The BEST Argument for the Existence of God
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"w h a t i s y o u r f a v a r g u m e n t f o r g o d 's e x i s t a n c e a n d w h y ?"-🗿
*becomes eminem*
😭😂😂
Im quite literally crying bro that was funny
🤣😂🤣 he lost me
😂😂 this is how you know they excited about the subject they are talking about 😂😂😂
That's hilarious I wish somebody could edit Ben Shapiro's answer out and put the lyrics of rap God in
" If you can't convince them confuse them " - Albert Einstein
Sun Tzu
@@konstandinose.6695 art of war.❤
Exacct
if you can’t understand you’re lost
@@pleasantdashi7112 you’re lost too
If that is his favourite argument, I don’t want to know his least favourite
His least favorite is probably personal experience
Tell me your response to his argument rather than making fun of it 😂
@@kraken_8funnily humans having free will is the biggest contradiction for god's existence. an omniscient god and human's supposed free will both contradict each other. If god already knows your future that means your fate has been decided when time started. You have no free will
@@wualia god knowing your future doesn’t infringe free will. He may know it that doesn’t mean he’ll stop you. I can be free to do something wrong; god knows I’ll do it wrong, but unless God prevents me from actually doing it I’m still free to do it so both actually can simultaneously exist.
Think of it like the British policy of Salutary Neglect. They knew that the American colonists weren’t allowed to trade with other countries besides Britain, and they knew that the Americans did it anyway, but they ignored it and allowed them to do it even though they weren’t supposed to so that it would bring about a greater good in America by allowing the local economy to grow
@@wualia your argument skips a few steps. Humans have free will, therefore they can commit evil. So god being omniscient means he knows humans do and will do wicked things. This means that god allows evil because he is too weak or because he is himself evil. The problem with this, however, is that a weak god isn’t god so god must not exist if this were the case. And god cannot be evil because by virtue of creating the world he created the concept of goodness; therefore god must be good since the idea of goodness would have to come from god if he exists. However; god can exist if he allows evil for a third reason; to bring about a greater good, like the British with Salutary Neglect. We call this providence. So therefore the argument that free will disproves god is flawed, since it allows for a case in which god can exist which an argument seeking to disprove god should not do.
Oh my god
that was literally just word spaghetti
People are really throwing out "word spaghetti" without knowing what it means these days.
@@sentientmlem727 Enlighten us.
@@sentientmlem727 he meant word salad , there you go
lol ofcourse because you don’t have the life experience or knowledge to understand what he said. You just proved the point why you didn’t get it.
@@Aurora-jw4qf oh ....care to explain what he said ?
Man: speak at 0.75x
Ben: speak at 2x
That's Fricking hysterical!!
Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords!
(YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty)
To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
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Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim
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Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
@@chrisneu5133Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords!
(YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty)
To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
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Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim
-
Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
Thought it was just me. 😹
Hey man, you gotta get them answers out quick so he can answer the next one
"If you can't convince them... confuse them"
Talk about using their own weapon against them, only they aren't intelligent enough to confuse anyone who doesn't want to be confused.
The only reason he was confusing is because you didn’t follow him.
@@michaelg7904 Nah it's because he gave a really shitty argument quack-style.
You being confused doesn’t make it a confusing statement. Just means you yourself can’t comprehend him. Many of us can
@@denisdelinger3265 everyone says that for all arguments. What makes an argument bad is showing how it’s bad. Not calling it bad. You don’t get it and that’s okay. Just Don’t put the rest of us on that scale
Tutorial101: "How to spit out a tons of words without actually making sense"
You’re too stupid to understand what he said
So his belief in God rests on his belief in free will, neither of which he can prove. Interesting.
Not existing sounds way less scary than heaven or hell! If I knew there was no afterlife I'd just kill myself when life sucks. But there's no way the evilness here won't get a repaid. No way
You can prove freewill, you woke up, decided (with your own freewill) to watch an video about God (meaning maybe you want to learn more, which is good.) You then decided to write this comment which is also proof of freewill.
UNLESS: as we speak someone is pointing an gun to your head and telling you watch God videos and comment this kind of stuff in that case that man who has the gun is using his own freewill to do so. Eilther way freewill is being used here.
@@animationnation777 This IS a kind of freewill, where you aren't bring forced to do anything, and are making a choice. And if that is free will to you, great 👍 No one is denying this, however.
USUALLY when people are talking about free will however, myself included, they are actually referring to something completely different, and refer to what YOU think of as "free" will as simply will.
The important distinction, is whether you think you would always have made that decision, OR if you were truly free to have chosen OTHERWISE. To me, "choosing" something is a demonstration of "will", and being able to have chosen otherwise is "free" will. Simply having choices, and making a choice, not against your will, is just making a choice....not something anyone who denies free will is saying doesn't happen, unless they specifically define it as making a choice of your own, which some do, yourself included.
My question for that definition of free will would be: Is it free will if you were always going to make that choice?
As far as I can tell, things either happen for a reason, or is random. Or a bit of both. Neither these and any combination thereof leaves no room for "free" will, as in NOT just making "choices" but actually having the actual choice to have chosen otherwise.
If we're making choices, but those choices are for REASONS then there's no free will. And if we make choices for NO reason, randomly, then that's obviously not free will either.
@@Enaccul lolol aw thanks ❤️ n I agree this world sucks. But I disagree and do believe evil will be repaid. I've seen some pretty demonic things here on this earthly realm. I have also prayed to God and he did answer. I'm gonna play it safe and believe and be a good human and keep praying. Science explains the natural not supernatural world. Can't rly compare the two. God is something to he experienced on a personal level. Seek and find
But again if I'm wrong.. eternal nap lol. If I'm right then....
