4:23 "I was ignoring the SatNav on purpose" - now that's no way to maintain a relationship. You need to both sit down and talk this out before you let things go any further. I know she's all "Turn Left Here" and "Take the Third Exit from the Roundabout" but at the end of the day you've got to live together.
Strangely enough, after I got my first sat-nav equipped car, I used to set the destination to some far away place (like Dover) and then practice ignoring 'wimen telling me what to do', though as the sat-nav is actually a 'disembodied voice' it was probably easier than trying to ignore the wife's !
We have 2 sat nav screens in truck. every time I look at Halfords new car dat navs I am chicken how poor the resolution and how wonderfully confusing the colour scheme is. A- Z maps for me , if really lost one look at Google map and I know where to go.
11:13 Shoutout to that lorry driver giving the learner the time they needed and I think he even went right and forward a bit more to block the fiesta hahaha!
When in a driving lesson (not a legal instructor a family friend) a lorry cut me off at a round about I braked (obviously) and the “teacher” screamed at me and hit me saying I was putting him in danger by emergency stopping and not driving into the lorry wtf lol 😂
I just don't get it, I can't remember the last time I actually got held up by a driving school car, I've certainly never felt like I need to break the law to overtake one.
I remember only having done this once on a 50 mph road because the learner was cruising along at about 37. Gave as much space as I could when overtake and didn't cut back in. Otherwise yeah, quite rare to see a learner slow people down that much.
I’ve been slightly inconvenienced by a learner being below the speed limit, but I just see it like this “well, I’m definitely not getting a speeding ticket today 😂” and continue about my day. It’s not often that they’re significantly below the limit, because the instructor is usually telling them to accelerate / more gas. I’ll always give a little extra room to a learner, we were all learners at one point, and there’s a lot to take in, you don’t need the extra pressure of an impatient person hanging 6 inches off your bumper and driving erratically looking for the first overtake they can get
Yeah, I can generally gague by how they're learning how long they've been driving, but I always give all drivers a little space (tyres and tarmac, more for bigger vehicles). If I see the driver in front doing something odd I give extra room, to keep both me out of trouble and they won't feel pressured by someone tailgating. I can do this because I don't feel like I'm in a rush on the roads, I always leave enough time in case of traffic etc.
It's one of my real pet peeves on the road - drivers that drive aggresively around learners. I have overtaken learner drivers on nation speed limit roads when it was safe to do so, because they were going significantly below the speed limit, but I always make sure to give them plenty of room. It amazes me how so many drivers choose to forget that they were once the nervous, inexperienced driver in that car.
I can't remember the last time I was held up either. Most driving instructors will find somewhere quiet until the driver is confident enough to not hold people up. I've never watched any of Ashley's videos & though they were driving a little too slowly. The worst that can happen is stalling when pulling away, but most people do this once in a while.
I always give space and curtesy to learner drivers as it’s really nerve racking when learning to drive. I learned in a 7.5 ton lorry and will never forget the experience.
For sure. I learnt to drive a motorbike last year and despite it being obvious that I was a learner it was amazing how many people did stupid things or just plain got up my backside/too close to the side.
@@thefoxhat6163 Why make the inconsiderate drivers think they have even more power to bully their way through by giving them something bigger? Give them a day on a motorcycle so they spend a day from the point of view of a vulnerable road user.
@@crussell5856 There is a case for that also. My last CPC had an arctic and they placed 20 people on bicycles around the vehicle. You couldn't see a single one of them from the driver's seat. Lorry drivers are aware. I'm not so sure the cyclists are. Perhaps if the cyclists had a day out in a truck, they'd find out how dangerous it is for cyclists & where the blind spots are.
EVEN BEFORE I STARTED DRIVING LESSONS in 1988, I was told to treat everybody else as an idiot Never a truer word spoken, and all drivers probably think their "idiot magnets"
Same here. Some prick had the audacity to tell me that he was a better driver than me, and that if I took my test these days I wouldn’t pass. He was probably in his teens. I’ve been driving coaches for almost 20 years.
keith barber I’m a motorcyclist. I’m convinced that motorcycles have invisibility cloaks because the amount of people who don’t/can’t see me, on a bright green motorbike, is staggering. I also didn’t realize just how vulnerable I was until I began to ride.
William Baker some idiot tried to have a go at my grandfather like this. My grandfather was a miner for a living and drove vehicles up to 45 tons on a regular basis as part of his job. Even to this day he can still remember how to operate them.
From when i was an instructor 2003-2010 i did some training for a grocery delivery company who employed quite a few Eastern Europeans. One session the driver just stopped because he heard an emergency vehicle siren...no emergency vehicle in sight. Apparently, in his home country (cant remember which one) you MUST stop. It did generate a conversation over how to aid the progress of an emergency vehicle
I must admit about a month ago I almost hit a driving school car on the approach to a roundabout, I was too busy looking right, my tunnel vision kicked in and wasn’t expecting them to stop. Totally my fault and just as well no contact was made. Love your channel and forever learning. I remember my instructor saying “this is where the learning begins” I was arrogant at the time but years later know what he meant.
Such a good point about giving learners plenty of room. When I was learning I often would brake when there was no need to but just because I was nervous. So driving right up their bum is totally silly as you never know when they might decide to brake and the instructor can't control that.
I always give them plenty of room simply because I know what it's like to be new to the road. Crush a learner's confidence by treating them like shit when they're learning and when they pass they won't pass as confident as they could be, ensuring yet another bad driver on the roads
@@elsden722 My driving instructor once had me back off near a parking spot where someone was having trouble to reverse into that spot and he said "We are going to wait, no matter how annoyed people behind us might be." and at the end when the person had found that spot he was like "Are there any injuries? Any damage that we can report? No? Exactly. Remember that not everyone is as capable when driving how you might want them to be, so just give them room, just like we want people to keep some space around us while around a learner car for it being capable of making unexpected movements. You'll generally make up that time easily, and if you don't, you've left home late."
“You don’t have to stop”... if I were that car, I would have just kept going slow and steady until the emergency vehicle passed. There’s two lanes so vehicles should tuck into the left lane and leave the right lane for the emergency vehicle to travel in. The junction is still a little distance ahead and there’s enough clear road ahead before the junction in the left lane for traffic to continue
That last one with the car in the right lane. I'm a street cleaner on foot. And can honestly say if I'm crossing a road it doesn't matter what lane and what direction a driver indicating. I automatically assume they could be going anywhere. On May patch most streets are one way but I still need to look both ways before crossing
I have just passed my test, and I live in Huyton. These videos haven't half made me drive safer and be aware of how others drive especially seeing areas I know on these videos. Appreciate these videos, Ashley!
I drive on blue lights for the ambulance service and frequently come across folks who are unsure of what to do. When I'm in my personal car I don't automatically pull over or stop just because an emergency vehicle needs to pass. I read the road, if the opposite lane is clear for them to pass, just adjusting my speed is enough. Stopping near to islands is frustrating but magnetic cars are the worst! One pulls over so the car coming the other way waits until they are close then decides to stop, right beside the other stationary car and blocks everyone! I say to people if in doubt continue safely within the speed limit and when the road clears or a layby comes up, indicate and pull over normally. We are taught to hang back and expect mistakes. Better to get there safely than not at all.
5:10 Couldn’t agree more. As an emergency driver, please DON’T just stop without considering where and why. The number of people who stop right before an island is staggering, meaning that I have to slow to a crawl to steer around you, wasting valuable seconds. Notice us early (use the mirrors!), take time to think, then react (if it’s needed). EDIT - Emergency vehicles can legally go offside at an island, but it’s one of the most dangerous things you can do, so avoid at all costs! Islands are there to protect, and typically people don’t look for traffic coming the wrong way!
That's an interesting contrast to an earlier emergency poster who wanted to see other drivers react and preferebly pull over. Unfortunately there are too many people who can't even think for themselves when driving much less for another vehicle.
Wayne Jackson it’s always helpful to see someone react, especially in a city/town environment. A flash of the brake lights or an indicator is always appreciated, but a reaction doesn’t need to be a ‘stop’, or even a slow, where the road layout allows. In the video, you can see that the police car wants the van to pull to the near side lane, but it doesn’t, and so they undertake. Because the black car ahead had stopped, Ashley had to as well, meaning that the police car’s manoeuvring gap was decreased. Not so much an issue in this case, but close everything down a few feet (eg heavy traffic) and you start to have problems. There is certainly a time and a place for stopping for an emergency vehicle to pass, so long as it’s thought through first (eg not right next to a bloody island!). I would hate for us to become like America where EVERYONE stops and pulls over for an emergency vehicle, because it simply isn’t needed and a good amount of the time, causes more problems than it solves 😇
My personal driving philosophy: If you see or hear an emergency vehicle...then it is time to stop at the side of the road (or if necessary partly/wholly on the footpath) and remain stopped until the emergency vehicle can no longer be seen...and you have ascertained there is no other emergency vehicle closely following the first! The philosophy is you are no longer a randomly moving object and therefor no threat to the emergency vehicle. You are stationary like a lamppost...and the emergency vehicle can make it's decision where it decides to go without having to take into account your randomness. 24 years Police driver, with no unintentional crashes during pursuits...but huge frustrations with unthinking/oblivious/stupid/ moronic moving drivers.
