No point in watching this comparison as you are using the newest and greatest Sony lens against an adapted old Canon lens which was known for being soft and mushy! what's the point. Not bothering to watch any further, Bye.
They don't care about that stuff. Look at the description and all the affiliate links. They made a horrible bad comparison only to use the title to attract people. For the 15 years old lens, that just the lens they had lying around.
Would have liked to see you use the native RF 50mm 1.2 from Canon. Not that it is going to make the 20MP higher resolution, but it has been shown the RF is sharper than the EF version. Autofocus is also much better on the RF version. You really should have worked to compare the newest Canon lens and the newest Sony lens to make this more apples-to-apples, or used an older Sony.
The RF would have much better coating so it would probably handle flare and ca better as well. I have the EF 50 1.2L and I’d say it’s probably the softest L series lens in Canons line up.
6 FPS in RAW just isn't acceptable, also comparing the new G Master 50 1.2 to an OLD EF mount isn't a good comparison, get an RF 50 1.2. Biased. Infact I'm completely disregarding your entire review. Lenses also render colours differently. What a joke man. What a joke.
Sharpness and autofocus is always the camera and the lens working together. The sharpness test would have been better with a Sigma 50 art adapted to each camera and the autofocus with a native RF L lens. I do not believe that old 50 L is fast focusing at all, Older canon primes tend to be sharp in the center only, even when stopped down.
the EF 50 1.2 is less sharp and slower to focus than the RF version. it is actually less sharp than the EF 1.4 which is a 20 year old design compared to the current generation canon and sony
@@TheSlantedLens They were asking to have you use the RF mount 1.2 versus the EF 1.2, both Canon lenses. Putting a 15-year-old design lens against the latest and greatest Sony seems a bit odd.
@@TheSlantedLens This doesn't really solve the problem here. Your comparisons are naturally going to favor the better corrected and more modern Sony over the older EF 50 f1.2 due to better AF technology and lens correction. The comparison really needed to feature the top end native mount 50s against each other to be a more fair comparison if you were going to feature the Sony 1.2. Both the RF and FE 50 f1.2's are much, much better corrected and faster/more accurate than the old EF design. This is objective and a fair criticism of the video.
It almost feels like you're trying to make up for your A1 vs R5 comparison by using a less ideal lens for Canon this time. I guess we can call it even now and hope that in your next comparison you'll match the lenses more wisely...
Canon RF 50/1.2 is much better in terms of focusing speed and sharpness. EF 50/1.2 is a great lens and probably my favorite one, but it's pretty old and cannot compete against modern glass in technical tests.
@@TheSlantedLens it sure looks like you purposely made the Canon look bad, each side by side you obviously cropped in more on the Canon than the Sony to make the Sony look better. Sure reminds me of all those old magazine before and after pics lmao. Lost quiet a bit of respect for you on this video. What does Jarred Polin call it? Oh the Sony money truck just pulled up lol. Totally un equal and trick photography comparison, whatever gets views I guess.
I really expected Sony to look like a winner but not by cheating ... You're probably the most fake tester I've seen in a long time. Not even using RF lenses is just a big mistake .... Throw this and do it again, do it right.
I really like your channel and videos, but I have to admit, I was disappointed you did not test the RF 50mm f1.2. It would provide a more relevant comparison, I would have loved to have watched. Hopefully you will consider doing another video comparing the 50 GM and 50 RF.
@@TheSlantedLens I’ve tested both those lenses on R5 and R6’s and respectfully disagree. The motors in the RF lens line and the overall lens “intelligence” is designed to be efficient in autofocus when it comes to interfacing with the camera. That’s why you had a few misses on the EF and it slightly scored less than your GM comparison. Although I can agree that EF lenses do work well with R bodies for sure, and maybe even better than on DSLr’s, it’s not appropriate to do a comparison of an adapted lens against a native lens from another camera system. On top of that, although there are aesthetic qualities between the EF and RF, that you could argue about since that’s purely subjective the technical optics of the RF are also superior to the EF version. You would have been better off comparing the EF to the RF lens within the system which would be an extremely valuable comparison but comparing the old 50 EF 1.2 adapted to a Sony 50mm f1.2 G master on an stove body is not a fair comparison and just doesn’t make sense. And I’m actually a predominantly Sony user myself but also use Canon from time to time for my shoots. So I’ve had experience with both systems.
Dude 🤔 right out of the gate you bias the tests to favor Sony, i.e., new G master lens vs an adapted Old EF lens. EVERYBODY knows the RF 50mm 1.2 blows the EF version away.
Why on earth would you not use the RF 50 1.2 on the R6? This serioulsy makes the whole comparison pretty questionable. I normally enjoy your comparisons though...
@@TheSlantedLens Are you serious??? Have you seen how much better the RF is on IQ and much faster and accurate focusing? The fact that you area trying to defend this shows a clear intentional bias
I usually like your stuff but I don't understand why would you use Canon's EF 50 f/1.2 instead of RF version. EF version is quite soft and at it's best resolves 15 megapixels on a 20 megapixel sensor, it's sharpness is 15 P-Mpix for a 20 megapixel sensor, there is a big difference in resolving power between EF and RF versions. Also, on the first comparison photo it looks to me that foreground (grass) on the Canon side was much sharper which indicates that focus on this comparison image was on two different focal points, background on the Sony and closer to foreground on the Canon. Regardless of this review flaws, Sony seems like a great deal. Thank you for putting in the effort and providing the content for us!
They don't care about that stuff. Look at the description and all the affiliate links. They made a horrible bad comparison only to use the title to attract people. For the 15 years old lens, that just the lens they had lying around.
Really unfair comparison. The RF 50mm 1.2 blows the EF version SO far out of the Water in EVERY aspect its not even funny. So quite fishy move to use the ef... but ok, in that way Sony can win more easily...
I like your reviews but as soon as you mentioned you are using the EF 50 1.2 against a brand new camera and lens set up I stopped watching as it’s not even a fair comparison lol
I think using old canon EF lens 50mm f1.2 on R6 and compare to native Sony 50mm f1.2 GM lens on Sony a7iv is utterly insulting and arrogant to Canon. It is absolutely No Common sense it get different auto focus result not using native lens. Use old Sony lens then compare. Canon does have native RF lens 50mm f1.2.
i see people are commenting that the canon was put in a disadvantage because of the lens, but looking at colors in video, canon (at least according to this video) looks much better at all iso's..
As per 90% of the comments down below its a shame the RF 50 was not used BUT both these camera are fantastic in their own right as a Canon R6 owner I absolutely love it loads of videos I made on my channel using different lenses. But I would be equally happy if I had the Sony A7 iv with Sony lenses. What a time to be alive to have all these amazing cameras at a relatively affordable prices!
This was a pretty bias comparison and a little suspicious.. since Sony has been buying out so many TH-camrs lol. You compared a Sony mirrorless lens to an old canon DSLR EF lens……. And everyone know canon has better shadow recovery than Sony while Sony has more dynamic range in the higher end…. Yet you just compared unedited images…. But obviously Sony crushes it with ISO comparisons. But the rest.. lost some trust.
The R6 will go to ISO 204,000 in video mode. I use it all the time at that speed for low-light framing of dark nightscapes. You didn’t take the time to learn to use its menus to make the proper adjustments for the comparison, which makes the video comparison suspect, if not the other tests.
