yea and I won this stage!!! Buuuuut only because somebody else didn't feel like putting an effort in the final minute."
Could you imagine if once pro sports teams clinched the playoffs, they just stopped putting in any effort at all?
I was also nice to watch how karma got Roglic the next day. And how the bad luck stuck with him until the TdF.
Great that you did not miss the Amstel Gold controversy, that was my most controversial moment of the year. Totally agree on your view.
Nothing makes me click quicker on a video than when it's a 20 minute LR one
I'd give an honorable mention to the Cavendish temper tantrum at Stage 19 of the Tour. He lost so much goodwill there it seemed most cycling fans were totally pleased with WVA's win on the Champs Elysees.
if you owned an SL7 you would know why the pros hate them so much and kick and hit them haha
TBH, there's no reason why fans outside of the UK wouldn't have been pleased with WVA winning the Champs Elysees sprint after the mountain stage and TT wins. Cavendish already had his all time stage win record anyway ...
Not sure it was that big a deal. Yes, he looked petulant in that moment, but he apologized profusely and I doubt anyone really thinks differently about him because of it. I certainly don’t, and root for other riders and teams. Just an intense moment, nothing more.
It doesn't make me think any less of him. The riders trust their well-being - potentially their lives - to their equipment. They are entitled to expect their mechanics to perform at they same level as they do.
Nah, Cav’s cool. Just expressing his disappointment at the SL7 steerer debacle
You missed the Sam Bennett and Patrick Lefevere feud.
Great video though.
I think Remco and Joao Almeida at Giro could have been a topic in this video...a lot happened internal and there were a lot of rumours about it too
As always, a great video to watch. Thanks so much.
Great list tio. Would add Remco and Almeida's Giro escapades in there as well for good measure.
The entire quickstep Lefevre giro nonsense was great
Didn't Mohoric top off his Lance Armstrong impression by accidentally channeling Marco Pantani in the post race interview too? To be fair, he probably doesn't know who that is.
Great content once again, too bad Benchi didn't participate on this one. Lefevere comments on 2021 were also very controversial and deserved a mention, a career prize for controversial. Can't wait for the next team analysis or this kind of videos. Cheers!
I thought the no team radio snafus, especially at the olympics, would have been worthy of a mention here. Nice job as always!
Damn you should do these for every year! Great video
Van Art vs Pidcock - two 1st. places should be awarded
Great recap!
Anyway, I got some points to add ;)
The most controversial moments/affairs in cycling in 2021 for me were...
1) The UCI banning the supertuck and other "non standard" cycling positions for reasons of safety concern and harshly punishing riders (like phenomenal Richard Carapaz). Many people (including top cyclists and sports commentators) called out the double standards to hold individual riders responsible for everything and punishing them for every little transgress while the race organisers still were poorly controled and the set ups of many races (lacking barriers, wrong barriers, downhill too fast spints, cars and people coming too close) are still inadequate and dangerous.
2) During the ITT olympic race the German national trainer was filmed by a camera (and seen on live TV) screaming racist comments and insulting cyclists of colour. This resulted in a huge shit storm with many trainers, commentators and cyclists speaking against it, but the national cycling federation at first didn't take any actions. Many fans felt like they tried to wriggle out of the affair without addressing the racism problem cycling in fact has and that sparked even more controversy. At the end he was suspended, but there were still voices defending him.
3) The belgians dissapointing in the world championships althought they were considered favourites. But in my opinion it wasn't the race itself which was a disgrace but the blame game afterwards, which was constantly kept alive by both the riders and the teams as well as the fans.
4) Michi Schär being disqualified for "littering" during the Ronde van Vlaanderen. Almost all fans and fellow riders deemed this to be wrong and he gained much support, and I don't think the UCI rulemakers did come out well out of that.
