Joker asks "What happen to a man after one-bad-day?" Telltale asks "What happen if, in that one-bad-day, you still have someone standing by your side?" I absolutly love this version of Batman-Joker.
I love this too. This game really challenges you to cast aside pre-conceived judgments and prejudices, to see humanity in the worst of villains, to have the courage to lend a helping hand to pull them back from the edge.
We have seldom seen the man who would become the Joker. Many authors have taken their shots at imagining what makes a man who would become the Joker--budding sociopath, traumatized child, or one bad day in a normal person's life. This is the most sympathetic version of him I have seen. And it also brings up the concept of being present when John Doe is on the edge of descending into the darkness. Do you watch him fall, do you push him...or do you reach out to pull him back? I think this is the most powerful part of this game. What if you had the chance to keep a monster from being born? Maybe you can't make his entire life normal again, but maybe you can help him handle his demons, make them work for him like Batman's demons work for him? John is still fragile, but if you can help him, encourage him, stand by him...maybe you can kill the Joker without spilling a drop of blood. (Edit: Grammar. Also, wow. My most popular comment.)
That was well said. I'll be honest, I don't really find everything in the game to be well executed but their concept is so unique and interesting that it makes up for everything else. I just kinda don't like the fact that Telltale's portrayal of Batman is kind of incompetent compared to other portrayals in film or comics, I mean how many more people are gonna find out he's Batman. I do like how they make Bruce the more active persona.
I really appreciate the fact that they didn’t forget Alfred’s trauma. It just proves a point that no matter how old, how young you are, no one deserves to go through a traumatizing situation. And it also reminds us that we should treat these people with utter respect, no matter who they are.
I really hope they don't have this heroic Joker thing ruined in the 5th episode just for the sake of staying true to the Batman mythos. I've honestly found this story more compelling than anything else Batman related because it does something unique.
+Arena1999 Yeah that's admittedly caused me to be uncertain about getting any Telltale games, because more often than not it's just an illusion of choice than actually deciding the outcome of a situation.
Would be sad if they ruined this more morally dubious Bruce Wayne as well. Telltales Bruce is the most compelling of any Batman story so far thanks to the moral options.
@@pagetvido1850 Morally dubious only in the eyes of the law, e.g. lowering Freeze's temperature, helping Rumi Mori, believing in Joker, trusting Catwoman. It is about seeing good in even the worst of villains. But a lot of people don't understand this core theme.
The way i see batman is he doesnt trust anyone but himself and alfred and i think he just sees villians as sick people who if they step out of line need to be punished so some times i make him just a dick
@@uhm_5414 Well, being anti-Waller about 90% of the time yielded far better outcomes for the game. She's the one who lied to and betrayed Bruce far worse than any other character.
“Batman doesn’t kill” yeah you’re telling me when you throw supersharp batrangs into your enemies heads, punch them until they are unconcious, hang them by their feet, and put a 40 mm gattling gun on top of your Batmobile you’re not killing anyone. That’s a good joke Bruce. Real good joke.
M3L In Batman Arkham Knight the Batcar has Miniguns, BUT, when you shot to thugs, you use another weapon that throw no mortal bullets that "It´s like Donkey Kong hit you with his dong" according to a Thug in the game
i like this change of phase, joker may be always bad if not Freakishly inhuman but its nice to see a change of phase on the characters as harley quin in this game is the bad guy and using joker this time unlike the other version of joker and harley
He goes into extremes when people from the Agency try to shoot him. There are strong hints that the Agency has something to do with what happened to John before Arkham, that's why he was tagged as a 'person of interest' by Avesta & Blake and later he said Avesta looks familiar. It's a repressed traumatic memory.
Not sure why so many people dont like this version of the joker. Personally i think its been refreshing to see a new take on him. At first i was extremely wary around him but as time went on i started thinking i might be able to prevent the joker from existing and have john instead. At this point im convinced that john doe is an entirely different person than the joker. He definitely has the potential to be the joker, but he isnt yet and might never truly be. Telltales version of batman turned a lot of traditional elements on their heads, it has kept me guessing about everyone and everything.
I know I’m four years late but I’ll say it anyway. Alot of us are tired of “FrEsH NeW TaKeS” on the same character. Just make a new character. Joker being a crazed push over instead of the psychotic gang lord doesn’t sit right with Alotta long time Batman fans.
Thegaming Monster I'm not saying Heath Ledger was a vigilante, I was saying that the good ending for John kinda reminded me a little bit of the Heath Ledger joker. They're not the same, but their views on how even those with authority can be monsters are kinda similar.
Wow! The battle between Batman VS Bane and Mr Freeze, that was so astonishing, due to violence. I liked how John Doe stopped Mr Freeze from freezing Batman. Bane wasn’t as tough as he used to be back there, even with a venom syringe injection. I feel too bad about John Doe receiving a black eye from Harley Quinn.
