I’m disheartened to see the confusion about the Catholic Church in this video. I encourage you all to learn more about the teachings of Catholicism and not to gloss over the truth found in the Catholic Church. Please just pray and love God with honesty and an unbiased love of the truth that is God.
I encourage you to seek Christ, not any religion. It's Christ that will give you salvation. It is HE who will save you, not the Catholic church or any church for that matter. I was a Catholic and I was also a Religion teacher. So I know the teachings and the history of Catholicism. The problem was that I realized that I was more focused on religion and rituals and not on a relationship with Jesus. Seek Jesus and you will find HIM, not the catholic church. Spend your time with Christ and build a relationship with Him. That was what I did and He opened my eyes to the truth. I pray the same for you. God bless!
I do seek Jesus and I find him in the Catholic Church. I understand that you had a difficult time recognizing the truth of Catholicism, and I don’t know at all the details of what led you to focus on the rituals and the religion itself in a way that distracted you from personal relationship with Christ, but that is not the focus or truth of Catholicism. The Catholic Church does not call Christians to devote themselves to meaningless ritual or worship of anything but the one true God who is Jesus Christ. The rituals and religious structures of the church are given by Christ as a means to lead us to him. I pray that you may find Christ also and for your peace along the journey. I do also hope that you might recognize the goodness and the presence of God to be found in the Catholic faith.
@bxd7793 I was brought up as roman catholic and reading the Bible was not encouraged and we practised kissing statue of Mary and Jesus, we prayed "Hail Mary" because Mary is co-redemptix, co-mediatrix as an intecessor between God and man as part of RC's doctrine. John 3.16, Acts 4.12 and John 6.40 to believe in CHRIST alone not church, not religion
@@bxd7793 I appreciate your heartfelt and loving response. if someone accused me of not having a relationship with Christ because I was a Catholic, I would not have been so tolerant to my response. It always saddens me to hear the hatred of Catholicism and the accusations made about how Catholics don’t know Christ etc. once people become protestant.
This man stated something demonstrably false @ 14:35. He says the Catholic Church teaches that penance is needed for absolution. THAT IS FALSE. That is not true. You can read this in the catechism (CCC # 1451 & 1452). I am a Catholic Priest and we teach, officially, that sins are forgiven at contrition -- sorrow for the sin and a desire for forgiveness -- and penances are a means for us to focus our life on the goods of God. They are not required to receive absolution.
Thank you, Father. heartbreaking isn’t it, that someone who was catechized Catholic could speak these falsehoods about our church. And make a living from it.
What does a catechism have to do with being saved by grace alone? Why would any church need an explanation manual to further "explain" God's loving Bible? I pray everyone finds Jesus the way God intended, not the way human self would lead us. God bless
I feel for Mike, he is a victim of poor catechisis. Most of his issues with Catholicism are not even what the Church teaches. He reminds myself when I was protestant. Praise God he bought me to his One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
@@RS54321 "Why don't you identify as a Christian, instead of identifying with a church?" Because it's only protestants who try to make a distinction, a reflection of animosity and a source of division never found in Christianity for over 1500 years. *St Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of St John. His words below* “See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the appointment of God. *Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it.* Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, *wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”* Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110). *St Irenaeus below* “[N]or does it consist in this, that he should again falsely imagine, as being above this [fancied being], a Pleroma at one time supposed to contain thirty, and at another time an innumerable tribe of Aeons, as these teachers who are destitute of truly divine wisdom maintain; while *the Catholic Church possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world,* as we have already said.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1: 10,3 (A.D. 180). *St Cyprian* ”Whence you ought to know that the bishop is in the Church, and the Church in the bishop; and if any one be not with the bishop, that he is not in the Church, and that those flatter themselves in vain who creep in, not having peace with God’s priests, and think that they communicate secretly with some; while *the Church, which is Catholic and one, is not cut nor divided, but is indeed connected and bound together by the cement of priests who cohere with one another.”* Cyprian, To Florentius, Epistle 66/67 (A.D. 254). *St Cyril of Jerusalem* *“[T]he Article, In one Holy Catholic Church,’ on which, though one might say many things, we will speak but briefly. It is called Catholic then because it extends over all the world, from one end of the earth to the other; and because it teaches universally and completely one and all the doctrines which ought to come to men’s knowledge, concerning things both visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly… for this cause the Faith has securely delivered to thee now the Article, And in one Holy Catholic Church;’ that thou mayest avoid their wretched meetings, and ever abide with the Holy Church Catholic in which thou wast regenerated. And if ever thou art sojourning in cities, inquire not simply where the Lord’s House is (for the other sects of the profane also attempt to call their own dens houses of the Lord), nor merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God.”* Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, 18: 23,26 (A.D. 350). I could go on .... and on.
This is a poor argument, as well as a shot at protestants. I see this same argument over and over. Any criticisms leveled against the Catholic church is apparently false and based on the ignorance of individual. I find it highly unlikely that somany former Catholics are mistaken.
@@vladtheinhaler8940 it isn’t meant to be a dig at Protestants. This is the experience of so many, lots of us were bought up Catholic didn’t know the faith, left it for Protestant denominations and discovered the truth years later. I personally know lots of reverts with this. When an “ex-Catholic” tells you what we believe check it against the catechism
The problem with these grievances is that they can be applied to people who grew up in protestant homes with poor spiritual guidance. At the heart of these issues isn’t Catholicism. In fact, as a protestant, I left that world for Catholicism after much discernment. Read the Bible, get under the guidance of someone who knows the faith, but I would not blame the whole of Christianity for an angsty teen who grew up in a lukewarm religious home coming to me and going “I went to church but I don’t get it”. In a similar way, I’d encourage not blaming Christ’s Church for bad catechesis - which is a real thing and needs to be dealt with, and thank God is being dealt with.
Grievances? Like the Catholic church removing the 2nd Commandment from the Bible and dividing the 10th into two Commandments? Go read a NKJ, KJ, or NASB Exodus 20. Catholics removed it because they went against God to create images of what God commanded them not to do. Like the mass where priests call Jesus out of heaven to sacrifice him over and over again? Like transubstantiation where the bread and wine are believed to actual transform into the body and blood of Jesus? Like creating the priesthood where Catholics have to go to earthly fathers for the forgiveness of sins, instead of going DIRECTLY to God and asking for His forgiveness. Like priest being a mediator between man and God, when the Bible specifically says There is ONE mediator between man and God, that mediator is Jesus Christ. Like praying to Mary who cannot hear your prayers. No, only the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can hear our prayers. Like believing that Mary was without sin when Jesus was conceived? Then why did the Bible say she went to the Temple to give a sin offering? Like believing that Mary never had sex with Joseph when the Bible says that Joseph did not KNOW her until the birth of Jesus. Where the Bible says that Jesus had a number of brotherS and sisterS? Like stopping priests and nuns from marrying resulting in sexual abuse because both men and women could not enjoy what God has given us? Like baptizing babies that have NO scriptural basis? and so on and so on. The Bible ALONE is God's will and word. All you have to do is read it to see the contradictions between the Bible and Catholic teachings.
@@karlheven8328 This is one of the reasons why I've always found myself drawn to Baptist/Anabaptist denominations. They seem to attempt to emulate what it would have been like for the first generation of Christian converts in the Roman Empire. First generation Christians didn't get baptized as infants, and neither do they. First generation Christian churches weren't these gigantic Cathedrals with stain glass windows (which I love by the way), they were plain utilitarian places like homes, and so are their churches. First generation Christians often didn't have access to intermediaries like priests and bishops who could help them get to God, they had to foster their relationship with God much more personally and much more one-on-one often times (due to how much smaller the early Christian communities were). And perhaps most importantly, first generation Christians had to freely choose to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior themselves, no one gave them that faith from birth, and they have to as well (hence why the Amish for example have that period of time where their children live outside of the community. They don't want their children to simply say they believe in Jesus and choose to follow him, they want that to be their free choice just like it was for the first generation of Christians). Regardless of which denomination I finally become rooted in, there's something I find beautiful about this, and I hope even the most Conservative Catholics and Orthodox can find at least some beauty in this as well. Unless I'm radically misunderstanding it, I for my part also certainly respect that the Catholic Church's goal is for every member to emulate Jesus' perfection in their working out of their salvation after their baptism and confirmation, even if I ultimately reject that soteriology.
I've watched over 50 videos of Protestants vs Catholics and people converting from one to the other and vice versa. None converting to Catholicism started with "How the Lord save me from protestantism (in a condescending manner)", they usually do their homework and find out the truth shining magnificently before their very eyes and gladly choose with immense joy. Proud Catholic here and an even prouder Christian
Bingo. Also, I've never seen a Catholic who knew their faith become a Protestant. It's always Catholics who didn't know their faith. The opposite is true though: when Protestants who knows their faith study more deeply, particularly the early church's beliefs before Constantine allegedly created the Catholic Church, they end up becoming Catholic.
Then you don't know any former catholics. I was a devout tradcath and it was the most toxic religious community and the most corrupt church. I did my homework and the teachers of the faith still did not have any realy answers. Your pride in your faith is sinful and you are closer to dogma than to God.@@KEP1983
Yes! I found myself listening to podcasts titled “Protestant to catholic” so I thought why not listen to some catholic to Protestant vids. Just to hear what people have to say and for some strengthening of faith. But I have noticed the same things!
@@Enne_esse Neither have I ever known a Catholic who knew their faith and became protestant. " teachers of the faith still did not have any realy answers. " Please explain where in John 6, where Jesus is speaking symbolically ONLY : 53 So *Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;* 54 he who *eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life,* and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For *my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.* 56 *He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.* 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so *he who eats me will live because of me.* Protestantism, wherever and if they celebrate the Lord's Supper, does so most commonly with grape juice and bread. That's all it ever is, nothing more. It's not the resurrected Christ, and there is no grace contained.
I just recently left the catholic church after being in it for 24 years, I'm so thankful that God opened my eyes and revealed the truth to me. I was so luke warm I was growing cold. I went to church all my life, and I was still so blind, Now I have an intimate relationship with Jesus. He saved my life.
I am very sorry to my core that you did not take the time to reeducate yourself about Catholicism via RCIA and ask questions of your local priest, and whomever you could ask, who would’ve been very happy to help you relearn your Catholic faith before you ran to a protestant tradition who believe the Catholics are going to hell. Please, do not turn your back on Our Lady as she has never turned her back on you; and consider being reeducated in the Catholic tradition before becoming completely immersed in, protestant stances. I’m not saying that you can’t leave, just that you learn. Once you have learned as an adult, you, the traditions and Sacrament information at the Catholic Church, you may make an educated decision (not one based upon prejudice and bias) about whether you should leave the church. By the way, although you’ve been told differently, Catholics are not all going to hell by virtue of the fact that they’re Catholic. Look up Keith Nester on TH-cam, he does an excellent job of explaining Catholicism, and he also started a weekly rosary service called the rosary crew in which people participate from all over the world. Vivo Cristo Rey. ❤ God Bless.
@@eireannemerald1382 'Please, do not turn your back on Our Lady as she has never turned her back on you' You are referring to Mary, no? Where are you getting this teaching from? We are to turn to Christ, the only one who saves, not his mother, who was a mere human and died, like all of us will.
@@RS54321 yes, I am refer, as you call her, “just a woman,” although her real name is Regina, queen of heaven, star of the sea, mother of God, our Lady of Guadalupe, Notre Dame, our Lady of Lourdes, our Lady of Fatima (you surely must’ve heard of the Prophecies of Fatima and which Mary appeared, and gave prophecies to three village children in Fatima) These are but a few names that Our Lady, Notre Dame, is called. Jesus called her Mother. of course, we turn to Jesus but we, the faithful, also know the role of Mary as intercessor, healer, divine inspiration, among any other things. I’m sorry that you don’t know that. why do you learn these teachings? We learn them from our church, from the priest, who Jesus called to serve him. You may want to look up a famous Italian Catholic priest,, an exorcist called father amorth. He said when he speaks Mary’s name, the demon starts screaming because they cannot tolerate her name because of her holiness. Pretty sure that if you’re interested, she will in her own private manner respond. Oh, just to let you know, be very careful in the manner. What do you speak about Jesus’s mother. he wouldn’t want to offend him. Just some advice. With love, the faithful. so I’m asking you the same: please, do not turn your back on Our Lady. She has never turned her back on you. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us simmers now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
I suppose. The Catholic Church is not merely the Latin (colloquially Roman) Catholic Church. It’s composed of 24 sub iuris churches, of which the Latin (Roman) church is by far the largest
God does NOT bless religion. He will bless all people who follow Him and only Him. Who speaks His name as God and their savior. Amos 5 21 “I hate, I despise your religious festivals; your assemblies are a stench to me. 22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Though you bring choice fellowship offerings, I will have no regard for them. 23 Away with the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps.
@@styles3349note how that passage is directly addressing particular religions, not condemning religion wholesale. The scripture actually directly provides the foundations for the religious practices of the Israelites. How is that a condemnation of religion? Also following God and praising him together is literally the entire purpose of religion. If you want to do those things religion provides the most fulfilling way to directly love and follow God without the distractions of your personal intellectual and spiritual shortcomings, united in communion with God through the church.
@@bxd7793 That's true. Amos was called to speak at a time when the kingdom of Israel was doing very well, were gaining land and wealth, but they had forgotten the heart of God. But That doesn't mean it can't be applied in the modern day. It is a reminder that all of these things - false piety, and empty offerings - we do that we think please God are not important. What God simply wants from us is to love Him with all our hearts. so here is a Genuine question that I will not argue on but rather plainly hear. Do you love your religion more than God? Since the Bible says, whatever we love more than God is called idolatry. And loving religion makes us commit idolatry. Jesus says in Matthew 10:37 "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me." And if you love God more than anything, If God says to you today, give up your religion, your offerings, the catholic sacraments, your love for mary and figures, and "saints" declared by the pope. Give them up and follow Jesus as the only mediator (1 timothy 2:5) , give them up and walk by faith and not by sight (2 cor 5:7). Will you obey Him?
This is excellent! I also was raised Roman Catholic Italian and I never heard the gospel of grace that I can rely on Jesus for my salvation and I don’t need to be focused on my good works anymore. I believed it and I changed and I know I was born again. Dead religion versus being saved and knowing Christ! That was 16 years ago and never looked back!
Praise the Lord Jesus amen,amen, and amen..!! All heaven rejoiced for one soul saved..!! Hallelujah...there is 😊 joy...joy in the Lord Jesus Christ..!!
I am so sorry if you thought that Catholicism teaches you not to rely on Jesus for your salvation. It absolutely teaches to rely on Jesus. However, you can lose your salvation with evil works because you are rejecting Jesus' grace, in which case you need to repent, confess them, and turn back to Jesus. Catholicism is all about Jesus' grace.
Thank you for your testimony Mike. I have been a Catholic for 40 years until God's mercy opened my eyes to the truth of His Word. For the longest time I couldn't compromise my faith with what was written in the Bible. I have attended Catholic Bible studies but it seemed filtered and the nuns cannot answer why the truth of the Bible was never taught in such depth in the church. I can relate to Mike's testimony. The things that kept me from truly knowing Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and savior are culture, tradition and other people's opinion. But the truth did set me free. I pray for my family and other Catholics, that God will open their eyes and ears to the truth of the Gospel. They are hard to reach because they have very strong convictions about their religion. They are sincere in their faith but it is more an allegiance to the Catholic church. May God humble their hearts to find themselves at the foot of the cross of Jesus Christ. I encourage everyone to please read the Bible and know the truth for yourself.
We were Roman Catholic "Nun" for most of our life. We left the church and have come to accept our Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour. It is a miracle and a great grace which we received to see the TRUTH. "Us" former Catholics KNOW that Catholics Worship Mary. God Bless you
@@servantsofthegospel6388 of course we know they worship Mary. We used to do that too. We were them. Bowing down in front of the statue. Pray to the saints and angels. Rosary... Only Jesus saves. He is our Lord and Savior. There is no other way to the Father. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life💖
@@patriciaw4270 You were never Catholic if you worshipped Mary. Catholics only worship God. Catholics HONOR Mary. If you had been any kind of Catholic, you would know that inside and out. Jesus never said "this is going to be just between you and me". God created family, fathers and mothers and children, it's a pattern that God created and said "HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER!". "And Mary said: "My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior. For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed. The Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name." Look around yourself, isn't it obvious that God, though he could have had a singular relationship with only you and him, instead created a more beautiful relationship with the entire holy family that you are invited to be part of?
Amen,amen,and amen.Thank you Jesus.! Very beautiful testimony of God opening your mind and heart to his word..!! God truly gives a new heart,new desires, all things have become new..!! Glory to God..!,
@@coldtruthrg120 I’m not exactly sure how to respond to this. I can however suggest that you look at some Catholic explanations of the Mass for some more information. God bless you and Our Lady keep you
@@user-fs9wj4wj2f the Catholic catechism explains the Eucharist as you call it as an ongoing sacrifice which is anti Bible. also there is no lady hearing your words
I never read the Bible because "the priests were telling me it's too difficult to understand." I've been a Catholic for longer than you were and never once in my life has a priest in all the parishes I've gone to said anything close to that. I find that incredibly difficult to believe. The priests I know promote Bible reading with an emphasis on the ancient practice of lectio divina.
Some Catholics have been told that. It's more an old school thing. My grandma used to say she wouldn't read the bible, because she didn't want to get her head screwed up like me. I've had Catholics online say that only the Catholic church can interpret the bible. They think we are being our own pope for reading it for ourselves.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 "I've had Catholics online say that only the Catholic church can interpret the bible." The Bible has historically (since the time of Christ) been interpreted as a community (i.e., Church). The Catholic, therefore, interprets the Bible within the parameters of Church teaching. We don't determine doctrines the way Protestants do because the 7 perfect Sacraments and doctrines of the Church are infallible. We do read it prayerfully and meditate upon it to grow in our faith. St. Jerome says "ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ!"
@@PizzaFvngs "In early Church history the only bible allowed in the building was the bible chained to the pulpit" Is that what you were told or can you give us a source? What specific time period are you referring to? The Catholic Church goes back to the time of Christ, but Protestantism is several hundred years later. The books of the NT were complied in the 4th century by the Catholic Church at council under the Pope. Bibles at that time were worth as much as a new sports car in todays money. Since the Bible was so valuable and the Catholic Church wanted EVERYONE to have access to the Bible, they chained them in certain instances. I believe this was mostly after the "Reformation" and happened in libraries. Protestants also chained their Bibles to prevent theft, just like their Catholic counterparts.
@@fantasia55It is not biblical to pray to or pray for the dead. These are false doctrines espoused by the catholic church. What Jesus did on the cross is sufficient however the catholic church would suggest that it wasn't, which is why purgatory is another falsehood of the catholic church. You cannot save yourself!
Mike Gendron claims that the Catholic Church doesn't go through the Bible and in particular in the verses he mentioned, Ephesians 2:8-9 and 2 Corinthians 5:21, yet this is demonstrably false. For example, Ash Wednesday we have the second readings from 2 Corinthians 5:20-6:2. Fourth Sunday of Lent (Laetare Sunday, or Rejoce Sunday) we have for the second reading Ephesians 2:4-10. This is Year B readings, which is THIS year. These words were spoken from the lips of a Catholic at Mass everywhere the Church has Mass on February 14, 2024 - Ash Wednesday, and on March 10, 2024 - Laetare Sunday. Mike Gendron must have slept during Mass if he didn't hear these words.
Mikes testimony’s is not credible, total misleading I’ve been catholic my lifetime and never heard anything that he said happened the fact he said he never read the Bible is total nonsense he’s lying in mass we read from O.T. The psalms, N.T. And the gospel and there Bible study in all churches if you go to mass everyday which you can unlike Protestants places where the pastor is married and only has time for a weekly service, you can read the entire Bible in a three year cycle liturgical tradition, front to back no kidding, so he’s misleading false pastor, wolf in sheep clothing….beware of false pastors Matthew 7:15..
"Penance is like a punishment?" All of what he's saying shows he never understood the Church. Look up Scott Hahn's testimony for a real testimony of someone who really understands.
Please read your Bible and learn what the true, original church believed. Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. For the first 280 years of Christian history, Christianity was banned by the Roman Empire, and Christians were terribly persecuted. This changed after the “conversion” of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine provided religious toleration with the Edict of Milan in AD 313, effectively lifting the ban on Christianity. Later, in AD 325, Constantine called the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify Christianity. Constantine envisioned Christianity as a religion that could unite the Roman Empire, which at that time was beginning to fragment and divide. While this may have seemed to be a positive development for the Christian church, the results were anything but positive. Just as Constantine refused to fully embrace the Christian faith but continued many of his pagan beliefs and practices, so the Christian church that Constantine and his successors promoted progressively became a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism. Following are a few examples: Most Roman Catholic beliefs and practices regarding Mary are completely absent from the Bible. Where did those beliefs come from? The Roman Catholic view of Mary has far more in common with the Isis mother-goddess religion of Egypt than it does with anything taught in the New Testament. Interestingly, the first hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship. The Lord’s Supper being a consumption of the literal body and blood of Jesus is not taught in the Bible. The idea that bread and wine are miraculously transformed into the literal body and blood of Jesus (transubstantiation) is not biblical. However, several ancient pagan religions, including Mithraism, which was very popular in the Roman Empire, had some form of “theophagy” (the eating of one’s god) as a ritualistic practice. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well. The idea that the Roman bishop is the vicar of Christ, the supreme leader of the Christian Church, is utterly foreign to the Word of God. The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, again, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. After the western half of the Roman Empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors-Pontifex Maximus. Many more examples could be given. These four should suffice in demonstrating the origin of the Catholic Church. Of course, the Roman Catholic Church denies the pagan origin of its beliefs and practices. The Catholic Church disguises its pagan beliefs under layers of complicated theology and church tradition. Recognizing that many of its beliefs and practices are utterly foreign to Scripture, the Catholic Church is forced to deny the authority and sufficiency of Scripture. The origin of the Catholic Church is the tragic compromise of Christianity with the pagan religions that surrounded it. Instead of proclaiming the gospel and converting the pagans, the Catholic Church “Christianized” the pagan religions and “paganized” Christianity. By blurring the differences and erasing the distinctions, the Catholic Church made itself attractive to the idolatrous people of the Roman Empire. One result was the Catholic Church becoming the supreme religion in the Roman world for centuries. However, another result was the most dominant form of Christianity apostatizing from the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the true proclamation of God’s Word. Second Timothy 4:3-4 declares, “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
Oh wow… so much of what he is saying is not what the Catholic Church teaches. Repent is still repent, penance is very different. As a mathematician I would hope he had his math formulas correct
There are spirit filled Catholics just as there are spirit filled Protestants. There are fake Catholics and there are fake Protestants. I am a Protestant but I can admit that the Lord can make Catholics who believe in the gospel and resurrection to stand on the Last day.
Yes, I full agree. There are Catholics that love Jesus and serve God so fervently. Some protestants become Catholic and feel much closer to God. Sometimes it goes this way. They have false doctrines, but I think we all do. I don't know how they have any peace w/ purgatory and all the punishment for temporal sin hanging over their head, but it's their belief. If feels like an oppressive weight to me to even think of it. I'm free in Christ, and I trust him fully for my salvation.
Even the worst Catholic should be able to tell the separated brethren that the most spirit filled person was the Virgin Mary. The bible quotes her as saying "My soul doth magnify the Lord" Gabriel said the Holy Ghost will overshadow you. episkiazō is the Greek word for overshadow used only five times in the whole bible. ἐπισκιάζω
I disagree. In 1985 I was saved in my apt alone. I only knew of Catholicism. Never heard the Gospel or ever met a born again Christian. Didn't even know that term. But I can tell you this. After that wonderful day the Lord came to me..I decided to go to a Catholic Church...when I opened the door I heard the Lord say, "I am not here". I also felt an immense evil and felt nauseated. No one swayed me. No one. It was the Lord. There is no way you can stay in that system. You cannot redeem it. You must come out.
@@maryr130 I have heard of people that were raised protestant Christian convert to Catholicism, because they were in a Catholic Mass and God spoke to them as well. It completely changed their love and devotion to God. One person said they just went through the motions because they were afraid of hell. Once they became Catholic, they loved going to church, the more the better, and continually wanted to praise and serve Jesus. I'm not Catholic either, but I do see it going both ways. Sometimes people have a closer walk w/ God to convert.
He wasn't properly educated as a Catholic, that's probably why he fell away. It makes sense though, he looks old enough to have been going through the worst parts of Vatican 2.
@@jgood6088 My grandparents are still Catholic too, unfortunately theology took a nose dive then, things are starting to get a little better, or at least there is a clearer division between faithful Catholics and the heretics in the Church.
@@mikeDeSales943 Unlike Mike Gendron Church, the Catholic Church is full of sinners . Sinners saved, being saved and having the hope of being saved. That's as Biblical as it gets.
You do realize this is the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, correct? Answer his assertions, don't just assert that he "wasn't properly educated as a Catholic."
And who handed them to Paul? Galatians 1:11-12 (KJV) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Paul is handing down doctrine he received straight from Jesus Christ, not doctrine invented by man. Mark 7:7-9 (KJV) Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
This guy is lying about Catholicism. I know. I'm a Catholic. He was just either looking for an "out" to indulge in some sinful behavior or he was too lazy to learn what Christ's one, true Church actually teaches.
Christ is our Lord and savior. Put your trust in God. Read his word. Be obedient and die to self. I put my trust in no man. But in God and God alone. Got saved me 7 years ago. His word is my compass and he speaks through his word. I lift up Christ and Christ alone. Thank you Lord for your sweet mercy which saved me. You pulled me out of the system of religion and pulled me to you. Keep reaching the lost my brother in Christ I too have come out of darkness into his marvelous light.
