The Resurgir series actually has lower base attack (240 vs. 242) and has lower base potency boost than either Vialto or Foursis (18% for those vs. 16% at rank 1) for Resurgir. So, you're really trading off lower base attack and potency for the possible boost due to Crit RNG. The Cattleya series is 15% potency base for rank 1, so at full HP it's 20% vs. the 16% for Resurgir (Cattleya has the same base attack as Vialto and Foursis). So, Resurgir's main advantage is for multi-weapon builds, but otherwise its damage boost is a lot less pronounced than it's been argued by a lot of people. As a result, they all do suit specific play styles, but the non-Resurgir series weapons seem to be generally better overall if you don't care about multi-weapon builds. Especially since I don't think the dodge PAs actually count as a sidestep for Resurgir procs (e.g., the Ranger rifle PA).
Some people say that its better to go for Level 5 Fixa Theseus weapons instead since you can realistically get a 7.5% crit chance "always on" effect with 500 Def. Are these stronger than a no Fixa Resurgir (assuming that you don't proc the dodge)?
I've been trying to proc the Resurgir effect to no avail. Dodge, weapon action dodges.. nothing seems to happen when you execute either. Is there even a visual effect to let you know? Nothing shows up on the buff panel after successfully dodging either. The Cattleya weapons at least have a little blue shield that appears around you. Resurgir either has no visual effect, or isn't working at all. Also, if the potential worked with weapon action dodges/blocks/parries.. that would make them worth using over all.
shh dont tell people the truth. Only real use for resurgir is multi weapons. at 100% uptime cattleya actually beats resurgir weapons still. Against foursis its marginally better at 100% uptime. Take note 100% uptime. Some people also sleep on fixa levels. I personally use a lvl 5 fixa Foursis rod. 5% extra potency.
@@aaronnathanielsongco6054 that's basically what I'm doing. Right now, with so few sources of critical chance, flat Potency increases (and higher weapon damage) is king. Honestly, I can fully see a L5 Fixa Theseus weapon beating out some 4-stars, except a Straga with the same Fixa.
I took time to fully test out the cattleya series and the extra potency is over your whole life bar. So you can think of its as splitting your life bar into 5ths and each 5th you lose 1% potency
@@akabanisan0802 Resurgir side step means the x or double tap move step. It activates by timing and iframing dodge an enemy attack. It will show a lightning flash on your character which means it activated but there's no icon to show if it's still active so it can be annoying. It doesn't activate on parry or skills with s.
It's all about that PP baby ,Trouble with pp management is definitely a problem 😂😂. Good video brother I've been addicted to since for the last 5 days and everything you said is 100%
Kero, while my friend was leveling another low level class in mt. magnus rank 1, he was actually able to get the 4 star drop at rank one. He’s the only case i know of so far so it must be really rare.
I bought all resurgir weapons for every class. I prefer dodging than tanking a hit tbh. Also Forcing me to get better at dodging/counter attacks more often and of course Resurgir looks cool lol
you might be living with internet that has such a good ping. i have never got to successfully do the dodge after finish my tutorial* so it didnt work for me.
Thanks for explaining the “successful sidestep” of resurgir. Guess ill stick with my theseus launcher/rifle with lvl 4 fixa fatale. I think for offensive builds 3* is much cost efficient and reliable than resurgir.
Currently utilizing 3* Weapons (Trois de / Theseus), getting one with a high fixa, (Fixa Attack 4/5) and maxing them out at +40. If you feel like you don't need multiweapons (such as myself with TD) then this is the cheapest way to get monka giga damage with 0 brain required, since both of their potential abilities are passive. I'm not going into the math on how these 3* weapons can outdamage 4* weapons with low fixas but bsically they're an option for a supposed "end game" weapon as of now. but out of the 4* weapons, I prefer the Cattleya series the most, it's the easiest to maintain and if you're in a group chances are there's going to be 1 techer or force user there and they'll even help you maintain that max hp. Resurgir is sorta uhhh, ok imo. It's main utility comes from the fact that you can MW any weapon with it since it covers all varieties. But the potential is in my opinion, overrated. For most classes, most of their actual big damage rotations and dps comes from the Downed stage, that's where everyone pops their overloads, their pp conversion, their photon blasts and optimal rotations. The problem is when a boss is downed, you can't step dodge anything, making the passive a sitting duck UNLESS you were able to proc it 30 seconds before a down occurs, which let's be honest, takes too much brain power at least for me.
I have a fully augmented revilate rod from Pso2 that has a bunch of potency augments plus the 23% base potency boost snd it is just as good as any of these plus some. But once 5* and up stuff starts dropping I’m sure I will have to replace it.
Fun fact on multi weapons, u can use the normal attack an weapon action of a weapon even if it’s not your main or subclass, so you could go te/fo with a wand/wire and use the wire as a gap closer.
My first 4^ Weapon drop was a Cattleya Knuckles and was in Vanford Rank 1. Since all those weapons are rare to begin with, they can drop in that zone. The rank probably just indicates how rare the chance is. Given that the Vialto Talis I got in Vanford Rank II was after more than one trip, and those two are the only ones, it's still rare enough. TO be fair, I didn't concentrate on farming them and was either there for the hell of it or was doing a quest to begin with, so I didn't spend overly long in either place.
I must've gotten extremely lucky, i managed to get my Cattleya Sword before I was able to equip it at Mt Magnus Rank 1. So yeah, rank 1 does drop 4*s, but at a super low rate.
I really love your videos, they really helpful since they are really simple to understand. Also wanted to say that i did get my first 4 star from Mt Magnus rank 1 and it was from the Cattleya Series
Another great video! I was wondering if you could do a guide to NGS Talis? It seems like it has a lot of depth and modes and frankly I'm a bit lost with it. It's really interesting because it doesn't quite play like POS2 FO/TE talis OR like Hero Talis. Doesn't help that there isn't really a in-game tutorial for it like in base PSO2.
