The future of the game is another issue against it. Nobody wants to pay $40 if they think the game is going to go free to play in 2 months or get shut down all together in 7 months
This right here. Gamers are fed up with games like this and are relishing in their failure. Two years ago they'd have given some slack, but after being outright abused by game studios and gaming press they've developed a zero tolerance approach to dumb games. AAA gaming will either change or go bankrupt, just like free markets are supposed to work.
@@ToeCutter0Not really.. I mean, Sony are still my top 5 equities asset in the investment portfolio after 10-11 years alongside my other holdings in Nvidia, Tesla and Tencent in terms of performance. Financially, they have been losing out here and there, BUT hardly catastrophic. Also, they technically had nothing to lose. Concord was essentially a free swing. If gamers are truly “fed up” why am I still benefitting financially as an investor OVER the period of “anger” and dismay from gamers? Gamers like you are literally all bark and no bite.
@JulliusTheGreat Well, the stats show the PS install base don't buy 1st party, 95% of their software sales is 3rd party. Makes sense they are chasing that PC market going forward
@@Sir_PsychMate, alongside Tesla, Nvida over a period of 5 years, Sony are still one of my best performing equity asset. People like you always cry, but financially, I couldn’t be happier with Sony. Says a lot when Nvidia’s growth since 2018-19 has been extremely profound.
Honestly character designs aint bad, if it wasnt a shitty comp shooter to shove a live service down our throats and was instead some sort of (for lack of better comparison) guardians of the galaxy clone, people probably would have enjoyed it
@@ohmnesiaI don’t know about that HD2 sold over 12 million copies. If no one ever played the game again. They made their money back many times over and were far more successful than they or anyone ever thought.
@@XxZannexX Yet it could've been in the upper echelon of team based shooters and be consistently played by a lot of players, yet with the Sony debacle and the devs actively trying to kill the game with the constant nerfs and questionable decisions that removes all the fun out of it, no wonder so many players have dropped it.
Fun fact I used to work retail and this store had a deal "buy one get one free". They one day decided to change the deal to buy one get one for 1 cent. Product options stayed the same, surprisingly the new deal sold more and customers felt like they got more. In truth the store made an extra cent off each sale. Why do I tell you this?? Because Free to play isn't free. At best if you don't spend any money your reliant on everyone else spending money@@glennhkboy Edit: it's all a matter of perspective and sometimes your perspective might be skewed
@@Endless_Cola Even with its current state, Helldivers 2 has provided me about 300 hours of fun gameplay. I probably wouldn't even last more than 3 hours in Concord
Tbf a good portion are only buying or playing due to either being sponsored, or so they can make a "I played concord so you dont have to" video. Idk the exact number, but probably a decent little portion.
I bet Marvel Rivals took way less time and have way more heroes and is way more stylistic, looks better, plays better and looks like an actual fun game to play.
It's really simple: this studio wanted to make a life service game. Naughty dog has always wanted to focus on single player games but was forced to by the old ceo. How incredibly unbelievable that a single player studio that has all of their employees and experience based on SP experience want to remain a single player studio.
If you check many news around cancelling TLOU multiplayer was that game did not had enough monetization opportunities. It was most probably not about how it looked.
People have played the game and said it was good the issue was that for nd to fully support the game with expansion it would require the entire studio to do so and they wouldn’t be able to work on anything else like nd is a 450 person studio and bungie was a 1300 people studio just to work on destiny expansions and marathon for naughty dog to support this game they would have to double in size or just form an entire new studio plus they wouldn’t be able to work on single player games
@@proggz39 Naaaah, even in 2's crazier moments it's not thematically suited for Marathon successor with that particular fast combat beast gameplay. Something like Wolfenstein: The New Order combat would be more appropriate, a blend of slower more methodical shooter gameplay and (partially in TNO's case) drip-fed storyline. Complete with dual-wielding and lugging around oversized weapons.
Lmao, sheep follow sheep. The hive mentality came into play with Wukong. Doesn’t make it that much of a superior 8,9/10 game that most make it out to be. Coming from someone who platniumed ALL of FromSoft titles: Level design is extremely average and the crafting system is pointless. Artstyle I will admit is great. Combat is pretty good but feels pretty repetitive and button mashy because there really aren't any enemies that ask anything of you in terms of pattern memorization or even challenge. Game still has many holes like swiss cheese and certainly a flawed game, but it is still worth playing but it is not in the upper echelon of games released over the past couple years.
I don’t think they will get shut down there is alot of high profile talent at the studio who are ex destiny warzone and apex devs I think they will get another chance
@@tyreefowlkes7455 do you honestly believe based on a recent gaming history that console numbers will be in millions? If you look at live service failures (last example SSKTJL) it seems that if player count is low on PC consoles even if the player count is higher will not save the game from being a financial flop.
