Every Historical Inaccuracy in Call of Duty Black Ops 2
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After reviewing the Historical mess that was Black Ops 1, we have now moved on to list the historical and weapon inaccuracies of its sequel, Call of Duty Black Ops 2
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00:00 - Intro
00:18 - Angolan Civil War - 1986
36:44 - Soviet-Afghan War - 1986
50:00 - Nicaragua - 1986
01:02:30 - Panama Invasion - 1989
01:20:05 - 2025 Weapons
01:35:17 - Outro
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____Corrections____
42:54 While talking about the SU-25, a picture of a SU-24 is mistakenly shown.
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@@FY7599Get lost
Are you gonna do COD 1 or 3 for your next video?
Does the Enlisted bonuses only work for new players?
Can you do a video on the brothers in arms games
43:05 that is not an SU-25. That’s the MIG-23.
Here’s what the SU-25 looks like en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-25
I would know as I’ve played project wingman which features the SU-25 as the SK.25
I like how the first mission alone has 117 inaccuracies
Frosty is gonna be making videos 500 years into the future on how halo is not accurate cause the covenant haven't invaded us yet XD
never liked bo2 as much bo1... it killed the series with its flashy multiple options and COOL FUTURISTIC GEAR.... that they can't really progress with the original style of game in bo3 so that was a disaster since they can't really go anywhere from bo2, they ditched it in bo4...
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778Dude is hella nitpicky. Shit drives me crazy oh x y and z never happened. Bro it's a video game 😭
@@Animedumptruckwe’re here for the nitpicking.
@@Animedumptruck "Waaa! The video about nit picking has too much nit picking!"
I’m actually quite sad that they didn’t portray the Soviets wearing sneakers. My grandpa fought in the Soviet Afghan war. One day he showed me a box of his old uniform. You can only imagine my surprised face when he pulled out blue Adidas gazelles as he explained that they were his “standard issue” footwear since he wore them more than any other footwear.
Just curious if you remember if they were real Adidas or the Soviet made Mockba knockoffs? Pretty cool that he still has all that stuff though. Always been fascinated by that war and how the soldiers there adapted to operating in an environment and war they were never really trained to fight in.
@@legitmilkman98 they were actually Western Adidas, he said he traded some of his bullets for them at a shop. Obviously they have lost their shine now, but he looked happy in his photos while wearing them
@@skylessadimtrading bullets for some adidas sneakers is the most russian thing ever
Metro be like @@adrianalprin5752
@@adrianalprin5752It sounds like it can happen in Metro lol.
I know it’s completely valid that the family of Jonas Savimbi felt that he could have been seen as portrayed as a “Half-Orc Hulk Smash” type character, but my honest reaction as a young adolescent playing this game was that Jonas Savimbi was a badass strategist and War Hero to his countrymen
Yeah same I find the bo2 campaign start so iconic part of it cuz of him.
Meanwhile in reality, he definitely was not the latter lmao
@@ShioSatou Tried to stop communist infection of MPLA, that's enough to make him hero.
@@fafjaafh L bozo he was literally allied with apartheid south africa lol
@@stephratI guess you can't win all the fights. 1-1.
Imagine sueing a game because they portrayed you as a brave warrior and a hero who fought communism.
Edit: Thanks for 2000 likes!
Exactly. This is why I love OG Call Of Duty games. They weren't afraid to get into controversy and actually depict people like Castro and Noriega as they were in real life. Sadly after 2019 gave us hope that the franchise went back to its roots, it seems they've gone soft these days after journalists complained about that game being too "realistic"
Back when COD didn’t give a fuck if you were offended.
@@The21stCentury_Guy "Remember, no Russian."
"Death comes only two ways, fast or slow. Dmitri; it is your choice."
"Victory belongs to GERMANY!!"
@@CharaDreemurr_Undertalehuh... what's the the last one.
@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r and then these new reboot games try to convince people that they somehow have balls when they completely drop the ball with it.
As someone who didn't know much about the Angolan War it was nice hearing all the details about it (Even if the details in BO2 are pretty far off) and how it compares to real life
Tbh I feel like modern African wars aren't used enough in modern FPS, they are pretty underrated settings if you ask me.
Wars in africa are very underrated alongside Balkan and asian wars. (And much more regions) in cod there are like around 2 africa war settings
Far cry 2 is great setting for this kinda thing
@@thepeskyone Guess it didn't sell US military as much, therefore make less overall sales in their country or something.
Go play far cry 2
@@P4L._0 You mean malaria simulator
I love Black Ops for its historical settings. They may not be realistic, but they're a gateway to learning more about lesser known conflicts.
Yeah, I've always seen Black Ops as less trying to depict anything approximating real history and more like a cartoonish pulp 80's action movie version of the Cold War. I can't genuinely rag on its historical inaccuracies too much, it feels like pointing out Rambo shoots too much without reloading.
I didn't know McNamara, Castro, Savimbi, or Noriega before Bo
This game introduced me to Soviet presence in Afghanistan.. I was only like 14 at the time. But this wasn't brought up during my time in school
That’s the charm of Black Ops
*Considering it's in the past now and that some of it was inpired by real life events you could also take a look at the historical inaccuracies in MW19.*
Or the og one from 2007
the reboots will never compare to the originals for me. I think they would be more interesting to cover because the reboots have strange MCU type shit going on
Thats kinda defeating the purpose of history cuz it's not basing anything on history.
