28:51 There's a hidden Repel on Route 32 in the tall grass to the left of Picnicker Liz just before Union Cave. Just tested on Crystal version and with decent pathing, you CAN get through Union Cave the first time without any wild encounters. Since Repels can be bought in Azalea town, right after Union Cave you only need to get through it once. This opens up Lapras as a team option if you're willing to put in the effort.
I’ve never watched anyone use repel strats until Jrose I used it in my last two nuzlockes because it’s not against any rules You could even use repel strats to catch legendaries if you allow them in your nuzlocke
@@aceclover758In Hoenn people have to repel on Route 116 to get a garunteed Whismur in Rusturf Tunnel due to it being the only encounter there, That way an encounter isn't wasted on Route 116 where Whismur can also be found.
Also, I think the NPC who trades an Onix for a Bellsprout in Gold and Silver is still in Crystal, so it'd be possible in that case to trade for the Onix if you get a Bellsprout.
Fun fact: if you can guarantee Ghastly, you can guarantee Abra without the game corner if you keep Mean Look. So long as it's decently leveled, it's speed is comparable and you can stop it from teleporting instantly. And if you still have issues catching it, you can use hypnosis and night shade to guarantee that you won't knock it out.
It’s not a guaranteed encounter because you might get Jigglypuff or Ditto instead on Route 34. There are different encounters on Route 35 and if you miss both of these then it’s Game Corner or Kanto.
@@C_Train74 that’s exactly it. He has probably been saving videos up for around a year. Each of these videos probably take 3-5 days to produce and he has 30 lined up.
Starting a day with a Jrose run, chilling in the middle of the day with a Jrose run, ending the day with a Jrose run.....always a good time for a Jrose run. Loving this month of Jrose
This is why I consider species clause to be a buff, it gives you much better control over your catches, especially when you realise you can use repels and an appropriately levelled pokemon to narrow down encounters even further. Not to say that you shouldn't use it, I just think it's an overall buff that makes nuzlockes more consistent. Really loving the videos lately, can't wait to see how you tackle the next generations :)
I really like it because it gives you some control over rng. Also would be stupid to use 7 rattatas :D or miss encounters because you "already have it".
@@JPIQQG yeah I also play with it for the same reason, I just brought it up because I believe Jrose originally says it makes the game harder in his first nuzlocke video
Thank you for putting your own personality into a nuzlocke commentary and story. There are a lot of these out there so to be unique and genuine at once is a rare pleasure.
This channel is perfect for when you catch the worst of colds (or the like). See, I am currently ill and bedridden. All day up until now, I have been unable to do much but lie with my eyes closed and wait things out as I drifted in and out of sleep. This is how I realized that these videos are so well narrated that you can follow the journey damn near perfectly, even with your eyes shut. Jrose, I doubt you'll see a comment on a video this old, but God damn I love you right now! You made the suckiest of days bearable, almost even enjoyable for me. Keep up the fine work and have a good one! 🤒👍
Amazing work, it's also great that you incorporated the level cap for Kanto Gym Leaders, everyone else I've seen just uses the cap for Blue after Lance. And I love that you are going there underleveled and not just full party max cap level, calculating every move with a move calculator.
I'm glad you don't hack in rare candies. I hate how people act like it's still hard to nuzlocke when you use rare candies. Playing through naturally you'd never have a full team equal to the gym leaders ace. A rare candied level cap actually puts you at a significant advantage over playing normal.
If you’re doing a hardcore nuzlocke especially of a harder romhack, you’re just shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t have a fully leveled team for each bossfight. Candies or no, you’re just playing bad if you go in unprepared and underleveled.
@@midnightmadness6344 Part of the actual challenge, though, is that you are competing against your own psychology - how much do you want to tolerate the boredom of leveling up to Ace level and trivializing the fight VS taking the risk sooner? The entire challenge is effectively pointless because too many casuals want to pretend to be hardcore.
@@far2ez if simply being on level is trivializing the game for you, then you need to download some tougher ROMHacks since you’ve clearly graduated from vanilla Pokemon.
I appreciate your daily videos sooooo much! I'm at the hospital since 1st (nothing major but still) and they help me relax and keep my mind off things. Thank you!
the rule youre using for overleveling is cool I like to relax the level cap as soon as the gym leader fight starts but its a difference of opinion like that which really shows how modular Nuzlocking is
@@petelee2477 Depends where in the game you are at, if you are early on (which unless you're in a randomizer, you're highly unlikely to encounter a trainer with a blissey pre gym 5), that is maybe one level or two. Anything past level 40 and you don't really gain that much (a lower level blissey gives like around 800- 1200 exp if I'm not mistaken, with level 50-60 being around 2-3K, which at that point isn't that much)
the rule i always played with was, if a pokemon leveled up in the gym leader fight, past the level of the gym leaders highest level pokemon, then its still free game to use, since it was at the gym leaders ace pokemon level before you entered the fight. In my last Nuzlocke of heartgold, i remember grinding for ages, getting my team of 6 to level 20-21 just for Whitney.