Yeah resurgir are not BIS for anyone unless you want to multiweapon. Most classes don't sidestep they use counter so they won't have that up very often to be honest. The big thing is if you want to combine Rod/Talis or AR and launcher you are forced to use resurgir. Those combos can be pretty powerful hence why resurgir rifles are so expensive. The other reason that series is popular is that it has a lot less required level. It lets you use it on alts while leveling a lot sooner.
There're a few weapons that do sidestep frequently-- Namely Talis, Partisan, Launcher, AR, Wire and SOMETIMES dagger. For Talis it has Vialto, I prefer that but Resurgir Talis is amazing for DPS, I just can't spam as well on my Te/Fo with it, so it's a preference thing and making up for the loss of PP regen for going Te/Fo instead of Fo/Te Partisan also has Vialto, but I spam Cleaving Scythe>Assault Buster, if I can't get AB I sidestep out of Cleaving and 9/10 times get a sidestep counter. For me, Vialto doesn't help as much, but other people may not play like that on Partisan. Launcher has Vialto, but you dodge so much that it comes down to preference. AR has Foursis, I don't see the point in Foursis in current content since it's more or less oneshot protection and currently that's not something we have to worry about, so I'd just go Resurgir on it. Dagger/Wire both of Foursis, Dagger dodges a lot less, but it's a Fighter weapon and Fighters love crit so EH
Perfect. Thanks for this. I use Talis only when I have to do ranged because it's a flying boss OR if the boss is scary and can one-shot me easilty. Otherwise I'm in melee. Talis is one of the ones that have the PP recovery passive, so that's perfect. That will mean more time spamming spells and less time making weak attacks.
Vialto could also drop from Vanford Lab. rank 1, but the drop rate is a lot lower i guess??. In my case, it dropped after beating the PSE Climax Boss. This happened to me back when i was level 12.
You should've included the FIXAs. I'm using a Foursis Rod/Rifle with Level 2 Fixa Fatale. If you want the potential of the Resurgir, just find any weapon series other than Resurgir with FIXA Lv1-5. They are cheap now.
I think the vialto series is perfect for the weapons that are in that series cause theyre all the weapons that love spamming PAs. Im currently running a Ra/Gu and being able to constantly pump out those Fear Erasers no issue is so much fun
Theseus and Trois de weapons are 12 points of damage less than the 4* weapons (at +40) with a potential that increases crit rate on top of +potency. If you find or buy one that comes with a high level Fixa augment (or stat or whatever that red ability thing is), you can have a 3* weapon that can do competitive damage to a maxed out 4* that can also multi with most other weapons, and it'll cost less to enhance.
@@darwinasuncion When in doubt, go with potency. I doubt anyone is at 100% crit right now so crit potency is out of the question. An argument can probably be made for crit rate.
With Bow, I prefer Vialto because most of the time I don't need to side step because I'm already out of the way and for downs. When the enemy is downed, doing the most damaging PAs over and over requires good PP and PP management. Vialto makes that way easier.
So Vialto has Launcher and Talis, Okay this is where i will rock tonight. Offensive PP recovery its kind of straight forward Natural PP Recovery kind of nice, i think i got everything that i need by this video, Hopefully this will bring some more fun for me xD
Guessing he hasn't had any of the Straga series drop since he made this video. The Berserker potential is pretty good as long as you know how to dodge. 20% potentcy at the cost -10% defense.
using Resurgir Knuckles actually helped me with sidestepping :D Cuz I focus on trying to utilize that weapon potential Also, knuckles in general helped with timing, since you get a counter that's really nice when you dodge with the weapon action which has to be timed well enough I should probably try out other weapons, but knuckles are fun :)
I was using a +40 Resurgir Sword with level 3 Fixa for increased crit. I decided to max out a +40 Theseus Sword with level 4 increased crit to compare. While I did lose a small bit of BP my actual damage loss was negligible. With not needing to worry about sidestepping it doesn't feel like you lose any. I play Sword/Launcher and it worked well enough for me that I'm getting rid of my overpriced 4*. lol.
Honestly I just want Resurgir TMG and Rod so I can fully utilise my Shiva weapon camo and cosmetics. I'll do it all over again when Bouncer comes out with Soaring Blades too.
Resurge is pretty much for multi-weapon. It's buff isn't reliable enough to really say it's a consistent DPS boost. I only use Resurge when I want a multi setup that I cant do within the other series. Whenever I can use another series, I do. Any boost you get from resurge won't really produce a visible reduction in kill time unless you are really min-maxing and soloing bosses. Even then it may not benefit you any more then the other series depending on the situation your in. They are great money makers right now though :D if you have a personal shop they can pretty much fund any other weapon build you want.
thanks for the content, at least i'm feel satisfied. i'm glad i do multi weapon for theseus*3 rifle and launcher with *fixa termina lvl4. my friend using resurgir and think like an end game weapon but since it need dodge to activate crit rate, its not very flexible. well he insist on doing so and yeah. i still think the weapon i use still has a better dps.
I’ve gotten 4* units from rank 1, but like you said it was reaaaally rare. I was still lvl 6 with my main class when I got one by chance, and I didn’t get another from rank 1 til much later.
I haven't seen anyone with definitive data on how damage is calculated. Depending on how much each point of damage on a weapon and potency (with PA potency) affects damage the other series might be higher damage, since they avg like 3-5% more potency baseline and 2 more damage. You'd need accurate info on how raw damage is calculated to determine if + 15% crit is worth the base damage loss (its not like you can't crit with the higher base damage as well).
I rather use the trois/theseus weapons with fixa fatale lvl 4 or higher. I'll take that crit rate over a shield. Most players should be avoiding damage as best as possible. Having a shield just makes you reliant on it. Currently I have +5 fixa fatale with 6% increase damage with 4 augments. Lvl 3 weapon potential so I'm currently sitting at 25% crit at all times..
