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- I had a deep and silly goose conversation with Joe (Ghost of Jung Channel) to analyze the MBTI cognitive functions. Check it out to understand the functions more deeply.
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Even if a person with high Fi would perfectly know what they liked or vibed with, another component that makes them change things like jobs is because Ne and Se also have an influence on what they wish to perceive externally. Theoretically the Se/Ne part in them is attracted to a highe degree of diversity in experiences/concepts than a high Ni/Si user would have. Also, a job does not solely consist of the actual task of the job (which tends to remain consistant), but also consist of things that might change like colleagues and actual experiences.
If guess the colleagues is the real thing that retains/attrits people
Another thing that will likely make it harder for type like an ESTP to notice who they like is because they're Se users. They're very aware of the sensing realm of their surroudings, but less so internally like Si. The thing is that with Si a person is (for better or worse) in touch with how their senses reacts on their surroundings. These suroundings can be people, places or things. So if they interact with a person they will more easily notice how their internal state reacts on that person. Do they feel a state of relaxation, a state of stress, anger or what not. This is a part of Si that is usually forgotten as anything that is human orientated is stricly thrown in with Fi. Both Si and Fi make a person vey much in touch with their own internal human experience, just as Fe and Se make a person very in touch with the immediate extenal (human) experience. Basically the whole Beta quadra is most detached from their internal human experience (Ti and Ni are both detached) and the whole delta quadra is most involved with their internal human experience (Fi + Si)
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This was a great video, interesting hearing Se-Ni thoughts on personality matching. Also Kate loved the direct Se Ti reflection on the dating vibe argument, makes sense since Ti wants the attraction to maybe be proved first. Trial and error of experiences and the Ti user has determined that you're a good fit for them ✨
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I’ve just watched 2 minutes in, so take that into account. I’m an INTP with an extreme amount of Ti, plus I’ve been measured as having genies intelligence (not that it’s relevant for this point), and I completely agree type doesn’t matter for live matches and it is the vibe that counts. Having said that, I do believe there are matches that are more incompatible than others. What I’m saying is that there seems to be factors external to MBTI which makes people get together. I can cite my sources and evidence, but why bother.
What the typematch lady(I didn't catch your name, I'm sorry) was saying about how with Ti and Fe actually kind of made me realize something about how the Fi and Te works for me actually. Like how she said her inferior Fe kind of just can tell after a while that the other person she's talking to seems to be enjoying talking to her and not really the "vibe" that they personally feel about the person(I remember that that's kind of along the lines of what my friend who I'm 95% sure is an intp told me about himself when he's relating to people I'm pretty sure), and I realize that for me, I can tell by the "vibe"/gut feeling that I get about the person that I'm talking about whether I enjoy being around this person or if they're ringing alarm bells inside of me, and usually it's just like, it takes me until after I have the conversation that I actually kind of analyze and break down their character in my head a little bit more, and I'm able to pinpoint the stuff over time for the most part. It's kind of like I get more of a non-verbal understanding of somebody, or even just something I've learned about, but it's kind of like, I'm guessing I kind of bring it all together eventually with Ne and Te I think? Then Si usually brings up the details that stood out to me.
But I guess since categorization isn't usually my main mode of functioning, It's kind of like I don't exactly fully acknowledge how exactly experiences I've had have actually made an impact on me until maybe I come across some kind of information that might remind me of previous experiences I might've had, along with my subjective impressions of it that stood out to me at the time maybe. So I might've been, aware of a particular thing at the time, if that makes sense- But I can't say that it fully "comes together" until it marinates for a while in my subconscious apparently. I think it's kind of like, I'm mostly kind of visual and then verbal/audio in terms of my processing, but, I don't know, even with my verbal processing it's like, I can get a sense of the idea first, without verbally processing it, even if it's just entirely abstract and not necessarily "visual".
And in terms of my identity it's like, I have an innate knowing of who I am to some extent, but it's also something that I can really box in really, a lot of it is kind of just, who I am now, who I want to be and the person who's evolved over time. So I can also see how on the outside, my Fi seems to be very fluid, even though internally it's supposed to be like a very deep knowing of who they are.