I have to disagree that it was hard to predict the future of this game. You only need to look at the character design of this game and you'd know there and then it would flop. How the fuck does anyone sell this game with all these ugly characters? Plus, Marvel is releasing their own hero shooter in not too long, they just had a beta test. Plus, Mecha Break also had their beta test, and both of these games are free2play and with much better character rosters. Only someone blind and in a bubble could have believed this had any chance.
But Sony must have seen preorder numbers, which I’m guessing were not good they most probably new it will flop. Now they are working hard on wording for the next investors call explaining that partly it was the unfortunate release date.
@@oliverwilliam6931 Redfall sold like 10x more copies on Steam than Concord did, and that's in spite of it being $70 and on PC Game Pass day-one. Cope
The funniest thing I just heard: "Star Wars is going to take some of the spotlight next week" I know Spawn Wave is an old school star wars fan (as am i), but idt he truly understands how dead that franchise is. No one cares about it anymore. Disney killed it, which is an amazing feat to pull off.
There's legitimately at least 4 games that already do it better than Concord. Marvel Rivals is going to finish this one off. Who was this game even made for lol.
It was intended for the total number of ex-bungie devs who had been layed off by Sony, with the player counts not being too far off....as well as the game itself being made by ex-bungie devs. Some very interesting revelations with this one I'll say.
I just thought the characters were fugly and I didn't want to play as them. I feel like we're not allowed to say that but that's truly how I felt and why I didn't end up purchasing it.
Exactly! I actually prefer paying $40 and not having to deal with Microtransactions and battle Passes etc. I wouldn't mind paying for it if it wasn't they/them the game with uncool characters. I don't want to play as any of those people.
I just don't understand how they look at games like Elden Ring, Spider Man 2, etc. And go, you know what we should do, that trend that everyone is sick of: multiplayer shooters....
It’s a classic example of going to where the puck has been. If development took 8 years, then it means this was started in 2016, well before when all the hero live service shooters crashed and burned.
What's even crazier is the amount of money they've spent on marketing. I'm seeing ads all over the place. They're paying content creators to play it or make videos on it. All for 660 ppl on launch 🤣 Another common Sony L.
I did the math back then they made that tweet with the "statistics" of the open beta, which included PC and PS5, and didn't need a preorder on either. they proudly proclaimed that during that open beta there were 12 million kills. the first game mode you have to play is death match. that has a kill limit of 30. if we consider THE BEST CASE scenario aka. every game resulting in a 30-0 landslide win, we have 400k TDM matches. every match is 10 players. so 400k TDM matches = 4mio players over the entire weekend. but, as you can see, this is an unrealistically high estimate. because not only would this estimate need every game to be a 30-0 match, but also that every single player quit the game after a single match. both are obviously unrealistic to assume. so if every player played 2 landslide TDM matches, we are suddenly only at 2mio players. if they played 3, 4, 5 matches the number goes down accordingly. and the more kills the opposite team made in these matches, the less players we get again. so if we estimate every player playing 2 TDM matches, and every match being 30-29 close calls, we are only at 1mio players. this is also an unrealistic scenario, but a more realistic one than the 4mio scenario. the truth most likely is that it's lower than 1mio players during the open beta. because you have to assume that there are players that played dozens of matches, playing match types you unlock that don't have a kill limit and will result in even more kills per match. so adjust the estimate down from 1mio according to what you think is the most realistic scenario of matches being played by individual players, how many kills per match you think they did etc.
I honestly think that Concord would be better as a co-op mission based game like borderlands or could even have a interesting single-player campaing, that was my initial reasoning during the first 5 minutes of them showing the game, but they lost me completely when "5vs5" was said
Yeah, the Halo formula is the way to go: Single Player or Co Op campaign with optional multiplayer. I'm sick of all these live service games. Just soulless cash grabs
I hope the dudes in the suits finally come to grips with the reality that trying to win over that 5% who gives a damn about DEI just pisses off everyone else.
Diversity was one of Overwatch’s big selling points. And it still genuinely works well for them. Diversity is a core game component in terms of recognising and reacting to opponents. Just sounds like you’re trying to push a rhetoric
@@ddfb494355 Nah... ;just look at the character designs, Overwatch characters look fine. Concords characters look hideous and more like racist caricatures.
@@ddfb494355no man, I don't even play Overwatch, but none of those Concord character are even close of how good some OW charecters are. (Widowmaker, Genji, Reaper, Reinhart to name a few)
Even Redfall did 6k (Which for online game even 6k is abysmal) a Game Pass game.... Just think about it... 695. Even Gollum did 750 players on Steam a fuckın Gollum xd
Their push for this game on PS Stars is hilarious too. They wanted people to pre-order, buy, play, etc for points. I bet most aren't doing it. I'm not spending money for the equivalent to maybe $0.50 or $1 if you pre-ordered too.