@@teenaramsay2469 UK Highway Code says not to break any driving rules in the event of making space for emergency vehicles. So, don't mount kerbs, don't drive onto footpaths, don't creep through red traffic lights, etc. - all things that people do tend to do!
Once again I want to thank you for these videos. Instead of choosing the craziest clips to get the most views, you're bringing awareness by discussing the drivers'/riders' faults in a calm way. I especially agree with your point about never just "following the leader". I was involved in an accident a few weeks ago where two cars made an illegal left turn across the segregated cycle lane I was using, and I ended up crashing into the side of the second car. The driver told me she "thought it was allowed because the first car did it". Thankfully my injuries were minor and I recovered in a few days.
On-screen graphics are great. Also, that point about the instructor not being able to PREVENT braking is a good one. Teaching my kids, there were a few times when I yanked on the handbrake, but there was one frightening incident when my son stopped suddenly at a green light (red arrow) and I never felt more helpless, wincing and waiting to be real-ended.
I live in Walsall (England) and now red light jumping is so bad that they will keep driving across the junction if you do not start moving when your light is green, I often have to carefully move around jumpers as I cross the lights.
11:13 - I put my vote for the Fiesta being the arse of the month. Showed themselves up massively. Glad that the HGV driver had blocked the Fiesta, because I would half be sure that learner wouldn't expect the Fiesta barging past. Only the lorry patiently waiting. On a funny note it's always a classic to see that the Fiesta driver trying to take a 'shortcut' (whilst doing a really poor job at it) and ends up the last to their destination. Lost at their own game!
In response to the Emergency Vehicle clip; on a two lane road (as shown) I'd agree that the vehicle in front of you could have continued as there is plenty of room for the police car to use lane two. However, on a single lane road it's much, much more helpful to us if the vehicles giving way do come to a complete stop rather than becoming a moving obstacle at 5mph! We look for a 'positive reaction' from the vehicles in front of us (brake lights, indicators, or actually moving to the left) - it's much more hazardous if we have to proceed past someone who hasn't given us a positive indication, as we're cautious to if they've actually seen us or not (it's amazing how many drivers are totally oblivious to us).
True, but many drivers stop too early in a panic leaving those behind no room to maneuver. Not clearing junctions for example, means you must pass vehicles who will take a different route altogether. On most roads indicating positively and pulling over allows passing easily.
I'll always remember the ambulance alongside my learner in the early 80s, in a right turn only lane. The driver hit us three times trying to go ahead at the lights, then didn't stop.... they were obviously refusing to queue and trying to pass the learner. I curtailed the lesson after a cool down. Went to the ambulance station to report matters to a blind refusal of the boss to acknowledge the damage and incident. I had two witnesses. There in the wash bay around back were four staff T Cutting the side of the ambulance. Out came the old instamatic camera. Popped round the corner and dragged an old copper mate out to see. Five including the boss were prosecuted for multiple offences including criminal charges. All ambulances used to be Crown Vehicles. Good luck with suing the Queen... the driver and her (yes even then her), seemed to believe they had the same protection. They found out they didn't, the hard way. My damage was paid for out of a fund and not by an insurer.
13:50 thanks for saying this, it is the bane of professional drivers everywhere, the prevailing attitude among vulnerable road users that their actions are somehow more minor as they are, for the most part, only risking their own lives, as you say, particularly for someone who drives for a living, often as their sole source of income, hitting & potentially killing someone with their vehicle can ruin them mentally, and with the recurring campaign to somehow make vulnerable road users less legally accountable, can even jeopardise their livelyhoods.
wheres the data that this is the prevailing attitude amongst peds, cycles and motorbike riders? Most of them also drive, sorry but i don't agree its prevailing, its a dangerous minority, the same way the reckless drivers are a minority.
Having ridden with cycling clubs, I can tell you the ones without lights at night, not looking, not waiting are a problem for real cyclists too. But the fact is, bad driving by motor vehicles is the main problem on the roads. Ashley complains about how cars overtaking to turn left for example, if he rode a sports bike he'd soon see how common overtaking, then braking is, not just scissors maneuvers. This is common in the countryside into blind bends
Honestly I love your videos. They show a lot of interesting situations that everyone can learn from, not just learners. In regards to people pulling out in front of learner vehicles, you're spot on. How dangerous it is is ridiculous. And I had it myself, 8 months ago when I was learning to drive a Class 2. As you'll know, since you've taken the lessons , it's not an empty lorry, it often has a load like water on the back, to simulate a delivery of something. The number of people willing to pull out in front of a lorry, especially one with an L plate on it, with no more than 20 feet, in some cases, was incredible. And, I don't know about your experience in a Learner Wagon, but mine didn't have dual controls, because I'm obviously already a driver, so in theory, | wouldn't need someone else there to control the vehicle.
Ashley I'm never here this early for your videos - but I wanted to say thank you for the content you make. Videos like yours have made me a more aware, sensible and reasonable driver.
6:32 - as a cyclist, this really annoys me - why do so many cars think the ASL is for them and not bikes, even though there's a big picture of a bike and a solid white line around it?!? Happens all over Liverpool.
Yes it is the law and as such means that it should be obeyed but in reality, what it does is put the slowest means of transport at the front and I fail to see why a cyclist is given priority over a motor vehicle, what it does is cause a tail back and make drivers become stuck behind a red light again.
@@honestchris7472 Those areas are to save lives, the area allows cyclists to be seen. In my home city, cycle commuter average speeds are twice as fast as cars, they are the slowed form of transport. One thing to understand, when I ride a bike, I am held up for far longer by cars, than cyclists ever hold me up when I am driving, though I give them room and overtake considerately. It's not about priority, but what happens when cars and HGVs force cyclists out of taking the lane. Motorists often don't look properly, you should find it simpler when they have space and can move into position to turn, whilst you are held up by lights.
I have a question: 00:25 - Why the van should held back when he doesn't have any obstacle up front on the road? In my view the learner should held back in first place because he has an obstacle in front. What am I missing? Thank you.
With you on that pal, I was always under the impression that if there is an obstacle on my side of the road the other side has priority cause they don't have an obstacle.
That is really interesting. I had a load of abuse shouted at me by a passenger side ambulance medic once because I slowed right down but didn't actually stop. The road was a long straight road with only me and the ambulance on it. The road was 3 lanes wide and I was tight in on the left doing around 5 MPH (60 MPH road). She shouted at me as passing saying I "should stop" and calling me a name!!
I must admit that when I first got my driving license (Denmark) at 18, I was a complete w*nker the first 2-3 years myself. Despite the facts like you're in the UK and stuff works different than in Denmark, I've watched your videos through the last couple of years and your words have me constantly re-thinking any sort of situation twice and therefore often speaking to myself, saying stuff like "Is it really worth that 1 overtake mate?" or even "how would I feel if someone pulled this move on me" and I calmly take a chill so we all can go on safe. Respect on your videos Ashley. Best Regards
pleanty of cyclists ride just fine. Sadly its the vocal haters against cyclists that perperuate the myth that "cyclists are bad." You get cars who purposely stop soo close the curb's at the lights that bikes cant get pass. Cars swerve at cyclists when overtaking to knock them off (Ashley even uploaded a video of a retired cop knocking a cyclist to the ground), drivers not giving way to cyclists at junctions or roundabouts, i can go on but the point stands. And when a cyclist then defends themselves, we get the usual "see!? cyclists are a trouble!"
I need to rethink my ‘learner impatience’. 😂 seriously though, I have seen this a lot over the years. I do know that patience and road rage have risen exponentially over the last decade, if not the last 5 years mostly. The amount of swearing and gesturing that occurs now is the worst I’ve ever come across. The worst areas I see it are definitely the ‘merge in turn’ scenarios and a very high percentage of ppl do not fully understand how to proceed in these areas which causes aggro at the merge. (I have now changed my attitude to this as well thanks to all the ppl here on this channel and your videos).
@Wrecked Pluto - attitudes have changed. It’s nothing to do with how much traffic there is. Traffic doesn’t cause road rage, people and their attitudes do.
At 6.13, the lane on the left is open to use and the van is using it, there are no indications that the lane is closed and instead of all of the cars queueing in the outer lane and making a longer queue, if they use the inner lane then there would be fewer cars in the outer lane and then filter in when the cones are approached.
It is 50 years this year since I past my Motorcycle Test (you could ride @ 16 then) and 50 years next year for Car Test. I have seen especially in the last decade a steady decline in driving standards. Although retired I regularly drive 12 miles to help out at my Daughter’s Business and notice that more & more drivers in a hurry and willing to put other people’s lives in danger just to get somewhere a few seconds earlier. Overtake in and at the wrong time, going through red lights, fighting in a merge in turn, etc, etc. and arriving only a car ahead.