@@DKQuagmire problem with this is then you can just level up until you are only 1 exp away from being higher level than the ace. You now guarantee yourself a higher level pokemon
All these really time-consuming well done videos in Decemeber. Happy to see them doing well, and hopefully the December CPM turns out good and a nice pay day is coming. Well deserved!
As a tip, because Nuzlockes, even hardcore, are very personal with rulesets. Providing the rules you follow as a document, a comment, or in the description would be very nice, though in theory not necessary, but it may reduce the number of "That's not the way Nuzlockes should be played >:(" comments. I was just thinking that when you mentioned something about level caps that are different from how I've seen (and how I personally play) level caps. Very fun video and I love the idea of needing a new team to accommodate the level caps of Kanto.
Main nuzlocke rules: Any fainted Pokemon is dead Can only catch the first Pokémon on each route with the exception of “species clause” Nicknaming Jrose doesn’t do this one though
I am loving this transformation arc of Jrose going from pokemon entertainer to pokemon entertainer AND mentor! The fact that he chose pokemon that could be guaranteed is a really cool thing to do for those who wish to follow up on his run with one of their own and works as an awesome guide. The anecdotes of situations he has encountered as well is a nice touch. I dont know what his ultimate career goals are but I feel like he'd be a great professor. Thanks again for the video!
First off another great vid, the info is so helpful and its entertaining as always. I really see why youre not a nuzlock guy. The point is that you have a random team that you have fun with while increasing the difficulty. But you found some super interesting exploits the same way you do with your other vids like your solo runs. Very Jrose
Coming here to say I’m loving your nuzlocke series, yeah super hard technical runs are cool every once in a while but if you’re looking up every trainers team in advance what is the point in even playing. Very refreshing my fren keep it up
27:22 explains Seal learns icebeam at 37 and dewgong at 40. Has a dewgong at 37 with icebeam. Assuming maybe seal learns it at 36 and 37 was the target level that you can, at the earliest, have a dewgong with icebeam?
Great video once again bud. As a seasoned nuzlocker I do enjoy the old gens being broken down. The ONE thing I will never support is the argument about not using rare candies. The challenge has level caps to ensure you don't over level and RARE CANDIES MAKE YOUR MONS WEAKER ---> you don't grind EVs when you level up with candies. I would never blame you for not agreeing, but it's a fact a lot of people oversee! I'll keep watching regardless. It's fun to see you discover the monstrous world of nuzlocking
The one and only challenge in a nuzlocke is psychological. Absolutely nobody is doubting whether or not these ultra easy/trivial games can be beaten with a handful of arbitrary rules. There's no failure case, which makes these challenges trivial by definition - not hardcore. The only failure case that _could_ exist is that you give up. And know what kinds of things make you give up? The frustration of losing a run that you actually spent the last 2 weeks on - staying up at night to catch the right pokemon sometimes, resetting when you get no good pokemon to appear for days in a row, an unlucky crit killing a run that was shaping up so promisingly and the knowledge that the next run will be 2+ weeks away, etc. Speedup, rare candies, clock adjustments - they're all the same softcore bullcrap that is basically casuals wanting to be able to put a "hardcore" pin on their chest. If you can blast out the entire challenge in an hour, there's nothing difficult about it. JRose says it himself: using his strategy, you can effectively guarantee a specific team with his rulesets. Considering the entire game takes about 2 hours and he has found a consistent setup strategy (that DOESN'T involve rare candies because they aren't needed), I GUARANTEE you could pump out a Nuzlocke run start-to-finish with damn-near 100% consistency in about 30 minutes using a speedup with rare candies and clock manip. Yeah, eyeroll, so hardcore. Nuzlockes weren't intended to be a puzzle game where you just solve it and execute the same strategy every time. Randomizer helps a lot with this but rare candies and other crap still trivialize the only difficult facet of the run (the psychological barrier). Overall, easy challenge for bad gamers.
I'm glad to hear about your encounters, like how you wanted a specific pokemon but ended up with Sunkern. Watching other poketubers do Nuzlocke, they seem to suspiciously end up getting every single pokemon they planned for. Hearing you miss out on a pokemon because it just wasn't your encounter makes this so much more believable than others' runs.
In general, nuzlocking is extremely easy. If you're actually serious about having a real challenge that tests your ability to actually win (i.e., tolerate defeat and overcome the desire to give up), you need to be far more restrictive. Duplicate rule but no species rule (i.e. can't catch two but can't discount first one), no rare candies, no speedup, no clock changing, etc.
Nice! I’m really interested to see how this one goes! Seems like it’ll be pretty difficult to catch up to Red. Thanks again for all the amazing content this month!