Every investor in the West should be looking at Wukong, looking at Wukong's numbers, and calling the studios up to tell them to fire every "consultancy firm", drop the agendas, and make them something like the Eastern studios are doing.
First off that's exactly the problem that spawn wave was just talking about getting on the bandwagon now and five six years when the game is ready no one cares. Second hopefully the studios have learned our lessons from places like Blizzard, that have to bow down and tiptoe around the Chinese government to get their game approved. ultimately making it worse for the entire world
If you expect me to play 40 dollars I would expect at least 5 to 8 hours single player story mode. This giving cutscenes periodically without gameplay is just dumb. What are we doing? Are we watching tv or playing video game?
We can blame the price tag, even if it was free during a beta. The market, that only gave a chance to Marvel Rivals and that game Valve is actively trying to hide. The small budget from Sony. The bad weather. The elections. This game was made by developers for developers. As long as they keep chasing the modern audience the modern audience they'll get.
It’s wild that Sony had enough faith in this game to buy the studio but also decided to shut down Japan Studio. Concord isn’t a bad shooter either. The move would have been to either make it F2P or launch it into the subscription service.
Yeah from what all I have heard as far as gameplay its solid, its not bad or seem to be all that glitchy its just so generic for a $40 game, not to mention its a hero shooter that is way late to the party coming into a market that's kinda set in stone already, the devs would need to really nail the aesthetic to make this game stick out or at least come up with a unique gameplay gimmick.
@@IIPlayer15II yeah the beta was actually fun. I also respect the fact that they’re not doing the traditional “paid battle pass.” But yeah There’s little setting it apart from other competitors. And they’re all free. I’m not a fan of Microtransactions and would rather have a model like concord be the standard. But that’s, sadly, not the timeline we’re on.
Gotta give Firewalk the credit they deserve. I've never been so revolted by character design as much as some of these and only from a couple of seconds of exposure. Not easy and a record that may never be broken.
It died the minute it went full Sweet Baby Inc DEI, with virtue signalling and identity politics. I refuse to buy games that push social agendas over actually making a game that gamers want. Black Myth Wukong is what I’m playing this weekend.
People are saying it's Wukong that's killing Concord but on PC the truth is that Delta Force has sucked all the air out of the room. It's the best thing since old-school battlefield
The game is visually uninteresting and anyone who uses the word "woke" is immediately going to reject it. This is a dead franchise before it was even birthed. It could come out with the most banging gameplay, and people will still ignore it. It's that boring to look at.
Free to play with cosmetic microtransactions probably makes more sense for live service games than a one off purchase where you're not sure if the game is even going to be playable for long (either due to player count or the servers going offline). Although I'm not sure that Concord's art direction really lends itself well to consumer success with cosmetics.
You're forced to switch char after every round I believe so... youd need atleast 2 dozen good char designs AND throw out the price tag AND make the game significantly more action filled/faster to get any players back.
The fact they aren't boasting about player numbers or sale numbers is telling enough that it was a disaster. Sadly, no suits that were involved in putting out this garbage will face any repercussions.
actually playercount is getting worse over the weekend now.. so next month free to play and if that not works it will be closed down? Honestly i am suprised that it did not end up like hyenas cancelled during beta.
I was just about to say, WoW just released a new xpac too, if they released a bit ago when everyone was bored in s4 and looking for new stuff to do.... Also valve's new game got leaked and its already got a lil playerbase going on thats slowly growing.
How many of those 600 players are content creators working on a "I played Concord so you don't have to" videos? I would bet at least a third.
This. In every TH-cam's corner I find someone playing with a Playstation ad watermark on the stream
"WHATS GOING ON GUYS! Today were going to be checking out a little bit of Concord so you don't have to"
A lot of the players are also Sony employees
Seriously, these youtubers and streamers are part of the problem
Firewalk, Bend and Insomniac developers are playing it! They tweeted it out lol! 500 of those “players” are actual PlayStation employees lmao.
The future of the game is another issue against it. Nobody wants to pay $40 if they think the game is going to go free to play in 2 months or get shut down all together in 7 months
Or it gets folded into the sequel and you can’t play it anymore.
@@TomoEriGoto there's no chance of this getting a sequel
@@JulliusTheGreatI think he’s taking a jab at overwatch lol
Absofuckinlutely, I gave helldivers a try, but this! No way im wasting my time or money, being nothing & having no character is worse than being bad
$40 is not expensive 😂
"How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man?!"
“I hate the young people”
This right here. Gamers are fed up with games like this and are relishing in their failure. Two years ago they'd have given some slack, but after being outright abused by game studios and gaming press they've developed a zero tolerance approach to dumb games. AAA gaming will either change or go bankrupt, just like free markets are supposed to work.
Concord the latest DEIsaster of 2024 🤣😂😀
@@ToeCutter0Not really.. I mean, Sony are still my top 5 equities asset in the investment portfolio after 10-11 years alongside my other holdings in Nvidia, Tesla and Tencent in terms of performance.