Hey Ashley, I wish we had driving instructors like you here in Australia. I am originally from the UK and have driven all over the world over the years. I can truthfully say the the standard of driving and the unsavoury aggression here accompanied by intense exaggeration make Australia (in my opinion) the worst drivers in the world. I preferred driving in Naples and India than here. My son has just passed his test and even he was surprised how dangerously he was taught as I have always shown him how to drive correctly and politely and never exaggerate an already dangerous situation. Keep up the good work - I'm an avid fan.
I don't get the L plate thing. Whenever I see one I try to start driving my best because I don't want to embarrass myself in front of an instructor. Not that I'm not always driving my best ;)
7:13 Question - what should the driver of the grey van have done do you think? I realise it was a private hire but if you are in a queue and somebody wants to enter the flow from the right, crossing the lane going against you how should you go about giving way? My thought is that the van was a little too far forward to do so. Ideally he would need to stop just before drawing level with the "KEEP CLEAR" area for traffic going the other way. Even though it does not apply to him it will give room for the emerging vehicle to get across and out of the other lane. This would only really be applicable if you were queuing and happened to be there, though. You should not hold up traffic behind you waiting for a gap the other way for them to get out - your point in an earlier clip about keeping traffic flowing applies. On the other hand, if the private hire driver is intent on gambling, the shop on that corner should be able to assist :)
The van is creating a huge risk by letting the private hire in! By the looks of it, the private hire wanted to get to the very far lane and letting him in might give him the idea of "it's all clear, I can go now". The van being there blocks the view to the far lane, so oncoming traffic isn't able to see the private hire and vice versa. I've seen too many crashes happen because somebody let someone else in. In my opinion the private hire should have waited to have a clear view of the lane he wants to go to or instead turn into the lane the van is in and then wait and look or even take the left turn one intersection later and circle back.
You give way if you can and it doesn't cause an issue to do so. In this situation, the private hire _should_ have emerged going Southbound on the A59, then to get to Chapel Avenue would have had to merge into the left lane, then exit the A59, all in the length of about two cars. He would have caused much less of an issue if he's emerged onto the A59 then continued Southbound for like another eight seconds to turn left into the mini street/car park, which emerges onto Chapel Avenue. It would not only have cost everyone else less time in total, but he would probably also have gotten there faster. The van didn't have enough space ahead of him for the private hire to emerge and position properly within the lane ahead of him, so the van should have closed the gap to prevent the private hire from being able to make the mistake.
@@BrightonandHoveActually I also don't know the area, and it's impossible to comment based on only the dashcam footage provided, so I looked it up on google maps. Streetview is a powerful tool.
@@dominikbeiwinklerI accept the point that he blocked the view to the far lane. However, he did nothing to encourage the private hire driver. He simply left the gap. That seems to be consistent with what Ashley has advocated elsewhere. And because he had nowhere to go in his lane, I do not think he was holding up traffic on his side. On the Ashley's side, no the private hire should not have passed the stop line because Ashley's student could get out of the "Keep Clear" area but, having done so, if the van had blocked the way, he would have gained nothing - apart from not losing the length of the private hire if it had tucked in ahead of him in his lane but the student and everybody else could have been stuck there for hours. In the cicumstances, I think the van driver was simply being courteous without encouraging or advocating any particular course of action.
Like the last clip not only turn left from the first set of lights but also turned left from the right hand lane at the next junction. And the little puff of black smoke from the exhaust to go as well
I was driving on a 20mph road yesterday with large speed bumps across. A taxi overtook doing at least 30mph and then he turned left about 50 yards farther on ! No patience at all.
00:25 Why should the blue van wait for your vehicle? The black Galaxy is on your side of the road, meaning that you need to move over into the path of the oncoming traffic in order to pass it. Should the van have priority here? I would have stopped in that situation, assuming that the van had priority. Am I wrong? I don't see any direction priority signs.
For work, I drive a LWB transit down a lot of narrow country lanes, often single track with / without passing places. Because it’s in the countryside there’s a lot of people walking dogs, cyclists and agricultural vehicles. Just requires a bit of forward planning, knowing where any passing places might be etc if you encounter a tractor, so you can maintain traffic flow as best as possible. If there’s any pedestrians or cyclists, I always slow down and pass them as wide as possible. If they’re coming towards me, the same applies, and I’ll often stop to let them pass. 99% of them appreciate it, and although I’m on a timetable, the few seconds to a minute ‘wasted’ letting them pass safely is significantly shorter than waiting for police and ambulance to arrive, to deal with whatever incident has just occurred. Earlier, it took me 3 attempts to travel down a single track road. Couldn’t see around a narrow corner, slowed, there was oncoming traffic and I was just past a passing place, so reversed back and let them through. Set off again and the same happened, so reverse back and let them through too. Third time lucky! With regards to stopping for emergency vehicles, it depends on the situation. Sometimes it’s safer to stop, other times, signalling and slowing a little is the best option. In this instance, with the van keeping their position in lane 2 and slowing, the vehicles in lane 1 should have maintained some of their pace to make the manoeuvre easier overall, although we do have the benefit of hindsight. Sometimes, the emergency drivers don’t make the best available choices, especially when you move out of their way, they then decide to occupy the lane that you just moved into, then undertake you on a roundabout from the wrong lane (as the ‘overtaking’ lane was free)
4:46, light changes to amber before car enters shadow of overpass, goes red 2 seconds later as car exits shadow, 1 second later car crosses stop line, having had a good 10 plus the length of the overpass to stop.
As usual, great stuff, just a pity that there are so many idiots out there giving you ammunition. One of my best / worst experiences was whilst giving plenty of space between myself and a learner car in front, basically I had been tail gated for a couple of miles in this scenario whereupon said tailgater overtook me aggressively and proceeded to tail gate the learner. KNOBHEAD.
13:09 There is also an L plate I saw on that which means the driver or rider, is not allowed to carry a passenger. L plate restrictions on motorcycles include no carrying a passenger on the back, and not allowed to use motorways.
I was always taught at traffic lights the left hand lane ( if both are straight on) should set off first, having said that the left hand lane in your example wasn't a valid lane, as it was for cycles .
I'm learning atm (test in a couple months) and every time I see someone rock up to a junction I instinctively take my foot off the gas and cover the brake in case they pull out on me. Two people have, and I've had to brake for them. Defensive driving is key.
Thanks for making these videos Ashley... My son is learning to drive at the moment and I've been showing him your videos to help me explain the importance of situational and hazard awareness. They seem to be doing some good as he often mentions now about the idiot drivers we have locally, and how he's handled situations. It's videos like these that when used as a learning resource can be invaluable.
Thanks, Ashley. I've been a professional driver for over 30 years and see things like this every day. The attitude of a lot of drivers is appallingly selfish, 30somethings in German cars seem to be the worst.
Ashley I think you will find that, just as some drivers have no appreciation or consideration for the situation of a learner driver, those same drivers have an equal lack of consideration for a truck driver. Expect to relive many of these same scenarios in your new endeavour.
The white van red light jumper is just plain typical of that junction. It's part of my daily commute and I see that exact thing nearly every day. When I don't see that, it's someone flashing their lights at me and telling me to move from behind while sat in traffic to turn right... it's a magnet for idiots.
13:08 OMG ive had the exact same situation recently. Two guys riding on the pavement. Marged into roundabout from the pavement and then they went from left turning lane to the right jumping the red light.
I might be stupid but why should the blue car wait in the second clip? Where I live we drive on the rightside of the road, so I am not sure what is different on in the Uk. It seems to me that since the road is blocked on the left side the learner car should wait.
I've been in the emergency vehicle situation on a few occasions where the car in front has decided to stop leaving cars behind nowhere to go and blocking the emergency services vehicles. What is so hard to understand about giving way to them - not stopping and blocking their path. Over the years I've been driving, recently it has become a nightmare with too many idiots on the road. As a final comment, I am also fed up with drivers who make a mistake and then blame you for their own error!
Cars like this are the reason that at a light controlled crossing across one side of a duel carriageway I will look both ways and if a car is at the point where I couldn’t make it safely across I will wait till they slow to a safe speed for me to cross.
As you say, many drivers misbehave to get past a learner. However, you can double that type of action when it is to get past a service bus, or even worse, when it is a bus with L plates.
I've never got this. We all had to learn once. I remember my dad teaching me, and I stalled at a junction. The bloke behind started f-ing and blinding, and I panicked, and stalled again. My dad calmly said "jump out lad, I'll drive." As we swapped places, my dad walked up to his window and shouted "THANKS VERY F@#$#@ MUCH, YOU C%#$!" It's one of the only times I've heard him raise his voice. He was fuming. It always stuck in my head, and I give learners as much room as they need. Good bloke, my dad.👍
my thoughts on the van around the 6minute mark, i will say thats an undertake. traffic was flowing above 20mph (by the looks of it) which is too fast and adding more risk. if traffic was building up and going slow it would be a merge in turn. i use 20mph as a guide because of a motorbike case i read about in a law section of MCN (motorcycle news). in the case a motorbike was filtering, an incident happened but the judge ruled in the motorbikes favour as they were doing under 20mph when filtering. and although there is no speed limit for filtering, it mentions filtering in slow moving traffic, that case sort of defines slow moving traffic is traffic going less than 20mph (is the way i see it).