Kinda hard to cover historical inaccuracies with a fictional storyline involving fictional countries. Outside of the Highway of Death revisionism there's nothing really to cover.
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778I agree, Everyone dissed on the new MW3 for it's campaign
ngl the angolan civil war mission was so silly and over the top that i never even thought it was based on real life events as a kid
Fr I thought it was all made when I little
I am an active duty U.S. Infantry Marine, and actively earning a gunsmithing degree, so I speak with confidence on the below points, feel free to add counter arguments if you desire
- You shouldn't add a point on every use of inaccurate grenades and should instead add one point then point out how often the inaccuracy is, this caused an excessive amount of points added
- Some guns you mentioned several inaccuracies on and would give one point, while other guns you charged several points on which is inconsistent
- I think that gameplay features shouldn't be considered as inaccuracies since their only purpose is for gameplay design, and have no relation to the historical accuracy (Like no hands on the M2, scavenger, fast hands, etc.)
- The "ACOG" listed in the menu is the 6x MDO (Machine Gun Day Optic) which in the USMC is only used on the M240B, however the optic shown on the FAL is actually the 4X RCO (Rifle Combat Optic)
- The Grenade Launcher shown in the menu seems to be a blend of the M320 & GP25
- The AK's in game typically show the optics screwed into the guns rather than using the typical AK style mounts
- The AK "Dong Grip" is entirely too blocky
- The Mujahideen soldier saying "I will take you to the leader of the Mujahideen" isn't necessarily wrong as the translation of an Arabic dialect into English would be hard to portray that he's a leader of their encampment
- The machete's in Panama also have backwards handles
- Even to this day many SOCOM and Intelligence Agency personnel still use models of the M1911's, only until the late 2010's did SOCOM replace the MEUSOC 1911 for the Glock and/or Sig P320
- In the mission where you snipe Mason, calling a 7.62x54R a "Smaller caliber" than a .50 BMG is technically true however the round is still more than capable or tearing off a limb
- The .45Tac in game isn't based off of the FNP-45, but instead the FNX-45 Tactical
- You can't assume that the Cap-40 is chambered in .40 S&W because the U.S. Military has an odd nomenclature system, with that logic the M4 should be chambered in .44 Magnum
- The FAL in game holding 25 instead of 30rnds could be considered wrong, but it is common even to this day (Even tho it is incorrect to believe this) that loading 2-5 rounds less than than a mags total capacity saves your mags over time providing safer feeding; this started in Vietnam when spring steel was less durable and we didn't issue anti-tilt followers in mags
- On the racking of the M27 sometimes on newer modes the charging handle catches not allowing you to fully rack the bolt, so troops have to pull it harder causing a similar animation
- The futuristic RPG-7 could be compared to the Airtronic PSRL-1 rocket launcher
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Frosty and “his” editor, aren’t exactly the best at researching these games, as well as the fact that they obviously do not know about the Old Gen Console limitations shows to me that they don’t actually know exactly what they talk about and only read wiki pages as research and do basically do these videos for the money.
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My family works in arms sales on the competition shooting and hunting end of things. My brother is a gunsmith. Always really glad to see informed members of the community making contributions to deconstructing popular media. Especially in this case, where you can see fans convinced these popular games are accurate/realistic depictions of warfare.
@The_Supreme_Leader_tf?
As a change of pace, would you consider covering other historical fps games like Battlefield 1, the Medal of Honor series or even Brothers in Arms?
Maybe he’ll do that after he does COD 1 and 3.
Medal of Honor would be cool
Don't worry. We're working on alot of projects in the future. One series at a time.
@@munanchoincAwesome, Take all the time you need!
Battlefield 5 too?
Imagine actually putting a levitating minigun on a horse 💀
Oof that would hurt the poor horse
@youtubersfirstvideoknown4983 thanks
Metal slug vibe
@@jonwrankiz perhaps I mean seriously it’s impossible to carry a minigun with a horse in one hand
Its a bonus campaign unlock. Your loadout doesn‘t start with a minigun. Its video game logic.
Noriega's arrest in game: mason and woods have him to some exchange to seal his reputation.
Noriega' arrest irl: lets play some rock music he could vibe to then arrest him.
My dad was there when it happen, he had a lot of fun
Noriega surrendered because all the good songs stopped playing
The US creating a massive mosh pit to arrest Noriega is fucking hilarious
@@jakereynolds8897 yuh bro, he handed himself in cuz the good songs stopped
@@coltforceplayer He must have gotten sick of hearing Dave Mustaine's singing
The Afghanistan levels were inspired by Rambo 3 which him and Col. Trautman take on the Soviet Army. That's why it's all desert like in the film along with the huge tank used by Kravchenko.
The Rambo 3 style of this mission makes it so much more fun than a “historically accurate” mission.