@@johnsteila6049 I know it can sound cringe sometimes but Protestants mean "ritualistic religion" when they say that. Of course Protestants believe in a deity and and following his commandments and other hallmarks of religion. I don't know who started that whole "relationship not religion" thing, but I think it's very counter productive to just re-define already existing words like the far-left does. The relationship part I can get behind, but I think they should say "relationship not dogma" instead of religion, but that's just me.
Religion is good with God you should read james 1:26-27, and if Jesus left his church we must be part of that church Matthew 16:18 and left (man) in and gave them authority to bind & loosen. 18-19
@@JustAskingQuestions8571 I agree. Protestantism emphasizes a personal relationship with Christ to deemphasizes the role of The Church. Both are important in reality.
I too grew up catholic. Turned away for slightly different reasons and because I became one guilt filled depressed mess. Took a long time before I felt the call back at a Baptist service. I grew to love the bible and realise how self righteous and filthy I was. Still struggling and sometimes wonder if any of us have a perfect doctrine
I am convinced that perfect doctrine is impossible. God is perfect and infinite, the same with his teachings. We will always struggle to perfectly represent those truths. I think the most we are capable of is a shadow, but we must have faith the shadows represent something real that we will be present for one day.
I was raised Catholic and tho I never rejected the faith I needed conversion. I stumbled upon a book by Francis DeSales THE CATHOLIC Controversy HE Evangelized 72000 FORMER Catholics during the reformation times. The tracts are 3 and 4 pages long. I encourage any Christian to read this. It really educated me on points of dogma disputed by Luther and the rest. All 72000 returned to the Church. This is amazing still.
I'm also convinced that "we see through a glass darkly", as 1 Corinthians 13 says. The RCC claims to have perfect doctrine. I know it is God's church too, but it's not perfect. The Jews were full of traditions of men in Jesus day, that Jesus called out, and it's the same today. Protestant churches are not better overall, but we are all struggling to serve God as best as we can.
Perfect doctrine? How can anyone claim to have perfect doctrine when Luther was allowed to rip out 7 books from the bible. That's not a very biblical thing to do. The bible always had 73 books in it not 66 books
@@uncatila Lets just stop blaming Luther for a minute. He wasn't a perfect person either, but he didn't claim to be. Those deuto-canon books were contested in the past, both by Jews and Christians. The issue is more that no one has perfect doctrine, but your church claims to be a perfect church w/ perfect doctrine.
I’m in a peculiar situation where I grew up Protestant, my immediate family walked away from church during my early teens. I became agnostic for 15 years, but praised the lord He called me back. After spending some time in a non-denominational church, reading the Bible , and strengthening my relationship with God, I found my myself being called to the Catholic Church. I resisted for a while because I didn’t understand it and had a lot of misconceptions. But I kept feeling the call to just learn about it with an open heart. And to my astonishment ever since I started embracing Catholicism, my relationship with God has gotten even stronger. I haven’t fully converted, still discerning and praying to God for guidance, hence why I’m here still listening to testimonies. I’ve listened to lots of testimonies from Protestant pastors who convert to Catholicism, but haven’t been able to find much on catholic priests or monastics converting to Protestantism. I think these testimonies from people who were poorly catechized are misleading. Unfortunately a lot of converts seem to know more about actual Catholic doctrine compared to cradle catholics, because they do so much research during the conversion/discernment period. For anyone wanting to learn more, please seek out information from people who are knowledgeable on the teachings of Catholicism or whatever Protestant denomination you are looking into. Learning about a denomination from someone who admits that they did not understand it, makes no sense. I truly believe reading the Bible and having a personal relationship with Christ is essential, and the Catholic church agrees! And we should be cautious of who’s interpreting the Bible for us, but if a catholic priest is not a trustworthy interpreter, what makes a Protestant pastor or even ourselves trustworthy interpreters? Why is bible study even necessary if we’re fully capable of understanding the word of God on our own? Protestants have been brainwashed to think they are living in a vacuum where it’s only them and God, reality is, unless you avoid church altogether, your church leaders are your interpreters. If someone knows of a denomination where they just read directly out of the Bible, without any sort of explanation or interpretation, please correct me. This comment is based on my limited experience at some “non-denominational” churches, I am not familiar with all Protestant traditions, which I could never never do since there’s so many!
I think you hit the nail on the head. I’m a cradle Catholic and I’m guilty of not reading my bible enough. Some of us may take what we have for granted and not apply ourselves to prove something we already believe in. I already started reading the Bible daily just to feel spend more time with God and his word. Coming from a very devout Catholic family, I have placed all my trust in the church teachings and I have experienced so many beautiful things in my faith that I could never go to another denomination. I love the Eucharist and have experienced a deeper love and longing for God through the intercession of Mary praying the rosary (Rosary 54 day novenas). I love the mass, adoration, all of the sacraments are beautiful. Please do look deeper in the Catholic faith. Recently I went to the Vatican and it was incredible to see the history and tradition of the church dating back to so many important events. The birth of Jesus and being able to see the relics of baby Jesus manger, a piece of the cross, the stairs Jesus stepped on while drops of his blood remain on these stairs. The succession of the Pope starting from Peter to pope Francis. Blessed Carlos Acutis and his incorrupt body in Assisi Italy. The Catholic Church is rich in tradition, blessings and it is the one true church. I’m leaving you a link of a “movie” that shows what happens during mass, this according to visions Catalina Rivas witnessed. She has the stigmata. God bless you on your journey… th-cam.com/video/udzU--dpWEI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4LwijbIz0R_eWEsz
I enjoyed your testimony, I am so pleased the Holy Spirit directed you to a journey of Bible truths. I picked up you mentioned going to Sunday services. To be a member of a Bible based church, you should keep the 4th Commandment. God in Revelation with the three angels message states -here are they that keep commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. Matthew 5:17. Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am pleased you came out if that Catholic system, Satan is so powerful in his church. Revin Evans Queensland Australia
What are the three angels messages? MESSAGE ONE Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. 7 And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.” MESSAGE TWO 8 Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion[ of her sexual immorality.” MESSAGE THREE 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” *************************************************** Now what does the SDA church say are the three angels messages. By the way, is the date 1844 in the Bible somewhere? MESSAGE ONE The first angel's message was proclaimed in 1843/1844 through those who were erroneously announcing the imminent return of Jesus. Ellen White, Seventh-day Adventism's prophet, wrote: Prophecy was fulfilled in the first and second angels' messages. They were given at the right time and accomplished the work which God designed to accomplish by them. MESSAGE TWO 2. The second angel's message is a call for Christians attending non-Adventist churches to leave those churches and join the one true remnant church--the Seventh-day Adventists. As Mrs. White noted above, SDAs believed this prophecy was fulfilled in 1844 when some Christians left their churches to unite with the Millerite movement: As the churches refused to receive the first angel's message, they rejected the light from heaven and fell from the favor of God. They trusted to their own strength, and by opposing the first message placed themselves where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, accepted the message, "Babylon is fallen," and left the churches. When the churches spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second, proclaiming, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Revelation 14:8. This message was understood by Adventists to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the first message. The proclamation, "Babylon is fallen," was given in the summer of 1844, and as the result, about fifty thousand withdrew from these churches. God has rejected the church that I attend. I will be destroyed. Scary, eh? THIRD MESSAGE 3. The third angel's message is a warning against receiving the Mark of the Beast, which is said to be worship on Sunday. According to the SDA end-time scenario, the last great battle between good and evil will be fought over the day of worship. Those who keep the Seventh-day Sabbath will receive the Seal of God, while those who keep Sunday receive the Mark of the Beast. According to SDA teachings, all the world will unite under the leadership of Satan to impose Sunday laws upon Seventh-day Adventists. As this frightening scenario unfolds, eventually Sunday laws will be passed requiring a death sentence for anyone who refuses to worship on Sunday. Ellen White explains: As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. ...a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts. After this death decree has been passed by the evil Catholics and wicked Protestants, Jesus will return to save the holy Seventh-day Adventists. Then, He will execute the judgment described in Revelation 14:10-11 by sending fire to destroy all Sunday-keeping Christians. God is going to send fire to destroy everyone who worships on Sunday. Ellen White, The Great Controversy (1911), pp. 615-616. nonsda.org/study1.shtml
James 2:10 Have you kept the whole law perfectly? God requires perfection to get into heaven. You need the righteousness of God. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect. God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2 A Bible based church would never say that God needs to do an Investigative Judgment to determine those who are saved. The true and living God of the Bible is omniscient. God knew those who would be born before He even created the world. Ephesians 1:4 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love 5 He predestined us to adoption as sons and daughters through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
Out of the over 35,000 Christian denominations only one was created and sanctified by God and that is the Catholic Church. You need to study the apostolic fathers or any of the church father to know this and what true church is. All others are heretics. Study St Ignatius of Antioch who was on of the Apostolic fathers where the first documented use in calling Gods one true church Catholic. This was even before the Bible was made, which was by the Catholic’s
James 2:14-26 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...
We celebrate The Lord’s Supper and remember His sacrifice. Please don’t refer to our ministers as self-proclaimed false pastors. Mt pastors have been intelligent, educated men who lead their congregations thoughtfully with care and love in the word of God.
Jesus said this is my body which will be given up for you , Jesus did give himself up for us so the body he represents in John 6:.. is his body, haven’t you seen the Eucharist miracle in the world?
No one in his catholic community was able to answer his questions based on his testimony, that's the reason he changed religion. I am catholic and also had/have questions, had those questions answered by so many priests/brothers and sisters. I am a roman Catholic and will remain standing and die roman Catholic. Likewise, I have read the bible, yes we read it, and have felt the Holy Spirit have gone to retreats will never say by the word of a person that just doesn't know. I have felt his love in the roman Catholic Church and will remain by his word by heart and practice.
He didnt change religions, he got out of religions. If you expect mary to save you when you die, you better try something else. mary has let her church become a habitation of devils, homosexual priests and lesbian nuns, and Mary hasnt done one thing to change it.
*"Mike and Jane - if you want to Witness to Catholics, you need to:* - Show who in the first 1,500 years of Christianity interpreted scripture as you do, that the bread and wine in the bread of life discourse are symbolic or figurative only. - Explain how could Christendom have error'd so fast, so universally on this point? - Explain why should one follow the fallible gospel of Mike and not all of Christendom for those first 1,000 plus years? - Show who in those first 1,000+ years interpreted scripture as you do? Citations only please on every topic that you disagree with the Catholic Church. - Explain why one should not trust our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who said the Church is the Pillar of Truth, that the Church is the Bulwark of Truth, and that the Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known? - Explain how Jesus was undependable and that he lied when he said that he would lead his church to ALL truth? - Do you feel Jesus is not powerful enough nor faithful enough to mean what he said? - Admit that you are fallible - Admit that since you are fallible, you could be in error with your personal and fallible interpretation of scripture, and the Catholic Church right. - Explain how it is that you trust that your New Testament canon is right, when it was decided 100% by the 4th c Catholic Church, Catholic Bishops who would disagree with your interpretation of scripture repeatedly? - Explain how it is that you believe your Old Testament is right, when those 4th c Bishops said it was 46 writings? - How is is that you trust them to get the New Testament right, yet they error'd on the Old Testament - and they ALL celebrated the Mass which you reject? (note, there were no protestant churches at the time) So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; 54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him
@@grantearley4472 I have no reason nor interest in reading his institutes. Calvin, a catholic lawyer, had no authority whatsoever to say that the Church established by Jesus Christ errored and didn't even know it, A heretic, he made Jesus out to be undependable and a liar. Christ is the head of his Church (Col 1: 18) Christ''s Church is the pillar of truth (1 Tim 3: 15) Christ's Church is the bulwark of truth. (1 Tim 3: 15) Christ's Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known. (Eph 3: 10) *Christ PROMISED to lead it to ALL Truth.* (Jn 16: 13) Christ PROMISED that he would NEVER leave it. (Mt 28: 20) Christ PROMISED that the gates of hell would not prevail (it will not teach doctrinal error) ; (Mt 16: 18) You can try answering the questions posed in my first post, directed to the fallible Church of Gendron.
@@TruthHasSpoken I won’t even get into Luther. Well done. Thank you. I have three priests in my extended family (fourth, nearly - 7 years in seminary but did not continue); and I am always sucked in by my temper. I just find it fascinating, the voracious hatred, anything that came before Protestantism. The Catholic Church is not perfect, we’ve made plenty of mistakes God knows, but it’s like they don’t know anything. Mary is just a woman, you can’t pray to the dead, they can’t pray for you - same arguments, over and over again. And then Calvin becomes a God and Martin Luther becomes a God and John Wesley, becomes a God; and they have their God like pastors and prosperity gospel pastors. I don’t know, I don’t say any one way is the one way but when I look around I just see how much we have, and what they don’t know.
@@eireannemerald1382What you are describing is the fruit of sola scriptura, which was, is, and shall ever be, doctrinal chaos and confusion. Indeed, the Church is full of Sinners. Some - relatively few - have sinned greatly. Yet, despite all the sinful Popes, some too who have sinned greatly, not one ever changed doctrine. This is the promise of Jesus, to lead his Church to ALL (doctrine) Truth and that the gates of hell would not prevail. He protects it from teaching what is false as true. "anything that came before Protestantism." This would include the canon of scripture, some 1,100 years before Father Luther and the other deformers. The Catholic Church, decided, declared, the New Testament to have 27 writings, no more, no less, out of 300+ early Christian writings - and the same Church at the same time declared the Old Testament to have 46 writings. The men doing this were all Bishops, all priests as you have in your family. They ALL believed through their words of consecration that the bread and wine transformed in the resurrected Christ, a means for receiving his grace. Protestants, whenever and if they receive the Lords Supper, typically grape juice and bread, receive just that, nothing more. A great reason to be Catholic ... to follow Jesus, to believe him: THIS IS MY BODY. " I am always sucked in by my temper." Have to see protestants, most, as what they are, fed by error in their ignorance. The best cure for protestantism is education. The internet is a great means for doing so. It's always interesting how the more educated protestants become Catholic - and the least educated Catholics (those not attending of weekly mass) become protestant. "what they don’t know" For many protestants, worship consists of a few songs, a few prayers, and a longer sermon. This is not worship. Joe Heschmeyer has a terrific video here on the subject of what is worship, and not: th-cam.com/video/lg4S1VYac-Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=R-kFzltQIPRU11b_
I was raised a JW, accepted Jesus Christ as Lord, and became a redeemed child of God. Much of what he says here resonates, as there are many similarities between Watchtower and the Catholic Church. his testimony motivates me to do more to reach the witnesses.
I am sorry, but that is absurd. Watchtower is a recently-established, insane cult. The Catholic Church contained 100% of Christians for 1500 years. The idea that they are the same is very very silly, with all due respect. Please research what the Catholic Church actually teaches before making false comparisons.
I was also raised as a Catholic but I always wanted to have a personal relationship with my maker. While in a good Catholic girls school my thirst led me to questioning the believes and certain unbibiliical rituals practiced by the Catholics. In 1991 I gave my life to Christ and I am have hope for eternal joy in Christ Jesus. Amen.
The last super is it biblical? Catholics don't use the term "unbiblical". That's protestant speak. Luther ripped 7 book out of the Jesus bible but that's biblical I guess? Jesus never spoke ill of the 7 books present in his bible but it was ok for Luther the trash talker to rip them out 1500 years after Jesus. That's real biblical of you.
Die hard Catholics (and their culture and history) are among the very hardest to convert to Christianity. I have only known only a handful who are born again, read the Bible and know scripture, and are sincere and love Jesus. Most hold Mary as Co-Redemptress with Jesus.
@savedbygrace8337 its interesting, people call the catholic church "man made" but if you look at the history of ALL churches you will see that a man founded each church. The church you are at split from another church who also split from another before it. ALL EXCEPT ONE: His holy catholic church. His church did not split from any other church. Jesus started one church. Mat 16 18. The catholic church is the original church. Catholics are the early Christians. The remains of the apostles are in catholic churches ⛪️ Really, truly pray and think about that
@@DUZCO10 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” NOT MARY,JESUS! Isaiah 2:8 “Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:” NOT STATUES JESUS Matthew 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” NOT ROSARYS .
@@DUZCO10 Catholicism say that Mary was immaculately conceived, Born without sin,could you give me a Bible verse that I can verify that with? Something as earth shattering as that, For the first time in human history even Predating the birth of JESUS Someone was born without sin and there is no mention of it ? Even in the catholic bible? Enlighten me if you will Book ,chapter,and verse please! ,
Costi/Mike - how do you explain the thinking of those Protestants that go back to the Roman church - the doctrine of purgatory should be enough in itself to halt any such action but there’s web sites that highlight the rush back - even pastors - it just amazes me that people could be so stupid - imagine going back to worship Mary, - any explanation please
That’s one of the biggest misconceptions.. that Catholics worship Mary, big difference between worship and honor… right up there with” praying to the dead”. Work and pray to seek understanding before condemning.
Protestants will gloss right past Josua laying down before the Ark of the Covenant and praying to God but they will always have a problem with a Catholic kneeling in front of a Crucifix in Church. But that's the undiscussed error. Protestants generally know very little of the Bible and only focus on the few verses that fit into the man-made doctrine. Catholicism has ALL of the Bible since the Catholic Church put the Bible together. Add that to Protestants being lied to by other Protestants about what the Church actually teaches and they are the lost sheep scattered into thousands of little gatherings.
@basil5641 Catholics seek her help as a translator to God to hear their prayers. The Bible says Jesus is the only way. No one goes to the Father but through Him. No one should pray to Saints, we can honor they're life, sure, but all who call upon the name of the Lord become saints. We accept the will of God for our life, just as Mary and Abraham and Isaac did. We have the Bible to read and study and give example of the hardships to come, as believers, as examples and strength but not to pray to.
Mama Mary is the best intercessor between me & Jesus… i dun worship her i adore her coz she is the Mother of Jesus…a mother’s prayer is powerful one, what more if it is from our heavenly mama. mama mary intercede our prayers to her Son, she brought us closer & closer to her Son, she initiated Jesus first miracle in the wedding in Cana, even Jesus say it not His time yet, but Jesus did the miracle anyways, why? because Mama Mary ask Him too, His mother… I venerate her coz she is the queen of heaven …. the best bridge to Jesus, coz i know Jesus will not turn His mama like in Cana …. but i do not depend on just Mama mary…. i do pray direct to Jesus too.. its just that sometime & most of the time I do need my heavenly mama to help to pray for me to…. BUT NO I DO NOT WORSHIP MAMA MARY….
the video he shared to disciple..where can i get it pls? 🙏 im a former catholic too and felt so deceived ..praise God for saving a wretched like me..and for unveiling my eyes🎉❤
The universal church started by Christ and passed on by the Apostles .Didn't start with the Calvinist Church Mike prescribes to. Your deception is of your own making.
@@jgood6088 u dont know my story.. my personal encounter with Jesus.. how He showed Himself to me, literally leading me out fromH a Catholic church i used to go to..u probly wont believe it either because ur heart is hardened..He was the one who led me to His church.. He opened my eyes to the Truth
@@jgood6088so where is the proof that catholic is the universal church? beast evidence is written.. Nowhere in the Bible that Jesus or anyone said that
Have you ever listened to the conversion story of a protestant pastor who became Catholic? They are so different! Instead of misinterpreting teachings and straw-manning arguments (like Mr. Gendron here), they clearly explain what the opposing side believes and then offer strong, charitable, and Scriptural arguments for their conversion. Just look at the stories of Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. Michael Bales, or Dr. John Bergsma for example. I'm praying for your Mike! You never really knew your Faith. Come back home!
What I'd like to hear is how y'all justify the evils ofvthe RCC that is defended. Just the basic history of the greed for power & keep the Roman empire that fell. The compromises during Constantine mingling pagan doctrine & rituals because pagans wanted to adopt Christianity like Constantine, the long list of pope's that committed such sexual immorality atrocities, persecutions, tortures, murders, selling of indulgences, keeping scripture from the people forbidding it & punishing those who had & read it, the inquisitions and the pedifilia that gets covered up. How can one attribute this physical church to Jesus?
These comment are amazing, I can't believe the amount of support for the Catholic Church. Is there some sort of Catholic revival on the horizon. Remember wonders will be made reality when we all walk in Christ in the same step and beat. Use the church to organise it a gift from God and don't forget to fed her.
There was a bishop in charge of a seminary downtown Milan. He started receiving complaints from young women that his students were making cat calls at them. So he brought them all together to give them a stern talking to. Half way thru the talk he started balling like a baby. He later became a saint. St Pius X
Again Mike, yes you have to church every Sabbath which means you have to go every week, going to church every week falls under the commandment of you shall keep the Sabbath holy
@@jlewis8145 i said the Sabbath not Sunday, but if I had to get technical Saturday is the Sabbath and Sunday is the Lords day celebrating our saviors resurrection
You forgot the rest of the verse… “not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,” - 1 Peter 3:21
@@hollybooth6946 Thank you. You've made my point for me. The Catholic Church holds that the Bible is the only God-breathed source of authority, and that the whole of the Church is under the authority of the Word of God. I'm not sure if all Protestant traditions hold that to be doctrinal, because I have only encountered a limited number of Protestant movements. But I respect how most Protestants see the Bible as profoundly authoritative. I belonged to a Christian and Missionary Alliance parish, an Evangelical Bible group in the past, about 15 years ago. We would study the Bible in small groups and we were led by two things: Protestant tradition and radical subjectivity -- or, you could say, opinion. If we disagreed about the meaning of an important passage and its doctrinal implications, there was no authority to appeal to, except, perhaps, our pastor -- but he, himself, would not have identified as a binding authority on the conscience. If we were confused about the interpretation of the Bible, we could only turn to the Bible to interpret the confusion. This rarely worked. As far as obvious matters, this was fine. We all believed that Jesus was the true Messiah, that he taught, worked miracles, died for our sins and rose again in glory. But in terms of areas in dispute, both historical and contemporary, it was every man or woman for themselves. In practice, the more educated, the more forceful, the more emotional or the more determined exegesis of Scripture won out in the end, and we submitted and left it there. But there was a chaos, a disorder about this that I sensed was not from God. Being Christians, being human, we hungered for Truth. And for not just any Christ, but the True Christ. We did not realize that we were depending on the authority of Church Councils, Papal declarations, the Church Fathers and the Body of Christ over centuries, carrying on Sacred Tradition, which is the living and authentic and authoritative reading of Scripture. So much we took for granted. Finally, I had to accept the source of authority, and that it was necessary to have it, to teach and believe what we do as a Church. Because Scripture is transparent, perspicuous in many ways, but in many ways it is not. Without a teacher to step in and say: this is truth, once and for all, so many essential matters would not have been defined and heresies like the Nestorians, Marcionites or Pelagians would have controlled the Church, at various moments in history. If you've made this far, I will challenge you with a question: In the 5 centuries of the Church, can you name one historical figure, one saint, one historian that did not teach that baptism is regenerative, and in that crucial sense it saves?
@@PaxMundi118 If I was baptized secretly while I was an infant and never knew I was baptized, How would I know as an adult I am saved? If your a Roman Catholic, you couldn’t know, you would have to assume you we’re never baptized. But if you were a Christian, you would know if you repented and put all your trust in Christ for salvation.
@@Wgaither1 I can answer your question, but you are deflecting all the points I made and the two straightforward questions I asked by asking a separate question. How about you engage with what I said, or at least engage with one of the two questions (either one, but they do connect) before I give you a response?
Nevermind, here you go: the answer is fairly simple: if you believe in Christ and do not know you are baptized, get baptized ASAP. If you have received a legitimate Trinitarian baptism, and you change church traditions, do not get re-baptized, it is offensive.
Idk how he can say he heard very little of the Bible during his time as a Catholic. Each mass covers a part of the Old and New Testament along with responsorial Pslams and the Eucharist and Communion which also contains scripture. Also, the Eucharist is done in remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice. It’s not repeated every mass because His original sacrifice was not enough but in remembrance of it. It puts us in the shoes of the apostles. Even Jesus said to do it in remembrance of Him. Repetition helps us remember.
this is the learn new protestants, how the Catholics don’t run the Bible and have nothing to do with the Bible blah blah blah blah, blah blah. It’s sort of like learning the basics of anything and calling yourself a master
@@johnsteila6049 That's an incredibly uncharitable way of looking at it, but I get it, Gendron's attacks on Catholicism must feel as personal to devout Catholics as someone saying bad things about one's own family, since I've heard that for devout Catholics the church feels like a family. Call him a heretic if you want but you don't know his heart, and I feel he's sincere even if he might be wrong, only God knows whether he's either or both, and when you judge him like this you sound just as accusatory to Protestants as you must feel he is towards Catholics. How is Gendron supposed to be more ecumenical if he really believes Catholics are deceived? It's painful for me too when some ultra-conservative Catholics say Protestants are going to hell, but if they don't attack the character of Protestants, I'd rather they share what they truly believe than hide it to be conciliatory, as painful as it might be. Isn't it fair for this to go both ways?
Doesn't take much courage lying . Mike is a disgruntled Catholic , but hey now he's got a church like countless others claiming their version of Biblical Truth.
@@jgood6088 you need Jesus. Mike's checking God's message by reading his word. If you need other books for your religion, then you are not following the Word of God. Praying for you. 🙏
We not only read the Gospel we accept everything the Gospel proclaims especially the Sacrament of the Body, blood , soul and divinity of Jesus found only in the Catholic Church as the eucharist , the bread of life.