You need to do this test with Rf 50 1.2 way sharper and will resolve more pixels. The gmaster is sharper than the ef plus more megapixels. Prob not super accurate and could get more clarity out of the canon.
You used the wrong lens, the Canon RF is incomparably faster than its old version. It's like comparing Spacex rockets to Sputnik. Canon EF 50mm is the release date of 2006, it is almost 15 years. I myself have used a reduction camera, both Sony and Canon, and I know that communication through the reduction ring, although original, causes slow communication and blurring when focusing, and for videos the focus speed is about 40% worse. I don't mean that it's a bad lens, it's just very, very, very, very old. The second thing is that this lens was not designed to create a video, but only to create a photo. Otherwise the dynamic range on Sony is amazing. Thanks for the video.
Hello from Mexico!! A very good comparison that clears up many doubts. You have done a good job. There's just one thing I don't quite understand. There in your dynamic range comparison, there is an aperture of f5.6 in both cameras, the sony looks clearer, when you lower the shutter speed to 1/320s, the same, sony looks better. I ask you, in those cases, WHICH IS BETTER? Put a more open aperture like 2.8 to help the dynamic range? Or does the dynamic range benefit more with slower shutter speeds? You are the expert, we await your answer
I think you are confusing the dynamic range with the exposure. The shutter doesn't affect the dynamic range and the aperture shouldn't affect the dynamic range. But it will give you the impression that it affects the dynamic range because it affects the exposure and depth of field. You will be super happy with the a7 IV or the R6 II.
Once they showed the Canon EF version I already knew the Sony would be rated as “sharper” and better colors which isn’t fair to the R6….and this coming from a Nikon Z6ii user.
@11:24 you can see that a7iv lose the ISO battle, the a7iv became full resolution @100% while the canon is still at 250%, not to mention the 50mm 1.2 classic and it still beat the a7iv in all margin. Also being 1year advance with 60p @4k Canon is dominating now.
just wanted to point out during 8 minutes on, on the ISO test at 1600, there's a red light shining on the subject, which is messing up that result. you can clearly see it shining on her neck. That is clearly what is casting that redish hue on the white paper and also probably having a slight effect on the face.
it's pretty minor but there's definitely at least some of the red light getting to her face in that shot. I took a screenshot and compared the sony 1600 shot and 3200 shot, and there's definitely a touch of redness added to the shadows of her cheeks on the 1600 shot.@@TheSlantedLens
A lot of us started out on Canon cameras, for me, it was the Canon SL3, about a year later I moved to the Canon 90D and yesterday I upgraded to mirrorless with the Canon R6. The salesmen in B&H ask me why would you even buy a Canon camera and I could not respond. The truth is, it's just unintentional brand loyalty. I, am starting to lean towards Sony, and I have until February 1st to make the switch entirely free. Great Video! Positive for Canon R6: Comes with 24-105mm lens (Super Versatile) Positive For Sony: Everything else.
I hate to tell you, but there is way more positives to Canon than a kit lens that comes with the R6. If you want the Sony, why not just buy the Sony? I personally can't stand the menus and ergonomics of any Sony I have ever used. Good luck🤷♂️.
Stick with Canon. I am like you..a loyal Canon user. This comparison is good but doesn'tdo the R6 much favor. You got to keep in mind that the a7iv is a newer camera..let's say for argument sake, Canon released a R6 mkii or an R6c the same time the a7iv came out...most of us would agree Canon would be pulling ahead in this comparison easily.
@wolftickvideos i believe it, i’ve ran through 3 different canon cameras only using kit lenses because i wasn’t going to invest much into a non mirrorless platform in this day and age moving away from the mirror realm. Now im on full frame mirrorless i dont mind spending on lenses now. Can you believe most photography apprenticeships in New York wont hire you without full frame or mirrorless now.
@@zodyking4595 That's crazy considering if the photographer is any good you couldn't tell what they shot with. I have about 8 different bodies and I feel good about producing great results with all 8. On the flip side, I have also failed to get the results I was looking for on all of them before. It is all about knowing your equipment and lighting really. How is that R6 working out for you?
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS its a much better camera than what i had previously, performing better in lowlight, less noise overall. I do video and photo so I really needed a well versed camera. The EOS 90D did well on the photography side of things but if you want to know what noise is flip it to video lol.
I would like to see the Panasonic S5 compared here! It's seems to almost always Nikon & Sony? There are others that could be compared in this range! The S5 is as good or better other than AF only in Video mode, and doesn't shoot 4K 120fps. Otherwise, feature for feature, the Panasonic blows both these cameras away including low-light. I think the S5 is a superior Hybrid camera for about 5600 less that the A7 IV body! You can buy the Panasonic S5 in a kit with the S 20-60mm f/4 for the near the same price.
Nikon isn't really good in the Video world, Their Dynamic range is lousy in lowlight and the Autofocus is crap not mention the N-Log is not that good. Canon & Sony is what dominates the Video world, Panasonic is really good too but I don't know why they won't improve their AF System, if they do I am switching to Panasonic directly. Good Color Science, Decent Lowlight Performance, cheaper, the IBIS is great, ALL-I Format, 10bit capabilities, no overheating, unlimited recording time, basically a very well rounded camera, if AF is as fast as the R6, Panasonic would blow Canon and Sony out of the abyss in the video world if such improve AF Systems happens.
The dynamic range in those backlit images is fantastic on the Sony. I've always been a Canon person, but I haven't bought a Canon since I stopped doing weddings - the overly-red images made too many headaches for me. Haven't been able to pull the trigger on Sony yet, but those backlit images were extremely impressive on the Sony!
@@TheSlantedLens check out Christopher Frost he compared the EF to the RF and the RF lens is way sharper. He is a professional lens tester should subscribe
How about test shots of the Sony a7iv 4k crop 60fps with Sony 16-55 f2.8 lens? The new Tamron aps-c Zoom lenses and the Sigma new aps-c Zoom lenses. Also, do several similar tests with Fuji aps-c prime lenses for Sony e-mount: Fuji 16mm f1.4; Sigma 19mm f/2.8; Sigma 30mm f/1.4; Sigma 56mm f/1.4.
@@TheSlantedLens No ... Not at all ... But it is well in class with what you just showed here. Very bad of you not to use RF lenses ... Because you are not a beginner after all? So you must have done this consciously. Which just looks super ugly and colored. And why did you not set them up and film with both at the same time. .. you have managed to get everything sloppy ... redo and do the right thing. Or do you want to make another weird video? Then you can get an adapter for Sony and use Canon EF lenses on it as well.
Hi, congratulations for the very interesting video. I'd like to ask you a question. For me the stabilization of a camera is very important because I make all my 4K documentaries around the world freehand, without tripods and without stadyshot. I DON'T take stills. If I had to buy the Sony A7 IV and the Sony FE 24-105mm f / 4 G OSS, could the two stabilizations, both of the camera and that of the lens, work together and in synergy? Do you think the Sony A7 IV with Sony FE 24-105mm f / 4 G OSS might be the right camera for me or is it better that I look to another camera with better stabilization? Thank you very much
If you are doing strictly video you might be happier with the Sony a7S III: bhpho.to/3ExLfN1 And the Sony FE 24-105 F/4 should work great with that. I do however love shallower depth of field so you might want to consider the Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 although it is heavier and larger.