Yes and no. In fact the van's way was blocked just behind Ashley's car, so technically it is whoever gets there first who has priority. That was Ashley's pupil.
I live in Sydney, Australia. My take on the first clip, blue van continuing while you waited behind a parked car. First, it's against the rules here to park facing the wrong direction. Second, I'm not aware of any rule covering who has right of way. I would pause as you did, letting the van through. Your way was blocked, his was free. I would not have gone 'around' the parked car unless certain that I could clear it without impeding the van.
Is it the rule in the UK that the first to the narrow point should be allowed through? What about going around a slow-moving cyclist? Does the presence or absence of a centre line make a difference? [The centre line stopped just where the car was parked]. Does the posted speed limit have any bearing?
Technically Ashley and his learner had priority there, it's why you hear him say "He (the van) should be holding back." This is because in this meeting traffic situation he should have encountered the parked car on his side of the road after the learner commits to an overtake, he should have seen that the learner was already committed to passing the sequence of cars on his side of the road, as well as being in the middle of a tight spot due to the other parked car on the van's side of the road he had already passed. All of these factors should have made the van give way before the first parked car on his side of the road. The UK highway code doesn't explicitly say "if you need to use the opposite side of the road when passing parked cars give way to oncoming traffic," but it is implied due to other rules stating that if an obstruction is on your side of the road you must give way. Also it is against the law here too to park facing oncoming traffic, it's just that rule only comes into force after dark for some weird reason.
@@moyadapne968 As a Police person it was my great delight in NZ to find someone parked "the wrong way" (facing into oncoming traffic). Sheer bloody cheek/laziness/couldn't be arsed to walk across the road. It was bonus time..one ticket for the parking..and inevitably one for no Warrant of Fitness (MOT) and no Registration...the trifecta. Yessss! (Our Traffic Infringement Notices had three lines per each notice...shame to leave a space....)
You mentioned the unpredictability of driving school cars. My experience while taking lessons was like this: people try to overtake you even if you're driving as fast as is allowed. Not all, but there is a group of drivers that hate being behind such a car. As a novice driver, i somewhat agree with them. I exited the highway with one in front of me. At the end of the off ramp, 150 meters from the T-crossing, he slammed the break like mad, only to continue the last 120+ meters going 30km/h or about 20mph. It was not needed to slow down THAT much THAT early and it's not something you'd predict normally. Luckily i have the habit of keeping my distance, especially when i see a driving school car or when i've observed sloppy driving from the person in front of me. One thing i've ended up hating alot is tailgating. I see it happen so much and in ridiculous situations: Fast lane completely free and the driver leaves no room to physically fit a single car inbetween... It's a recipe for disaster.
5:25 one of my biggest bug bears when on blue lights, it happens WAY too often and shows just how bad people are at planning. The white Van made two mistakes which made life way more difficult for the Police car than it should have been. He should have heard the sirens and conceded before pulling out and should then have gone into the left lane straight away and pulled into the right after the Police car pulled past. Unfortunately people see blue and brake.. I see it all the time and while many people are good at letting us through, many times they get it wrong. One of the big lessons I learnt was to telegraph where I want to go as early as possible, however even that often doesn't work, as in this clip.
Although I have held a driving license for over 40 years, there is always someting to learn. I am enjoying watching your videos as I have encountered many of the situations, many times!
At 9:01 you say that the learner might fail the test if someone jumps out infront of them like that. How would that happen and IF the learner fails is that not good as they could not deal with the situation at hand?
Think you misunderstood what he meant,he’s meant it as if you were to pull out on your test like that as a learner you would fail your test not if someone pulled out on you
1:30 This just nicely shows why a line of paint just isn't good enough cycling infra. Make it the same lvl as the pavement and give it some colour. Solid bollards would go a long way as well.
the two into one merge is a double edge sword. you should give way to overtaking vehicles but, you should not overtake if you cannot complete the manouver safely. also the white van undertaking is que jumping £100 fine i think.
On the second clip at 1:23, I suggest that the road is incorrectly marked out on the approach to the traffic lights and therefore confusing and dangerous. What if you wanted to turn left at these traffic lights? I saw no traffic signs forbidding this yet the solid white line appear to indicate the cycle lane as going well beyond the point where you would normally turn left and right up to the stop line for traffic going straight ahead or turning right. Had I wanted to turn left at this junction, with no traffic signs forbidding such a manoeuvre, I would think it sensible to enter the cycle lane for that purpose just before the traffic lights.
THREE CLOWNS - the white van for stopping in right lane and not moving to left lane and rolling on, the car in front for stopping at all, and you for telling the learner they do not need to stop (IF YOU MEANT her to overtake there and then) Your overtaking would annoy the car and may block the right lane - added to the complication for the emergency service vehicle by the van already causing a chicane for it - if the car changed its mind and drove on with you alongside, then just adding to the blockage at whatever was ahead (traffic lights?)
I had someone pull out in front of me on my driving test. They parked in a bus stop with their hazards on and just as I was approaching they started moving, the hazard lights still on. Luckily I was able to slow down and it wasn't an issue. I passed with only 2 minors, both of which were unrelated to the car pulling out
Well said about the scooter, completely agree with what you said. Many people nowadays are too selfish. I see many bikes like that around Liverpool, 9/10 times they're stolen.
just thought i would add my latest idiot, driving through a small village at 30 then the speed limit goes up to 50 i was doing about 40/45 coming to my turning left which then goes back down to 40, about 50 yards before the turn a guy overtakes me on a bend and then turns left into my road, but accelerates to way over 60 to prove a point ! i bet he got home 10 seconds early
5:24, stopping there at that slow speed made sense imo, it allowed the (much faster) police car to pass, carrying on that slow gets in the way of the police car. Strange.
Haven’t driven in the uk for 20 years so I can see how bad red light jumping seems to have got. It’s really bad here in the US and there is no red/orange before green so many drivers will just sit at a green for a few seconds before going, for ‘safety’ (instead of just looking for red light runners) which you have to get used to. The van thing at the beginning, that looked to us like he had right of way and so not sure why you say he should have waited and let you guys through? I like how you stop for a chat and go through situations with the student. 👍🏼
Why is it that no one indicates correctly any more when negotiating roundabouts. I see morons indicating right (sometimes) but never indicating left when leaving the roundabout.
6:10 Van driver might not have seen the road narrowing (as it was over the brow of the hill) as he seems to be surprised and then has to brake to fit back into the outside lane.
4:23 "I was ignoring the SatNav on purpose" - now that's no way to maintain a relationship. You need to both sit down and talk this out before you let things go any further. I know she's all "Turn Left Here" and "Take the Third Exit from the Roundabout" but at the end of the day you've got to live together.
Strangely enough, after I got my first sat-nav equipped car, I used to set the destination to some far away place (like Dover) and then practice ignoring 'wimen telling me what to do', though as the sat-nav is actually a 'disembodied voice' it was probably easier than trying to ignore the wife's !
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@@OldSonyMan - shame on you, man !
@@thetessellater9163 I needed the strength and practice, cos them women got ways of making me 'do stuff' !
We have 2 sat nav screens in truck. every time I look at Halfords new car dat navs I am chicken how poor the resolution and how wonderfully confusing the colour scheme is.
A- Z maps for me , if really lost one look at Google map and I know where to go.
11:13 Shoutout to that lorry driver giving the learner the time they needed and I think he even went right and forward a bit more to block the fiesta hahaha!
When in a driving lesson (not a legal instructor a family friend) a lorry cut me off at a round about I braked (obviously) and the “teacher” screamed at me and hit me saying I was putting him in danger by emergency stopping and not driving into the lorry wtf lol 😂
I just don't get it, I can't remember the last time I actually got held up by a driving school car, I've certainly never felt like I need to break the law to overtake one.
I remember only having done this once on a 50 mph road because the learner was cruising along at about 37. Gave as much space as I could when overtake and didn't cut back in. Otherwise yeah, quite rare to see a learner slow people down that much.
I’ve been slightly inconvenienced by a learner being below the speed limit, but I just see it like this “well, I’m definitely not getting a speeding ticket today 😂” and continue about my day.
It’s not often that they’re significantly below the limit, because the instructor is usually telling them to accelerate / more gas.
I’ll always give a little extra room to a learner, we were all learners at one point, and there’s a lot to take in, you don’t need the extra pressure of an impatient person hanging 6 inches off your bumper and driving erratically looking for the first overtake they can get
Yeah, I can generally gague by how they're learning how long they've been driving, but I always give all drivers a little space (tyres and tarmac, more for bigger vehicles). If I see the driver in front doing something odd I give extra room, to keep both me out of trouble and they won't feel pressured by someone tailgating.
I can do this because I don't feel like I'm in a rush on the roads, I always leave enough time in case of traffic etc.
It's one of my real pet peeves on the road - drivers that drive aggresively around learners. I have overtaken learner drivers on nation speed limit roads when it was safe to do so, because they were going significantly below the speed limit, but I always make sure to give them plenty of room. It amazes me how so many drivers choose to forget that they were once the nervous, inexperienced driver in that car.