@@MsMelvindoo "Mike's checking God's message by reading his word." So you're implying "upon this rock ( Mike ) I will build my Church"? Mike is nothing more than a disgruntled un -informed former Catholic , by the way from a devout Catholic Family that rejects Mikes bigoted propaganda. If any persons need prayers it's not only Mike but all ill informed Christians understanding the Fullness of the Christian faith only found in the Catholic Church . The same Church that protected and passed on for Centuries the Word , including but not limited to the New Testament books no post Reformation Christian ever had a say in what those Books were or were not considered Inspired. Thats just Christian history and the only Church at the time was the Catholic Church. You won't find non-denominational, Lutherans , Southern or those countless other Baptist and the list go on snd on.
I'm converting in the opposite direction and feel he's been deceived by strawman arguments. Now I see what is meant by the phrase: strong protestants become catholic, weak catholics become protestant.
Its very eye opening that only catholics are so concerned with denominations. Its clear satan has a strong influence and has planted the sin of Pride deep in their hearts believing their own traditions and men to be superior to the word of God. Only Catholics get so offended and become so full of vile hatred at the though of others being protestant rather than catholic. Their sin is deep rooted and blinds them to the truth of God,.
All of them, because none of them disagree on the cause of salvation, which is faith alone by the grace of God. If any one disagrees on this point, they are not Protestant
I've always been Protestant. I recently researched the apocripha. Except for one briefly mentioned Catholic issue, I found no Catholic teachings in the apocripha. It's mostly history. Although it's not God-inspired, I found a few legitimate issues to discuss. Catholics value the apocripha, that's why they're included in their Bibles. But in the book of Burach chapter 6, Jeremiah CONDEMNS bowing to statues; verses 24, "There is no spirit in them"; 28, "They are not Gods, do not fear them"; 41, Jeremiah says people who do that "have no sense"; 49, "statues can not save themselves from wars nor disasters". -- One issue that's answered for me is, Moses mentioned the use of a divorce certificate, but a marriage certificate is not mentioned in the standard 66 books; but it IS mentioned in Tobit 7: (13).
Mike, you're a good man, and you did good work in the Catholic Church. Yet, your understanding of what priests were telling you and what the Catholic Church is telling you about faith, salvation, and the Bible is unfortunately a misunderstanding. Your uncle the priest is correct: Have you read James 2:17 - 26? Faith is shown by works. Without works, our faith is dead. That is what the Catholic Church teaches.
This is what Christianity teaches too. Not that our works save us, but that w/ our faith, this will result in good works, out of love and gratefulness to God for our redemption. The problem is w/ all the beliefs in needing to work off temporal sin. You ask for forgiveness, and it is apparently granted, but then you must do penance. Even then there is a residue and buildup of temporal sin, so that you have to spend time suffering to burn off your sin in purgatory. This nullifies Christ's atonement. I know Catholics don't believe in a limited atonement like Calvinists, but that might as well be a limited atonement.
Faith is shown by works, but works are not required in order to have faith. Otherwise, works would precede faith. Where you catholics get things wrong is in your chronology of events. It goes faith -> works, not the other way around. You put the cart before the horse. We know that faith is the cause of salvation because the thief on the cross, having no good works, but having faith, was saved. Countless verses in the Bible describe salvation apart from works, yet you all wave a single misinterpreted verse in James like a triumphant flag. The passage in James is supposed to show the utility of faith in serving those around you and the fact that works evidence your faith, as you’ve said. But you don’t hear your own words. Works evidence salvation. They do not cause it
@TheChadPad don't confuse yourself if you don't have good deeds (works) can that faith save you? Regardless of the order in which you want it in the end you need good works because guess what that's how all of us are going to be judged revelation 20:13...
Praying = good work Reading the Bible = good work Sharing the Gospel = good work Getting baptized = good work A good work is an act of faith, it is the act of being faithful. One does not precede the other, they are not opposed or even separated. To believe is a part of faith but you must also proclaim Jesus as your savior, repent and obey His commandments to the best of your abilities. The gospel urges us to try, because real faith urges us to walk in good works. Faith is partly defined by works. They are interconnected as the heart is a necessary vital organ as part of your body. Faith without works is dead. Don't be blinded by a hardened heart. Read the Bible. If you love Jesus, the Truth matters.
I know he’s ignorant because he keeps say Roman Catholic It’s actually Catholic, there’s Byzantine Catholic Melkite Catholic 26 rites of the Catholic Church -The Catholic Church is the organization that decides what books made up the New Testament. Why would you or this man follow the the Mew Testament knowing it came from the Catholic Church you shall enter the kingdom of heaven.” Lastly NOWHERE in the Catholic Church is there a doctrine that days you good works must out do your bad works to make it to heaven Jesus said. “Amen amen I say to you unless you eat and drink of my 🎉body and blood
I was also a catholic and I asked God for so many months for guidance and truth and abiding in His word He literally started responding my questions. From why we shouldn’t pray to anybody else except through Jesus, about the real gospel, about following tradition vs. following Him. (Mark 7). Also about idolatry, which isn’t exclusive to Catholicism because I believe all churches could have idols. The difference is that it is so much more difficult to abandon the idols in Catholicism because people don’t think they’re idols in any way, they tend to twist verses without knowing Scripture and repeat what others told them without true conviction and guidance from the Hoky Spirit. John 16:13-15
What is your definition of an idol? An idol is a false god. The saints in Catholics are not idols because they are not false gods. The saints are people whose souls are now in heaven. Many of them are martyrs for the sake of Jesus.
The Catholic Church gets the best and brightest that Protestantism has ever produced: Cardinal John Henry Newman G.K. Chesterton Cardinal Avery Dulles Fr. Richard John Neuhaus Dr. Peter Kreeft Dietrich Von Hildebrand Dr. Taylor Marshall Thomas Merton (Celebrated Trappist Monk) Bishop John Lipscomb Bishop Jeffrey Stevenson Steve Ray Dr. Robert Sungenis Ulf Ekman (Swedish Founder of Word of Faith Evangelical Society) Dr. Scott Hahn (Valedictorian Gordon Conwell Seminary) Bishop Richard Pain (Diocese of Monmouth) Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali Deacon Alex Jones Mark Galli (Editor of Christianity Today and former pastor)
Let's say--as a hypothetical--that the Vatican (with the Pope), the college of cardinals, archbishops, bishops, and parish priests suddenly vanished. Would there still be a Catholic Church? To answer "yes" would be to imply that the aforementioned are essentially unnecessary. And you would be left as simply a follower of Jesus Christ, part of a local body of faithful believers, lead by mature elders and teachers, who know the Scriptures and have been regenerated by the Spirit.
@@mchristr You don't understand the Catholic Church. I don't even understand it as the Church teaches: it is a bride, a mystery, salvation, a building, a lover, an Ark, a light to the nations, etc., Catholic ecclesiology is one of the most difficult theological subjects to get your mind around.
@@WhiteBraveheart1 I appreciate your response. My critique is not with the mystical Church (rationality ultimately fails when describing transcendent things) but rather with how the Church (Church militant if you will) exists as a practical entity. I realize that Roman Catholics and non-Catholics often talk past each other. But that is because the very bedrock of salvation is at stake. A Catholic would say that there is no salvation apart from the Church, while a non-Catholic would say that it is the Gospel, illuminated by the Holy Spirit, that saves. I'm fine with that tension.
@@mchristr The Church would still exist and the See of Peter would be in an interregnum period. Same as when a Pope dies. And whatever and by whatever means a bishop who ends up being the bishop of Rome would be the Pope. Cardinals and conclaves are simply the current means for the new Pope to emerge. If the Pope wanted to, he could appoint his successor.
@@mchristr Your hypothetical is Biblically impossible. But nice try. And because of that, those so called non-hypothetical left over body of faithful believers, Anyone can say they have been regenerated by the Spirit and start their own Church . Sorry your hypothetical doesn't work.
I am surprised how ignorant he is of the catholic faith, The catholic church teaches we are saved by grace alone not by works, but he seems so sincere.
Lifetime evangelical here converting to Catholicism. Feels like coming home and I’m thankful. God is after the heart, but when it comes to church, the Catholic Church has MASSIVE claim on authority… Once I started to be fair to Catholicism and put aside my bias, all I saw was beauty and the grace of God.
@@theodorebe Protestant position is 30,000 different positions. They have no unity. Catholics have 1 pope. Catholics have 2000yrs of continuous history.
never rejected the faith I needed conversion. I stumbled upon a book by Francis DeSales "THE CATHOLIC Controversy" HE Evangelized 72000 FORMER Catholics during the reformation times. The tracts are 3 and 4 pages long. I encourage any Christian to read this. It really educated me on points of dogma disputed by Luther and the rest. All 72000 returned to the Church. This is amazing still.😊
Faith without works is dead! Works are important. Being good means we are following the Ten Commandments! Following the 10 commandments mean we are trying to be good! The opposite is being bad. Not following the 10 commandments and being bad. Thank God we have confession where the Lord forgives sins. We also have the Eucharist which is the BODY, BLOOD, SOUL, AND DIVINITY OF JESUS. CHRIST. Jesus said unless you eat my body and drink my blood you shall not have everlasting life. I suggest you read about the early fathers-St. Augustine and Aquinas! I have witnessed many Protestant pastors that joined the Catholic faith after reading about the church fathers. You definitely need to read about the church fathers! You are definitely now deceived! The Eucharist is necessary for salvation!
I was a devout Romanist all my life and got saved at the age of 19 after the reading the Gospel of John. Romanism and Biblical Christianity couldn't be any further from one another.
Your comment is an evidence of you being poorly catechized. The Catholic Church is NOT only roman but there are also many rites such as byzantine, syrian, maronite and latin/roman but all of these rites. Doing more research, studying the cathecism, the early church fathers(they've written how the earliest christians worship) and rereading the bible will help you immensely learn more and better understand about the teachings of the Catholic Church.
"after the reading the Gospel of John" And you reject God's Written Word below, based on the fallible teachings of 16th c men: 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us *his flesh* to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you *eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood,* you have no life in you; 54 he who eats *my flesh* and drinks *my blood* has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For *my flesh* is food indeed, and *my blood* is drink indeed. 56 He who eats *my flesh* and drinks *my blood* abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who *eats me* will live because of me. When the evangelical denomination celebrates the Lord's Supper, if and when it does, it usually has grape juice and bread. That's ALL it ever is, nothing more. When one realizes how novel of a teaching this is, that it can be traced to a 16th Catholic lawyer named Calvin, the intellect can begin to comprehend the error. "got saved at the age of 19 " You got saved scripturally when your Catholic parents baptized you, receiving the indwelling of God within you and sanctifying grace, lost in the sin of Adam.
Amen. After being with rome in years past I'm blessed to be a saved, born again Christian now. God bless you all wherever you are in your walk with the Lord.
You were Born Again scripturally when you were baptized. My writeup below. *The Old Testament Prefigures a greater New Testament reality: The Waters of Baptism are Salvific.* - Noah and his family were saved by the water and cleansed humanity of sin, the Ark representing the Church. - The Israelites were saved by water from Pharaoh’s army crossing the sea - The Israelites were again saved by water when Moses struck the Rock *God foretells his Spirit would someday reside not in Jerusalem’s temple built by man but within mankind himself:* _25 I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. 26 A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will take out of your flesh the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances (Ez 36)._ *St John the Baptist says that Jesus would come baptizing with the Holy Spirit:* _“I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry; he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire_ (Mat 3:11). _I myself did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit’_ (Jn 1:33). *St Paul speaks to the New Testament fulfillment, through Baptism, our body being the temple of God’s Spirit.* _Do you not know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit within you, which you have from God (1 Cor 6:19)?_ *We receive the Holy Spirit through baptism, the external washing by water signifying (a sign, a symbol, but not a sign or symbol only) of an interior spiritual change within us.* *Born Anew (Again) - through baptism, we are “born again” scripturally* _3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicode′mus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit [baptism], he cannot enter the kingdom of God (Jn 3: 3,5)._ *Regenerated and Justified - All Sacraments are means of receiving his Grace (we are saved by Grace)* _when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit, 6 which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life (Titus 3: 4-7)._ *Sanctified - the exterior sign of water signifies the interior spiritual change through baptism.* _11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God (1 Cor 6: 11)._ *Baptism Restores Sanctifying Grace and Cleanses Us of ALL Personal Sins* _And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name (Acts 22: 16).”_ *Baptism Saves Us - by having the Spirit of God in us; God can’t be any more explicit* - _“Truly, truly, unless one is born of water and the Spirit [baptism], he cannot enter the kingdom of God (Jn 3: 5).”_ - _Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Pet 3: 21)._ - _He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned_ (Mk 16: 16; believing / having faith means to follow all that Christ commanded. He commanded that Christians be baptized as a means of receiving his grace) *Note, I can cite Christian men for this whole time period who taught exactly what scripture teaches. Examples below.* “Moreover, the things proceeding from the waters were blessed by God, that this also might be a sign of men’s being destined to receive repentance and remission of sins, through the water and laver of regeneration,-as many as come to the truth, and are born again, and receive blessing from God.” Theopilus of Antioch, To Autolycus, 2: 16 (A.D. 181). *Worth repeating: How is does one receive repentance and remission of sins .... through the water and spirit (the laver or regeneration). BAPTISM.* “[W]hen they come to us and to the Church which is one, ought to be baptized, for the reason that it is a small matter to ‘lay hands on them that they may receive the Holy Ghost,’ unless they receive also the baptism of the Church. For then finally can they be fully sanctified, and be the sons of God, if they be born of each sacrament; since it is written, ‘Except a man be born again of water, and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’…[O]nly baptism of the holy Church, by divine regeneration, for the kingdom of God, may be born of both sacraments, because it is written, ‘Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.'” Cyprian, To Stephen, 71: 72 (A.D. 253). “We are circumcised not with a fleshly circumcision but with the circumcision of Christ, that is, we are born again into a new man; for, being buried with Him in His baptism, we must die to the old man, because the regeneration of baptism has the force of resurrection.” Hilary of Poitiers, Trinity, 9: 9 (A.D. 359). “This then is what it is to be born again of water and of the Spirit, the being made dead being effected in the water, while our life is wrought in us through the Spirit. In three immersions, then, and with three invocations, the great mystery of baptism is performed, to the end that the type of death may be fully figured, and that by the tradition of the divine knowledge the baptized may have their souls enlightened. It follows that if there is any grace in the water, it is not of the nature of the water, but of the presence of the Spirit.” Basil, On the Spirit, 15: 35 (A.D. 375). Where are all those early Christians preaching the fallible Church of Gendron?
@@luissalazar6960 They didn’t read anything. They didn’t ask questions. They didn’t go on retreat or speak with a priest before making their decison to leave the Chirch Our Lady, the Eucharist and the Saints. Instead, they listened to the screaming-Jesus preacher or some other denomination who convinced them that the Holy Eucharist is false and has no meaning; that Our Lady is just a woman who gave birth to Jesus but has no role in Heaven or i redemption of a kind; and that the catholic church is false and is related to paganism. Sad.
Every time I heard Mike Gendron it's the same story; I was a Catholic for 35 years... or was it 37 years? I had a big, dusty Bible that sat on my coffee table, and I never read it because some priests, allegedly, told me I was too stupid to understand it. However, I finally read it, and without any guidance reached my own conclusion about the scriptures like the 30,000 other denominations around the world. This dude could have been raised a Baptist, Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Mennonite, Lutheran, Anglican, Unitarian, etc... and had the exact same experience.
*📜 John.17:* 17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. *📜 Jeremiah.7:* 3This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Reform your ways and your actions, and I will let you live in this place. 4Do not trust in deceptive words and say, “This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord!” ...17Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? 18The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger. 19But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? *📜 Matthew.7:* 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. *📜 Ecclesiastes.1:* 8All things are wearisome, more than one can say. The eye never has enough of seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing. 9What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. 10Is there anything of which one can say, “Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. *📜 1Corinthians.10:* 11These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come. 12So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall! 13No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. 14Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry. *📜 Mark.13:* 23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
*📜 1Corinthians.2:* 1And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power. *📜 John.16:* 13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. 15All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.” *📜 1Peter.4:* 11If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.
@@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx None of your quotes have anything to do with either faith alone, and scripture alone. In fact, the ONLY time in ALL of scripture that the words faith and alone are side by side, scripture says: _24 You see that a man is justified by works [of love, not the Old Testament law] and not by faith alone._ (Ja 2) When one is JUSTIFIED, made right with God, one is 100% savd.
@@TruthHasSpoken 📜 1Corinthians.2:1And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.
@@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx I agree with everything you quoted, yet ... "None of your quotes have anything to do with either faith alone, and scripture alone."
6:20 For Mike Gendron: The priest told you you shouldn't even try to read the Bible ... if that's the case, I suppose you were involved with some other priest when the Bible was acquired? For all those years, why did you not question why some other priest had approved the acquisition?
He was in bondage of sin. That’s a reason to blame a religion and not take ownership of your actions. So he had a Bible in his own home that he decided on his own not to pick up but he picked up the Protestant version of the Catholic bible. A rocket scientist….hmmm….no wonder we haven’t gone to the moon.
I felt sorry for this poor Mike. He left the true church and joined the protestant group - a church with incomplete syllabus. They pick the items which are convenient for them and left out so many facts about Christ teachings and the apostles.
There are a lot of priests that don't read the Bible.. it's the truth. There was even a time in history that the Catholic church discouraged the people from reading their bibles: "The Church actually discouraged the populace from reading the Bible on their own -- a policy that intensified through the Middle Ages and later, with the addition of a prohibition forbidding translation of the Bible into native languages." Check Catholic history.
No offense to Mike, but a quick google search tells you this, “Catholic soteriology (salvation theology) is rooted in apostolic Tradition and Scripture and says that it is only by God's grace-completely unmerited by works-that one is saved. The Catholic Church teaches that it's God's grace from beginning to end which justifies, sanctifies, and saves us.” … Catholics don’t believe, as Mike thinks, you are saved by works. Honestly, I’m still searching for a conversion story of somebody who actually understood their Catholic faith (factually speaking) and then converted… Mike is simply not one of those people.
For those of you who are considering leaving the Catholic Church or who may already have left, I encourage you to do a quick search on videos of all the thousands of Protestant pastors who have converted to the Catholic faith. And then ask yourself why all these leaders (who actually understood what Protestants believed) decided to join the Catholic Church. Disclaimer: The truth is out there (be careful or you may decide to become Catholic as well)!
that sounds like something the devil would say… Jesus said I am the TRUTH. And you just put your religion above him… So who is really the one living a lie bill..
He’s not lost. He is still a Christian which is what matters. Catholic or Protestant we should all shut up about who’s right and focus on showing the world our love which God has given us.
He doesn't really fully understand the Catholic teaching I'd say. We don't re-sacrifice Jesus. We don't believe that we can outweigh our sins with good deeds. No tradition oposes scripture.
@@RS54321 The Bible is clear on the matter. It is *THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THEIR FAITH IN JESUS* . Therefore be careful to keep the commandments of God, including Sabbath, and keep your faith in Jesus. Those who teach you not to keep God's commandments lead you astray. Those who tell you not to keep faith in Jesus lead you astray
@@RS54321 Yeah, plenty of believers don't keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Most do not follow the commandments of God. Like how many believers do you know who hate God's Sabbath but love the catholic lord's day (Sunday) because the popes say so. Many believe but don't keep faith in Jesus (Jews for example). Jesus warned us against lawlessness, iniquity.
Thank you for sharing the truth Mike, i was a Catholic as well and i exchanged my religion for a relationship with Jesus Christ. I learned all these same things reading the Bible. Many things that i was being taught all contradicted the Bible. One of the biggest verses for me was Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the traditions of men, according to the elementary principles of the world rather than according to Christ. I have been born again, i am a new creation in Christ. I have been redeemed and transformed into the image of Christ.
You need to follow up with a good Catholic apologist. Also a good understanding of the Bible and its origin as well. Who was it that discerned that Colossians was the Inspired Word of God? Answer: The Catholic Church. And if you believe the books of the Bible is infallibly a collection of inerrant writings. Who was it that decided on it? You don't have that answer in the Bible. So any authority to put the Bible together has to be an infallible authority given by God to men and you have to have faith in that belief that is not in the Bible itself. So, Colossians 2:8 actually applies to "Bible Alone" Christianity because bible alone is a man-made tradition and a "vain fallacy" of do it yourself that is against what Paul taught.
@@gerry30 Good can, and does,, use people who are not hiis people, to accomplish his will.. Just because they agreed on the canon, in no ways means this church is being Guided by God in the rest of the nonsense they d
@@RS54321 There was only one church in her day. The Roman Catholic Church. 1430ad. There’s only one church now. The Roman Catholic Church. All others are fake. Where does God say this ? Jesus said in Mt 16 “I will build MY CHURCH” church is singular. Jesus said in Mt 18. If your brother won’t listen to the CHURCH, treat him as an outsider. Church is singular. Jesus said in Jn 17. Father let them be one. Singular. Reason also confirms there should be one church.
@@RS54321 Also, what church burned her at the stake? (Yes I know it was the English authorities who did this, but back then Church and state were one, no hiding behind this "it was the secular authorities" B.S., I like it when Catholic apologists own up to the fact that the church burned heretics instead of pretending it didn't happen. They make more opportunities for mutual understanding possible with greater honesty, and I'm very thankful for that).
There is a crisis in the Protestant faith The weakness in the Protestant faith is the lack of confession! This has diluted its power and ability to save the lost. The churches are now full of unrepentant sinners. Saved by grace is no longer understood!
@jamisonharris9869 Exactly. The vale was torn and we have direct access to God. We can confess directly to Him. We do NOT have to go to a priest to confess. Nowhere does scripture say to pray to Mary or who they perceive to be saints. Mary clearly had other children. The rock Jesus built His church on is the fact He is Christ. That is what the gates of hell will.never prevail against. He is the cornerstone. Not Peter.
An aerial view of Our Lady of the Assumption Church after the Aug. 6, 1945, bombing. A small group of priests can be seen standing in the road in front of the church. (photo: Public Domain) Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. So what chance do you have.
Thank you for this bit of history. recently, after the devastating fires in Maui, the news showed the only building left standing was the Catholic Church.
“… devout Catholic…”: Mike was never a devout Catholic. He taught Pelagianism to those students, not Catholic theology. And going to Mass daily isn’t even a requirement of the faith; the requirement is once a week, Sunday worship. Mike portrays the Catholic view as good works outweighing bad, but that isn’t even what we believe. We believe that justification is by grace and nothing which precedes it, faith or works, merits justification; it is freely given in Baptism! Reread Titus 3.5, Mike! And Mary is “another sinless mediator?” What do you mean “another?” The Church does not teach that priests are sinless. You are deceived Mike!
@@laurenmcnichol5311 Yes indeed. Priest acting as mediators between man and God is heresy. Timothy 2:5 NASV - "For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time."
@@kdjones5149 Yes this was one of his poorest recitations of his understanding of Catholic soteriology here, but I've seen numerous other videos with him where he presents the correct soteriology, namely Baptism, Confirmation, the Eucharist for venial sins, Confession for mortal sins, working out one's salvation with fear and trembling, etc... You might be the first Gendron basher I've seen so far that provided specific examples that actually have to do with soteriology (the main thing he's obsessed with, and rightly so), and I agree he was sloppy in this interview for some reason, but watch other videos of him and this is one of the only times he's this sloppy.
We have to understand that there is a hardness of heart with people who criticize the Catholic Church. When we offer explanations, they either melt away or continue to insist that they are right. We just need to keep on praying for them.
Jesus promises ETERNAL LIFE to those who eat His flesh and drink His blood. You’ve walked away from the Eucharist! So sad. You say u read through John 4? READ John 6.
Only in pagan religions do they eat the blood and body of their god. ie. Mithraism I know for sure that my sins have been forgiven. I know that I have eternal life and will live forever with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You should read the Bible and learn the truth.
I am a Catholic and am not questioning my faith but enjoying my faith. Knowing that Jesus is my LORD and Savior is my greatest joy. What you dear brothers are doing is called sheep stealing. And that's a sin. I pray that you will come to know the truth and the truth will set you free. There is no need to evangelize Catholics. If there is a need the CC will do the needful. I sincerely pray and request you to go to India and do the Evangelization that you are talking about. I would be happy to know how you find this place esp with the current political situation there. Your love for Christ and your desire to evangelize and save souls will be greatly appreciated and put to the test. Don't waste your time trying to save Catholics. They are already saved. Save someone who isn't. And I gave you the harvest field... India. It's easy to sit in the western world and talk about Jesus and your faith. Go to the persecuted world and live you faith out there. You will never be the same again. Chances are you might give up on your faith. I pray that never happens. Grace to all who have an undying love for Christ. Stay blessed. God bless you abundantly. Shalom.
'There is no need to evangelize Catholics. If there is a need the CC will do the needful.' You just contradicted yourself. If Catholics need evangelizing due to incorrect beliefs, the last people to do this would be the very church that is teaching these beliefs. It's beyond ridiculous.
@@RS54321 I feel sad for you. Try to understand in what context I made that statement. It's not your fault. It's a problem of being educated but lacking understanding. And my dear friend I will not give you any clarification. The Holy Spirit will guide if you wish to take His counsel on the matter. He can tell more about the Church in the Church and through the Church. Until then stay blessed. The LORD be with your spirit. May the joy of the LORD be your strength. Amen. With love, prayers and best wishes.
@@truthspeaker1558 That's fine if you feel sorry for me. I have gotten counsel from the Holy Spirit, the Bible, and wise counsel on this matter and have understanding, thanks.
As someone from India, this was well stated! There is no need to convert Catholics they are Christians. India is a true challenge to any person trying to evangelize.