I am having a hard time debating whether or not to get the canon R6 Mark II or to get the Sony A7CII. I shoot some portrait photography but lately I have been shooting photo and video of my 12 year olds basketball team. which one would you say is better for this? I currently have a Canon 5D Mark III. I can't really find any review videos comparing the two cameras. Thank you for your help.
I think using old canon EF lens 50mm f1.2 on R6 and compare to native Sony 50mm f1.2 GM lens on Sony a7iv is utterly insulting and arrogant to Canon. It is absolutely Common sense it get different auto focus result not using native lens. Use old Sony lens then compare.
I don't get it. I can't get past the minute mark if the entire premise of your comparison is that flawed. Should've rented the RF glass, but oh well, guess I'll watch someone else.
Got news for you no semi-pro or pro is watching your review of semi-pro/pro cameras. They already know what you know and also know what they need. Anyone else buying either without a comprehensive knowledge of photography risks the camera becoming a closet queen which will show up on eBay or FB marketplace down the road with
Great review. My experience as a videographer is that the A74 will overheat in some circumstances. I use a couple of A7s3 as my main cameras, and had an A73 as a 3rd back up option. I bought the A74 to replace my A73 - unfortunately we've had this camera overheat whilst shooting video during weddings, something we've never experienced with the A73 or of course the A7s3. So we sold the A74 and held onto the A73 as our 3rd camera as its never over heated. If video is your main thing, just spend the extra money and get the A7s3.
I am eyeing the A7s3 but would rely semi-heavily on it for photography as much as videography. Do you have a personal opinion on using a 12mp camera as a primary for stills?
I specialise in video, so I'm probably not the best person to ask regarding stills. Once upon a time 12mp was plenty big for photos, but these days it seems rather small doesn't it. I would imagine that for most applications 12mb is fine, but if you're doing corporate work that requires heavy cropping or the requirement for very large photos, then I'd stick with the A74 instead of the A7s3. - having said that, you can get amazing photos on the A7s3, and in low light you'll even get a cleaner photo thatn the A74.@@86london
Hello The Slanted Lens. Thanks for your video. A lot of people have seen your video and some are already "complaining" that the jpeg colors from the Sony are terrible. May I ask what is your opinion on that and did you or did you not set up or adjust any of the jpeg settings from the Sony? Or is the Sony jpeg output really that bad? Could it be the lenses you had on?
Very good review. Thank you. However, it would have helped me when you were describing ISO stills differences that you use the camera name when describing your opinion. I didn't know if you were talking about the Sony or the Canon.
I seen a lot of reviews on a lot of different things but man is this one of the top ones. So much depth into each test … I love how it’s a very fair comparison and I appreciate the amount of time that it took to do all of these test
I did this test vs the A9 having the subject running towards the camera and the R6 was just a good. The difference? I didn't crippled the R6 with a super old lens. Shame on this channel
*I think in 3 Years, when Canon has some more native lenses I need, I might buy a successor to the Canon R5* *I will NOT buy a camera* when I already know I'd have to waste money on an adapter, just to mount OLD DSLR lenses that are expensive and heavier and bigger than they need to be for mirrorless... Its like spending a ton of money on things you really don't even want, because you have no choice...
Would you recommend the Sony A7IV or the Canon R6 for Astrophotography (and low-light shooting in general)? I read that the lower MP Canon R6 (20MP) is better for low light and astro shooting because it has fewer and bigger pixels, therefore producing less noise, compared to the 33MP Sony A7IV. Then again, I read that the A7IV is advantageous in low-light as it has a back-illuminated sensor, whereas the R6 doesn't. Which would you recommend?
If he redo the review with native RF lens i think Sony A7 IV still wins overall. Dynamic Range and Resolution. Similar price ill go with Sony this time and there's some great third party value lenses.
@@mbismbismb You sound like you just read specs and have never used either one. The R5 is clearly inferior to the A1 as a pro camera and that’s not saying the R5 is not good. Just say you don’t like Sony cameras in general.
I think using old canon EF lens 50mm f1.2 on R6 and compare to native Sony 50mm f1.2 GM lens on Sony a7iv is utterly insulting and arrogant to Canon. It is absolutely Common sense it get different auto focus result not using native lens. Use old Sony lens then compare.
All these people whining about the EF instead of the RF lens…actually the EF is nicer in some ways…the RF is overly sharp in comparison and has less pleasing bokeh from other reviews I have watched on the subject….but yes the RF lens is a touch faster than the EF in focusing speed. I was on the fence for a few months about which camera I wanted- canon vs. Sony…but the deciding factor is the lens eco system is wayyy more affordable AND you have more interesting choices from Sony Zeiss and or G master: Character vs. clinical perfection…Canon it’s clinical EXPENSIVE perfection or clunky cheap all made by Canon kinda boring imho.
Interestingly enough. A good friend who shoots wedding feels like the EF is much more pleasing and romantic for weddings. It just depends on what you want.
This is absolutely not a great review… if you’re going to compare competing products at least try to understand the latest technologies available for both products. Using a 30+ year old lens when there is a newer version for that Mount is mindless
I’m not going to mention the adapted ef lens you used for this comparison. What’s up with your dynamic range test? You realize you actually have to lift the exposure in post (adjust shadows, reduce highlights etc) to test dynamic range, right?!
Sorry if I also ask you another question because I have great trust you and your professionalism. What variable ND filter would you put on the Sony SEL 24-105mm f / 4 G OSS 77mm zoom lens? I would like one that decreases the definition of the clip as little as possible. I'd like to know the brand and dimension of the VND filter. My budget is max 150 euros. THANKS
I think in that price range Tiffen makes a good variable ND filter. You might want to check out our video about ND filters. I just picked up a Nisi filter that I will be testing soon. th-cam.com/video/XPvjIYLzW4c/w-d-xo.html
I guess my eyes are not as good as they once were, but I like the JPEG images of the R6 better. They seemed more color rich and more pleasing. I know the Canon R6 is an amazing camera. As a Canon user I would purchase it if it had 33 megapixels. I am disappointed with Canon's offering in my price range. The need a Canon Rii and/or increase the sensor size in the R6. I am seriously considering the Sony a7 iv with an adaptor.
Hello sir thanks for this video❤️❤️❤️❤️ I do have an r6 should i switch to a74 or its almost the same? I shoot video mostly not long videos maximum 5 min 😊
They are very similar. And if you already have Canon lenses it might not be worth it to switch. It really is a personal decision. Try renting the a7 IV and see how you like it.
Hi i was wondering where did you set the brightness in imac? How many squares from left to right? Struggling to set it right . Ps nice job with those videos
Should have made the test with the 50mm RF 1,2L. 20-33 Mpixels no match in resolution/detail. I don't think comparing Sony's new FE 1.2 vs the ancient EF50mm 1.2L makes much sense anyway.
So, I noticed the EF lens and not the RF 50mm but, from that aside, I will tell you that I am not very happy with the R6 so far, I was very optimistic but…. The dynamic range is lacking a bit, specially for landscapes (not a landscape camera for me so far) the R5 has more pixels but, to my eyes, I don’t see much difference in quality unless it’s used with different lens. I will have to make a new video to update my findings on the R6. Your videos are always well made and love your explanations.
Sony moneytrack was visiting, I guess. Not only would the RF LENSE produce better images but also it would be a comparison between similar products. Hope the truck unloaded enough MO.