I can't remember the last time I was held up either. Most driving instructors will find somewhere quiet until the driver is confident enough to not hold people up. I've never watched any of Ashley's videos & though they were driving a little too slowly. The worst that can happen is stalling when pulling away, but most people do this once in a while.
I always give space and curtesy to learner drivers as it’s really nerve racking when learning to drive. I learned in a 7.5 ton lorry and will never forget the experience.
The problem is that there are too many drivers that forget that they were once the learner.
For sure. I learnt to drive a motorbike last year and despite it being obvious that I was a learner it was amazing how many people did stupid things or just plain got up my backside/too close to the side.
Every car driver should have a day out in a 7.5t truck. It would improve lorry awareness no end
@@thefoxhat6163 Why make the inconsiderate drivers think they have even more power to bully their way through by giving them something bigger? Give them a day on a motorcycle so they spend a day from the point of view of a vulnerable road user.
@@crussell5856 There is a case for that also. My last CPC had an arctic and they placed 20 people on bicycles around the vehicle. You couldn't see a single one of them from the driver's seat. Lorry drivers are aware. I'm not so sure the cyclists are. Perhaps if the cyclists had a day out in a truck, they'd find out how dangerous it is for cyclists & where the blind spots are.
Ashley
You talk about catching a lot of red light jumpers
Have you got any for sale- my chest size is 2xl
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Absolutely nailed it Keith
Hahaha! 😆
@Wrecked Pluto your entitled to your opinion but your massively outvoted
@Wrecked Pluto Puns aren't funny to you. You put more effort in to saying that instead of scrolling.
EVEN BEFORE I STARTED DRIVING LESSONS in 1988, I was told to treat everybody else as an idiot
Never a truer word spoken, and all drivers probably think their "idiot magnets"
My driving instructor told me to assume everyone is an idiot and you’re invisible.
@@eliz_scubavn agreed and as a cyclist, it takes on even extra meaning from my experience
Same here. Some prick had the audacity to tell me that he was a better driver than me, and that if I took my test these days I wouldn’t pass. He was probably in his teens. I’ve been driving coaches for almost 20 years.
keith barber I’m a motorcyclist. I’m convinced that motorcycles have invisibility cloaks because the amount of people who don’t/can’t see me, on a bright green motorbike, is staggering. I also didn’t realize just how vulnerable I was until I began to ride.
William Baker some idiot tried to have a go at my grandfather like this. My grandfather was a miner for a living and drove vehicles up to 45 tons on a regular basis as part of his job. Even to this day he can still remember how to operate them.
I love the music choice mate 😅 could definitely imagine your singing alone 🤣
Don't ya know that everyone in Liverpool is an ace singer?!👍
Thought for a second it was TH-cam’s suggestion, then it clicked 😂
I'm pretty sure it would beTHE BEATLES songs .🎶
Missed an oppo for a rickroll mind
From when i was an instructor 2003-2010 i did some training for a grocery delivery company who employed quite a few Eastern Europeans. One session the driver just stopped because he heard an emergency vehicle siren...no emergency vehicle in sight. Apparently, in his home country (cant remember which one) you MUST stop. It did generate a conversation over how to aid the progress of an emergency vehicle
I must admit about a month ago I almost hit a driving school car on the approach to a roundabout, I was too busy looking right, my tunnel vision kicked in and wasn’t expecting them to stop. Totally my fault and just as well no contact was made. Love your channel and forever learning. I remember my instructor saying “this is where the learning begins” I was arrogant at the time but years later know what he meant.
Such a good point about giving learners plenty of room. When I was learning I often would brake when there was no need to but just because I was nervous. So driving right up their bum is totally silly as you never know when they might decide to brake and the instructor can't control that.
I always give them plenty of room simply because I know what it's like to be new to the road. Crush a learner's confidence by treating them like shit when they're learning and when they pass they won't pass as confident as they could be, ensuring yet another bad driver on the roads
@@elsden722 My driving instructor once had me back off near a parking spot where someone was having trouble to reverse into that spot and he said "We are going to wait, no matter how annoyed people behind us might be." and at the end when the person had found that spot he was like "Are there any injuries? Any damage that we can report? No? Exactly. Remember that not everyone is as capable when driving how you might want them to be, so just give them room, just like we want people to keep some space around us while around a learner car for it being capable of making unexpected movements. You'll generally make up that time easily, and if you don't, you've left home late."
“You don’t have to stop”... if I were that car, I would have just kept going slow and steady until the emergency vehicle passed. There’s two lanes so vehicles should tuck into the left lane and leave the right lane for the emergency vehicle to travel in. The junction is still a little distance ahead and there’s enough clear road ahead before the junction in the left lane for traffic to continue
That last one with the car in the right lane.
I'm a street cleaner on foot.
And can honestly say if I'm crossing a road it doesn't matter what lane and what direction a driver indicating.
I automatically assume they could be going anywhere.
On May patch most streets are one way but I still need to look both ways before crossing
I have just passed my test, and I live in Huyton. These videos haven't half made me drive safer and be aware of how others drive especially seeing areas I know on these videos. Appreciate these videos, Ashley!
Great job!
I drive on blue lights for the ambulance service and frequently come across folks who are unsure of what to do. When I'm in my personal car I don't automatically pull over or stop just because an emergency vehicle needs to pass. I read the road, if the opposite lane is clear for them to pass, just adjusting my speed is enough. Stopping near to islands is frustrating but magnetic cars are the worst! One pulls over so the car coming the other way waits until they are close then decides to stop, right beside the other stationary car and blocks everyone! I say to people if in doubt continue safely within the speed limit and when the road clears or a layby comes up, indicate and pull over normally. We are taught to hang back and expect mistakes. Better to get there safely than not at all.
5:10 Couldn’t agree more. As an emergency driver, please DON’T just stop without considering where and why. The number of people who stop right before an island is staggering, meaning that I have to slow to a crawl to steer around you, wasting valuable seconds.
Notice us early (use the mirrors!), take time to think, then react (if it’s needed).
EDIT - Emergency vehicles can legally go offside at an island, but it’s one of the most dangerous things you can do, so avoid at all costs! Islands are there to protect, and typically people don’t look for traffic coming the wrong way!
That's an interesting contrast to an earlier emergency poster who wanted to see other drivers react and preferebly pull over. Unfortunately there are too many people who can't even think for themselves when driving much less for another vehicle.
Wayne Jackson it’s always helpful to see someone react, especially in a city/town environment. A flash of the brake lights or an indicator is always appreciated, but a reaction doesn’t need to be a ‘stop’, or even a slow, where the road layout allows. In the video, you can see that the police car wants the van to pull to the near side lane, but it doesn’t, and so they undertake. Because the black car ahead had stopped, Ashley had to as well, meaning that the police car’s manoeuvring gap was decreased. Not so much an issue in this case, but close everything down a few feet (eg heavy traffic) and you start to have problems.
There is certainly a time and a place for stopping for an emergency vehicle to pass, so long as it’s thought through first (eg not right next to a bloody island!). I would hate for us to become like America where EVERYONE stops and pulls over for an emergency vehicle, because it simply isn’t needed and a good amount of the time, causes more problems than it solves 😇
@@geko7844 here's an example of planning ahead and the best option was to stop: th-cam.com/video/22SBCnPHGQA/w-d-xo.html
My personal driving philosophy: If you see or hear an emergency vehicle...then it is time to stop at the side of the road (or if necessary partly/wholly on the footpath) and remain stopped until the emergency vehicle can no longer be seen...and you have ascertained there is no other emergency vehicle closely following the first! The philosophy is you are no longer a randomly moving object and therefor no threat to the emergency vehicle. You are stationary like a lamppost...and the emergency vehicle can make it's decision where it decides to go without having to take into account your randomness. 24 years Police driver, with no unintentional crashes during pursuits...but huge frustrations with unthinking/oblivious/stupid/ moronic moving drivers.
@@teenaramsay2469 UK Highway Code says not to break any driving rules in the event of making space for emergency vehicles. So, don't mount kerbs, don't drive onto footpaths, don't creep through red traffic lights, etc. - all things that people do tend to do!
14:23 gets a pop up for the WAP music video 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was not expecting that! I thought Ash was more of an Eagles kind of guy
Once again I want to thank you for these videos. Instead of choosing the craziest clips to get the most views, you're bringing awareness by discussing the drivers'/riders' faults in a calm way. I especially agree with your point about never just "following the leader". I was involved in an accident a few weeks ago where two cars made an illegal left turn across the segregated cycle lane I was using, and I ended up crashing into the side of the second car. The driver told me she "thought it was allowed because the first car did it". Thankfully my injuries were minor and I recovered in a few days.
On-screen graphics are great. Also, that point about the instructor not being able to PREVENT braking is a good one. Teaching my kids, there were a few times when I yanked on the handbrake, but there was one frightening incident when my son stopped suddenly at a green light (red arrow) and I never felt more helpless, wincing and waiting to be real-ended.