@@BigManLaskey yeah except you have the ability to bring out of place weapons
Agreed@@BigManLaskey
15:59 In the Canadian military we’re just now phasing out the Browning Hi-Power. While yes the Hi-Power can hold 13 rounds, we’re only trained to load 10 since the spring in the magazine wears out easily and the weapon tends to jam a lot. So there is a precedent for this.
Won’t be until 2030 until a single Canadian infantrymen actually get one of the new sidearms lmao
@@BigManLaskey wow just wow I should clap for that👏
@@BigManLaskey They actually have started deliveries already. So I’ll say 2029. Haha
@@tylers1996 It must be because of the wear and tear of the weapons and there long service life that the mags are like that. It has been in service in the Canadian Military since 1944
@@Autobotmatt428Exactly. One of my co-workers switched over from the infantry (Air Force Weapons Technician for context). He told me during his first tour in Afghanistan his Browning got busted beyond repair. The replacement they gave him was right out of the package… from 1952!!! All original with instruction booklet and everything.
Noriega upon seeing his portrayal: “What did I do to deserve this?”
People of Panama: “…ahh”
Noriega: “I meant what *specificly?”*
Specifically*
I think Woods has very bad dementia if these missions are bad
Funny joke, but it’s due to console limitations and the want for historically accurate video games not being the norm up until somewhere between 2016-2019.
@@BigManLaskey yeah maybe and that reminds me the entire chain of command is screwed in this franchise think about you are playing as a character who has the highest rank than squadmate and they outrank you for no reason
@@usadroopymeat1099weird how Woods always barks "Mason, do this," when he's a Sargent and Mason's a captain.
@@BigManLaskeyand also time constraints, half of this video is literally just nitpicking shit that was done to avoid having to spend time and resources doing minuscule details
To be fair most "random names" of weapons are because they didn't pay for the naming rights of the weapon.
There's been a handful of a game in which you kinda know exactly what the weapon is supposed to be but its given a different name (usually a military designation or a random name in general) and they slightly adjust something about it, or the name alone being change is "ok" for them to not be charged by the gun manufacturer (refering to the olympia) but it's happened many times through out COD as well a other random games.
Copyright exists even for weapon names and they the game devs are supposed to somehow change them to not "Resemble: the real deal somehow or another. I'm not exactly sure what the standards that allow you do make the exact weapon but it not get considered copy right. But I do know Military Designations and random names tend to be "allowed:" by game devs and the gun manufacturers won't sue over them.
That’s what Project Wingman had to do with the aircraft having to use different names but mostly with letters switched around, example, the F4-E is referred to as the F/E-4, F/A-18E is referred to as the F/E-18, the F-14D is referred to as the F/D-14 etc due to them not having a license which is very expensive. Whereas this is not the case for Ace Combat as they have the license to use the real names and have had the license since Ace Combat 04. Most game devs don’t have the license as it’s too expensive for most game devs especially indie devs.
Also nowadays, California won't let you sell a game in stores if you have any real-gun names used. So all gun names have to be faked, iirc.
@@cwp24 There is absolutely zero precedent for video game companies (or film studios, or anyone else making media) being successfully sued for using either firearm names or the names of aircraft, especially when the names in question are military designations or from 50+ year old designs.
While a "rapid fire" attachment is still kinda stupid, it could be done on AKs quite easily, with a rubber pad on the recoil spring to decrease the length the bolt travels
Actually the 2025 RPG is based almost entirely on the PSRL-1, an American brand version of the RPG-7 often given to NATO members or Allies as a means of helping the transitioning from Soviet based weapon designs to more modern and NATO resembled ones and is still in production to this day, though it is unclear if the US uses it themselves as the 2025 missions seem to imply it is the main launcher for the US and Allied forces.
US definitely uses it, cuz lt produces these questionable licences at home.
Still has old as heck ergonomics, unlike the BF3 more realistic RPG7V2 used in service.
13:13 i never understood why this feature was cut from cod up until bo2 and was brought back as an attachment. Cod 1 had select fire as a feature, at least recent entries brought it back
42:27 It is definitely possible to control a horse without holding the reins, however i doubt Mason is a skilled enough rider to do so
I absolutely LOVE these videos, and I hope you not only cover every other historical aspect of Call of Duty, but expand beyond Call of Duty and cover other historical games. Would love to see you cover Darkest of Days.
He always makes history so fascinating
He should cover Metal Gear Solid 3 someday
I remember I once talked to a Former Marine who used the M4A1 Carbine as well as the M27. He said he hated the M27 because it was long and unwieldy adding that "it is a broomstick of a rifle". He claims that he would prefer the USMC to keep their Tank divisions as well as still use the M4A1.
In the orginal modern warfare series most of the US troops use M4A1 assault rifles however you see some like the Afghan conscripts and US troops in Washington Use the M16A4 and the scar H. Even weirdly how in the OG MW3 the German tank crews use M16A4 Assault rifles instead of German HK weapons like the G3
@@declangaming24 It's the same case with non-US Special Forces, where the SAS and certain Royal Marine units use a Canadian licensed version of the M4A1. Then the Australian SASR, almost every Latin American military force and Scandinavian forces.
Seems like the existence of the rifle hurts the domestic firearms manufacturers.