I got a Cattleya Sword in Mt. Magnus Rank 1 on that alt character's first PSE Burst lol, which was irritating given I had been farming for 4 star weapons on my main and hadn't gotten anything
Foursis Wire/Dagger all the way.... Glass Cannon that cant be killed. Got my at +40 level 3 Fixa Attack, and some good augs on it.... i am over 10% Melee =)
Me a Hu/Fo chilling Theseus Sword/w Fatales lvl5 +40 - multied with wire - Lvl 4 Pot Trois de Rod /w Fatales lvl5 +40 - Lvl 3 Pot Tzvia/w Guard 3 +40 Bp - 1411 and more to go
@@darwinasuncion well crit in this game is 20% more damage. so if u have a 13% chance to do 20% more damage with fixa fatales, it doesnt seem to be as effective as much as fixa attack giving u 5% more guaranteed damage. even at 20% crit chance doing 20% crit dmg on average youd be getting 1 in 5 of those attacks to crit averaging you 4% more overall dmg. they r both pretty close but i think fixa attack is better unless ur using resurgir weapons and stack the fatales crit with the resurgir potential.
@@darwinasuncion no problem. also keep in mind your main class gets a 10% dmg buff on the weapons as opposed to the sub class. its new to the full release of the game. it wasnt like that in the beta
BROOOOO, I’ve been using resurgir series wrong this ENTIRE TIME… I thought the weapon action (dodge), was what they meant. ffs… hahaha Thank you keroppi, this is why I sub to you lol
I did find a Cattelya TMG in Mount Magnus Rank 1 but i was level 9 or so and couldn't use them yet. If you get your drop rate buffs and get lucky they can drop from my experience.
Does the resurgir potential also proc for Fighter/Fists weapon action? The sway dodge. Though I guess you kind of answered it in the video lol. Really wish it did, it'd be perfect, but I've been practicing step dodging anyway
i just want a rifle/machine gun multi weapon bc it's cool and resurgir is the only option, but i dont even need the side step bc both weapon action are already dodges.
i only use my sidestep for running around :D if ya are good at melee WA counter cattleya is for ya --- ya can stay at full or high hp to deal tons of dps --- --- i am using cattleya knuckles for dps --- foursis twin dagger for chase and for cattleya TMG --- ya can play like monke rolling side by side without getting
I have seem the cattleya series drop in rank 1 but its VERY rare same with the Vialto came out with 4 of em after a 2 hr session yesterday with the rare boosting by 20% on
If youre a fighter force or techter you might actually want to farm a 3* Trois De weapon with lvl3+ Fixa Fatale/Termina as they are actually more reliably rng'd than these fourstars while trying to get fixas on them. Trois De weapon potential is bonus crit chance as your character ATK stat gets higher. Topping out at 15% at 2k ATK.
Totally agree with him, since i started playing NGS after release its been a blast, getting kinda boring just because i'm already at the peak so only farming for the sake of farming but still a very stable and awesome game, the fan service is a blast to watch, the combat system great no complaints whatsoever in performance, only thing is the map is still limited, i really wanna obliterate that Sand Serpent that shows on the end of the story quest
I've been running vialto for my partisan and it's the most comfortable for me, let's me be really aggresive without worrying about pp since I'm a potato at managing it Edit: I know about subclassing force, I just prefer to use a different sub instead
Same here, I'm able to spam julien dance with my vialto saber than when I use the resurgir. I also prefer the vialto since I find myself using parry more often for that counter attack.
@@karldavid3127 similar for me I'm ranger/gunner so already have pp recovery buffs from gunner sub class so add in weapon pp recovery and I only have to shoot about 4 normal atk and my pp bar is full
The Cattleya swords dropped for my GF last night, she was level 5 with no sub class, I was techer level 5 with fighter level 19 subclass I also received a few more, the knuckles and I forget the other. This was in the level 1 area of MTMagnus and she had only just reached it to the point the game let's you PSE burst, can confirm they may drop at level 1 but maybe you need to group with someone who's progressed?
I got my Cattleya sword drop from Mt Magnus rank 1 but it took about an hour of just doing some mat farming and i randomly got it. so out of an hour of farming I'd say the drop chance is very rare but still able to get a drop. i wasnt even farming so thats how surprised i was to get it and i was only lvl 10 when it dropped for me.
Ah, I asked this on another one of your videos, but this one seems more relevant. Do you know if the Gunner's stylish roll will activate the Dynamo Unit potential from Resurgir weapons?
Maybe it's just me but I love being a gunner because I kinda lose focus and be alil careless from dodging the attacks so I rather just go for range attacks
I’m skeptical of Resurgir Rod. The weapon action feels superior in every way to side step: restores pp, doesn’t drop altitude when gliding, can be upgraded with elemental bullet to do solid spike damage. Meanwhile this weapon demands you do a proper side steps to gain any benefit, and although dodge has its place on Rod combat; I don’t think it’s prudent to intentionally force yourself to evade every 30 seconds as an upkeep requirement, when in most situations Rod action is the optimal response.
30 seconds lasts forever in a fight. Mosts mob encounters are within 30 seconds, and trial bosses like Nogleths don't last 3-4 sidesteps worth of buff before they're dead. Obviously the Rod action is preferable, but people overstate the upkeep. Maybe they're bad at dodging?