I am going to start vloging + . And confused which camera is better ? I tried to buy canan 80d ! They told me its not good ? Then 90d they told me there is better . Sony also zv 2 -10 ? Which one is better recoding vidoes and pic ? Thank you
Jay P, Thanks for sharing this helpful video. I'm ready to go mirrorless and non-professional video-ing with the about-to-be-bought Sony a7 IV (no existing investment in lens worth worrying about). Please suggest the Tamron lens I will want for Vlogging and indoor video green screen use. Maybe the 24-70 you list below?? I have no video experience yet but I hear wide-angle is best?? I like zooms for flexibility. My home studio is about 12x12'. Do you still like this from your list: Sennheiser G4 Wireless Lav? Your experience is helpful and appreciated!
@@TheSlantedLens Appreciate the response, both are on my list to purchase now. Thanks. PS- Found your Basic Videography for Photographers to be very helpful, learned a lot, and enjoyed it!
Color is definitely better on canon. During the iso test, you had way more color in the red, blue, and magenta. The vibrant but natural canon look. Sony was more washed but way sharper. A typical trait of sony imagery.
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Why would you compare a brand new Sony native mirrorless lens to an ancient, subpar adapted lens on the Canon. The new RF 50 is soooo much sharper.
We will have to test it out.
I can’t believe I’m agreeing with @77dris.
its true why the ef 50 1.2? lol
I'm in the Sony system and I definitely agree.
yup i agree
Come on dude get real. You needed to use the RF 50mm f1.2L NOT that older EF lens. What are you trying to pull? You proved absolutely NOTHING!
Agree. So much work for nothing, the EF is old and not sharp.
@@Sidowse you better believe it. 25 years of professional photography and having been a Sony owner that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
And yet both cameras performed quite well.
@@Sidowse the EF canon 1.2 is less sharp and slower than the EF 1.4 . The RF version is on a whole other level in both speed and resolving power.
No point in watching this comparison as you are using the newest and greatest Sony lens against an adapted old Canon lens which was known for being soft and mushy! what's the point.
Not bothering to watch any further, Bye.
Too bad. We found some great results with both cameras. And our conclusion...stay with where you have invested in glass!
is there much difference at f5.6
@@TheSlantedLens done well
@@TheSlantedLens why didn't you use old 50 1.8 for sony and RF 50 1.2 for canon ?
They don't care about that stuff. Look at the description and all the affiliate links. They made a horrible bad comparison only to use the title to attract people. For the 15 years old lens, that just the lens they had lying around.
Would have liked to see you use the native RF 50mm 1.2 from Canon. Not that it is going to make the 20MP higher resolution, but it has been shown the RF is sharper than the EF version. Autofocus is also much better on the RF version. You really should have worked to compare the newest Canon lens and the newest Sony lens to make this more apples-to-apples, or used an older Sony.
Looks as if Sony is paying his wages.
Good point it would habe been a much better and accurate comparison. It's just content as is.
The RF would have much better coating so it would probably handle flare and ca better as well. I have the EF 50 1.2L and I’d say it’s probably the softest L series lens in Canons line up.
Instantly thought the same thing.
I appreciate the work but don't understand the comparison when the selected Canon lens was released in 2006...
6 FPS in RAW just isn't acceptable, also comparing the new G Master 50 1.2 to an OLD EF mount isn't a good comparison, get an RF 50 1.2. Biased. Infact I'm completely disregarding your entire review. Lenses also render colours differently. What a joke man. What a joke.
Totally agree
There is a lot in the video to consider and worth watching.
@@TheSlantedLens There really isn't.
Canon fan big mad
@kulmmii Know what I can g free lol a difference in? 20 fps and 10.
The EF Canon 50mm f/1.2 is a 14+ year-old adapted lens, which is known that not very sharp below f 2.2. This is not a fair review.
If you watch the whole thing you will see that the Canon did quite well!
@@TheSlantedLens Maybe, but this is not a fair comparison.
Cmon, everyone knows that you used the wrong canon 50 1.2
Next time. Thanks for watching!
That was the idea lol
That its the trashier 50mm 1.2... nullifies this review from the start. Sorry.
Sony commercial is why.
Seems like you might have a bias for Sony
Sharpness and autofocus is always the camera and the lens working together. The sharpness test would have been better with a Sigma 50 art adapted to each camera and the autofocus with a native RF L lens. I do not believe that old 50 L is fast focusing at all, Older canon primes tend to be sharp in the center only, even when stopped down.
Some good things to consider. Thanks for sharing!
the EF 50 1.2 is less sharp and slower to focus than the RF version. it is actually less sharp than the EF 1.4 which is a 20 year old design compared to the current generation canon and sony
Why not using RF glass on R6 RF mount. Please don't do these comparison unless you know how to use gear to its maximum potential.
Huge problem that renders the comparison very suspect... Needed to have native lenses of comparable quality.
Our experience is that the Canon lens is a superior lens!
@@TheSlantedLens They were asking to have you use the RF mount 1.2 versus the EF 1.2, both Canon lenses. Putting a 15-year-old design lens against the latest and greatest Sony seems a bit odd.
@@TheSlantedLens This doesn't really solve the problem here. Your comparisons are naturally going to favor the better corrected and more modern Sony over the older EF 50 f1.2 due to better AF technology and lens correction. The comparison really needed to feature the top end native mount 50s against each other to be a more fair comparison if you were going to feature the Sony 1.2.
Both the RF and FE 50 f1.2's are much, much better corrected and faster/more accurate than the old EF design. This is objective and a fair criticism of the video.
@@TheSlantedLens Lots of people love the EF 50 F/1.2 with warts an all. But it is not a technically good lens.
It almost feels like you're trying to make up for your A1 vs R5 comparison by using a less ideal lens for Canon this time.
I guess we can call it even now and hope that in your next comparison you'll match the lenses more wisely...
😳😳😳😭😭😭 lol
We had no preconceived thoughts on this. Thanks for watching!
So true this guy used to be a canon shooter now a sony advocate sold his soul to sony lol
Canon RF 50/1.2 is much better in terms of focusing speed and sharpness. EF 50/1.2 is a great lens and probably my favorite one, but it's pretty old and cannot compete against modern glass in technical tests.
Good point. Thanks for sharing.
An old 50mm l lens and not the new RF glass? and a new Sony lenses hmmmm not an equal comparison.
That is a great lens! We have shot with it many times and it performs great!
@@TheSlantedLens I have a 2006 Ferrari. That’s great as well. Not as great as the 2021 version though!!!!
@@TheSlantedLens it sure looks like you purposely made the Canon look bad, each side by side you obviously cropped in more on the Canon than the Sony to make the Sony look better. Sure reminds me of all those old magazine before and after pics lmao. Lost quiet a bit of respect for you on this video. What does Jarred Polin call it? Oh the Sony money truck just pulled up lol. Totally un equal and trick photography comparison, whatever gets views I guess.
I really expected Sony to look like a winner but not by cheating ... You're probably the most fake tester I've seen in a long time. Not even using RF lenses is just a big mistake .... Throw this and do it again, do it right.
And yet the Canon performed quite well.
I really like your channel and videos, but I have to admit, I was disappointed you did not test the RF 50mm f1.2. It would provide a more relevant comparison, I would have loved to have watched. Hopefully you will consider doing another video comparing the 50 GM and 50 RF.