Financially, they have been losing out here and there, BUT hardly catastrophic. Also, they technically had nothing to lose. Concord was essentially a free swing.
If gamers are truly “fed up” why am I still benefitting financially as an investor OVER the period of “anger” and dismay from gamers? Gamers like you are literally all bark and no bite.
@@BingChilling-hr1hh DEI - Didn't Earn It.
Concord and making all it can to not earn its money back.
:P
Sony releases Concord and refuses to port Bloodborne to PC. They hate money.
@@MrSupersonic2012 This whole gen is Sony hating success
@@Sir_Psychsadly they don't need to worry about it because consoles are selling
@JulliusTheGreat Well, the stats show the PS install base don't buy 1st party, 95% of their software sales is 3rd party. Makes sense they are chasing that PC market going forward
@@Sir_PsychMate, alongside Tesla, Nvida over a period of 5 years, Sony are still one of my best performing equity asset.
People like you always cry, but financially, I couldn’t be happier with Sony. Says a lot when Nvidia’s growth since 2018-19 has been extremely profound.
@@cbgg1585no one's crying and he is right. You can go play woke trash, but not us.
Not at all surprised that a hero shooter that has some of the worst character designs I've ever seen in a game isn't doing well.
That blue girl with the tail looks pretty cool
Honestly character designs aint bad, if it wasnt a shitty comp shooter to shove a live service down our throats and was instead some sort of (for lack of better comparison) guardians of the galaxy clone, people probably would have enjoyed it
@luigibro.1592 hahaha, sure man. Sorry, but must players want attractive and interesting designs, not supermarket aunties and homeless.
Too many of the characters evoke pure cringe. No one is looking at Concord and thinking "cool". It's doomed.
@@proggz39yeah, she is mildly okay, not the greatest but okay
good riddance. Sony believed more in this project than Helldivers 2 btw lmao.
And somehow they even fumbled Helldivers 2 in the end.
@@ohmnesiaI don’t know about that HD2 sold over 12 million copies. If no one ever played the game again. They made their money back many times over and were far more successful than they or anyone ever thought.
Everyone did.
The copium of the modern audience 😂😂
@@XxZannexX Yet it could've been in the upper echelon of team based shooters and be consistently played by a lot of players, yet with the Sony debacle and the devs actively trying to kill the game with the constant nerfs and questionable decisions that removes all the fun out of it, no wonder so many players have dropped it.
It looks “okay” but what makes this worth 40 dollars when Helldivers is the same price and Overwatch is free to play?
There’s no battle pass or mincrotransaction BS. It’s a game for $40 and that’s it
Overwatch wasn’t free to play
Overwatch 2 is free to play dummy
＆ Frist Decenden (free), & xdefiant (free), & The Final (free).
Fun fact I used to work retail and this store had a deal "buy one get one free". They one day decided to change the deal to buy one get one for 1 cent. Product options stayed the same, surprisingly the new deal sold more and customers felt like they got more. In truth the store made an extra cent off each sale. Why do I tell you this?? Because Free to play isn't free. At best if you don't spend any money your reliant on everyone else spending money@@glennhkboy
Edit: it's all a matter of perspective and sometimes your perspective might be skewed
@@Endless_Cola Even with its current state, Helldivers 2 has provided me about 300 hours of fun gameplay. I probably wouldn't even last more than 3 hours in Concord
Characters look like someone used a "randomize" button for each character.
Sorry I thought it was a WWE game lol
nah I seen far more aesthetically pleasing results from character creators on randomize
Looks like a BLM protest when you open the character select
Perfect diversity if you use random but realistically they probably canned several models that randomly turned out too pretty or handsome.
The big character with the front butt is my favorite.
Thank God the entirety of modern audience came in to support this game. All 600 of them.
I can imagine half of them were just fools who bought the game without knowing how bad it is.
Tbf a good portion are only buying or playing due to either being sponsored, or so they can make a "I played concord so you dont have to" video. Idk the exact number, but probably a decent little portion.
8 years to make several maps and a dozen of heroes... let that sink in.
They probably spent a lot of that time learning from The Professor.
DEI hires had to relearn everything from sratch in a slow pace least the studio gets accused of being a toxic environment because of "crunch".
This is what kills me the most 😂 8 years of developing what?!? That’s almost an entire decade 🫤
8 years ago overwatch released and the trailers for gotg2 were out. Explains a lot
I bet Marvel Rivals took way less time and have way more heroes and is way more stylistic, looks better, plays better and looks like an actual fun game to play.
Seemed like having Bungie as live service consultants to Sony was a bad purchase 😂
Bungie is only a name now, for many years all of the legends who made good games were chased away in favor of activists and diversity hires
@@BingChilling-hr1hh Microsoft's bullshit drove all of the talent away from Bungie years ago.