@@drewb1979 The upkeep isn't just dodging in a vaccum it's a matter of what action is it contested with, what are the benefits, and how much of a chore outside your normal optimal actions is it? At least in the case of Rod Action the s compared to "Perfect dodge" aren't all that different; Feet on the ground anyone savvy enough with Rod action is just as good with side step. In fact excluding "perfect dodge" (successfully dodging through an attack with a Step) Side step's movement can be safer over all at avoiding attacks than Rod Action by moving you out of the way, while Rod Action which keeps you stationary beyond normal movement and active momentum. However, you kind of lose a bit of that repositioning utility to make attacks whiff since now you'd be actively aiming for a perfect dodge. Also you pointed out a key factor: "In combat". If we're talking mobs why would I bother perfect evading for a boost that wont serve much in the fight for how weak they are, and who knows if it'll last long enough to reach the next fight before having to refresh again? If we're talking situations that actually matter, like fighting while holding aggro against Urgent bosses, or the upcoming Gigantix; then I'd much rather the option that synergizes with the rotation and lets me DPS more. Rather than throwing another thing into the rotation to keep up that frankly imo; isn't strong enough to justify. If you can reach 50% crit rate for 30 second on perfect dodge that would be a different story, but I'm pretty sure even with a level 5 fixa best you can get is 33%, which imo is only really worth for fast attacking weapons. If the basic dodge is already the optimal option then there is no question and it's a net positive no matter what. In any other situation the upkeep is going to be a question of synergy, and a timer would always be a factor in that assessment if it demands you break said synergy, even if someone was a god at evading. I don't think that's an overstatement of the upkeep.
I got a Vialto spear from labs tank 1. I’m new to the game so idk if there was an update to the series and their drop locations but figured I would let you know. My son plays as well and he got the Resurgir launcher in wetlands.
I personally just record in 1080p 60FPS. But if you're having trouble with pixelated footage what you can do is record in 1440p or higher then scale it down post edit. (Sometimes that makes the image/ video look crisper. (I do not do this though!)
I have a cattleya weapon (gotta double check but pretty sure it's wand) and have never ran a rank 2 area not have I bought one. It is still possible although probably really low chance.
at this point there are people who are selling 4 stars for dirt cheap, and it is more worth it tbh. it s bc at this point, people have grinded so much, they have multiple copies.
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Feel like for most people the real answer is gonna be "whichever dropped first"
I laughed every single time he said PP damage
Honestly, same
i laughed specfically when he said "im a monkey, when i have max health i do big pp damage"
istg! "It's all abount PP management!" XD
:3
As a force, Foursis is the way to go, since we use our block to regen PP. Plus, that barrier is perfect for bosses and their power attacks.
Not this force.
I'm also using Foursis with my Force/Gunner but you need to use a Foursis weap with FIXAs
I don't main force, but I have a couple friends who do and they all have been using foursis just so they don't have to worry about being oneshot
@@rescuepackmusic it really does help out a ton! Especially since the lag can alter your weapon action timing.
let's be honest the other reason people like the resurgir series is that they look nice
Very true. Phasion is the true end game after all!
Talis are ugly :(
I prefer Trois de Rod
Damn never really seen them. Camos just overshadow the appearance.
Eh, camos are cooler imo
The Resurgir series actually has lower base attack (240 vs. 242) and has lower base potency boost than either Vialto or Foursis (18% for those vs. 16% at rank 1) for Resurgir. So, you're really trading off lower base attack and potency for the possible boost due to Crit RNG. The Cattleya series is 15% potency base for rank 1, so at full HP it's 20% vs. the 16% for Resurgir (Cattleya has the same base attack as Vialto and Foursis). So, Resurgir's main advantage is for multi-weapon builds, but otherwise its damage boost is a lot less pronounced than it's been argued by a lot of people.
As a result, they all do suit specific play styles, but the non-Resurgir series weapons seem to be generally better overall if you don't care about multi-weapon builds. Especially since I don't think the dodge PAs actually count as a sidestep for Resurgir procs (e.g., the Ranger rifle PA).
Some people say that its better to go for Level 5 Fixa Theseus weapons instead since you can realistically get a 7.5% crit chance "always on" effect with 500 Def. Are these stronger than a no Fixa Resurgir (assuming that you don't proc the dodge)?
I've been trying to proc the Resurgir effect to no avail. Dodge, weapon action dodges.. nothing seems to happen when you execute either.
Is there even a visual effect to let you know? Nothing shows up on the buff panel after successfully dodging either.
The Cattleya weapons at least have a little blue shield that appears around you. Resurgir either has no visual effect, or isn't working at all.
Also, if the potential worked with weapon action dodges/blocks/parries.. that would make them worth using over all.
shh dont tell people the truth. Only real use for resurgir is multi weapons. at 100% uptime cattleya actually beats resurgir weapons still. Against foursis its marginally better at 100% uptime. Take note 100% uptime. Some people also sleep on fixa levels.
I personally use a lvl 5 fixa Foursis rod. 5% extra potency.
Cat and reserger don't get a bonus % at prot 4 barrier goes up to 50% and the ppl regen of vialto go up to 15%
@@aaronnathanielsongco6054 that's basically what I'm doing.
Right now, with so few sources of critical chance, flat Potency increases (and higher weapon damage) is king.
Honestly, I can fully see a L5 Fixa Theseus weapon beating out some 4-stars, except a Straga with the same Fixa.
I took time to fully test out the cattleya series and the extra potency is over your whole life bar. So you can think of its as splitting your life bar into 5ths and each 5th you lose 1% potency
Thank you for testing it!
Think im about to switch to Cattleya think its more my style Thank you both XD
1% potency every 20% health then, not bad. beats having to go into harms way to force a sidestep with the resurgir
@@Talinthis hi sorry, i got a question. Does sidestep meaning i have to press X on my keyboard to Dodge or just any dash and avoid an attack will do?
@@akabanisan0802 Resurgir side step means the x or double tap move step. It activates by timing and iframing dodge an enemy attack. It will show a lightning flash on your character which means it activated but there's no icon to show if it's still active so it can be annoying. It doesn't activate on parry or skills with s.
Was waiting for this video! Keep up the great content!
It's all about that PP baby ,Trouble with pp management is definitely a problem 😂😂. Good video brother I've been addicted to since for the last 5 days and everything you said is 100%
just go gunner sub and pick a weapon like wire, AR, Twin MG, or twin daggers and you'll almost never struggle with PP.
