Fun fact ; Omega uses Rhodium for the dial hands and the hour markers while Rolex uses white gold. Rhodium is twice the value of platinum, and platinum is roughly 40% more valuable than white gold. So it seems Omega uses better precious metals for the dial hardware. Another fun fact, the omega crystal is domed, while the Rolex is flat. Omega has two layers of anti-reflective coating (inside and out) while the rolex has coating only on the inside. Omega has open caseback to show the movement tech while, rolex has a closed back. Role's bezel is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to operate than the Omega, it also sounds much better than Omega's. It is said that the Oystersteel used on the rolex casing and bracelet is a better blend than the proprietary used on the Omega. Overall this was a fair video. Omega has 35 jewles in the movement (plus the co-axial escaptement) while Rolex has 31 jewels. This means there is slightly less friction happening in the omega, and a much longer interval for servicing. The summary is that Rolex has the prestige/hype/brand recognition and value retention, while Omega has the better technology/specs and value for money. Im personally an Omega kinda guy, but i see also many strong reasons for the Rolex as well. Whichever one you get, you'll be pleased.
I personally own a Omega SeaMaster and a Submariner. I wear my Omega 90% of the time due to it being more comfortable and the fact that even though I have owned the watch for only 7 months I still cant stop staring at it. I just bought the green dial Omega for myself. Thinking about selling the Rolex.
More comfortable? Are you insane? How can you compare the thick, heavy borderline sharp edges of the Omega bracelet with no taper to the silky smooth Oyster bracelet ? Not to mention the known issue with the Omega clasp getting jammed up! So don’t know WTF you’re on about here 🙄
Seamaster PO wearer 👍: As a US Navy Submariner, the Rolex Sub saturates the community however the Seamaster is a unique find, adding an element of sophistication not otherwise found. Hard to top Rolex, but Omega is more affordable with more style options. Omega’s for me! 👏🏼🙌🏼🎉🎊 Great vid, excellent review, Jenni! 👏🏼🙌🏼👍
Great video! I bought into the Rolex BS and bought a Submariner in 2007 as my MBA graduation gift to myself. After years of people asking me if it was real, noticing every try hard in the office had the exact same watch as me, and then finally coming to the reality that the Submariner really is not that attractive of a watch, and finally getting tired of losing time and being five minutes late by the end of the month; I finally sold it in 2021 and bought both the new Seamaster 300m (black) and the Planet Ocean (royal blue). These two Omega watches are hands down better products than the Submariner. Not only are they both incredibly accurate and I have never once lost time (8800 movement 300m, 8900 movement PO), they are just better looking and attractive watches that wear better on my wrist. The Rolex bracelet would occasionally pull hairs out of my arm and I felt like it was a now-and-then torture device. I put an Artem Hydroflex strap on my black 300m and it just makes that watch pop. I typically rotate them to where I wear one for a month, throw it in the safe, and then wear the other the next month. Nobody has ever asked me are they fake, and I have had many comments on my two Omega's especially the beautiful blue planet Ocean. Lastly, and probably most importantly is the maintenance on these watches. Rolex charges $1,200 to maintenance their watches while Omega is around $600-$800. That's a steep difference IMHO and people don't think about the long-term costs of the brand. Trust me, when I got the bill from the first time I serviced my Submariner I actually put the watch in the safe for months because I did not want to pay that cost. I of course finally did but was absolutely shocked. Bottom line Omega makes a better product for half the price.
Excellent side by side comparison and having owned and worn both of these watches for years imo this is arguably one of the fairest product vs product reviews I have ever seen. And one I agree with wholeheartedly. The intangibles are where things get fuzzy... how does a watch and a brand make you feel are highly personal. As is the "wart" on the Omega vs. the "cyclops" on the Sub. Also the price and the purchasing experience is vastly different, I prefer the Omega one, but I do understand why some people might prefer the perceived exclusivity of the Rolex. Functionally both watches are exceptional and owning either is a pleasure. Owning both is even better. Fwiw, I own neither of these any longer. I swapped my Sub for a Sea Dweller which fits my large frame better and I just recently sold my 300M in preparation for securing the Omega's 300M NTTD Titanium variant - why? Over years of wearing I found that the two variations from each company respectively better suit me. Exceptional video Jenni - I appreciate your content.
My year old Rolex Sea Dweller 126600 just came back from the RSC. It was losing about 16 seconds per day. There is much discussion out there about timing issues with the 3235 movement. The day I got it back I sold it back to the original seller and bought a SM300 and a Speedmaster without taking a single penny out of my pocket.
Hype led Rolex to hold value better but it seems that the new Rolex Chronergy calibres can’t keep time correctly for long periods because of these amplitude problems…
It's always nice to revisit the ongoing rivalry between Seamaster and Submariner. Appreciate this style of review; chill, factual, and with many on wrist shots. IMHO, you're a pro and among the best reviewers.
Regarding value retention, if you want to buy a Rolex sub from an AD, most likely you’ll have to purchase some other craps first, which end you up losing money. If you are purchasing from the grey market, you will have to pay a premium for it, and that ends up losing value too.
Mr Seaweed. You don't need to necessarily buy the other crap. You can bribe the manager with cash (all currencies considered), or could offer sports tickets or access to Taylor Swifts backdoor entrance.
I brought in my submariner to have the pearl pip replaced a couple weeks ago. My wrist felt naked without it, so I bought a seamaster to fill the void while my sub is in for service. I have to say, two weeks on the wrist with the seamaster, it’s really an excellent watch!
Bought my Seamaster (with the blue dial) in 2000 for $1,250, or around $2,300 in today’s dollars. It’s the only luxury watch I own anymore even though my Apple Watch has replaced it as my daily watch. Still, in its time I wore this watch with tuxedos, to court, to the gym and in the ocean. Great watch.
13:05 i pretty agree with your assessment except i would have given finishing to Omega too. The laser etched wave pattern and sapphire case back just take it to another level. Plus the unmagnified date at 6 just looks so much better for me
Except she missed the most important factor. The wearability and comfort comparison. You cannot compare the both of them when it comes to comfort, wearability and design. The Rolex is leagues ahead of the Omega. I’ve owned both and the Submariner Date is much light, thinner and bracelet just drapes around your wrist unlike the thick, chunky, heavy and borderline sharp Omega bracelet with no taper.
The Rolex is a magnet for thugs, thieves and criminals so I’d rather steer clear unless I was looking to get into fights with these low lifes… This must also be considered.
When i bought my SMP300 2 years ago i compared it against the Speedmaster. If you want a Rolex a Omega is no replacement imo! BTW the SMP300 is an outstanding watch with a impressive presence on the wrist. I personally own it as my only expensive watch next to my G-Shock, PRX and Seiko 5. The most important thing before buying a SMP300 is to see the dial colors in person and comparing the rubber against the bracelet. Don‘t be afraid to ask. Omega is always very polite to their customers!
Omega such a better movement - Long time Rolex owner of over 5 watches and my favorite, BUT for the value, quality and decent availability the better bang for your dollars is Omega.. just my two cents worth... Cheers :-)
I am lucky to own watches from both brands. Seamaster on a leather strap is my urban diver. The sub is now just a meme - but the oyster bracelet is probably the best of any brand. Main issue with Rolex is they are increasingly a target for violent street attacks in capital cities.