5) Of course we can't miss the Dutch women's humiliation in the olympic road race! Again, it was not so much them not winning that caused controvery but how unbelieving and unprepared they reacted to their defeat, thinking they had won first. Additionally they did not display the respect toward the winner that Kiesenhofer inarguably had deserved and blamed the lack of radio communication, which in the eyes of many fans showed their hubris and lack of fair sportsmanship.
Dutch women's embarassing Olympic moment. Beaten by a solo nerdy privateer.
Great video, very interesting, a lot better than GCN showing you how to put mudguards on your 10,000€ road bike!!!
Great recap video buddy 😍
Gino Mäder won Giro d'italia stage 6 and Tour de Suisse stage 8. He even won the white jersey at the Vuelta. He is still on contract with the Bahrain team.
It seems absolutely ludicrous to me that the Amstel Gold finish line we were looking at on screen wasn't the actual finish line! What a complete waste of time and energy showing a multitude of irrelevant close ups after the event - I feel more cheated than Pidcock must have! 👿
I’ve said it before: if Alaphilippe rode for Astana or Movistar, he would be seen very differently. Not only for the deviations, but for all the head-scratching attacks. He’s a great rider, but he only gets away with the “welp, what else can I do?” because he rides for a respected team (and he’s French…).
I can’t find your reaction in any video of that omni opponent sign. Could you direct me to your video with the reaction of the court sentence you are referring to in this video
You should really make more of these
Top something stuff and TB even for old races you had the rights to. Really good video after 2 years
The deadpan jokes snuck into the commentary are gold as usual. Keep up the good stuff!
Wasn’t a joke. Gino Mader is currently living in a tent begging for jersey donations.
Most hilarious moment was Women’s Street Olympic Race, leaving dutch super stars so confused on where the lead actually is (congrats to Felix Austria)
Loved the video man.
What's up with the audio? It's difficult to understand the words clearly although there is not much reverb. Microphone issues maybe?
7:59 "On the wife, to his phone".... sorry, you've been relegated for changing your line.
These top lists are great. 2021 wasn't as controversial as I expected which is good.
Amazing stuff mate. I like the way you rate these performances.
Most exelent re-cap and great l’interdiction of caustic commentary. Love it 👌🍀
Padun not getting into TDF team was missed.
I just saw a clip of a race in norway on facebook, where 4 cyclist made a break away from the pelaton, only to get stopped with 5k to go by a bridge opening.... needless to say, the pelaton caught up within seconds. MIND BOGGELING
alltho this was apperently back in 2017
@@notreally2406 lol
Missed the Impey foul on Stannard on the last stage of Ruta Del Sol - This is by far the worst sprintng violation of 2021.
ive been waiting for this one
Great analysis and commentary.
Continually amazed that people aren't subscribed to top drawer channels like this. I'm not even a cycling fan, other than once yearly and you know what that means. It's free. I'm pretty sure it's free.
As LR stated, Mader didn't win anything after the Paris-Nice incident. I think he won a stage in Giro and Tour de Suisse.
You forgot about the war between Portugal and Belgium during the giro
A You've Been Framed (funny moments) video would be good for 2021 moments.
This is the first time I've ever had to turn subtitles on an English speaker
Roglic is a grand tour rider for a reason. He races... like Pogi
Great content as always
Totally agree with your #1. It almost feels like that was not this year because it seems like such a fable how could it be the present?
Nacer Bouhanni makes it known his hobby is boxing. So everyone thinks of him as a scrapper.
7:58 “on the wife to his phone” 😂. what a great slip up
Awesome example of gifting stages.....some nostalgia:)....that fuente de stage was amazing to watch, one the best GT's I have ever seen. He was so crafty got some similar help on motirolo I think in 2015 Giro after fighting back from a puncture, I think primoz learned because he worked great with Gaudu on penultimate stage to win Basque Country and handled that Vuelta stage with Bernal to perfection I thought. He got every ounce of effort and help before taking that incredible stage. I honestly don't think Primoz would do that in 2022 if in same circumstance genuinely. Awesome throwback example of gifting stage,, a grand tour stage to non GC threat was all it cost to set up a Grand Tour heist and win for Contador. Gracias enjoyed it all!!!!