Y'know, I think John knew way before the whole laptop thing, I think he knew since the first season, when they first met, he was saying that he knew the real Bruce, I think he already put two and two together, and the fact that you can choose which side he can be on is incredibly amazing, I'd rather John be good than the Joker
Buster The Bear dude. You know why he even became a villain? To get the money to try and save his DYING WIFE. Who he put in a cryostasis chamber so she wont die. He cant get a normal job due to the accident. So hes FORCED into a life of crime!
Female asura Yes. Tragedy does change you but in my eyes it doesn’t justify killing innocent people. For example in episode 3, while these people were criminals he killed a shit ton of Bane’s men just to test his powers. I won’t judge you for pitying him but I don’t feel bad for him
Not for me, but for good yeah, but no, it's too much to be just friendship xd John acts a lot like a mad girlfriend in this episode ._. (It's what I see, maybe not the same as you do xd)
Goodness was this an awesome and insane episode!!! Not only was the opening fight with Bane and Freeze in my opinion the best fight in this season so far, but every scene with John was super intense. Really happy to see him on the path of a vigilante while others who want him as full on Joker can also have that ending. Really interested to see where vigilante John goes in the final episode cause that design looks so cool lol :)
Thank you :) what kinda worries me is that since John's view of justice at the end of this episode was abit too extreme, chances are that it could lead to batman having to stop vigilante John. But I really hope we can still help John on his path of good and maybe team up with him to take down the agency batman and robin style without the need of a bat credit card lol.
Agreed, If waiting longer for it to come gives them time to give us an final episode where the good john and joker paths can be very different then that would be worth the wait. specially if they are going out of their way to make two different models in the shadows like that.
I want to put this theory out there before the final episode announced. People seem to worry about how Telltale will handle John Doe/Joker scenario, and not copping out like what they did to Harvey/Two-Face. I can think of a route that would pay off a meaningful choice with limited outcome. In Ep.5 the final confrontation could happen in the church(the place John and Bruce first met in this season). John/Joker capture a group of hostages and threaten to kill them all. As Joker- Joker will capture a bunch of civilians purposefully to challenge Bruce to come and save them. Batman will go there and have a final fight with him. In the end, Joker lost and get arrested. As John- John will capture a bunch of Agency agents, to kill them as a punishment for abusing their power. Batman will go there and have an(obvious) option to talk him down. In the end, John surrender. In SS2 epilogue. John/Joker was sent to Arkham. As Joker- Bruce goes to Arkham as Batman, Joker said to him that they will be mortal enemy, and he's looking forward to fight Batman again. As John- Bruce come to check on John if he settles back in okay. They have a little friendly chat, John mentions how it's good that Arkham still feels like home to him. In SS3. While dealing with a new villain(s), Bruce needs some information from John/Joker. As Joker- Batman goes to Arkham, and having a Hannibal style conversation with Joker, getting a cryptic information out of him. Joker claim he just wants to see how Batman will deal with this new villain. As John- Bruce goes to visit John as regular basic. After disabling security camera so they could have some privacy, John tells Bruce what he wants to know, with a side comment about this new villain. Before Bruce leaves, John wishes him good luck, and said he'll be the welcome party for this villain if Bruce decides to send him/her to Arkham. What do you think? With this, we'll still have a different outcome regarding the choice we made, but it'll allow Telltale to reuse a lot of resources for each event.
The fact that you chose most of the things I would have chosen (especially being good to Selina and John) *edit start* made me subscribe to your channel. I'm so glad I found your channel! Very thorough, too!!
i played the entire episode siding with John Doe. I'm glad I did because at the end of the day it was the Agency who looked like the real bad guys to me. My JD was reliable and trust worthy even at the most conflicting moments. I stood for him and he did too. I'm glad I was able to shape him like that in my playthrough.
I’ve always payed close attention to the music in this game, and every time the “Joker” music comes on, it just makes me immediately think of him. The music suits the character so well. And that’s one of the reasons that I believe this is one of the best jokers. (Video game wise)
Shame we never got Poker Night At The Inventory 3, John would’ve been perfect at the table. “Oh don’t mind me, I’ve got a friend with some deep pockets muhahaha.”
In the alternative scenario where you go into Sanctus as Bruce, Harley would choose to have Bruce by her side as co-leader when they first confront the Sanctus guard/receptionist, because Harley likes Bruce a lot. The rest of the Pact, including Bane, were outside the Spa. “Just gotta take out one itty bitty guard, then we can get the rest of the gang inside." In this scenario, Harley would have Bane as co-leader by her side instead on the frontline, and the rest of the Pact, including Catwoman, following later. That's why the guard/receptionist was torn into half.
I'm also wondering what's up with Mr Freeze. Will he break out( due to you freezing the airlock for him) or is he collared like the others? So many questions, so few answers.
Thanks for uploading this and showing us the right things to say to John/Joker at the funhouse. I watched someone else's playthrough of the game, and although he got Bruce to convince John that he still trusts him, he made Bruce say some things that almost could have turned John against him. Seeing the choices you made during that scene made it so different, and yet still a little intense since this game still makes any interactions with the Joker very tricky.