It is interesting to se that you chose to have level caps within the battle too, most people i see doing hc nuzlockes have the level cap end after the battle starts against the gym leader so they can start at the same level and over level during it
Amazing soundtracks while playing the game Clefairy place, route 1 route 3, radio tower Why didn't hoenn have stuff this fire It had graphics Gen 2 is easy btw just start totodile or level up a geodude n always start NIGHTTIME, day encounters suck besides spearow and caterpie You also have chance at psyduck in azalea avoid the worthless sandshrew n hoppip The ONLY ENCOUNTERS that benefit day is west of ecruteak and national park bug catching contest Everything else IS BETTER NIGHTTIME
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 video game music is generally trash. I find most people that enjoy video game music are degenerate weebs that also like anime music.
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 geodude and Ghastly from sprout tower. And you've got two Mons for the whole distance. Daytime starts definitely leave you a little short
I would love to see future nuzlocke runs from you. It'd be really cool to see you break down your thought processes for difficult trainers like this in other games. There's a whole world of ROM hacks that I think it would be really enjoyable to see you play through that have become challenge runs all by themselves. I don't think that many people on youtube have done these games either. Basically just pChal.
21:32 I've been playing pokemon literally before I could read. My cousin's copy of Blue, my first own game was LeafGreen. This is the first time I heard of this.
Jrose I apologize I never watch any of these videos all the way through I listen to them as I fall asleep most nights but I promise we know how hard you work and appreciate you keep grinding my friend
The fact that you have to grind up 2 separate teams in order to get through the Elite 4 and Kanto makes it hard to imagine a more suboptimal game to Hardcore Nuzlocke.
You can actually pick up 1 repel in the route before Union cave, and it's not enough to be able to get all the way but it gets you through most of the cave which if you're lucky you can get no encounters and get lapras later
The community doing Hardcore Nuzlockes have literally Leveled up the community’s a whole . I’ve watched as everyone played much smarter and Improved over the short couple years🔥🔥🔥
I have so much respect for Jrose I can’t even describe it. The amount of content he provides and the quality of that content is absolutely top notch. Fantastic creator.
I'm still a firm believer that cyndaquil is the best starter for gen 2 games because it's just like charizard without flying moves. Still no shame for totodile in these type of challenges. Finding a good water type in nuzlockes is just as hard as finding a good fire type in johto.
THis is a very different style of nuzlocke video. I think I prefer the ones that tell a story rather than systematically demolish the game format, but this has its place too
The only nuzlock I ever had the patience for was in Crystal, once normally and once with a randomizer, and I beat it like I was Jeremy Clarkson and only lost 2 or 3 pokemon both times. So I'm surprised this generation is apparently the hardest
"I don't think it compromises the integrity of the run or anything" Challenge runs like nuzlockes are something we do for fun, not prestige or internet points or whatever Do whatever rules bring you joy!
I'm wondering if it's viable to save Shadow Ball for Snorlax for late game. He learns it, you can Curse and Rest with a Mint Berry. Just a thought I had while watching. Great work as always!
I really appreciate the different pokemon used here and also the under leveling. I would have liked to hear and maybe see more of the failed attempts too but that is maybe out of scope for this video.
The most fun I ever had in a nuzlocke was a hard-core silver trashlocke (any pokemon with over 400 base stats banned). All I can say is thank God for Kadabra
I'm guessing that this is going to be very difficult, simply because of GSC's awful level scaling, You basically need to get 7 badges before passing Lv 30!
I have a few variations to nuzlockes that I think are laregly in keeping with the rules and spirit of the run, but one biggie specific to Gen 2 runs: Sacred Ash. As Ho-oh canonically revives the dead, the Sacred Ash is a full resurrection item, usuable on a single Pokemon. As exploits are typically not permitted, there's no duplicating it. It's a get out of jail free card, but it's the only one you get. If you REALLY want to be lore specifc, it may be used on a total of 3, but for the leniency it grants already, restricting it to one seems the most reasonable.
It seems you really do need to know these games inside and out to have any real hope in these nuzlockes. No point going in blind as you will have no working strategy. Looks fun though
I remember sending Wobbuffet against Karen' Umbreon thinking it will be an easy win with counter, but soon I realized her Umbreon could only attack with dark type moves, which are special. Mirror Coat is a psychic type move so it doesn't work and the Umbreon used mean look. I forgot one detail which condemned my Wobbuffet to the shadow realm
You dont even need to worry about Whitneys miltank. Just get TM 28 - Dig from the National Park. Rollout will never hit more than once, and thus will never gain power
Gotta say the one thing that I'll never get bored of is knowing that you play with no shaders or other quality-diminishing things, you bring your own style and its fun to watch (and while I'm at work listening to).
Alakazam with Psychic & the Elemental punches is definitely OP! I mean your personal fav is a mid-stage evolution & eats Lance for breakfast with this combo...