I saw the bark of Peter on misty oceans ride listing in the current Abandoned was the bride I peered through shivered timbers where rats had come to dine but pirates stripped her galley and had drunken all her wine Upon her tattered rigging some heroes had been brave They dangled from her halyards till the end of all their days but tattered sails were luffing in the winds that lashed the sea Two thousand years before the mast and all that's left are these? It was a desolation when I beheld the sight I cried ABOMINATION into the black of night and then I lit a candle It's better than to curse and said a prayer for mariners Land lovers are much worse
1 Timothy 2:5 ESV For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Exodus 20:4 ESV “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Acts 4:12 ESV And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Proverbs 30:5-6 ESV Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar. 1 Corinthians 1:10-13 ESV I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul
I don't want to be uncharitable, but it really seems like Mr. Gendron was poorly catechized (he was a pelagian and also believed penance brought absolution), didn't pay attention at Mass (he claimed only a few verses are read when we go through the whole Bible every 3 years), and he has no intellectual honesty (after 30 years of ministry he still has no idea what Catholics truly believe). I still pray that he returns to one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church though
It's a smaller matter, but the Mass doesn't go through the whole bible even over years. There is a alot of scripture they don't cover. It is more select scripture. I have heard ex priests note this too. There is not only one church. There is only one body under Christ, and we are all part of it. God bless, may you stay close to our Lord Jesus Christ.
You are mistaken. The Catholic Church's readings cover the entire Bible in three years -- including daily Mass. The verses include raedings from the Old and New Testaments the Gospels and tje Book of Psalms. Verses are also used when we pray the Alleluia before the Gospel readings. We read more from the Bible at a single Mass than many Protestants do at their services.
@@RS54321 Apologies. My comment is related to your response to Roselynjoseph2743 comment, “I am Catholic …” was: “Why don’t you just say you are Christian.” And my response was, “Why is that your concern.” We are in the Catholic church and we call ourselves Catholics, just as Lutherans call themselves Lutherans, etc.
@@eireannemerald1382 I'm concerned b/c it's extremely odd as someone who professes to follow Christ to continually define oneself, as Catholics do, as a Catholic or part of the CC instead of as a Christian. The focus is on the CC, not Jesus, which is the issue. I don't identify myself by what church I go to...my identity is in Christ.
The problem that protestants have is the same as Mormonism based on the following 3 arguments. (1) Mormons (Latter-Day Saints, or LDS) believe that after the death of the last Apostle, there was a “Great Apostasy.” Priesthood authority ceased, doctrine began to degenerate, and the true Gospel was lost (necessitating its “restoration” by Joseph Smith in the 19th century). (2) The vast majority of protestants reject multiple doctrines that were believed unanimously by ancient Christians, beginning with the very first Church Fathers who were discipled by the Apostles themselves. Specifically, these protestants reject three key doctrines: a. Baptismal regeneration (how we become Christians); b. Apostolic succession (how the Church is governed); and c. The sacrifice of the Eucharist (how Christians worship). (3) Therefore, whether they realize it or not, most protestants believe in a “Great Apostasy” theory of history that is virtually identical with that of the LDS. If all Christians of which we have any record-including the disciples of the Apostles-were unanimously wrong about how we become Christians, how the Church is governed, and how we worship as Christians (the “Three Doctrines”), there is no more fitting description of this massive falling away than a “Great Apostasy.” This necessarily means that creatures (the protestant “reformers,” or the LDS’s “prophet” Joseph Smith) outperformed the Creator, since their “gospels” and “churches” have now in one form or another lasted for centuries, whereas when Jesus originally established them, they fell apart immediately. In the writings of the Church Fathers every time they spoke about heresy and heretics, they were describing Protestantism. Protestantism is all over the place on the different positions. You can’t speak about the Protestant position on something, except perhaps in the form of a negative, like they’re contrary to the Catholic Church, they’re contrary to the Roman Pontiff. But the methods, the means, by which Protestants arrive at their theological conclusions were common in virtually all the heresies and the heretics that the Fathers talk about. The problem that protestants have is the same as Mormonism based on the following 3 arguments. (1) Mormons (Latter-Day Saints, or LDS) believe that after the death of the last Apostle, there was a “Great Apostasy.” Priesthood authority ceased, doctrine began to degenerate, and the true Gospel was lost (necessitating its “restoration” by Joseph Smith in the 19th century). (2) The vast majority of protestants reject multiple doctrines that were believed unanimously by ancient Christians, beginning with the very first Church Fathers who were discipled by the Apostles themselves. Specifically, these protestants reject three key doctrines: a. Baptismal regeneration (how we become Christians); b. Apostolic succession (how the Church is governed); and c. The sacrifice of the Eucharist (how Christians worship). (3) Therefore, whether they realize it or not, most protestants believe in a “Great Apostasy” theory of history that is virtually identical with that of the LDS. If all Christians of which we have any record-including the disciples of the Apostles-were unanimously wrong about how we become Christians, how the Church is governed, and how we worship as Christians (the “Three Doctrines”), there is no more fitting description of this massive falling away than a “Great Apostasy.” This necessarily means that creatures (the protestant “reformers,” or the LDS’s “prophet” Joseph Smith) outperformed the Creator, since their “gospels” and “churches” have now in one form or another lasted for centuries, whereas when Jesus originally established them, they fell apart immediately. In the writings of the Church Fathers every time they spoke about heresy and heretics, they were describing Protestantism. Protestantism is all over the place on the different positions. You can’t speak about the Protestant position on something, except perhaps in the form of a negative, like they’re contrary to the Catholic Church, they’re contrary to the Roman Pontiff. But the methods, the means, by which Protestants arrive at their theological conclusions were common in virtually all the heresies and the heretics that the Fathers talk about.
I think whoever looks at this video should go and have a look at how to be Christian. He really exposes this man’s testimony? Very interesting must watch I think if you are genuinely sincere and seeking the truth, God bless.
Thank God for Sola scriptura and the Reformation. I'm glad I was born in London England and enjoy the King James version of the Bible. The reformation led to the Catholic Church council of Trent because everyone left because of corruption Over time, popes and bishops began selling indulgences as a way of raising money. This practice made it seem that people could buy forgiveness for their sins. Many Catholics were deeply disturbed by the abuse of indulgences. The Church also sold offices, or leadership positions. I would never dishonor the reformers men like John Calvin and Martin Luther by becoming Catholic. Jesus Christ did not come after start a religion but to establish a Kingdom (Kings Domain over a territory) ecclesia Church. We believe in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ saved by faith alone not works lest any man should boast. Jesus Christ is Lord not Mary.
"Thank God for Sola scriptura" You mean the manmade doctrine of Wycliffe and Luther? Where in the Bible is the Bible Alone doctrine? If you can show me that the Bible actually teaches that it's the only rule of authority and truth, then I'll convert. "enjoy the King James version of the Bible." It's too Shakespeare like for me. I like the RSV Catholic Bible with all the books, not the truncated Bible that Luther created. "everyone left because of corruption Over time, popes and bishops began selling indulgences as a way of raising money." It is true that sinful Church leaders did bad things, but the appropriate response was to reform the Church, not create a split and new doctrines. "This practice made it seem that people could buy forgiveness for their sins." An indulgence doesn't forgive sins, it takes away the punishment of sins already forgiven. "I would never dishonor the reformers men like John Calvin and Martin Luther by becoming Catholic." Did you know that Luther ADDED the word "alone" to his German translation of Romans 3:28 to support his unbiblical "faith alone" doctrine? You know what the Bible says about adding or subtracting from Scripture? We also know he took out 7 books that were accepted canon for about 1,100 years. I would be honoring Luther too if he had stayed a Catholic monk who worked inside the Church to reform the abuses you mentioned instead of creating a new Bible canon with new doctrines. "Jesus Christ did not come after start a religion" He told Peter He would build a Church on Peter and even gave him the KEYS (a symbol of authority). How is that not a visible Church? The early Church fathers took Jesus at His Word. "Jesus Christ saved by faith alone not works lest any man should boast." The "works" he is referring to are of the over 600 the Jews maintained like circumcision. We are saved by faith in Jesus AND works. James 2 tells us that we are justified by WORKS AND NOT FAITH ALONE. Luther didn't like James and wanted to burn it. You can have all the faith in the world and still go to Hell because not everyone who says to me lord lord, but he who does the will of my father (Mt 7:21). The Devil has faith that Jesus is real, but he made a bad choice in not serving so he fell from the heavens. Salvation is a process that we work out with fear and trembling (Phil 2). It's not a one time event in which you accept Jesus into your heart and then BOOM you're saved. You have to make that decision every day for the love of Jesus. That's real love. You wouldn't tell a spouse that you accept them into your heart so you don't need to do anything in the relationship anymore to keep it up. It's a process of growing in love and doing the things it takes. "Jesus Christ is Lord not Mary." Amen, thank you for stating the obvious. Peace
@@phil5457hello :) I wanna ask about something you said. You said that indulgences take away the punishment for sins already forgiven. Hebrews 7:26-27 tells us “For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.” Hebrews 7:26-27 It seems to me like the writer is saying that we no longer have to present sacrifices or payments for our sins anymore because our one and only high priest, Christ, did it “once and for all when He offered up Himself.” So my question is, what do you mean by indulgences take away the punishment for sins that have already been forgiven, for if Jesus already made the payment for his followers once and for all, why do we need to make a payment on our own? Also just wanted to add a note, I don’t say any of this to go against you as a person, I’m a Protestant and am wanting to learn more about Catholic beliefs from Catholics themselves
@@lf6932 Hi, thanks for the respectful question. I'll do my best in answering it as someone who has spent time in a Catholic seminary and studied theology. Catholics believe that Jesus opened heaven for us by his redemptive death on the cross, but how we respond to and receive our salvation is a process. It is true that we no longer need to offer up the blood of animals since the Old Law was fulfilled in the perfect sacrifice of Jesus, as you point out (Heb 7:26-27). However, the Bible says that we still need forgiveness of sins and will be judged on how well we love and do God's will in this life. So, it's a matter of applying the grace of His sacrifice to our lives, and how we receive forgiveness. Jesus gave the power to forgive to the disciples: “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained" (Jn 20:22-23). It wouldn't be necessary to have forgiveness of sins if the one sacrifice of Christ is enough for everything we do today. I mean, if Jesus paid the price does that mean I can go on sinning and not worry about punishment? “If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions” (Mt 6:14-15). So forgiveness is not automatic. It's not simply we believe and we are saved. In Matthew 25 Jesus says the ones who are saved do the corporal works of mercy and the ones who don't are told: “Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels” (41). The Bible distinguishes between mortal (deadly) and venial sins and that we must pray for those who commit sin: "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal" (1 Jn 5:16-17). Catholics believe in something called the mystical body of Christ (see: www.newadvent.org/cathen/10663a.htm), which enables us to pray for each other and help each other make it to heaven. St. Paul says, "Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of His body, that is, the church" (Col 1:24). One of the things I enjoy about being Catholic is praying for people and offering up my sufferings in union with Jesus. In 2 Maccabees chapter 12 Judas' men who died in battle had tokens from idols in their possession. Judas prayed "that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out...Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin" (42,45). This, of course, supports the doctrine of purgatory, but also shows that we can help others with punishment due to sin. The Church has the power to "bind" and "loose" (Mt 16:19) and forgive sins (Jn 20:22-23). Along with the power to forgive sins in the name of Christ, the Church can apply His merits to a person doing penance. Let's say I damage a person's property and confess to a priest. As a penance the priest my ask me if I can restore the damaged property in some way, either by fixing it or by money. If I say I can then the priest can require that as my penance I make restitution. But let's say I slander a person's reputation at work and prevent them from getting a raise or something. That would be more difficult to restore. The penance might be to say some prayers, yet that probably wouldn't take care of all the punishment required. For our help, the Church offers indulgences that we can participate in to help remove the temporal punishment due to our sins. There are a lot of ways we can get indulgences by praying and helping others. I don't typically concern myself with them too much. I need them and use them but don't dwell on them as if I'm earning my way to heaven. That's not the way it works. It's a process. We need to be made clean to enter heaven and stand before God. Even Jesus spoke about a third place besides heaven and hell: "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come." Notice how he says "neither in this world, nor in the world to come"? He is implying that some sin can be forgiven (venial) in the next world. Yet we know that both heaven and hell are eternal and that we must be perfect to enter heaven. Therefore Jesus must be speaking about a place of purification (purgatory). I have heard people with near death experiences describe a place like purgatory and it's well attested in the lives of the saints. Souls of the departed sometimes visit a holy person to ask for prayers and later return to thank them. If your interested in the spiritual life I suggest a book, Divine Mercy in My Soul, Diary of Saint Maria Faustina Kowalska. She was a polish nun (d. 1930s) who received visions of Jesus, the Divine Mercy. When I first read the book it blew me away. I still find wisdom in it for my life. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, but spiritual reading helps tremendously since we see how others gained salvation closer to our own time. "Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith..." (Heb 12:1-2)
@@phil5457 hey Phil! Thank you for the respectful reply, I greatly appreciate being able to have a peaceful discussion with someone rather than a name-calling yelling match, which happens so often on the internet, so thank you. I agree with you that we cannot be “saved” then live a life of sin, but I don’t think it’s because we lose our salvation, it’s because we were never in Christ. I think many Protestants get salvation wrong by thinking it’s simply a confession of the mouth and that’s it, that’s a simply ridiculous notion that too many people sadly believe gets them to Heaven. Paul tells us “that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.” Romans 10:9-10 The confession of the mouth comes after belief in the heart, true sincere belief, which is manifested in life change and conformity of our hearts and lives to be more like Jesus, by the work of the Spirit. So yes I agree with you that salvation is not simply a profession of faith without life change. Like James talks about in James 2, faith without works is dead because if our faith is not producing good works and conformity to Jesus, it’s dead faith, faith which cannot save. However, if we have true faith, sincere faith, the sacrifice of Jesus is applied to our lives and our sins, past present and future, are paid for. Yes, as Christians we still make mistakes and sin, but we can confess those sins straight to Jesus, for He hears our cries for Him. As I’m sure you know, Jesus tells His followers in John 14 that if we love Him, we will obey His commandments. If one is disobeying His commandments and feels no conviction, is comfortable in that life of sin, I do not believe they are truly saved because they have obviously not truly made Jesus lord of their life. If we truly make Jesus lord of our life, we will serve Him obediently because that is what a good servant does, and it is our purpose as humans to live for the glory and praise of God. However, we do not work to pay off our sins. “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.” 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Here, Paul is rebuking the Corinthians for their unholy actions, like sexual immorality and drunkenness to name a few, however He still says the Holy Spirit is in them, but according to Catholic theology they have committed a mortal sin, lust, and would have lost their salvation and connection with God. The Holy Spirit cannot be in them if they have no connection with God. However, in verse 20, Paul says Jesus bought them with a price and tells them to glorify God with their bodies, Here, Paul is outlining how their salvation is not if their works, they did not work with Jesus to do the buying of their sins, Jesus bought their sins alone. Therefore, if they sincerely have made Jesus lord, they must repent of their sins and live their life in step with the Spirit, walking the narrow road. Now on the apostles having the authority to give sin, this came through the Holy Spirit, which I’m sure you know, but they weren’t forgiving the sins of Christ followers, they were forgiving the sins of nonbelievers, some being Jews who did not fully understand that the OT was meant to point to Jesus. “And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead. Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.”” Acts 10:42-43 Here, Peter states that the apostles have been ordered to preach to the people and testify in favor of Jesus, to spread the Gospel. He then states that “through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” All we have to do to receive forgiveness of sins is believe in Christ, truly making Him lord of our lives. Not simply an intellectual belief, for even demons believe that Jesus existed and rose from the dead, but true and complete trust (faith) in Jesus as lord. When we truly put our lives into Jesus’ hands, He forgives all our sins and blesses us with the Holy Spirit inside of us, who further refines and consecrates us through conviction and a new heart. Lastly, in Colossians 1:24, Paul is not saying that by his suffering he is increasing the forgiveness that is offered in Christs sacrifice, but he is saying that he is playing his part in the Gospel, which is to share it to all. Jesus sacrifice was fully sufficient in paying for our sins, but it was not sufficient in the spreading of the news of the Gospel, which is why Jesus tells the apostles to spread the Gospel to all nations and baptize people in His name. John Piper does a great video on explaining this (www.desiringgod.org/labs/what-is-lacking-in-christs-afflictions) Thank you for this discussion Phil, it seems as if you have a genuine love and adoration for Jesus and I encourage you to continue researching and learning, as I will. Thank you for telling me more about the Catholic point of view, it’s so nice to hear from someone who genuinely wants to inform and not bash others :) May you have a blessed day and thank you for this discussion!
Ave, María, grátia plena, Dóminus tecum. Benedicta tu in muliéribus, et benedíctus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta María, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
i wonder Mike why so many, for example (Anglican clergy) have become (RC) catholics. Especiaslly in England where around 10% of the active clergy were once CofE clergy. This includes many bishops including the recent (CofE) Bishop of Rochester and some years ago the third most senior bishop in the CofE Graham Leonard who was Bishop of London. Any comment?
It's simple: most people are deceived (and, therefore, going to h€ll). For them the Lord Jesus Christ, His FINISHED redemptive work, and His Word are not sufficient; lots of those embracing Roman Catholicism are as deceived as Eve was. "For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires." •2 Tim 4:3•
I think it's because of extreme liberalism that is coming into the Anglican church. Many pastors have went independent, but some convert to Catholicism. I see a lot of protestant pastors convert too. They read the church fathers and think they see consensus. They also like the security of feeling they are part of the church that Jesus founded w/ the apostles, since that is the claim. I don't know when when they know the bible so well that they can handle all the added doctrines, not found in the bible?
This really seems to show a person who is scrupulous and had turn to another denomination so he can justify his sin. The purpose of confession put you in a state of grace and receive God in the Eucharist. This doesn’t mean to go out and keep sinning. At the end out of the 35,000 Christian denominations only one was created by God him self and that would be the Catholic Church. You also should study the apostolic fathers who are those who knew the actual apostles like St Ignatius of Antioch where we have the first documented use of the word Catholic Church and he also discusses the structure of the church with descriptions of Bishop’s, priest and Deacons. He also discuss heretics which would be those non Catholics. This seems to be a video of a person not taking the time or effort to really learn about his Catholic faith. It may hurt but the Catholic Church is the one and only true church! Each Christian denomination has their own interpretation and can’t prove theirs is true with any authority. Only the Catholic Church can consecrate the Eucharist and the Bible says in John 41-51 you must eat his body and drink his blood to receive him. This wasn’t a metaphor, be people actually walking away when he said this, but he doesn’t. Just like I the last supper. Only Catholics receive the true body and blood. Even Satan worshiper try to infiltrate a Catholic mass to steal it and desecrate it because they know. I hope and pray other denominations learn before it is too late. Many blessings!
“This really seems to show a person who is scrupulous, had turn to another denomination so he can justify his sin.” 4:33 Did you even watch the video? 7:37
2 CHURCHES- THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH - EPHESIANS 5:23-25...* EVEN AS CHRIST IS THE "HEAD"OF THE CHURCH * AND HE IS THE "SAVIOUR" OF THE BODY * THEREFORE AS THE CHURCH IS " SUBJECT" UNTO CHRIST(NOT TO THE POPE! ) * EVEN AS CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE CHURCH AND "GAVE" HIMSELF FOR IT * FOR WE ARE "MEMBERS" OF HIS BODY, OF HIS FLESH, AND OF HIS BONES.THE LORD JESUS IS IT'S ONLY BUILDER AND HEAD.THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST HIS CHURCH(MATT.16:18).IT IS MADE OF BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS WHO ARE IN CHRIST AND SANCTIFIED BY THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD.THE APOSTATE CHURCH IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH * THE POPE IS THE "HEAD" OF HIS CATHOLIC CHURCH THE VICAR OF CHRIST IS THEIR god..!! * ALL DEVOUT CATHOLICS ARE SUBJECT(SUBMISSIVE) TO THE VICAR OF CHRIST THEIR "god"..!! *THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ANTI-CHRIST *
Ask Ex catholic priests who left the man made pagan ritualistic church for the Love of Christ... they don't know catholicism either .. after serving for 4-5 decades as priests?? Bro... You really need to be honest in searching for EX CATHOLIC priests & their claims. atleast.
I’m disheartened to see the confusion about the Catholic Church in this video. I encourage you all to learn more about the teachings of Catholicism and not to gloss over the truth found in the Catholic Church. Please just pray and love God with honesty and an unbiased love of the truth that is God.
I encourage you to seek Christ, not any religion. It's Christ that will give you salvation. It is HE who will save you, not the Catholic church or any church for that matter. I was a Catholic and I was also a Religion teacher. So I know the teachings and the history of Catholicism. The problem was that I realized that I was more focused on religion and rituals and not on a relationship with Jesus. Seek Jesus and you will find HIM, not the catholic church. Spend your time with Christ and build a relationship with Him. That was what I did and He opened my eyes to the truth. I pray the same for you. God bless!
I do seek Jesus and I find him in the Catholic Church. I understand that you had a difficult time recognizing the truth of Catholicism, and I don’t know at all the details of what led you to focus on the rituals and the religion itself in a way that distracted you from personal relationship with Christ, but that is not the focus or truth of Catholicism. The Catholic Church does not call Christians to devote themselves to meaningless ritual or worship of anything but the one true God who is Jesus Christ. The rituals and religious structures of the church are given by Christ as a means to lead us to him. I pray that you may find Christ also and for your peace along the journey. I do also hope that you might recognize the goodness and the presence of God to be found in the Catholic faith.
The catholic church would be wise to eliminate celibacy for priests. There would be no priest shortage.
@bxd7793 I was brought up as roman catholic and reading the Bible was not encouraged and we practised kissing statue of Mary and Jesus, we prayed "Hail Mary" because Mary is co-redemptix, co-mediatrix as an intecessor between God and man as part of RC's doctrine.
John 3.16, Acts 4.12 and John 6.40 to believe in CHRIST alone not church, not religion
@@bxd7793 I appreciate your heartfelt and loving response. if someone accused me of not having a relationship with Christ because I was a Catholic, I would not have been so tolerant to my response. It always saddens me to hear the hatred of Catholicism and the accusations made about how Catholics don’t know Christ etc. once people become protestant.
This man stated something demonstrably false @ 14:35. He says the Catholic Church teaches that penance is needed for absolution. THAT IS FALSE. That is not true. You can read this in the catechism (CCC # 1451 & 1452). I am a Catholic Priest and we teach, officially, that sins are forgiven at contrition -- sorrow for the sin and a desire for forgiveness -- and penances are a means for us to focus our life on the goods of God. They are not required to receive absolution.
Thank you, Father. heartbreaking isn’t it, that someone who was catechized Catholic could speak these falsehoods about our church. And make a living from it.
Our sins were forgiven at the cross-it's up to us to accept this free gift.
Don't worry, they'll be back in God's time. Amen.
What does a catechism have to do with being saved by grace alone? Why would any church need an explanation manual to further "explain" God's loving Bible? I pray everyone finds Jesus the way God intended, not the way human self would lead us. God bless
@@jamesirvin2967 What for you is the pillar and foundation of the truth?
I feel for Mike, he is a victim of poor catechisis. Most of his issues with Catholicism are not even what the Church teaches. He reminds myself when I was protestant. Praise God he bought me to his One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Never spoken more clearly
Why don't you identify as a Christian, instead of identifying with a church?
@@RS54321 "Why don't you identify as a Christian, instead of identifying with a church?"
Because it's only protestants who try to make a distinction, a reflection of animosity and a source of division never found in Christianity for over 1500 years.
*St Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of St John. His words below*
“See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the appointment of God. *Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it.* Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, *wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”* Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110).
*St Irenaeus below*
“[N]or does it consist in this, that he should again falsely imagine, as being above this [fancied being], a Pleroma at one time supposed to contain thirty, and at another time an innumerable tribe of Aeons, as these teachers who are destitute of truly divine wisdom maintain; while *the Catholic Church possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world,* as we have already said.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1: 10,3 (A.D. 180).
*St Cyprian*
”Whence you ought to know that the bishop is in the Church, and the Church in the bishop; and if any one be not with the bishop, that he is not in the Church, and that those flatter themselves in vain who creep in, not having peace with God’s priests, and think that they communicate secretly with some; while *the Church, which is Catholic and one, is not cut nor divided, but is indeed connected and bound together by the cement of priests who cohere with one another.”* Cyprian, To Florentius, Epistle 66/67 (A.D. 254).
*St Cyril of Jerusalem*
*“[T]he Article, In one Holy Catholic Church,’ on which, though one might say many things, we will speak but briefly. It is called Catholic then because it extends over all the world, from one end of the earth to the other; and because it teaches universally and completely one and all the doctrines which ought to come to men’s knowledge, concerning things both visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly… for this cause the Faith has securely delivered to thee now the Article, And in one Holy Catholic Church;’ that thou mayest avoid their wretched meetings, and ever abide with the Holy Church Catholic in which thou wast regenerated. And if ever thou art sojourning in cities, inquire not simply where the Lord’s House is (for the other sects of the profane also attempt to call their own dens houses of the Lord), nor merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God.”* Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, 18: 23,26 (A.D. 350).
I could go on .... and on.
This is a poor argument, as well as a shot at protestants. I see this same argument over and over. Any criticisms leveled against the Catholic church is apparently false and based on the ignorance of individual. I find it highly unlikely that somany former Catholics are mistaken.
@@vladtheinhaler8940 it isn’t meant to be a dig at Protestants. This is the experience of so many, lots of us were bought up Catholic didn’t know the faith, left it for Protestant denominations and discovered the truth years later. I personally know lots of reverts with this. When an “ex-Catholic” tells you what we believe check it against the catechism
The problem with these grievances is that they can be applied to people who grew up in protestant homes with poor spiritual guidance. At the heart of these issues isn’t Catholicism. In fact, as a protestant, I left that world for Catholicism after much discernment. Read the Bible, get under the guidance of someone who knows the faith, but I would not blame the whole of Christianity for an angsty teen who grew up in a lukewarm religious home coming to me and going “I went to church but I don’t get it”. In a similar way, I’d encourage not blaming Christ’s Church for bad catechesis - which is a real thing and needs to be dealt with, and thank God is being dealt with.