@@vectoralphaSec and Sony drove the remaining talent away
Served Sony right. They loss
@@gphunter99 What did Sony do?
Nobody gives a single F about these cookie cutter FPS games. People want games that are engaging and high quality.
Monke game ❤
Game is fun
Game is fun
Problem ?
cookie cutter fps game. meanwhile how many people are playing Cod?
Woke games 👎
I just wanna know: what the heck did the Last of Us game look like if that got canceled and THIS survived.
It’s even more insane than that. TLoU game was actually good. Concord never was good. Imagine the absurdity in that decision.
Makes no sense, people loved tlou multiplayer on PS3, Bungie must be the worst consultants ever in the industry.
It's really simple: this studio wanted to make a life service game. Naughty dog has always wanted to focus on single player games but was forced to by the old ceo. How incredibly unbelievable that a single player studio that has all of their employees and experience based on SP experience want to remain a single player studio.
If you check many news around cancelling TLOU multiplayer was that game did not had enough monetization opportunities.
It was most probably not about how it looked.
People have played the game and said it was good the issue was that for nd to fully support the game with expansion it would require the entire studio to do so and they wouldn’t be able to work on anything else like nd is a 450 person studio and bungie was a 1300 people studio just to work on destiny expansions and marathon for naughty dog to support this game they would have to double in size or just form an entire new studio plus they wouldn’t be able to work on single player games
Concord got the Modern Audience they were marketing to.
Modern Audience = the people not banned on ResetEra
I hope they like modern audience and make more games to them
Lgbt players 🤣🤣🤣
@@dinoXAs2 I hope too, just don't let em touch the existing IPs anymore
@@c1borgen They probably try to use them still, but maybe companies finally figure it out that they just destroy everything.
This is a prime example of chasing trends.
Well yeah obviously lol I’m sure you do too lil bro
@@michaelmyersplays4992i know exactly why you called him that 🤣
Fake trends.
@@michaelmyersplays4992 I found the one Concord defender. loL
No one wants to pay for a F2P game with terrible humpty dumpty characters.
game was already DOA and support wont last more than a year
Everyday the game is running, it’s bleeding money. Season 1 will be psn+ free. Season 2 F2P.
DBA Dead Before Arrival lol
A whole year is kind of a stretch
Good f*ing luck with Marathon next year, Bungie 😬
Really wish they went in the direction of a Doom 2016 for Marathon. Guess that would’ve made too much sense though
Bungie needs to go back to its roots and make some great single player games. Halo is still God tier story that they made
@@proggz39 Naaaah, even in 2's crazier moments it's not thematically suited for Marathon successor with that particular fast combat beast gameplay.
Something like Wolfenstein: The New Order combat would be more appropriate, a blend of slower more methodical shooter gameplay and (partially in TNO's case) drip-fed storyline. Complete with dual-wielding and lugging around oversized weapons.
Bungie is unalive to me. F them
@@kevinlee6003 That's what I thought marathon it was going to be, a singleplayer game with a multiplayer mode instead we got whatever that is..
Wukong: “Wow, sucks to be you.”
Lmao, sheep follow sheep. The hive mentality came into play with Wukong. Doesn’t make it that much of a superior 8,9/10 game that most make it out to be.
Coming from someone who platniumed ALL of FromSoft titles:
Level design is extremely average and the crafting system is pointless.
Artstyle I will admit is great. Combat is pretty good but feels pretty repetitive and button mashy because there really aren't any enemies that ask anything of you in terms of pattern memorization or even challenge.
Game still has many holes like swiss cheese and certainly a flawed game, but it is still worth playing but it is not in the upper echelon of games released over the past couple years.
"Laughs in monke".
@@cbgg1585 your comment is saltier then the entirety of the league community. Who did hurt you?
@@cbgg1585bro chill just because the monke is having fun doesn’t mean you should ruin the bananas for everyone
@@cbgg1585 You're talking utter shite.
600 people playing - there are 8 billion people on earth. Let that sink in.
Selling it at $40 they made a whopping…..$26,280 on steam. It’s sinking
steam takes 30% cut lol@@XerosigmaZ
wow, that modern audience is rly big.
The studio is definitely going to get shut down because of the live service market being so over-saturated.
Sony bought the entire Company just for this ONE GAME. It's insane actually.
Good.
Yup. If i want to play gaas game I just play Fortnite & Apex Legend. Why need other gaas game ? Unlike single player games can have many
I don’t think they will get shut down there is alot of high profile talent at the studio who are ex destiny warzone and apex devs I think they will get another chance
Yeah. People are so hungry for good single player games but they dont care.
What brings a smile to my face is Black Myth: Wukong is yet another single-player story rich game kicking another live-service game to the curb.
Not only that. Black Myth Wukong does not even pander to the diversity crud that these western games always seem to prioritize these days 😅
@@ryansordan1849nah it just goes through the Chinese governments oversight program to make sure it aligns with the country’s values
They could have at least doubled their numbers if they had released free-to-play. Imagine...1,300 players!