As long as the emergency vehicle has plenty of room to get through and on with their journey, no need to stop whatsoever unless absolutely necessary
I live in Walsall (England) and now red light jumping is so bad that they will keep driving across the junction if you do not start moving when your light is green, I often have to carefully move around jumpers as I cross the lights.
11:13 - I put my vote for the Fiesta being the arse of the month. Showed themselves up massively. Glad that the HGV driver had blocked the Fiesta, because I would half be sure that learner wouldn't expect the Fiesta barging past. Only the lorry patiently waiting.
On a funny note it's always a classic to see that the Fiesta driver trying to take a 'shortcut' (whilst doing a really poor job at it) and ends up the last to their destination. Lost at their own game!
In response to the Emergency Vehicle clip; on a two lane road (as shown) I'd agree that the vehicle in front of you could have continued as there is plenty of room for the police car to use lane two.
However, on a single lane road it's much, much more helpful to us if the vehicles giving way do come to a complete stop rather than becoming a moving obstacle at 5mph! We look for a 'positive reaction' from the vehicles in front of us (brake lights, indicators, or actually moving to the left) - it's much more hazardous if we have to proceed past someone who hasn't given us a positive indication, as we're cautious to if they've actually seen us or not (it's amazing how many drivers are totally oblivious to us).
True, but many drivers stop too early in a panic leaving those behind no room to maneuver.
Not clearing junctions for example, means you must pass vehicles who will take a different route altogether.
On most roads indicating positively and pulling over allows passing easily.
I'll always remember the ambulance alongside my learner in the early 80s, in a right turn only lane. The driver hit us three times trying to go ahead at the lights, then didn't stop.... they were obviously refusing to queue and trying to pass the learner.
I curtailed the lesson after a cool down. Went to the ambulance station to report matters to a blind refusal of the boss to acknowledge the damage and incident. I had two witnesses.
There in the wash bay around back were four staff T Cutting the side of the ambulance. Out came the old instamatic camera. Popped round the corner and dragged an old copper mate out to see.
Five including the boss were prosecuted for multiple offences including criminal charges.
All ambulances used to be Crown Vehicles. Good luck with suing the Queen... the driver and her (yes even then her), seemed to believe they had the same protection. They found out they didn't, the hard way.
My damage was paid for out of a fund and not by an insurer.
13:50 thanks for saying this, it is the bane of professional drivers everywhere, the prevailing attitude among vulnerable road users that their actions are somehow more minor as they are, for the most part, only risking their own lives, as you say, particularly for someone who drives for a living, often as their sole source of income, hitting & potentially killing someone with their vehicle can ruin them mentally, and with the recurring campaign to somehow make vulnerable road users less legally accountable, can even jeopardise their livelyhoods.
wheres the data that this is the prevailing attitude amongst peds, cycles and motorbike riders? Most of them also drive, sorry but i don't agree its prevailing, its a dangerous minority, the same way the reckless drivers are a minority.
Having ridden with cycling clubs, I can tell you the ones without lights at night, not looking, not waiting are a problem for real cyclists too.
But the fact is, bad driving by motor vehicles is the main problem on the roads. Ashley complains about how cars overtaking to turn left for example, if he rode a sports bike he'd soon see how common overtaking, then braking is, not just scissors maneuvers. This is common in the countryside into blind bends
Good old Walton vale never lets you down for bad drivers.
This has been one of the funniest videos you have uploaded! Had a good chuckle when WAP popped up in the corner of the screen. hahaha
Honestly I love your videos. They show a lot of interesting situations that everyone can learn from, not just learners.
In regards to people pulling out in front of learner vehicles, you're spot on. How dangerous it is is ridiculous. And I had it myself, 8 months ago when I was learning to drive a Class 2. As you'll know, since you've taken the lessons , it's not an empty lorry, it often has a load like water on the back, to simulate a delivery of something. The number of people willing to pull out in front of a lorry, especially one with an L plate on it, with no more than 20 feet, in some cases, was incredible. And, I don't know about your experience in a Learner Wagon, but mine didn't have dual controls, because I'm obviously already a driver, so in theory, | wouldn't need someone else there to control the vehicle.
Ashley I'm never here this early for your videos - but I wanted to say thank you for the content you make. Videos like yours have made me a more aware, sensible and reasonable driver.
This footage is absolutely unbelievable. Your demeanour with your pupils is awesome.
Funny looking bicycle turning right at 6:26.
6:32 - as a cyclist, this really annoys me - why do so many cars think the ASL is for them and not bikes, even though there's a big picture of a bike and a solid white line around it?!? Happens all over Liverpool.
Yes it is the law and as such means that it should be obeyed but in reality, what it does is put the slowest means of transport at the front and I fail to see why a cyclist is given priority over a motor vehicle, what it does is cause a tail back and make drivers become stuck behind a red light again.
@@honestchris7472 And more risky overtakes further down the road if narrow.
@@honestchris7472 Those areas are to save lives, the area allows cyclists to be seen. In my home city, cycle commuter average speeds are twice as fast as cars, they are the slowed form of transport.
One thing to understand, when I ride a bike, I am held up for far longer by cars, than cyclists ever hold me up when I am driving, though I give them room and overtake considerately.
It's not about priority, but what happens when cars and HGVs force cyclists out of taking the lane.
Motorists often don't look properly, you should find it simpler when they have space and can move into position to turn, whilst you are held up by lights.
@@flybobbie1449 that's your bad driving ..
@@RobBCactive You don't know how i drive.
I have a question:
00:25 - Why the van should held back when he doesn't have any obstacle up front on the road?
In my view the learner should held back in first place because he has an obstacle in front.
What am I missing?
Thank you.
With you on that pal, I was always under the impression that if there is an obstacle on my side of the road the other side has priority cause they don't have an obstacle.
This is correct, unfortunately this video demonstrates a sense of unwarranted entitlement of this driving school
That is really interesting. I had a load of abuse shouted at me by a passenger side ambulance medic once because I slowed right down but didn't actually stop. The road was a long straight road with only me and the ambulance on it. The road was 3 lanes wide and I was tight in on the left doing around 5 MPH (60 MPH road). She shouted at me as passing saying I "should stop" and calling me a name!!
I must admit that when I first got my driving license (Denmark) at 18, I was a complete w*nker the first 2-3 years myself. Despite the facts like you're in the UK and stuff works different than in Denmark, I've watched your videos through the last couple of years and your words have me constantly re-thinking any sort of situation twice and therefore often speaking to myself, saying stuff like "Is it really worth that 1 overtake mate?" or even "how would I feel if someone pulled this move on me" and I calmly take a chill so we all can go on safe. Respect on your videos Ashley.
Best Regards
Thanks for your kind words. Hilsen, Ashley.
Sorry but I would have stopped, as the kuga did to give the blue light vehicle room to play with. However would have put on a left signal.
Thanks for being cycle friendly, you'd always get a thumbs up from me!
It is a pity that more cylists don`t have a better attitude toward car drivers.
@@honestchris7472 The opposite also applies!
@@SpeccyMan yes, I suppose it does.
pleanty of cyclists ride just fine. Sadly its the vocal haters against cyclists that perperuate the myth that "cyclists are bad." You get cars who purposely stop soo close the curb's at the lights that bikes cant get pass. Cars swerve at cyclists when overtaking to knock them off (Ashley even uploaded a video of a retired cop knocking a cyclist to the ground), drivers not giving way to cyclists at junctions or roundabouts, i can go on but the point stands. And when a cyclist then defends themselves, we get the usual "see!? cyclists are a trouble!"
I need to rethink my ‘learner impatience’. 😂 seriously though, I have seen this a lot over the years. I do know that patience and road rage have risen exponentially over the last decade, if not the last 5 years mostly. The amount of swearing and gesturing that occurs now is the worst I’ve ever come across. The worst areas I see it are definitely the ‘merge in turn’ scenarios and a very high percentage of ppl do not fully understand how to proceed in these areas which causes aggro at the merge. (I have now changed my attitude to this as well thanks to all the ppl here on this channel and your videos).
@Wrecked Pluto - attitudes have changed. It’s nothing to do with how much traffic there is. Traffic doesn’t cause road rage, people and their attitudes do.
At 6.13, the lane on the left is open to use and the van is using it, there are no indications that the lane is closed and instead of all of the cars queueing in the outer lane and making a longer queue, if they use the inner lane then there would be fewer cars in the outer lane and then filter in when the cones are approached.
It is 50 years this year since I past my Motorcycle Test (you could ride @ 16 then) and 50 years next year for Car Test. I have seen especially in the last decade a steady decline in driving standards. Although retired I regularly drive 12 miles to help out at my Daughter’s Business and notice that more & more drivers in a hurry and willing to put other people’s lives in danger just to get somewhere a few seconds earlier. Overtake in and at the wrong time, going through red lights, fighting in a merge in turn, etc, etc. and arriving only a car ahead.