True, good bless from a recent 24 yo convert from Lutheranism to Catholicism in Germany❤
Grievances?
Like the Catholic church removing the 2nd Commandment from the Bible and dividing the 10th into two Commandments? Go read a NKJ, KJ, or NASB Exodus 20. Catholics removed it because they went against God to create images of what God commanded them not to do.
Like the mass where priests call Jesus out of heaven to sacrifice him over and over again?
Like transubstantiation where the bread and wine are believed to actual transform into the body and blood of Jesus?
Like creating the priesthood where Catholics have to go to earthly fathers for the forgiveness of sins, instead of going DIRECTLY to God and asking for His forgiveness. Like priest being a mediator between man and God, when the Bible specifically says There is ONE mediator between man and God, that mediator is Jesus Christ.
Like praying to Mary who cannot hear your prayers. No, only the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can hear our prayers.
Like believing that Mary was without sin when Jesus was conceived? Then why did the Bible say she went to the Temple to give a sin offering?
Like believing that Mary never had sex with Joseph when the Bible says that Joseph did not KNOW her until the birth of Jesus. Where the Bible says that Jesus had a number of brotherS and sisterS?
Like stopping priests and nuns from marrying resulting in sexual abuse because both men and women could not enjoy what God has given us?
Like baptizing babies that have NO scriptural basis?
and so on and so on.
The Bible ALONE is God's will and word. All you have to do is read it to see the contradictions between the Bible and Catholic teachings.
@@karlheven8328 much love
@@karlheven8328 This is one of the reasons why I've always found myself drawn to Baptist/Anabaptist denominations. They seem to attempt to emulate what it would have been like for the first generation of Christian converts in the Roman Empire.
First generation Christians didn't get baptized as infants, and neither do they. First generation Christian churches weren't these gigantic Cathedrals with stain glass windows (which I love by the way), they were plain utilitarian places like homes, and so are their churches. First generation Christians often didn't have access to intermediaries like priests and bishops who could help them get to God, they had to foster their relationship with God much more personally and much more one-on-one often times (due to how much smaller the early Christian communities were).
And perhaps most importantly, first generation Christians had to freely choose to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior themselves, no one gave them that faith from birth, and they have to as well (hence why the Amish for example have that period of time where their children live outside of the community. They don't want their children to simply say they believe in Jesus and choose to follow him, they want that to be their free choice just like it was for the first generation of Christians).
Regardless of which denomination I finally become rooted in, there's something I find beautiful about this, and I hope even the most Conservative Catholics and Orthodox can find at least some beauty in this as well. Unless I'm radically misunderstanding it, I for my part also certainly respect that the Catholic Church's goal is for every member to emulate Jesus' perfection in their working out of their salvation after their baptism and confirmation, even if I ultimately reject that soteriology.
@@karlheven8328 Greetings, Karl. My neighbors were from Stuttgart and Berlin. What was the catalyst for your conversion may I ask?
I've watched over 50 videos of Protestants vs Catholics and people converting from one to the other and vice versa. None converting to Catholicism started with "How the Lord save me from protestantism (in a condescending manner)", they usually do their homework and find out the truth shining magnificently before their very eyes and gladly choose with immense joy. Proud Catholic here and an even prouder Christian
Bingo. Also, I've never seen a Catholic who knew their faith become a Protestant. It's always Catholics who didn't know their faith. The opposite is true though: when Protestants who knows their faith study more deeply, particularly the early church's beliefs before Constantine allegedly created the Catholic Church, they end up becoming Catholic.
Then you don't know any former catholics. I was a devout tradcath and it was the most toxic religious community and the most corrupt church. I did my homework and the teachers of the faith still did not have any realy answers. Your pride in your faith is sinful and you are closer to dogma than to God.@@KEP1983
Yes! I found myself listening to podcasts titled “Protestant to catholic” so I thought why not listen to some catholic to Protestant vids. Just to hear what people have to say and for some strengthening of faith. But I have noticed the same things!
@@Enne_esse Neither have I ever known a Catholic who knew their faith and became protestant.
" teachers of the faith still did not have any realy answers. "
Please explain where in John 6, where Jesus is speaking symbolically ONLY :
53 So *Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;*
54 he who *eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life,* and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For *my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.*
56 *He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.*
57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so *he who eats me will live because of me.*
Protestantism, wherever and if they celebrate the Lord's Supper, does so most commonly with grape juice and bread. That's all it ever is, nothing more. It's not the resurrected Christ, and there is no grace contained.
@@TruthHasSpoken amen 🙏🏼
I just recently left the catholic church after being in it for 24 years, I'm so thankful that God opened my eyes and revealed the truth to me. I was so luke warm I was growing cold. I went to church all my life, and I was still so blind, Now I have an intimate relationship with Jesus. He saved my life.
I've been a Catholic all my life and have an intimate relationship with Jesus. He's saving my living soul ! Life as you know it is temporary
I am very sorry to my core that you did not take the time to reeducate yourself about Catholicism via RCIA and ask questions of your local priest, and whomever you could ask, who would’ve been very happy to help you relearn your Catholic faith before you ran to a protestant tradition who believe the Catholics are going to hell. Please, do not turn your back on Our Lady as she has never turned her back on you; and consider being reeducated in the Catholic tradition before becoming completely immersed in, protestant stances. I’m not saying that you can’t leave, just that you learn. Once you have learned as an adult, you, the traditions and Sacrament information at the Catholic Church, you may make an educated decision (not one based upon prejudice and bias) about whether you should leave the church. By the way, although you’ve been told differently, Catholics are not all going to hell by virtue of the fact that they’re Catholic. Look up Keith Nester on TH-cam, he does an excellent job of explaining Catholicism, and he also started a weekly rosary service called the rosary crew in which people participate from all over the world. Vivo Cristo Rey. ❤ God Bless.
@Chelsea, actually, you prefer a system where you do not have to go to confession and confront your embarrassing sins, right?
@@eireannemerald1382 'Please, do not turn your back on Our Lady as she has never turned her back on you' You are referring to Mary, no? Where are you getting this teaching from?
We are to turn to Christ, the only one who saves, not his mother, who was a mere human and died, like all of us will.
@@RS54321 yes, I am refer, as you call her, “just a woman,” although her real name is Regina, queen of heaven, star of the sea, mother of God, our Lady of Guadalupe, Notre Dame, our Lady of Lourdes, our Lady of Fatima (you surely must’ve heard of the Prophecies of Fatima and which Mary appeared, and gave prophecies to three village children in Fatima) These are but a few names that Our Lady, Notre Dame, is called. Jesus called her Mother. of course, we turn to Jesus but we, the faithful, also know the role of Mary as intercessor, healer, divine inspiration, among any other things. I’m sorry that you don’t know that. why do you learn these teachings? We learn them from our church, from the priest, who Jesus called to serve him. You may want to look up a famous Italian Catholic priest,, an exorcist called father amorth. He said when he speaks Mary’s name, the demon starts screaming because they cannot tolerate her name because of her holiness. Pretty sure that if you’re interested, she will in her own private manner respond. Oh, just to let you know, be very careful in the manner. What do you speak about Jesus’s mother. he wouldn’t want to offend him. Just some advice. With love, the faithful. so I’m asking you the same: please, do not turn your back on Our Lady. She has never turned her back on you.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us simmers now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
This was very funny thank you so much the host was funny as well 😂 thank you praying for you guys 🙏🏽
Most of you don’t even understand the difference between “works/ works of the law” and “good works”
Praise be to God and may he bless his one holy Catholic and apostolic church
Correct “Catholic” not “Roman Catholic” there’s a difference.
I suppose. The Catholic Church is not merely the Latin (colloquially Roman) Catholic Church. It’s composed of 24 sub iuris churches, of which the Latin (Roman) church is by far the largest
God does NOT bless religion. He will bless all people who follow Him and only Him. Who speaks His name as God and their savior.
Amos 5
21 “I hate, I despise your religious festivals;
your assemblies are a stench to me.
22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings,
I will not accept them.
Though you bring choice fellowship offerings,
I will have no regard for them.
23 Away with the noise of your songs!
I will not listen to the music of your harps.
@@styles3349note how that passage is directly addressing particular religions, not condemning religion wholesale. The scripture actually directly provides the foundations for the religious practices of the Israelites. How is that a condemnation of religion? Also following God and praising him together is literally the entire purpose of religion. If you want to do those things religion provides the most fulfilling way to directly love and follow God without the distractions of your personal intellectual and spiritual shortcomings, united in communion with God through the church.
@@bxd7793 That's true. Amos was called to speak at a time when the kingdom of Israel was doing very well, were gaining land and wealth, but they had forgotten the heart of God. But That doesn't mean it can't be applied in the modern day. It is a reminder that all of these things - false piety, and empty offerings - we do that we think please God are not important. What God simply wants from us is to love Him with all our hearts.
so here is a Genuine question that I will not argue on but rather plainly hear. Do you love your religion more than God? Since the Bible says, whatever we love more than God is called idolatry. And loving religion makes us commit idolatry. Jesus says in Matthew 10:37 "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me."
And if you love God more than anything, If God says to you today, give up your religion, your offerings, the catholic sacraments, your love for mary and figures, and "saints" declared by the pope. Give them up and follow Jesus as the only mediator (1 timothy 2:5) , give them up and walk by faith and not by sight (2 cor 5:7). Will you obey Him?
This is excellent! I also was raised Roman Catholic Italian and I never heard the gospel of grace that I can rely on Jesus for my salvation and I don’t need to be focused on my good works anymore. I believed it and I changed and I know I was born again. Dead religion versus being saved and knowing Christ! That was 16 years ago and never looked back!
Praise the Lord Jesus amen,amen, and amen..!! All heaven rejoiced for one soul saved..!! Hallelujah...there is 😊 joy...joy in the Lord Jesus Christ..!!
Same here, croatian ex catholic :)
I am so sorry if you thought that Catholicism teaches you not to rely on Jesus for your salvation. It absolutely teaches to rely on Jesus. However, you can lose your salvation with evil works because you are rejecting Jesus' grace, in which case you need to repent, confess them, and turn back to Jesus. Catholicism is all about Jesus' grace.
@@colinsmith5957- That's too bad the Catholic church practices are heretical and disobeys the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Glad you found Christ brother. God bless you.
Thank you for your testimony Mike. I have been a Catholic for 40 years until God's mercy opened my eyes to the truth of His Word. For the longest time I couldn't compromise my faith with what was written in the Bible. I have attended Catholic Bible studies but it seemed filtered and the nuns cannot answer why the truth of the Bible was never taught in such depth in the church. I can relate to Mike's testimony. The things that kept me from truly knowing Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and savior are culture, tradition and other people's opinion. But the truth did set me free. I pray for my family and other Catholics, that God will open their eyes and ears to the truth of the Gospel. They are hard to reach because they have very strong convictions about their religion. They are sincere in their faith but it is more an allegiance to the Catholic church. May God humble their hearts to find themselves at the foot of the cross of Jesus Christ. I encourage everyone to please read the Bible and know the truth for yourself.
We were Roman Catholic "Nun" for most of our life. We left the church and have come to accept our Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour. It is a miracle and a great grace which we received to see the TRUTH. "Us" former Catholics KNOW that Catholics Worship Mary. God Bless you
@@servantsofthegospel6388 of course we know they worship Mary. We used to do that too. We were them. Bowing down in front of the statue. Pray to the saints and angels. Rosary... Only Jesus saves. He is our Lord and Savior. There is no other way to the Father. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life💖
@@patriciaw4270 You were never Catholic if you worshipped Mary. Catholics only worship God. Catholics HONOR Mary. If you had been any kind of Catholic, you would know that inside and out. Jesus never said "this is going to be just between you and me". God created family, fathers and mothers and children, it's a pattern that God created and said "HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER!". "And Mary said: "My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior. For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed. The Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name." Look around yourself, isn't it obvious that God, though he could have had a singular relationship with only you and him, instead created a more beautiful relationship with the entire holy family that you are invited to be part of?
I pray all Catholics eyes would be open to the truth of God's word and be born again.
Amen,amen,and amen.Thank you Jesus.! Very beautiful testimony of God opening your mind and heart to his word..!! God truly gives a new heart,new desires, all things have become new..!! Glory to God..!,
“This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
Are you a Catholic?
*”Lord, I am not worthy to receive you but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.”*
remembrance, not for future sacrifice
@@coldtruthrg120 I’m not exactly sure how to respond to this. I can however suggest that you look at some Catholic explanations of the Mass for some more information. God bless you and Our Lady keep you
@@user-fs9wj4wj2f the Catholic catechism explains the Eucharist as you call it as an ongoing sacrifice which is anti Bible. also there is no lady hearing your words
I never read the Bible because "the priests were telling me it's too difficult to understand." I've been a Catholic for longer than you were and never once in my life has a priest in all the parishes I've gone to said anything close to that. I find that incredibly difficult to believe. The priests I know promote Bible reading with an emphasis on the ancient practice of lectio divina.
However, the Catholic church doesn't obey the Bible. You have to do more than reading the Holy Bible. You need to live by it
Some Catholics have been told that. It's more an old school thing. My grandma used to say she wouldn't read the bible, because she didn't want to get her head screwed up like me. I've had Catholics online say that only the Catholic church can interpret the bible. They think we are being our own pope for reading it for ourselves.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 "I've had Catholics online say that only the Catholic church can interpret the bible."
The Bible has historically (since the time of Christ) been interpreted as a community (i.e., Church). The Catholic, therefore, interprets the Bible within the parameters of Church teaching. We don't determine doctrines the way Protestants do because the 7 perfect Sacraments and doctrines of the Church are infallible. We do read it prayerfully and meditate upon it to grow in our faith. St. Jerome says "ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ!"
In early Church history the only bible allowed in the building was the bible chained to the pulpit
@@PizzaFvngs "In early Church history the only bible allowed in the building was the bible chained to the pulpit"
Is that what you were told or can you give us a source? What specific time period are you referring to? The Catholic Church goes back to the time of Christ, but Protestantism is several hundred years later. The books of the NT were complied in the 4th century by the Catholic Church at council under the Pope. Bibles at that time were worth as much as a new sports car in todays money. Since the Bible was so valuable and the Catholic Church wanted EVERYONE to have access to the Bible, they chained them in certain instances. I believe this was mostly after the "Reformation" and happened in libraries. Protestants also chained their Bibles to prevent theft, just like their Catholic counterparts.
I love that statement "I dont have a religion, I have a relationship"
You should disobey Mike Gendron and read the Church Fathers and the Didache - all very Catholic. He is conning you.
@@fantasia55It is not biblical to pray to or pray for the dead. These are false doctrines espoused by the catholic church. What Jesus did on the cross is sufficient however the catholic church would suggest that it wasn't, which is why purgatory is another falsehood of the catholic church. You cannot save yourself!
That’s nice but that’s not what The Bible teaches.:/
@@johnsteila6049 The Bible does not teach us to obey Mike Gendron.
@@fantasia55 No kidding..
Mike Gendron claims that the Catholic Church doesn't go through the Bible and in particular in the verses he mentioned, Ephesians 2:8-9 and 2 Corinthians 5:21, yet this is demonstrably false. For example, Ash Wednesday we have the second readings from 2 Corinthians 5:20-6:2. Fourth Sunday of Lent (Laetare Sunday, or Rejoce Sunday) we have for the second reading Ephesians 2:4-10. This is Year B readings, which is THIS year. These words were spoken from the lips of a Catholic at Mass everywhere the Church has Mass on February 14, 2024 - Ash Wednesday, and on March 10, 2024 - Laetare Sunday. Mike Gendron must have slept during Mass if he didn't hear these words.
Glad I’m not Catholic 😅 praise God for His Word, it is Truth, and Life. There is no other!! Great testimony brother!!
❤❤
Mikes testimony’s is not credible, total misleading I’ve been catholic my lifetime and never heard anything that he said happened the fact he said he never read the Bible is total nonsense he’s lying in mass we read from O.T. The psalms, N.T. And the gospel and there Bible study in all churches if you go to mass everyday which you can unlike Protestants places where the pastor is married and only has time for a weekly service, you can read the entire Bible in a three year cycle liturgical tradition, front to back no kidding, so he’s misleading false pastor, wolf in sheep clothing….beware of false pastors Matthew 7:15..
"Penance is like a punishment?"
All of what he's saying shows he never understood the Church. Look up Scott Hahn's testimony for a real testimony of someone who really understands.
Please read your Bible and learn what the true, original church believed.
Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture.
For the first 280 years of Christian history, Christianity was banned by the Roman Empire, and Christians were terribly persecuted. This changed after the “conversion” of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine provided religious toleration with the Edict of Milan in AD 313, effectively lifting the ban on Christianity. Later, in AD 325, Constantine called the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify Christianity.
Constantine envisioned Christianity as a religion that could unite the Roman Empire, which at that time was beginning to fragment and divide. While this may have seemed to be a positive development for the Christian church, the results were anything but positive. Just as Constantine refused to fully embrace the Christian faith but continued many of his pagan beliefs and practices, so the Christian church that Constantine and his successors promoted progressively became a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism.
Following are a few examples:
Most Roman Catholic beliefs and practices regarding Mary are completely absent from the Bible. Where did those beliefs come from? The Roman Catholic view of Mary has far more in common with the Isis mother-goddess religion of Egypt than it does with anything taught in the New Testament. Interestingly, the first hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship.
The Lord’s Supper being a consumption of the literal body and blood of Jesus is not taught in the Bible. The idea that bread and wine are miraculously transformed into the literal body and blood of Jesus (transubstantiation) is not biblical. However, several ancient pagan religions, including Mithraism, which was very popular in the Roman Empire, had some form of “theophagy” (the eating of one’s god) as a ritualistic practice.
Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture.
Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.
The idea that the Roman bishop is the vicar of Christ, the supreme leader of the Christian Church, is utterly foreign to the Word of God. The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, again, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. After the western half of the Roman Empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors-Pontifex Maximus.
Many more examples could be given. These four should suffice in demonstrating the origin of the Catholic Church. Of course, the Roman Catholic Church denies the pagan origin of its beliefs and practices. The Catholic Church disguises its pagan beliefs under layers of complicated theology and church tradition. Recognizing that many of its beliefs and practices are utterly foreign to Scripture, the Catholic Church is forced to deny the authority and sufficiency of Scripture.
The origin of the Catholic Church is the tragic compromise of Christianity with the pagan religions that surrounded it. Instead of proclaiming the gospel and converting the pagans, the Catholic Church “Christianized” the pagan religions and “paganized” Christianity.
By blurring the differences and erasing the distinctions, the Catholic Church made itself attractive to the idolatrous people of the Roman Empire. One result was the Catholic Church becoming the supreme religion in the Roman world for centuries. However, another result was the most dominant form of Christianity apostatizing from the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the true proclamation of God’s Word.
Second Timothy 4:3-4 declares, “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”
www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
@@jlewis8145 Bruh, I've read all of what you're saying. It's all very much Catholic.
Go to churchfathers.org or read the book The Fathers Know Best.
@@berwynsigns4115 Do you know for sure, if you were to die today, where you would spend eternity?
@@jlewis8145 Apparently my reply didn't post. anyway I will talk to you if you go listen to Scott Hahn's conversion tape.
Oh wow… so much of what he is saying is not what the Catholic Church teaches. Repent is still repent, penance is very different. As a mathematician I would hope he had his math formulas correct
God bless you brother Mike and your ministry.
The ministry of hate. Yeah, good for Mike!
There are spirit filled Catholics just as there are spirit filled Protestants. There are fake Catholics and there are fake Protestants. I am a Protestant but I can admit that the Lord can make Catholics who believe in the gospel and resurrection to stand on the Last day.
Yes, I full agree. There are Catholics that love Jesus and serve God so fervently. Some protestants become Catholic and feel much closer to God. Sometimes it goes this way. They have false doctrines, but I think we all do. I don't know how they have any peace w/ purgatory and all the punishment for temporal sin hanging over their head, but it's their belief. If feels like an oppressive weight to me to even think of it. I'm free in Christ, and I trust him fully for my salvation.
Even the worst Catholic should be able to tell the separated brethren that the most spirit filled person was the Virgin Mary. The bible quotes her as saying "My soul doth magnify the Lord" Gabriel said the Holy Ghost will overshadow you. episkiazō is the Greek word for overshadow used only five times in the whole bible. ἐπισκιάζω
I disagree. In 1985 I was saved in my apt alone. I only knew of Catholicism. Never heard the Gospel or ever met a born again Christian. Didn't even know that term. But I can tell you this. After that wonderful day the Lord came to me..I decided to go to a Catholic Church...when I opened the door I heard the Lord say, "I am not here". I also felt an immense evil and felt nauseated. No one swayed me. No one. It was the Lord. There is no way you can stay in that system. You cannot redeem it. You must come out.
@@maryr130 I have heard of people that were raised protestant Christian convert to Catholicism, because they were in a Catholic Mass and God spoke to them as well. It completely changed their love and devotion to God. One person said they just went through the motions because they were afraid of hell. Once they became Catholic, they loved going to church, the more the better, and continually wanted to praise and serve Jesus.
I'm not Catholic either, but I do see it going both ways. Sometimes people have a closer walk w/ God to convert.
That is an incredible story. Thank you for sharing.@@maryr130
He wasn't properly educated as a Catholic, that's probably why he fell away.
It makes sense though, he looks old enough to have been going through the worst parts of Vatican 2.
He did grow up in the 60s as I. Still Catholic , always will be.
@@jgood6088 My grandparents are still Catholic too, unfortunately theology took a nose dive then, things are starting to get a little better, or at least there is a clearer division between faithful Catholics and the heretics in the Church.
@@mikeDeSales943 Always going to be division , the church is made up of sinful men. Be assured not every the gates of hell will reveal
@@mikeDeSales943 Unlike Mike Gendron Church, the Catholic Church is full of sinners . Sinners saved, being saved and having the hope of being saved. That's as Biblical as it gets.
You do realize this is the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, correct? Answer his assertions, don't just assert that he "wasn't properly educated as a Catholic."
1 Corinthians 11:2 “
I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you.”
And who handed them to Paul?
Galatians 1:11-12 (KJV) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul is handing down doctrine he received straight from Jesus Christ, not doctrine invented by man.
Mark 7:7-9 (KJV) Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
@@tunafish848 Did you know that Paul never knew Jesus until after He died?
How much do you think Paul learned first hand from a post mortem Christ?..
“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
A-MEN!! This is so similar to my own journey out of the Catholic Church. Thank you so much for sharing!!!
did you publish your testimony in written or maybe video? I'd be happy to know about it. God bless
Well, I hope you come back Ms. Carmen. God Bless you.
@@WhiteBraveheart1 She is back. The one true catholic church Jesus established in 30 AD. Not the one Rome disfigured in the 3-400's and beyond.
This guy is lying about Catholicism. I know. I'm a Catholic. He was just either looking for an "out" to indulge in some sinful behavior or he was too lazy to learn what Christ's one, true Church actually teaches.
how about calling him up and ask him questions ...🤣🤣🤣🤣@@gerry30
Christ is our Lord and savior. Put your trust in God. Read his word. Be obedient and die to self. I put my trust in no man. But in God and God alone. Got saved me 7 years ago. His word is my compass and he speaks through his word. I lift up Christ and Christ alone. Thank you Lord for your sweet mercy which saved me. You pulled me out of the system of religion and pulled me to you. Keep reaching the lost my brother in Christ I too have come out of darkness into his marvelous light.
You don’t follow any kind of religion?
@@johnsteila6049 I know it can sound cringe sometimes but Protestants mean "ritualistic religion" when they say that. Of course Protestants believe in a deity and and following his commandments and other hallmarks of religion.
I don't know who started that whole "relationship not religion" thing, but I think it's very counter productive to just re-define already existing words like the far-left does. The relationship part I can get behind, but I think they should say "relationship not dogma" instead of religion, but that's just me.
Religion is good with God you should read james 1:26-27, and if Jesus left his church we must be part of that church Matthew 16:18 and left (man) in and gave them authority to bind & loosen. 18-19
@@JustAskingQuestions8571 I agree. Protestantism emphasizes a personal relationship with Christ to deemphasizes the role of The Church. Both are important in reality.
God is good and the truth is fruitful
The sky is blue and water is wet
I too grew up catholic. Turned away for slightly different reasons and because I became one guilt filled depressed mess. Took a long time before I felt the call back at a Baptist service. I grew to love the bible and realise how self righteous and filthy I was. Still struggling and sometimes wonder if any of us have a perfect doctrine
I am convinced that perfect doctrine is impossible. God is perfect and infinite, the same with his teachings. We will always struggle to perfectly represent those truths. I think the most we are capable of is a shadow, but we must have faith the shadows represent something real that we will be present for one day.
I was raised Catholic and tho I never rejected the faith I needed conversion. I stumbled upon a book by Francis DeSales THE CATHOLIC Controversy
HE Evangelized 72000 FORMER Catholics during the reformation times. The tracts are 3 and 4 pages long. I encourage any Christian to read this. It really educated me on points of dogma disputed by Luther and the rest. All 72000 returned to the Church. This is amazing still.
I'm also convinced that "we see through a glass darkly", as 1 Corinthians 13 says. The RCC claims to have perfect doctrine. I know it is God's church too, but it's not perfect. The Jews were full of traditions of men in Jesus day, that Jesus called out, and it's the same today. Protestant churches are not better overall, but we are all struggling to serve God as best as we can.
Perfect doctrine?
How can anyone claim to have perfect doctrine when Luther was allowed to rip out 7 books from the bible. That's not a very biblical thing to do. The bible always had 73 books in it not 66 books
@@uncatila Lets just stop blaming Luther for a minute. He wasn't a perfect person either, but he didn't claim to be. Those deuto-canon books were contested in the past, both by Jews and Christians.