I've watched near death experiences too and many were very similiar. Idk I'm gonna choose to believe in God. Maybe it'll all make sense in the next realm why ppl here suck and r so vile and evil n shitty n cruel. I don't even talk to ppl anymore been let down so damn many times.!! But I will be asking God * this is all u can do * lolol these mFn self absorbed self loathing POS
@@Enaccul ill step away from the kids table and go back with the grown ups now lol. I love how your generation loves to use words and completely change the definition of it
Understanding what Ben says is the final test to prove that you’ve successfully mastered English as a second language.
Lol😂
Yay I understood everything he said
Yup hahaha
@@invader8491then what did he say?
@ClashPanda-tc1ct what he's saying is that God created us with a purpose. That's why we have free will, and we're able to make independent choices. We are also capable of comprehending the truth behind Gods existence. However we don't actually know that truth (yet). We are only able to imagine what it can be, and that power of imagination is the work of God
This isn't an argument... it's a word salad.
nah it is an argument.
If you believe in free will, that's very hard to justify without supernatural stuff and faith
@@tacitozetticci9308 sureeee😂😂😂😂😂
@Tacito Zetticci first off... free will? What kind?
Even if we are talking about libertarian free will, how would that increase the likelihood of theism?
How does free will being true entail supernatural?
How does supernatural entail a God?
The guy is just confused.
HELLO ALL WHITE PEOPLE JESUS LOVES YOU HE CARES FOR YOU REMEMBER YOUR LIVES MATTER REPENT AND ACCEPT YOUR SINS TO JESUS CHRIST AND REMEMBER THE NON WHITES THEY BREATHE ACT AND MAY LOOK HUMAN IT IS JUST DEMONS IN SKIN ITS ONLY US. AND WHEN JESUS COMES DOWN THEY WILL ALL RETURN TO HELL
@@tacitozetticci9308 the slaves your Bible says I can have do not have free will.
I just proved God doesn't exist by your logic and with your book.
"My reason for my belief in god is my belief in something equally as difficult to reason"
A big steaming bowl of word soup.
No. I guess you did not understand it. It certainly was not a sound argument, but it was not a word soup/salad.
@@johnnastrom9400...So it was Bullshit?🙃
Ben did not prove the existance of a god at all@@johnnastrom9400
@@lowearthsurferHe is saying because of our innate ability of free will, meaning making decisions on our own behalf, not determined by instinct or primitive functions of mere survival; our choices reflect our inner (consciousness/soul) concluding our reasoning to be an extension of the individual and in essence a God who governs the order in which the universe is formed. It is our self awareness that is a tool of God, not God himself.
In simple terms, If God didn’t exist, deliberate choices could not exist. Because the universe has order, points to a governor of order. A good analogy for this would be “a wheel means nothing without ground.” Why is r*pe bad? If morality is truely relative, society would crumble. But because there does appear to be absolutely morality, those who are immoral are punished, not just by legality, but also by guilt, remorse, doubts, indifference, judgement, deception, denial, selfishness, ignorance, insecurity and hatred for oneself.
Ben is pointing out the human experience is the best evidence for god, because we are aware of ourselves and have a moral system. As a non religious person this may not make a great deal of sense, philosophers have been debating for thousands of years if absolute morality exists and if so, why do we have free will? God answers these questions with accuracy.
What Ben said was frankly incoherent and illogical gobbledygook at double speed.
It’s not that he talks fast, but he thinks that fast aswell
You can't output verbally what your mind can't produce in time.
try it on 0.5x speed. Drunk Shapiro is the best
@@apoptose1558 correct. Proving that he thinks extremely fast. The man is sharp as heck
I spent over 25 years in Corp Hospitality Management. It comes from being around a lot of moronic Lefties. They jump on quickly with ad hominem and asinine debate structures so you’ve got to establish your ground praxeologically and assertively. After you do that, they turtle up and listen to you interjecting with the infamous passive aggressive retort, “Interesting” but you’ve got to hammer them at the beginning and then they’ll roll over and let you scratch their docile subservient bellies with reality. They won’t say they’re wrong but they will say “Interesting” 😂
what are you talking about, thoughts always go way faster than creating pressure differences in the air. its basically millions of electric pulses, versus trying to ripple the air around you for a single word.
Ben’s second job is reading the disclaimer at the end of radio ads.
ngl, this made me giggle
😁😆😅🥰😂
@@TNT-dn9es
what's ngl?
@@noname-by3qz
Text speak - not gonna lie
@@noname-by3qz not gonna lie
A fly can choose to fly left or right.
Ben: god exists.
Ironically, to be Christian, you must believe that only humans have free will
"my favorite argument for God's existence is that I BeLiEvE......"
bud it’s ok if you don’t understand everything he says 🤷♀️🙃
God is real because yesterday I put 4 ice cubes in my drink instead of 3
@@theomaidwhy did god decide to melt my ice thats so mean of him
You must believe in many things to live life. You must believe you don’t die today, that your surroundings won’t change drastically today, that there will remain constants in your life. None of these things are guaranteed but you believe them every day.
@@ShikayaBegay That is literally what he said. Note that he did NOT say he believes in God because we _have_ free will: he acknowledges that if you're an atheist and do _not_ believe in free will, then that is a coherent position. He is wrong to think there is somehow a contradiction between atheism and free will, but that's another discussion. The point is, he isn't even arguing for the existence of free will: his best argument for God is because he BELIEVES in free will. Which is not an argument.
“I don’t know how this works, therefore God.”
Exactly!!!!
"I don't know how this works, therefore no God." -Atheists
Cuts both ways, but the fact that scientists can not prove how we came from nothing (Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory) then they can't prove there is no God.
@@fuckyoutube4398 That and also the fact that the Universe is so huge and probably has several dimensions in which God or a divine being can reside.
Which leads me to another paradox: most scumbag atheists are willing to admit the existence of alien lifeform in the Universe, but the existence of a God? No, impossible!
@@fuckyoutube4398 by your logic god is a theory too. Altrough a much less believable one
@@fuckyoutube4398 so if there is god. Which one is it than?