Hey Ashley, I wish we had driving instructors like you here in Australia. I am originally from the UK and have driven all over the world over the years. I can truthfully say the the standard of driving and the unsavoury aggression here accompanied by intense exaggeration make Australia (in my opinion) the worst drivers in the world. I preferred driving in Naples and India than here. My son has just passed his test and even he was surprised how dangerously he was taught as I have always shown him how to drive correctly and politely and never exaggerate an already dangerous situation. Keep up the good work - I'm an avid fan.
I don't get the L plate thing. Whenever I see one I try to start driving my best because I don't want to embarrass myself in front of an instructor. Not that I'm not always driving my best ;)
7:13 Question - what should the driver of the grey van have done do you think?
I realise it was a private hire but if you are in a queue and somebody wants to enter the flow from the right, crossing the lane going against you how should you go about giving way?
My thought is that the van was a little too far forward to do so. Ideally he would need to stop just before drawing level with the "KEEP CLEAR" area for traffic going the other way. Even though it does not apply to him it will give room for the emerging vehicle to get across and out of the other lane.
This would only really be applicable if you were queuing and happened to be there, though. You should not hold up traffic behind you waiting for a gap the other way for them to get out - your point in an earlier clip about keeping traffic flowing applies.
On the other hand, if the private hire driver is intent on gambling, the shop on that corner should be able to assist :)
The van is creating a huge risk by letting the private hire in! By the looks of it, the private hire wanted to get to the very far lane and letting him in might give him the idea of "it's all clear, I can go now". The van being there blocks the view to the far lane, so oncoming traffic isn't able to see the private hire and vice versa. I've seen too many crashes happen because somebody let someone else in. In my opinion the private hire should have waited to have a clear view of the lane he wants to go to or instead turn into the lane the van is in and then wait and look or even take the left turn one intersection later and circle back.
You give way if you can and it doesn't cause an issue to do so.
In this situation, the private hire _should_ have emerged going Southbound on the A59, then to get to Chapel Avenue would have had to merge into the left lane, then exit the A59, all in the length of about two cars. He would have caused much less of an issue if he's emerged onto the A59 then continued Southbound for like another eight seconds to turn left into the mini street/car park, which emerges onto Chapel Avenue. It would not only have cost everyone else less time in total, but he would probably also have gotten there faster.
The van didn't have enough space ahead of him for the private hire to emerge and position properly within the lane ahead of him, so the van should have closed the gap to prevent the private hire from being able to make the mistake.
@@Asdayasman I don't know the area - altough clearly a private hire driver should. I was more looking at it as generic discussion point.
@@BrightonandHoveActually I also don't know the area, and it's impossible to comment based on only the dashcam footage provided, so I looked it up on google maps. Streetview is a powerful tool.
@@dominikbeiwinklerI accept the point that he blocked the view to the far lane. However, he did nothing to encourage the private hire driver. He simply left the gap. That seems to be consistent with what Ashley has advocated elsewhere.
And because he had nowhere to go in his lane, I do not think he was holding up traffic on his side.
On the Ashley's side, no the private hire should not have passed the stop line because Ashley's student could get out of the "Keep Clear" area but, having done so, if the van had blocked the way, he would have gained nothing - apart from not losing the length of the private hire if it had tucked in ahead of him in his lane but the student and everybody else could have been stuck there for hours.
In the cicumstances, I think the van driver was simply being courteous without encouraging or advocating any particular course of action.
I wish that, instead of giving points for driving offences, drivers are sent to you for a week of re-training.
Like the last clip not only turn left from the first set of lights but also turned left from the right hand lane at the next junction. And the little puff of black smoke from the exhaust to go as well
I was driving on a 20mph road yesterday with large speed bumps across. A taxi overtook doing at least 30mph and then he turned left about 50 yards farther on ! No patience at all.
00:25 Why should the blue van wait for your vehicle? The black Galaxy is on your side of the road, meaning that you need to move over into the path of the oncoming traffic in order to pass it. Should the van have priority here? I would have stopped in that situation, assuming that the van had priority. Am I wrong? I don't see any direction priority signs.
For work, I drive a LWB transit down a lot of narrow country lanes, often single track with / without passing places. Because it’s in the countryside there’s a lot of people walking dogs, cyclists and agricultural vehicles.
Just requires a bit of forward planning, knowing where any passing places might be etc if you encounter a tractor, so you can maintain traffic flow as best as possible.
If there’s any pedestrians or cyclists, I always slow down and pass them as wide as possible. If they’re coming towards me, the same applies, and I’ll often stop to let them pass. 99% of them appreciate it, and although I’m on a timetable, the few seconds to a minute ‘wasted’ letting them pass safely is significantly shorter than waiting for police and ambulance to arrive, to deal with whatever incident has just occurred.
Earlier, it took me 3 attempts to travel down a single track road. Couldn’t see around a narrow corner, slowed, there was oncoming traffic and I was just past a passing place, so reversed back and let them through. Set off again and the same happened, so reverse back and let them through too. Third time lucky!
With regards to stopping for emergency vehicles, it depends on the situation. Sometimes it’s safer to stop, other times, signalling and slowing a little is the best option. In this instance, with the van keeping their position in lane 2 and slowing, the vehicles in lane 1 should have maintained some of their pace to make the manoeuvre easier overall, although we do have the benefit of hindsight. Sometimes, the emergency drivers don’t make the best available choices, especially when you move out of their way, they then decide to occupy the lane that you just moved into, then undertake you on a roundabout from the wrong lane (as the ‘overtaking’ lane was free)
4:46, light changes to amber before car enters shadow of overpass, goes red 2 seconds later as car exits shadow, 1 second later car crosses stop line, having had a good 10 plus the length of the overpass to stop.
That XPO lorry driver is a legend. Blocked the lane so the car couldn't get thru and cause trouble for the learner. You love to see it
As usual, great stuff, just a pity that there are so many idiots out there giving you ammunition. One of my best / worst experiences was whilst giving plenty of space between myself and a learner car in front, basically I had been tail gated for a couple of miles in this scenario whereupon said tailgater overtook me aggressively and proceeded to tail gate the learner. KNOBHEAD.
13:09 There is also an L plate I saw on that which means the driver or rider, is not allowed to carry a passenger. L plate restrictions on motorcycles include no carrying a passenger on the back, and not allowed to use motorways.
I was always taught at traffic lights the left hand lane ( if both are straight on) should set off first, having said that the left hand lane in your example wasn't a valid lane, as it was for cycles .
I'm learning atm (test in a couple months) and every time I see someone rock up to a junction I instinctively take my foot off the gas and cover the brake in case they pull out on me. Two people have, and I've had to brake for them. Defensive driving is key.
Thanks for making these videos Ashley... My son is learning to drive at the moment and I've been showing him your videos to help me explain the importance of situational and hazard awareness.
They seem to be doing some good as he often mentions now about the idiot drivers we have locally, and how he's handled situations.
It's videos like these that when used as a learning resource can be invaluable.
I don't understand the junction at 1:20. How do you turn left without crossing the white line?
4:00 I wanted to ask several times - could it be that this railroad bridge is really old?
Thanks, Ashley. I've been a professional driver for over 30 years and see things like this every day. The attitude of a lot of drivers is appallingly selfish, 30somethings in German cars seem to be the worst.
And men in their 50's in very powerful cars, and youngsters in their 'hot hatches', and ......
That blue fiesta at 10:29 had plenty of space to overtake and get back into the left lane without disruption to your pupil
Ashley I think you will find that, just as some drivers have no appreciation or consideration for the situation of a learner driver, those same drivers have an equal lack of consideration for a truck driver. Expect to relive many of these same scenarios in your new endeavour.
The white van red light jumper is just plain typical of that junction. It's part of my daily commute and I see that exact thing nearly every day. When I don't see that, it's someone flashing their lights at me and telling me to move from behind while sat in traffic to turn right... it's a magnet for idiots.
Viewing this just now, saw my student digs…. 256 Stanley Road!!! Thanks for the informative videos, and the nostalgia 😂
13:08 OMG ive had the exact same situation recently. Two guys riding on the pavement. Marged into roundabout from the pavement and then they went from left turning lane to the right jumping the red light.
I might be stupid but why should the blue car wait in the second clip? Where I live we drive on the rightside of the road, so I am not sure what is different on in the Uk. It seems to me that since the road is blocked on the left side the learner car should wait.
I've been in the emergency vehicle situation on a few occasions where the car in front has decided to stop leaving cars behind nowhere to go and blocking the emergency services vehicles. What is so hard to understand about giving way to them - not stopping and blocking their path. Over the years I've been driving, recently it has become a nightmare with too many idiots on the road. As a final comment, I am also fed up with drivers who make a mistake and then blame you for their own error!
8:05 clip is typical roundabout behavior, with living in Skelmersdale this happens all the time
Cars like this are the reason that at a light controlled crossing across one side of a duel carriageway I will look both ways and if a car is at the point where I couldn’t make it safely across I will wait till they slow to a safe speed for me to cross.
Ash singing to WAP, love it! Another great video mate, thanks.
As you say, many drivers misbehave to get past a learner. However, you can double that type of action when it is to get past a service bus, or even worse, when it is a bus with L plates.