Once did a swap and drop run for HGSS (once a Pokémon has been in a gym battle you can't reuse it) and it made me realise how valuable a lot of weaker Pokemon are in that game.
I always play with a gift clause and do not consider gifts like Odd Egg and Eevee as encounters because they are not encounters in my eyes. These options just make sense to me.
Regarding Lapras in Crystal… I got Rattata on 46, Zubat on 30, Geodude in Dark Cave, and Wooper on 32. In my case it’s a 5% Zubat encounter that sort of helped kicked this off, and I haven’t checked other combinations or route encounters but this doesn’t feel that crazy lucky. I managed to miss the 5% Onix encounter in Union Cave, so should I prioritize a Lapras?! Wish me luck!
The unfortunate thing with Sneasel is it can't take advantage of its stab types, similar to Gengar and a bunch of other gen 1-3 Pokemon. I'm still shocked that Ghost was physical and dark was special, when most of those Pokemon felt like they were the opposite specialty, with exceptions like Houndoom and Banette. The moves themselves almost felt like they should have been the opposite split (Ghost having Shadow Ball, and every single attacking Dark type move from gens 1-3 are now physical).
Jrose getting "humbled" by a harder nuzlocke and realizing he needs to actually make / follow a plan is the kind of character development I'm here for
28:51 There's a hidden Repel on Route 32 in the tall grass to the left of Picnicker Liz just before Union Cave. Just tested on Crystal version and with decent pathing, you CAN get through Union Cave the first time without any wild encounters. Since Repels can be bought in Azalea town, right after Union Cave you only need to get through it once. This opens up Lapras as a team option if you're willing to put in the effort.
Damn, if only I knew this sooner
I’ve never watched anyone use repel strats until Jrose
I used it in my last two nuzlockes because it’s not against any rules
You could even use repel strats to catch legendaries if you allow them in your nuzlocke
@@aceclover758In Hoenn people have to repel on Route 116 to get a garunteed Whismur in Rusturf Tunnel due to it being the only encounter there, That way an encounter isn't wasted on Route 116 where Whismur can also be found.
Also, I think the NPC who trades an Onix for a Bellsprout in Gold and Silver is still in Crystal, so it'd be possible in that case to trade for the Onix if you get a Bellsprout.
@@reillywalker195 yeah but Onyx is bad
Fun fact: if you can guarantee Ghastly, you can guarantee Abra without the game corner if you keep Mean Look. So long as it's decently leveled, it's speed is comparable and you can stop it from teleporting instantly. And if you still have issues catching it, you can use hypnosis and night shade to guarantee that you won't knock it out.
It’s not a guaranteed encounter because you might get Jigglypuff or Ditto instead on Route 34. There are different encounters on Route 35 and if you miss both of these then it’s Game Corner or Kanto.
I was today years old when I learned that Mr this came out in Gen 2
@@phatalmassacre2268Who??
@@nolongeraperson I think he tried to say "misdreavus"
@@Supahdenning Nah fam, Mr This.
How are you churning out these 1 hour videos everyday? GOAT Pokemon content creator.
He has 4x speed up irl
He has custom clones that make these
Using old twitch recordings with months of work before announcing the month of jrose.
He went quiet for awhile. I think he was gearing up for this.
@@C_Train74 that’s exactly it. He has probably been saving videos up for around a year. Each of these videos probably take 3-5 days to produce and he has 30 lined up.
The month of JRose has been awesome and honestly I’m going to miss it when it’s gone. Thank you so much for this!
Let's make 2023 the year of jrose!
Nothing like ending a night with a Jrose run. You're the man! Keep it up
You can say that again
Or finishing work :O
True! It's very much appreciated. Thank you Jrose
seriously love falling asleep to his videos randomly waking up enjoy some poke cotent for a bit and then fall backasleep lol
Starting a day with a Jrose run, chilling in the middle of the day with a Jrose run, ending the day with a Jrose run.....always a good time for a Jrose run. Loving this month of Jrose
I'm really going to miss this month of JRose, been LOVING the daily vids!
Look alive there’s a new month of Jrose now
This is why I consider species clause to be a buff, it gives you much better control over your catches, especially when you realise you can use repels and an appropriately levelled pokemon to narrow down encounters even further. Not to say that you shouldn't use it, I just think it's an overall buff that makes nuzlockes more consistent. Really loving the videos lately, can't wait to see how you tackle the next generations :)
I really like it because it gives you some control over rng. Also would be stupid to use 7 rattatas :D or miss encounters because you "already have it".
@@JPIQQG yeah I also play with it for the same reason, I just brought it up because I believe Jrose originally says it makes the game harder in his first nuzlocke video
not a fan of species clause, it's against the spirit of nuzlocke imo because you can choose what pokemon to use so much more
But it also blocks you from getting unlimited gyarados.