Best example of
"You can say a lot and mean nothing"
For sure. Especially if he wants to argue in favor of his preferred god being real, because if YHWH is omniscient, then free will does not exist because that means everything that has happened, is currently happening, and will eventually happened has been preordained by him and unfolding according to his design. If there is free will, then it is impossible for god to be omniscient.
The classical Shapiro Style of existence.
He actually said some stuff here, listen to it again
U a 🤡
@@tshred666Your lack of knowledge about God is crazy. God doesn't control your decisions.
“I believe in god because of this other believe I have”
Do you believe you have free will?
No - Then there is a god
Yes
Saying a whole lot of nothing 😂 what a dimwit
@@zaierkaelt.villas6327You can believe you don't have free will without believing in a God.
True free will is just as ignorant to believe in as it would be to believe in anything else. As Ben skimmed over during this discussion, although he did mention it briefly, biology and environmental factors influence the decision making of a person.
True free will doesn't exist, because you really can't control anything in your life. This does not mean, however, that there is a magical, otherworldly, all seeing entity that is watching you and moving you around like a doll in a doll house.
"If you don't control your will, and God doesn't control your will, who controls it?"
Nobody does. Who controls the bears? The ants? The microorganisms? What makes them do what they do? That's right! Their biology and environment.
Believe it or not, you are just an animal. That's all you are. People want to complicate things that seem too simple but when you die, that's it. If it brings you comfort to believe otherwise, that's fine too. The existence of any God is not something that can be disproven, just as how those suffering from psychotic delusions will always have some kind of explanation that they come up with.
Just don't go telling me what I can and cannot do, making my life harder or looking to murder me because I don't follow your beliefs. Too many laws are being passed which ruin the lives of perfectly normal people, all because you and your group are forcing their religion on to other people.
@@zaierkaelt.villas6327 wrong
Did he dis-prove his own argument?
I'm proud of my English listening skills :)
Agreed
Fr and I listened to it three times too damnit
@@nicholaskun604 lol
dude literally it took me a long time to be able to keep up with him, Jordan Peterson and even Ravi Zacharias but i’m so glad i learned
Factssssssss
my guy's chatting faster than an Animal Crossing character
It's like he was already expecting this question and memories that answer from home 😂
He's a nice Jewish boi
Geniuses speak faster than the average individual.
Lol, Tom hook will pay lol
He’s high on that Sephardic Jew snow ( I’m myself Jewish )
As a Christian, this literally makes no sense 🤦
As well it shouldn't because nothing about Christianity or Christian
"Logic" ever makes sense therefore it is all nonsense
Make sense?
you'll never believe in God until u engage in witchcraft and meet a demon😂
Can I ask you then? How would you explain to someone that you know God exists? I just want someone to give me a solid answer cuz this video sucksss lol
@@bushyytale736 become witch or wizard and then go to a church full of christians praying in the name Jesus. and then watch how mad u will become.
@@bushyytale736 JK.. Explaining Gods existence to ppl is so difficult because all ppl want from God are miracles as proof when he has proven himself so many times now.
I think you should go watch testimonies of ppl who engaged in witchcraft but then had an interaction with Jesus Christ..
There's this Hispanic lady who said she used to be a witch who was on Michael Knowles channel. Search it up type "Michael Knowles witch became christian"
He broke a record committing the most logical fallacy’s as fast as possible 😂
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"
-Qui-Gon Jinn
Yousa speaking real factas der.
What’s your point?
@@gerardoperez7612he didn’t understand anything he said because he has comprehension issues
@@sethforesi307no, it's because Ben's argument is a dumb one
@@ryantogo8359 I’m an atheist, and I would say what he said is thought provoking, not really a fan of his either though I don’t dislike him
I swear this man’s defense tactic is to talk really fast and pray nobody breaks down what he says logically
that is his main tool tbh, he could’ve said his argument in a much simpler way and without all the filler, but then everyone there would realize how stupid of an argument it really is
Right 😂😂😂speedy Gonzalez while Ben talks a thousand miles a minute for nothing
I like to think his defense tactic is distraction with the diff sized eyebrows
@@zachshield5187don’t violate Benny boys eyebrows like that 😂😭
Yea but to be fair ones he's talking about trans people he's spitting facts
To bad that he sounds just like a dumb muslim trying to explain his religion whenever he talks about religion...
Dude nodding and agreeing knowing DAMN WELL 😂😂😂😂
that's not a reason to believe. This is just "I believe in God because I'm scared of the alternative"
Yes because he was asked his best argument to prove Gods existence. Not a reason why he believes. Listen to the video.
I've listened to this a couple times. I'm more confused now than before.
Because this "argument" is a non sequitur, lol. I'm actually really surprised they uploaded this embarrassing clip.
Just because you don't understand
That doesn't mean the argument is bad
The problem is with you
@@harsha6937 lol not at all. He makes no argument and just gish-gallops. He brings up free will and never makes a point with it. The problem is with you, and everyone else who thinks he made some kind of point, when he really didn't.