Can someone tell me what josh said at around 7:45?
I've never got this. We all had to learn once. I remember my dad teaching me, and I stalled at a junction. The bloke behind started f-ing and blinding, and I panicked, and stalled again. My dad calmly said "jump out lad, I'll drive." As we swapped places, my dad walked up to his window and shouted "THANKS VERY F@#$#@ MUCH, YOU C%#$!" It's one of the only times I've heard him raise his voice. He was fuming. It always stuck in my head, and I give learners as much room as they need. Good bloke, my dad.👍
Driving school cars , trucks , buses etc are all magnets as you will see every day of the week driving around any town or city .
my thoughts on the van around the 6minute mark, i will say thats an undertake. traffic was flowing above 20mph (by the looks of it) which is too fast and adding more risk. if traffic was building up and going slow it would be a merge in turn.
i use 20mph as a guide because of a motorbike case i read about in a law section of MCN (motorcycle news). in the case a motorbike was filtering, an incident happened but the judge ruled in the motorbikes favour as they were doing under 20mph when filtering. and although there is no speed limit for filtering, it mentions filtering in slow moving traffic, that case sort of defines slow moving traffic is traffic going less than 20mph (is the way i see it).
The blue van situation at the beginning of the video had the right away as your lane was blocked by a parked car
Yes and no. In fact the van's way was blocked just behind Ashley's car, so technically it is whoever gets there first who has priority. That was Ashley's pupil.
3:15 a blurt indeed. A restrained insult but it sums things up perfectly.
I live in Sydney, Australia.
My take on the first clip, blue van continuing while you waited behind a parked car.
First, it's against the rules here to park facing the wrong direction.
Second, I'm not aware of any rule covering who has right of way. I would pause as you did, letting the van through. Your way was blocked, his was free. I would not have gone 'around' the parked car unless certain that I could clear it without impeding the van.
Is it the rule in the UK that the first to the narrow point should be allowed through? What about going around a slow-moving cyclist? Does the presence or absence of a centre line make a difference? [The centre line stopped just where the car was parked]. Does the posted speed limit have any bearing?
It's ok in England to park facing the traffic. Do it in NZ, and it's a $150 fine. I got done. I reckon you're correct about the blue van.
Legal in the UK to park against the traffic except at night time, though often ignored.
Technically Ashley and his learner had priority there, it's why you hear him say "He (the van) should be holding back." This is because in this meeting traffic situation he should have encountered the parked car on his side of the road after the learner commits to an overtake, he should have seen that the learner was already committed to passing the sequence of cars on his side of the road, as well as being in the middle of a tight spot due to the other parked car on the van's side of the road he had already passed. All of these factors should have made the van give way before the first parked car on his side of the road. The UK highway code doesn't explicitly say "if you need to use the opposite side of the road when passing parked cars give way to oncoming traffic," but it is implied due to other rules stating that if an obstruction is on your side of the road you must give way. Also it is against the law here too to park facing oncoming traffic, it's just that rule only comes into force after dark for some weird reason.
@@moyadapne968 As a Police person it was my great delight in NZ to find someone parked "the wrong way" (facing into oncoming traffic). Sheer bloody cheek/laziness/couldn't be arsed to walk across the road. It was bonus time..one ticket for the parking..and inevitably one for no Warrant of Fitness (MOT) and no Registration...the trifecta. Yessss! (Our Traffic Infringement Notices had three lines per each notice...shame to leave a space....)
i thought we had to stop for emergency vehicles and the second red light jumper had a yellow light what are your thoughts?
You mentioned the unpredictability of driving school cars. My experience while taking lessons was like this: people try to overtake you even if you're driving as fast as is allowed. Not all, but there is a group of drivers that hate being behind such a car.
As a novice driver, i somewhat agree with them. I exited the highway with one in front of me. At the end of the off ramp, 150 meters from the T-crossing, he slammed the break like mad, only to continue the last 120+ meters going 30km/h or about 20mph. It was not needed to slow down THAT much THAT early and it's not something you'd predict normally. Luckily i have the habit of keeping my distance, especially when i see a driving school car or when i've observed sloppy driving from the person in front of me.
One thing i've ended up hating alot is tailgating. I see it happen so much and in ridiculous situations: Fast lane completely free and the driver leaves no room to physically fit a single car inbetween... It's a recipe for disaster.
5:25 one of my biggest bug bears when on blue lights, it happens WAY too often and shows just how bad people are at planning. The white Van made two mistakes which made life way more difficult for the Police car than it should have been. He should have heard the sirens and conceded before pulling out and should then have gone into the left lane straight away and pulled into the right after the Police car pulled past.
Unfortunately people see blue and brake.. I see it all the time and while many people are good at letting us through, many times they get it wrong. One of the big lessons I learnt was to telegraph where I want to go as early as possible, however even that often doesn't work, as in this clip.
9:39 - 10:02 : what were they up to? Any ideas?
Although I have held a driving license for over 40 years, there is always someting to learn. I am enjoying watching your videos as I have encountered many of the situations, many times!
Quick 1 at 35 seconds why did you say the blue van should have stayed back the obstruction was on your side
At 9:01 you say that the learner might fail the test if someone jumps out infront of them like that.
How would that happen and IF the learner fails is that not good as they could not deal with the situation at hand?
Think you misunderstood what he meant,he’s meant it as if you were to pull out on your test like that as a learner you would fail your test not if someone pulled out on you
@@Reon_palmer Ah ty
Was the repeating of 'most' deliberate in that graffiti in the private hire Skoda clip around 6:56 ?
1:30 This just nicely shows why a line of paint just isn't good enough cycling infra. Make it the same lvl as the pavement and give it some colour. Solid bollards would go a long way as well.
the two into one merge is a double edge sword. you should give way to overtaking vehicles but, you should not overtake if you cannot complete the manouver safely. also the white van undertaking is que jumping £100 fine i think.
On the second clip at 1:23, I suggest that the road is incorrectly marked out on the approach to the traffic lights and therefore confusing and dangerous.
What if you wanted to turn left at these traffic lights? I saw no traffic signs forbidding this yet the solid white line appear to indicate the cycle lane as going well beyond the point where you would normally turn left and right up to the stop line for traffic going straight ahead or turning right.
Had I wanted to turn left at this junction, with no traffic signs forbidding such a manoeuvre, I would think it sensible to enter the cycle lane for that purpose just before the traffic lights.
THREE CLOWNS - the white van for stopping in right lane and not moving to left lane and rolling on, the car in front for stopping at all, and you for telling the learner they do not need to stop (IF YOU MEANT her to overtake there and then)
Your overtaking would annoy the car and may block the right lane - added to the complication for the emergency service vehicle by the van already causing a chicane for it - if the car changed its mind and drove on with you alongside, then just adding to the blockage at whatever was ahead (traffic lights?)
7:08 - love how the taxi driver never looks at you or puts a hand up to apologise/thank you. Absolute richardhead.
I had someone pull out in front of me on my driving test. They parked in a bus stop with their hazards on and just as I was approaching they started moving, the hazard lights still on. Luckily I was able to slow down and it wasn't an issue. I passed with only 2 minors, both of which were unrelated to the car pulling out
Have I seen a kid get out of the boot of the white car at 9:45 minutes in ????
When I am following a Learner driver I always give them space and time, because WE all have been there when we was learning to drive.
Well said about the scooter, completely agree with what you said. Many people nowadays are too selfish. I see many bikes like that around Liverpool, 9/10 times they're stolen.
just thought i would add my latest idiot, driving through a small village at 30 then the speed limit goes up to 50 i was doing about 40/45 coming to my turning left which then goes back down to 40, about 50 yards before the turn a guy overtakes me on a bend and then turns left into my road, but accelerates to way over 60 to prove a point ! i bet he got home 10 seconds early
5:24, stopping there at that slow speed made sense imo, it allowed the (much faster) police car to pass, carrying on that slow gets in the way of the police car. Strange.
5:20 - this always annoys me. So much more important to keep the flow of traffic going rather than block the road for emergency vehicles.
Haven’t driven in the uk for 20 years so I can see how bad red light jumping seems to have got. It’s really bad here in the US and there is no red/orange before green so many drivers will just sit at a green for a few seconds before going, for ‘safety’ (instead of just looking for red light runners) which you have to get used to. The van thing at the beginning, that looked to us like he had right of way and so not sure why you say he should have waited and let you guys through? I like how you stop for a chat and go through situations with the student. 👍🏼
13:17 Scooter rider is also on L plates meaning he is not allowed to carry a pillion.
HGV Behind you at around 16 minutes in was pretty good at leaving plenty of room and not intimidating your learner.
They were also good at giving a lesson to the blue fiesta
Why is it that no one indicates correctly any more when negotiating roundabouts. I see morons indicating right (sometimes) but never indicating left when leaving the roundabout.
I’m cycle quite a lot in London and always give a thumbs up or down when someone lets me through or cuts me off
6:10 Van driver might not have seen the road narrowing (as it was over the brow of the hill) as he seems to be surprised and then has to brake to fit back into the outside lane.