The joker from this game is just like Christopher Nolan version. He an anarchist that doesn't like the way the world is as opposed to a straight up psychopath
This one hasn't shown much signs of anarchy. This Joker just seems to prefer people who treat him decently. If they don't, he goes nuts. But if they're kind to him, he's kind right back.
The Christopher Nolan version was not an anarchist. He just liked chaos and destruction, as Alfred said, “some men just want to watch the world burn” Anarchism is about order among madness and the belief that true freedom means no type of government.
She wasn't his ally at that time, so I don't blame her. I had a problem with her destroying Riddler's blood in haste, which escalated the situation with Harley at the bridge. She should have waited.
John said that the reason he fell for Harley is due to her recklessness, how she escalates things into violence.. if there is any hope for Bruce to pursue a romantic relationship with John, I’d say the final fight, the event where chaos is prominent, where John witnesses Bruce literally body slamming and punching anyone who tries to hurt him(after all John gets the most excited when he sees how violent Bruce can be).. I’d say this is when John truly falls in love with Bruce. ....Or hey, Bruce reels him in with the kindness and positive support Harley didn’t give him . Any works good. Sorry I just really want Bruce to be able to get with John romantically.
The Strong- He's strongly fixated with "Batman". It is love in the sense of chaos and killings for the joker. Go watch Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns/Red hood comics. This thrill Batman gives him is exciting.
Hi Hippo, thanks for doing these videos. You're incredibly thorough doing both the good and evil walkthroughs and I always look forward to your videos when the new episodes come out. Keep up the great work!
I got the Vigilante ending too and I also let him stab Waller. John did take it too far in the end though. I really hope Telltale doesn’t go the predictable route and make it so I have to end up stopping John and bringing him in. I really hope there’s an ending where John truly becomes good and an ally for the eventual season 3
John Doe is such a fresh new take on the Joker. I've enjoyed almost every version of him, this version of him is both surprising and welcomed. He keeps you on your toes, doesn't he? I am happy that your choices showed him human decency and kindness.
Really good video. I did the episode myself before watching this and now I understand why I see a different outcome here when John embraces you without options to say something. In my episode, I chose to be a bit doubtful on what John told me and we had a little scuffle (in which I decided to avoid his hits), but in the end when I told him I still trust him, he was speechless and he embraced me much longer and I had something to say about it (I told him, "We should get out of here."). I'm amazed that my side of being a bit more cunning than honest with slightly different choices made John react in a different but still positive way.
Imagining John in the Batcave, or living with Bruce in the mansion. Why do I think of John as a Vigilante, putting on a high-advanced herosuit, that is modeled after Batman with a few jokeresk designes. John : Its going to be so much fun!!!!
“You could’ve been there to prevent this!” “…I had to protect Catwoman. They would’ve killed her otherwise.” “So instead you let others die.” That cruel retort really is the beginning of Waller’s “impartial” unraveling. He couldn’t have possibly known that the Pact would opt for outright carnage considering Harley was for discretion pre Riddler’s death. And in this one? After her forgave her for her supposed “blackout” during the Pact raid?! It really solidifies that Bruce’s understanding is on a full collision with others’ agendas, and he needs to make his fairest judgements to bring the best outcome.
1:02:10 You should not have said "You did what you had to" because John certainly did not have to kill the agents. You should have said "You don't sound sure" or stay silent.
The "don't sound sure" option has Bruce read it in a more hostile tone: "This just-happened, right? I'm surprised you don't have more clarity." J: "You're saying I'm lying?" B: "I'm saying it's strange." It basically leads into John becoming hostile at not being believed and biting back at Bruce for instilling doubt in him at any point during the past few episodes.
That's good idea!! But that would be cool to see Dick Grayson on third season. Just i can't wait first robin on this telltale's show and creating his relationship with batman :D Black mask should be main batman's enemy. For dessert killercroc and deathshot who are manipulated by black mask. Of course should be a possibility to change deathshot's side. For example Batman will start a investigate in case true identity deatshot. Then emotional speech "be the dad who will be a idol for your daughter". Justice League is awesome but before batman should meet Dick. I hope that will be fourth season with Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern :D Sorry for my english. I know that I wrote many mistake :D Sorry about that
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Joker asks "What happen to a man after one-bad-day?"
Telltale asks "What happen if, in that one-bad-day, you still have someone standing by your side?"
I absolutly love this version of Batman-Joker.
I love this too. This game really challenges you to cast aside pre-conceived judgments and prejudices, to see humanity in the worst of villains, to have the courage to lend a helping hand to pull them back from the edge.
@Scare crows
I feel like a lot of bad days pile on and when it was the last straw, that one completely bad day just made John snap.
This is the best Joker actually.
I like your analogy; I really hope whoever had the idea to have Joker be a good guy in this Batman Universe be rewarded
@@sovietdeathstroke6713 Joker is not really a good guy he's more like an anti hero
Bad guys turn good guys
Best joker turning civillian
RYDER NIGAA yup!
if u cant beat them join them
We have seldom seen the man who would become the Joker. Many authors have taken their shots at imagining what makes a man who would become the Joker--budding sociopath, traumatized child, or one bad day in a normal person's life.
