lmfao they’re doing well. Not nearly as caught up at all. The current gen & previous gen EN are still inferior to even the fk8 Type R. Let alone the new gen.
Very happy this video was suggested to me by TH-cam. I always look for comparisons between the type R and GR, you did a great job with videography and scripting and comparing them in terms of what matters most! Best of luck with the channel
Thank you! Very cool to see all the Breville machines on your channel. The sea salt and brass one looks stunning! I used my first revile over the weekend at a neighbour's home and was very impressed by what it can do at that price point!
Hey I'm from BC as well. I ordered my EN and just waiting for it to come in. Test drove a stick shift and could not find anything wrong with the car. Had to buy one.
I got 74000km on my 2023 EN 6MT and you won't regret. If you got the tires, you'll find it does suprisinly well charging up those snow filled climbs that would cause it to slide back down if no momentum.
@@la.m240i6 Great job on the track! I enjoyed watching you go around the track on Vancouver Island! Pretty cool you have all the data overlayed on your footage too!
Love them camera angles while you're talking, catchin me off guard. On a serious note, debating on a type r, ITS, and 2025 DAT GRC rn. The EN has passed through my mind but idk... my S2k is my fun manual car, I'd be selling my 2023 CVT WRX to get a new daily. DECISIONS!!
If you have a S2000 already, it might be more handy to have a larger and more comfortable car to daily like the Type R or Integra Type S. The GR Corolla is pretty small and may not be that practical unless you're regularly going into the city and have small parking spots!
Had a focus ST. Will never buy another FWD car again. Got the 2024 GRC premium for 39,500. Money left over for mods (tune and intake first). Love it! Sounds great as well with no lame fake cabin sound (looking at you Honda).
Yeah. Fwd cars suck. End of story. There ok stock ad long as you can get cheap tires, but when you mod them...broken cv axles, no traction, tires last 3k miles, torque steer, understeer, wheel hop. Why Honda continues to make fast fwd cars...I don't know.
I appreciate the fun of FWD! You can’t burnout or get wheel spin in an AWD car like you can FWD, I enjoy the theatrics of the FWD. I got my Elantra N for $32k, I’ve had it 3 years now, spent $0 on maintenance since Hyundai includes it free for 3 years. I’ve done autocross and drag racing. It surprisingly does well at both. I’m getting 4.6second 0-60s out of a stock car with nothing but better tires. Hard to beat on dry pavement. I do wish I had AWD in the winter, but I have a second car for bad weather anyways! Can’t really go wrong with any of these 3 to be fair.
@@nezabytesprobably because they don’t fit your driving style. The type r and Elantra n are meant for canyons and track days. Plus having fwd is the lighter format.
@@nezabytes the type R has changed my opinion on FWD. I come from an STI and the type R is better in every way other than the engine sound. Can’t beat that boxer rumble.
Thank you! In terms of liveability in the city, the Type R is the most capable as a daily driver! The Elantra N is really good too, just the brace in the trunk prevent you from loading long items. Personally, the GR Corolla is too stiff and small for daily driving. The AWD system is very nice to have
100%! I feel the same way about the GR Corolla. It was my least favourite to live with as a daily vehicle. The Elantra N is really good for what you get at that price point! Since you own one, do you ever have issues living with it? The only thing that was an issue for me is the brace in the trunk. I often commute with a lot of gear and having that there kinda hinders the usability for me.
@ yes 100% the type r holds value very well, but i can’t justify to daily such a nice car in the winter with all the salt we have here on the roads. I feel the type r should be more of a weekend car. In canada an used type r is around 55k and an used elantra n 38k. Even if it depreciates more % the actual amount might be less. Also its more fun to drive and comes with a better exhaust. Also engine down heat soak like the type r. Only thing i dislike are the looks, thats why i bought it in black lol
@@theNewCarGuy-CA no issues so far apart from Hyundai horns that fail lol, it has dual personality, jack and jekyll type. The trunk is huge so i don’t mind the brace. I even put my 29” mountain bike through the top of the brace. If its an issue its just 4 bolts.