What's console numbers?
@@tyreefowlkes7455 do you honestly believe based on a recent gaming history that console numbers will be in millions?
If you look at live service failures (last example SSKTJL) it seems that if player count is low on PC consoles even if the player count is higher will not save the game from being a financial flop.
@@tyreefowlkes7455 Wow, tens of additional players, sony is boomin!
it's actually exactly what we expected.
More ppl were defending this game in the Kinda Funny comments then there are actually playing it lololol
"Hippies dont have money" - Eric Cartman
Because kinda funny is a echo chamber for liberal consumers.
Many hating it than defending it
Clown farming on Steam.
April???? Dude, this game won't last the year. All of these devs are going to get fired.
Good.
The characters are also not appealing
looks like kindergarten made these designs
it did set itself apart by making the entire roster as hideous as possible to the point where people don't even wanna look at it
It looks like a bunch of women on the marketing team bullied the male nerds into creating self-inserts of themselves
They had to cancel Days Gone 2 to fund this???
That and Factions is asinine of Sony
I have to disagree that it was hard to predict the future of this game. You only need to look at the character design of this game and you'd know there and then it would flop. How the fuck does anyone sell this game with all these ugly characters?
Plus, Marvel is releasing their own hero shooter in not too long, they just had a beta test. Plus, Mecha Break also had their beta test, and both of these games are free2play and with much better character rosters.
Only someone blind and in a bubble could have believed this had any chance.
I can see the developers of concord nervously waiting for that call from sony... :/
“8 years for this shiit?”
Sony is all in into this.
Good they deserve the call
But Sony must have seen preorder numbers, which I’m guessing were not good they most probably new it will flop.
Now they are working hard on wording for the next investors call explaining that partly it was the unfortunate release date.
Worse numbers than Redfall. Lol
Redfall is 5/10 on steam while this one is 9/10 hahaha
@@oliverwilliam6931 Redfall is actully worth a shot after all the updates. Concord is just straight up dog 💩
@@Mathieuacc It's 999999999999 on steam Redfall is 5555555 doshit
@@oliverwilliam6931 Redfall sold like 10x more copies on Steam than Concord did, and that's in spite of it being $70 and on PC Game Pass day-one. Cope
Worse than you thought, maybe....Not us.
The funniest thing I just heard:
"Star Wars is going to take some of the spotlight next week"
I know Spawn Wave is an old school star wars fan (as am i), but idt he truly understands how dead that franchise is. No one cares about it anymore. Disney killed it, which is an amazing feat to pull off.
There's legitimately at least 4 games that already do it better than Concord. Marvel Rivals is going to finish this one off. Who was this game even made for lol.
It was intended for the total number of ex-bungie devs who had been layed off by Sony, with the player counts not being too far off....as well as the game itself being made by ex-bungie devs.
Some very interesting revelations with this one I'll say.
@Mmachine88 it's made for the "modern audience" which is the laid off game devs from California and games journalists. It was NOT made for gamers.
Let’s be real is anyone that actually plays games surprised? Guess other than these higher ups.
I just thought the characters were fugly and I didn't want to play as them. I feel like we're not allowed to say that but that's truly how I felt and why I didn't end up purchasing it.
Exactly! I actually prefer paying $40 and not having to deal with Microtransactions and battle Passes etc.
I wouldn't mind paying for it if it wasn't they/them the game with uncool characters. I don't want to play as any of those people.
8 years?
EIGHT YEARS!!!???
How, why.....what??
No way!
if sweet baby inc is involved, just dont buy it lol
I just don't understand how they look at games like Elden Ring, Spider Man 2, etc. And go, you know what we should do, that trend that everyone is sick of: multiplayer shooters....
It’s a classic example of going to where the puck has been. If development took 8 years, then it means this was started in 2016, well before when all the hero live service shooters crashed and burned.
Spiderman 2 sucked
@@MathieuaccThat's why it sold more than Lamecord
@@macho8240 Redfall and Gollum sold more then Concord. That's not really an argument
No, that's about as bad as I expected.
I really thought they would get back to 2000 in steam first day. This was low for me haha
This man did not just compare this games reception to Titanfall 2... The game that had at least a million or more players at launch.
Titanfall 2 competing with Call of Duty and Battlefield is not the same as Concord competing with Wukong and Star Wars. Is this his first day?
What's even crazier is the amount of money they've spent on marketing. I'm seeing ads all over the place. They're paying content creators to play it or make videos on it.
All for 660 ppl on launch 🤣
Another common Sony L.
The subreddit for this game is hilarious. You have the few concord fanboys begging for mods to not allow people posting how dead the game is🤣🤣
This is the way of the left, whining and demanding censorship.
Players are also rejecting forced dei trash.