Whats the point of racing if theres "gift wins"? Whats next participation trophies. Give me a break. Another great video from LR 👍
I don't mind that gift wins are a thing, I think it's a nice gesture. But I agree that to expect one is stupid and entitled. To expect a racer not to race in a race because you feel like you deserve the win... smh. You deserve the win if no one else can beat you.
Nice contend bro I’m big fan from srilanka 🇱🇰🇱🇰🇱🇰🇱🇰🇱🇰🇱🇰
great work, as uge. the one that's missing here for me is the women's road race at the olympics.
Thank you.......Peace
Great. Thanks 🙏
ELB should be the most hated person in all of cycling for her “tactical masterclass”
I think most hated is a little extreme… Moscon comes to mind lol. Hopefully she’ll learn from that one because it really did cost her
"She nearly Alaphilipped herself" lmao
man if you have the capacity to win the stage why not go for it, the moment roglic let other riders win when he can do it, he stops being roglic, he stops being a cyclist
Would add the Dutch melt-down/screw-up at the Olympic women's road race. Extraordinary hubris is action. Very funny too.
Good watch!
Great vid! I still think it was a huge (and terrible) call by DQS to throw all their eggs into the Remco basket and let Almeida lose a bunch of time in that freezing cold stage of the Giro
Those Flanders boys are very biased to their own. They’re kind of parochial sometimes.
Olympic women’s road race too!
Biggest controversy is LR not wearing the bucket hat for this video!
P-N, stage 3 - every person in that race should be riding for first individually or first as a team. Of course it's necessary for Primose to ride hard for first.
The fine for the crash was €1200.
haven't seen anyone talk about this but Pidcock cant throw a bike at all. He basically went backwards.
Opi-Omi vs Omi-Opi is pretty controversial
Merry Xmas LR. Are you going back Brissy for Xmas or in the snow
Am I the only sick one out here who thought "Allez Opi Omicron" this week?! LOL!
7:58 "on the wife to his phone" 😅
Lanterne Rouge with the Blvck Ceiling intro
That was great. Thanks :-)
Was just thinking I want to watch some cycling content when this came out. Was trying to watch some 90s Flèche Wallone finishes, but the quality is just so bad
What are U talking about?
Gino Mäder won stage 6th in Giro, stage 8th in Tour de Suisse and the young cyclist jersey on Vuelta, beeing fifth in the GC. He's on contract with Bahrain Victorious until the end of 2024.
You need to understand sarcasm...
@@nickmullen2830 he need to understand tonality changes
It wasn't me!
When you I think 2020 was unexpectedly good, 2021 is way better!
The most controversial moment in the video is seeing you not being a rider😁
How about Patrick Lefebvre and his misogynistic comments regarding Bennett and also women's cycling in general? And Deceuninck's departure from Quick Step to Alpecin-Fenix as punishment (and Decueninck's desire to tap the women's cycling market).
Deceuninck left quickstep because they couldn’t pay enough to stay on. Soudal are replacing them in 2023
From what I gathered Deceuninck left because Lefevre wants to win a grand tour with Remco in the coming years, which would be more costly than just going for stage/day wins. Apparently Lefevre also wanted a five year sponsor deal (up untill 2025), just like last time, but the Deceuninck didn't wanted that (again).
And Levefre also goes into women's cycling from what I heard, though not under the quickstep branch but another team.
Deceuninck's CEO alluded to 'Patrick being Patrick' and then wanting to get into women's cycling. I firmly believe PL is now going to have a women's team because he HAS to not because he WANTS to. I know Soudal is coming in but that also leaves PL with only QS for 2022. Good luck with that. Regardless, PL and his asinine comments per my OP still stand as controversial.
Patrick was right. He calls a spade a spade.