The issue is more that no one has perfect doctrine, but your church claims to be a perfect church w/ perfect doctrine.
I’m in a peculiar situation where I grew up Protestant, my immediate family walked away from church during my early teens. I became agnostic for 15 years, but praised the lord He called me back. After spending some time in a non-denominational church, reading the Bible , and strengthening my relationship with God, I found my myself being called to the Catholic Church. I resisted for a while because I didn’t understand it and had a lot of misconceptions. But I kept feeling the call to just learn about it with an open heart. And to my astonishment ever since I started embracing Catholicism, my relationship with God has gotten even stronger. I haven’t fully converted, still discerning and praying to God for guidance, hence why I’m here still listening to testimonies. I’ve listened to lots of testimonies from Protestant pastors who convert to Catholicism, but haven’t been able to find much on catholic priests or monastics converting to Protestantism. I think these testimonies from people who were poorly catechized are misleading. Unfortunately a lot of converts seem to know more about actual Catholic doctrine compared to cradle catholics, because they do so much research during the conversion/discernment period. For anyone wanting to learn more, please seek out information from people who are knowledgeable on the teachings of Catholicism or whatever Protestant denomination you are looking into. Learning about a denomination from someone who admits that they did not understand it, makes no sense. I truly believe reading the Bible and having a personal relationship with Christ is essential, and the Catholic church agrees! And we should be cautious of who’s interpreting the Bible for us, but if a catholic priest is not a trustworthy interpreter, what makes a Protestant pastor or even ourselves trustworthy interpreters? Why is bible study even necessary if we’re fully capable of understanding the word of God on our own? Protestants have been brainwashed to think they are living in a vacuum where it’s only them and God, reality is, unless you avoid church altogether, your church leaders are your interpreters. If someone knows of a denomination where they just read directly out of the Bible, without any sort of explanation or interpretation, please correct me. This comment is based on my limited experience at some “non-denominational” churches, I am not familiar with all Protestant traditions, which I could never never do since there’s so many!
I think you hit the nail on the head. I’m a cradle Catholic and I’m guilty of not reading my bible enough. Some of us may take what we have for granted and not apply ourselves to prove something we already believe in. I already started reading the Bible daily just to feel spend more time with God and his word. Coming from a very devout Catholic family, I have placed all my trust in the church teachings and I have experienced so many beautiful things in my faith that I could never go to another denomination. I love the Eucharist and have experienced a deeper love and longing for God through the intercession of Mary praying the rosary (Rosary 54 day novenas). I love the mass, adoration, all of the sacraments are beautiful. Please do look deeper in the Catholic faith. Recently I went to the Vatican and it was incredible to see the history and tradition of the church dating back to so many important events. The birth of Jesus and being able to see the relics of baby Jesus manger, a piece of the cross, the stairs Jesus stepped on while drops of his blood remain on these stairs. The succession of the Pope starting from Peter to pope Francis. Blessed Carlos Acutis and his incorrupt body in Assisi Italy. The Catholic Church is rich in tradition, blessings and it is the one true church. I’m leaving you a link of a “movie” that shows what happens during mass, this according to visions Catalina Rivas witnessed. She has the stigmata. God bless you on your journey…
th-cam.com/video/udzU--dpWEI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4LwijbIz0R_eWEsz
I enjoyed your testimony, I am so pleased the Holy Spirit directed you to a journey of Bible truths. I picked up you mentioned going to Sunday services. To be a member of a Bible based church, you should keep the 4th Commandment. God in Revelation with the three angels message states -here are they that keep commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
Matthew 5:17.
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets.
I am pleased you came out if that Catholic system, Satan is so powerful in his church.
Revin Evans
Queensland Australia
What are the three angels messages?
MESSAGE ONE
Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. 7 And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.”
MESSAGE TWO
8 Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion[ of her sexual immorality.”
MESSAGE THREE
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”
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Now what does the SDA church say are the three angels messages. By the way, is the date 1844 in the Bible somewhere?
MESSAGE ONE
The first angel's message was proclaimed in 1843/1844 through those who were erroneously announcing the imminent return of Jesus. Ellen White, Seventh-day Adventism's prophet, wrote:
Prophecy was fulfilled in the first and second angels' messages. They were given at the right time and accomplished the work which God designed to accomplish by them.
MESSAGE TWO
2. The second angel's message is a call for Christians attending non-Adventist churches to leave those churches and join the one true remnant church--the Seventh-day Adventists. As Mrs. White noted above, SDAs believed this prophecy was fulfilled in 1844 when some Christians left their churches to unite with the Millerite movement:
As the churches refused to receive the first angel's message, they rejected the light from heaven and fell from the favor of God. They trusted to their own strength, and by opposing the first message placed themselves where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, accepted the message, "Babylon is fallen," and left the churches.
When the churches spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second, proclaiming, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." Revelation 14:8.
This message was understood by Adventists to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the first message. The proclamation, "Babylon is fallen," was given in the summer of 1844, and as the result, about fifty thousand withdrew from these churches.
God has rejected the church that I attend.
I will be destroyed. Scary, eh?
THIRD MESSAGE
3. The third angel's message is a warning against receiving the Mark of the Beast, which is said to be worship on Sunday. According to the SDA end-time scenario, the last great battle between good and evil will be fought over the day of worship.
Those who keep the Seventh-day Sabbath will receive the Seal of God, while those who keep Sunday receive the Mark of the Beast. According to SDA teachings, all the world will unite under the leadership of Satan to impose Sunday laws upon Seventh-day Adventists. As this frightening scenario unfolds, eventually Sunday laws will be passed requiring a death sentence for anyone who refuses to worship on Sunday. Ellen White explains:
As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. ...a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts.
After this death decree has been passed by the evil Catholics and wicked Protestants, Jesus will return to save the holy Seventh-day Adventists. Then, He will execute the judgment described in Revelation 14:10-11 by sending fire to destroy all Sunday-keeping Christians.
God is going to send fire to destroy everyone who worships on Sunday.
Ellen White, The Great Controversy (1911), pp. 615-616.
nonsda.org/study1.shtml
James 2:10 Have you kept the whole law perfectly?
God requires perfection to get into heaven.
You need the righteousness of God.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
A Bible based church would never say that God needs to do an Investigative Judgment to determine those who are saved. The true and living God of the Bible is omniscient. God knew those who would be born before He even created the world. Ephesians 1:4
4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love
5 He predestined us to adoption as sons and daughters through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
Out of the over 35,000 Christian denominations only one was created and sanctified by God and that is the Catholic Church. You need to study the apostolic fathers or any of the church father to know this and what true church is. All others are heretics. Study St Ignatius of Antioch who was on of the Apostolic fathers where the first documented use in calling Gods one true church Catholic. This was even before the Bible was made, which was by the Catholic’s
James 2:14-26
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...
How can you live without communion? 😐
That’s what Jesus said in Jn 6
We live in communion with him. He lives in us and we do observe the Lord's Supper, we just don't believe in human flesh chips.
We celebrate The Lord’s Supper and remember His sacrifice. Please don’t refer to our ministers as self-proclaimed false pastors. Mt pastors have been intelligent, educated men who lead their congregations thoughtfully with care and love in the word of God.
Jesus said this is my body which will be given up for you , Jesus did give himself up for us so the body he represents in John 6:.. is his body, haven’t you seen the Eucharist miracle in the world?
No one in his catholic community was able to answer his questions based on his testimony, that's the reason he changed religion. I am catholic and also had/have questions, had those questions answered by so many priests/brothers and sisters. I am a roman Catholic and will remain standing and die roman Catholic. Likewise, I have read the bible, yes we read it, and have felt the Holy Spirit have gone to retreats will never say by the word of a person that just doesn't know. I have felt his love in the roman Catholic Church and will remain by his word by heart and practice.
He didnt change religions, he got out of religions. If you expect mary to save you when you die, you better try something else. mary has let her church become a habitation of devils, homosexual priests and lesbian nuns, and Mary hasnt done one thing to change it.
You literally cannot believe the Bible and follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Well, strange. God led me out of this false Church, also by his Word and the Holy Spirit. So....one of us seemed to be fooled.
@@yeshuaisthemessiah8523 i know this church he's talking about right.. so strange
For the good of your NEVER dying soul ask the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation through HIS FINISHED and COMPLETED work for salvation
*"Mike and Jane - if you want to Witness to Catholics, you need to:*
- Show who in the first 1,500 years of Christianity interpreted scripture as you do, that the bread and wine in the bread of life discourse are symbolic or figurative only.
- Explain how could Christendom have error'd so fast, so universally on this point?
- Explain why should one follow the fallible gospel of Mike and not all of Christendom for those first 1,000 plus years?
- Show who in those first 1,000+ years interpreted scripture as you do? Citations only please on every topic that you disagree with the Catholic Church.
- Explain why one should not trust our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who said the Church is the Pillar of Truth, that the Church is the Bulwark of Truth, and that the Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known?
- Explain how Jesus was undependable and that he lied when he said that he would lead his church to ALL truth?
- Do you feel Jesus is not powerful enough nor faithful enough to mean what he said?
- Admit that you are fallible
- Admit that since you are fallible, you could be in error with your personal and fallible interpretation of scripture, and the Catholic Church right.
- Explain how it is that you trust that your New Testament canon is right, when it was decided 100% by the 4th c Catholic Church, Catholic Bishops who would disagree with your interpretation of scripture repeatedly?
- Explain how it is that you believe your Old Testament is right, when those 4th c Bishops said it was 46 writings?
- How is is that you trust them to get the New Testament right, yet they error'd on the Old Testament - and they ALL celebrated the Mass which you reject? (note, there were no protestant churches at the time)
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; 54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him
MIKE is available to answer you personally ...do you want to know how to reach him ??
You can read Calvin’s institutes and in each section he directly refutes catholic teaching. Calvin also cites the fathers often, chiefly Augustine
@@grantearley4472 I have no reason nor interest in reading his institutes. Calvin, a catholic lawyer, had no authority whatsoever to say that the Church established by Jesus Christ errored and didn't even know it, A heretic, he made Jesus out to be undependable and a liar.
Christ is the head of his Church (Col 1: 18)
Christ''s Church is the pillar of truth (1 Tim 3: 15)
Christ's Church is the bulwark of truth. (1 Tim 3: 15)
Christ's Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known. (Eph 3: 10)
*Christ PROMISED to lead it to ALL Truth.* (Jn 16: 13)
Christ PROMISED that he would NEVER leave it. (Mt 28: 20)
Christ PROMISED that the gates of hell would not prevail (it will not teach doctrinal error) ; (Mt 16: 18)
You can try answering the questions posed in my first post, directed to the fallible Church of Gendron.
@@TruthHasSpoken I won’t even get into Luther. Well done. Thank you. I have three priests in my extended family (fourth, nearly - 7 years in seminary but did not continue); and I am always sucked in by my temper. I just find it fascinating, the voracious hatred, anything that came before Protestantism. The Catholic Church is not perfect, we’ve made plenty of mistakes God knows, but it’s like they don’t know anything. Mary is just a woman, you can’t pray to the dead, they can’t pray for you - same arguments, over and over again. And then Calvin becomes a God and Martin Luther becomes a God and John Wesley, becomes a God; and they have their God like pastors and prosperity gospel pastors. I don’t know, I don’t say any one way is the one way but when I look around I just see how much we have, and what they don’t know.
@@eireannemerald1382What you are describing is the fruit of sola scriptura, which was, is, and shall ever be, doctrinal chaos and confusion. Indeed, the Church is full of Sinners. Some - relatively few - have sinned greatly. Yet, despite all the sinful Popes, some too who have sinned greatly, not one ever changed doctrine. This is the promise of Jesus, to lead his Church to ALL (doctrine) Truth and that the gates of hell would not prevail. He protects it from teaching what is false as true.
"anything that came before Protestantism."
This would include the canon of scripture, some 1,100 years before Father Luther and the other deformers. The Catholic Church, decided, declared, the New Testament to have 27 writings, no more, no less, out of 300+ early Christian writings - and the same Church at the same time declared the Old Testament to have 46 writings. The men doing this were all Bishops, all priests as you have in your family. They ALL believed through their words of consecration that the bread and wine transformed in the resurrected Christ, a means for receiving his grace. Protestants, whenever and if they receive the Lords Supper, typically grape juice and bread, receive just that, nothing more. A great reason to be Catholic ... to follow Jesus, to believe him: THIS IS MY BODY.
" I am always sucked in by my temper."
Have to see protestants, most, as what they are, fed by error in their ignorance. The best cure for protestantism is education. The internet is a great means for doing so. It's always interesting how the more educated protestants become Catholic - and the least educated Catholics (those not attending of weekly mass) become protestant.
"what they don’t know"
For many protestants, worship consists of a few songs, a few prayers, and a longer sermon. This is not worship. Joe Heschmeyer has a terrific video here on the subject of what is worship, and not: th-cam.com/video/lg4S1VYac-Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=R-kFzltQIPRU11b_
What is the video you shared with Roman Catholics? I'd love to watch it.
I would also. “Part I: Explain to Catholics that they are heathens and that Catholicism is of the Devil.”
I was raised a JW, accepted Jesus Christ as Lord, and became a redeemed child of God. Much of what he says here resonates, as there are many similarities between Watchtower and the Catholic Church. his testimony motivates me to do more to reach the witnesses.
I am sorry, but that is absurd. Watchtower is a recently-established, insane cult. The Catholic Church contained 100% of Christians for 1500 years. The idea that they are the same is very very silly, with all due respect. Please research what the Catholic Church actually teaches before making false comparisons.
Same, I was raised seventh day Adventist which has a different gospel
@@bbsvchic They're both false religions👍
There is nothing in common between the JW and the Catholic Church.
So glad you got out of the JW cult. Praise God.
I was also raised as a Catholic but I always wanted to have a personal relationship with my maker. While in a good Catholic girls school my thirst led me to questioning the believes and certain unbibiliical rituals practiced by the Catholics. In 1991 I gave my life to Christ and I am have hope for eternal joy in Christ Jesus. Amen.
Well, I encourage you to come back :) God Bless You.
The last super is it biblical? Catholics don't use the term "unbiblical". That's protestant speak. Luther ripped 7 book out of the Jesus bible but that's biblical I guess?
Jesus never spoke ill of the 7 books present in his bible but it was ok for Luther the trash talker to rip them out 1500 years after Jesus. That's real biblical of you.
Your arrogance and pride is sinful in nature. Repent and find Jesus!@@uncatila
She's already back, she doesn't need catholicism@@WhiteBraveheart1
how about you call mike grendon ...🤣🤣🤣@@WhiteBraveheart1
Die hard Catholics (and their culture and history) are among the very hardest to convert to Christianity. I have only known only a handful who are born again, read the Bible and know scripture, and are sincere and love Jesus. Most hold Mary as Co-Redemptress with Jesus.
Catholicism is Christianity started by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. Everything else is a copy of a copy of pseudo beliefs such as Gendron.
The Catholic Church is the one true universal church Jesus Christ instituted.
Covert to Christianity? Wow. Someone didn’t get the memo. Catholicism began with Jesus. Have a good day.
@@eireannemerald1382 No it did not. The first church was made up of Jews. Catholicism began hundreds of years later.
Catholics are the original Christians.
Great message....its all Jesus...
Thank you Mike Gendron. God bless you.
Saved by the grace of GOD,just like myself.
Amen 🙏
We are saved by His grace
BTW I'm catholic and Mr Mike never knew His church before he left
@@DUZCO10 I myself was a catholic
Then GOD saved me from the man centered
Religion of Catholicism.
@savedbygrace8337 its interesting, people call the catholic church "man made" but if you look at the history of ALL churches you will see that a man founded each church. The church you are at split from another church who also split from another before it. ALL EXCEPT ONE: His holy catholic church. His church did not split from any other church. Jesus started one church. Mat 16 18. The catholic church is the original church. Catholics are the early Christians. The remains of the apostles are in catholic churches ⛪️
Really, truly pray and think about that
@@DUZCO10 1 Timothy 2:5
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
NOT MARY,JESUS!
Isaiah 2:8
“Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:”
NOT STATUES JESUS
Matthew 6:7
“But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.”
NOT ROSARYS .
@@DUZCO10 Catholicism say that
Mary was immaculately conceived,
Born without sin,could you give me a Bible verse that I can verify that with?
Something as earth shattering as that,
For the first time in human history even
Predating the birth of JESUS
Someone was born without sin and there is no mention of it ? Even in the catholic bible?
Enlighten me if you will
Book ,chapter,and verse please!
,
1 Tim 3:15...The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth
Costi/Mike - how do you explain the thinking of those Protestants that go back to the Roman church - the doctrine of purgatory should be enough in itself to halt any such action but there’s web sites that highlight the rush back - even pastors - it just amazes me that people could be so stupid - imagine going back to worship Mary, - any explanation please
That’s one of the biggest misconceptions.. that Catholics worship Mary, big difference between worship and honor… right up there with” praying to the dead”. Work and pray to seek understanding before condemning.
Protestants will gloss right past Josua laying down before the Ark of the Covenant and praying to God but they will always have a problem with a Catholic kneeling in front of a Crucifix in Church. But that's the undiscussed error. Protestants generally know very little of the Bible and only focus on the few verses that fit into the man-made doctrine. Catholicism has ALL of the Bible since the Catholic Church put the Bible together. Add that to Protestants being lied to by other Protestants about what the Church actually teaches and they are the lost sheep scattered into thousands of little gatherings.
@basil5641 Catholics seek her help as a translator to God to hear their prayers. The Bible says Jesus is the only way. No one goes to the Father but through Him.
No one should pray to Saints, we can honor they're life, sure, but all who call upon the name of the Lord become saints. We accept the will of God for our life, just as Mary and Abraham and Isaac did. We have the Bible to read and study and give example of the hardships to come, as believers, as examples and strength but not to pray to.
Mama Mary is the best intercessor between me & Jesus… i dun worship her i adore her coz she is the Mother of Jesus…a mother’s prayer is powerful one, what more if it is from our heavenly mama. mama mary intercede our prayers to her Son, she brought us closer & closer to her Son, she initiated Jesus first miracle in the wedding in Cana, even Jesus say it not His time yet, but Jesus did the miracle anyways, why? because Mama Mary ask Him too, His mother… I venerate her coz she is the queen of heaven …. the best bridge to Jesus, coz i know Jesus will not turn His mama like in Cana …. but i do not depend on just Mama mary…. i do pray direct to Jesus too.. its just that sometime & most of the time I do need my heavenly mama to help to pray for me to…. BUT NO I DO NOT WORSHIP MAMA MARY….
the video he shared to disciple..where can i get it pls? 🙏 im a former catholic too and felt so deceived ..praise God for saving a wretched like me..and for unveiling my eyes🎉❤
The universal church started by Christ and passed on by the Apostles .Didn't start with the Calvinist Church Mike prescribes to. Your deception is of your own making.
@@jgood6088 u dont know my story.. my personal encounter with Jesus.. how He showed Himself to me, literally leading me out fromH a Catholic church i used to go to..u probly wont believe it either because ur heart is hardened..He was the one who led me to His church.. He opened my eyes to the Truth
@@jgood6088so where is the proof that catholic is the universal church? beast evidence is written.. Nowhere in the Bible that Jesus or anyone said that
Jesus did not find a church nor did he built on the back of Peter. @@jgood6088
Have you ever listened to the conversion story of a protestant pastor who became Catholic? They are so different! Instead of misinterpreting teachings and straw-manning arguments (like Mr. Gendron here), they clearly explain what the opposing side believes and then offer strong, charitable, and Scriptural arguments for their conversion. Just look at the stories of Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. Michael Bales, or Dr. John Bergsma for example. I'm praying for your Mike! You never really knew your Faith. Come back home!
John Bergen’s is a great example; so is Mark Griodi (started the Catholic channel, Journey Home); also, Keith Nester.
What I'd like to hear is how y'all justify the evils ofvthe RCC that is defended. Just the basic history of the greed for power & keep the Roman empire that fell. The compromises during Constantine mingling pagan doctrine & rituals because pagans wanted to adopt Christianity like Constantine, the long list of pope's that committed such sexual immorality atrocities, persecutions, tortures, murders, selling of indulgences, keeping scripture from the people forbidding it & punishing those who had & read it, the inquisitions and the pedifilia that gets covered up. How can one attribute this physical church to Jesus?
because catholics are rarely taught of the basis of their teaching, catholics rarely read their bible and just blindly follow "TrADitiOn" 😂😂😂
These comment are amazing, I can't believe the amount of support for the Catholic Church. Is there some sort of Catholic revival on the horizon. Remember wonders will be made reality when we all walk in Christ in the same step and beat. Use the church to organise it a gift from God and don't forget to fed her.
There was a bishop in charge of a seminary downtown Milan. He started receiving complaints from young women that his students were making cat calls at them. So he brought them all together to give them a stern talking to. Half way thru the talk he started balling like a baby. He later became a saint. St Pius X
Again Mike, yes you have to church every Sabbath which means you have to go every week, going to church every week falls under the commandment of you shall keep the Sabbath holy
Why did God start the church on a Sunday?
@@jlewis8145 i said the Sabbath not Sunday, but if I had to get technical Saturday is the Sabbath and Sunday is the Lords day celebrating our saviors resurrection
@@jlewis8145 ridiculous --- it's the finished and COMPLETED work of the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation
"Baptism now saves you." -- The Apostle Peter
You forgot the rest of the verse… “not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,”
- 1 Peter 3:21
@@hollybooth6946 Thank you. You've made my point for me.
The Catholic Church holds that the Bible is the only God-breathed source of authority, and that the whole of the Church is under the authority of the Word of God. I'm not sure if all Protestant traditions hold that to be doctrinal, because I have only encountered a limited number of Protestant movements. But I respect how most Protestants see the Bible as profoundly authoritative.
I belonged to a Christian and Missionary Alliance parish, an Evangelical Bible group in the past, about 15 years ago. We would study the Bible in small groups and we were led by two things: Protestant tradition and radical subjectivity -- or, you could say, opinion. If we disagreed about the meaning of an important passage and its doctrinal implications, there was no authority to appeal to, except, perhaps, our pastor -- but he, himself, would not have identified as a binding authority on the conscience. If we were confused about the interpretation of the Bible, we could only turn to the Bible to interpret the confusion.
This rarely worked.
As far as obvious matters, this was fine. We all believed that Jesus was the true Messiah, that he taught, worked miracles, died for our sins and rose again in glory. But in terms of areas in dispute, both historical and contemporary, it was every man or woman for themselves.
In practice, the more educated, the more forceful, the more emotional or the more determined exegesis of Scripture won out in the end, and we submitted and left it there. But there was a chaos, a disorder about this that I sensed was not from God.
Being Christians, being human, we hungered for Truth. And for not just any Christ, but the True Christ. We did not realize that we were depending on the authority of Church Councils, Papal declarations, the Church Fathers and the Body of Christ over centuries, carrying on Sacred Tradition, which is the living and authentic and authoritative reading of Scripture. So much we took for granted.
Finally, I had to accept the source of authority, and that it was necessary to have it, to teach and believe what we do as a Church. Because Scripture is transparent, perspicuous in many ways, but in many ways it is not. Without a teacher to step in and say: this is truth, once and for all, so many essential matters would not have been defined and heresies like the Nestorians, Marcionites or Pelagians would have controlled the Church, at various moments in history.
If you've made this far, I will challenge you with a question: In the 5 centuries of the Church, can you name one historical figure, one saint, one historian that did not teach that baptism is regenerative, and in that crucial sense it saves?
@@PaxMundi118 If I was baptized secretly while I was an infant and never knew I was baptized, How would I know as an adult I am saved? If your a Roman Catholic, you couldn’t know, you would have to assume you we’re never baptized. But if you were a Christian, you would know if you repented and put all your trust in Christ for salvation.
@@Wgaither1 I can answer your question, but you are deflecting all the points I made and the two straightforward questions I asked by asking a separate question.
How about you engage with what I said, or at least engage with one of the two questions (either one, but they do connect) before I give you a response?
Nevermind, here you go: the answer is fairly simple: if you believe in Christ and do not know you are baptized, get baptized ASAP.
If you have received a legitimate Trinitarian baptism, and you change church traditions, do not get re-baptized, it is offensive.
Mike, what a revelation you will have coming!
Idk how he can say he heard very little of the Bible during his time as a Catholic. Each mass covers a part of the Old and New Testament along with responsorial Pslams and the Eucharist and Communion which also contains scripture. Also, the Eucharist is done in remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice. It’s not repeated every mass because His original sacrifice was not enough but in remembrance of it. It puts us in the shoes of the apostles. Even Jesus said to do it in remembrance of Him. Repetition helps us remember.
He is ignorant and is trying to deceive others as he has been deceived. That’s all there is to it.
this is the learn new protestants, how the Catholics don’t run the Bible and have nothing to do with the Bible blah blah blah blah, blah blah. It’s sort of like learning the basics of anything and calling yourself a master
@@johnsteila6049 That's an incredibly uncharitable way of looking at it, but I get it, Gendron's attacks on Catholicism must feel as personal to devout Catholics as someone saying bad things about one's own family, since I've heard that for devout Catholics the church feels like a family.
Call him a heretic if you want but you don't know his heart, and I feel he's sincere even if he might be wrong, only God knows whether he's either or both, and when you judge him like this you sound just as accusatory to Protestants as you must feel he is towards Catholics.
How is Gendron supposed to be more ecumenical if he really believes Catholics are deceived?
It's painful for me too when some ultra-conservative Catholics say Protestants are going to hell, but if they don't attack the character of Protestants, I'd rather they share what they truly believe than hide it to be conciliatory, as painful as it might be. Isn't it fair for this to go both ways?