Another minor note, you can use Resurgir at level 11 whereas the other 4* you need to be 14. Something to keep in mind when leveling other classes.
Really wish Resurgir worked on Weapon Actions and not just dodges.
Kero, while my friend was leveling another low level class in mt. magnus rank 1, he was actually able to get the 4 star drop at rank one. He’s the only case i know of so far so it must be really rare.
Note; you can't dodge when executing right click attacks. You can block, but dodging from right click attacks has a delay.
Ty for this.
My actually first 4* was the Cattleya TMG at Mt rank 1 dropped when I was just like lv 5 so there's a chance to have a 4* drop in Rank 1 areas
Thank you for this, I'm planning on getting Foursis assault rifle. I like to keep distance and move around the enemy.
Rifle gang 🙌🙌.
Rifle with launcher WA and fear eraser is honestly too good to pass up. It's why the resurgir rifle has been floating around 200k+
Same
I bought all resurgir weapons for every class. I prefer dodging than tanking a hit tbh. Also Forcing me to get better at dodging/counter attacks more often and of course Resurgir looks cool lol
I love dodging
@@sercesco3601 successful sidestep means having to dodge enemy attacks. You'll know with the ping sound.
you might be living with internet that has such a good ping. i have never got to successfully do the dodge after finish my tutorial* so it didnt work for me.
Thanks for explaining the “successful sidestep” of resurgir. Guess ill stick with my theseus launcher/rifle with lvl 4 fixa fatale. I think for offensive builds 3* is much cost efficient and reliable than resurgir.
Thank you for this! It is really helpful because you can easily get overwhelmed by all these diffrent weapon series ^^
Currently utilizing 3* Weapons (Trois de / Theseus), getting one with a high fixa, (Fixa Attack 4/5) and maxing them out at +40. If you feel like you don't need multiweapons (such as myself with TD) then this is the cheapest way to get monka giga damage with 0 brain required, since both of their potential abilities are passive. I'm not going into the math on how these 3* weapons can outdamage 4* weapons with low fixas but bsically they're an option for a supposed "end game" weapon as of now.
but out of the 4* weapons, I prefer the Cattleya series the most, it's the easiest to maintain and if you're in a group chances are there's going to be 1 techer or force user there and they'll even help you maintain that max hp.
Resurgir is sorta uhhh, ok imo. It's main utility comes from the fact that you can MW any weapon with it since it covers all varieties. But the potential is in my opinion, overrated. For most classes, most of their actual big damage rotations and dps comes from the Downed stage, that's where everyone pops their overloads, their pp conversion, their photon blasts and optimal rotations. The problem is when a boss is downed, you can't step dodge anything, making the passive a sitting duck UNLESS you were able to proc it 30 seconds before a down occurs, which let's be honest, takes too much brain power at least for me.
Basically this. My math also can back this guy up ;)
this is the reason its actually harder to have 100% uptime on the potential of resurgir.
Also doing this, the 3 * double saber potential with lvl 5 fatale is absolutely disgusting damage. There isn’t a 4 star that can compete.
@@Cherronova actually doing the same.
@@Cherronova any idea where i can farm these tier 3?
Can confirm that Cattleya weapons drop in rank 1 Mt. Magnus but as you said they're super rare.
To me all weapon types can be good depending on the build and playstyle ;) Thanks for the video!
Thank you for making a video regarding this. Been waiting to hear your thoughts on this. Keep up the amazing work😋😋
I have a fully augmented revilate rod from Pso2 that has a bunch of potency augments plus the 23% base potency boost snd it is just as good as any of these plus some. But once 5* and up stuff starts dropping I’m sure I will have to replace it.
Fun fact on multi weapons, u can use the normal attack an weapon action of a weapon even if it’s not your main or subclass, so you could go te/fo with a wand/wire and use the wire as a gap closer.
My first 4^ Weapon drop was a Cattleya Knuckles and was in Vanford Rank 1. Since all those weapons are rare to begin with, they can drop in that zone. The rank probably just indicates how rare the chance is. Given that the Vialto Talis I got in Vanford Rank II was after more than one trip, and those two are the only ones, it's still rare enough. TO be fair, I didn't concentrate on farming them and was either there for the hell of it or was doing a quest to begin with, so I didn't spend overly long in either place.
I must've gotten extremely lucky, i managed to get my Cattleya Sword before I was able to equip it at Mt Magnus Rank 1. So yeah, rank 1 does drop 4*s, but at a super low rate.
Same, i got 4 of them at rank 1
I guess that's where I found my vialto talis...which I have no use for currently as a fi/hu lol :(
@@variablex i Main FiHu but started playing techer, and its honestly a lot of fun.
You can also buy these weapons at the player store with meseta, but i haven't seen any resurgir types though
Idk where you play but the shop is full with tons of Resurgir weapons
I really love your videos, they really helpful since they are really simple to understand.
Also wanted to say that i did get my first 4 star from Mt Magnus rank 1 and it was from the Cattleya Series
Another great video! I was wondering if you could do a guide to NGS Talis? It seems like it has a lot of depth and modes and frankly I'm a bit lost with it. It's really interesting because it doesn't quite play like POS2 FO/TE talis OR like Hero Talis. Doesn't help that there isn't really a in-game tutorial for it like in base PSO2.
Yeah resurgir are not BIS for anyone unless you want to multiweapon. Most classes don't sidestep they use counter so they won't have that up very often to be honest. The big thing is if you want to combine Rod/Talis or AR and launcher you are forced to use resurgir. Those combos can be pretty powerful hence why resurgir rifles are so expensive. The other reason that series is popular is that it has a lot less required level. It lets you use it on alts while leveling a lot sooner.
I sidestep
There're a few weapons that do sidestep frequently-- Namely Talis, Partisan, Launcher, AR, Wire and SOMETIMES dagger.