@@extremelynormalperson would you like to listen
I will explain briefly and in simple terms
Hopefully your brain then can comprehend
I can say it in simple terms for you
Shall I? I will wait till your reply
@@harsha6937 it's okay, I got it 👍
So, Ben starts by bringing up his belief in free will, which implies that he's going to continue by explaining his argument that libertarian free will is evidence for god's existence - but then he immediately starts making a different point that a disbelief in libertarian free will is a nihilistic world view (by saying that if you don't believe in libertarian free will, then you are inherently a nihilist who believes we are "just balls of meat wandering around aimlessly" is a conflation of two different arguments, which Ben does often) and then he just continues this statement by saying "there's a coherence and logic to that" which makes absolutely no sense, and I think he meant to say the opposite. If he said "incoherence" then it would make much more sense. I think he might have just misspoke, which happens to the best of us so I'll just grant him a mistake. Also, I will point out the fact that he just doesn't conclude that statement. He basically said "if you don't believe in free will, then - ...." and he just moves on without concluding his premise. So he just drops the nihilism argument and continues his initial statement on libertarian free will, saying that it "can't be proven by science," which is a totally baseless claim. It's not that it "can't be proven by science," but that all the science we do have just doesn't back it up. Only 18.6% of philosophers believe in libertarian free will, because it's largely rejected but that's not the same as being unprovable by science, as he claims. So apparently, Ben believes in something based on his feelings, rather than the facts. Ironic huh? At this point, Ben's "best argument for God" has been him saying "if you believe in libertarian free will, then you believe in something that is scientifically bankrupt," which... is not even an argument for God, lol. If anything he's just contradicting himself. After that, he brings up the Correspondence Theory of Truth, and then just asserts - with no proof - that god is the basis for all truth. He just... Asserts it. After ALL that talk about free will, he doesn't even conclude his point using the free will argument at all. WHY DID HE EVEN BRING IT UP? lol it makes no sense. The Correspondence Theory of Truth is compatible with all views on free will, even though Ben words his argument as if it isn't. So to recap, Ben's BEST ARGUMENT FOR GOD is that he believes in free will, he conflates nihilism and a lack of belief in libertarian free will, he does NOTHING with those free will arguments, and then just baselessly claims that the existence of objective truth is backed by god. Wow. Basically, he just says a non-sequitur. So there you go, I hope I explained it simply for you!
It’s incredible how he can say so many words while simultaneously saying absolutely nothing.
Exactly
Agreed!! Empty words: th-cam.com/video/_vFWfb49xuo/w-d-xo.html
Not only nothing but all bullshit
Its all they are taught in schools. Incredible really.
Exactly!!!!😂😂
Ben Shapiro is a master … of the gish gallop.
No he isn’t my guy. He’s not debating and isn’t bombarding people with question. And his idea can easily be refuted but you just have to accept it’s a logical conclusion yet it’s still has flaws. He doesn’t fish gallop he just talks alot, rapid with conviction which anyone should. Especially if there talking about an external being, so you point comes off convincing and clear to persuade the audience even if you’re wrong. This is a survivalists biological trait. Such as if you can’t convince me 2 +2 = 4 and your life depends on it, which in the end you failed you simply are at fault for not havesensible explanation for the that question. Therefore if you make an argument the whole point is persuading the person you’re right do you can win. Hence, why people argument testosterone rising so you can win and the bigger the threat you perceive the more test you need to crush the very idiot opponent you set your eyes across too.💪💪💪💪💪
bro believes in free will but forces me to accept god 💀
He's an Orthodox Jew. He cares only about the Covenant between his god and the Jews.
.... but he cannot force you to
beacasue of your ... free will
That’s not how free will works lol
If God can take away free will then free will does not exist
Who wants to force anyone?
My man can become a rapper so easily bruh.
Lol
talking fast means you can rap
@@ActUp Well yeah haven't you heard what rap has morphed into? I don't listen to that nonsense personally rap has became terrible in recent years.
😂😂😂
He's not m&n, he's White Skittles
This is perhaps the worst argument I’ve ever heard. He’s just babbling nonsense to confuse people.
Literally lmao, its not even coherent
He used an even worse argument in a video with a chat ai.
Agreed. Total b.s.
He's really not, but okay. Atheists have to play the vegans of the internet whenever they see anything even remotely about God so they can feel intelligent to bunch of strangers.
Try to think what it would be like outside your perspective that is a perspective limited by your existence. You can't. Everything from the color you see to the universe you examine, is contextualized by your brain which is a literal product of the universe itself. Now explain to me what a thought is. What are emotions? What are feelings?
This idea that materialism can account for immaterial things is just ridiculous. There is a dimension we're not tapped into willingly and whether that dimension drives free will and is considered God, or a simulation, or anything else, it is still outside the bounds of the reality we know or understand. There must be something, call it whatever you want.
The ONLY thing I dislike about modern science and its cohorts is how quickly they are willing to kill philosophy.
Yeah. At first i was like "ok, here we go". Then i was like "huh?"
Can’t our free will be that evolved brain thing attached to our sack of meat? Why would it have to be god 😂
nah nah nah that would be too logical the reason they think free will is "god" is because their religious brain is incapable of evolving 😂
simple their brain can't evolve cause they don't believe in evolution 😂
because if evolution is real we wouldn’t be able to supersede our natural desires. Those natural desires fine tuned for millions of years to keep us alive would completely control everyone. I would think he also meant consciousness by free will, and there is proof consciousness doesnt come from the brain. Along w the fact that if free will was just our brains, than shocking a certain part of our brain could get us to decide something. Personally I think its illogical to think our consciousness comes from our brain. Im a christian but its way more likely that theres a universal consciousness that’s experiencing itself over oh we all came from absolutely nothing.
This
Free will wouldnt exist if we were js a evolved sack of meat, plus how would a bunch of quarks spinning jn different directions in your brain cause you to experience this?
his argument doesn't really prove anything, he doesn't really give any proof how free will --> god is real
Yet, this is his BEST argument. Thats how weak this whole thing is.
@@m0n0deferia Absolutely agree. I don't even consider myself an atheist, but I'm still perplexed as how this is his strongest argument I mean it's just sad 🤦
@@thealtokid1012 Which is your best?
this gotta be the worst argument for God's existence 💀
as a theist
I'm so sorry that so many people make y'all look this bad
As an agnostic
@@SirLuckySlime lmao its fine
god exists. god is science itself but god's story is a mere folklore
@@tanlimgreendaless2839 Science is not a being, science is just explaining the natural world, it does not have a consciences? So how can it be God? Not even saying there needs to be a creator, but there needs to be a supernatural cause for the universe otherwise it leads to defying science itself or logic. And why would do you belive the 'story of God' is folklore?