This is the most sympathetic version of him I have seen. And it also brings up the concept of being present when John Doe is on the edge of descending into the darkness. Do you watch him fall, do you push him...or do you reach out to pull him back?
I think this is the most powerful part of this game. What if you had the chance to keep a monster from being born? Maybe you can't make his entire life normal again, but maybe you can help him handle his demons, make them work for him like Batman's demons work for him? John is still fragile, but if you can help him, encourage him, stand by him...maybe you can kill the Joker without spilling a drop of blood.
(Edit: Grammar. Also, wow. My most popular comment.)
Agreed :)
That was well said. I'll be honest, I don't really find everything in the game to be well executed but their concept is so unique and interesting that it makes up for everything else. I just kinda don't like the fact that Telltale's portrayal of Batman is kind of incompetent compared to other portrayals in film or comics, I mean how many more people are gonna find out he's Batman. I do like how they make Bruce the more active persona.
Hippo do me a favor, for the safety of all please save John
Yeah, I think he will either become Joker, or Red Hood, based on your choices
amennnnn this was so inspiring! i like waht telltale has done wit this series and actually havin the option and opportunity to change the outcome.
I really appreciate the fact that they didn’t forget Alfred’s trauma. It just proves a point that no matter how old, how young you are, no one deserves to go through a traumatizing situation. And it also reminds us that we should treat these people with utter respect, no matter who they are.
I really hope they don't have this heroic Joker thing ruined in the 5th episode just for the sake of staying true to the Batman mythos. I've honestly found this story more compelling than anything else Batman related because it does something unique.
+TheGravrKnight He's more of a vilgilant than heroic, but let's hope Telltale actually takes our choices into account this time.
+Arena1999 Yeah that's admittedly caused me to be uncertain about getting any Telltale games, because more often than not it's just an illusion of choice than actually deciding the outcome of a situation.
Would be sad if they ruined this more morally dubious Bruce Wayne as well. Telltales Bruce is the most compelling of any Batman story so far thanks to the moral options.
@@pagetvido1850 Morally dubious only in the eyes of the law, e.g. lowering Freeze's temperature, helping Rumi Mori, believing in Joker, trusting Catwoman. It is about seeing good in even the worst of villains. But a lot of people don't understand this core theme.
This comment didnt age well
The only playthrough where Batman has consistent human decency.
Megaboss I know right.
Thanks :)
Drake De La Cruz, yea sure, the brave and the bold one was a complete dick, the batman 2004 cared too you know
The way i see batman is he doesnt trust anyone but himself and alfred and i think he just sees villians as sick people who if they step out of line need to be punished so some times i make him just a dick
Thegaming Monster actually he does care, he has a no kill rule remember
Achievement unlocked:
Make love, not war.
Well, at the end there's still war...
And never break a pinky promise.
Lmao i like your choices most people choice the bad ones these are good choices it's hard to find people that joins johns side
Agreed. In my play through, I wanted to get the vigilante joker ending so much I searched it up on how to get it.
lol I got the vigilante joker ending on my first try :P
Oh. Hahaha
DBKWK 9 It's not hard. Just don't turn against him and use every opportunity to strengthen the friendship with bruce.
Bryce made good choices.
Batman Arkham Knight: NewsFlash! You killed me
The Enemy Within: NewsFlash! You’re bad at helping
I didn’t notice that
If you give John the batarang in episode 3 he’ll save you from freeze with it saying he practiced just like he told you
Thanks I didn't meet John in the alley in this playthrough .
Hippo Reddy Too bad he turned evil in the end of my playthrough
Well not completely evil . He became a vigilante .
Hippo Reddy No, in my playthrough he became a villain
Oh ok
I face palmed my face so hard when Waller pulled a gun on john that I think I broke my nose
he sounds just like a young Mark Hamil’s Joker it’s so cute
This is really cool. Can't wait to see John as chaotic good!
Yeah me too :)
Wait, so 65% sided with Waller at the time of this recording? Damn people.
No wonder the world is shit
Most people tend to be judgmental of John.
Magdalene Tan I feel as though they wanna stay on her good side though. She is unpredictable and hard af.
@@uhm_5414 Well, being anti-Waller about 90% of the time yielded far better outcomes for the game. She's the one who lied to and betrayed Bruce far worse than any other character.
What's is wrong with them?
“Batman doesn’t kill” yeah you’re telling me when you throw supersharp batrangs into your enemies heads, punch them until they are unconcious, hang them by their feet, and put a 40 mm gattling gun on top of your Batmobile you’re not killing anyone. That’s a good joke Bruce. Real good joke.
M3L0619 you do know half of those thugs aren’t even in the same game?
They may not be in this game, but they sure are in the other games.
