The Biggest Lie About Veganism - AsapSCIENCE Response
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This video covers vegan stroke risk, bone fractures, evolution, B12, and more!
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Original asapSCIENCE Video:
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PNAS Meat Consumption Over Time - Bones Study:
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Karen Hardy Starch Brain Study:
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Bone Fractures in the EPIC-Oxford Study: bmcmedicine.bi...
Weight Gain and Fracture Risk:
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Stroke in the EPIC-Oxford Study: www.bmj.com/co...
Lower Stroke in Vegetarian Males - Adventists:
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Taiwanese Vegetarians Half Stroke Risk:
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Dr. Esselstyn Study - Whole Food Vegan for CAD:
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Mic the Vegan, Subscribed because your videos always make me smile!
Mic the Vegan, You're the best! I just had to subscribe!
Congratulations for finishing your Masters, awesome 🎉
Love your videos. My steak always taste better when watching
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Congratulations on graduating🍾🎉
Whooooohooooooh! Congratulations on your Master's degree!!!!!!!! We all benefit from your accomplishment! Thank you!
I always appreciate your videos so much!
thanks for the vid. on for the algorithm.
Yeah so this video was supposed to be released way earlier but the original one is still stuck processing!!! WEIRD. I blame the Masters in Beef Advocacy program :P
Note for TH-camrs: I think it was because the upload was interrupted and restarted and the video was scheduled. Who really knows though. I finally just reuploaded it and that worked quickly so if you ever see "Processing will be begin shortly" for more than an hour then it is probably messed up.
It's not you, it's your schauma
perhaps I'm mistaken, but isn't the Master of Public Health (MPH) program closely related to Loma Linda University? well, that explains a majority of your standpoints pretty well
Don’t mind me but I will gladly continue eating meat. Cmon, I think you are forgetting
steak
burgers
chicken salad
fried chicken
roast beef
fried beef
pork
fried pork
stewed pork
stewed chicken
baked chicken
ground beef
tacos
pepper steak and cheese sub
foot long
chopped beef
minced beef
tuna sandwiches
tuna wraps
tuna tacos
tuna salad
sushi
fish
fried fish
fish sticks
fish and chips
lasagna
casserole
Sausage
And more much, but you can be vegan if you want. I’ll keep eating meat.
Great points, as usual! Thank you so much, Mike, for doing what you do. I started watching your videos soon after I went vegan. They're always helpful, and enjoyable. Good work, my friend!
I know how you feel. Finishing my MLIS next semester. Been 3 years 😆
👍. The points of concern were picked up and tackled well: the title of that video, the canines - baffling how people ignore what their eyes tell them about human canines and simply focus on the word, the bone study, the stroke, the B12 *missed out here by both that video and by Mic was the data about 40% of all Americans, and a higher percentage of seniors, being deficient*, the good summing up list of health benefits of vegan diet - and yes the scant attention given to animal suffering. A good Mic the vegan video, again. Thanks. And congratulations on completing the public health course. 🎉💐
The 2 plant foods you mention for B12 are simply not available except in some Asian countries
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Mike!!! Congratulations are in order! Good Job!
what i really hate about these vegan related videos in youtube is that almost none of them hardly ever talk about animals and how they are being exploited.
This! They’re actually talking about plant-based diets but conflate it with veganism
people will willing kill animals if they believe its nutritionally or environmentally superior. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't mentally well enough to care about others.
I think one reason may be that it’s implicit in the term veganism that it spares the lives of animals.
Yea it's really gross honestly, they've such a hard on trying their hardest to debunk its health and environmental benefits, that they ignore the very real ethical concerns with their own diets. I don't understand it, especially coming from "objective science" channels.
I don't know man, I've taken enough psychedelics to have compassion for the plants too. Instead I try to be grateful for what the animals and plants provide me.