They literally shot themselves in the foot by making it 40$
even free it's DOA
Remember Sony Japan Studio died for this
I did the math back then they made that tweet with the "statistics" of the open beta, which included PC and PS5, and didn't need a preorder on either.
they proudly proclaimed that during that open beta there were 12 million kills.
the first game mode you have to play is death match. that has a kill limit of 30. if we consider THE BEST CASE scenario aka. every game resulting in a 30-0 landslide win, we have 400k TDM matches.
every match is 10 players. so 400k TDM matches = 4mio players over the entire weekend.
but, as you can see, this is an unrealistically high estimate. because not only would this estimate need every game to be a 30-0 match, but also that every single player quit the game after a single match.
both are obviously unrealistic to assume. so if every player played 2 landslide TDM matches, we are suddenly only at 2mio players. if they played 3, 4, 5 matches the number goes down accordingly.
and the more kills the opposite team made in these matches, the less players we get again.
so if we estimate every player playing 2 TDM matches, and every match being 30-29 close calls, we are only at 1mio players.
this is also an unrealistic scenario, but a more realistic one than the 4mio scenario. the truth most likely is that it's lower than 1mio players during the open beta. because you have to assume that there are players that played dozens of matches, playing match types you unlock that don't have a kill limit and will result in even more kills per match.
so adjust the estimate down from 1mio according to what you think is the most realistic scenario of matches being played by individual players, how many kills per match you think they did etc.
not worse than we thought it's exactly how we thought it'd go
The classic scenario of someone trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
This is Jim Ryans Playstation. Worse than Don Mattrick.
Theyre literally called freegunners, kids arent going to be pretending to be a "freegunner"
340 players currently. Weekend, evening in Europe, day in Americas.
Everyone has limited time and if you're already invested in other games that you have played for years why would someone play this.
I honestly think that Concord would be better as a co-op mission based game like borderlands or could even have a interesting single-player campaing, that was my initial reasoning during the first 5 minutes of them showing the game, but they lost me completely when "5vs5" was said
Yes, I think they would’ve had a lot more success by having a traditional Halo or COD campaign at launch, not trying to drip feed cinematics
Yeah, the Halo formula is the way to go: Single Player or Co Op campaign with optional multiplayer. I'm sick of all these live service games. Just soulless cash grabs
I hope the dudes in the suits finally come to grips with the reality that trying to win over that 5% who gives a damn about DEI just pisses off everyone else.
Diversity was one of Overwatch’s big selling points. And it still genuinely works well for them.
Diversity is a core game component in terms of recognising and reacting to opponents.
Just sounds like you’re trying to push a rhetoric
@@ddfb494355 Nah... ;just look at the character designs, Overwatch characters look fine. Concords characters look hideous and more like racist caricatures.
@@ddfb494355no man, I don't even play Overwatch, but none of those Concord character are even close of how good some OW charecters are. (Widowmaker, Genji, Reaper, Reinhart to name a few)
Reject live service games. Embrace single-player offline games.
Even Redfall did 6k (Which for online game even 6k is abysmal) a Game Pass game.... Just think about it... 695. Even Gollum did 750 players on Steam a fuckın Gollum xd
My mate bought gollum on ps5. That shit is soooo hard to get through. Only played 5 levels
Redfall wasn't even a live service. Concord is
Why would they design some of the most horrible character designs in history in a genre that is defined by its heroes?
If it had a Story Mode, maybe that justifies the $40.
They created this while knowing Overwatch 1 was being created.
Please. Don’t ever. Don’t ever compare Titanfall 2 to Concord… in any way. Don’t.
Meanwhile exclusively single player Black myth Wukong has already passed 10 million for a "dying market"
Devs gave out more than 700 free codes to friends and family …
8 years development to produce Horse Shīt
8 years to appease the women who bullied the nerds on staff to include self-insert character designs of themselves
The current player count (Friday night in USA) for Wukong is over 1.2 million, and about 480 for Concord.
Sure, try to explain why Concords launch was so bad. Won't make you look like a Sony shill at all. Not in the least.
Mortal Kombat 11 a game from 2019 still has 1,000+ players on steam. Concord just launched with only 657 on steam.
I'm surprised no one did a twisted metal-like live service game and expanded on that IP's mechanics and scope
I’m pretty sure they was in the works that got canned
When even the DreamcastGuy doesn't like a game from Sony, then you know how Sony fucked it up.
But I thought this was for the "modern gaming audience" why aren't they supporting this game? I'm very disappointed.
Their push for this game on PS Stars is hilarious too. They wanted people to pre-order, buy, play, etc for points. I bet most aren't doing it. I'm not spending money for the equivalent to maybe $0.50 or $1 if you pre-ordered too.
Every investor in the West should be looking at Wukong, looking at Wukong's numbers, and calling the studios up to tell them to fire every "consultancy firm", drop the agendas, and make them something like the Eastern studios are doing.