@@twiddlebit 👍
God crystal just looks so good. Something about 2d sprites makes pokemon seem so much more emotive
Slowbro is unironically really good.
I remember having one vs Red and he was really under leveled but still managed to hold his own.
Can take hits and a very impressive move pool for this gen
@Sniper Did you mean 'horrific' idea? Cause Slowbro is quite... slow. Those EVs would be wasted on it.
The MVP of Emerald Kaizo *BAYBEEE*
@SniperShivOfficial total waste. Max out hp and spA And give it specs or leftovers.
Thanks guys!
Thank you for putting your own personality into a nuzlocke commentary and story. There are a lot of these out there so to be unique and genuine at once is a rare pleasure.
This channel is perfect for when you catch the worst of colds (or the like).
See, I am currently ill and bedridden. All day up until now, I have been unable to do much but lie with my eyes closed and wait things out as I drifted in and out of sleep. This is how I realized that these videos are so well narrated that you can follow the journey damn near perfectly, even with your eyes shut.
Jrose, I doubt you'll see a comment on a video this old, but God damn I love you right now!
You made the suckiest of days bearable, almost even enjoyable for me. Keep up the fine work and have a good one!
🤒👍
"But Magcargo, super super great" is a new sentence
Well deserved, I should say ;)
Amazing work, it's also great that you incorporated the level cap for Kanto Gym Leaders, everyone else I've seen just uses the cap for Blue after Lance. And I love that you are going there underleveled and not just full party max cap level, calculating every move with a move calculator.
Most people do calcs when they have extra restrictions or doing a more difficult romhack.
@@Begeru - Really? "Most"? Where'd you get that statistic? lol
I'm glad you don't hack in rare candies. I hate how people act like it's still hard to nuzlocke when you use rare candies. Playing through naturally you'd never have a full team equal to the gym leaders ace. A rare candied level cap actually puts you at a significant advantage over playing normal.
If you’re doing a hardcore nuzlocke especially of a harder romhack, you’re just shooting yourself in the foot if you don’t have a fully leveled team for each bossfight. Candies or no, you’re just playing bad if you go in unprepared and underleveled.
People only do that in challenging nuzlockes, such as rom hacks and monotype.
@@midnightmadness6344 Part of the actual challenge, though, is that you are competing against your own psychology - how much do you want to tolerate the boredom of leveling up to Ace level and trivializing the fight VS taking the risk sooner?
The entire challenge is effectively pointless because too many casuals want to pretend to be hardcore.
@@far2ez if simply being on level is trivializing the game for you, then you need to download some tougher ROMHacks since you’ve clearly graduated from vanilla Pokemon.
Not a big fan of Nuzlocke videos, but seriously, the way you do and all the information you give through it makes so much enjoyable. Great video!
I appreciate your daily videos sooooo much! I'm at the hospital since 1st (nothing major but still) and they help me relax and keep my mind off things. Thank you!
This series is amazing Jrose. So glad you got into Nuzlockes.
I mean technically Magnemite can be traded back to Gen I to learn Thunderbolt. So, it's a legit move for Jasmines Magnemites to have.
Also crystal move tutor has it as well
@@fleeper20 Yes, that's correct. Although her Magnemite have that move even in Gold/Silver before those Move Tutors were available.
Dang man. Really appreciate all the hard work you’ve been putting in. You’re doing a great job
Wow that switch into Kadabra vs steelix was ballsy as hell lol thought the video was going to take a dark turn there
Frrr that could've just murdered
the rule youre using for overleveling is cool I like to relax the level cap as soon as the gym leader fight starts but its a difference of opinion like that which really shows how modular Nuzlocking is
100% - each to their own but for me, can’t be higher than their highest when the battle starts but If you level up during then it’s fair game
@@lemurw431 if you knock out something like a blissey though you could easily gain 5 levels
@@petelee2477 Depends where in the game you are at, if you are early on (which unless you're in a randomizer, you're highly unlikely to encounter a trainer with a blissey pre gym 5), that is maybe one level or two. Anything past level 40 and you don't really gain that much (a lower level blissey gives like around 800- 1200 exp if I'm not mistaken, with level 50-60 being around 2-3K, which at that point isn't that much)
the rule i always played with was, if a pokemon leveled up in the gym leader fight, past the level of the gym leaders highest level pokemon, then its still free game to use, since it was at the gym leaders ace pokemon level before you entered the fight. In my last Nuzlocke of heartgold, i remember grinding for ages, getting my team of 6 to level 20-21 just for Whitney.
@@DKQuagmire problem with this is then you can just level up until you are only 1 exp away from being higher level than the ace.
You now guarantee yourself a higher level pokemon
I love this style of nuzlocke video, I hope you continue to make more!
"Marcargo, super super great"
Think that is the first time I've heard that said, unironically
All these really time-consuming well done videos in Decemeber. Happy to see them doing well, and hopefully the December CPM turns out good and a nice pay day is coming. Well deserved!