CONGRATS on your graduation!!!! everyone has their own timeline...it took me 7 years to get my bachelors for haing to take mental health breaks...KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!🎉
I’m about to graduate after this summer my 6th year 😅 this comment makes me feel better
i like ur name
Most of cow's milk is actually not that rich in calcium. In our country they actually add calcium to the milk. So why not just drink plant based milk that has also added calcium and other nutrients
You will always have carnists saying gorillas eat animals too.
All primates eat meat at times in the wild, I would be interested if zoos give them this part of their natural diet.
Really good Thank You! These days it is sometimes scary how twisted things get online & always nice to hear a calm factual rebuttal 😉🙏
Congrats on MPH! I work in research/academia and Ive watched you for years and have been vegan almost 10 yrs(I was raised vegetarian), you are one of the only vegan content creators that I can rely on as being peer reviewed and scientifically accurate. Alot of the other vegan content creators have gone kinda wacky since 2015!😅
Which ones specifically? 😅
Thanks! Glad to keep it scientific :) I'm sure I have flubbed some citations here and there so if you ever catch any mistakes lemme know!
@@MictheVegan hi please can you look up about dandy lion i seen something about it has b12 in i see them all over the place ...thank you for all you do
Check out Nutrition Made Simple (Dr. Gil Carvalho) and Plant Chompers (Chris Macaskill) as well. There are some absolutely amazing science based vegan content creators out there ♡♡♡
I am applying to med school this year and yes, there are few vegan content channels where they are down to earth and scientifically sound. Just clicked away from a V on instagram saying vegans don't need supplementation and I'm like '!!' even omnis need supplements for b12 at certain age so that is just a lie to try to make veganism sound easy. Vegan for 11 years myself, it's not hard, but we do disservice to those who would switch by lying to them.
It's a bit annoying that they always compare to a "vegan" diet rather than a "whole food plant based" diet. One is an ethical position, the other is a diet.
Good video
Congrats on your degree! We need you ! I'm a physician and the hospitals serve eggs and bacon for breakfast to people after their bypass surgery. Its hard to find anything healthy on the menu. The veggies are poorly prepared and taste awful. They might as well sell cigarettes.
When I grow up, I'm going to Bovine University!!😄
Congratulations! 🎉🎉. Thank you for all the work you put into your videos.
Great video. I wish you would have mentioned that the b12 in animals is supplemented. You've probably said it so many times already that it slipped your mind.
I really appreciate all your hard work in this subject. You Are Awesome!!
It isn't supplemented in animals in my country as they are raised outdoors with access to natural soil bacteria and water sources which is where vitamin B12 comes from.
What country is that?
Congrats on the MPH, Mic! A great achievement and wonderful asset to have you in public health.
There's a lot of benefits of Taurine, which is difficult to get on a vegan diet, so I've been supplementing with capsules 2 or 3 times a week.
I’m a vegan, I broken my foot because I dropped a 45lb plate on it. I’m healing faster and I can do more than what my surgeons expected. I don’t think someone who eats meat would have been able to do any better than I am.
And yet, protein is being added to everything, and sugars (carbs) are being removed.
The 8.7 million species of animals have a 100% success rate with their species diet as long as they had access to the food and no accidents happened. If a vegan diet does not have a 100% success rate with simple intuition based on evolution, then someone is trying to outsmart nature which will have a 100% failure rate.
2:41 can anyone recognise what's on the plate? I can see olives, tomatoes, broccoli, beans, a yellow pepper, a rice puff cracker, what's the stringy stuff next to the olives and what's the large yellow portion on the bottom with leaves on top of it? I really love the idea of a more plant based diet but its soooo hard to do that in a third world country like the Philippines where you're slapped in the face with pork or chicken everywhere you go, unless you find that exceptionally rare restaurant with overpriced tiny portions of vegan food,
I'll take the extra possible 1.5% increase in stroke over the extra double digit increase in risk of heart disease and cancers any day.
Master of Public health!