M3L In Batman Arkham Knight the Batcar has Miniguns, BUT, when you shot to thugs, you use another weapon that throw no mortal bullets that "It´s like Donkey Kong hit you with his dong" according to a Thug in the game
M3L0619 He puts them to sleep *College Humor*
NOOOO MR FISHY
i like this change of phase, joker may be always bad if not Freakishly inhuman but its nice to see a change of phase on the characters as harley quin in this game is the bad guy and using joker this time unlike the other version of joker and harley
Agreed :)
it hurt my soul when he said "its funny. when you came in here, i honestly thought you came to check on me..." then walks off sadly. :(((::(((
@@seemeno1 I was upset that there wasn't an option to ask John what happened
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that Batman takes consideration to attack everyone except John because he considers him a friend ? : 14:00
Yes, that's a true friendship and after that John saves Batman from Freeze.
Now THIS is the best ending.
I love seeing john happy
pragmatic goon Me too!
Way to go, Hippo. I was kinda with John about being a hero when Waller turned on him. He went to extremes, though.
Yeah he did .
I was kind of disappointed with both john and Waller because I tried my best to keep them calm .
Hippo Reddy Waller’s a bitch and Telltale will be Telltale
I'm still gonna do my best to talk sense into him, in the next episode. I was supporting him from the start, and I'm not gonna give up on my friend.
Argoniek Well said!
He goes into extremes when people from the Agency try to shoot him. There are strong hints that the Agency has something to do with what happened to John before Arkham, that's why he was tagged as a 'person of interest' by Avesta & Blake and later he said Avesta looks familiar. It's a repressed traumatic memory.
Just to be sure, was anyone else face palming and saying "goddammit Waller" at the end?
Me 😃
I did.
Like:
me: "hoe don't do it"
waller: * tries to shot John *
me: oh my Gad
Me: Hey everything worked out in the en-
*_Waller tries to shoot John_*
Me: "God fricking dammit Bitch we had it settled!!"
Jesus christ, I was PISSED
She only cares about her rules.
Waller screwed everything up at the end!
Yeah :'(
Don't trust Waller next time ok
Yeah, she does that.
She created the evil in Joker.
John new Robin confirmed
Asaduzzaman Romel
I don't think so
But it would be interesse
Don't you mean "RED HOOD"?
BrickBoy1894 More like the jester
Well, MAYBE, but I don't know... Did Jester ever KILL anyone on Earth 2?
No, wait! I meant Earth 3! Earth 2 is the Golden Age Universe... (at least according to Crisis on Infinite Earths and so forth)
Not sure why so many people dont like this version of the joker. Personally i think its been refreshing to see a new take on him. At first i was extremely wary around him but as time went on i started thinking i might be able to prevent the joker from existing and have john instead. At this point im convinced that john doe is an entirely different person than the joker. He definitely has the potential to be the joker, but he isnt yet and might never truly be. Telltales version of batman turned a lot of traditional elements on their heads, it has kept me guessing about everyone and everything.
I know I’m four years late but I’ll say it anyway. Alot of us are tired of “FrEsH NeW TaKeS” on the same character. Just make a new character. Joker being a crazed push over instead of the psychotic gang lord doesn’t sit right with Alotta long time Batman fans.
I wonder what a Vigilante Joker is going to be like. Probably similar to the Heath Ledger Joker from Dark Knight.
Trey Alexander really, not like The Jester?
He nearly blew up a bridge and stabbed Amanda Waller. Plus when he said the word fun before jumping off a bridge reminded me a Heath Ledger.
Trey Alexander no offense you wrong
How does heath ledgers version remind of a vigilante he just wanted to cause chaos and mayhem he didnt do one good thing
Thegaming Monster I'm not saying Heath Ledger was a vigilante, I was saying that the good ending for John kinda reminded me a little bit of the Heath Ledger joker. They're not the same, but their views on how even those with authority can be monsters are kinda similar.
Wow! The battle between Batman VS Bane and Mr Freeze, that was so astonishing, due to violence.
I liked how John Doe stopped Mr Freeze from freezing Batman.
Bane wasn’t as tough as he used to be back there, even with a venom syringe injection.
I feel too bad about John Doe receiving a black eye from Harley Quinn.
“I’m pretty sure I can run from the smell” LOL
Y'know, I think John knew way before the whole laptop thing, I think he knew since the first season, when they first met, he was saying that he knew the real Bruce, I think he already put two and two together, and the fact that you can choose which side he can be on is incredibly amazing, I'd rather John be good than the Joker
Same
Freeze is the only nice person in the pack(besides John)
lord killer Lol I just walked away when he begged for my help he deserved it for all the people he killed
Buster The Bear dude. You know why he even became a villain? To get the money to try and save his DYING WIFE. Who he put in a cryostasis chamber so she wont die. He cant get a normal job due to the accident. So hes FORCED into a life of crime!