EN may not be a hatch, but the N is the best of the bunch for the money. Type R still overheats they changed nothing regarding that issue, bad intake design that carried over to this generation, super aggressive rebound rates making the type R unbearable on alot of tracks. And way too expensive. (Yes I can afford one, it's a Civic calm down not a Lambo...) GR Corolla, has overheating on the drivetrain (remedies are becoming available). Engine blowing up lately on media posts and forums/Oil leaks, I've seen it leak oil myself in Illinois on a highway. Not a great interior for what you're expecting. Elantra N cheapest of the bunch, interior design is nice, not the best materials but not horrible either. Double water pump/pulley design for cooling. Great exhaust and great driving dynamics for the price. EN is just a less refined version of the type R, but much more rowdy and fun and super engaging. Mods are cheapest among the other 2 options and can really dial in the car to feel like a type R if that's your fancy. Fun facts: Hyundai N X Toyota GR had a festival collab in korea to celebrate their brands performance strides and pedigrees last month. Hyundai N TCR is the IMSA class leader in TCR racing for the last 5+ years now, and has won Nurburgring 24HR tcr class for 4+ years straight placed among 21st place out of the hundreds of cars (21st may need to be fact checked im going based on memory but it is low 20s) Genesis (hyundai luxury) is entering the Le mans racing
@layne4376 oh honey the Type R is not great in the cold either. And if anything it's not even as comfy suspension wise as a daily compared to the N. Many type r Owners that transition to the N say that it's more comfy and winter friendly. I live in Illinois believe me..... And pls depreciation you're looking at 25-30% depending on region and use case per nationwide data .. it doesn't help insurance puts the N model as a base model either. That's really not bad all things considered. And compared to the type R the people paying premium for that car don't understand that your resale only applies to the MSRP that's what depreciation is based off of. And mods on the type R is what most owners do anyways spending $10k plus to get it running right, I say THATS a worse depreciation from mods alone too comapred to the N's which are significantly cheaper I can spend $3k for what $10k gets you on a type R or GR
@@anthonyscott5484dude I don’t think you of know anything about the type R. First of all it has active suspension. And if the comfort mode is still to rough for you, the $230 integra suspension module fixes that. Second, I paid msrp for the type R two weeks ago. The days of huge markups are over. Third, the car is nearly perfect out of the factory. It does not need $10k to “get it running right” by any stretch of the imagination. I know you’re enjoying your N and justifying your choice and that’s cool, but at least be accurate about the Type R or drive one before you say things.
Good review. Quality of the video. Presentation is good . I would just fact check your numbers . 315HP in NA markets. No Eco Mode. It’s comfort. On FL5.
Good catch! 😅 I couldn't find a B-Roll package for the current gen Type R from Honda so I just used the last gen. It would've been great if I could film my own rollers on the track!
NGL, having a real hand brake is super nice. It's part of the reason I gravitate to the MX5 as my weekend fun car. It just doesn't have the practicality of the Type R.
Gr yaris mk1 is the best hot hatch but out of this lot I would go for Hyundai not a fan of the Honda to big for a hot hatch & the corolla gr just not as cool as the gr yaris homologation mk1
I love how people insist that a manual gearbox is required for driver engagement, yet they are perfectly happy to ignore that power steering, power-brakes, and turbocharging are all technological developments that have made cars faster and easier to drive. If you don't want the far superior and faster DCT that the Elantra N has, fine, but remove the hydraulic assist on your steering and brakes too. And why use an IRS, why not stick with leaf springs and an open diff while you are eschewing technology? I assume that you are converting your cars to use a hand crank to start as well?
only thing GRC has is the AWD and ability to accelerate better in less than ideal conditions. if you are okay with FWD, you get the EN if you can't afford the Type R. End of story.
@@boolji 2 have caught on fire out of 6000. Both of these under totally different circumstances with much more to the story than you care to research. It's less reliable? State facts. You are clearly someone lead around by false news and propaganda so good luck to you in life.
Agree! I have a mk8 r, the build quality is wayyyyyyy better than these three big time, a solid daily car for sure, and 0-100 is faster than all three. Might not be the fastest car on track, which I don't care I don't track it anyway, daily usage is unreal, and reasonable price. Type r in Canada here is around $70,000, that just overpriced and hype.
Nobody WANTS the Elantra N. It's a car somebody impulsively buys, and then defends it to the death (for some reason), because the better cars like the CTR and GR Corolla are more expensive. That's the legacy of the Elantra N.
You sound like you’re defending whatever car you own lol, you’re trippin, the new N is the lighter and arguably fastest out of these, best exhaust out of the box, go test drive one it’s serious, obviously the looks is an acquired taste but I like it
Hyundai has caught up with Honda in one step which has a history of 30+ years, isn't that a great success
For real, their portfolio of vehicles have improved so much from when they first entered North America.
lmfao they’re doing well. Not nearly as caught up at all. The current gen & previous gen EN are still inferior to even the fk8 Type R. Let alone the new gen.
