VKB Gladiator NXT EVO - Different Configurations
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2022
- VKB Gladiator NXT EVO - Different Configurations
1:02 Helicopter Collective
2:34 Aviation Throttle
4:45 Spaceflight Throttle
8:30 Spaceflight Throttle, alternative (centered axes)
13:40 Standard Flightstick
14:30 Helicopter Cyclic
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1:02 Helicopter Collective
2:34 Aviation Throttle
4:45 Spaceflight Throttle
8:30 Spaceflight Throttle, alternative (centered axes)
13:40 Standard Flightstick
14:30 Helicopter Cyclic
Great overview of the different configurations. Will be very helpful to me and a lot of folks, I'm sure. Looking to start helicopters in DCS at some point. Hope I got everything listed here correctly. Please correct me if needed.
Thanks for adding that, I added those to the description!
Very nice video. I really like the angled extension in making a space/helicopter collective setup. If I had known about this I would not have sold my VKB Gladiator several months ago.
This is the video that made me choose VKB over more expensive Virpil as a replacement for T16000.m
Great video. I just got that exact setup a couple of weeks ago and have been slowly trying the different configs out with things. So many buttons and axes to configure in everything 😀 I love my new sticks and you have given me some different things to try. I especially like the helicopter solutions you suggest.
Cheers
the best vid on setup! tysm! I just ordered mine so cant wait to have it setup for Helicopters, now putting money aside for the cyclic units!
Came here just to do some preliminary research but bought a bunch of VKB gear before I even got through the video. This is dope as hell. Thanks for the detailed info!
great video, just got my sticks in and this was such a headache saver to get them set up! thanks.
Seriously considering the left hand omni to replace my aged x55 throttle. With some fine tuning it could be exactly what I'm looking for in Star Citizen. Thanks for the info and demonstration.
That collective option did impressed me, nice video :)
I just filmed it in use, hopefully I can get the full review out soon(TM)
It really is made so that with just 2 sticks you can cover almoast if not all configurations you could need. I can see now why people recommand these so much :D
Very much so! They are absolutely the best combination in the mid range (sub 350)
Amazing video, it answered all the questions that i had.
Thank you.
Very Helpful video! I had no idea the throttle could be setup in a way where it stays where you leave it. I just ordered the Evo SCE stick and decided to wait on purchasing the omni throttle, but now I'm considering purchasing it sooner than later.
You won't be sorry on the Omni, its a great piece to have.
Thank you very much. I'm getting into flight sims and was looking for a good stick that would allow me to handle helicopters without dropping a full 1500 on a PUMA. this was exactly the kind of mid range solution I was looking for.
thanks for the video mate, makes flying the apache so much nicer! no trim button necessary! gonna have to buy a second NXT with a left handed grip for my collective now haha
this was pretty informative. i plan on using my controls exactly for both helicopter and space sim, so this was the most relevant video ive seen so far. it'd be cool to also include an additional video setting this up in both a helicopter sim and star citizen.
Setting this up as in doing bindings?
I don't do many binding videos because bindings are incredibly subjective and can be very specific to users.
Amazing, mine was a standard NXT and I’ve just ordered the EVO base upgrade. Nice from VKB that they provided that option. I was waiting for the TECS throttle but a few days ago I saw a deal for the Warthog throttle and bought. Tks for the videos! Cheers from Brazil!
2 days after « YOUR GOING TO BRAZIL »
Sorry i couldn’t ressist
If you want you can make joke on my nationalitie (I am from the Grand Duché Du Luxembourg)
@@arthurc.5805 wtf
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Wow. This stick has just relegated the rest of my sticks to duty as doorstops and paperweights. This VKB is so versatile that I am going to buy a lefty to go with my righty and fly my helicopters with those two. One a collective. The other the cyclic. Amazing flexibility at such a reasonable price. Except for shipping. As James Brown once said, "You gotta pay the cost, to be the boss!"
Great vid man! Looking forward to the review of the gladiator.
It has already be done some month ago
@@arthurc.5805 18:40
@@samdivincenzo6266 yes but the non EVO is already out
Great video. Thanks
just what i was looking for, a flexible design for my left hand
This is a great video about great engineering
Outstanding ! I just received my Space Premium. I had watched your video a couple times before I received it. Your last configuration did it for me, once I figured out that I had to remove the little red inserts. The same setup works perfectly for helicopter and the MV-22 Osprey. Very precise control.
One question. Does your stick have more throw to the front than the back? My rearward movement leaves it almost vertical. Forward goes to about 45 degrees.