The M27 is a nearly ten pound rifle when fully loaded, even more so with stuff attached to it, so the complaint makes sense. My guess is that it was pushed as a standard infantry rifle by Marine higher ups in order to damage control the initial retarded decision to replace the M249 with it.
If he thinks the m27 is a “broomstick” he must’ve despised the m16s
@AeonPhoenix yeah exactly they must be sharing weapons or something .
Not enough G36C or other guns to go around I always wondered why the Russians in OG MW2 used a lot of other non Russian weapons like the F200 ,tar 21 ,FAL ,Vector ect and how in call of duty 4 the OP for have there hands on G3 assault rifles and M249 saws
All these inaccuracies still don’t take away the factor of how incredibly great this game is.
Actually that's kind-of exactly what these inaccuracies do.
Black ops 2 is an amazing game despite these and I don’t blame them for inaccuracies. The game had to balance futuristic and past settings on the 360 hardware. So many guns, characters and vehicles have to fit in one game and some things will have to be cut or reduced.
Always found it quite sad we didn’t get the black ops 1 weapons in multiplayer though
@@truegamers5010"true gamer" you are a terrible one
@@goofy5603 Bro your name is literally goofy. You're goofy as hell
Its a piece of propaganda, so that takes away points
Actually, the fact that Savimbi has his iconic revolver is a positive. Doubt many people can distinguish between Colt and Smith&Wesson revolver handle.
They just keep getting longer, and I'm all here for it
They keep getting longer because he’s nitpicking old generation console limitations.
If “he” does a video on the New Modern Warfare games I want to say wouldn’t even be 30 minutes, however I know that “he” would go on a rant about something stupid like “The Oden only being a prototype weapon and shouldn’t be seen so often yadda yadda yadda” and make it be two hours long despite only having half the inaccuracies as these previous videos.
Most of these aren't even historical inaccuracies, just general inaccuracies, like when he lists off flaws in weapon models. The way he nitpicks it makes CinemaSins look like good faith critics. I absolutely understand none of this is taken seriously, but there's a limit to how long an autistic rant can go on until it stops being entertaining.
@@weed75black35Wait so you're telling me that this video is pointing out inaccuracies?
@@BigManLaskeyKeep coping
@@AisarShamsul Very witty, buddy. Your input is duly appreciated 👍.
1:28:55
In their defense, most firearms books from the early 2000's do pointed out it was supposed to be the standard army rifle by the time period depicted in game, so it's quite a neat detail that they chose it.
The other 8 things they got it wrong :
1. The PLA's current digital combat is not Type 07, instead it was replaced by the Type 19 and Type 21 Xing Kong Camouflage.
2. As for the US Army, the Army service Blue Uniform is currently relegated as ceremonial dress uniform while the WW2 era pinks and greens uniform was brought back as the current standard service uniform.
3. In real life, The FAST helmet is mostly issued to the special forces such as Navy SEALS and Delta Forces, while US and Chinese conventional infantry units were equipped with IPHS and Enhanced Combat Helmets.
4. The security personnel on board the ship in Karma level should have any sorts of body armour when the ships was attacked by Raul Menendez.
5. The SWAT and LAPD officers in Cordies Die day level should have FAST helmets and Modular Scalable Vests when the invasion of LA begins.
6. The Navy Sailors on board USS Barack Obama should have worn ACH Helmets, PASGT Vest, PASGT Helmets, IOTV and ECH Helmets in combat instead of wearing nothing at all. On the other hand, the blueberries digital camo was replaced by NWU Type III.
7. The Navy Seals in 2025 should have worn NWU Type III instead of Multicam. In Archilles Veil level, the NWU Type II(Desert variant) should have worn by Mason and his teammates.
8. In the opening of the segments of Judgement day level, US Army Paratroopers and PLAAF Airborne Corps should the majority ones to join the paradrop assault on Haiti assisted by US Navy SEALS, US Green Berets, US Delta Forces, US Marines, PLAN Marines and PLA Jiao Long Special Forces. And where are the tank supports like the Type 15 light tanks, ZBD04 IFVs, M10 Bookers and M113?
Man, I wish this comment was on the top of the page.
I always thought the ALICE gear used by the wrong factions was quite weird, as was the wrong gear being used by U.S. forces in Panama. For them, a PASGT vest and simple ALICE gear (or just ALICE gear by itself) would have worked instead of whatever they were wearing. They also could have reused the Colt Commando/CAR-15 from the first game too. Regardless, it's still a great game and one of the best Call of Duties.
The default load out for that mission is the M16A1 and the 1911 it should be the M16A2 and a 1911
I've been passing through a lot of dark moments in my life, but it's videos like these that makes me want to learn more about wars and history, and keep carrying on remembering that my life is not as bad as i think, thanks to exist mate, this channel is awesome and i hope you never stop, thank you for this awesome content you have ❤.
Keep fighting and keep kicking ass man. I learned and got big into history in my darkest days and it saved my life. Keep learning
@@justinw29 i Will, thanks for the words my bro.
@@normalperson8338 your welcome buddy
@normalperson8338 I'm at a similar point in life right now, but I'm praying for you, buddy.