If you watch the whole thing you will see that the EF was not a hindrance to the Canon.
@@TheSlantedLens I’ve tested both those lenses on R5 and R6’s and respectfully disagree. The motors in the RF lens line and the overall lens “intelligence” is designed to be efficient in autofocus when it comes to interfacing with the camera. That’s why you had a few misses on the EF and it slightly scored less than your GM comparison. Although I can agree that EF lenses do work well with R bodies for sure, and maybe even better than on DSLr’s, it’s not appropriate to do a comparison of an adapted lens against a native lens from another camera system. On top of that, although there are aesthetic qualities between the EF and RF, that you could argue about since that’s purely subjective the technical optics of the RF are also superior to the EF version. You would have been better off comparing the EF to the RF lens within the system which would be an extremely valuable comparison but comparing the old 50 EF 1.2 adapted to a Sony 50mm f1.2 G master on an stove body is not a fair comparison and just doesn’t make sense. And I’m actually a predominantly Sony user myself but also use Canon from time to time for my shoots. So I’ve had experience with both systems.
@@TheSlantedLens you're a hindrance to the canon
They always do this. It has to be fair RF vs GM 1.2
Why did you use an OLD 50mm lens for the Canon? Isn't that unfair? In terms of testing sharpness+
Also this lens is notoriously soft, and a slower focuser compared to any modern lens.
We were actually impressed that it did quite well!
@@TheSlantedLens you are a sony guy
Dude 🤔 right out of the gate you bias the tests to favor Sony, i.e., new G master lens vs an adapted Old EF lens. EVERYBODY knows the RF 50mm 1.2 blows the EF version away.
Exactly. He couldn't be more obvious. Completely ridiculous
So then why did the Canon perform so well?
Why on earth would you not use the RF 50 1.2 on the R6? This serioulsy makes the whole comparison pretty questionable. I normally enjoy your comparisons though...
It is a top quality f/1.2 $2300 lens!
@@TheSlantedLens the g master is $2000, seems like a perfect comparison.
@@TheSlantedLens Are you serious??? Have you seen how much better the RF is on IQ and much faster and accurate focusing? The fact that you area trying to defend this shows a clear intentional bias
I usually like your stuff but I don't understand why would you use Canon's EF 50 f/1.2 instead of RF version. EF version is quite soft and at it's best resolves 15 megapixels on a 20 megapixel sensor, it's sharpness is 15 P-Mpix for a 20 megapixel sensor, there is a big difference in resolving power between EF and RF versions. Also, on the first comparison photo it looks to me that foreground (grass) on the Canon side was much sharper which indicates that focus on this comparison image was on two different focal points, background on the Sony and closer to foreground on the Canon. Regardless of this review flaws, Sony seems like a great deal. Thank you for putting in the effort and providing the content for us!
The Sony is a good deal. And the Canon is a great camera as well.
They don't care about that stuff. Look at the description and all the affiliate links. They made a horrible bad comparison only to use the title to attract people. For the 15 years old lens, that just the lens they had lying around.
For the ISO test the Canon definitely did better than the A7 & I'm a Sony user
Yeah, the Sony looses the color in the higher ISO.
Agreed, but your also smart for being on Sony to begin with, i just bought the R6 yesterday and considering a switch lol.
@@zodyking4595 how come? I love my R6
What video did you see? You´re crazy!
That's obvious because of the Megapixels difference
Really unfair comparison. The RF 50mm 1.2 blows the EF version SO far out of the Water in EVERY aspect its not even funny. So quite fishy move to use the ef... but ok, in that way Sony can win more easily...
There was nothing fishy about it. We are not paid by either company and we love the EF lens.
@@TheSlantedLens lol... Sure sure
@@TheSlantedLens you may love it but you're selling Sony this way :D
I like your reviews but as soon as you mentioned you are using the EF 50 1.2 against a brand new camera and lens set up I stopped watching as it’s not even a fair comparison lol
Same
I think using old canon EF lens 50mm f1.2 on R6 and compare to native Sony 50mm f1.2 GM lens on Sony a7iv is utterly insulting and arrogant to Canon. It is absolutely No Common sense it get different auto focus result not using native lens. Use old Sony lens then compare. Canon does have native RF lens 50mm f1.2.
Too bad you didn't watch the rest because you would agree with our final conclusions!
Using an old lens that was never sharp to begin with and on top of that doing that on the lower res camera. Renders all this pointless
It is interesting to see how they compare when choosing the same price point.
@@TheSlantedLens absurd excuse. Own your mistake and save your reputation
i see people are commenting that the canon was put in a disadvantage because of the lens, but looking at colors in video, canon (at least according to this video) looks much better at all iso's..
Look the same to me.
Very true. Thanks for watching!
As per 90% of the comments down below its a shame the RF 50 was not used BUT both these camera are fantastic in their own right
as a Canon R6 owner I absolutely love it loads of videos I made on my channel using different lenses.
But I would be equally happy if I had the Sony A7 iv with Sony lenses.
What a time to be alive to have all these amazing cameras at a relatively affordable prices!
Great point. We have so many great options!
This was a pretty bias comparison and a little suspicious.. since Sony has been buying out so many TH-camrs lol. You compared a Sony mirrorless lens to an old canon DSLR EF lens……. And everyone know canon has better shadow recovery than Sony while Sony has more dynamic range in the higher end…. Yet you just compared unedited images…. But obviously Sony crushes it with ISO comparisons. But the rest.. lost some trust.
Agreed 👍
We are not sponsored by Canon or Sony. If you watch to the end you will see that we are not biased.
@@TheSlantedLens not biased yet you used a super old lens that is also known to be very soft. Your actions speak way louder than your words
The R6 will go to ISO 204,000 in video mode. I use it all the time at that speed for low-light framing of dark nightscapes. You didn’t take the time to learn to use its menus to make the proper adjustments for the comparison, which makes the video comparison suspect, if not the other tests.
We can't do everything in these reviews. Not enough time. Thanks for watching!
You need to do this test with Rf 50 1.2 way sharper and will resolve more pixels. The gmaster is sharper than the ef plus more megapixels. Prob not super accurate and could get more clarity out of the canon.
Good things to consider. Thanks for sharing!
You used the wrong lens, the Canon RF is incomparably faster than its old version. It's like comparing Spacex rockets to Sputnik. Canon EF 50mm is the release date of 2006, it is almost 15 years. I myself have used a reduction camera, both Sony and Canon, and I know that communication through the reduction ring, although original, causes slow communication and blurring when focusing, and for videos the focus speed is about 40% worse. I don't mean that it's a bad lens, it's just very, very, very, very old. The second thing is that this lens was not designed to create a video, but only to create a photo. Otherwise the dynamic range on Sony is amazing. Thanks for the video.
Great points. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
The color differences between the two are noticeable . The canon is more vibrant to my eye
Thanks for sharing your point of view!
Hello from Mexico!! A very good comparison that clears up many doubts. You have done a good job. There's just one thing I don't quite understand. There in your dynamic range comparison, there is an aperture of f5.6 in both cameras, the sony looks clearer, when you lower the shutter speed to 1/320s, the same, sony looks better. I ask you, in those cases, WHICH IS BETTER? Put a more open aperture like 2.8 to help the dynamic range? Or does the dynamic range benefit more with slower shutter speeds? You are the expert, we await your answer
I think you are confusing the dynamic range with the exposure. The shutter doesn't affect the dynamic range and the aperture shouldn't affect the dynamic range. But it will give you the impression that it affects the dynamic range because it affects the exposure and depth of field. You will be super happy with the a7 IV or the R6 II.