The N depreciates like a stone and is far from a paradigm of reliability. They need another 10 years.
They’re making very good cars lately but they need help in the design department. The Elantra N looks very awkward just like the Veloster
Type R will last a very very long time. Engine is bulletproof and it's made in Japan.
Very happy this video was suggested to me by TH-cam. I always look for comparisons between the type R and GR, you did a great job with videography and scripting and comparing them in terms of what matters most! Best of luck with the channel
Thank you! Very cool to see all the Breville machines on your channel. The sea salt and brass one looks stunning! I used my first revile over the weekend at a neighbour's home and was very impressed by what it can do at that price point!
Hey I'm from BC as well. I ordered my EN and just waiting for it to come in. Test drove a stick shift and could not find anything wrong with the car. Had to buy one.
I got 74000km on my 2023 EN 6MT and you won't regret. If you got the tires, you'll find it does suprisinly well charging up those snow filled climbs that would cause it to slide back down if no momentum.
You will not regret. Amazing car.
Hope you get to enjoy it soon!
I have a '23 EN and I am from BC. I track it regularly. It's on my channel
@@la.m240i6 Great job on the track! I enjoyed watching you go around the track on Vancouver Island! Pretty cool you have all the data overlayed on your footage too!
Elantra N isnt a hatch
Their driver's always have Type R and GR on their minds may as well include it here 🤷🏾
We all know that, just focus on the comparison bruh and chill 😅
Yea people forget it’s a sport back model
@@Jesse-x4o or the other way around..
Like how they think the ioniq 5 N and kona N are "hatches"
Love them camera angles while you're talking, catchin me off guard. On a serious note, debating on a type r, ITS, and 2025 DAT GRC rn. The EN has passed through my mind but idk... my S2k is my fun manual car, I'd be selling my 2023 CVT WRX to get a new daily. DECISIONS!!
If you have a S2000 already, it might be more handy to have a larger and more comfortable car to daily like the Type R or Integra Type S. The GR Corolla is pretty small and may not be that practical unless you're regularly going into the city and have small parking spots!
Had a focus ST. Will never buy another FWD car again. Got the 2024 GRC premium for 39,500. Money left over for mods (tune and intake first). Love it! Sounds great as well with no lame fake cabin sound (looking at you Honda).
Yeah. Fwd cars suck. End of story. There ok stock ad long as you can get cheap tires, but when you mod them...broken cv axles, no traction, tires last 3k miles, torque steer, understeer, wheel hop. Why Honda continues to make fast fwd cars...I don't know.
Thank God there are awd kits for Hondas. It completely changes them into monsters. There should be kits for Fk8/ FL5s coming soon.
I appreciate the fun of FWD! You can’t burnout or get wheel spin in an AWD car like you can FWD, I enjoy the theatrics of the FWD. I got my Elantra N for $32k, I’ve had it 3 years now, spent $0 on maintenance since Hyundai includes it free for 3 years. I’ve done autocross and drag racing. It surprisingly does well at both. I’m getting 4.6second 0-60s out of a stock car with nothing but better tires. Hard to beat on dry pavement. I do wish I had AWD in the winter, but I have a second car for bad weather anyways! Can’t really go wrong with any of these 3 to be fair.
@@nezabytesprobably because they don’t fit your driving style. The type r and Elantra n are meant for canyons and track days. Plus having fwd is the lighter format.
@@nezabytes the type R has changed my opinion on FWD. I come from an STI and the type R is better in every way other than the engine sound. Can’t beat that boxer rumble.
2:58 he said the Type R pleasures you. Take my money. Also, nobody ever mentions how the Type R is seam welded and how that adds crazy stiffness.
When driving it hard, the stiffness is pretty noticeable, the car gets really bouncy on any uneven pavement ^^;;
You Should Do A Drag Race And A Commute/City Guide Video As Well. Keep Up The Good Work!!!!!!!
Thank you! In terms of liveability in the city, the Type R is the most capable as a daily driver! The Elantra N is really good too, just the brace in the trunk prevent you from loading long items. Personally, the GR Corolla is too stiff and small for daily driving. The AWD system is very nice to have
These aren’t drag racers though
Fl5 for me out of these three. Wouldn't keep it stock, though. But that's just me..😅
Too bad you can afford one lol.
@r3games1985 Yes, I can. Currently drive a 2023 rs3.
@@r3games1985how would you know what a stranger on TH-cam comment section afford?
@@ROVA00he's just projecting. He can't.