@@morbiusmale2347 thanks my friend
I disagree that mason cant set off anti tank mine that need 180kg force . you see mason is just big chungus and he has like shit ton of equipment and weapons on him.
He can carry two miniguns which puts him over 180 kg
Yeah like, from how many mags he has, yep he’s 180kg
As some people have already mentioned, you shouldn't nitpick things relating to gameplay, like perk abilities and carrying too much ammo. We know what video games are. We're here for the historical inaccuracies.
Some of these complaints are just nitpicking. Like what’s the point of complaining that the ammo on the ground being all the right type of ammo for your weapon when you walk over them? These videos were better when they went over historical inaccuracies rather than the game sound design.
This is why I don't really like this channel. This dude is on par with freaking cinema sins with how nitpicky and annoying he is. I don't mind detailing historical inaccuracies in various media especially video games but the condescending attitude and the nitpickiness just ruins it.
Gotta get that hour in somehow
One thing I'd just like to add for this games depiction of 2025 that had nothing to do with weapons, is that the police cars that you see in the missions "Cordis Die" based in Los Angeles appear to be inspired by the Carbon Motors E7 prototype, which at the time was a purpose built police cruiser that was only to be available for Law Enforcement agencies and planned to become available in 2012. Carbon Motors is now defunct, but at the time some were predicting that these cars would become standardized across major U.S cities in the near future. Thats just my thought anyway.
Great work wit these vidoes, guys! wonder if in the future you might consider looking at some of the older or more recent Medal of Honor games like the 2010 reboot or Frontline or Allied Assault.
And it has one of the biggest lies in video game history because back then they marketed the level with fake gameplay and one of the characters gets killed off before the level and was dead weight
@@usadroopymeat1099 If it's one of the biggest then how come I have never heard jackshit about it?
@@usadroopymeat1099 You mean Harper, who you can save from being killed? (but you won't get the good ending if so);
@@MerchantrRe4 and of course the other comment probably you didn’t play this game or probably missed the news old and new just saying anyway I appreciate the support
Dr Najib was from Paktia (but lived in Khost for some time) but yeah Khost was really loyal to the DRA
"Unlike under previous Afghan governments, Khost had substantial representation in the DRA, and because so many of the PDPA leadership came from there, Khost City was nicknamed “Little Moscow” or the “Second Moscow.” Symbolically and strategically, it was one of the most important areas to the DRA government"
Gotta do a “What Black Ops II Got Right/Wrong” in 2025
The fact that Noriega tried to sue Activision cracks me up.
I was actually flabbergasted seeing the MPLA rebels using machetes in human waves. So weird ngl, they should have been using Soviet equipment as well in organized assaults
Speaking of child soldiers and military gear, MGSV Phantom Pain portrays this well, highly recommend checking it out, especially since it and BO2 share the same settings.
Also, you should cover Medal of Honor 2010 and Modern Warfare 2019.
The depiction of the MPLA is actually insane idk how they got away with this shit
It's a good depiction of commies.
@@ShioSatouwdym
@@Deathmare235 they portray them as essentially barbaric and incompetent savages while justifying the apartheid forces they fought against lol
@@ShioSatou aren’t mpla bad too
A game that isn't historically accurate can be good, like black ops 2, while games that are bad can be historically accurate. But then there's Vanguard... which is bad and is historically innacurate.
Blops Two is “inaccurate” due to the limitations of the older generation of consoles as well as the need of video games being “historically accurate” not important up until like MW2019 coming out and it changing the video game industry as a whole.
Vanguard on the other hand tho, no excuse for it being so bad…
@@BigManLaskey of course that explains a lot and maybe nowadays those problems of historical accuracy will be fixed and solved once and for all
And waw and maybe the very first cod titles of 2003
black ops 2 didn't try to pass itself as historically accurate. vangaurd did.
as much as i appreciate the explanations as to what certain things should be in the game, i feel like there should be another counter you add titled "inaccurate, but ill let it slide" haha. like enemies using the same grenades which is most likely due to the devs trying to cut back on time and money from designing more models.. i mean, yeah, the Soviets and Cubans might be using other grenades, but they usually dont come into view long enough to make the distinction. (because youre trying to scram and not get blown tf up in the game lol)
yeah, really like the videos but some of the "historical inaccuracies" are detail imperfections from the game itself and has nothing to do with history, like the fire switch from the weapons
@@pijabomba5558
or ammo still in "empty" magazines, which was a detail games didn't even really focus on up until just a few years ago.. *ping*
@@pijabomba5558yeah or the part about the perks, like no shit there weren't perks lmfao
This “guy” or at least his ghost writer does not understand Old Gen Console Limitations, so I wouldn’t be surprised if neither of them even play video games and only do these videos for views.
@@BigManLaskey everybody already know okay my friend thank you👍
I feel like a good number of the inaccuracies in the vid can be explained by developer shortcuts. The reason that the Angolan leader has a python is because that is the only wood handle revolver among the game's assets. They could have made a custom revolver model for that character, but since it was for one short mission, why would they? Same with the uniforms, etc.