@@sentientglitch science is the only one relied give us info on the world and never gave the wrong answer. The story of god is supernatural and won't happen
Something is definitely making me look at his eye brow more than I should.
They're fine thick eyebrows.
😂😂😂😂
I thought I was the only one 😂
Me too😅
Thanks....now I keep looking and can't look away. "Balls of meat running around" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
God isn’t real. He is the adult version of Santa Claus. Santa watches you and puts you on the naughty or nice list and god watches you and sends you to hell or heaven. The only difference is you were told Santa isn’t real
God is at least real as a concept.
@@JohnDoe-uk6si so is Santa 🤷♂️
@@JohnDoe-uk6si so is Santa.
@@JohnDoe-uk6sisame thing with santa claus
Okay but how can we have free will if "god" knows what decision we are going to make anyway?
>Neurobiology left the chat
>Dictionary entered the chat
>logic left the chat
Only when you started talking
@@bears_fan-_- bro got his feelings hurt
@@Broc_Obama Yup I am crying 😢
@bears_fan-_- yeah I can tell
none of these things actually prove why we have free will...
"Explain God's existence"
*starts to Rap
@user1719j 💯 everything around you proves that God exist.
@@roycewolf1268 False.
@@Paul-ts5qw explain
Shapiro exposed his flaws in reasoning with this video.
@@roycewolf1268 Explain what? There's no credible evidence for any god ever existing.
bro never stops yapping
Neither do people who don’t understand him using big words
And he had a crowd of people in there to hear him “yap” and ask questions
Free Will is an illusion
He just spat out a word salad that made no real logical argument.
Well It did but your capacity to handle that much pure logical information that fast is not comparable. It is an illogical to you and you both are right, but in your own personal perspectives!
@@Magns-AI-m Explain it then
I have check my comment in the comments section!
@@Magns-AI-m just because someone says something fast doesn’t make it smart.
He just went on a rant where he said nothing that backs up his view point
@@ejakeulater4990 something that is not backed up by facts or research papers doesn’t reflects smartness!
Scientists don’t even know how our brain works, they don’t even have 1% information about how brain functions! If the so called scientists don’t have any Fukin idea It doesn’t mean that our brain is just a meat ball! Don’t just relly on so called research’s, sometimes just open you mind and thoroughly think about it what the information actually means
Why is Messi the best footballer in the world?
"Because I went to camping last Saturday"
Your brain can't comprehend what was just said. I blame your parents because they were probably air heads too
You seem to lack understanding.
Confess the Lord Jesus Christ with your mouth and believe in your heart that He died for your sins on the cross and God raised Him from the dead on the third day; repent of your sins and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit!
Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Except make sure you say it really fast and use big words
Because you have an opinion he is. Don't back anything up, just talk fast and give opinions. That's all the evidence his brain dead supporters need
Ah yes, God of the Gaps is also my favorite argument for God (as an atheist)
As an atheist.... I really don't care just leave us alone
REMINDER: if someone speaks fast that doesn’t mean that they’re right or smart
It does in this case though 😉
@@parker6936 how
Ben shapiro is a perfect example of someone who speaks in a way that seems intelligent but his actual arguments are terrible
@@RichardsGaySon
Pretty good argument to me
@@parker6936 lol
"My favorite argument for god's existence is that I can't explain how humans make decisions."
@@pascualandra8 I can explain how humans make decisions without a god. It’s sooooo simple. We evolved to feel pain. We are social creatures. We do things that avoid pain to ourselves and others. We don’t kill people because our society has found it best to exile those who do that. We treat each other with respect because those in our society that respect others (a lot of the time) receive the same respect back. You can’t just say, “there’s no way humans can be moral without god” that’s so dumb. We obviously can. The most moral people I know are secular. Life is complex. There are things we can attribute to god, but eventually we find out that those things weren’t god, but a misunderstood natural phenomena of our world and universe. We can’t say, “god did it” until we have a reason to say that. And I feel like we don’t.
Underrated comment 😭💀
The evidence for free will is shown by the fact that it is observed and true. The existence of god has no such observable proof. This is another BS religious argument. Religion is the Conservatives worst weakness, they use it to justify their points, rather then the MASSIVE amount of facts and data they have that actually DO support their arguments, and they loose bandwidth every time they utter god as a reason for anything. It only turns people away who might otherwise listen. Religious arguments only serve to appeal to those who already agree with you, it's an echo chamber tactic.
@@dorbdorb25u life is pointless bro u didn’t hear him with ur ignorance!
@@jonathantaylor1863stupid comment that’s y it’s underrated!👍🤦♂️
Worst argument for a fairytale ever. Enough with the fake gurus already
Fake guru? Who’s the one posting on a TH-cam short about how a man isa fake guru who has spent years studying and proving God’s existence. He’s done far more research than you have and ever will. Just because you can’t understand something somebody is saying doesn’t mean it’s fake.
@@ShikayaBegayHe has done all that research and yet came up with this ridiculous thimg as his favourite argument. 😅
I am the person who asked this question! Pretty cool experience! I study Philosophy and was expecting Ben to talk about a typical Theistic argument like the Contingency argument or Kalam Cosmological argument. I was surprised when he went the Free Will route. He couldn't flesh it out in the time that was given, but I think his answer is certainly worth thinking about. No way he sees this but thanks Ben for answering my question! (I know it wasn’t a great answer people but perhaps it could have been fleshed out with more time)
NICEEEE
That's pretty cool, have you expounded on his answer yet?
So many people in the comments are taking his answer in a very 2 deminsional way, as a fumble or a stupid answer but I find it as a good thought experiment to expand upon. Would love to hear what you think.
Lol what?
Your book knowledge is disrupting your actual existence
@@smilingjackl what made u think that it was a good , this was quite literally one of the worst arguments for god's existence.