Bennett complained about how bad he had it then went back to that team. It is the same as a man or woman going back to a partner who is abusive after complaining about how 'bad they had it'.
Womens cycling brings pennies back to the sponsors. All my gf's on social media make WAY more than the top paid female riders do.
@@durianriders so you support misogyny... well done.
I was there on the line in the amstel gold race and still think they did pidcock ,and it schould have been called a draw
"Honorable Alberto Contador" that's hilarious.
Hey LR, is there sth wrong with the microphone settings? It sounds kinda suppressed/as if there some kind of noise reduction applied. Makes it sound a bit artificial. Maybe sth you'd want to change :)
Are you talking about his Australian accent? 😜 (no insult implied, I love his content!)
Was Primoz chasing Mader or dropping Schachmann? Can't blame him AT ALL for trying for seconds
Lopez did stop by himself and sat in the team car stating he wouldn’t continue. Stated in some podcasts & Twitter
Roglic did what he is meant to do: take wins. If it was a teammate sure let him win. But if it is from another team, no mercy. The only exception is if there is already a friendly relation between the riders or such.
The response to Bouhanni was fine, the response to the later incidents was just lacking/non-existent. Honestly this is just a problem with the UCI, sometimes acting really harshly and other times just not. And especially with for example Alaphilippe I wouldn't be surprised they just don't want to do anything to the world champion unless it just can't be ignored.
Lopez was at fault. It just makes sense to tell him to stop pacing. His pacing didn't achieve anthing but blowing himself up (he was still losing time, at best he kept the gap at the same time). He could better safe his legs a bit to protect his (lower) position in the GC the next day in the ITT and drop back to a teammate/a group where others ride with/for him.
At Amstel it was to me quite clear in the end (when having looked into it). The finishline on the road likely hasn't been drawn fully perpendicular to the last stretch of road the riders need to take. The official finishphoto should be perpendicular otherwise you give riders at one end of the road an advantage. So what they do? They started at one side of the road right at the edge of the finishline (as should be done) and then just went perpendicular with the road (being maybe a few cm from the finishline at the other side of the road. Now this imo is exactly as should be done and it isn't like this 3-5cm is going to change how a rider sprints, at that speed it is just being lucky or unlucky period and this would always be the case in a photofinish.
As for Wout being told so early, I believe the radio or something said he won and he got told then he won through his ear piece (possibly just based on the very first images we could see, likely live images of the sprint), not long after you see him not being sure he won, taking quite some time untill he was officially notified.
On the finishing photo it was actually quite clear he won. When looking at the picture of the official finish photo, you can see he won by the naked eye (though you need to look really closely), so for a computer program that analyzes pixels, there is no contest.
And finally the official finish photo is always final. Only when that photo isn't distinguisable enough or there is non present (like in lower races) there is a possibility for both riders to either redo the last km or to agree to both win (I believe that is a possibility at least).
omg check slowly at 11:50 Pidcock clearly won Amstil gold race 2021!
good god that mohoric communication shows we are still right in the dark days of cycling. Omerta. No talking about drugs.
Hey which game theory video did you watch on the amstel gold womens race? Because I always wondered how a game theoretic analysis of cycling would look like.
Cant remember how in depth the discussion was, but this is the video I was referring to:
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I thought you were Jackson from MCM
2:48 I think Gino is under contract until 2024 or something like that, they've extended a few months ago
What an awesome year we had. Great Video!
Also the notable cavendish freakout at his mechanic after champs elysees
His rant was stage 19, it wasn't the champs elysses. He was pissed at himself for not following Morkov and losing the sprint after Champs Elysses.
What about Olympics women's road race?
"They announced that Bouhanni got a three month suspension" supported by your caption at 5:12 stating two months". come on mate.
And the fans still get in the way
most controversial = "beyond the results" threads on r/peloton
WHY ALLOW ANOTHER RIDER TO WIN? THIS IS NOT SPORT.
he beat me therefore it's controversial lol