All I'm hearing is you can't fire a minigun with one hand on horseback. Sounds like a skill issue
Fr, I can duel wield those mfers
@@BigManLaskey that would break your arms instantly unless you are the terminator
@@BigManLaskey proof
@@TheATFSux
You have to wield them together
@@BigManLaskeyor Weld them together
Black ops II post credits scene is peak at its final tribute for the best cod series.
I’d love to see one of these done on battlefield 1 or V
ranking every pixel in different battlefield games
90-99% of the soldiers would be armed with bolt action full sized rifles or carbines. Shotguns and SMG came super late to the war. Most of the auto rifles would be prototype. Only officers were armed with pistols
Half of this is gameplay inaccuracy , not history that's painful to watch
Honestly, I'm loving your innaccuracies video because it also educates me about other stuff in history and pretty neat details regarding the military of other nations, including the weapons and equipment they used during that specific time period/war
Actually frosty the plane at 0:54 is an Airbus A400 since it is a turboprop 🤓 (Also yes I know the C-17 was first built in ‘93 and the A400 is from 2009)
Edit: I don’t mean to be that guy but I am picking up likes, I actually don’t get a lot of likes so thanks 🙏
babe wake up, the frosty one uploaded
I’ve waited patiently for this moment 😊
*I dare you to do a video on the historical inaccuracies of Black Ops: Declassified.*
37:36 Wouldn’t a Revolver that shoots blanks still be lethal at that range? Or maybe a bit closer? Like, it’s still shooting stuff out of it
That type of revolver is incapable of fiering live ammunition
those race track revolver fire what are basically those little fire crackers you throw at the ground or step on, very small bags of gunpowder. If you block the chamber with your hands, maybe you'll get a small burn, but that's the extent of their damage.
@@queuedjar4578 I'm saying that cause I remember people saying that when you can grab a blank and shoot in Wolfenstein, it doesn't go off but since you were beside one of the Villains it should kill
Maybe Menendez was track coach before he became a terrorist.
@@chriskopp1361 ONE OF YOU WILL FINISH THIS RACE, WOODS, HUDSON, OR DAVID.
I wonder what the world would be like if history happened just as Call of Duty depicts it in their "historical" games
Bro has never heard of “Console Limitations” before bruh.
@@BigManLaskey everybody already knows since the beginning anyway thanks my friend
They're not historical games. They are action blockbusters that use a historical backdrops.
@@itsjimwaffle the damage was done to begin with
@@itsjimwaffle so, they are historical games
them being action blockbusters does not make them not historical
9:12 this makes the earlier point of many of them charging with machetes even dumber when their character models are wearing firearms they could be using instead
ALSO JUST 11:45
President Najibullah was originally from Paktia Province (Which Khost Was apart of until 1986-1987) however Dr Najibullah did spend alot of time in Khost in his earlier years, Many members of the DRA were from Khost though including Minister of Interior Sayed Mohammad Gulabzoy, Habib Mangal, a member of the PDPA politburo and ambassador to the USSR, Ghafar Lakan, minister of agriculture; Mahmud Alumgal Suma and Pohanmal “Professor” Guldad, both ministers of higher education; and Mir Ahmed Gorbuz, ambassador to Czechoslovakia.
Lots of these are more of "unrealistic details" than "historical inaccuracies" but i guess only part of the game is set in actual history so its hard to make a lengthy video of it eh?
20:55 This is a model straight from COD2 thats why its german xD
1:01:25 Those gotta be money models from MW3 Somalia levels. Recycle moment heh.
omg how could a 8gb video game from (2012?) have more inaccuracies than the +120gb WW2 video game from 2021!!??
@@BigManLaskey true thanks
@@BigManLaskey I dont mind all the mistakes he points out, but many of these aren't even history related, they're realism/gameplay related.
These vids never get less amusing and fascinating to watch and are dearly loved. it's staggering to see so many discrepancies in only what, half of a game? incredible work to everyone who worked on this
I’m still baffled that Black Ops 1 has you use Technology and Weapons 30 years ahead of the 1960s
It’s because Black Ops 1 (and I think Blops 2 as well) run on the Modern Warfare engine, so they re-use a lot of assets from those games to save space since old generation console games could only hold about 8 gigabytes of storage.
Most of the inaccuracies in the black ops inaccuracies videos are due to this reason and Frosty and “his” editor do not care about this fact since listing these problems increases the video length ten fold.
@@BigManLaskey yeah very true thanks for spreading the word out
@@BigManLaskey I mean the optimal solution would've been to have 2 disc's, I mean Max Payne 3 had 2 disc's and I didn't think it was a chore to switch
@@coltforceplayer
That would have substantially increased the cost of the game because keep in mind the majority of sales were physical discs, as well as the fact that making games have two discs not really optimal since you still couldn’t fit the full 16gb storage in the game especially since CoD was becoming a yearly game, so at most Trayach only had 3 years to develop Blops 2 which is a pretty decent time crunch to develop a game in, impossible nowadays, so even if they wanted a two disc game Trayarch most likely didn’t have the time to make it and making games two discs back in the day cut pretty heavily into sales.
Also 8gb isn’t super bad when you consider graphics not being so high fidelity like the newer +120gb CoD games now.