But honestly I'm kind of glad that I found this.
interesting observation. I am curious what your type is?
hell yes
@@PowerRedBullTypology infp
Are you an isfp 😊
@@littlesunshine603 nope!
If we are to believe Jung's theory of the collective unconscious, the Ni doesn’t engage only through external experience: “Intuition, in the introverted attitude, is directed upon the inner object, a term we might justly apply to the elements of the unconscious. For the relation of inner objects to consciousness is entirely analogous to that of outer objects, although theirs is a psychological and not a physical reality. Inner objects appear to the intuitive perception as subjective images of things, which, though not met with in external experience, really determine the contents of the unconscious, i.e. the collective unconscious, in the last resort.” Crazy S...t 😁
Kate I think you meant Istp... infp superego is istp 💙. Interesting view about cultural archetype...
yes, I'm an ISTP 😉
@TypeMatch, you have a very attractive mind, and you’re not too bad on the eyes as well.
16:44 And here’s the story about how this video was titled.
As long as you think value is nothing or made up you will Continue to be confused
I loved this discussion, well done
I am an istp and I still resonate with the istp girl mentioned in the beginning, yes I will analyze but it's not like I really don't feel , as I am analyzing I am going to be feeling that COMFORT that drives me to bother and see if I want this or not in the first place but without it I wouldn't go deep with the analyzation anyway and would be like NOPE .
I don't think the girl is an ISTP. I've watched her videos and there's no evidence of logic.
@@TypeMatch can you tell me her channel name
1:07:00 Here’s what happens when these two types spend too long together 😂
As far as I know se is about SHARING experience but si is about HAVING the experience for themselves ( because introverted function) , so actually si users are more willing to go try things out to know if it suits them to instill it into their si system without the showing off component of se , if the exploration is because of ne then it would be more theoritecaly ( like reading ) when they are in their comfort zone I guess . Intps have that ne higher but they're less likely to be physically active like estjs and statistically most athletes are stjs and stps .
I agree about Si is more related to the experience for the individual themselves. However, I am a bit skeptical in which degree Si itself wants to experience new things. It seems it's quite hestiant to try new things, as it does not as easily just improveses in relation to new experiences like Se and unlike intuitive functions can not realy imagine things that are not internalized (remembered) before (like a previous similar experience).
It seems to me that it's the Ne in an individual is the one that might make them curious about the conceptual idea of a new experience, which might or might not trigger them enough to actually also go do the new experience.
It seems to me Si kind of wants to be prepared for whatever is coming and sort of internally wants to prepare it's mind when possible. However, when the experience is going to be new and different, that will be hard to do.
@@PowerRedBullTypology i agree ne is responsible for curiosity here but si is the one that does , i personally think that the lower si is , the less power and also dimentions it has to work through , so an intp despite seeing all the concepts and possibilities of an experience they will be way lazier to do it than an istj , the doing part is higher in istjs . about se being more drawn to experiences than si , i admit i am kinda confused too , i heard about the se from a person and related so i trusted the si explanation because i can never get the essence of it anyway . what i know is se likes to give experience to si and si likes to receive it , if an si hero is mature with ne inferior they will be the most likely in my opinion to seek new experience even more than se heroes when mature , i still believe se focuses more on sharing . but of course the majority are not mature so i see your point . maybe i should do more research . so what is the difference between se and si seeking experiences in your opinion
@@malakashraf2801 In types with the Se/Ni axis it's very clear that Se is both the active function (extroverted) and orientated in the concrete (sensing) which makes it clear it's the most likely try to expeience new things (because a new thing is sensing and active). Ni on he other hand is introverted and thus passive and metaphysical and thus not sensing.
However, in types with Si/Ne it's less clear which function should be called responsible for doing new things as the interest in new things comes from Ne and activity comes from Si. However, Si on itself is not curious as It's a sensing function that is not orienated towards exploring the unknown, but rather aimed on finetuning the known. That is why they often end up doing the same kind of things over and over, each time finetuning the process more and more.
It seems in general so much easier to explain how Se/Ni works than how Ne/Si works. It even seems more simple to explain how someone should use the functions Ni/Se rather than Ne/Si.