More than 90% of Wu Kongs player base is from China.
Nah man some of just play games for fun. not gonna care bout these agendas yall keep yappin about
First off that's exactly the problem that spawn wave was just talking about getting on the bandwagon now and five six years when the game is ready no one cares. Second hopefully the studios have learned our lessons from places like Blizzard, that have to bow down and tiptoe around the Chinese government to get their game approved. ultimately making it worse for the entire world
Chasing trends is what got them here
Lol keep living in your delusional culture war or grow up
A live service failing and a single player game massively succeeding is what this industry needs. Concord was 8 years late to the hero shooter trend
If you expect me to play 40 dollars I would expect at least 5 to 8 hours single player story mode. This giving cutscenes periodically without gameplay is just dumb. What are we doing? Are we watching tv or playing video game?
We can blame the price tag, even if it was free during a beta. The market, that only gave a chance to Marvel Rivals and that game Valve is actively trying to hide. The small budget from Sony. The bad weather. The elections.
This game was made by developers for developers. As long as they keep chasing the modern audience the modern audience they'll get.
It’s wild that Sony had enough faith in this game to buy the studio but also decided to shut down Japan Studio.
Concord isn’t a bad shooter either. The move would have been to either make it F2P or launch it into the subscription service.
Yeah from what all I have heard as far as gameplay its solid, its not bad or seem to be all that glitchy its just so generic for a $40 game, not to mention its a hero shooter that is way late to the party coming into a market that's kinda set in stone already, the devs would need to really nail the aesthetic to make this game stick out or at least come up with a unique gameplay gimmick.
@@IIPlayer15II yeah the beta was actually fun. I also respect the fact that they’re not doing the traditional “paid battle pass.” But yeah There’s little setting it apart from other competitors. And they’re all free. I’m not a fan of Microtransactions and would rather have a model like concord be the standard. But that’s, sadly, not the timeline we’re on.
Literally the entire player count is streamers and reviewers.
Gotta give Firewalk the credit they deserve. I've never been so revolted by character design as much as some of these and only from a couple of seconds of exposure. Not easy and a record that may never be broken.
Spend that 40 on Kunitsu Gami instead. You won’t regret it.
It's on gamepass
Happy to know that people are voting with their wallets
this makes 343 look competent
Embrace monke
I wonder how hard it would be to become the #1 ranked concord player in the world 🤔
It died the minute it went full Sweet Baby Inc DEI, with virtue signalling and identity politics. I refuse to buy games that push social agendas over actually making a game that gamers want. Black Myth Wukong is what I’m playing this weekend.
Black Myth Wukong: It's better than we thought.
Concord: It's worse than we thought.
8 years in development and being woke - No, thanks.
People are saying it's Wukong that's killing Concord but on PC the truth is that Delta Force has sucked all the air out of the room. It's the best thing since old-school battlefield
The game is visually uninteresting and anyone who uses the word "woke" is immediately going to reject it. This is a dead franchise before it was even birthed. It could come out with the most banging gameplay, and people will still ignore it. It's that boring to look at.
Free to play with cosmetic microtransactions probably makes more sense for live service games than a one off purchase where you're not sure if the game is even going to be playable for long (either due to player count or the servers going offline). Although I'm not sure that Concord's art direction really lends itself well to consumer success with cosmetics.
Free to play in September😂
Is foam stars Heros still a thing?
Nobody wants games that are anti consumer… that’s why Concord has failed at launch…
"The wages of Woke is broke."
- Harvey Cthulhu
Wish we got Twisted Metal again… or Jak and Daxter… or InFamous… Or Sly Cooper. But no, we get these always online slop.
How to fix Concord:
Step 1 - add interesting sexy female characters and skins
Fixed
Naa very against their woke DEI agenda.
Step 2 - parody woke culture, beginning with changing the robot's pronouns to Beep/Bop/Boop
Step 3: Make it F2P, sell sexy character skins to finance the servers
You're forced to switch char after every round I believe so... youd need atleast 2 dozen good char designs AND throw out the price tag AND make the game significantly more action filled/faster to get any players back.
The fact they aren't boasting about player numbers or sale numbers is telling enough that it was a disaster. Sadly, no suits that were involved in putting out this garbage will face any repercussions.
Hear me out, is it possible that ALL the modern audience actually bought Concord and play the game?
actually playercount is getting worse over the weekend now.. so next month free to play and if that not works it will be closed down? Honestly i am suprised that it did not end up like hyenas cancelled during beta.
WoW and Black Myth Wukong are dominating the news, streaming space etc so it ended up being a worse time to fully release than i even anticipated.
I was just about to say, WoW just released a new xpac too, if they released a bit ago when everyone was bored in s4 and looking for new stuff to do.... Also valve's new game got leaked and its already got a lil playerbase going on thats slowly growing.