Once they showed the Canon EF version I already knew the Sony would be rated as “sharper” and better colors which isn’t fair to the R6….and this coming from a Nikon Z6ii user.
True the RF lens is better. Yet the EF performed quite well.
Using old adapted EF lens vs a new G mount lens it's not a fair comparison.
And yet, the EF performed very well!
@11:24 you can see that a7iv lose the ISO battle, the a7iv became full resolution @100% while the canon is still at 250%, not to mention the 50mm 1.2 classic and it still beat the a7iv in all margin. Also being 1year advance with 60p @4k Canon is dominating now.
They are each great cameras.
whay not using 50 1,2 rf ??? 50L 1,2 ef is bad lens
Not a bad lens. But agree the other would have been better.
@@TheSlantedLens it is evident that 50 ef is not a harsh test may deter a potential customer from buying r6
Just sold my a7IV, as for photos the older A7r3 was so much cleaner at higher iso, I was seeing terrible noise at iso 1250..
Realy? For color science which one is better?
@@by.wakhidd canon, nikon or fuji are better colour science..
Wow, that is interesting. Thanks for sharing!
just wanted to point out during 8 minutes on, on the ISO test at 1600, there's a red light shining on the subject, which is messing up that result. you can clearly see it shining on her neck. That is clearly what is casting that redish hue on the white paper and also probably having a slight effect on the face.
That was just at 800 ISO and does not affect the tight look at her eyes and forehead.
it's pretty minor but there's definitely at least some of the red light getting to her face in that shot. I took a screenshot and compared the sony 1600 shot and 3200 shot, and there's definitely a touch of redness added to the shadows of her cheeks on the 1600 shot.@@TheSlantedLens
DUde,come up with a new video comparing the R6 with the RF version and then will be a fair comparison
Watch the full thing and you will think it is fair. Both cameras are great.
Cameras are great but you compare a 2006 lens with Sony's brand new 1.2 technology.......
He won't... he is making so sorts of excuses to justify this obvious biased "test"
A lot of us started out on Canon cameras, for me, it was the Canon SL3, about a year later I moved to the Canon 90D and yesterday I upgraded to mirrorless with the Canon R6. The salesmen in B&H ask me why would you even buy a Canon camera and I could not respond. The truth is, it's just unintentional brand loyalty. I, am starting to lean towards Sony, and I have until February 1st to make the switch entirely free. Great Video!
Positive for Canon R6: Comes with 24-105mm lens (Super Versatile)
Positive For Sony: Everything else.
I hate to tell you, but there is way more positives to Canon than a kit lens that comes with the R6. If you want the Sony, why not just buy the Sony? I personally can't stand the menus and ergonomics of any Sony I have ever used. Good luck🤷♂️.
Stick with Canon. I am like you..a loyal Canon user. This comparison is good but doesn'tdo the R6 much favor. You got to keep in mind that the a7iv is a newer camera..let's say for argument sake, Canon released a R6 mkii or an R6c the same time the a7iv came out...most of us would agree Canon would be pulling ahead in this comparison easily.
@wolftickvideos i believe it, i’ve ran through 3 different canon cameras only using kit lenses because i wasn’t going to invest much into a non mirrorless platform in this day and age moving away from the mirror realm. Now im on full frame mirrorless i dont mind spending on lenses now. Can you believe most photography apprenticeships in New York wont hire you without full frame or mirrorless now.
@@zodyking4595 That's crazy considering if the photographer is any good you couldn't tell what they shot with. I have about 8 different bodies and I feel good about producing great results with all 8. On the flip side, I have also failed to get the results I was looking for on all of them before. It is all about knowing your equipment and lighting really. How is that R6 working out for you?
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS its a much better camera than what i had previously, performing better in lowlight, less noise overall. I do video and photo so I really needed a well versed camera. The EOS 90D did well on the photography side of things but if you want to know what noise is flip it to video lol.
I would like to see the Panasonic S5 compared here! It's seems to almost always Nikon & Sony? There are others that could be compared in this range! The S5 is as good or better other than AF only in Video mode, and doesn't shoot 4K 120fps. Otherwise, feature for feature, the Panasonic blows both these cameras away including low-light. I think the S5 is a superior Hybrid camera for about 5600 less that the A7 IV body! You can buy the Panasonic S5 in a kit with the S 20-60mm f/4 for the near the same price.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing.
Nikon isn't really good in the Video world, Their Dynamic range is lousy in lowlight and the Autofocus is crap not mention the N-Log is not that good. Canon & Sony is what dominates the Video world, Panasonic is really good too but I don't know why they won't improve their AF System, if they do I am switching to Panasonic directly. Good Color Science, Decent Lowlight Performance, cheaper, the IBIS is great, ALL-I Format, 10bit capabilities, no overheating, unlimited recording time, basically a very well rounded camera, if AF is as fast as the R6, Panasonic would blow Canon and Sony out of the abyss in the video world if such improve AF Systems happens.
The dynamic range in those backlit images is fantastic on the Sony. I've always been a Canon person, but I haven't bought a Canon since I stopped doing weddings - the overly-red images made too many headaches for me. Haven't been able to pull the trigger on Sony yet, but those backlit images were extremely impressive on the Sony!
It is a hard decision between the two. Wishing you luck with your purchase!
The old EF lens is not Sharp at all. Unfair comparison
That was not the conclusion we drew. It is a great lens.
@@TheSlantedLens check out Christopher Frost he compared the EF to the RF and the RF lens is way sharper. He is a professional lens tester should subscribe
How about test shots of the Sony a7iv 4k crop 60fps with Sony 16-55 f2.8 lens? The new Tamron aps-c Zoom lenses and the Sigma new aps-c Zoom lenses. Also, do several similar tests with Fuji aps-c prime lenses for Sony e-mount: Fuji 16mm f1.4; Sigma 19mm f/2.8; Sigma 30mm f/1.4; Sigma 56mm f/1.4.
Some good suggestions. Thanks for the ideas.
Try the RF 50mm and be amazed how much better the R6 is.
That is something we would like to do.
I’m sure every comment is already saying this, but how can you do this “comparison” when the R6 has an old EF 50 1.2 adapted. C’mon.
Yet the R6 performed quite well. Thanks for watching!
Nikon Z9 has already confirmed that he has a sensor from Sony in his camera!
Not sure what that has to do with this comparison.
Like for the last 10 years or more?!
Someone is gonna have to do a tear down to reveal the IMX sensor in Z9. Just like they did with D850.
@@TheSlantedLens No ... Not at all ... But it is well in class with what you just showed here. Very bad of you not to use RF lenses ... Because you are not a beginner after all? So you must have done this consciously. Which just looks super ugly and colored. And why did you not set them up and film with both at the same time. .. you have managed to get everything sloppy ... redo and do the right thing. Or do you want to make another weird video? Then you can get an adapter for Sony and use Canon EF lenses on it as well.
Great video Jay P!
Thank you! Appreciate your support!
I think it's fair to say you should attempt another go at this with the RF 50, as well testing how their DR impacts editing.
Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Hi, congratulations for the very interesting video. I'd like to ask you a question. For me the stabilization of a camera is very important because I make all my 4K documentaries around the world freehand, without tripods and without stadyshot. I DON'T take stills. If I had to buy the Sony A7 IV and the Sony FE 24-105mm f / 4 G OSS, could the two stabilizations, both of the camera and that of the lens, work together and in synergy? Do you think the Sony A7 IV with Sony FE 24-105mm f / 4 G OSS might be the right camera for me or is it better that I look to another camera with better stabilization? Thank you very much
If you are doing strictly video you might be happier with the Sony a7S III: bhpho.to/3ExLfN1
And the Sony FE 24-105 F/4 should work great with that. I do however love shallower depth of field so you might want to consider the Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 although it is heavier and larger.
EF 50mm f1.2 soft lens even stopped down to f4
Are you talking about the video part?
@The Slanted Lens No resolution (landscape) test.
I am having a hard time debating whether or not to get the canon R6 Mark II or to get the Sony A7CII. I shoot some portrait photography but lately I have been shooting photo and video of my 12 year olds basketball team. which one would you say is better for this? I currently have a Canon 5D Mark III. I can't really find any review videos comparing the two cameras. Thank you for your help.
Poor show. How can you even think to compare those two lenses?? A dated 50mm canon through an RF mount?!?! Turned off, thumbs down. Crook.
I think using old canon EF lens 50mm f1.2 on R6 and compare to native Sony 50mm f1.2 GM lens on Sony a7iv is utterly insulting and arrogant to Canon. It is absolutely Common sense it get different auto focus result not using native lens. Use old Sony lens then compare.
You may think that, but the Canon lens is an excellent lens!
I don't get it. I can't get past the minute mark if the entire premise of your comparison is that flawed. Should've rented the RF glass, but oh well, guess I'll watch someone else.
If you watch the whole thing you will agree with our conclusions.
The sharpness would have been a much closer comparison with the newer RF 50 glass. For a 20 megapixel camera it is pretty good I gotta say!
The sharpness difference is due to JPEG sharpening, not the lens.
Totally agree. Thanks for your comment!
@@TheSlantedLens Thanks for the review though! Good take 👍
made it as far as when you mentioned the old canon lens . buy since I understand that can hurt retention rate I let it play till half the video .
The old Canon lens still holds up.
I’m a Sony shooter but I have to say you should have used the RF 50mm f1.2 for a fair comparison.
That would have been a good choice. Thanks for watching!
Got news for you no semi-pro or pro is watching your review of semi-pro/pro cameras. They already know what you know and also know what they need. Anyone else buying either without a comprehensive knowledge of photography risks the camera becoming a closet queen which will show up on eBay or FB marketplace down the road with
Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!
This test is so unfair - testing AF with terrible old Canon EF lens and dynamic range with jpegs… whaaat??? As unfair as it can get.
If you watch the whole thing you wouldn't say unfair.
Great review. My experience as a videographer is that the A74 will overheat in some circumstances. I use a couple of A7s3 as my main cameras, and had an A73 as a 3rd back up option. I bought the A74 to replace my A73 - unfortunately we've had this camera overheat whilst shooting video during weddings, something we've never experienced with the A73 or of course the A7s3. So we sold the A74 and held onto the A73 as our 3rd camera as its never over heated. If video is your main thing, just spend the extra money and get the A7s3.
That is great advice! Thanks for sharing your experience!
I am eyeing the A7s3 but would rely semi-heavily on it for photography as much as videography. Do you have a personal opinion on using a 12mp camera as a primary for stills?
Use any file or just heat at 4k.
I was shooting 10bit in 4K - so the camera was running at full capacity. @@punjabmovies4320
I specialise in video, so I'm probably not the best person to ask regarding stills. Once upon a time 12mp was plenty big for photos, but these days it seems rather small doesn't it. I would imagine that for most applications 12mb is fine, but if you're doing corporate work that requires heavy cropping or the requirement for very large photos, then I'd stick with the A74 instead of the A7s3. - having said that, you can get amazing photos on the A7s3, and in low light you'll even get a cleaner photo thatn the A74.@@86london
This Sony fanboy says both of them look great 😊
They are both great cameras!
Hello The Slanted Lens. Thanks for your video. A lot of people have seen your video and some are already "complaining" that the jpeg colors from the Sony are terrible. May I ask what is your opinion on that and did you or did you not set up or adjust any of the jpeg settings from the Sony? Or is the Sony jpeg output really that bad? Could it be the lenses you had on?
The Sony color lost it in the high ISO images. We didn't adjust anything.
lousy thoughtless comparison
If you watch to the end you would agree with my conclusions.
Very good review. Thank you. However, it would have helped me when you were describing ISO stills differences that you use the camera name when describing your opinion. I didn't know if you were talking about the Sony or the Canon.
Good point! Thanks for your feedback!
I seen a lot of reviews on a lot of different things but man is this one of the top ones. So much depth into each test … I love how it’s a very fair comparison and I appreciate the amount of time that it took to do all of these test
I appreciate that! Glad you appreciated the details!
The reds on the Sony still drive me nuts. I was hoping they would have fixed it with the new "color science"
We thought the Sony color did look improved. Canon still has great color science!
I did this test vs the A9 having the subject running towards the camera and the R6 was just a good. The difference? I didn't crippled the R6 with a super old lens. Shame on this channel
It is good to see that the Canon performed well even with an "older" lens.
@@TheSlantedLens lol there is zero valid reason to crippled the Canon. Own your mistake, man
*I think in 3 Years, when Canon has some more native lenses I need, I might buy a successor to the Canon R5*
*I will NOT buy a camera* when I already know I'd have to waste money on an adapter, just to mount OLD DSLR lenses that are expensive and heavier and bigger than they need to be for mirrorless...
Its like spending a ton of money on things you really don't even want, because you have no choice...
Good point. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Waste of a comparison
So think about the fact that you can see how they compare and in actuality they are both great so stay with your investment in lenses!
Great video ! What is you’re focal length when you filming in the studio it looks perfect 👍🏼
Focal length is 50mm. Thanks for watching!
A7M4 advantages: image quality, native lens selection, 4k30 (and below), longform recording
R6 advantages: burst rate, 4k60, LCD, IBIS
Good points! Thanks for sharing!
Would you recommend the Sony A7IV or the Canon R6 for Astrophotography (and low-light shooting in general)? I read that the lower MP Canon R6 (20MP) is better for low light and astro shooting because it has fewer and bigger pixels, therefore producing less noise, compared to the 33MP Sony A7IV. Then again, I read that the A7IV is advantageous in low-light as it has a back-illuminated sensor, whereas the R6 doesn't.
Which would you recommend?
I would definitely take the Sony A7 IV. Take a look again at the ISO test in this video again. That tells the whole story.
If he redo the review with native RF lens i think Sony A7 IV still wins overall. Dynamic Range and Resolution. Similar price ill go with Sony this time and there's some great third party value lenses.
Excellent points. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
What if this is your first camera? Which one would you buy? You didn’t say it, you assumed that people would be into one system or the other?
Tha a7 IV is better for stills. Either one for video.
This test is Ahahaaaa ))) You need to test R5 + 50 1.2 RF vs SONY A 7 IV )))
The A1 cant even beat the R5 😒
Even R6 with RF 1.2 will beat sony A iv hands down
@@mbismbismb You sound like you just read specs and have never used either one. The R5 is clearly inferior to the A1 as a pro camera and that’s not saying the R5 is not good. Just say you don’t like Sony cameras in general.