What a shame after all that we went through and the absolute disgrace that public health has had
Mic the MPH Vegan 🤘🏽🤘🏽👍🏽🥦
The fact you think veganism is healthy is funny. Didn't this dudes child die as a vegan?
Sorry to point this out but the simple fact that Mic is vegan and he studied PUBLIC health might cast some doubts over veganism itself since public health has been so much discredited lately. Keep up the great content anyway!
@@GarudaLegendsr u joking?
A good raw kombucha serving has more than 100% of your recommended daily B12.
And also contains a lot of sugar.
Great video again, Mic. By the way, certain types of rice in India have B12.
Thanks, I will look into it!
Congrats!
Congratulations!
Go ahead mic, save animals ❤❤
Literally every study on every diet can find significant health increases.
Most people have no clue what they put in their mouths: whenever you examine people on a diet, versus a sample of the population that doesn't diet, you will find the people on the diet to have better health outcomes.
And yeah, nutritional science is still on its nascency: even today, you can find doctors recommending the food pyramid, which is basically a General Mills advertisement campaign.
Forbidden show meat in internet
Vegan show only fruits and vegetables
A whole food plant based diet and a ruminant carnivore diet both are good for ones health. I have tried both for months at a time, but as a middle aged man, it was only after being on the carnivore diet that I personally experienced (2-4 weeks into the diet) waking every morning with an erection like I did back when I was in my teens and twenties.
I'm a lap swimmer, and had no problem swimming a mile nonstop on both diets.
For health and well being regardless of diet, the important thing is to exclude all processed foods, all seed oils, most sugars.
Many of the plants we consider food today did not exist 100 to 200 years ago in the form found today. They have been modified via selective growing techniques and/ or geneticaly modified techniques. As a result fruits are more sugary, and many individual vegetables were developed/designed from one or two types of vegetable ancestors.
Lastly, if you love your animals, feed them natural foods too; not processed foods. That means feeding your cats a diet that includes raw meat or if cooked meat, but not boiled.
its messed up we still use cows for milk when that isn't necessary to make milk or cheese
@micthevegan can you do an episode on Qorn? Mycoprotein? I would love to hear your thoughts.
B12: Douglas Graham speaks about people that are B12 deficient at the beginning of a long water-only fast, but by the end of the fast their B12 levels are normal, indicating that the B12 is produced by naturally occurring bacteria in the human, given the right conditions. Anecdotal only.
Phoenix doesn’t play Julius Caesar in gladiator. Slight correction. He plays commodus, son of Marcus Aurelius.
Congrats on the Masters Degree 🥳
Congratulations on completing your masters. 🎉 Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. 😊
I would add that a vegan diet does not necessarily correlate to good health. If you are not eating meat - great - but don't expect to be healthier by eating non meat products such as bags of chips, French fries, non dairy chocolate bars, processed vegan foods, etc. Though these are foods not containing meat, they are also very hazardous to ones health. I would also add that strong bone is not the sole result of eating calcium rich food. You can eat all the calcium you want, but if you are not engaging in some form of stress related bone activity, your bones will continue to weaken. Use it or lose it is the phase that comes to mind. If the body discovers that it doesn't need to expend resources on growing bone strength, it doesn't - it simply doesn't waste it's time. To build stronger bones one needs basically two things: bone stress and proper nutrition to support bone growth. Take one or the other way and you take away bone health. Just my two cents... Peace and love always.
Being an vegan has changed my life big time! 🍓🍊🥭🫐🥥🧄🍠🍚🫡❤
A vegan diet will lead to deficiency unless we can buy the rare plants mentioned in this video. I live in a city of 150000. Not one shop sells them. The success of a vegan will depend on long-term conscientiousness and her/his income.
There's plenty of B12 in nori sheets and plenty of Iodine. No need to eat steak or fish. If you run out of money for a multivitamin you can grab some nori sheets from the store for $5 in a pinch and eat 2-4 sheets per day. Just munch on them plain or make your own vegan sushi rolls or just tear them up and sprinkle like a topping over salad or steamed rice with some veggies. Yummy.