This is my favorite video ever ❤️
You're right, this was brutal and infinitely entertaining, and in my favorite gen.
As a tip, because Nuzlockes, even hardcore, are very personal with rulesets. Providing the rules you follow as a document, a comment, or in the description would be very nice, though in theory not necessary, but it may reduce the number of "That's not the way Nuzlockes should be played >:(" comments.
I was just thinking that when you mentioned something about level caps that are different from how I've seen (and how I personally play) level caps.
Very fun video and I love the idea of needing a new team to accommodate the level caps of Kanto.
100%. I had trouble enjoying the video since I had no idea the rule set.
Main nuzlocke rules:
Any fainted Pokemon is dead
Can only catch the first Pokémon on each route with the exception of “species clause”
Nicknaming
Jrose doesn’t do this one though
I am loving this transformation arc of Jrose going from pokemon entertainer to pokemon entertainer AND mentor! The fact that he chose pokemon that could be guaranteed is a really cool thing to do for those who wish to follow up on his run with one of their own and works as an awesome guide. The anecdotes of situations he has encountered as well is a nice touch. I dont know what his ultimate career goals are but I feel like he'd be a great professor. Thanks again for the video!
Have you seen any other nuzlocke vidoes?
First off another great vid, the info is so helpful and its entertaining as always. I really see why youre not a nuzlock guy. The point is that you have a random team that you have fun with while increasing the difficulty. But you found some super interesting exploits the same way you do with your other vids like your solo runs. Very Jrose
Its nice to see you do a nuzlocke again after the solo runs :)
Coming here to say I’m loving your nuzlocke series, yeah super hard technical runs are cool every once in a while but if you’re looking up every trainers team in advance what is the point in even playing. Very refreshing my fren keep it up
27:22 explains Seal learns icebeam at 37 and dewgong at 40. Has a dewgong at 37 with icebeam. Assuming maybe seal learns it at 36 and 37 was the target level that you can, at the earliest, have a dewgong with icebeam?
Seel levels up to 37, learns ice beam upon level up, then evolves after the battle. Dewgong ice beam at lvl 37.
@@Sailman202 misheard. Watched it again. Did not know that it was level 34 that seel could evolve
Love the mix of different videos you are putting out. Keep up the hard work
Every one of these videos this month have been amazing! Thank you for your hard work - I’ll be rewatching these forever!!
Great video once again bud.
As a seasoned nuzlocker I do enjoy the old gens being broken down.
The ONE thing I will never support is the argument about not using rare candies. The challenge has level caps to ensure you don't over level and RARE CANDIES MAKE YOUR MONS WEAKER ---> you don't grind EVs when you level up with candies.
I would never blame you for not agreeing, but it's a fact a lot of people oversee!
I'll keep watching regardless. It's fun to see you discover the monstrous world of nuzlocking
The one and only challenge in a nuzlocke is psychological. Absolutely nobody is doubting whether or not these ultra easy/trivial games can be beaten with a handful of arbitrary rules.
There's no failure case, which makes these challenges trivial by definition - not hardcore.
The only failure case that _could_ exist is that you give up. And know what kinds of things make you give up? The frustration of losing a run that you actually spent the last 2 weeks on - staying up at night to catch the right pokemon sometimes, resetting when you get no good pokemon to appear for days in a row, an unlucky crit killing a run that was shaping up so promisingly and the knowledge that the next run will be 2+ weeks away, etc.
Speedup, rare candies, clock adjustments - they're all the same softcore bullcrap that is basically casuals wanting to be able to put a "hardcore" pin on their chest. If you can blast out the entire challenge in an hour, there's nothing difficult about it.
JRose says it himself: using his strategy, you can effectively guarantee a specific team with his rulesets. Considering the entire game takes about 2 hours and he has found a consistent setup strategy (that DOESN'T involve rare candies because they aren't needed), I GUARANTEE you could pump out a Nuzlocke run start-to-finish with damn-near 100% consistency in about 30 minutes using a speedup with rare candies and clock manip. Yeah, eyeroll, so hardcore.
Nuzlockes weren't intended to be a puzzle game where you just solve it and execute the same strategy every time. Randomizer helps a lot with this but rare candies and other crap still trivialize the only difficult facet of the run (the psychological barrier). Overall, easy challenge for bad gamers.
I'm glad to hear about your encounters, like how you wanted a specific pokemon but ended up with Sunkern. Watching other poketubers do Nuzlocke, they seem to suspiciously end up getting every single pokemon they planned for. Hearing you miss out on a pokemon because it just wasn't your encounter makes this so much more believable than others' runs.
Which runs are you talking about?
Watching that fight against Clair's Kingdra gave me secondhand anger. Those bloody smokescreens.