Great review! Having owned both brands over the years, personally I prefer Omega as a brand. I also feel certain that Omega has had a more significant and greater impact on the history of high horology. Of course style is very subjective, and the Submariner is truly hard to beat from a design perspective. Rolex were smart to stay true to the original 50s design all these years. The original 50s Seamaster is on par with the Submariner but in my opinion it lost its way in the 70s & 80s. I feel the Seamaster is getting closer aesthetically to being on par with the Submariner. But the non-tapered 80’s style bracelet kills me every time I see it.
Omega was a regular competitor at observatory timekeeping competition hence they have a checkered history in high horology. I do not know if Rolex participated although they may have given they won some medals too… Which brand participated more, outperformed the other, etc… no idea 😉
Omega really packs a punch for it's cost. Honestly a great piece of machinery. The only gripe I have on the Seamaster is the bezel is a tad bit tough to rotate if your fingers are dry or wet.
You are paying Omega thousands for the same movement Swatch puts in a million other watches, at a much lower price… not to mention even homage and micro brands! They claim to have Co-Axial, on where they take a high beat ETA, and turned it into a pig so that it beats slower for longer service intervals! 😂
I wish Omega made this watch at 40mm. Also, it may be worth looking at comparison's that are weighted to reflect the importance of certain aspects. Like I would give more value to design, finish, iconic-ness, accuracy/movement, resale-and less value to availability, box, and power reserve, etc. I like both watches and have owned each, but some aspects of each watch are more relevant than others.
Thx as always. Interesting method of comparison. In tech when we look at buying an application and selecting the winner from competing vendors, we put a ‘weight’ factor on the categories - box would probably be 5% compared to 20 or 25% for finish and movement.
I wouldnt have cared if those two watches swapped their logo. I just love the timeless mid century vintage look which the Rolex Sub happened to have. And no one can beat Omega’s very own Speedy in that department.
lol what makes you think omega is regret and sorrow? SURE if you want a rolex then buys omega of course you will regret it, same with every other case out there.
My experience with Omega and availability has been excellent. When I wanted to get a new Deep Black, the local boutique did not have any in stock. So what did they do? They hunted one down and had it delivered within 5 business days.
I have both these watches and I prefer wearing the Omega over my Sub, it just appeals to my tastes more. The movement and the sapphire case back just make the Omega a cooler looking watch. Rolex are brilliant watches, but I just feel they are getting a bit boring. I always seem to be glancing at the Omega as it just looks so nice, but when I wear the Sub I only look at it if I need to know the time.
I agree with all her points. I own 4 rolexes and 2 omegas. Quite love all six watches for different reasons. Currently wearing the Omega seamaster 300M seaweed
I bought my white dial 300m last year after being jerked around by multiple Rolex ADs over the last few years. Walked across the hotel lobby from the Rolex AD into the Omega boutique and have never looked back.
If Omega could drop the case diameter and thickness, and have better looking bracelet that also tapers, that would be my choice. Currently too big for my wrist. I've tried it on, it's huge. Another thing... I'm generally not a fan of textured dials, but that wave pattern dial really adds to the character of the watch. I like it.
I agree! I like the sea master so much but I tried it on today and it sits so big on my wrist! I also don’t love the bracelet. It’s so important to try watches on before you buy.
Omega has a mesh bracelet that I think is a must have for the Seamaster. Bracelet can be bought from Omega for $760 USD. The watch and mesh bracelet were made for each other. In fact, some of the 007 editions of the Seamaster use that bracelet.
@@Matys1975I currently have it on rubber not a fan of the original metal bracelet. The mesh looks nice, but 2 things that turn me off, is the gap between the lugs where the bracelet connects to the watch and the pretty significant bulge that forms at the clasp
One big disadvantage of the co-axial movement: it’s way too bulky than others. Realistically, two or three more years of service interval is a trivial benefit compared to the discomfort from 2mm thicker case for most users.
If both watches were priced the same, I’d give Rolex the edge. I bought a grey market 42.5 mm planet ocean for 4 K less than I paid for a submariner at retail. Given the 300 M’s similar specs at a much better price, it is the winner in my mind.
Jenni. Nice video. It's great to see you trying to be fair, but we all know you love Rolex. Perhaps you should have compared the Planet Ocean 38.5mm against the R? I would make different calls on your score system, and with the Rolex you do have the risk of theft and physical injury, as well as some Rolex people aren't the nicest. They really enjoy waving about, in your face, thinking you're going green with envy. I just sit quietly and enjoy either my OMG PO or my Pelagos. Please remember, your watch choice should never make anyone else feel less, for you wearing it?
TH-cam commentators do not like Rolex, which is not surprising due to the supply situation. To my experience, only a few of these people are die-hard Omega fans, while the majority of them are on a list for a Rolex but simply got frustrated while waiting (which I can totally understand - I‘ve been there too!).
Seamaster, hands down. The Sub is timeless and legendary, but having a $10k dinger on your wrist all the time is nerve racking. A $6k dinger isn’t much better but the character and design of that bezel and dial, hands and bracelet, there’s just nothing like it.
I recently had to decide between these two for myself, I ended up going with the Omega as I think its a much more interesting watch. The details on the dial, the movement, the bracelet looks cool (IMO), even the helium escape valve is pretty unique. I don't regret my choice for a second. I personally think the Sub overall is a bit bland... However, I now want a Rolex OP which is arguably the blandest watch they make...
Plus you can’t buy the Submariner. I bought the Omega as a revenge purchase, I would have bought it anyway but really wanted the submariner right then..
Have both love both. Smp blue ss/sedna on strap is more comfy, sporty, and bold. Rolex bluesy is cleaner, gets noticed way more, and is as much jewelry as it is a watch. Was definitely able to get the smp first😂
Jenni! Your energy is just infectious! When it comes to Rolex vs omega the answer is always Rolex! 😝 Omega box and packaging puts Rolex to SHAME!!!! BUUUUUT Rolex bracelet game & wearing experience is just too good! But hey, that’s just one gals opinion!!
Nice video and fair comparison, well done. But honestly I am personally struggling to compare the two. Beside functionalities that I would say are similar, one is undoubtedly much more beautiful than the other, in all means. When you put it together on the screen it gets so so obvious… I don’t say which one because the reader knows already
if you want to wear it everyday, wear the one that technically better because it is more of a tool watch, if you want brand and recognition, my opinion is to go for the other one! both is a very good watch
I have a Rolex Sub Date and a Batgirl, but I am drawn to the new Seamaster Diver 300M. I started my watch journey buying the Bond Seamaster Blue dial/bezel made famous by Brosnan. I still have that after replacing the bezel once. I love that watch, but it is a quartz. I am supposedly on the wait list for a Rolex Daytona, but I don't think I will ever get that call. This newer Seamaster Diver 300M is calling my name to finish out my collection. Great video!
Excellent review. Really well presented. Thank you. The Omega is the clear winner based on your assessment. I would add that the availability issue should be weighted 2X or 3X. That said, I opted for the Grand Seiko SLGA023 “Ushio” for my diver. I have an 8” wrist and wanted a watch with larger dimensions.