It pretty much says i have free well therefore god exists.
@@smilingjackl I don't think it's a stupid answer at all, but it seemed very short and I did not expect that answer, which is why I never questioned him on it or anything (I was also quite nervous). Funnily enough I was taking a Free Will class when this event happened. Free Will is legitimately a massive problem in Philosophy and has been for thousands of years. I don't think what Ben said is an actual argument, it's just pointing people to the idea that if materialism (Physical matter is all there is) is true we do not have Free Will because everything is just cause and effect and we are completely determined. Most Philosophers are Compatibalists, meaning they are determinists but think that determinism is reconcilable with the existence of Free Will. I personally don't see how that's possible unless you define Free Will as basically just not being coerced (which I think is way too weak) but that is a separate and giant debate. Overall, I think Ben is getting at something important and it has potential to really make materialists think about the implications of their opinion and possibly could be a premise in an argument for God's existence. But it seems like an argument against materialism, not really for God. You can be an Atheist and not be a materialist (though that is certainly not a common opinion imo). So I stand by my comment, it is worth thinking about. Many Atheists are materialists so convincing an Atheist that materialism is not true may open the door to God. BUT he didn't really say what I was looking for tbh. I was looking for a tried and true Theistic argument like the Contingency Argument or a Cosmological argument because I was really wondering which one was his favorite. (sorry for long answer those are the thoughts from a student who is just learning).
As someone who believes in God, I have no idea what he’s saying
Edit- why the heck are you all arguing. Go read the Bible and debate yourself 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
@S i R k A hes making the assumption that free will has anything to do with a god or creator of some sort. Although he may be right, this is just an opinion/belief of his and doesnt prove anything.
since you and other living things have ability for independent thoughts = existence of God? I don't get it either
I was about to comment the same. I don’t understand if he believes in God or not but he’s Jewish and practices their religion so I guess he does.
@@forexdissector9565 I believe his argument is deeper than that. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss what he's saying but listen closely and try to walk the path of that train of thought to understand what he's saying, because I do believe it's deeper.
@@forexdissector9565 no I disagree with you. And I think that he is making the case that free will stands upon an objective common reality.
if god is omniscient then there is no free will
"I believe in free will. Well, i have no choice." Christopher Hitchens.
I've just realized he keeps all that knowledge in his Eyebrows
😂
I was sitting here like "damn that was deep. I wonder what the comments sa....🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀"
@@Kkvng_Nova I was sitting here like,
damn that was deep, I 🤔wonder what "he was saying"🤣,...................... Just playing, I love Ben 😉
😂😂😂😂😂
He’s like Samson but instead of the strength being in his hair it knowledge in his eyebrows
"My best argument for gods existence is that I believe in free will"
I know, terrible logic. He should've been less sloppy.
@@corvoattano9303 🥱
Free will is an undeniable fact.
So which is more rational and logical? Our intelligent conscious minds capable of free will being created by a higher intelligent mind, or our conscious intelligent minds being created by mindless natural forces? The latter seems far less rational right off the bat.
@@8thMusketeer Please lay out your argument proving free will.
@@corvoattano9303
Human intuition/ human nature. If someone were to murder your family, would you feel anger toward the murderer? If free will doesn't exist, you have NO rational reason to be mad at them. You would have to admit that they would just be acting on external cause and effects reacting to the chemicals in their brain. If that's the case, it's utterly pointless and irrational to be mad at them. After all, it isn't really their fault right? They didn't make the free choice to kill your family.
It is said blud is still yapping to this day🔥🔥🔥💀
Yup because he has actual people who want to hear him “yap “ bc he is educated which is more than can be said about you
Why is everyone complaining? We have free will, that free will had to have come from a creator. That creator is God.
the complain comes from 2 reason.
1. What he is saying is that we can think, thus god exist. (can you actually convince someone with this?)
2. he literally talks the same thing(as point 1) over and over again for 2 mins, just with different words.
So yeah, that's the complain. It makes sense though
"My favorite argument is I believe..."
You already lost.
“trust me bro"
No. He is right. Free will is God given just like God ingrained in all ppl a moral compass or right and wrong called the conscience.
@@jdos5643 so sociopaths are gods failure then
@@jdos5643 FREE RENDERS YOUR GOD IRRELEVANT. *********************
@@jdos5643 no free will is a process that your brain takes in order to give you better chance at survival because it allows you to manipulate the world around so you can live better. And sometimes this part of your brain allows you to overcome and deny natural instincts when necessary because it can predict and process what might happen if you don’t do something so it forces you to do it out of natural survival instinct. The reason most other animals don’t have this ability is because they’re brains can’t process as quick and think as far ahead as our brains do. I’m not denying god because nobody actually knows if they are real or not for sure. I’m just stating facts that are proven in a simplistic form.
His argument was basically just ”there’s no way dude”.
No but I'm not surprised because your God says don't have hate for another being..but fuck dat right?
You heard him!?!?
@@Jay-gc8xp i speak faster than him. if you cant hear him your brain is slow af
Hahahaha life can ba a comedy
We're all in this together if not we all die. Not good not bad it just is what it is
@@darknx less about hearing him and more about comprehending him, which is hard when he just doesn’t make sense like here
I mean... If you really think about it "free will" doesn't actually exist. Our choices are based on our internal moral compass which is formed from our sensory input, what leads us to harm or pleasure, and the longer we live the more complex that moral compass can get. That's baked into our biology, so really our will isn't free, we just think it is because we are the ones going through our own biological moral checklist when we make choices
I like how the top comments on Ben's own channel openly mock him
If they can't beat him, they'll bully him. That's all they can do. 🤷🏽♀️
@@immadomenow 😂😂 weirdo
lets be really honest , he really deserved it in this one , as his argument was baseless and to make himself seem right , he made it really complicated @@immadomenow
@@padhlebhai-mi2nd Double Speak at its finest.