I think using old canon EF lens 50mm f1.2 on R6 and compare to native Sony 50mm f1.2 GM lens on Sony a7iv is utterly insulting and arrogant to Canon. It is absolutely Common sense it get different auto focus result not using native lens. Use old Sony lens then compare.
Think about how these two are equivalent in price so it is interesting to see what you get for the same price.
It feels like all points against the R6 are mainly linked to the use of the EF 50 not RF ...
That is a good point. Thanks for watching!
hate the back lcd on sony
It's rubbish lol
Sony LCD display absolutely Terrible and No way to use in sunny days even harder in cloudy days.
It would be nice if it had higher resolution!
All these people whining about the EF instead of the RF lens…actually the EF is nicer in some ways…the RF is overly sharp in comparison and has less pleasing bokeh from other reviews I have watched on the subject….but yes the RF lens is a touch faster than the EF in focusing speed. I was on the fence for a few months about which camera I wanted- canon vs. Sony…but the deciding factor is the lens eco system is wayyy more affordable AND you have more interesting choices from Sony Zeiss and or G master: Character vs. clinical perfection…Canon it’s clinical EXPENSIVE perfection or clunky cheap all made by Canon kinda boring imho.
Interestingly enough. A good friend who shoots wedding feels like the EF is much more pleasing and romantic for weddings. It just depends on what you want.
@@TheSlantedLens yes!
Great review! Sony is on top!
They are producing some great products! Thanks for watching!
This is absolutely not a great review… if you’re going to compare competing products at least try to understand the latest technologies available for both products. Using a 30+ year old lens when there is a newer version for that Mount is mindless
On top vs a super old lens. Hurray...
Im struggling to choose 😅 which one do you recommend that is very good to use for both videos and photo please? 🙂
They are both great. That larger megapixel is better for stills if you are making large prints from your images.
Sir sony a7c camera vs nikon z5 test
I have added that to our list!
well very best wild videography mirrorless camera....? canon r6 or Sony a74
If you mean wildlife the a74 has a larger megapixel and you can crop in more
What picture profile were you using on the sony, when comparing it to the canon?
We used a standard profile on both of them.
I’m not going to mention the adapted ef lens you used for this comparison. What’s up with your dynamic range test? You realize you actually have to lift the exposure in post (adjust shadows, reduce highlights etc) to test dynamic range, right?!
Yes, we realize that and that is what we did.
Why r6 not with rf 50 f1.2???
That would have been nice to have.
I will buy a camera.. Please nominate one of the two cameras for me
Sony A7IV OR Canon R6 Mark II
Thanks for very interesting, informative and for useful video review.
Glad it was helpful and useful for you!
Sorry if I also ask you another question because I have great trust you and your professionalism. What variable ND filter would you put on the Sony SEL 24-105mm f / 4 G OSS 77mm zoom lens? I would like one that decreases the definition of the clip as little as possible. I'd like to know the brand and dimension of the VND filter. My budget is max 150 euros. THANKS
I think in that price range Tiffen makes a good variable ND filter. You might want to check out our video about ND filters. I just picked up a Nisi filter that I will be testing soon. th-cam.com/video/XPvjIYLzW4c/w-d-xo.html
I guess my eyes are not as good as they once were, but I like the JPEG images of the R6 better. They seemed more color rich and more pleasing. I know the Canon R6 is an amazing camera. As a Canon user I would purchase it if it had 33 megapixels. I am disappointed with Canon's offering in my price range. The need a Canon Rii and/or increase the sensor size in the R6. I am seriously considering the Sony a7 iv with an adaptor.
Yeah, I do really like the Canon color science. And I agree, 20MP is a little disappointing.
@@TheSlantedLens Thank you. I recently bought a Canon EOS R because of the 30 megs. I am looking at it as a temporary solution.
warmer colors on the canon Sony looks a little green
Canon is usually warmer than Sony.
Hello sir thanks for this video❤️❤️❤️❤️ I do have an r6 should i switch to a74 or its almost the same? I shoot video mostly not long videos maximum 5 min 😊
They are very similar. And if you already have Canon lenses it might not be worth it to switch. It really is a personal decision. Try renting the a7 IV and see how you like it.
Most useful comparison I've seen between the R6 and a7IV.
Good to hear. Thank you for watching!
Hi i was wondering where did you set the brightness in imac? How many squares from left to right? Struggling to set it right .
Ps nice job with those videos
Every monitor and computer is a little different. It is best to get calibration software to calibrate your monitor. Datacolor has some great options.
Which one would make a better sports camera?
The R6 has more frames per second and an electronic shutter and is a good sports camera.
Should have made the test with the 50mm RF 1,2L. 20-33 Mpixels no match in resolution/detail. I don't think comparing Sony's new FE 1.2 vs the ancient EF50mm 1.2L makes much sense anyway.
I can see why you think that, yet the Canon Lens performed quite well!
So, I noticed the EF lens and not the RF 50mm but, from that aside, I will tell you that I am not very happy with the R6 so far, I was very optimistic but…. The dynamic range is lacking a bit, specially for landscapes (not a landscape camera for me so far) the R5 has more pixels but, to my eyes, I don’t see much difference in quality unless it’s used with different lens. I will have to make a new video to update my findings on the R6. Your videos are always well made and love your explanations.
Great to hear. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Sony moneytrack was visiting, I guess. Not only would the RF LENSE produce better images but also it would be a comparison between similar products. Hope the truck unloaded enough MO.
We don't receive any $ from Sony or Canon. We own both Sony and Canon cameras and love them both!
The canon ef 50mm f1.2 is a lens from a long time ago. Of course, the focusing ability will be lost to the new sony fe 50mm f1.2gm lens.
Yes, and it is still a great lens!
I am going to start vloging + .
And confused which camera is better ?
I tried to buy canan 80d !
They told me its not good ?
Then 90d they told me there is better .
Sony also zv 2 -10 ?
Which one is better recoding vidoes and pic ?
Thank you
Right now I am a huge fan of the a7 IV. If you prefer Canon then go with the R6.
@@TheSlantedLens thank you
Jay P, Thanks for sharing this helpful video. I'm ready to go mirrorless and non-professional video-ing with the about-to-be-bought Sony a7 IV (no existing investment in lens worth worrying about). Please suggest the Tamron lens I will want for Vlogging and indoor video green screen use. Maybe the 24-70 you list below?? I have no video experience yet but I hear wide-angle is best?? I like zooms for flexibility. My home studio is about 12x12'. Do you still like this from your list: Sennheiser G4 Wireless Lav? Your experience is helpful and appreciated!
The best lens for that camera for your purpose is the Tamron 28-75mm G2. Yes Sennheiser G4 is still a great option.
@@TheSlantedLens Appreciate the response, both are on my list to purchase now. Thanks. PS- Found your Basic Videography for Photographers to be very helpful, learned a lot, and enjoyed it!
Great review, amazing, thanks much!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Color is definitely better on canon. During the iso test, you had way more color in the red, blue, and magenta. The vibrant but natural canon look. Sony was more washed but way sharper. A typical trait of sony imagery.
I agree. The Sony did loose the color in the higher ISOs.
@The Slanted Lens Just came back to this video a year later because it was so good. I absolutely love your work brother! 👍🥂