Hey, thanks a lot for this! Some great insights and clarification on the spring weights.
Just got my VKB Gladiator NXT EVO OTA (ok lots of initials there....) to set up for Star Citizen. The new EVO bases come with little red caps over the clutch adjustments and like a total newb I was thinking I needed to find the adjustment screws to install there... watched your video vs VKB's setup guide and yours had a lot more detail in it. I had my AHA! They come off! moment right when you started using your allen key to adjust the clutch. Going to use this in conjunction with my TM Warthog HOTAS - really wanted to go Virpil but the extra tariffs just made that option unattainable. If I like the stick enough I may replace the TM Joystick with a R-Handed VKB.
And yes, Shipping to North America is horrendous. Though DHL had it here in 5 calendar days.
To the US it wasn't too bad, but it still sucks, hopefully they will do a us warehouse.
The version of the EVO I got did not have those red caps, but I have seen pics of others having them, very interesting!
When I got my left NXT I also had a Warthog. It is long gone now though.
thank you for this video!
15:15 I love floppy sticks!
To each their own. You are allowed to be wrong! ;)
Excellent video. I did the clutch almost the same for HOSAS...I like the reverse to spring back slowly (which with this video I was able to understand the clutch axes). May I suggest a video on mounting the NXT Eco to aluminum extrusion (80/20), desktops, etc.? (btw subscribed!)--Again, thank you!
So I use foxx mounts for my Evo, I have a review for the foxx mounts up, but I can certainly show how my Evo is mounted
Looking at this thing currently and your video was very useful! (Probably too much for me right now, but something to look forward to in the future)
All the other videos are this stupid unboxing stuff but honestly this was what I was looking for. The only thing that is kinda missing, is if you would go over the grips in a bit more detail especially the different buttons/axis on them, the feel of them and if there is anything of note you have expierenced with them.
Honestly, I like the idea of having more than one throttle for games like Star Citizen, I will try that myself.
This video is incredible. It answered most of my concerns that I had after watching your other video on these sticks. M I like the first config you showed for the space sim where the throttle stays in place. I want to maintain thrust when using the left hand for other things. The concern I have is while using the throttle for forward and reverse thrust how hard is it to find the center without a detent? Thanks again!
It can be hard, but there is a mod where you can have it return to center from reverse but not forward. Someone did it on the VKB discord if I recall.
Quite likely NXT EVO sticks are going to replace my failing x-56 & t1600 sticks for HOSAS. Looks perfect for Elite Dangerous thruster stick.
You will not be disappointed! They are great sticks for the price. I think they are the best value in sticks in the mid range (100-250)
I just bought a left handed Omni EVO. I planned on doing a left right pair but funds didn’t allow it. So I am going left handed OMNI EVO paired with a X52 in the right hand.
Sorry to hear about the x52 ;)
@@FalconsLedge ehh… Life comes first. I’ll be able to get a second right handed EVO eventually.
@@Bloodlit I hear ya, I know the feeling
@@FalconsLedge I can’t wait for my EVO I could get to get here though
Great video. I'm planning to get the VKB Evo to serve as a cyclic. I won't have budget for a dedicated collective at this stage so am planning to use one of those small levers at the back of the base for this function. Is that a good plan? Thx!
It'll work. I use one as a collective now
With the "4:45 Spaceflight Throttle" mode where the throttle stays where you leave it, is there a center detent so I can feel where Zero is?
There is not. There is a mod that will pull it to center when you pull back, but not when you push forward
Dang that Omni Throttle stick looks really really cool, but I'm a bit unsure on it.
Unfortunately it looks like you can't buy that grip separately, so if you want it you have to buy it like that in the first place.
You can buy the Omni separately
I ordered both when I did this review. In my case I ordered the Omni and then ordered the straight one seperately
@@FalconsLedge I'm pretty sure you can't. They don't have the omni stick available separately, only the complete one with the base. You can buy the complete omni, but not just the stick to attach to a NXT base.
@@PocketsandOutlaw You can buy an SCG stick, its identical, just buy the Omni or straight adapter with it and you've got it.
@@FalconsLedge Ooohhh I didn't realize they had the adapter for it
Very cool, thanks! Haven't pulled the trigger yet but strongly considering it
I don't know if you could advise me I remove the spring and put the throttle in but it seems not holding a position and is loose falling forward do you know which screw I would need to adjust. it ok towards the back
Thanks for the video!
I'm considering purchasing a pair of these sticks to replace a failed X55 primarily for playing Star Citizen.