After test driving all 3 I bought the Elantra N, didn’t like the corolla at all and the type r is excellent but too pricey
100%! I feel the same way about the GR Corolla. It was my least favourite to live with as a daily vehicle. The Elantra N is really good for what you get at that price point!
Since you own one, do you ever have issues living with it? The only thing that was an issue for me is the brace in the trunk. I often commute with a lot of gear and having that there kinda hinders the usability for me.
I can understand this, but the Type R will absolutely hold much more value. Not saying a car is an investment but history shows this!
@ yes 100% the type r holds value very well, but i can’t justify to daily such a nice car in the winter with all the salt we have here on the roads. I feel the type r should be more of a weekend car. In canada an used type r is around 55k and an used elantra n 38k. Even if it depreciates more % the actual amount might be less. Also its more fun to drive and comes with a better exhaust. Also engine down heat soak like the type r. Only thing i dislike are the looks, thats why i bought it in black lol
@@theNewCarGuy-CA no issues so far apart from Hyundai horns that fail lol, it has dual personality, jack and jekyll type. The trunk is huge so i don’t mind the brace. I even put my 29” mountain bike through the top of the brace. If its an issue its just 4 bolts.
@danielsoto_toronto I can respect that
good video thank you
Thank you for watching! I hope to do more long form stuff this year
The N is the most fun to drive out of all of them
EN may not be a hatch, but the N is the best of the bunch for the money.
Type R still overheats they changed nothing regarding that issue, bad intake design that carried over to this generation, super aggressive rebound rates making the type R unbearable on alot of tracks. And way too expensive. (Yes I can afford one, it's a Civic calm down not a Lambo...)
GR Corolla, has overheating on the drivetrain (remedies are becoming available). Engine blowing up lately on media posts and forums/Oil leaks, I've seen it leak oil myself in Illinois on a highway. Not a great interior for what you're expecting.
Elantra N cheapest of the bunch, interior design is nice, not the best materials but not horrible either. Double water pump/pulley design for cooling. Great exhaust and great driving dynamics for the price. EN is just a less refined version of the type R, but much more rowdy and fun and super engaging. Mods are cheapest among the other 2 options and can really dial in the car to feel like a type R if that's your fancy.
Fun facts:
Hyundai N X Toyota GR had a festival collab in korea to celebrate their brands performance strides and pedigrees last month.
Hyundai N TCR is the IMSA class leader in TCR racing for the last 5+ years now, and has won Nurburgring 24HR tcr class for 4+ years straight placed among 21st place out of the hundreds of cars (21st may need to be fact checked im going based on memory but it is low 20s)
Genesis (hyundai luxury) is entering the Le mans racing
It is the only car that sucks in inclement weather and is disposable. Given the depreciation rates, there is little bang for the buck.
@layne4376 oh honey the Type R is not great in the cold either. And if anything it's not even as comfy suspension wise as a daily compared to the N. Many type r Owners that transition to the N say that it's more comfy and winter friendly. I live in Illinois believe me..... And pls depreciation you're looking at 25-30% depending on region and use case per nationwide data .. it doesn't help insurance puts the N model as a base model either. That's really not bad all things considered. And compared to the type R the people paying premium for that car don't understand that your resale only applies to the MSRP that's what depreciation is based off of. And mods on the type R is what most owners do anyways spending $10k plus to get it running right, I say THATS a worse depreciation from mods alone too comapred to the N's which are significantly cheaper I can spend $3k for what $10k gets you on a type R or GR
@@anthonyscott5484dude I don’t think you of know anything about the type R.
First of all it has active suspension. And if the comfort mode is still to rough for you, the $230 integra suspension module fixes that.
Second, I paid msrp for the type R two weeks ago. The days of huge markups are over.
Third, the car is nearly perfect out of the factory. It does not need $10k to “get it running right” by any stretch of the imagination.
I know you’re enjoying your N and justifying your choice and that’s cool, but at least be accurate about the Type R or drive one before you say things.
@ROVA00 whatever you say bud, drive both cars then talk to me
@ROVA00 should prolly go watch some honest real reviews of the R on track not just people who glaze over it
Great video, thank you 😊😊😊
You bring a unique flavor.
Good review. Quality of the video. Presentation is good . I would just fact check your numbers . 315HP in NA markets. No Eco Mode. It’s comfort. On FL5.
Thank you for the feedback, I will double check the specs on future reviews!
Good review! Keep up the great work! 😎
Thank you!
Love my 25 EN.
Down to earth review
Thank you!