Female asura Yes. Tragedy does change you but in my eyes it doesn’t justify killing innocent people. For example in episode 3, while these people were criminals he killed a shit ton of Bane’s men just to test his powers. I won’t judge you for pitying him but I don’t feel bad for him
Buster The Bear he wont kill if he has no reason to. The men were criminals. Most probably would be on death row or on a lifetime in jail. So meh.
lord killer and Cat Women
LOL I replayed the scene when John Stabbed Waller
dega arsyan good
dega arsyan I didn't like that scene, just because it's not good for John. She deserved it, of course.
This is why I started to think John might be bisexual, that "That's for messing with my Batman" xd
Yeah that is possible :)
people can be friends without bringing sexuality into it.
Silver Centuries It’s just because Batman is his hero and he’s insane
It's possible to be crazy, obsessed, and bi...
Not for me, but for good yeah, but no, it's too much to be just friendship xd John acts a lot like a mad girlfriend in this episode ._. (It's what I see, maybe not the same as you do xd)
Goodness was this an awesome and insane episode!!! Not only was the opening fight with Bane and Freeze in my opinion the best fight in this season so far, but every scene with John was super intense. Really happy to see him on the path of a vigilante while others who want him as full on Joker can also have that ending. Really interested to see where vigilante John goes in the final episode cause that design looks so cool lol :)
Yeah agreed :)
It was awesome .
Thank you :) what kinda worries me is that since John's view of justice at the end of this episode was abit too extreme, chances are that it could lead to batman having to stop vigilante John. But I really hope we can still help John on his path of good and maybe team up with him to take down the agency batman and robin style without the need of a bat credit card lol.
Yeah I am hoping they take their time and give us a good episode instead of rushing it :)
Agreed, If waiting longer for it to come gives them time to give us an final episode where the good john and joker paths can be very different then that would be worth the wait. specially if they are going out of their way to make two different models in the shadows like that.
Im pretty sure in that moment with waller he snapped and turned into a nicer version of joker but in the next episode will be more intense
15:30
Joker: That's for messing with my Batman!
Me: *That sounds gay.*
My choices were hella batjokes-y this episode...no regrets, though
I want to put this theory out there before the final episode announced. People seem to worry about how Telltale will handle John Doe/Joker scenario, and not copping out like what they did to Harvey/Two-Face. I can think of a route that would pay off a meaningful choice with limited outcome.
In Ep.5 the final confrontation could happen in the church(the place John and Bruce first met in this season). John/Joker capture a group of hostages and threaten to kill them all.
As Joker- Joker will capture a bunch of civilians purposefully to challenge Bruce to come and save them. Batman will go there and have a final fight with him. In the end, Joker lost and get arrested.
As John- John will capture a bunch of Agency agents, to kill them as a punishment for abusing their power. Batman will go there and have an(obvious) option to talk him down. In the end, John surrender.
In SS2 epilogue. John/Joker was sent to Arkham.
As Joker- Bruce goes to Arkham as Batman, Joker said to him that they will be mortal enemy, and he's looking forward to fight Batman again.
As John- Bruce come to check on John if he settles back in okay. They have a little friendly chat, John mentions how it's good that Arkham still feels like home to him.
In SS3. While dealing with a new villain(s), Bruce needs some information from John/Joker.
As Joker- Batman goes to Arkham, and having a Hannibal style conversation with Joker, getting a cryptic information out of him. Joker claim he just wants to see how Batman will deal with this new villain.
As John- Bruce goes to visit John as regular basic. After disabling security camera so they could have some privacy, John tells Bruce what he wants to know, with a side comment about this new villain. Before Bruce leaves, John wishes him good luck, and said he'll be the welcome party for this villain if Bruce decides to send him/her to Arkham.
What do you think? With this, we'll still have a different outcome regarding the choice we made, but it'll allow Telltale to reuse a lot of resources for each event.
john deserves the world ok
and the word needs for Johns
P.S has any one notice the easter egg of a name he got?
John Doe is usually a name give to unidentified persons.
Coming back from the Sherlock fandom, I'm finding that that's becoming a trend for those named John...
sayan sengupta YA DONT SAY!?! guess u weren't paying attention for the 1st season of this telltale.
So , teltalle did good ? :D
57:12 + headphones=heart attack
Yup had to experience it three times :'(
Yeah
Damcio Player no = earrape
I'm spooked solid
Damcio Player I
The fact that you chose most of the things I would have chosen (especially being good to Selina and John) *edit start* made me subscribe to your channel. I'm so glad I found your channel! Very thorough, too!!
Nice to know :)
Hippo Reddy, sorry... I didn't realise that TH-cam didn't post my full comment... Oops
Its ok .
Thanks a lot for subscribing :)
I hope in the last episode we don't have to fight with John
Yeah .
Scouty im guessing if you chose him to become joker, youll fight him
Yeah that is possible because there was also an optional fight with catwoman in episode 3 .
i played the entire episode siding with John Doe. I'm glad I did because at the end of the day it was the Agency who looked like the real bad guys to me. My JD was reliable and trust worthy even at the most conflicting moments. I stood for him and he did too. I'm glad I was able to shape him like that in my playthrough.