"This nuzlock is so hard"
*proceeds to win 20 levels under the cap*
In general, nuzlocking is extremely easy. If you're actually serious about having a real challenge that tests your ability to actually win (i.e., tolerate defeat and overcome the desire to give up), you need to be far more restrictive. Duplicate rule but no species rule (i.e. can't catch two but can't discount first one), no rare candies, no speedup, no clock changing, etc.
Nice! I’m really interested to see how this one goes! Seems like it’ll be pretty difficult to catch up to Red. Thanks again for all the amazing content this month!
Hi, I like your content ! Do you think you could create a Gen 2 challenges playlist with all these videos in it ? It would be great. Thanks !
It is interesting to se that you chose to have level caps within the battle too, most people i see doing hc nuzlockes have the level cap end after the battle starts against the gym leader so they can start at the same level and over level during it
I really love the gen 2 videos. I came into the scene with pokemon silver so seeing these runs is definitely nostalgic
Still not naming his Pokémon. That’s like the best and arguably the most important part! You’re supposed to form a bond!
The harder the Nuzlocke, the funner it is.
I know you had to edit all these vids wayyy in advance but its still insane to see so many high quality jrose vids back to back to back!
my guy pumping out these challenges everyday like its nothing
Gen 2 was so good. The best generation in my opinion.
Amazing soundtracks while playing the game
Clefairy place, route 1 route 3, radio tower
Why didn't hoenn have stuff this fire
It had graphics
Gen 2 is easy btw just start totodile or level up a geodude n always start NIGHTTIME, day encounters suck besides spearow and caterpie
You also have chance at psyduck in azalea avoid the worthless sandshrew n hoppip
The ONLY ENCOUNTERS that benefit day is west of ecruteak and national park bug catching contest
Everything else IS BETTER NIGHTTIME
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 video game music is generally trash. I find most people that enjoy video game music are degenerate weebs that also like anime music.
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 geodude and Ghastly from sprout tower. And you've got two Mons for the whole distance. Daytime starts definitely leave you a little short
34:20 Foul Play was actually introduced in Gen V
Neat run & analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
1) You can level up safely with the EXP share. You get it from Mr Pokemon after beating / catching red gyrados.
Love that the final battle was mano a mano. I always try to do that with my teams and major 6v6 battles
I was a part of this experience Josh. I'm loving the month of Jrose
I would love to see future nuzlocke runs from you. It'd be really cool to see you break down your thought processes for difficult trainers like this in other games. There's a whole world of ROM hacks that I think it would be really enjoyable to see you play through that have become challenge runs all by themselves. I don't think that many people on youtube have done these games either. Basically just pChal.
21:32 I've been playing pokemon literally before I could read. My cousin's copy of Blue, my first own game was LeafGreen. This is the first time I heard of this.
Really appreciate your commitment to not sacrificing Pokemon during your final battle. These guys are your friends! You shouldn't just let them die
Jrose I apologize I never watch any of these videos all the way through I listen to them as I fall asleep most nights but I promise we know how hard you work and appreciate you keep grinding my friend
40:18 - EVOLVE THAT PUPPY! Both funny and informative at the same time 😂
The fact that you have to grind up 2 separate teams in order to get through the Elite 4 and Kanto makes it hard to imagine a more suboptimal game to Hardcore Nuzlocke.
CINCO BINGOOOOOOO!!!! Love the videos and this entire month has been poggers.
You can actually pick up 1 repel in the route before Union cave, and it's not enough to be able to get all the way but it gets you through most of the cave which if you're lucky you can get no encounters and get lapras later
Glad I found this channel. These videos have all been very entertaining!
*Thanks for all your hard work and dedication to Pokemon and your fans much love and may you catch them all my friend*
I love how Jrose uses Rage, even though he constantly says how bad it is. (I know it was changed in Gen 2)
Rage is good in the early game of Gen II when most Pokémon know only weak moves. What made it bad in Gen I was that it locked its user into using it.
The community doing Hardcore Nuzlockes have literally Leveled up the community’s a whole . I’ve watched as everyone played much smarter and Improved over the short couple years🔥🔥🔥
Any chance we get a montage of your losses on this run? Curious what areas were trickiest for you
I’m loving the theses from the prospective from jrose I love the way this man comes up with out of the box strategies
Jrose, your making me want to do something as consistent and high quality as you do. Thanks for all this content man☆
I felt that Goldeen shade in my soul at 3:48
One of the few legitimately terrible pokemon
Thanks!
I have so much respect for Jrose I can’t even describe it. The amount of content he provides and the quality of that content is absolutely top notch. Fantastic creator.
I'm still a firm believer that cyndaquil is the best starter for gen 2 games because it's just like charizard without flying moves.
Still no shame for totodile in these type of challenges. Finding a good water type in nuzlockes is just as hard as finding a good fire type in johto.