The emperor from Gladiator was not Julius Caesar, but Commodus
you and Wayne Hsiung are my heroes
It's human mouth but a vampire human, that's why the large canines lol 😁😁
Looks like vampire teeth 😆 if that's the teeth I'm supposed to have then my dentist did my veneers wrong 😆
Congrats on the degree! I was not wondering about it because I watched the recent "gap year" video of Stanford students, and learned that students do actual work when between degrees. I appreciate your evaluation of this video, which was surprisingly fair, and thank you for posting!
Thaaaanks! The crazy thing is I essentially did it without stopping, I just took way fewer classes each semester than most people do. 😅
Congratulations on your Masters! Love your debunk videos! Keep them coming!❤
I hounded those ASAP guys for years about veganism on all their social media. So I'm taking some credit for all this.
Congratulations on your degree and thank you for your videos 💚
Fun fact: I met the ASAPscience guys in the Toronto Subway once.
This has been said i'm sure but Joaquin Phoenix doesn't portray Ceasar in Gladiator. It's emperor Commodus, son of the famous stoic Marcus Aurelius.
On my TH-cam recommended videos a 2003 "documentary" called "The Perfect Human Diet - Exploring the obesity epidemic - full" popped up. I started watching and after watching 21 minutes really don't want to watch anymore. In the first 21 minutes it talks of indigenous folks who had adopted a western diet (sad) and became unhealthy encouraged to go back to their ancestors diet only to regain their health. Those ancestor diets were, you can guess, meat landen. If you can stomach watching it I would love to see you do a refutation of the video. That I would watch. Also I couldn't find where their funding for this "documentary" came from. You are a great researcher so perhaps you can get that info when I failed. Thanks for your great videos,!
Congratulations on finishing your MPH!
And thanks for all of your informative (and entertaining) videos!
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When it comes to science, there is no debate and there is no "balance". Data is the only thing that matters. The scientific data behind whole food plant based diets has been extensive and rock solid for DECADES. There is nothing to debate
Love your videos.I love your research style and presentation. Congratulations on finishing your degree. I’m sure you contributed so much to the program for everybody.
Also Isotope studies show early humans at large amounts of nuts and aquatic protein and less land-animal protein than usually claimed. Instead of "hunter-gatherer" we should've been called "fisher-gatherer". Sorry red-pill carnivore bro's.
Congratulations on your masters!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🍾🍾🍾🎈🎈🎈🎈🎊🎊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
And thank you for making these videos! ❤
That video by ASAP Science looks a lot like what Science Vs did a couple of months ago.
So why are most gut/digestive/colon problems solved when people switch to meat based diets?
Congrats on your Masters of Public Health! I have an Masters in Public Administration and am going back to school now to become an RD. So when you said it was a long process I could relate. Congrats!
Good job bud
Congratulations!!!! We are so proud of you!!!!
Congrats on your MPH. Keep up the good work brother. Former vegan dieter thinking about going back!!
Can you share why you stopped being vegan???
I'm not a troll/militant I'm on the path to being vegan and I'd like to know if there's things/mistakes that I can prepare for beforehand so I don't go back to eating APs.
@@witty_kitty when I first went vegan I struggled and only lasted 9 months. I wasn't eating enough calories. I went back to pescatarian for a few months but hated it because I knew what was happening to fish. So, I researched everything I could at the time. Recipes, how to eat at restaurants, and found vegan groups on Facebook. This helped me a lot because I wasn't so alone and I learned a lot from the others. It also got me into activism which only solidified my stance on ethics.
Seriously, you have it so easy these days. The information, products, and larger community didn't exist when I first went vegan.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
My canines are so insignificant, that they look like other teeth, like they are in no way pointy. 😂 I personally never saw "big" canines on a person, sometimes they at best are a little pointy and it looks like dracula teeth, especially when we were kids we were so interested in those things, never saw big canines, don't know why ppl use it as an argument at all 😅
I've never taken supplements. My b-12 labs were normal.
love your channel mic, thank you so much
Someone else has probably mentioned it but Joaquin Phoenix became vegan when he was three years old! Same time as his whole family.