Agreed .
I Hope there is still good in John
Yeah me too .
You heard him he is gonna help us Clean up Gotham, i knew me being nice to him would pay off
themairo galaxy2master I said he was sitting this one out when he offered to talk to Harley and he turned evil fml
WHY would you do that
He is good , but he will use probably deadly tactics to "clean" up the city , thats one reason why Batman would fight Joker in Ep5.
21:47 “Hey Will. Give me a hand with this, Will you?” 😃
I had to point out aha.
I'm best friend with joker he's a cool friend
nope, pretty sure i can get away from the bad smell.
a quote from John Doe
Bruce Wayne and Batman together making a change back and forth. :3
I’ve always payed close attention to the music in this game, and every time the “Joker” music comes on, it just makes me immediately think of him. The music suits the character so well. And that’s one of the reasons that I believe this is one of the best jokers. (Video game wise)
"Its funny when you first walked through that door, I honestly thought you came to check on me." 😭😭😭💔💔💔
Shame we never got Poker Night At The Inventory 3, John would’ve been perfect at the table. “Oh don’t mind me, I’ve got a friend with some deep pockets muhahaha.”
so john is going to be like red hood
(14:43) - Catwoman vs Harley Quinn!!! Awesome!
Yes, I enjoy all the Catwoman vs Harley fights. Respect women who can fight.
In the alternative scenario where you go into Sanctus as Bruce, Harley would choose to have Bruce by her side as co-leader when they first confront the Sanctus guard/receptionist, because Harley likes Bruce a lot. The rest of the Pact, including Bane, were outside the Spa. “Just gotta take out one itty bitty guard, then we can get the rest of the gang inside."
In this scenario, Harley would have Bane as co-leader by her side instead on the frontline, and the rest of the Pact, including Catwoman, following later. That's why the guard/receptionist was torn into half.
Shonen Joker is adorable 😂
Right I wanna hug him😄
samurai jack He is a gem and HUZZAH for Joker the Vigilante!
New screenshots show the Pact plus Catwoman with Suicide Squad esque shock collars. Hopefully you and John can bring Waller to justice! Great series!
It also shows joker facing off against batman so maybe there will be two battles .
Yeah, I can't wait to see how next episode goes down. March 27 can't come soon enough!
I'm also wondering what's up with Mr Freeze. Will he break out( due to you freezing the airlock for him) or is he collared like the others? So many questions, so few answers.
Thanks for uploading this and showing us the right things to say to John/Joker at the funhouse. I watched someone else's playthrough of the game, and although he got Bruce to convince John that he still trusts him, he made Bruce say some things that almost could have turned John against him. Seeing the choices you made during that scene made it so different, and yet still a little intense since this game still makes any interactions with the Joker very tricky.
Thanks a lot for watching .
Appreciate the feedback :)
The joker from this game is just like Christopher Nolan version. He an anarchist that doesn't like the way the world is as opposed to a straight up psychopath
This one hasn't shown much signs of anarchy. This Joker just seems to prefer people who treat him decently. If they don't, he goes nuts. But if they're kind to him, he's kind right back.
The Christopher Nolan version was not an anarchist. He just liked chaos and destruction, as Alfred said, “some men just want to watch the world burn” Anarchism is about order among madness and the belief that true freedom means no type of government.
Sociopath.
L
This Joker isn’t a psychopath he’s a vigilante
i know its her job but iman couldve kept the secret about bruce being batman to herself, waller knowing makes everything so much harder for no reason
She wasn't his ally at that time, so I don't blame her. I had a problem with her destroying Riddler's blood in haste, which escalated the situation with Harley at the bridge. She should have waited.
John said that the reason he fell for Harley is due to her recklessness, how she escalates things into violence.. if there is any hope for Bruce to pursue a romantic relationship with John, I’d say the final fight, the event where chaos is prominent, where John witnesses Bruce literally body slamming and punching anyone who tries to hurt him(after all John gets the most excited when he sees how violent Bruce can be).. I’d say this is when John truly falls in love with Bruce.
....Or hey, Bruce reels him in with the kindness and positive support Harley didn’t give him . Any works good. Sorry I just really want Bruce to be able to get with John romantically.
This is why god awful fanfictions are conceived.
The Strong- He's strongly fixated with "Batman". It is love in the sense of chaos and killings for the joker. Go watch Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns/Red hood comics. This thrill Batman gives him is exciting.
Death and murder is considered intimacy to the Joker. Get out of here with that bi implications. Both of you
I am pretty excited for the next episode.
Me too :)
The ending is sad
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Sans the Lazybones how?
Cuz i feel sorry for John(aka Joker)
John was a good kid but half of the pepole he met betrayed him
Sans the Lazybones he still likes Bruce and John said that him and Bruce are going to clean up the city together so not all of them betrayed him
Hi Hippo, thanks for doing these videos. You're incredibly thorough doing both the good and evil walkthroughs and I always look forward to your videos when the new episodes come out. Keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot :)
Appreciate the feedback and support .