I have the SMP300 and I love it. I like the Sub, but not enough to pay 10k for it lol, for that you could get an SMP 300 and have the better part of an Aqua Terra paid for to go with it. Easy decision.
My wife got me a Seamaster for Christmas couple years ago. Always thought I would be a Sub guy, turns out, no, it was love at first sight of that wave dial. This year she got me the bond style Milanese, compliments non stop ever since. Next stop, vintage constellation.
Good video, but an important point: the timing diversion for the rolex movement is less than the omega. Doesn’t matter if it loses time, -/+2 is 4 seconds and -/+6 is well, 6. That means the potential for accuracy is higher with rolex than omega and after a month would, on paper, be higher (though there are a lot of variables). I think you should have given it to rolex which changes the winner
Different philosophy between the two. Rolex with -/+2 has the potential to lose a lot of seconds in one month if the watch, albeit very unlikely, always loses seconds. On the other hand, Omega pledges that their watches will never run late. While Rolex strives for the highest accuracy possible for their watch with the risk of being late, Omega chooses to be more practical in regulating their movement to not lose time, as most people prefer their watches to advance rather than run late.
I own both. The new Rolex mvmt is garbage at keeping time. I’ve lost minutes per month and had it regulated on warranty twice. This is par for the new 3235 mvmt and is in need in modifications. It’s not just the sub, but ALL the 3235 mvmt lines (DJ41, SD 43…). Omega still keeping time almost as good as the Grand Seiko
Rolex has not introduced anything innovative as of lately. Sure the sun is now 41 mm and the power reserve increased, however omega is very antimagnetic many times more than a Rolex Milgauss and it’s iridium plated. Rolex has been riding on the wave of their name for too long. They are doing dishonest practices of cutting back production and now they are selling used Rolex at the authorized dealers.
Even when I prefer Rolex as a brand, in the battle of the subs I have to admit that Omega wins this one. Only thing... Go with the rubber strap! Despite the great quality of Omega watches they still can't make a steel strap as good as Rolex.
Thanks for this comparaison easy to follow with 7 good features. I hope there will be more in the future, i have some suggestions if you want. I agree with your verdict. Buying this SM300 on the grey market (with a 20% discount on retail price) seems to be a lever solution.
Seamaster wears chunky. Bracelet lacks taper, the clasp is huge, and the height is tall. Wearability is a huge factor and should be given more weight than say, a nice box. Submariner does everything just right.
A small but important detail: the Omega box contains a travel case for the watch, located below the leather base. Until now, I've never seen a presentation mentioning this.
If you take the bracelets off each watch Omega polishes both sides of the lugs and between them, Rolex doesn’t. The case back of the Omega is also better finished than the Submariner. You should do some TH-cam searches about how badly finished some Rolex’s are at the moment, they’re everywhere.
Jenni. love your channel. The JLC Master SECTOR DIAL is the prettiest and classiest watch under $15,000 you can buy, IMO. It's my next watch if I can find one. Are these limited run?
I have both, personally i much prefer the Rolex. The seamaster is a little more bulky and less refined than the rolex. Even thinking of selling the seamaster
Would like to see a comparison between the Sub no-date and the post 2021 Seamaster 300 Heritage. The Heritage now has the (fabulous) 8912 movement in it, it's slimmer than the previous model and has a more elegant tapered bracelet with brushed centre links. It's still just under 1mm thicker then the Sub, but it does have a display back and a domed crystal which accounts for that. Value retention aside, I think it's a nicer watch in every respect. Rolex are to launch two new factories in 2025 to greatly increase production, will be interesting to see what happens to values when you can walk into any dealer and buy one.
I’ve always thought the planet ocean is a better contender to go up against the sub. The SM300 feels more like a Yaight master contender - ie. It’s the sister version of the daddy watch (planet ocean).
The design of the Seamaster is phenomenal. It's just a really beautiful watch. In my humble opinion, the place Omega loses a tonne of sales is in its size - 42mm is just too big for a huge number of people. And now that watches are finally getting smaller again, that problem is just getting worse and worse for Omega. Scale it down, improve the clasp and take my money. Simple.
@@rickhammel9541 everybody focuses on wrist circumference e.g. 7", nobody focuses on wrist WIDTH, you might only have a 6.5" wrist but 70mm width because your wrist might be flatter than round, this allows you to wear considerably larger watches. My point is I think we are all using the wrong metric for wrist dimension. Circumference is important for straps, width is more relevant fo lug-to-lug.
@@mytuberforyou yes, I think I fall into the camp of a wider, flatter wrist. 40mm is about as small as I can go, I think the proper fit for everyone is to try and get the lugs to taper with the wrist, whatever size that may be. It just looks odd to me to see the lugs fall on the wrist and there's still an inch to the edge of it.
@@rickhammel9541 The trouble is that most men don’t have a wrist size of 7”. Average male wrist circumference is 6.79”. And roughly half of all men are smaller than that. Rolex sizes are better suited to the majority of men. 40mm suits nearly everyone in a dive watch, so long as the lugs are well proportioned. I have an older 41.5mm SMP from 2015 and it hardly gets any wrist time anymore on my 6.75” wrist - there are far better fitting options available, not least from Rolex.
great vid....only a dream for me to own either but dreams are free...I have a few really nice watches but nothing on this scale..They include JAG , Oskar Emil and Rip Curl.Jenni seemed very knowledgeable and friendly which added to the video..Thanks
I know for all intents and purposes, the Omega is the better offering. Sadly though ... it never did it for me. It's too large, I don't like the overall shape and some of its details. The bracelet looks pretty awkward and too "busy". Same goes for the hands which I also never liked. I'm also not too fond of its see-through caseback. I know why they put it there, but I don't think it has a place on a dive-watch. However: Seeing what Omega give you for a much more reasonable price, it really puts the price of the Rolex to shame. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I had the funds laying around and, more importantly, if I could just walk into an AD and simply put those funds on the table. But I'd be the first to acknowledge that the Rolex is ludicrously overpriced these days.
i like rolex, but every time i see someone wearing one i ask "is it a real one?" i just assume off the bat it was purchased on holiday in turkey. this is why i bought the seamaster. if i was going to wear a fake watch i wouldnt wear an omega so in my mind it just gave it a greater level of authenticity
Sound logic, but a fake watch, you'e only fooling yourself. Also guessing you're from Europe. In the US, Turkey and China are long way for fakes. I love Rolex and know my watches are real / could afford them. The only thing that matters is what I think.
Nice video thanks for doing the review and comparison. I really want to love the omega but it’s hard for me because of the design of the case and the extra crown on the left side of the case, the helium escape valve. The reason that the submariner is a classic and the go to, for most watch aficionados is because of the timeless design of the watch the case and the bracelet! And that’s why I have a submariner!!! Did I mention that the longer you hold onto it , it just keeps on going up in value? Not to change gears here, but I do like the omega moon watch. The simple one that has the leather strap. Nothing too fancy…. So for me, it’s a clear choice if you’ve always wanted a Rolex submariner do not settle because you will not be happy.! on the other hand, if the Omega Seamaster floats your boat, then dive away !