@@BigManLaskey I ain't reading allat
Even though the Black Ops games aren't the most accurate, they're hella fun and still have more respect for history than Vanguard and WW2.
14:10 I am pretty sure the equipment that can be grabbed during each mission is mission only and mason just gets rid of the gear after to prepare for the next operation
Point is it's still heavy af besides all the gear he's already carrying
idk how he missed that
Imo it feels like it’s becoming more of a critique about realism than it is about historical inaccuracies.
55:56 Well, you see that's simple. Menendez willed additional shells into the gun through sheer force of anger alone.
42:56
The Sukhoi Su-25 was used in Afghanistan I believe, but the pictured aircraft is a Sukhoi Su-24
22:52 Raul was traumatized😭
Najibullah lived in Khost (when he was younger) but he wasnt originally from Khost (Khost was apart of Paktia province up until 1986 however) everything else is spot on
Bro is literally "🤓👆"
But I love it.
It's the way of the gaming world now. You could be too historically accurate or too politically correct
@@luismedina5792
Gamers in 2012 didn’t care about historical accuracy like they do now, also console limitations were a thing back in the day.
Why is he a nerd for knowing much about history?
1:19:15 I think this is the entire point. In Achielles Veil, when attempting to shoot Menendez, he tells Farid "To those you serve, your life means nothing." This is also reconfirmed in the start of the game when Hudson tells Mason something on the lines of Woods being forgotten by the CIA since he got captured, I believe that they don't talk about it, because despite the actions of both foreign and US soldiers because it doesn't benefit the government, (Which is Menendez's entire motivation in the 2025 setting) another piece of evidence to support this is in the mission fallen angel, Menendez says "They care nothing for the suffering of their people. Neither to the Americans or the Chinese" in which the ISI commander says "They care. They care for their own interest,nothing more."
I can’t wait until 2553 comes around so we can get “Listing every historical inaccuracy in Halo”
I love this series of yours, it is so entertaining, interesting & thoroughly researched. As a history buff I am always humbled by your knowledge and work! Please keep it up
I had a great time doing some of the research for this video, good work as usual Frosty
i love your historical inaccuracy vids. cant wait to see more
2:48 I think Treyarch choose this kind of uniform for convenience. Judging by those photos, both MPLA and UNITA soldiers wore similar looking uniforms. This might make it hard for the player to tell the difference between friendly and enemy NPCs.
However, they could have used the SADF instead of UNITA. The SADF wore mostly khaki uniforms. Plus the game is already using SADF vehicles, such as the Buffel and Eland Mk7.
I don’t think people in the comments are understanding that this is meant to be a nitpick. I find it fun to watch.
If you ever decide to branch out this series, I would love to see you take on Battlefield 1 and/or Battlefield 5
Imagine calling a video game perk/feature an historic inaccuracy
42:15 IIRC mounted archers had horses that were well-trained enough to respond to commands from the rider's legs, allowing the archer to use their bow. Mason *MIGHT* have a horse that was trained enough, but then he wouldn't need the reigns
Love the vid but ny only issue is a lot of these nitpicks were gameplay related and not history related which i think is wrong since CoD is an arcade shooter and not mil-sim. Other than that great vid!
Yeah maybe a bit too many but oh well, still good though. I'm here to learn about the real history
Nitpicking old Gen limitations is like 90% of the video
@@BigManLaskey we know
I was thinking the same thing. We all know that in real life you don't respawn when you die and can carry a massive amount of ammo and use perks. We're here for the historical inaccuracies.
I was thinking the same thing. We all know that in real life you don't respawn when you die and can carry a massive amount of ammo and use perks. We're here for the historical inaccuracies.
pet peeve about these videos is the fact he’s listing gaming things for “historical” inaccuracies (like the perks and constantly charging a gun when picked up)
I don't think the weapons from the 2025 campaign meant to be futuristic versions of existing guns should be treated like they *are* the guns they're based on. But of course still mention stuff that doesn't make sense on any gun. Like bullets in transparent magazines not matching the actual amount of bullets in the gun.
For example, yes, the XM8 failed to replace the M16A2/A4 in the US military or any military or even get adopted by one except in Malaysia. But the gun in game is not meant to be the XM8. Rather it is a new gun derived from the XM8.
For guns like the AN-94, yes, tear them apart.
me when I misunderstand how game development works and get mad when an equip animation doesn’t eject a bullet and change the amount of bullets in the mag (it isn’t realistic)
Bro this Frosty “dude” and “his” editor has definitely never played a video game before, or at least an Old Generation Console Game before.
@@BigManLaskey he did just give him a break
@@usadroopymeat1099 Holy moly, you act like an obsessive ex gf over this guy lmao.
@@OriaxHeloth because he was right
Great series so far, I’ve waited for this one! Thanks frosty! 🎉
1:22:40 As a KEL-TEC KSG12 owner I can confirm what you said plus more. The KSG ejects shells down in the same place you load them not out the side. Also the sight would be way to low for the average person to use. There is more off about the model but those are the biggest things you missed.