Thanks for your courage & straight forward speach God will bless you for speaking truth a bout the false doctrine & false teachings .
Doesn't take much courage lying . Mike is a disgruntled Catholic , but hey now he's got a church like countless others claiming their version of Biblical Truth.
@@jgood6088 you need Jesus. Mike's checking God's message by reading his word. If you need other books for your religion, then you are not following the Word of God. Praying for you. 🙏
We not only read the Gospel we accept everything the Gospel proclaims especially the Sacrament of the Body, blood , soul and divinity of Jesus found only in the Catholic Church as the eucharist , the bread of life.
@@MsMelvindoo "Mike's checking God's message by reading his word."
So you're implying "upon this rock ( Mike ) I will build my Church"?
Mike is nothing more than a disgruntled un -informed former Catholic , by the way from a devout Catholic Family that rejects Mikes bigoted propaganda.
If any persons need prayers it's not only Mike but all ill informed Christians understanding the Fullness of the Christian faith only found in the Catholic Church .
The same Church that protected and passed on for Centuries the Word , including but not limited to the New Testament books no post Reformation Christian ever had a say in what those Books were or were not considered Inspired.
Thats just Christian history and the only Church at the time was the Catholic Church. You won't find non-denominational, Lutherans , Southern or those countless other Baptist and the list go on snd on.
I'm converting in the opposite direction and feel he's been deceived by strawman arguments. Now I see what is meant by the phrase: strong protestants become catholic, weak catholics become protestant.
A lot of truth to that statement
Its very eye opening that only catholics are so concerned with denominations. Its clear satan has a strong influence and has planted the sin of Pride deep in their hearts believing their own traditions and men to be superior to the word of God. Only Catholics get so offended and become so full of vile hatred at the though of others being protestant rather than catholic. Their sin is deep rooted and blinds them to the truth of God,.
So which of the 30,000+ protestant sects get it right?
The ones who have the best light shows and acoustic guitar music and can make people clap and sway to the music. Those are REAL churches. 😁
Seriously look at your leader now he's blessing gay marriage.... you really should read the Bible.
@@chadlee243 I've read it more than you, punkin'. And you never answered the question.
All of them, because none of them disagree on the cause of salvation, which is faith alone by the grace of God. If any one disagrees on this point, they are not Protestant
@@eireannemerald1382you’d ridicule people for praising the Lord with what they have?
I've always been Protestant. I recently researched the apocripha. Except for one briefly mentioned Catholic issue, I found no Catholic teachings in the apocripha. It's mostly history. Although it's not God-inspired, I found a few legitimate issues to discuss. Catholics value the apocripha, that's why they're included in their Bibles. But in the book of Burach chapter 6, Jeremiah CONDEMNS bowing to statues; verses 24, "There is no spirit in them"; 28, "They are not Gods, do not fear them"; 41, Jeremiah says people who do that "have no sense"; 49, "statues can not save themselves from wars nor disasters". -- One issue that's answered for me is, Moses mentioned the use of a divorce certificate, but a marriage certificate is not mentioned in the standard 66 books; but it IS mentioned in Tobit 7: (13).
Mike, you're a good man, and you did good work in the Catholic Church. Yet, your understanding of what priests were telling you and what the Catholic Church is telling you about faith, salvation, and the Bible is unfortunately a misunderstanding. Your uncle the priest is correct: Have you read James 2:17 - 26? Faith is shown by works. Without works, our faith is dead. That is what the Catholic Church teaches.
This is what Christianity teaches too. Not that our works save us, but that w/ our faith, this will result in good works, out of love and gratefulness to God for our redemption. The problem is w/ all the beliefs in needing to work off temporal sin. You ask for forgiveness, and it is apparently granted, but then you must do penance. Even then there is a residue and buildup of temporal sin, so that you have to spend time suffering to burn off your sin in purgatory. This nullifies Christ's atonement. I know Catholics don't believe in a limited atonement like Calvinists, but that might as well be a limited atonement.
It’s not a misunderstanding. I have met many Catholics who all say the same things
Faith is shown by works, but works are not required in order to have faith. Otherwise, works would precede faith. Where you catholics get things wrong is in your chronology of events. It goes faith -> works, not the other way around. You put the cart before the horse. We know that faith is the cause of salvation because the thief on the cross, having no good works, but having faith, was saved. Countless verses in the Bible describe salvation apart from works, yet you all wave a single misinterpreted verse in James like a triumphant flag. The passage in James is supposed to show the utility of faith in serving those around you and the fact that works evidence your faith, as you’ve said. But you don’t hear your own words. Works evidence salvation. They do not cause it
@TheChadPad don't confuse yourself if you don't have good deeds (works) can that faith save you? Regardless of the order in which you want it in the end you need good works because guess what that's how all of us are going to be judged revelation 20:13...
Praying = good work
Reading the Bible = good work
Sharing the Gospel = good work
Getting baptized = good work
A good work is an act of faith, it is the act of being faithful. One does not precede the other, they are not opposed or even separated. To believe is a part of faith but you must also proclaim Jesus as your savior, repent and obey His commandments to the best of your abilities. The gospel urges us to try, because real faith urges us to walk in good works. Faith is partly defined by works. They are interconnected as the heart is a necessary vital organ as part of your body. Faith without works is dead. Don't be blinded by a hardened heart. Read the Bible. If you love Jesus, the Truth matters.
Blessed to Be A Catholic, than Poorly Catechized Catholic like Mike Gendron. Praying for Mike
Funny how he reads the Bible and you read catholic propaganda. The catechism says Mary was co mediator in verse 969 do you believe that?
I know he’s ignorant because he keeps say
Roman Catholic
It’s actually Catholic, there’s
Byzantine Catholic
Melkite Catholic
26 rites of the Catholic Church
-The Catholic Church is the organization that decides what books made up the New Testament. Why would you or this man follow the the Mew Testament knowing it came from the Catholic Church you shall enter the kingdom of heaven.”
Lastly NOWHERE in the Catholic Church is there a doctrine that days you good works must out do your bad works to make it to heaven
Jesus said. “Amen amen I say to you unless you eat and drink of my 🎉body and blood
I was also a catholic and I asked God for so many months for guidance and truth and abiding in His word He literally started responding my questions. From why we shouldn’t pray to anybody else except through Jesus, about the real gospel, about following tradition vs. following Him. (Mark 7).
Also about idolatry, which isn’t exclusive to Catholicism because I believe all churches could have idols.
The difference is that it is so much more difficult to abandon the idols in Catholicism because people don’t think they’re idols in any way, they tend to twist verses without knowing Scripture and repeat what others told them without true conviction and guidance from the Hoky Spirit. John 16:13-15
What is your definition of an idol? An idol is a false god. The saints in Catholics are not idols because they are not false gods. The saints are people whose souls are now in heaven. Many of them are martyrs for the sake of Jesus.
Pray the truth of the gospel is revealed to many. Relationship w Christ will set you free.
The Catholic Church gets the best and brightest that Protestantism has ever produced:
Cardinal John Henry Newman
G.K. Chesterton
Cardinal Avery Dulles
Fr. Richard John Neuhaus
Dr. Peter Kreeft
Dietrich Von Hildebrand
Dr. Taylor Marshall
Thomas Merton (Celebrated Trappist Monk)
Bishop John Lipscomb
Bishop Jeffrey Stevenson
Steve Ray
Dr. Robert Sungenis
Ulf Ekman (Swedish Founder of Word of Faith Evangelical Society)
Dr. Scott Hahn (Valedictorian Gordon Conwell Seminary)
Bishop Richard Pain (Diocese of Monmouth)
Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali
Deacon Alex Jones
Mark Galli (Editor of Christianity Today and former pastor)
Let's say--as a hypothetical--that the Vatican (with the Pope), the college of cardinals, archbishops, bishops, and parish priests suddenly vanished. Would there still be a Catholic Church? To answer "yes" would be to imply that the aforementioned are essentially unnecessary. And you would be left as simply a follower of Jesus Christ, part of a local body of faithful believers, lead by mature elders and teachers, who know the Scriptures and have been regenerated by the Spirit.
@@mchristr You don't understand the Catholic Church. I don't even understand it as the Church teaches: it is a bride, a mystery, salvation, a building, a lover, an Ark, a light to the nations, etc., Catholic ecclesiology is one of the most difficult theological subjects to get your mind around.
@@WhiteBraveheart1 I appreciate your response. My critique is not with the mystical Church (rationality ultimately fails when describing transcendent things) but rather with how the Church (Church militant if you will) exists as a practical entity.
I realize that Roman Catholics and non-Catholics often talk past each other. But that is because the very bedrock of salvation is at stake. A Catholic would say that there is no salvation apart from the Church, while a non-Catholic would say that it is the Gospel, illuminated by the Holy Spirit, that saves. I'm fine with that tension.
@@mchristr The Church would still exist and the See of Peter would be in an interregnum period. Same as when a Pope dies. And whatever and by whatever means a bishop who ends up being the bishop of Rome would be the Pope. Cardinals and conclaves are simply the current means for the new Pope to emerge. If the Pope wanted to, he could appoint his successor.
@@mchristr Your hypothetical is Biblically impossible.
But nice try. And because of that, those so called non-hypothetical left over body of faithful believers, Anyone can say they have been regenerated by the Spirit and start their own Church . Sorry your hypothetical doesn't work.
I am surprised how ignorant he is of the catholic faith, The catholic church teaches we are saved by grace alone not by works, but he seems so sincere.
Alexisisabella, it is his disbelief that turned to hatred. Breaks my heart.
Watch "5 Miracles Which Prove The Catholic Church Is The One True Church!!"
Lifetime evangelical here converting to Catholicism. Feels like coming home and I’m thankful. God is after the heart, but when it comes to church, the Catholic Church has MASSIVE claim on authority… Once I started to be fair to Catholicism and put aside my bias, all I saw was beauty and the grace of God.
Nice • sweet Jesus
How did you conclude this “massive claim on authority” is more reasonable than the protestant position?
@@theodorebe
Protestant position is 30,000 different positions. They have no unity.
Catholics have 1 pope.
Catholics have 2000yrs of continuous history.
@@theodorebe They had the authority to put the Bible together for one thing.
@@gerry30 that’s another empty claim
never rejected the faith I needed conversion. I stumbled upon a book by Francis DeSales "THE CATHOLIC Controversy"
HE Evangelized 72000 FORMER Catholics during the reformation times. The tracts are 3 and 4 pages long. I encourage any Christian to read this. It really educated me on points of dogma disputed by Luther and the rest. All 72000 returned to the Church. This is amazing still.😊
St Francis de Sales • Jan 24th
Doctor of the Church
Faith without works is dead! Works are important. Being good means we are following the Ten Commandments! Following the 10 commandments mean we are trying to be good! The opposite is being bad. Not following the 10 commandments and being bad. Thank God we have confession where the Lord forgives sins. We also have the Eucharist which is the BODY, BLOOD, SOUL, AND DIVINITY OF JESUS. CHRIST. Jesus said unless you eat my body and drink my blood you shall not have everlasting life. I suggest you read about the early fathers-St. Augustine and Aquinas! I have witnessed many Protestant pastors that joined the Catholic faith after reading about the church fathers. You definitely need to read about the church fathers! You are definitely now deceived! The Eucharist is necessary for salvation!
I was a devout Romanist all my life and got saved at the age of 19 after the reading the Gospel of John. Romanism and Biblical Christianity couldn't be any further from one another.
Your comment is an evidence of you being poorly catechized. The Catholic Church is NOT only roman but there are also many rites such as byzantine, syrian, maronite and latin/roman but all of these rites. Doing more research, studying the cathecism, the early church fathers(they've written how the earliest christians worship) and rereading the bible will help you immensely learn more and better understand about the teachings of the Catholic Church.
"after the reading the Gospel of John"
And you reject God's Written Word below, based on the fallible teachings of 16th c men:
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us *his flesh* to eat?”
53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you *eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood,* you have no life in you;
54 he who eats *my flesh* and drinks *my blood* has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For *my flesh* is food indeed, and *my blood* is drink indeed.
56 He who eats *my flesh* and drinks *my blood* abides in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who *eats me* will live because of me.
When the evangelical denomination celebrates the Lord's Supper, if and when it does, it usually has grape juice and bread. That's ALL it ever is, nothing more. When one realizes how novel of a teaching this is, that it can be traced to a 16th Catholic lawyer named Calvin, the intellect can begin to comprehend the error.
"got saved at the age of 19 "
You got saved scripturally when your Catholic parents baptized you, receiving the indwelling of God within you and sanctifying grace, lost in the sin of Adam.
Jesus left a Church not a book, I can not find any scripture where Jesus send to his disciples to write a book about his life....
Amen. After being with rome in years past I'm blessed to be a saved, born again Christian now. God bless you all wherever you are in your walk with the Lord.
You were Born Again scripturally when you were baptized. My writeup below.
*The Old Testament Prefigures a greater New Testament reality: The Waters of Baptism are Salvific.*
- Noah and his family were saved by the water and cleansed humanity of sin, the Ark representing the Church.
- The Israelites were saved by water from Pharaoh’s army crossing the sea
- The Israelites were again saved by water when Moses struck the Rock
*God foretells his Spirit would someday reside not in Jerusalem’s temple built by man but within mankind himself:*
_25 I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. 26 A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will take out of your flesh the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances (Ez 36)._
*St John the Baptist says that Jesus would come baptizing with the Holy Spirit:*
_“I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry; he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire_ (Mat 3:11).
_I myself did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit’_ (Jn 1:33).
*St Paul speaks to the New Testament fulfillment, through Baptism, our body being the temple of God’s Spirit.*
_Do you not know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit within you, which you have from God (1 Cor 6:19)?_
*We receive the Holy Spirit through baptism, the external washing by water signifying (a sign, a symbol, but not a sign or symbol only) of an interior spiritual change within us.*
*Born Anew (Again) - through baptism, we are “born again” scripturally*
_3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicode′mus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit [baptism], he cannot enter the kingdom of God (Jn 3: 3,5)._
*Regenerated and Justified - All Sacraments are means of receiving his Grace (we are saved by Grace)*
_when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit, 6 which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life (Titus 3: 4-7)._
*Sanctified - the exterior sign of water signifies the interior spiritual change through baptism.*
_11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God (1 Cor 6: 11)._
*Baptism Restores Sanctifying Grace and Cleanses Us of ALL Personal Sins*
_And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name (Acts 22: 16).”_
*Baptism Saves Us - by having the Spirit of God in us; God can’t be any more explicit*
- _“Truly, truly, unless one is born of water and the Spirit [baptism], he cannot enter the kingdom of God (Jn 3: 5).”_
- _Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Pet 3: 21)._
- _He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned_ (Mk 16: 16; believing / having faith means to follow all that Christ commanded. He commanded that Christians be baptized as a means of receiving his grace)
*Note, I can cite Christian men for this whole time period who taught exactly what scripture teaches. Examples below.*
“Moreover, the things proceeding from the waters were blessed by God, that this also might be a sign of men’s being destined to receive repentance and remission of sins, through the water and laver of regeneration,-as many as come to the truth, and are born again, and receive blessing from God.” Theopilus of Antioch, To Autolycus, 2: 16 (A.D. 181).
*Worth repeating: How is does one receive repentance and remission of sins .... through the water and spirit (the laver or regeneration). BAPTISM.*
“[W]hen they come to us and to the Church which is one, ought to be baptized, for the reason that it is a small matter to ‘lay hands on them that they may receive the Holy Ghost,’ unless they receive also the baptism of the Church. For then finally can they be fully sanctified, and be the sons of God, if they be born of each sacrament; since it is written, ‘Except a man be born again of water, and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’…[O]nly baptism of the holy Church, by divine regeneration, for the kingdom of God, may be born of both sacraments, because it is written, ‘Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.'” Cyprian, To Stephen, 71: 72 (A.D. 253).
“We are circumcised not with a fleshly circumcision but with the circumcision of Christ, that is, we are born again into a new man; for, being buried with Him in His baptism, we must die to the old man, because the regeneration of baptism has the force of resurrection.” Hilary of Poitiers, Trinity, 9: 9 (A.D. 359).
“This then is what it is to be born again of water and of the Spirit, the being made dead being effected in the water, while our life is wrought in us through the Spirit. In three immersions, then, and with three invocations, the great mystery of baptism is performed, to the end that the type of death may be fully figured, and that by the tradition of the divine knowledge the baptized may have their souls enlightened. It follows that if there is any grace in the water, it is not of the nature of the water, but of the presence of the Spirit.” Basil, On the Spirit, 15: 35 (A.D. 375).
Where are all those early Christians preaching the fallible Church of Gendron?
You will return. I promise.
Before that you converted, have you read the Catechism?
@@luissalazar6960 They didn’t
read anything. They didn’t ask questions. They didn’t go on retreat or speak with a priest before making their decison to leave the Chirch Our Lady, the Eucharist and the Saints. Instead, they listened to the screaming-Jesus preacher or some other denomination who convinced them that the Holy Eucharist is false and has no meaning; that Our Lady is just a woman who gave birth to Jesus but has no
role in Heaven or i redemption of a kind; and that the catholic church is false and is related to paganism. Sad.
@@luissalazar6960 She should got to RCIA and research. Big they think it’s easier to listen to these anti-Catholic channels and find answers
Every time I heard Mike Gendron it's the same story; I was a Catholic for 35 years... or was it 37 years? I had a big, dusty Bible that sat on my coffee table, and I never read it because some priests, allegedly, told me I was too stupid to understand it. However, I finally read it, and without any guidance reached my own conclusion about the scriptures like the 30,000 other denominations around the world. This dude could have been raised a Baptist, Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Mennonite, Lutheran, Anglican, Unitarian, etc... and had the exact same experience.
The two pillars of the protestant reformation are faith alone, and scripture alone, neither of which are even mentioned in the Bible
*📜 John.17:* 17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
*📜 Jeremiah.7:* 3This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says:
Reform your ways and your actions, and I will let you live in this place.
4Do not trust in deceptive words and say, “This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord!”
...17Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
18The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven.
They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger.
19But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?
*📜 Matthew.7:*
20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
*📜 Ecclesiastes.1:*
8All things are wearisome,
more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing.
9What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
*📜 1Corinthians.10:*
11These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come.
12So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall!
13No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind.
And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
14Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry.
*📜 Mark.13:*
23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
*📜 1Corinthians.2:*
1And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.
2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words,
but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power,
5so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.
*📜 John.16:*
13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
14He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.
15All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
*📜 1Peter.4:*
11If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God.
If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.
@@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx None of your quotes have anything to do with either faith alone, and scripture alone.
In fact, the ONLY time in ALL of scripture that the words faith and alone are side by side, scripture says:
_24 You see that a man is justified by works [of love, not the Old Testament law] and not by faith alone._ (Ja 2)
When one is JUSTIFIED, made right with God, one is 100% savd.
@@TruthHasSpoken
📜 1Corinthians.2:1And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.
2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling.
4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power,
5so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.
@@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx I agree with everything you quoted, yet ... "None of your quotes have anything to do with either faith alone, and scripture alone."
6:20 For Mike Gendron:
The priest told you you shouldn't even try to read the Bible ... if that's the case, I suppose you were involved with some other priest when the Bible was acquired?
For all those years, why did you not question why some other priest had approved the acquisition?
He was in bondage of sin. That’s a reason to blame a religion and not take ownership of your actions. So he had a Bible in his own home that he decided on his own not to pick up but he picked up the Protestant version of the Catholic bible. A rocket scientist….hmmm….no wonder we haven’t gone to the moon.
I felt sorry for this poor Mike. He left the true church and joined the protestant group - a church with incomplete syllabus. They pick the items which are convenient for them and left out so many facts about Christ teachings and the apostles.
Your “true” church is now being lead by a non Christian.
What teachings are you talking about?
So heartwarming and true.
Catholics research Mike Gendren ex priest who found Jesus your soul could depend on it
Amen Jesus for finding the truth 👏
A priest told u not to read the BIBLE? Or u just weren’t interested?
There are a lot of priests that don't read the Bible.. it's the truth. There was even a time in history that the Catholic church discouraged the people from reading their bibles: "The Church actually discouraged the populace from reading the Bible on their own -- a policy that intensified through the Middle Ages and later, with the addition of a prohibition forbidding translation of the Bible into native languages." Check Catholic history.
based on the way they preach, this is highly believable.
❤
No offense to Mike, but a quick google search tells you this, “Catholic soteriology (salvation theology) is rooted in apostolic Tradition and Scripture and says that it is only by God's grace-completely unmerited by works-that one is saved. The Catholic Church teaches that it's God's grace from beginning to end which justifies, sanctifies, and saves us.” … Catholics don’t believe, as Mike thinks, you are saved by works. Honestly, I’m still searching for a conversion story of somebody who actually understood their Catholic faith (factually speaking) and then converted… Mike is simply not one of those people.
For those of you who are considering leaving the Catholic Church or who may already have left, I encourage you to do a quick search on videos of all the thousands of Protestant pastors who have converted to the Catholic faith. And then ask yourself why all these leaders (who actually understood what Protestants believed) decided to join the Catholic Church. Disclaimer: The truth is out there (be careful or you may decide to become Catholic as well)!
There is only one reason to be Catholic, because its true. Mr. Gendron is lost and he should pray for truth in his life.
that sounds like something the devil would say… Jesus said I am the TRUTH. And you just put your religion above him… So who is really the one living a lie bill..
@@WatchmanINC Gendron.
He’s not lost. He is still a Christian which is what matters. Catholic or Protestant we should all shut up about who’s right and focus on showing the world our love which God has given us.
@@Jooxy23 Mike is lost as in lost in misinformation. Mikes vocal attacks on Catholicism lack Truth. Its not love to support someone in lies.
He doesn't really fully understand the Catholic teaching I'd say. We don't re-sacrifice Jesus. We don't believe that we can outweigh our sins with good deeds. No tradition oposes scripture.
None of the church is based on scripture.
Who are the saints of Revelation 14:12 , those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus?
All believers.
@@RS54321 The Bible is clear on the matter. It is *THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THEIR FAITH IN JESUS* .
Therefore be careful to keep the commandments of God, including Sabbath, and keep your faith in Jesus. Those who teach you not to keep God's commandments lead you astray. Those who tell you not to keep faith in Jesus lead you astray
@@tlav1875 Exactly-all believers, like I said.
@@RS54321 Yeah, plenty of believers don't keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Most do not follow the commandments of God. Like how many believers do you know who hate God's Sabbath but love the catholic lord's day (Sunday) because the popes say so. Many believe but don't keep faith in Jesus (Jews for example). Jesus warned us against lawlessness, iniquity.
DID I JUST DISCARD MY COMMENT?
dang, i'll rewrite tmrrw hopefully this time i'll send it...
Thank you for sharing the truth Mike, i was a Catholic as well and i exchanged my religion for a relationship with Jesus Christ. I learned all these same things reading the Bible. Many things that i was being taught all contradicted the Bible. One of the biggest verses for me was Colossians 2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the traditions of men, according to the elementary principles of the world rather than according to Christ.
I have been born again, i am a new creation in Christ. I have been redeemed and transformed into the image of Christ.
🙏🏼
You need to follow up with a good Catholic apologist. Also a good understanding of the Bible and its origin as well. Who was it that discerned that Colossians was the Inspired Word of God? Answer: The Catholic Church. And if you believe the books of the Bible is infallibly a collection of inerrant writings. Who was it that decided on it? You don't have that answer in the Bible. So any authority to put the Bible together has to be an infallible authority given by God to men and you have to have faith in that belief that is not in the Bible itself. So, Colossians 2:8 actually applies to "Bible Alone" Christianity because bible alone is a man-made tradition and a "vain fallacy" of do it yourself that is against what Paul taught.
@@gerry30 Good can, and does,, use people who are not hiis people, to accomplish his will.. Just because they agreed on the canon, in no ways means this church is being Guided by God in the rest of the nonsense they d
@@nomadicrecovery1586 That's a non-biblical belief on your part though. So it can't be used to support the "bible alone" practice.
“I just know Jesus and the CHURCH are one.”
St Joan of Arc
And the church is believers in Jesus who have repented (according to Jesus).
@@oldplace2844 the church is hierarchical.
You can’t listen to a group of believers
She just 'knew' this, eh? What church was she referring to, and where does God confirm this?
@@RS54321
There was only one church in her day.
The Roman Catholic Church. 1430ad.
There’s only one church now.
The Roman Catholic Church.
All others are fake.
Where does God say this ?
Jesus said in Mt 16
“I will build MY CHURCH”
church is singular. Jesus said in
Mt 18. If your brother won’t listen to the
CHURCH, treat him as an outsider.
Church is singular. Jesus said in
Jn 17. Father let them be one.
Singular. Reason also confirms there should be one church.
@@RS54321 Also, what church burned her at the stake?
(Yes I know it was the English authorities who did this, but back then Church and state were one, no hiding behind this "it was the secular authorities" B.S., I like it when Catholic apologists own up to the fact that the church burned heretics instead of pretending it didn't happen. They make more opportunities for mutual understanding possible with greater honesty, and I'm very thankful for that).
There is a crisis in the Protestant faith
The weakness in the Protestant faith is the lack of confession! This has diluted its power and ability to save the lost. The churches are now full of unrepentant sinners. Saved by grace is no longer understood!
We can go boldly unto the throne of grace, by passing your priests.
@jamisonharris9869 Exactly. The vale was torn and we have direct access to God. We can confess directly to Him. We do NOT have to go to a priest to confess. Nowhere does scripture say to pray to Mary or who they perceive to be saints. Mary clearly had other children. The rock Jesus built His church on is the fact He is Christ. That is what the gates of hell will.never prevail against. He is the cornerstone. Not Peter.