Hi Jenni, one point that usually nobody compare is the dial color and accessory range between SeaM and SubM. You can call it “Original Equipment Range” or “customization”. Omega offer many dial colors, and Rolex just black. Omega offer many different original solutions between metal bracelet, rubber strap, or Nato, or Leather. Directly from Omega Original catalogue. And Rolex? Metal bracelet or…nothing else. In this way Omega can satisfy all the customer taste and needs (different occasion, different outfit,…) with a watch that remain “Omega original” in every part . 1 Point for Omega 😂
Excellent job Jenni, you nailed it as always. Great in-depth review and detailed comparison, and as subjective as possible. As the owner of a '97 16610 Rolex Submariner, it has been an exceptional timepiece and a joy to wear. However, I am a HUGE Omega fan, owning several vintage Seamaster models, but not a Seamaster 300. Six months ago I wore a 300 for two days with the prospect of adding it to my collection. Unfortunately, I did not find the Seamaster particularly comfortable and difficult to read. It came down to aesthetics, and looks for me. I found the wavy pattern dial too busy to read, and the sword hands too trendy to read quickly, especially under water. When is comes to value though, the Seamaster 300 beats the Submariner all day long. The direct Omega comparison in my book is the Seamaster Planet Ocean 2200.50.00, which would come up short against the Submariner, however, I have found a complete kit recently that I plan to purchase.
Quite a fair comparison, but I would add that the Submariner is the most iconic watch design ever made no a joy to wear, with almost perfect proportions and bracelet design. On the other hand the Seamaster is slightly too big, with a pointless ugly helium escape valve and a bracelet that doesn’t taper.
Correct.. the Seamaster bracelet is borderline sharp with a known clasp issue. After owning both the Rolex is leagues ahead in comfort, wearability, versatility and prestige.
Submariner: 26 polished sections, 9 brushed sections. Seamaster: 63 polished sections, 16 brushed sections. Of course people give the edge to Rolex for finishing, there's so much less needing finishing to begin with and it's just linear brushing and flat polishing. Best in class, sure, but that's too easy a win.
I have a Rolexgmtll, Omega 600 crono,and Breitling Super Ocean 44. I bought the Rolex in 1990. It sets in the safe. Breitling is my daily watch. Love your channel, too!❤❤
I don't think the finishing category is fairly graded. I think it should have been a draw. Rolex has a way better bracelet that feels better finished to me. It also has an infinitely better clasp (although, does the clasp really fall under a "finishing" category or more "design/function"? 🤔). On the other hand, the SMP 300 has a better finished case with the insane beveling work on those beautifully finished lyre lugs including the chamfering work. This finishing creates a combination of polished and brushed surfaces which is just gorgeous. It's definitely a step above the straight polished slab of metal on the sub with it's plain lugs. So ultimately you have the submariner with a much better finished bracelet and the SMP with a better finished case. Honestly, I couldn't pick one. Definitely a tie for me.
My sub is bigger than the first round of 41mm versions. I thought I was tripping but you said it here. The latter versions are different 6:11 The previous 41mm was more rectangular. Mine is more circular.
Had you actually worn the watches you would have come to two unique realizations. A) The larger crown found on the Rolex makes it far easier to use and manipulate with cold, wet, and or lightly gloved hands, B) the Omega‘s crystal is coated with anti-reflective material on both surfaces and it scratches quite easily, C) The Submariner doesn’t have a helium escape valve but you can simply unscrew the crown during your week long decompression.
Fun fact ; Omega uses Rhodium for the dial hands and the hour markers while Rolex uses white gold. Rhodium is twice the value of platinum, and platinum is roughly 40% more valuable than white gold. So it seems Omega uses better precious metals for the dial hardware. Another fun fact, the omega crystal is domed, while the Rolex is flat. Omega has two layers of anti-reflective coating (inside and out) while the rolex has coating only on the inside. Omega has open caseback to show the movement tech while, rolex has a closed back. Role's bezel is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to operate than the Omega, it also sounds much better than Omega's. It is said that the Oystersteel used on the rolex casing and bracelet is a better blend than the proprietary used on the Omega. Overall this was a fair video. Omega has 35 jewles in the movement (plus the co-axial escaptement) while Rolex has 31 jewels. This means there is slightly less friction happening in the omega, and a much longer interval for servicing. The summary is that Rolex has the prestige/hype/brand recognition and value retention, while Omega has the better technology/specs and value for money. Im personally an Omega kinda guy, but i see also many strong reasons for the Rolex as well. Whichever one you get, you'll be pleased.
One uses 904l steel and another uses 316l
Rolex uses AR coating just on the inside deliberately because on the outside it will deteriorate
AR coating on the outside isn't a good thing.
Is it full rhodium or just rhodium plated? Because that's quite different, lots of things are rhodium plated.
904l has more nickel, so good luck with your incoming allergies 🙌
I personally own a Omega SeaMaster and a Submariner. I wear my Omega 90% of the time due to it being more comfortable and the fact that even though I have owned the watch for only 7 months I still cant stop staring at it. I just bought the green dial Omega for myself. Thinking about selling the Rolex.
More comfortable? Are you insane? How can you compare the thick, heavy borderline sharp edges of the Omega bracelet with no taper to the silky smooth Oyster bracelet ? Not to mention the known issue with the Omega clasp getting jammed up! So don’t know WTF you’re on about here 🙄
Same here ! Love green dials
How did you put yourself into a position to afford these watches?
@@jamesfernandes2842 I have no credit card debt, my home is paid off and our vehicles are paid off. I save for my watches.
@@jamesfernandes2842 work, I guess
I have an Omega Seamaster 300m Blue and a Rolex Submariner Date 41. I love them both. Each has pluses and minuses.
Seamaster PO wearer 👍: As a US Navy Submariner, the Rolex Sub saturates the community however the Seamaster is a unique find, adding an element of sophistication not otherwise found. Hard to top Rolex, but Omega is more affordable with more style options. Omega’s for me! 👏🏼🙌🏼🎉🎊 Great vid, excellent review, Jenni! 👏🏼🙌🏼👍
@@IDKline LOL. Or fancy sport cars! 😂🤣 Usually coners, E6 and above. 😳😎☺️
This retired Senior Chief will stick with his GShock.
Interesting. I always saw the Seamaster as a JO watch in the surface community. Nonetheless, that watch will treat you well
Bigger wrist. Smaller wrist. Choose wisely.
The Omega box also contains a bonus travel case underneath the top cover if you lift it up!
that's the speedmaster, not the seamaster
@@albertd2224 no. both
@@albertd2224Both ( I have both so I can confirm)
@@albertd2224 Nope, my Seamaster has it..
Holy crap I've had the watch for 6 months and I just discovered this because of you! :D ty!
Great video!
I bought into the Rolex BS and bought a Submariner in 2007 as my MBA graduation gift to myself. After years of people asking me if it was real, noticing every try hard in the office had the exact same watch as me, and then finally coming to the reality that the Submariner really is not that attractive of a watch, and finally getting tired of losing time and being five minutes late by the end of the month; I finally sold it in 2021 and bought both the new Seamaster 300m (black) and the Planet Ocean (royal blue).