Great review, thoroughly enjoyed it! Curious to why the FK8 Type R was at the end of the video?
Good catch! 😅 I couldn't find a B-Roll package for the current gen Type R from Honda so I just used the last gen. It would've been great if I could film my own rollers on the track!
N 4 the win
To the junkyard.
@@layne4376crazy how a 30k car is in the same performance bracket as cars 20k more then it, what’s the real junk? Lmao
The golf R was on sick leave so they put in the Elantra N instead 😂
Probably at the shop getting repaired
The Elantra N is more fun to drive.
Would get Civic Type R all day
Only if it had REAL side brake instead of E-brake
NGL, having a real hand brake is super nice. It's part of the reason I gravitate to the MX5 as my weekend fun car. It just doesn't have the practicality of the Type R.
46th subscriber here
Thank you for following along!
The Elantra does not have new rear lights.
Gr yaris mk1 is the best hot hatch but out of this lot I would go for Hyundai not a fan of the Honda to big for a hot hatch & the corolla gr just not as cool as the gr yaris homologation mk1
Excellent review and comparisons. Thinking of trading in my S2000 for the Type R.
Please dont
don't do it
I'll buy a Type R and trade you lol
I wouldn't... S2K is an icon
Don’t trade in! Have both!
uh Golf R?
I met some recently who owns the new Golf R, I might do an update next year if all these cars are available for booking on the same week
It's a shame Americans can't get the GR Yaris for 11 years.
I want all the hot hatches and wagons to be in North America!
It's not sold in the us??
@@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621 Nope, the Yaris family was removed from the US as it had poor sales given the US don't like small cars lol
Between the 3. I would pick the Honda type R
That's my pick too. If I can get it for MSRP
@theNewCarGuy-CA agree on that
The Elantra N isn't a hatch
I love how people insist that a manual gearbox is required for driver engagement, yet they are perfectly happy to ignore that power steering, power-brakes, and turbocharging are all technological developments that have made cars faster and easier to drive. If you don't want the far superior and faster DCT that the Elantra N has, fine, but remove the hydraulic assist on your steering and brakes too. And why use an IRS, why not stick with leaf springs and an open diff while you are eschewing technology? I assume that you are converting your cars to use a hand crank to start as well?
only thing GRC has is the AWD and ability to accelerate better in less than ideal conditions.
if you are okay with FWD, you get the EN if you can't afford the Type R. End of story.
So you have driven all 3 I assume? Or talking out your arse. I have a GRC and it has much more than AWD only.
@@CharlesB46 oh silly me. I forgot to mention, it's less reliable than the EN and CTR and has more to catch on fire. and you can't go over 85mph
@@boolji 2 have caught on fire out of 6000. Both of these under totally different circumstances with much more to the story than you care to research. It's less reliable? State facts. You are clearly someone lead around by false news and propaganda so good luck to you in life.
Driving on less ideal conditions is definitely where the GRC will shine. For most people FWD is good enough!
That’s not the end of the story lol, the N is arguably the better car for 20k less, you’d be a moron to buy an R
Golf R BETTER than all 3
* *looks up car and drivers list of best compact sports cars* *
* *sees the golf R at 6th behind all these cars* *
Agree! I have a mk8 r, the build quality is wayyyyyyy better than these three big time, a solid daily car for sure, and 0-100 is faster than all three. Might not be the fastest car on track, which I don't care I don't track it anyway, daily usage is unreal, and reasonable price. Type r in Canada here is around $70,000, that just overpriced and hype.
What about the Golf R
sterile
Should have been hottest economy car
Elantra n isn’t a hatchback. It’s a saloon. I’ve reported your video for misinformation
Calm down, Squidward
Nobody WANTS the Elantra N. It's a car somebody impulsively buys, and then defends it to the death (for some reason), because the better cars like the CTR and GR Corolla are more expensive. That's the legacy of the Elantra N.
You sound like you’re defending whatever car you own lol, you’re trippin, the new N is the lighter and arguably fastest out of these, best exhaust out of the box, go test drive one it’s serious, obviously the looks is an acquired taste but I like it
Not hottest hatches more like turbo 4s
GR is 3 cyl.
1 civic type r best
For sure one of my fav cars I've tested :D
Golf R still king
Lol
I really wanted to include the Golf R in this review but VW doesn't have a press fleet in Vancouver and I didn't know any owners of the car.
False
@@theNewCarGuy-CA you are not missing out, its a great car but you feel nothing, very sterile and polished car
Stop the 🧢
Would rather take the type r, hoon the gr and give the N to the dealership