For Talis it has Vialto, I prefer that but Resurgir Talis is amazing for DPS, I just can't spam as well on my Te/Fo with it, so it's a preference thing and making up for the loss of PP regen for going Te/Fo instead of Fo/Te
Partisan also has Vialto, but I spam Cleaving Scythe>Assault Buster, if I can't get AB I sidestep out of Cleaving and 9/10 times get a sidestep counter. For me, Vialto doesn't help as much, but other people may not play like that on Partisan.
Launcher has Vialto, but you dodge so much that it comes down to preference.
AR has Foursis, I don't see the point in Foursis in current content since it's more or less oneshot protection and currently that's not something we have to worry about, so I'd just go Resurgir on it.
Dagger/Wire both of Foursis, Dagger dodges a lot less, but it's a Fighter weapon and Fighters love crit so EH
Perfect. Thanks for this. I use Talis only when I have to do ranged because it's a flying boss OR if the boss is scary and can one-shot me easilty. Otherwise I'm in melee. Talis is one of the ones that have the PP recovery passive, so that's perfect. That will mean more time spamming spells and less time making weak attacks.
Vialto could also drop from Vanford Lab. rank 1, but the drop rate is a lot lower i guess??.
In my case, it dropped after beating the PSE Climax Boss.
This happened to me back when i was level 12.
Same goes for cattleya, got a few cattleya swords at lvl 13
4* definitely drop from rank 1. Just rarely.
I have this stupid idea to multi weap my rifle to a wired lance just to have the AoT feels of mobility LOL.
Anyways, good video :)
I'm running twin daggers and wire lance multi. When I fight daityl sword and its weak point is at the back of its neck. AOT feels 1000% man.
You should've included the FIXAs. I'm using a Foursis Rod/Rifle with Level 2 Fixa Fatale. If you want the potential of the Resurgir, just find any weapon series other than Resurgir with FIXA Lv1-5. They are cheap now.
I think the vialto series is perfect for the weapons that are in that series cause theyre all the weapons that love spamming PAs.
Im currently running a Ra/Gu and being able to constantly pump out those Fear Erasers no issue is so much fun
Team vialto here!
Theseus and Trois de weapons are 12 points of damage less than the 4* weapons (at +40) with a potential that increases crit rate on top of +potency. If you find or buy one that comes with a high level Fixa augment (or stat or whatever that red ability thing is), you can have a 3* weapon that can do competitive damage to a maxed out 4* that can also multi with most other weapons, and it'll cost less to enhance.
What fixa is best? potency, crit rate, or crt potency?
@@darwinasuncion When in doubt, go with potency.
I doubt anyone is at 100% crit right now so crit potency is out of the question. An argument can probably be made for crit rate.
With Bow, I prefer Vialto because most of the time I don't need to side step because I'm already out of the way and for downs. When the enemy is downed, doing the most damaging PAs over and over requires good PP and PP management. Vialto makes that way easier.
So Vialto has Launcher and Talis,
Okay this is where i will rock tonight.
Offensive PP recovery its kind of straight forward
Natural PP Recovery kind of nice,
i think i got everything that i need by this video,
Hopefully this will bring some more fun for me xD
Guessing he hasn't had any of the Straga series drop since he made this video. The Berserker potential is pretty good as long as you know how to dodge. 20% potentcy at the cost -10% defense.
hey for the cattleya series you get the full 5% dmg from 81%-100% life, 61-80% is 4% dmg, 41-60% life is 3%, 21-40% life is 2% and 0-20% hp is 1% dmg
i like foursis since im playing force and im pretty squishy
great content btw!
I'm a honest guy, i see keroppi video, come and see the video, but first like it, then watch it
using Resurgir Knuckles actually helped me with sidestepping :D
Cuz I focus on trying to utilize that weapon potential
Also, knuckles in general helped with timing, since you get a counter that's really nice when you dodge with the weapon action which has to be timed well enough
I should probably try out other weapons, but knuckles are fun :)
Brother u don't proc resurgir crit increase with knuckle parry
@@coencheng6974 I know. it was a separate statement haha
as in, that, too, helped with my timing! :)
@@coencheng6974 Edited so hopefully is better understood. :D
@@Monius13 mm, makes sense now. Welcome to the knuckle brotherhood
I was using a +40 Resurgir Sword with level 3 Fixa for increased crit. I decided to max out a +40 Theseus Sword with level 4 increased crit to compare. While I did lose a small bit of BP my actual damage loss was negligible. With not needing to worry about sidestepping it doesn't feel like you lose any. I play Sword/Launcher and it worked well enough for me that I'm getting rid of my overpriced 4*. lol.
Thanks. Your vidoes help soooo much.
I can confirm a Cattleya Sword dropped for me at Mt. Magnus Rank 1. I was about rank 6 or 7.
Vialto saber has a chance to drop in rank one also. That's where I got mine.
Foursis twin daggers are the way to go for me. Coming from an etoile main, I need that extra survivability while doing decent dps :)
Cattleya machine gun dropped for me in rank 1
Honestly I just want Resurgir TMG and Rod so I can fully utilise my Shiva weapon camo and cosmetics.
I'll do it all over again when Bouncer comes out with Soaring Blades too.
Can confirm Cattleya drops at Rank 1, got my bonk stick that way lol. However it is veeeerrry rare as you said. It drops more often at Rank 2
Theseus series are my favorite. Ik they are 3* but I like'm
I've actually gotten a cattleya sword just running around in rank 1 magnus didn't even notice i got it at first
Aim for 4 or 5 affix on the drop. Bare bones arent that good.
@@glenmcl if you mean the fixas maybe but theyre even much more harder to obtain. Otherwise weapons dont drop with affixes.
i did have a Cattelya sword drop in rank 1 Mt. Magnus so probably super rare
Resurge is pretty much for multi-weapon. It's buff isn't reliable enough to really say it's a consistent DPS boost. I only use Resurge when I want a multi setup that I cant do within the other series. Whenever I can use another series, I do. Any boost you get from resurge won't really produce a visible reduction in kill time unless you are really min-maxing and soloing bosses. Even then it may not benefit you any more then the other series depending on the situation your in.