These two Omega watches are hands down better products than the Submariner. Not only are they both incredibly accurate and I have never once lost time (8800 movement 300m, 8900 movement PO), they are just better looking and attractive watches that wear better on my wrist. The Rolex bracelet would occasionally pull hairs out of my arm and I felt like it was a now-and-then torture device. I put an Artem Hydroflex strap on my black 300m and it just makes that watch pop. I typically rotate them to where I wear one for a month, throw it in the safe, and then wear the other the next month.
Nobody has ever asked me are they fake, and I have had many comments on my two Omega's especially the beautiful blue planet Ocean.
Lastly, and probably most importantly is the maintenance on these watches. Rolex charges $1,200 to maintenance their watches while Omega is around $600-$800. That's a steep difference IMHO and people don't think about the long-term costs of the brand. Trust me, when I got the bill from the first time I serviced my Submariner I actually put the watch in the safe for months because I did not want to pay that cost. I of course finally did but was absolutely shocked.
Bottom line Omega makes a better product for half the price.
Welcome to the fold! We've been expecting you!
Excellent side by side comparison and having owned and worn both of these watches for years imo this is arguably one of the fairest product vs product reviews I have ever seen. And one I agree with wholeheartedly. The intangibles are where things get fuzzy... how does a watch and a brand make you feel are highly personal. As is the "wart" on the Omega vs. the "cyclops" on the Sub. Also the price and the purchasing experience is vastly different, I prefer the Omega one, but I do understand why some people might prefer the perceived exclusivity of the Rolex. Functionally both watches are exceptional and owning either is a pleasure. Owning both is even better. Fwiw, I own neither of these any longer. I swapped my Sub for a Sea Dweller which fits my large frame better and I just recently sold my 300M in preparation for securing the Omega's 300M NTTD Titanium variant - why? Over years of wearing I found that the two variations from each company respectively better suit me. Exceptional video Jenni - I appreciate your content.
My year old Rolex Sea Dweller 126600 just came back from the RSC. It was losing about 16 seconds per day. There is much discussion out there about timing issues with the 3235 movement. The day I got it back I sold it back to the original seller and bought a SM300 and a Speedmaster without taking a single penny out of my pocket.
you couldn't of done that the other way around. Rolex just holds its value.
Hype led Rolex to hold value better but it seems that the new Rolex Chronergy calibres can’t keep time correctly for long periods because of these amplitude problems…
It's always nice to revisit the ongoing rivalry between Seamaster and Submariner. Appreciate this style of review; chill, factual, and with many on wrist shots. IMHO, you're a pro and among the best reviewers.
Regarding value retention, if you want to buy a Rolex sub from an AD, most likely you’ll have to purchase some other craps first, which end you up losing money. If you are purchasing from the grey market, you will have to pay a premium for it, and that ends up losing value too.
You are indeed well informed. I'm very pleased to see that not everyone is following the hype.
Not anymore
Mr Seaweed. You don't need to necessarily buy the other crap. You can bribe the manager with cash (all currencies considered), or could offer sports tickets or access to Taylor Swifts backdoor entrance.
@@ekimandersom4478yup, not been like that for nearly a year.
I brought in my submariner to have the pearl pip replaced a couple weeks ago. My wrist felt naked without it, so I bought a seamaster to fill the void while my sub is in for service. I have to say, two weeks on the wrist with the seamaster, it’s really an excellent watch!
rich bastard.
Bought my Seamaster (with the blue dial) in 2000 for $1,250, or around $2,300 in today’s dollars. It’s the only luxury watch I own anymore even though my Apple Watch has replaced it as my daily watch. Still, in its time I wore this watch with tuxedos, to court, to the gym and in the ocean. Great watch.
The electric ⚡️ blue dual, I have one as well, it’s a daily beater to swanky dinner watch, love it on vacation.
13:05 i pretty agree with your assessment except i would have given finishing to Omega too. The laser etched wave pattern and sapphire case back just take it to another level. Plus the unmagnified date at 6 just looks so much better for me
Agreed.
Bought Omega few day's ago, it feels awesome, looks amazing, can't tak eyes off😅
if Jenni had a Casio Duro in for review she'd have to get Rolex in the video title somehow. 😂😂
"How a $49 Casio Duro Compares to a $9,000 Rolex Submariner: Surprising Revelations!"
Jenni, I am impressed with the quality of this review. Unbiased and very in depth. Good job!
Except she missed the most important factor. The wearability and comfort comparison. You cannot compare the both of them when it comes to comfort, wearability and design. The Rolex is leagues ahead of the Omega. I’ve owned both and the Submariner Date is much light, thinner and bracelet just drapes around your wrist unlike the thick, chunky, heavy and borderline sharp Omega bracelet with no taper.
The Rolex is a magnet for thugs, thieves and criminals so I’d rather steer clear unless I was looking to get into fights with these low lifes… This must also be considered.
When i bought my SMP300 2 years ago i compared it against the Speedmaster. If you want a Rolex a Omega is no replacement imo!
BTW the SMP300 is an outstanding watch with a impressive presence on the wrist. I personally own it as my only expensive watch next to my G-Shock, PRX and Seiko 5.
The most important thing before buying a SMP300 is to see the dial colors in person and comparing the rubber against the bracelet.
Don‘t be afraid to ask. Omega is always very polite to their customers!
Omega is always grand to their customers. We cannot say the same from Rolex really…
Omega such a better movement - Long time Rolex owner of over 5 watches and my favorite, BUT for the value, quality and decent availability the better bang for your dollars is Omega.. just my two cents worth... Cheers :-)
I am lucky to own watches from both brands. Seamaster on a leather strap is my urban diver. The sub is now just a meme - but the oyster bracelet is probably the best of any brand. Main issue with Rolex is they are increasingly a target for violent street attacks in capital cities.
Great review! Having owned both brands over the years, personally I prefer Omega as a brand. I also feel certain that Omega has had a more significant and greater impact on the history of high horology.
Of course style is very subjective, and the Submariner is truly hard to beat from a design perspective. Rolex were smart to stay true to the original 50s design all these years. The original 50s Seamaster is on par with the Submariner but in my opinion it lost its way in the 70s & 80s. I feel the Seamaster is getting closer aesthetically to being on par with the Submariner. But the non-tapered 80’s style bracelet kills me every time I see it.
High horology😮
Best Omega is the Speedy. There are 2 icons of the tool watch world... the Sub and the Speedy. That is all.
Omega was a regular competitor at observatory timekeeping competition hence they have a checkered history in high horology. I do not know if Rolex participated although they may have given they won some medals too… Which brand participated more, outperformed the other, etc… no idea 😉
Aren’t both of these part of the permanent design exhibition at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, NYC ?
Omega really packs a punch for it's cost. Honestly a great piece of machinery. The only gripe I have on the Seamaster is the bezel is a tad bit tough to rotate if your fingers are dry or wet.
You are paying Omega thousands for the same movement Swatch puts in a million other watches, at a much lower price… not to mention even homage and micro brands! They claim to have Co-Axial, on where they take a high beat ETA, and turned it into a pig so that it beats slower for longer service intervals! 😂
“…fingers are dry or wet.” There’s a third option?
@@acamposjr06 Yea when it's slightly moist, it is the best grip.
Which other brands have the same Omega co-axial calibres ? Please list these. There are none.