I appreciate the effort and research put in this video, but the majority of these inaccuracies are far from historical. Ok, we get that the character does not pull the pin from a grenade, that the number of cartridges in the ammo belt are not accurately modeled, that the mounted guns have infinite ammo, that the player can hold a heavy mg with one hand etc. Yes, these are unrealistic, but by no means "historical" inaccuracies.
This channel among many others have been exposed as channels being promoted by the Chinese.
@@Pekoms_21What? Why would that even benefit them? A guy said that some stuff in call of duty is wrong and that destroys America or something?
Fucking madlad actually put in the Savimbi meme on an Enlisted sponsorship xD
I was not expecting that at all. Props to you AND Gaijin especially for your jabs on the modern CoDs. Holy shit, that made my day :D
See I think Mason is just built different regarding all personal weight and strength inaccuracies
8:03
The dude: Please help
The Frosty 1: ...Which would be very unlikely for both sides...
46:42 Considering the amount of stuffs Mason is carrying, I don't it's weird that the mines can exploded from Mason walking on it
Hello there I'd like to say you did a good job, however I noticed you made one mistake in your editing. The SU at 42:55 is an Su-24,not an Su-25 as you said.
This feels like less of a "historical inaccuracy's" video, and more like a, "inaccuracy's in general" video, just because going on about how much a human can carry, or how a gun has certain slight modifications to it, isn't exactly historical, as much as it is nitpicking about select ideals for a video games, designed to be fun, and didn't exactly need to be realistic, in order to achieve historically accurate.
I thought maybe Treyarch changed the location of the Afghanistan mission because the leader of the mujahadeen in Kabul would've been Osama bin Laden.
I checked where Osama bin Laden's mujahadeen were during this time, and it turns out he was definitely not in Kabul.
So I have no other ideas why they'd change the place to Khost and have a generic mujahadeen leader.
Frankly, I think this mission would've been better if it was Osama's mujahadeen group in the east of Afghanistan. The point of the Black Ops series (until 3) is that the CIA does dirty things all the time in the hopes of preventing something worse. Having Osama be a protagonist in this game would really hit the nail on the head.
But seeing how they portrayed Savimbi, I don't think it was ever even put on a sticky note as an idea during development. Imagine if they portrayed Osama the way they did him.
I personally see the Angola missions now as disrespectful misinformation, even though it was almost definitely unintentional. Mischaracterizing the barbaric, murderous, warlord that Savimbi was as a selfless hero has given him substantial support among fans of Black Ops 2 and the internet at large. Can you imagine if the same thing was done for other brutal warlords and dictators?
They didn't want to include bin laden so they don't sound controversial in black ops gulf war we could see bin laden and Raul menedez meet
@@declangaming24Harper literally mention Osama in the 1st cutscene. Having him as a double crossing agent makes sense
@@quakethedoombringer yeah we will see in gulf war
I feel like it would be pretty fitting to review the inaccuracies in Metal Gear Solid V since the two games focus on the two conflicts from the 80’s albeit being two completely genres
There are none, Hideo Kojima himself served in the Afghan Civil War and everything in the game is historically accurate.
@@BigManLaskey unless you look at the gunsmith mechanic just look up everything wrong with mgsv weapons and you will know
@@BigManLaskeywhat?
@@usadroopymeat1099
Besides weapons obviously not modeled 100% like their real life counterparts (mainly due to Kojima already being super over budget, as well as the fact that they simply did not care) *historically* (like this video tries and fails to do) nothing is inaccurate in the Metal Gear Storyline.
@@BigManLaskey do you want to talk about super over budget how about cod characters who were just introduced and got killed off in the same cod title they just came in and put them in marketing promos etc just to lure and scam their blind loyal cringy fanbases and communities
_Maybe the real historical inaccuracies are all the friends we made along the way._
The Game portray the MPLA exactly how they portray the Vietcong and North Viet Army (NVA) in Vietnam war missions
Gonna be honest with you Frosty, some of these reach a bit into the "Nitpick" and not in the good way.
Still a good vidya though.
Op making this video: ☝️🤓
So you want to defend black ops 2 despite it being inaccurate but not vanguard. Double standard is crazy.
Also racist much?
41:36 I remember being an Afghan kid and buying BO2 and then playing this mission, being very aware that I had relatives in the PDPA and the Afghan Army’s intelligence branch that conducted operations in Khost. Then I start the mission and see Soviets and no Afghan soldiers. Anyways I’m glad there were no Afghan soldiers because I’d refuse to fire at them
Im pretty shure this is the only time Afghanistan is in call of duty
Actually og mw2 had the first mission in Afghanistan but we fight the opfor from cod 4
@@train_go_boom2065 yeah and the Afghan Army speak Pashto in MW2 while OpFor speak Arabic and the city for some reason has arabic signs
KhAD Grindset
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Something that makes me laugh is when kravchenko kicks mason for the first time, it looks like he completely misses 😂😂😂
I really enjoy this series a lot! Thank you for taking the time to make amazing content with incredible research
28:18 *A wild Brandon Herrera has appeared*
*BRANDON HERRARA!!??!!*
I love these videos Frosty, keep em up :)
these are the kinds of videos i always watch in a single sitting. good stuff man!