@@madgaming-kb4vcironic
Wait, he literally just said absolutely nothing in that argument
Because you are not capable of understanding that most likely due to the fact that you have no desire to understand something that could potentially challenge your belief. What he said, requires an understanding of sorts. If you think, he said nothing, then you will not be the pioneer or the doer of anything, or the thinker of anything different.
Exactly, essentially he said "if you believe A, then god exists" what he says isn't an argument, it's an attempt to convince a particular person of god
@@pauljarrell8162Tell me what he is saying? Because he offers no argument for the existence of a one God other than "if you believe there are universal rules, there is a God"?
@@pauljarrell8162it's funny to see stupid people think they're smarter than others because they don't get it haha (I agree w you laughing at the others)
he very often says absolutely nothing, but talks fast and vomits lots and lots of words, that makes it seem like he is smart -_-'
omg im rewatching this a year later crying because i can’t believe i actually fell for this wordsmith ahh explanation
Yo hallo Panchoooooo btw just for the memes:
Frontopolar cortex of the brain has joined the chat
He is a little confused, but he’s got the spirit. 👍
He’s the confused one?
"Sir this is a Wendy's"
fur😂
i’m fucking dying lmfaooooooo
When it comes to god/religion, Ben Shapiro suddenly cares more about feelings than facts.
Militant atheists tend to be the most emotional people I see.
@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges I'm black
@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges Nice strawman argument.
@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges well that doesn't really prove that your right. That just proves your ignorant.
@Why wasn't I born in the middle ages?
1. Says the ones who cry when their favorite religious figure does something and think it’s spiritually enlightening
2. This isn’t the early 2000s, “militant atheists” are long gone
My favorite argument as to the existence of the sun? It comes up every day and I see it with my own eyes.
I felt its warmth and light
I’ve always been a believer but my parents weren’t religious so I’ve never been a devout Christian. Now I am married with a daughter and it’s calling me more than ever. The world is completely backwards. True Christianity is needed now more than ever.
Since Ben's eyebrows have equally as much free will as he does, then God definitely exists dude
You heard it here folks
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it finally here guys
LMFAO!
the disrespect 😂 homie Ben made a good point tho.
@@moonszol4486 he really didn’t, freewill has nothing to do with god, there is no such thing as free will, you only have as much freedom as the country you live in allows.
Him: talking
Me: damn he got thick eyebrows
I was watching his eyebrows too 😂
They are gorgeous. He is a beautiful man
Hysterical 🤣
@@ghitarakik8508 Yes. Ben Shapiro is a beautiful man, who also has a very beautiful mind. 🧠
Pls don't say swear words and pls don't say damn in this topic
You don't have free will
Your body makes you feel, you have free will
It was proofed, that before you make a decision, you're brain already decided for you
”I believe in free will” stopped listening at that lol
Why? God did create freewill, I mean it’s a valid argument. well, not argument, but you get my point
@@randono213 he didnt sadly
@@manee2412yes He did. That’s why sin is here. He allowed the devil to partake in this world, and so for sin, so that we could have that freewill and choose what we do through that freewill. I hope that makes sense
@@randono213 keep believing if its good for u brother but im blackpilled…
@@manee2412 I’m sorry, but may you please define “blackpilled”? I just genuinely don’t know what it means
I’m gonna need to drink some coffee and rewatch this.
I’m afraid there is no level of caffeination that will help you to make sense of this
Have some weed too, it may help.
Add a redbull
@@kjam185 Yup. That way you’ll get wings and can fly up there yourself.
If someone does chug a Red Bull and finds God, please pass a message for me. Tell God that Daryl said he’s doing it wrong.
@@DarylTUBA GOD does nothing wrong! We're in a worldly time , no one wants to be obedient. Love thy neighbor, IN GOD WE TRUST , I love you and all of GODS people . Stay strong GOD loves us and ain't a thing we can do about it.
I'm 100% behind this god and his confessions of atrocities against the human race as outlined in the Bible.
One of the biggest paradoxes with Christian religion is saying that humans have free will, but everything is according to God’s will/plan. If everything is according to His plan, then everything from the time you were born to the day you die is predetermined, thus removing the idea of free will.
"My favorite argument for god's existence is I believe in-"
Ok I've heard enough.
So you don’t believe in free will?
@@OGMercator It doesn't matter. If you're going to make an "argument," beliefs are irrelevant. Saying your argument for god is that you believe in free will is no stronger than saying you believe in god because you believe in the bible.
But for the record, no, I don't.
@@scottk1525 ok. I’ve heard all I needed to hear my guy
@@OGMercator Cool. See ya.
Exactly!
How to sound smart to a dumb person 101
Not a toxic religious person but you guys are the textbook definition of stupidity; Ben made decent points, and you guys immediately just throw around insults without debunking his points at all, lead by bias completely.
I honestly think Ben's argument is the ONLY good argument for religious existence; he obviously stretched it for no reason, but that wasn't to sound smart or whatever, that's just how he talks. He has a decent argument, how do we have a conscious and make decisions? Well, that already has an answer; WHY do we make decisions? That one doesn't and some sort of higher power is the best way to explain it.
By ignoring them.
He actually provided an argument .
Ignorance is definitely not a good thing
Harvard university found evidence of God in our D.N.A. in the genomes area by finding A message they finally deciphered, using ancient Arabic. An it saids, "you have discovered creations greatest secret. Yahweh is the 1 true God. Now spread this with the world, in peace."
An know that, School legally indoctrinated the masses using pseudoscience (opinion based scientific facts like theories) like how they used the THEORY of Evolution! Wake up! Get right with your maker. You must get forgiveness an fellowship with the eternal life giving 1. God is A spirit of pure love too. So he's beautiful an he makes even curses turn into blessings in our lives. An can literally turn darkness to light! Evil to good! Decay to healing. Death to life!