I wish Omega made this watch at 40mm. Also, it may be worth looking at comparison's that are weighted to reflect the importance of certain aspects. Like I would give more value to design, finish, iconic-ness, accuracy/movement, resale-and less value to availability, box, and power reserve, etc. I like both watches and have owned each, but some aspects of each watch are more relevant than others.
42 is perfect!
Wonderful! Very fair "cross-review". And I totally agree, Seamaster wins. But I will always prefer the Sub! 😂
Thx as always. Interesting method of comparison. In tech when we look at buying an application and selecting the winner from competing vendors, we put a ‘weight’ factor on the categories - box would probably be 5% compared to 20 or 25% for finish and movement.
I was looking forward to your take on the new Omegas. (I choose the Seamaster)
I wouldnt have cared if those two watches swapped their logo. I just love the timeless mid century vintage look which the Rolex Sub happened to have. And no one can beat Omega’s very own Speedy in that department.
I love Omega, probably my favorite brand out there. But the Sub aesthetic/design is hard to beat.
Everyone has ripped it off already. Kinda exhausting to see at this point
Omega, is a reliable watch. But it does not project "successful" image...no ...Omega projects dull image, it shows regrets, sorrow.
@@martinsmith3550 lols...just like you..regrets and sorrow from your lack of funds
Dude who hurt you 😂
lol what makes you think omega is regret and sorrow? SURE if you want a rolex then buys omega of course you will regret it, same with every other case out there.
The box on the omega has an inbuilt watch box. Should have shown that. It’s brilliant.
My experience with Omega and availability has been excellent. When I wanted to get a new Deep Black, the local boutique did not have any in stock. So what did they do? They hunted one down and had it delivered within 5 business days.
I have both these watches and I prefer wearing the Omega over my Sub, it just appeals to my tastes more. The movement and the sapphire case back just make the Omega a cooler looking watch. Rolex are brilliant watches, but I just feel they are getting a bit boring. I always seem to be glancing at the Omega as it just looks so nice, but when I wear the Sub I only look at it if I need to know the time.
I agree with all her points. I own 4 rolexes and 2 omegas. Quite love all six watches for different reasons. Currently wearing the Omega seamaster 300M seaweed
This specific black SMP300 is my favourite! Such a stunner!
I bought my white dial 300m last year after being jerked around by multiple Rolex ADs over the last few years. Walked across the hotel lobby from the Rolex AD into the Omega boutique and have never looked back.
Great review. Own both of them and both are great watches. If and when omega improves the bracelet and bezel they will be clear winner
If Omega could drop the case diameter and thickness, and have better looking bracelet that also tapers, that would be my choice. Currently too big for my wrist. I've tried it on, it's huge.
Another thing... I'm generally not a fan of textured dials, but that wave pattern dial really adds to the character of the watch. I like it.
I agree! I like the sea master so much but I tried it on today and it sits so big on my wrist! I also don’t love the bracelet. It’s so important to try watches on before you buy.
Omega has a mesh bracelet that I think is a must have for the Seamaster. Bracelet can be bought from Omega for $760 USD. The watch and mesh bracelet were made for each other. In fact, some of the 007 editions of the Seamaster use that bracelet.
@@Matys1975 yeah I love the bond version that comes with the mesh bracelet. However it still fits big on my wrist unfortunately.
@@Matys1975I currently have it on rubber not a fan of the original metal bracelet. The mesh looks nice, but 2 things that turn me off, is the gap between the lugs where the bracelet connects to the watch and the pretty significant bulge that forms at the clasp
Go for a speedmaster
One more point for Omega on the Movement category... the coaxial movement requires less frequent maintenance, like half as often.
The Rolex is every 10 years are you saying once every 20 years then?
What is Omega’s recommended service and interval and what is the cost to service?
Rolex easy! Omega to busy and that wart is shite.
One big disadvantage of the co-axial movement: it’s way too bulky than others. Realistically, two or three more years of service interval is a trivial benefit compared to the discomfort from 2mm thicker case for most users.
@@gripeace it's not 2mm thicker lol. It's like 1mm, and the glass case back already added like half a mm to that
This is the correct comparison Apples to apples.
Rolex and Omega
Tudor and longines
Good job Jennie 🎉
If both watches were priced the same, I’d give Rolex the edge. I bought a grey market 42.5 mm planet ocean for 4 K less than I paid for a submariner at retail. Given the 300 M’s similar specs at a much better price, it is the winner in my mind.
Jenni. Nice video. It's great to see you trying to be fair, but we all know you love Rolex. Perhaps you should have compared the Planet Ocean 38.5mm against the R? I would make different calls on your score system, and with the Rolex you do have the risk of theft and physical injury, as well as some Rolex people aren't the nicest. They really enjoy waving about, in your face, thinking you're going green with envy. I just sit quietly and enjoy either my OMG PO or my Pelagos. Please remember, your watch choice should never make anyone else feel less, for you wearing it?
if you want a watch buy an Omega, if you want a brand buy a Rolex
An ego buys rolex, a brain buys omega
@@BobbyDazzler888ego is ego regardless of price range.
A brain doesnt buy stupid things.
If you want a box buy Omega, if you want a watch buy Rolex! 😅
TH-cam commentators do not like Rolex, which is not surprising due to the supply situation. To my experience, only a few of these people are die-hard Omega fans, while the majority of them are on a list for a Rolex but simply got frustrated while waiting (which I can totally understand - I‘ve been there too!).
So . True .
I like the music in the background! Adds a professional and relaxing touch.
Seamaster, hands down. The Sub is timeless and legendary, but having a $10k dinger on your wrist all the time is nerve racking. A $6k dinger isn’t much better but the character and design of that bezel and dial, hands and bracelet, there’s just nothing like it.
I got my seamaster couple days ago - really loving it.
I recently had to decide between these two for myself, I ended up going with the Omega as I think its a much more interesting watch. The details on the dial, the movement, the bracelet looks cool (IMO), even the helium escape valve is pretty unique. I don't regret my choice for a second.
I personally think the Sub overall is a bit bland... However, I now want a Rolex OP which is arguably the blandest watch they make...
Plus you can’t buy the Submariner. I bought the Omega as a revenge purchase, I would have bought it anyway but really wanted the submariner right then..
Have both love both. Smp blue ss/sedna on strap is more comfy, sporty, and bold. Rolex bluesy is cleaner, gets noticed way more, and is as much jewelry as it is a watch.
Was definitely able to get the smp first😂
Jenni! Your energy is just infectious! When it comes to Rolex vs omega the answer is always Rolex! 😝 Omega box and packaging puts Rolex to SHAME!!!! BUUUUUT Rolex bracelet game & wearing experience is just too good! But hey, that’s just one gals opinion!!
Nice video and fair comparison, well done. But honestly I am personally struggling to compare the two. Beside functionalities that I would say are similar, one is undoubtedly much more beautiful than the other, in all means. When you put it together on the screen it gets so so obvious… I don’t say which one because the reader knows already
Yep.
if you want to wear it everyday, wear the one that technically better because it is more of a tool watch, if you want brand and recognition, my opinion is to go for the other one! both is a very good watch
Overall, very good review, however, you did not say that the omega also has a glide lock clasp.