That is what we call child abuse.
@@ryanhulme3303 You might call it that but you'd be wrong. Any medical professional will tell you that a vegan diet is suitable for humans at any stage of life unless they deny the science.
@@weirdunclebob Well I have sources from Oxford, Cambridge, the NHS and British government, even Harvard... all of which have concluded that veganism is an unhealthy diet. ANY diet that requires you to take supplements as a prerequisite... is by definition unhealthy. Can you comprehend that fact? Please address that point before you speak about anything else.
@@ryanhulme3303 Just to clarify, veganism is a moral philosophy not a diet. Vegans eat a plants-only diet sourced without harming or exploiting animals. That's the whole and sole purpose of veganism, to avoid harming and exploiting animals. Nothing more, nothing less.
Those very sources you cite state quite clearly that a well planned "vegan diet" is NOT an unhealthy diet and can even provide benefits that other diets cannot. Dig deeper and you'll find the facts. I often use the NHS's statement to back up my claims. I tried linking the NHS page but TH-cam doesn't like legitimate links so you'll have to look it up yourself. Just search NHS vegan statement and you'll see it.
As for supplements, vegans generally only need one: B12, and that's easily sourced by tablets, injections or fortified foods. Also, if you think supplements are a bad thing, you might want to research all the supplements that go into standard animal meat products in the animal Ag industry including B12. I think you'll be surprised at what the industry has to do to make their "products" legal to sell.
Enjoy your research. May it make you a better person!
Thanks so much for doing this video, love your channel
Thank you for the accurate info Mike! (Btw I sent you a quick message on Instagram, let me know if it went through :)
Congrats Mic! Well done on MPH! And thanks for the great research summaries and commentaries as always. Every success.
So glad you're still doing great work!
Re sources of B12
Sea-buckthorn in Germany at least
where it is called Sanddorn
is available in jam and chocolate flavourings
It is ubiquitous.
I suspect it is a common as
Northern Germany and Northern Poland
basically have a lot of sandy soil
and they grow well especially in the coastal areas.
Congratulations on achieving your Masters! The world will definitely benefit from your hard work. 👍 On the other hand, Niceberg. Really? 🤨 Great video Mic.
Getting an MPH doesn't mean I have been medically treated for my pun affliction lolll
2 of my fav science channels... Beefing 😭
Do a video on food waste
The Biggest Lie About Veganism: It's healthy! Grab you a ton of supplements and pretend your slice o' watermelon is steak OR just get you one nice, juicy, rare rib eye! Real cheese sauce is optional, butter is not!
Congrats 🎉
Was waiting for you to cover this...
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Time to start pickling parsley! I actually think this'll work well, mixed in with some other veg in my ferments.
Great video man, that other dude probably going vegan anytime haha
Definitely one of the "better" videos about Veganism from a popular non-food channel.
Thanks for the clean up Mic.
Also maybe these big Channels are afraid of going full truth about Veganism. This for the average Viewer at least looks neutral.
Full truth about veganism is it completely denies the mountain of evidence for plant intelligence.
Personally, consume whatever you want. But, I always find it funny when you put a plant intelligence study in front of a vegan. The excuses are absolutely beautiful. 😂
It's a pro animal religious movement, and they're free to do it. They're not free from reality, though.
Congrats on mastering getting your masters in a masterful way! Your ambitions and consistency are truly inspiring. Onward
MPH Mic drop!
Seriously, you earned it and probably learned more than your peers. Next on to your PHD….. or at least a Post Hole Digger for fence building in order to keep the deer out of your garden.
Congratulations on graduating Mike!
Congrats on the master's degree!!!!!
Been on seed for a month now and I LOVE them, just saying.