They are great money makers right now though :D if you have a personal shop they can pretty much fund any other weapon build you want.
Updated video on this!!!
thanks for the content, at least i'm feel satisfied. i'm glad i do multi weapon for theseus*3 rifle and launcher with *fixa termina lvl4. my friend using resurgir and think like an end game weapon but since it need dodge to activate crit rate, its not very flexible. well he insist on doing so and yeah. i still think the weapon i use still has a better dps.
Thanks
I’ve gotten 4* units from rank 1, but like you said it was reaaaally rare. I was still lvl 6 with my main class when I got one by chance, and I didn’t get another from rank 1 til much later.
It's all about that "Big PP DAMAGE".
I got a catt knuckles weapon in rank 1 on mt. magnus it's most definitely possible. 😄
Looks like Cattleya Wand drop in Mt Magnus Rank 1 too since I dropped it while level 9 on my first character
I haven't seen anyone with definitive data on how damage is calculated. Depending on how much each point of damage on a weapon and potency (with PA potency) affects damage the other series might be higher damage, since they avg like 3-5% more potency baseline and 2 more damage. You'd need accurate info on how raw damage is calculated to determine if + 15% crit is worth the base damage loss (its not like you can't crit with the higher base damage as well).
Besides you can only calculate it in most opimal situation. Boss downs a lot or you miss timing dogde bring Resurges weapons down
I rather use the trois/theseus weapons with fixa fatale lvl 4 or higher. I'll take that crit rate over a shield. Most players should be avoiding damage as best as possible. Having a shield just makes you reliant on it.
Currently I have +5 fixa fatale with 6% increase damage with 4 augments. Lvl 3 weapon potential so I'm currently sitting at 25% crit at all times..
I did obtain a Cattleya(sword) in rank 1.
I got a Cattleya Sword in Mt. Magnus Rank 1 on that alt character's first PSE Burst lol, which was irritating given I had been farming for 4 star weapons on my main and hadn't gotten anything
Great content. Thank you
Foursis Wire/Dagger all the way.... Glass Cannon that cant be killed. Got my at +40 level 3 Fixa Attack, and some good augs on it.... i am over 10% Melee =)
Me a Hu/Fo chilling
Theseus Sword/w Fatales lvl5 +40 - multied with wire - Lvl 4 Pot
Trois de Rod /w Fatales lvl5 +40 - Lvl 3 Pot
Tzvia/w Guard 3 +40
Bp - 1411 and more to go
1445 here. cant really get much more tho my gear is capped. im saving up for mastery III's so im augment farming and saving up for meseta now.
@@darwinasuncion well crit in this game is 20% more damage. so if u have a 13% chance to do 20% more damage with fixa fatales, it doesnt seem to be as effective as much as fixa attack giving u 5% more guaranteed damage. even at 20% crit chance doing 20% crit dmg on average youd be getting 1 in 5 of those attacks to crit averaging you 4% more overall dmg. they r both pretty close but i think fixa attack is better unless ur using resurgir weapons and stack the fatales crit with the resurgir potential.
@@darwinasuncion no problem. also keep in mind your main class gets a 10% dmg buff on the weapons as opposed to the sub class. its new to the full release of the game. it wasnt like that in the beta
@@zath863 Deleted comment?
@@jimmylm9894 huh? i didnt delete any comment
BROOOOO, I’ve been using resurgir series wrong this ENTIRE TIME… I thought the weapon action (dodge), was what they meant. ffs… hahaha
Thank you keroppi, this is why I sub to you lol
I did find a Cattelya TMG in Mount Magnus Rank 1 but i was level 9 or so and couldn't use them yet. If you get your drop rate buffs and get lucky they can drop from my experience.
Does the resurgir potential also proc for Fighter/Fists weapon action? The sway dodge. Though I guess you kind of answered it in the video lol. Really wish it did, it'd be perfect, but I've been practicing step dodging anyway
Nope! It has to be the dodge action, not the weapon action.
i just want a rifle/machine gun multi weapon bc it's cool and resurgir is the only option, but i dont even need the side step bc both weapon action are already dodges.
Hi, I just got a cattleya sword from Rank 1 Magnus yesterday :D
I actually got a Vialto Talis and a Cattaleya Wand to drop around level 11 well before I had access to rank 2 areas.
I actually got a Vialto double saber at rank 1 vanford
i only use my sidestep for running around :D
if ya are good at melee WA counter cattleya is for ya ---
ya can stay at full or high hp to deal tons of dps ---
--- i am using cattleya knuckles for dps
--- foursis twin dagger for chase
and for cattleya TMG --- ya can play like monke rolling side by side without getting
I have seem the cattleya series drop in rank 1 but its VERY rare same with the Vialto came out with 4 of em after a 2 hr session yesterday with the rare boosting by 20% on
Probably four sis.. but im sure Trafalgar Law needs some cattle-ya or a vial to resurgir some of his sanity back.
If youre a fighter force or techter you might actually want to farm a 3* Trois De weapon with lvl3+ Fixa Fatale/Termina as they are actually more reliably rng'd than these fourstars while trying to get fixas on them. Trois De weapon potential is bonus crit chance as your character ATK stat gets higher. Topping out at 15% at 2k ATK.
Add on fixa fatale for bonus crit chance or fixa termina for bonus crit dmg means by atk speeds of these weapons alone youll have higher usable dps.
I did get a vialto shield at Lab 1
I actually found a cattleya twin machine guns in rank 1 mt magnus, i found it pretty early actually.