Keep the reviews come in, they are good
I have a Rolex Sub Date and a Batgirl, but I am drawn to the new Seamaster Diver 300M. I started my watch journey buying the Bond Seamaster Blue dial/bezel made famous by Brosnan. I still have that after replacing the bezel once. I love that watch, but it is a quartz. I am supposedly on the wait list for a Rolex Daytona, but I don't think I will ever get that call. This newer Seamaster Diver 300M is calling my name to finish out my collection. Great video!
I think she could do the videos without the background music, and it wouldn't take anything away...far from it.
100%
Agreed!
Her voice is music so no need for additional music 🥰
Nah. Music is better
What is it with these boomers and their aversion for background music in youtube videos?
Excellent review. Really well presented. Thank you. The Omega is the clear winner based on your assessment. I would add that the availability issue should be weighted 2X or 3X. That said, I opted for the Grand Seiko SLGA023 “Ushio” for my diver. I have an 8” wrist and wanted a watch with larger dimensions.
Omega over Rolex all day long 👍👍
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I have the SMP300 and I love it. I like the Sub, but not enough to pay 10k for it lol, for that you could get an SMP 300 and have the better part of an Aqua Terra paid for to go with it. Easy decision.
Omega without a question. I’d get a Rolex just to have in my collection.
My wife got me a Seamaster for Christmas couple years ago. Always thought I would be a Sub guy, turns out, no, it was love at first sight of that wave dial. This year she got me the bond style Milanese, compliments non stop ever since. Next stop, vintage constellation.
Good video, but an important point: the timing diversion for the rolex movement is less than the omega. Doesn’t matter if it loses time, -/+2 is 4 seconds and -/+6 is well, 6.
That means the potential for accuracy is higher with rolex than omega and after a month would, on paper, be higher (though there are a lot of variables). I think you should have given it to rolex which changes the winner
Different philosophy between the two. Rolex with -/+2 has the potential to lose a lot of seconds in one month if the watch, albeit very unlikely, always loses seconds. On the other hand, Omega pledges that their watches will never run late. While Rolex strives for the highest accuracy possible for their watch with the risk of being late, Omega chooses to be more practical in regulating their movement to not lose time, as most people prefer their watches to advance rather than run late.
I own both. The new Rolex mvmt is garbage at keeping time. I’ve lost minutes per month and had it regulated on warranty twice. This is par for the new 3235 mvmt and is in need in modifications. It’s not just the sub, but ALL the 3235 mvmt lines (DJ41, SD 43…). Omega still keeping time almost as good as the Grand Seiko
Rolex has not introduced anything innovative as of lately. Sure the sun is now 41 mm and the power reserve increased, however omega is very antimagnetic many times more than a Rolex Milgauss and it’s iridium plated. Rolex has been riding on the wave of their name for too long. They are doing dishonest practices of cutting back production and now they are selling used Rolex at the authorized dealers.
That’s theory whilst the Chronergy Rolex calibres seem to have some significant amplitude issues. You may research this one within the Rolexforums.
See one of the messages below regarding the Rolex Chronergy calibre issues… These issues have yet to be resolved to this day.
I'm a hopeless Rolex fan-boy and thoroughly enjoyed this.
Even when I prefer Rolex as a brand, in the battle of the subs I have to admit that Omega wins this one. Only thing... Go with the rubber strap! Despite the great quality of Omega watches they still can't make a steel strap as good as Rolex.
Thanks for this comparaison easy to follow with 7 good features. I hope there will be more in the future, i have some suggestions if you want.
I agree with your verdict. Buying this SM300 on the grey market (with a 20% discount on retail price) seems to be a lever solution.
Seamaster wears chunky. Bracelet lacks taper, the clasp is huge, and the height is tall. Wearability is a huge factor and should be given more weight than say, a nice box. Submariner does everything just right.
Great video as always, I wish I could pronounce watch names like you - they sound fancier when you say them 🤪
A small but important detail: the Omega box contains a travel case for the watch, located below the leather base. Until now, I've never seen a presentation mentioning this.
I own a seamaster , and it does not come with one. But my speedmaster did. I think that travel case is not include for the SMP line
@@kaijuoncrack6198 I got one with my smp and aquaterra, same box
Great review! Thank you :) I'd probably go with the sub
If you take the bracelets off each watch Omega polishes both sides of the lugs and between them, Rolex doesn’t. The case back of the Omega is also better finished than the Submariner. You should do some TH-cam searches about how badly finished some Rolex’s are at the moment, they’re everywhere.
a good review, thanks. One thing though, if a Rolex only gains time the wearer can NEVER be late
Nobody:
Jenni Elle: Wolex
The Rolex company have got a youtube channel, they pronounce Rolex as "rolex", as in the English word from London, England.
Jenni. love your channel. The JLC Master SECTOR DIAL is the prettiest and classiest watch under $15,000 you can buy, IMO. It's my next watch if I can find one. Are these limited run?
I have both, personally i much prefer the Rolex. The seamaster is a little more bulky and less refined than the rolex. Even thinking of selling the seamaster
Would like to see a comparison between the Sub no-date and the post 2021 Seamaster 300 Heritage. The Heritage now has the (fabulous) 8912 movement in it, it's slimmer than the previous model and has a more elegant tapered bracelet with brushed centre links. It's still just under 1mm thicker then the Sub, but it does have a display back and a domed crystal which accounts for that. Value retention aside, I think it's a nicer watch in every respect. Rolex are to launch two new factories in 2025 to greatly increase production, will be interesting to see what happens to values when you can walk into any dealer and buy one.
I’ve always thought the planet ocean is a better contender to go up against the sub. The SM300 feels more like a Yaight master contender - ie. It’s the sister version of the daddy watch (planet ocean).
I am in agreement with you and stated as much further up.
Brilliant review and unbiased. This week always be a tough decision.
The design of the Seamaster is phenomenal. It's just a really beautiful watch. In my humble opinion, the place Omega loses a tonne of sales is in its size - 42mm is just too big for a huge number of people. And now that watches are finally getting smaller again, that problem is just getting worse and worse for Omega.
Scale it down, improve the clasp and take my money. Simple.
come on now, the Deepsea is 44mm and over 17mm thick and people are buying those left and right at 14-19K
42mm is perfect for most men with 7 inch plus wrists, anything smaller looks like a women's watch
@@rickhammel9541 everybody focuses on wrist circumference e.g. 7", nobody focuses on wrist WIDTH, you might only have a 6.5" wrist but 70mm width because your wrist might be flatter than round, this allows you to wear considerably larger watches. My point is I think we are all using the wrong metric for wrist dimension. Circumference is important for straps, width is more relevant fo lug-to-lug.
@@mytuberforyou yes, I think I fall into the camp of a wider, flatter wrist. 40mm is about as small as I can go, I think the proper fit for everyone is to try and get the lugs to taper with the wrist, whatever size that may be. It just looks odd to me to see the lugs fall on the wrist and there's still an inch to the edge of it.