Do you have any thoughts on having the Omni-Throttle on the right stick (so have both with an OTA)?
Unsure if I go 1 of each or just jump straight in to a pair of Omni's.
That is entirely preference. I prefer either both straight up or left ota. I've never really had any interest in right hand ota, but some like it a lot
Check out the hybrid setup that I came up with. I actually was able to ditch my extra throttle I had when I switched to this: th-cam.com/video/WPeLB5sXack/w-d-xo.html
That's interesting, I like it, nice ingenuity!
@@FalconsLedge thanks! It works really well. The lockout plate actually works perfectly instead of a metel clip that I used too!
Looking to upgrade to these from the t16000m where they "snap" back its main location. Watching these just glide on the axis was a concerning thing. Hope im not sounding dumb lol
When you are using this in the Space Sim throttle mode, does the Z axis (twist) often get accidentally added in when throttling back and forth? I liked this video, because it showed how those would work in that mode, and the twist as straight up and straight down was not something I had thought of. So, thanks!
Never, and you should never be gripping hard enough for that to happen anyways unless you are inputting z axis
Do you have a video on making the stick a throttle and getting it to stay in place
Yeah it's the latest one on the channel
Thanks for the video!
I know this is late, but youtube just recommend me a bunch of your video. So do you think with this gimbal upgrade (the clutch and the ball bearing) the dampening performance will decrease over time? with the case of using it as throttle and controller stick?
I had a vkb nxt hosas setup, dampening performance went poor after 2-3month, tried re-grease and swap springs but the dampening effect didn't perform the same like when I first using it, so I sold it and now I wanna make a comeback, but definitely need your opinion first before buying it. Thanks!
Damping performance should not decrease over time in any really noticable way since the EVO uses clutches, not grease damping.
@@FalconsLedge Thanks!
Thnx for this. Gna get left Omni evo and right evo space for star citizen. was wondering if all tools shown in the video are provided with package? Alan wrench especially
They do provide tools, and there should be all the tools you need to do what I did in the video, but not the set of alan wrenches I used.
The thing for the springs only come with the Premium edition
@@arthurc.5805 Always buy the premium edition! IMO always worth the difference in price
@@arthurc.5805 They do have the springs and tool available for $7. Not sure what shipping would be
@@FalconsLedge Personnaly I just hown a T flight Hotas 4 (end me please) but I will upgrade in Like 9 Month for a NXT EVO Premium and maybe the folowing christmas THE TECS !!!! (Or the ORION Mk.II if it still doesn’t come to the market)
I've seen a mod where they use a small clip that allows you to have the Z axis with forward thrust loose while having reverse with spring return action. Do you know if the EVO already has this capability from the factory? That would be the ideal setup for me since you would not need to press a button to engage reverse thrust.
I've seen something about this on the discord, it does not have the ability right from the factory the clip may work just fine though I'm not sure
@@FalconsLedge thanks, it does look interesting. Will look more into it.
I wonder if the helicopter collective (no springs) might be good for space sims
Never tried it on that, but I like knowing where the center is on space Sims
Very useful video. Will come back when i build up the courage to spend a full month adult salary on 2 such cheap beginner joysticks :(
I can't find a way to adjust the twist force on the omni... Is it possible?
It is not reasonably possible
How about a replace thumb hat switches vid?
I believe VKB has a step by step vid on their channel for that
Is there something stopping me from using two omni throttle sticks instead of an upright? I only play star citizen. The right stick being upright doesn't seem like it would feel right to me. Seeing as I am used to the mouse in my right hand I would think it's nearly the same motion as holding an omni throttle.
I've seen a number of other people run it that way and like it. I personally wouldn't because of muscle memory, I fly flight Sims as well.
I just bought the left hand Omnithrottle and love it so much that I am thinking about replacing my T16000m right stick with a right hand Omnithrottle. I love how ergonomic the left stick feels. Any downsides to this arrangement?
I've never done the Omni right thing, only Omni left. Some people like it though!
@@FalconsLedge some seem to be saying that they have issues with it as it changes your aiming from the wrist to the forarm... It's been a pretty big step to do the omni throttle and learning the new key binds. Not sure if I want to go that rabbit hole... Thanks, your video helped me make the switch from HOTAS to HOSAS!
@@pville_piper5125 I certainly like the right hand vertical
Is all of this possible with the Gunfighter mkIII too?
It most certainly is!
Is there any advantages to using two omni throttles?