Totally agree with him, since i started playing NGS after release its been a blast, getting kinda boring just because i'm already at the peak so only farming for the sake of farming but still a very stable and awesome game, the fan service is a blast to watch, the combat system great no complaints whatsoever in performance, only thing is the map is still limited, i really wanna obliterate that Sand Serpent that shows on the end of the story quest
wow
first time i heard somebody pronounce cattleya
i am from cowboyland, and we say it like cattle-yAH!
giddyup pardner
I've been running vialto for my partisan and it's the most comfortable for me, let's me be really aggresive without worrying about pp since I'm a potato at managing it
Edit: I know about subclassing force, I just prefer to use a different sub instead
Same here, I'm able to spam julien dance with my vialto saber than when I use the resurgir. I also prefer the vialto since I find myself using parry more often for that counter attack.
@@karldavid3127 similar for me I'm ranger/gunner so already have pp recovery buffs from gunner sub class so add in weapon pp recovery and I only have to shoot about 4 normal atk and my pp bar is full
I'm assuming you dont use force then for sub class. With force you literally don't need anything else for PP management
The Cattleya swords dropped for my GF last night, she was level 5 with no sub class, I was techer level 5 with fighter level 19 subclass I also received a few more, the knuckles and I forget the other. This was in the level 1 area of MTMagnus and she had only just reached it to the point the game let's you PSE burst, can confirm they may drop at level 1 but maybe you need to group with someone who's progressed?
I had catleya armour drop at mt magnus rank 1 when i had level 6 but my only drops were a foursis rod and a vialto talis
stupid lack of cattleya wire >:(
@5:40 yes, it can drop in rank 1 but insanely rare
I got my Cattleya sword drop from Mt Magnus rank 1 but it took about an hour of just doing some mat farming and i randomly got it. so out of an hour of farming I'd say the drop chance is very rare but still able to get a drop. i wasnt even farming so thats how surprised i was to get it and i was only lvl 10 when it dropped for me.
Ah, I asked this on another one of your videos, but this one seems more relevant. Do you know if the Gunner's stylish roll will activate the Dynamo Unit potential from Resurgir weapons?
Probably not. If the potential says sidestep, then it really means sidestep.
Got a Vialto Partisan on lvl1 whilst grinding for the 1100 battlepower q. So i guess they just really rare there but do drop
Maybe it's just me but I love being a gunner because I kinda lose focus and be alil careless from dodging the attacks so I rather just go for range attacks
PP regenerates while standing around such a savage
I’m skeptical of Resurgir Rod. The weapon action feels superior in every way to side step: restores pp, doesn’t drop altitude when gliding, can be upgraded with elemental bullet to do solid spike damage. Meanwhile this weapon demands you do a proper side steps to gain any benefit, and although dodge has its place on Rod combat; I don’t think it’s prudent to intentionally force yourself to evade every 30 seconds as an upkeep requirement, when in most situations Rod action is the optimal response.
30 seconds lasts forever in a fight. Mosts mob encounters are within 30 seconds, and trial bosses like Nogleths don't last 3-4 sidesteps worth of buff before they're dead. Obviously the Rod action is preferable, but people overstate the upkeep. Maybe they're bad at dodging?
@@drewb1979 The upkeep isn't just dodging in a vaccum it's a matter of what action is it contested with, what are the benefits, and how much of a chore outside your normal optimal actions is it?
At least in the case of Rod Action the s compared to "Perfect dodge" aren't all that different; Feet on the ground anyone savvy enough with Rod action is just as good with side step. In fact excluding "perfect dodge" (successfully dodging through an attack with a Step) Side step's movement can be safer over all at avoiding attacks than Rod Action by moving you out of the way, while Rod Action which keeps you stationary beyond normal movement and active momentum. However, you kind of lose a bit of that repositioning utility to make attacks whiff since now you'd be actively aiming for a perfect dodge.
Also you pointed out a key factor: "In combat". If we're talking mobs why would I bother perfect evading for a boost that wont serve much in the fight for how weak they are, and who knows if it'll last long enough to reach the next fight before having to refresh again?
If we're talking situations that actually matter, like fighting while holding aggro against Urgent bosses, or the upcoming Gigantix; then I'd much rather the option that synergizes with the rotation and lets me DPS more. Rather than throwing another thing into the rotation to keep up that frankly imo; isn't strong enough to justify. If you can reach 50% crit rate for 30 second on perfect dodge that would be a different story, but I'm pretty sure even with a level 5 fixa best you can get is 33%, which imo is only really worth for fast attacking weapons.
If the basic dodge is already the optimal option then there is no question and it's a net positive no matter what. In any other situation the upkeep is going to be a question of synergy, and a timer would always be a factor in that assessment if it demands you break said synergy, even if someone was a god at evading. I don't think that's an overstatement of the upkeep.
Loving the game so far, even tho it doesn't have much content yet! Thanks for the vid Kero!
I got a Vialto spear from labs tank 1. I’m new to the game so idk if there was an update to the series and their drop locations but figured I would let you know. My son plays as well and he got the Resurgir launcher in wetlands.
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Wow I didn't know that to make a multi weapon I lt has to be the same series, thx
kinda random but how do you get your videos to look so smooth? there isnt any pixelation i think at all throughout all of your videos.
I personally just record in 1080p 60FPS. But if you're having trouble with pixelated footage what you can do is record in 1440p or higher then scale it down post edit. (Sometimes that makes the image/ video look crisper. (I do not do this though!)
I can only do resurger, no weapon set has w. Lance and tmg together. Multiweapon with tmg and w lance weapon action is so fun
I have a cattleya weapon (gotta double check but pretty sure it's wand) and have never ran a rank 2 area not have I bought one. It is still possible although probably really low chance.
Also is it worth it to just buy the weapons instead of grinding for it? How valuable is meseta in NGS right now?
at this point there are people who are selling 4 stars for dirt cheap, and it is more worth it tbh. it s bc at this point, people have grinded so much, they have multiple copies.
@@chrisdiaz3043 sorry i should've specified, i mean't the resurgir one's.