@@rickhammel9541 The trouble is that most men don’t have a wrist size of 7”. Average male wrist circumference is 6.79”. And roughly half of all men are smaller than that. Rolex sizes are better suited to the majority of men. 40mm suits nearly everyone in a dive watch, so long as the lugs are well proportioned. I have an older 41.5mm SMP from 2015 and it hardly gets any wrist time anymore on my 6.75” wrist - there are far better fitting options available, not least from Rolex.
great vid....only a dream for me to own either but dreams are free...I have a few really nice watches but nothing on this scale..They include JAG , Oskar Emil and Rip Curl.Jenni seemed very knowledgeable and friendly which added to the video..Thanks
I know for all intents and purposes, the Omega is the better offering. Sadly though ... it never did it for me. It's too large, I don't like the overall shape and some of its details. The bracelet looks pretty awkward and too "busy". Same goes for the hands which I also never liked. I'm also not too fond of its see-through caseback. I know why they put it there, but I don't think it has a place on a dive-watch.
However: Seeing what Omega give you for a much more reasonable price, it really puts the price of the Rolex to shame. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I had the funds laying around and, more importantly, if I could just walk into an AD and simply put those funds on the table. But I'd be the first to acknowledge that the Rolex is ludicrously overpriced these days.
Would you go for the Omega Seamaster or a Breitling Super Ocean 2 Heritage?
i like rolex, but every time i see someone wearing one i ask "is it a real one?" i just assume off the bat it was purchased on holiday in turkey. this is why i bought the seamaster. if i was going to wear a fake watch i wouldnt wear an omega so in my mind it just gave it a greater level of authenticity
Sound logic, but a fake watch, you'e only fooling yourself. Also guessing you're from Europe. In the US, Turkey and China are long way for fakes. I love Rolex and know my watches are real / could afford them. The only thing that matters is what I think.
I agree, Omega over Rolex. However, i have to disagree on that particular Omega being the best ever. For me its the 2254.50. Great looking watch.
I'm not fan of the squeleton hands of the modern 300M too 😉
Am sure both watches are very high quality.... but the Submariner is way coooler
Nice video thanks for doing the review and comparison. I really want to love the omega but it’s hard for me because of the design of the case and the extra crown on the left side of the case, the helium escape valve. The reason that the submariner is a classic and the go to, for most watch aficionados is because of the timeless design of the watch the case and the bracelet! And that’s why I have a submariner!!! Did I mention that the longer you hold onto it , it just keeps on going up in value? Not to change gears here, but I do like the omega moon watch. The simple one that has the leather strap. Nothing too fancy…. So for me, it’s a clear choice if you’ve always wanted a Rolex submariner do not settle because you will not be happy.! on the other hand, if the Omega Seamaster floats your boat, then dive away !
Hi Jenni, one point that usually nobody compare is the dial color and accessory range between SeaM and SubM. You can call it “Original Equipment Range” or “customization”. Omega offer many dial colors, and Rolex just black. Omega offer many different original solutions between metal bracelet, rubber strap, or Nato, or Leather. Directly from Omega Original catalogue. And Rolex? Metal bracelet or…nothing else. In this way Omega can satisfy all the customer taste and needs (different occasion, different outfit,…) with a watch that remain “Omega original” in every part . 1 Point for Omega 😂
Jenni you didn’t mention that underneath the watch cushion, you will find what is in fact a travel box for your watch.
At Omega you get good customer service and they have watches not like
Rolex AD" that already sold their watches to grey market dealers for more money.
You missed the case within the case for the omega. It has a smaller travel box built in
Not all bracelets need taper. Omegas in particular because of the lyre lug design doesnt need much taper if any at all.
Excellent job Jenni, you nailed it as always. Great in-depth review and detailed comparison, and as subjective as possible. As the owner of a '97 16610 Rolex Submariner, it has been an exceptional timepiece and a joy to wear. However, I am a HUGE Omega fan, owning several vintage Seamaster models, but not a Seamaster 300. Six months ago I wore a 300 for two days with the prospect of adding it to my collection. Unfortunately, I did not find the Seamaster particularly comfortable and difficult to read. It came down to aesthetics, and looks for me. I found the wavy pattern dial too busy to read, and the sword hands too trendy to read quickly, especially under water. When is comes to value though, the Seamaster 300 beats the Submariner all day long. The direct Omega comparison in my book is the Seamaster Planet Ocean 2200.50.00, which would come up short against the Submariner, however, I have found a complete kit recently that I plan to purchase.
Quite a fair comparison, but I would add that the Submariner is the most iconic watch design ever made no a joy to wear, with almost perfect proportions and bracelet design.
On the other hand the Seamaster is slightly too big, with a pointless ugly helium escape valve and a bracelet that doesn’t taper.
Correct.. the Seamaster bracelet is borderline sharp with a known clasp issue. After owning both the Rolex is leagues ahead in comfort, wearability, versatility and prestige.
Submariner: 26 polished sections, 9 brushed sections.
Seamaster: 63 polished sections, 16 brushed sections.
Of course people give the edge to Rolex for finishing, there's so much less needing finishing to begin with and it's just linear brushing and flat polishing. Best in class, sure, but that's too easy a win.
So the half price watch won out and still has better finishing and a better movement
I own a PO with the 8900 caliber, and I am continuously blown away by its accuracy. About one second every 2-3 days.
Availability makes this entire argument mute. If you can't actually buy a Rolex at an AD, it doesn't really matter how good it is...
I have a Rolexgmtll, Omega 600 crono,and Breitling Super Ocean 44. I bought the Rolex in 1990. It sets in the safe. Breitling is my daily watch.
Love your channel, too!❤❤
I like the vertical nature of the Omega with the date at 6. Looks clean.
Rolex with the eye and other writing on the dial feels cluttered.
I don't think the finishing category is fairly graded. I think it should have been a draw. Rolex has a way better bracelet that feels better finished to me. It also has an infinitely better clasp (although, does the clasp really fall under a "finishing" category or more "design/function"? 🤔). On the other hand, the SMP 300 has a better finished case with the insane beveling work on those beautifully finished lyre lugs including the chamfering work. This finishing creates a combination of polished and brushed surfaces which is just gorgeous. It's definitely a step above the straight polished slab of metal on the sub with it's plain lugs. So ultimately you have the submariner with a much better finished bracelet and the SMP with a better finished case. Honestly, I couldn't pick one. Definitely a tie for me.
love both, but if I could only have one - it would be the Rolex all day long.
My sub is bigger than the first round of 41mm versions. I thought I was tripping but you said it here. The latter versions are different 6:11
The previous 41mm was more rectangular. Mine is more circular.
Had you actually worn the watches you would have come to two unique realizations. A) The larger crown found on the Rolex makes it far easier to use and manipulate with cold, wet, and or lightly gloved hands, B) the Omega‘s crystal is coated with anti-reflective material on both surfaces and it scratches quite easily, C) The Submariner doesn’t have a helium escape valve but you can simply unscrew the crown during your week long decompression.
You know. I stopped by at a Rolex shop here in Manhattan last week and they had a few Rolexes available for immediate purchase.
Wow ! Sure flippers had not raided that one yet…
After owning both I can say the Submariner is leagues ahead! No comparison here. The wearability, comfort, and finish is so much better on the Rolex.
You are such an amazing reviewer, the horology world is so lucky to have you!!!
Also my mum has the Submariner and I have the SMP300, I definitely like the SMP300 a lot more for the detailed design
The heart says Omega, the brain says…yeah, Omega too.