An aerial view of Our Lady of the Assumption Church after the Aug. 6, 1945, bombing. A small group of priests can be seen standing in the road in front of the church. (photo: Public Domain) Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. So what chance do you have.
Thank you for this bit of history. recently, after the devastating fires in Maui, the news showed the only building left standing was the Catholic Church.
“… devout Catholic…”: Mike was never a devout Catholic. He taught Pelagianism to those students, not Catholic theology. And going to Mass daily isn’t even a requirement of the faith; the requirement is once a week, Sunday worship. Mike portrays the Catholic view as good works outweighing bad, but that isn’t even what we believe. We believe that justification is by grace and nothing which precedes it, faith or works, merits justification; it is freely given in Baptism! Reread Titus 3.5, Mike! And Mary is “another sinless mediator?” What do you mean “another?” The Church does not teach that priests are sinless. You are deceived Mike!
I think he’s referring to Jesus being the other mediator
I agree with you though!!
@@laurenmcnichol5311 Yes indeed. Priest acting as mediators between man and God is heresy.
Timothy 2:5 NASV - "For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time."
@@kdjones5149 Yes this was one of his poorest recitations of his understanding of Catholic soteriology here, but I've seen numerous other videos with him where he presents the correct soteriology, namely Baptism, Confirmation, the Eucharist for venial sins, Confession for mortal sins, working out one's salvation with fear and trembling, etc...
You might be the first Gendron basher I've seen so far that provided specific examples that actually have to do with soteriology (the main thing he's obsessed with, and rightly so), and I agree he was sloppy in this interview for some reason, but watch other videos of him and this is one of the only times he's this sloppy.
We have to understand that there is a hardness of heart with people who criticize the Catholic Church. When we offer explanations, they either melt away or continue to insist that they are right. We just need to keep on praying for them.
Jesus promises ETERNAL LIFE to those who eat His flesh and drink His blood. You’ve walked away from the Eucharist! So sad. You say u read through John 4? READ John 6.
Only in pagan religions do they eat the blood and body of their god.
ie. Mithraism
I know for sure that my sins have been forgiven.
I know that I have eternal life and will live forever with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You should read the Bible and learn the truth.
I am a Catholic and am not questioning my faith but enjoying my faith. Knowing that Jesus is my LORD and Savior is my greatest joy.
What you dear brothers are doing is called sheep stealing. And that's a sin. I pray that you will come to know the truth and the truth will set you free.
There is no need to evangelize Catholics. If there is a need the CC will do the needful.
I sincerely pray and request you to go to India and do the Evangelization that you are talking about.
I would be happy to know how you find this place esp with the current political situation there.
Your love for Christ and your desire to evangelize and save souls will be greatly appreciated and put to the test.
Don't waste your time trying to save Catholics. They are already saved. Save someone who isn't. And I gave you the harvest field... India.
It's easy to sit in the western world and talk about Jesus and your faith.
Go to the persecuted world and live you faith out there. You will never be the same again. Chances are you might give up on your faith.
I pray that never happens.
Grace to all who have an undying love for Christ.
Stay blessed. God bless you abundantly. Shalom.
'There is no need to evangelize Catholics. If there is a need the CC will do the needful.' You just contradicted yourself. If Catholics need evangelizing due to incorrect beliefs, the last people to do this would be the very church that is teaching these beliefs. It's beyond ridiculous.
@@RS54321 I feel sad for you. Try to understand in what context I made that statement.
It's not your fault. It's a problem of being educated but lacking understanding.
And my dear friend I will not give you any clarification. The Holy Spirit will guide if you wish to take His counsel on the matter. He can tell more about the Church in the Church and through the Church.
Until then stay blessed. The LORD be with your spirit. May the joy of the LORD be your strength. Amen.
With love, prayers and best wishes.
@@truthspeaker1558 That's fine if you feel sorry for me. I have gotten counsel from the Holy Spirit, the Bible, and wise counsel on this matter and have understanding, thanks.
@@RS54321 That's great. Always Remain Blessed. Grace to all who have an undying love for Christ. Amen. Shalom.
As someone from India, this was well stated! There is no need to convert Catholics they are Christians. India is a true challenge to any person trying to evangelize.
I saw the bark of Peter
on misty oceans ride
listing in the current
Abandoned was the bride
I peered through shivered timbers
where rats had come to dine
but pirates stripped her galley
and had drunken all her wine
Upon her tattered rigging
some heroes had been brave
They dangled from her halyards
till the end of all their days
but tattered sails were luffing
in the winds that lashed the sea
Two thousand years before the mast
and all that's left are these?
It was a desolation
when I beheld the sight
I cried ABOMINATION
into the black of night
and then I lit a candle
It's better than to curse
and said a prayer for mariners
Land lovers are much worse
1 Timothy 2:5 ESV
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Exodus 20:4 ESV
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Acts 4:12 ESV
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Proverbs 30:5-6 ESV
Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.
1 Corinthians 1:10-13 ESV
I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul
I don't want to be uncharitable, but it really seems like Mr. Gendron was poorly catechized (he was a pelagian and also believed penance brought absolution), didn't pay attention at Mass (he claimed only a few verses are read when we go through the whole Bible every 3 years), and he has no intellectual honesty (after 30 years of ministry he still has no idea what Catholics truly believe). I still pray that he returns to one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church though
It's a smaller matter, but the Mass doesn't go through the whole bible even over years. There is a alot of scripture they don't cover. It is more select scripture. I have heard ex priests note this too. There is not only one church. There is only one body under Christ, and we are all part of it. God bless, may you stay close to our Lord Jesus Christ.
You are mistaken. The Catholic Church's readings cover the entire Bible in three years -- including daily Mass. The verses include raedings from the Old and New Testaments the Gospels and tje Book of Psalms. Verses are also used when we pray the Alleluia before the Gospel readings.
We read more from the Bible at a single Mass than many Protestants do at their services.
I'm catholic, I proud to be are Catholic... because catholic is the true Church.
Why don't you just say you are a Christian?
@@RS54321 How is that your concern?
@@eireannemerald1382 How is what my concern? YT isn't showing any previous comments above yours.
@@RS54321 Apologies. My comment is related to your response to Roselynjoseph2743 comment, “I am Catholic …” was: “Why don’t you just say you are Christian.”
And my response was, “Why is that your concern.” We are in the Catholic church and we call ourselves Catholics, just as Lutherans call themselves Lutherans, etc.
@@eireannemerald1382 I'm concerned b/c it's extremely odd as someone who professes to follow Christ to continually define oneself, as Catholics do, as a Catholic or part of the CC instead of as a Christian. The focus is on the CC, not Jesus, which is the issue. I don't identify myself by what church I go to...my identity is in Christ.
The problem that protestants have is the same as Mormonism based on the following 3 arguments. (1) Mormons (Latter-Day Saints, or LDS) believe that after the death of the last Apostle, there was a “Great Apostasy.” Priesthood authority ceased, doctrine began to degenerate, and the true Gospel was lost (necessitating its “restoration” by Joseph Smith in the 19th century). (2) The vast majority of protestants reject multiple doctrines that were believed unanimously by ancient Christians, beginning with the very first Church Fathers who were discipled by the Apostles themselves. Specifically, these protestants reject three key doctrines: a. Baptismal regeneration (how we become Christians); b. Apostolic succession (how the Church is governed); and c. The sacrifice of the Eucharist (how Christians worship). (3) Therefore, whether they realize it or not, most protestants believe in a “Great Apostasy” theory of history that is virtually identical with that of the LDS. If all Christians of which we have any record-including the disciples of the Apostles-were unanimously wrong about how we become Christians, how the Church is governed, and how we worship as Christians (the “Three Doctrines”), there is no more fitting description of this massive falling away than a “Great Apostasy.” This necessarily means that creatures (the protestant “reformers,” or the LDS’s “prophet” Joseph Smith) outperformed the Creator, since their “gospels” and “churches” have now in one form or another lasted for centuries, whereas when Jesus originally established them, they fell apart immediately.
In the writings of the Church Fathers every time they spoke about heresy and heretics, they were describing Protestantism. Protestantism is all over the place on the different positions. You can’t speak about the Protestant position on something, except perhaps in the form of a negative, like they’re contrary to the Catholic Church, they’re contrary to the Roman Pontiff. But the methods, the means, by which Protestants arrive at their theological conclusions were common in virtually all the heresies and the heretics that the Fathers talk about. The problem that protestants have is the same as Mormonism based on the following 3 arguments. (1) Mormons (Latter-Day Saints, or LDS) believe that after the death of the last Apostle, there was a “Great Apostasy.” Priesthood authority ceased, doctrine began to degenerate, and the true Gospel was lost (necessitating its “restoration” by Joseph Smith in the 19th century). (2) The vast majority of protestants reject multiple doctrines that were believed unanimously by ancient Christians, beginning with the very first Church Fathers who were discipled by the Apostles themselves. Specifically, these protestants reject three key doctrines: a. Baptismal regeneration (how we become Christians); b. Apostolic succession (how the Church is governed); and c. The sacrifice of the Eucharist (how Christians worship). (3) Therefore, whether they realize it or not, most protestants believe in a “Great Apostasy” theory of history that is virtually identical with that of the LDS. If all Christians of which we have any record-including the disciples of the Apostles-were unanimously wrong about how we become Christians, how the Church is governed, and how we worship as Christians (the “Three Doctrines”), there is no more fitting description of this massive falling away than a “Great Apostasy.” This necessarily means that creatures (the protestant “reformers,” or the LDS’s “prophet” Joseph Smith) outperformed the Creator, since their “gospels” and “churches” have now in one form or another lasted for centuries, whereas when Jesus originally established them, they fell apart immediately.
In the writings of the Church Fathers every time they spoke about heresy and heretics, they were describing Protestantism. Protestantism is all over the place on the different positions. You can’t speak about the Protestant position on something, except perhaps in the form of a negative, like they’re contrary to the Catholic Church, they’re contrary to the Roman Pontiff. But the methods, the means, by which Protestants arrive at their theological conclusions were common in virtually all the heresies and the heretics that the Fathers talk about.
I think whoever looks at this video should go and have a look at how to be Christian. He really exposes this man’s testimony? Very interesting must watch I think if you are genuinely sincere and seeking the truth, God bless.
Thank God for Sola scriptura and the Reformation. I'm glad I was born in London England and enjoy the King James version of the Bible. The reformation led to the Catholic Church council of Trent because everyone left because of corruption Over time, popes and bishops began selling indulgences as a way of raising money. This practice made it seem that people could buy forgiveness for their sins. Many Catholics were deeply disturbed by the abuse of indulgences. The Church also sold offices, or leadership positions. I would never dishonor the reformers men like John Calvin and Martin Luther by becoming Catholic. Jesus Christ did not come after start a religion but to establish a Kingdom (Kings Domain over a territory) ecclesia Church. We believe in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ saved by faith alone not works lest any man should boast. Jesus Christ is Lord not Mary.
"Thank God for Sola scriptura"
You mean the manmade doctrine of Wycliffe and Luther? Where in the Bible is the Bible Alone doctrine? If you can show me that the Bible actually teaches that it's the only rule of authority and truth, then I'll convert.
"enjoy the King James version of the Bible." It's too Shakespeare like for me. I like the RSV Catholic Bible with all the books, not the truncated Bible that Luther created.
"everyone left because of corruption Over time, popes and bishops began selling indulgences as a way of raising money." It is true that sinful Church leaders did bad things, but the appropriate response was to reform the Church, not create a split and new doctrines.
"This practice made it seem that people could buy forgiveness for their sins." An indulgence doesn't forgive sins, it takes away the punishment of sins already forgiven.
"I would never dishonor the reformers men like John Calvin and Martin Luther by becoming Catholic." Did you know that Luther ADDED the word "alone" to his German translation of Romans 3:28 to support his unbiblical "faith alone" doctrine? You know what the Bible says about adding or subtracting from Scripture? We also know he took out 7 books that were accepted canon for about 1,100 years. I would be honoring Luther too if he had stayed a Catholic monk who worked inside the Church to reform the abuses you mentioned instead of creating a new Bible canon with new doctrines.
"Jesus Christ did not come after start a religion" He told Peter He would build a Church on Peter and even gave him the KEYS (a symbol of authority). How is that not a visible Church? The early Church fathers took Jesus at His Word.
"Jesus Christ saved by faith alone not works lest any man should boast." The "works" he is referring to are of the over 600 the Jews maintained like circumcision. We are saved by faith in Jesus AND works. James 2 tells us that we are justified by WORKS AND NOT FAITH ALONE. Luther didn't like James and wanted to burn it. You can have all the faith in the world and still go to Hell because not everyone who says to me lord lord, but he who does the will of my father (Mt 7:21). The Devil has faith that Jesus is real, but he made a bad choice in not serving so he fell from the heavens. Salvation is a process that we work out with fear and trembling (Phil 2). It's not a one time event in which you accept Jesus into your heart and then BOOM you're saved. You have to make that decision every day for the love of Jesus. That's real love. You wouldn't tell a spouse that you accept them into your heart so you don't need to do anything in the relationship anymore to keep it up. It's a process of growing in love and doing the things it takes.
"Jesus Christ is Lord not Mary." Amen, thank you for stating the obvious. Peace
Very apt reply 🎉
@@phil5457hello :) I wanna ask about something you said. You said that indulgences take away the punishment for sins already forgiven. Hebrews 7:26-27 tells us
“For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens; who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.”
Hebrews 7:26-27
It seems to me like the writer is saying that we no longer have to present sacrifices or payments for our sins anymore because our one and only high priest, Christ, did it “once and for all when He offered up Himself.” So my question is, what do you mean by indulgences take away the punishment for sins that have already been forgiven, for if Jesus already made the payment for his followers once and for all, why do we need to make a payment on our own?
Also just wanted to add a note, I don’t say any of this to go against you as a person, I’m a Protestant and am wanting to learn more about Catholic beliefs from Catholics themselves
@@lf6932 Hi, thanks for the respectful question. I'll do my best in answering it as someone who has spent time in a Catholic seminary and studied theology.
Catholics believe that Jesus opened heaven for us by his redemptive death on the cross, but how we respond to and receive our salvation is a process. It is true that we no longer need to offer up the blood of animals since the Old Law was fulfilled in the perfect sacrifice of Jesus, as you point out (Heb 7:26-27). However, the Bible says that we still need forgiveness of sins and will be judged on how well we love and do God's will in this life. So, it's a matter of applying the grace of His sacrifice to our lives, and how we receive forgiveness.
Jesus gave the power to forgive to the disciples: “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained" (Jn 20:22-23). It wouldn't be necessary to have forgiveness of sins if the one sacrifice of Christ is enough for everything we do today. I mean, if Jesus paid the price does that mean I can go on sinning and not worry about punishment? “If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions” (Mt 6:14-15). So forgiveness is not automatic. It's not simply we believe and we are saved. In Matthew 25 Jesus says the ones who are saved do the corporal works of mercy and the ones who don't are told: “Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels” (41).
The Bible distinguishes between mortal (deadly) and venial sins and that we must pray for those who commit sin: "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal" (1 Jn 5:16-17).
Catholics believe in something called the mystical body of Christ (see: www.newadvent.org/cathen/10663a.htm), which enables us to pray for each other and help each other make it to heaven. St. Paul says, "Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of His body, that is, the church" (Col 1:24). One of the things I enjoy about being Catholic is praying for people and offering up my sufferings in union with Jesus.
In 2 Maccabees chapter 12 Judas' men who died in battle had tokens from idols in their possession. Judas prayed "that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out...Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin" (42,45). This, of course, supports the doctrine of purgatory, but also shows that we can help others with punishment due to sin. The Church has the power to "bind" and "loose" (Mt 16:19) and forgive sins (Jn 20:22-23). Along with the power to forgive sins in the name of Christ, the Church can apply His merits to a person doing penance. Let's say I damage a person's property and confess to a priest. As a penance the priest my ask me if I can restore the damaged property in some way, either by fixing it or by money. If I say I can then the priest can require that as my penance I make restitution. But let's say I slander a person's reputation at work and prevent them from getting a raise or something. That would be more difficult to restore. The penance might be to say some prayers, yet that probably wouldn't take care of all the punishment required. For our help, the Church offers indulgences that we can participate in to help remove the temporal punishment due to our sins. There are a lot of ways we can get indulgences by praying and helping others. I don't typically concern myself with them too much. I need them and use them but don't dwell on them as if I'm earning my way to heaven. That's not the way it works. It's a process. We need to be made clean to enter heaven and stand before God.
Even Jesus spoke about a third place besides heaven and hell: "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come." Notice how he says "neither in this world, nor in the world to come"? He is implying that some sin can be forgiven (venial) in the next world. Yet we know that both heaven and hell are eternal and that we must be perfect to enter heaven. Therefore Jesus must be speaking about a place of purification (purgatory). I have heard people with near death experiences describe a place like purgatory and it's well attested in the lives of the saints. Souls of the departed sometimes visit a holy person to ask for prayers and later return to thank them.
If your interested in the spiritual life I suggest a book, Divine Mercy in My Soul, Diary of Saint Maria Faustina Kowalska. She was a polish nun (d. 1930s) who received visions of Jesus, the Divine Mercy. When I first read the book it blew me away. I still find wisdom in it for my life. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, but spiritual reading helps tremendously since we see how others gained salvation closer to our own time.
"Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith..." (Heb 12:1-2)
@@phil5457 hey Phil! Thank you for the respectful reply, I greatly appreciate being able to have a peaceful discussion with someone rather than a name-calling yelling match, which happens so often on the internet, so thank you.
I agree with you that we cannot be “saved” then live a life of sin, but I don’t think it’s because we lose our salvation, it’s because we were never in Christ. I think many Protestants get salvation wrong by thinking it’s simply a confession of the mouth and that’s it, that’s a simply ridiculous notion that too many people sadly believe gets them to Heaven.
Paul tells us
“that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.”
Romans 10:9-10
The confession of the mouth comes after belief in the heart, true sincere belief, which is manifested in life change and conformity of our hearts and lives to be more like Jesus, by the work of the Spirit. So yes I agree with you that salvation is not simply a profession of faith without life change. Like James talks about in James 2, faith without works is dead because if our faith is not producing good works and conformity to Jesus, it’s dead faith, faith which cannot save. However, if we have true faith, sincere faith, the sacrifice of Jesus is applied to our lives and our sins, past present and future, are paid for. Yes, as Christians we still make mistakes and sin, but we can confess those sins straight to Jesus, for He hears our cries for Him. As I’m sure you know, Jesus tells His followers in John 14 that if we love Him, we will obey His commandments. If one is disobeying His commandments and feels no conviction, is comfortable in that life of sin, I do not believe they are truly saved because they have obviously not truly made Jesus lord of their life. If we truly make Jesus lord of our life, we will serve Him obediently because that is what a good servant does, and it is our purpose as humans to live for the glory and praise of God. However, we do not work to pay off our sins.
“Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.”
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Here, Paul is rebuking the Corinthians for their unholy actions, like sexual immorality and drunkenness to name a few, however He still says the Holy Spirit is in them, but according to Catholic theology they have committed a mortal sin, lust, and would have lost their salvation and connection with God. The Holy Spirit cannot be in them if they have no connection with God. However, in verse 20, Paul says Jesus bought them with a price and tells them to glorify God with their bodies, Here, Paul is outlining how their salvation is not if their works, they did not work with Jesus to do the buying of their sins, Jesus bought their sins alone. Therefore, if they sincerely have made Jesus lord, they must repent of their sins and live their life in step with the Spirit, walking the narrow road.
Now on the apostles having the authority to give sin, this came through the Holy Spirit, which I’m sure you know, but they weren’t forgiving the sins of Christ followers, they were forgiving the sins of nonbelievers, some being Jews who did not fully understand that the OT was meant to point to Jesus.
“And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead. Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.””
Acts 10:42-43
Here, Peter states that the apostles have been ordered to preach to the people and testify in favor of Jesus, to spread the Gospel. He then states that “through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.”
All we have to do to receive forgiveness of sins is believe in Christ, truly making Him lord of our lives. Not simply an intellectual belief, for even demons believe that Jesus existed and rose from the dead, but true and complete trust (faith) in Jesus as lord. When we truly put our lives into Jesus’ hands, He forgives all our sins and blesses us with the Holy Spirit inside of us, who further refines and consecrates us through conviction and a new heart.
Lastly, in Colossians 1:24, Paul is not saying that by his suffering he is increasing the forgiveness that is offered in Christs sacrifice, but he is saying that he is playing his part in the Gospel, which is to share it to all. Jesus sacrifice was fully sufficient in paying for our sins, but it was not sufficient in the spreading of the news of the Gospel, which is why Jesus tells the apostles to spread the Gospel to all nations and baptize people in His name. John Piper does a great video on explaining this (www.desiringgod.org/labs/what-is-lacking-in-christs-afflictions)
Thank you for this discussion Phil, it seems as if you have a genuine love and adoration for Jesus and I encourage you to continue researching and learning, as I will. Thank you for telling me more about the Catholic point of view, it’s so nice to hear from someone who genuinely wants to inform and not bash others :) May you have a blessed day and thank you for this discussion!
The decline of catholicism is due to the easy access to the Word of God.
The Bible is Catholic 😂😂😂
If there is one thing I must thank God is to be catholic.
Let these preacher come to I will make him a catholic again.
Ave, María, grátia plena, Dóminus tecum. Benedicta tu in muliéribus, et benedíctus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta María, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
1Tim 2:5: "Unus enim Deus, unus et mediator Dei et hominum homo Christus Jesus:"
No, I trust Jesus! Maria cannot help.
Jesus is the way. Not Maria!
Mary was a blessed woman BUT only Jesus can get us to heaven Him and only Him is a
our mediator/intercessor.
Mary isn't God and can't hear your prayers. Pray to God. not his mother.
i wonder Mike why so many, for example (Anglican clergy) have become (RC) catholics. Especiaslly in England where around 10% of the active clergy were once CofE clergy. This includes many bishops including the recent (CofE) Bishop of Rochester and some years ago the third most senior bishop in the CofE Graham Leonard who was Bishop of London. Any comment?
It's simple: most people are deceived (and, therefore, going to h€ll). For them the Lord Jesus Christ, His FINISHED redemptive work, and His Word are not sufficient; lots of those embracing Roman Catholicism are as deceived as Eve was. "For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires." •2 Tim 4:3•
@@Reina--EPHESIANS_5..11 The real reason for them going to the CC is because the protection of homo pedophiles is better there.
The same Anglican that promote homosexuality like your current pope..
I think it's because of extreme liberalism that is coming into the Anglican church. Many pastors have went independent, but some convert to Catholicism. I see a lot of protestant pastors convert too. They read the church fathers and think they see consensus. They also like the security of feeling they are part of the church that Jesus founded w/ the apostles, since that is the claim. I don't know when when they know the bible so well that they can handle all the added doctrines, not found in the bible?
Good sharing thank you. But i remain Catholic.
Why don't you identify as Christian?
This really seems to show a person who is scrupulous and had turn to another denomination so he can justify his sin. The purpose of confession put you in a state of grace and receive God in the Eucharist. This doesn’t mean to go out and keep sinning. At the end out of the 35,000 Christian denominations only one was created by God him self and that would be the Catholic Church. You also should study the apostolic fathers who are those who knew the actual apostles like St Ignatius of Antioch where we have the first documented use of the word Catholic Church and he also discusses the structure of the church with descriptions of Bishop’s, priest and Deacons. He also discuss heretics which would be those non Catholics. This seems to be a video of a person not taking the time or effort to really learn about his Catholic faith. It may hurt but the Catholic Church is the one and only true church! Each Christian denomination has their own interpretation and can’t prove theirs is true with any authority. Only the Catholic Church can consecrate the Eucharist and the Bible says in John 41-51 you must eat his body and drink his blood to receive him. This wasn’t a metaphor, be people actually walking away when he said this, but he doesn’t. Just like I the last supper. Only Catholics receive the true body and blood. Even Satan worshiper try to infiltrate a Catholic mass to steal it and desecrate it because they know. I hope and pray other denominations learn before it is too late. Many blessings!
“This really seems to show a person who is scrupulous, had turn to another denomination so he can justify his sin.”
4:33
Did you even watch the video?
7:37
I love how no protestants know anything about the Catholic church so no one has an idea of how much this man is making straw man arguments.
Do you know for sure, if you were to die today, where you would spend eternity?
2 CHURCHES- THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH - EPHESIANS 5:23-25...* EVEN AS CHRIST IS THE "HEAD"OF THE CHURCH * AND HE IS THE "SAVIOUR" OF THE BODY * THEREFORE AS THE CHURCH IS " SUBJECT" UNTO CHRIST(NOT TO THE POPE! ) * EVEN AS CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE CHURCH AND "GAVE" HIMSELF FOR IT * FOR WE ARE "MEMBERS" OF HIS BODY, OF HIS FLESH, AND OF HIS BONES.THE LORD JESUS IS IT'S ONLY BUILDER AND HEAD.THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST HIS CHURCH(MATT.16:18).IT IS MADE OF BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS WHO ARE IN CHRIST AND SANCTIFIED BY THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD.THE APOSTATE CHURCH IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH * THE POPE IS THE "HEAD" OF HIS CATHOLIC CHURCH THE VICAR OF CHRIST IS THEIR god..!! * ALL DEVOUT CATHOLICS ARE SUBJECT(SUBMISSIVE) TO THE VICAR OF CHRIST THEIR "god"..!! *THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ANTI-CHRIST *
Ask Ex catholic priests who left the man made pagan ritualistic church for the Love of Christ... they don't know catholicism either .. after serving for 4-5 decades as priests?? Bro... You really need to be honest in searching for EX CATHOLIC priests & their claims. atleast.
I'm literally protestant
@@jlewis8145 I'm literally protestant