THis is a very different style of nuzlocke video. I think I prefer the ones that tell a story rather than systematically demolish the game format, but this has its place too
The only nuzlock I ever had the patience for was in Crystal, once normally and once with a randomizer, and I beat it like I was Jeremy Clarkson and only lost 2 or 3 pokemon both times. So I'm surprised this generation is apparently the hardest
It's the "hardest" in the sense that even a casual like JRose could tackle it with a tiny amount of prep.
"I don't think it compromises the integrity of the run or anything"
Challenge runs like nuzlockes are something we do for fun, not prestige or internet points or whatever
Do whatever rules bring you joy!
You actually do geta. Repel in crystal version before Union cave. Use it to go through and come back with surf later and get the Lapras
"marcargo is great" pretty sure thats the first time thats ever been said. fun video as always keep up the good work
I'm wondering if it's viable to save Shadow Ball for Snorlax for late game. He learns it, you can Curse and Rest with a Mint Berry. Just a thought I had while watching. Great work as always!
You may as well go full gen 2 at that point and have Rest, sleep talk, curse, and return.
A Pokémon genius and insanely patient/persistent/insane! You’re the man
I really appreciate the different pokemon used here and also the under leveling. I would have liked to hear and maybe see more of the failed attempts too but that is maybe out of scope for this video.
I love at 5:50 on the video geodude looks like it’s playing Rock Paper Scissors with the wild geodude. 😂
I would love to see this series continue to later generations, even if you're not as familiar with them 🙏🏻
The most fun I ever had in a nuzlocke was a hard-core silver trashlocke (any pokemon with over 400 base stats banned).
All I can say is thank God for Kadabra
Man I’m gonna miss my daily Jrose dopamine hit once this marathon is over
I'm guessing that this is going to be very difficult, simply because of GSC's awful level scaling, You basically need to get 7 badges before passing Lv 30!
Awful? The level scaling is GREAT especially when youre doing a six members team and changing your members constantly
I actually really enjoyed these streams. They were really fun and relaxing to wind down and watch.
I have a few variations to nuzlockes that I think are laregly in keeping with the rules and spirit of the run, but one biggie specific to Gen 2 runs: Sacred Ash. As Ho-oh canonically revives the dead, the Sacred Ash is a full resurrection item, usuable on a single Pokemon. As exploits are typically not permitted, there's no duplicating it.
It's a get out of jail free card, but it's the only one you get. If you REALLY want to be lore specifc, it may be used on a total of 3, but for the leniency it grants already, restricting it to one seems the most reasonable.
I seriously don’t understand how you make so much content bro! Keep killing it. Thank you. Always so much to say about it all!!
It seems you really do need to know these games inside and out to have any real hope in these nuzlockes. No point going in blind as you will have no working strategy. Looks fun though
Dude keep the content coming. Love it
I'm living for these vids dude thank you do much
Hey hey! I watched a week of these attempts on twitch! Thank you for the month of Jrose
I remember sending Wobbuffet against Karen' Umbreon thinking it will be an easy win with counter, but soon I realized her Umbreon could only attack with dark type moves, which are special. Mirror Coat is a psychic type move so it doesn't work and the Umbreon used mean look.
I forgot one detail which condemned my Wobbuffet to the shadow realm
That is hilariously unfortunate lmao
It's been an Absolute treat to have one of these new each evening to wind down with as i smoke a little smoke and get ready for bed.
😄👍
You dont even need to worry about Whitneys miltank. Just get TM 28 - Dig from the National Park. Rollout will never hit more than once, and thus will never gain power
Gotta say the one thing that I'll never get bored of is knowing that you play with no shaders or other quality-diminishing things, you bring your own style and its fun to watch (and while I'm at work listening to).
Alakazam with Psychic & the Elemental punches is definitely OP! I mean your personal fav is a mid-stage evolution & eats Lance for breakfast with this combo...
Once did a swap and drop run for HGSS (once a Pokémon has been in a gym battle you can't reuse it) and it made me realise how valuable a lot of weaker Pokemon are in that game.
I always play with a gift clause and do not consider gifts like Odd Egg and Eevee as encounters because they are not encounters in my eyes. These options just make sense to me.
Regarding Lapras in Crystal… I got Rattata on 46, Zubat on 30, Geodude in Dark Cave, and Wooper on 32. In my case it’s a 5% Zubat encounter that sort of helped kicked this off, and I haven’t checked other combinations or route encounters but this doesn’t feel that crazy lucky. I managed to miss the 5% Onix encounter in Union Cave, so should I prioritize a Lapras?! Wish me luck!
The unfortunate thing with Sneasel is it can't take advantage of its stab types, similar to Gengar and a bunch of other gen 1-3 Pokemon. I'm still shocked that Ghost was physical and dark was special, when most of those Pokemon felt like they were the opposite specialty, with exceptions like Houndoom and Banette. The moves themselves almost felt like they should have been the opposite split (Ghost having Shadow Ball, and every single attacking Dark type move from gens 1-3 are now physical).