Just preference. I don't see any physical advantage to using two omnis. People do love symmetry
Hello, im sorry, im not english but i try ^^
Im a newbie and i've this joysticks, i've 2 VKB Gladiator NXT EVO Premium (left and right ofc) and i've a question.
Can i use the joystick that i use for "pitch, yaw and roll" springless?
I ask this because sometimes i make a fast brutal movements when i dogfight and when i need to be precise for kill a target, the center detent bother me and i cant to be precise ^^
So, its dangerous to play springless or its ok?
Not dangerous at all. I would tighten the clutches just enough that the stick will hold where you put it
@@FalconsLedge oh thank you for your fast answer ! i go try it :p
what do you mean when you say you "tightened the clutch" my stick just falls forward and backward with no resistance and i cant find anything anywhere of "tightening". i found people talking about different grease but seriously... i have to rip apart this thing?
I show in the video where you tighten the clutches. Do you have an older nxt or the NXT EVO? The evo is where they started including clutches
I just want ceter to forward to be friction whilst leaving everything else the same. How do I do that?
They're has been some talk about this on the VKB discord, I'll see if I can find it
You would attach a new slightly longer spring to connect the y axis to the frame instead of the other other arm, that way when you move it forward, it stays because that lever arm isn't connected to anything, but when you pull it back out goes back to center because the spring is still connected to the corresponding lever.
So if I buy the omni throttle model I would also have a standard stick even if its twisted?
Yes the Omni Throttle has the same axis' as the regular stick, the stick is just angled
@@FalconsLedge Would even the rudder axis be usable? I would imagine it becomes similar to a motorcycle handle, given the angle.
@@DonJuan247 rudder axis is totally usable in fact I use it for up/down thrust in space games
Did you have seen any news on the VKB modern throttle because I didn’t seen any news on it . (Because I would like a russian style throttle for less than 350 €)
VKB has stated that there will be no more product releases til the TECS, so that would indicate that the TECS is going to be released soon (I'd suspect in the next few months)
It should be stated that these are estimates based on what has been said publicly. I don't know for sure when these things are coming out. I just follow these manufacturers closely.
@@FalconsLedge Will you do a review of it when you can get it (If YOU want don’t do that only for the viewer like me)
@@arthurc.5805 My current plans are to buy a low end one (the one to pair with NXT) and the high end one that pairs with the gunfighter. I would then sell the one that pairs to the NXT and keep one of the high end ones that I have (Orion, TECS)
Is it possible to use the twist (Z) axis as throttle?
It's possible to use any axis as a throttle. I wouldn't like that scenario since 1. It's a spring centered axis without a reasonable way to use it unsprung and 2. It's a very short throw
@@FalconsLedge Thanks. That's what I was afraid of.
Will I be able to use the omni throttle and connect it to my x52pro right stick? to play star citizen?
No, the only sticks/throttles that work that way anymore is Logitech. That is a very ancient way of doing things. Secondly, the x52 stick is the worst part of the pair, I would upgrade that first. The throttle can operate without the stick, but not the other way around
@@FalconsLedge oh man I was hoping I can do this and have 2 sticks and upgrade the x52 later down the line.. thank you so much for the reply.. I guess I'll have to upgrade my main stick then.. I'd love to use this for elite dangerous and star citizen primarily... I just might get Omni for both right and left hand 🤔
@@ZegothBane if your x52 throttle works just leave it plugged in and you can use the stick with the Omni Throttle
@@FalconsLedge so if I'm understanding this correctly, I can have the gladiator Omni stick on the right and just use my x52 pro throttle?
@@ZegothBane you could yes. You could also have the Omni Throttle in the left and the x52 stick on the right, you just need to leave your x52 throttle plugged in
What is that middle thing. It's some sort of axis.
Could you be more specific?
@@FalconsLedge the base has likd a nipple that goes up and down. On the app it's an axis. Trying to find out what it is called.
@@user-zj2st3sm6g oh, it's technically a throttle axis
@@FalconsLedge can u teach me how to make it so that it's like mouse scroll wheel. Sick of using mouse scroll wheel in dcs for f10 map zoom.
@@user-zj2st3sm6g I recommend going to VKBs discord, it is in my later video descriptions. There are software experts there that will help you out
Can you make a video showing what has to be done in the base to make it works as a normal throttle (y axis only and doesn't recenter by itself) please? VKB has no real video, let alone instructions for that.
thanks
I cover this configuration in this video. No spring on Y, x lockout installed, clutch tightened on Y
It is the first configuration I show
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