Burn! Haha Your all deceived! Shut yr mouth! Or God will shut it for you!
They: everything must be created by god.
Me: Isn't god included in "everything " 😂😂
Okay... Im gonna have to ask him to say that again because all i heard was his voice😂😂
Typical response
It didn't really make any sense even when you do hear what he says.
yup
all you heard was his voice is because you already made up your mind NOT to hear anything else ... it's that simple
@@charlestownsend9280 82iq vs 165iq
That's why
There's not enough talk about the insane folical density of Ben Shapiro's eyebrows.
Lol I was just thinking the same
you're not wrong but why you gotta call it that 😂💀 folical density
But that's just what humans WANT to believe. Logic suggests that we act according to what we absorb from the world, so there is no such thing as 100% free will
There is no sane argument for the existence of god...all based on someone's faith. Not logical at all.
This is Ben Shapiro. What did you expect?
He lost him at “balls of meat”
Maybe he wanted to say meat balls with spaghetti tonite for dinner .
🤣🤣me too!
Well it’s your fault for not being able to understand him.
Lmao 🤣 🤣🤣
@@Rainwater1313 hes like “balls of meat wondering around?” Lol
Think f a s t speak s l o w . . . .
Ben: THATSWHATIMDOINGRIGHTNOW
Hahaha! He's in his own lane for sure. 😅
What you don't listen to rap?
more like : "thatshatIm .....doing .. rightnow"
But so smart that he can speak that fast and make sense
He used to sound so fast to me. either he talks slower now or i can finally catch up to him😂
Bro got that last minute memory from exams!😂
Easiest counter to the arguement is by stating that "free will" does not exist.
just because we do not understand something that does not mean that there is a god
That's beyond their logic.
People have been making god of the gaps arguments for centuries, millenia even. They aren't going to give it up now.
It makes sense because there is no reason to have free will or consciousness otherwise. But he is not saying that something that you don’t understand is god.
@@jghifiversveiws8729what’s god of the gaps
@@yoeyyoey8937 It's when people use god and his intervention as an explanation for things that scientific evidence either cannot explain with complete certainty or as an explanation for things that they have no real way of knowing.
I know im not the only goddamn person who understood absolutely no words coming from this man
You certainly are not my dude. When I first watched it I went "HOL UP! He said WHAT?!"
But after watching it again I realize he's not making an argument FOR Free will, he just thinks life would be too horrible to live without it therefore he has faith in it.
Personally I disagree with his assessment but at least it makes more sense than it did initially.
damn man for me it just sounds like hes speaking sanskrit
....uh damn thang...u hurd?
Y’all good he is getting confused as he talks as well
Don't use my Lord and savior And one hundred percent *MASTER* Who I Roxy Isabella confessed Jesus christ as . So don't use JESUS CHRIST father name like that.
I've bow to Christ up-and-down 24/7 And I'm not ashamed of that.
Oh I'm not Catholic. I know it might sound like it. I'm 100% of a real Following Christ Christian
The Evil all over the Earth tells me that there has to be a God!
Having free will still isn't proof there's a god.
For those who don’t understand he is saying…if you have the ability to choose how to live in a way apart from the natural biological way of living, there is something in your consciousness apart from just science and nature. Hence something like "god".
And to simplify further basically god freed us from being savage animals
In other words it's not a direct argument for God at all.
What's the natural biological way of living?
@@rickst3r living based off of instincts alone like other animals. Humans are the only ones with free will such as makes them capable of denying their basic instincts.
@@Uche.Azinge my dog trusts me. Isn't he displaying free will? I'm confused
“Sir this is a Wendy’s “
Tried to sound funny? I probably lost Brian cells seeing your comment
@@JBKing-cq8oi cool
@@JBKing-cq8oi also didn’t really care if it was funny or not
this is usually used in context where someone just randomly explains something in detail when it has nothing to do with the conversation. he was literally asked and gave an answer. also in the list of way overused youtube comments.
@@sebass337 damn if you don’t like it I can take it down I don’t really give a shit about the comment anyways
The idea that we have free will, disproves God. If God is sovereign, and I can choose to disobey. Then God is not sovereign. If God is not sovereign then the whole thing falls apart.
God exists because farts exist. If you can fart, it means that you're alive, and you're alive because you eat to survive, if you're alive and you can eat and then fart? Then that's the holy trinity right there and proof of god existence.
Bruh gave his argument for the existence of God in 'Rap God' mode
If shapiro was intelligent to any extend at least he should look into islam by reading the quran compare to his current believe and he if he is anything close to rational believe should have no trouble to comprehend islam is truth!
@@alanbrados2574 you trippin lol
The Argument works for any god that doesn’t take away free will
@Alan Brados sure so the book that says we should Minecraft non believer and support a Cheese Pizza Warlord.
@@alanbrados2574
And yet here you are, making a statement that is baseless and unsubstantiated.
Your original comment has nothing of substance or value to it, as it's just an assertion alone, devoid of the evidence you think exists without brining up one shred of good credible evidence that supports your conclusion.
Great job.
"People kill and get killed in the name of someone else's concept of God."
People kill and get killed in the name of absolutely anything and everything. Mostly greed though. It's just how human beings are.
Don't demonize someone's beliefs over something others have done. That's as narrow minded as me saying science is evil because the atomic bomb was created.
religion can be very dangerous sometimes
Many people get killed for other reasons as well. Humans be like that sometimes. Good and bad things come out of everything that’s the reality of it
Ben just speaks nonesense and can't debate. How the hell did anything he just said prove there is a God?
This is so wrong it’s actually insane. You can prove this wrong by looking at your dog. A dog has biological urges that can literally be trained out of them. You can TRAIN a dog to not do things such as hump, bite, kill, etc. Society made this possible in humans. We were trained to see that we are not our urges, and can have control over them. It’s simple logic.