I feel so bad for John. Wish you could choose to be his friend over information.
Fuck yeah Vigilante John teaming up with Batman.
1:12:06 “lets talk this through like rodents, Harley”
WHY DID YIY LIKE MY COMMENT THIS VID IS LIKE THREE YEARS OLD
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Those were good choices and 1st
:)
i dont think this is good choices, a lot more casualties than bruce wayne being in there with them
Lavexis ok
I know I made these exact same choices, but is it really noble to let all the Sanctus people die just for Catwoman?
He protect
He attack
But most importantly
He smack Waller ass
You know, the way she was eager enough to prepare for going out into the field, I would think she will become Batman's successor.
I got the Vigilante ending too and I also let him stab Waller. John did take it too far in the end though. I really hope Telltale doesn’t go the predictable route and make it so I have to end up stopping John and bringing him in. I really hope there’s an ending where John truly becomes good and an ally for the eventual season 3
Yeah I hope the same too .
I wonder if Waller is bruce/Batman's enemy in episode 5
It is possible . Although joker seems to the enemy if you choose to make him a villain .
Hopefully that wont happen and telltale decides to surprise us :D
Guardians of the galaxy had a bit of variety in the ending so I am hoping the same will be true here .
Great playthrough! I love seeing these decisions made this consistently!
Thanks a lot :)
I feel bad for John
Me too.
I can just picture that in episode 5 waller is gonna have bruce imprisioned or something
Maybe we get the option of free harley along the way
That's what im thinking after you get john outfitted he will ask you to help rescue harley
I'm in love with these vids, I can't stop watching rip
Thank you for watching :)
:)
John Doe is such a fresh new take on the Joker. I've enjoyed almost every version of him, this version of him is both surprising and welcomed. He keeps you on your toes, doesn't he? I am happy that your choices showed him human decency and kindness.
Really good video. I did the episode myself before watching this and now I understand why I see a different outcome here when John embraces you without options to say something. In my episode, I chose to be a bit doubtful on what John told me and we had a little scuffle (in which I decided to avoid his hits), but in the end when I told him I still trust him, he was speechless and he embraced me much longer and I had something to say about it (I told him, "We should get out of here."). I'm amazed that my side of being a bit more cunning than honest with slightly different choices made John react in a different but still positive way.
Thanks :)
Interesting choices .
You’re the best at making choices, earned my sub
Thank you
I want to see what happens when you stop John instead of the Agent like damn
Yeah let me know if you find a video :)
Trey Bens all Bruce does is shout at John to stop but he doesn't so then John stabs Waller and the agent gets her to safety
Thanks :)
Fun fact they used their concept art for Tiffany’s designs that she showed Bruce
Can't wait for honest bat man in ep. 5!
3:41 the most disturbing scene for my opinion like if you agree
Yeah
Hippo Reddy thanks for loving my comment
Np .
Thanks for watching :)
Waller ruins everything.
I still wanna know who killed riddler
Waller probably had him silenced to further her hidden agenda.
Yeah episode 5 should be very interesting indeed .
I hope its not joker .
Yeah I meant john :)
Plot twist, it's riddler
It looked like John but I think it was that woman from the first batman
48:00 Alfred is foreshadowing gasp
Imagining John in the Batcave, or living with Bruce in the mansion.
Why do I think of John as a Vigilante, putting on a high-advanced herosuit, that is modeled after Batman with a few jokeresk designes.
John : Its going to be so much fun!!!!
Damn, I chose the exact same choices as you, I came here to see the other scenarios and wasn't expecting the same answers
3:38 I THOUGHT IT WAS AGENT BLAKE!
What's up John?
@@vigilantegirl910 who, in the actual hell, ARE YOU??
Gordon is completely forgotten in this episode, the fight with the pac is so epic.
42:04 his “No😆 you won’t.😠”
I like your playthroughs
Thank you for watching :)
“You could’ve been there to prevent this!”
“…I had to protect Catwoman. They would’ve killed her otherwise.”
“So instead you let others die.”
That cruel retort really is the beginning of Waller’s “impartial” unraveling. He couldn’t have possibly known that the Pact would opt for outright carnage considering Harley was for discretion pre Riddler’s death. And in this one? After her forgave her for her supposed “blackout” during the Pact raid?! It really solidifies that Bruce’s understanding is on a full collision with others’ agendas, and he needs to make his fairest judgements to bring the best outcome.
Waller is awful. I never liked her.
Vigilante Path: 1 Villain Path: 0
1:02:10 You should not have said "You did what you had to" because John certainly did not have to kill the agents. You should have said "You don't sound sure" or stay silent.
The "don't sound sure" option has Bruce read it in a more hostile tone: "This just-happened, right? I'm surprised you don't have more clarity." J: "You're saying I'm lying?" B: "I'm saying it's strange."
It basically leads into John becoming hostile at not being believed and biting back at Bruce for instilling doubt in him at any point during the past few episodes.
So you think that turning John into a villain is good choice?
1. 300th comment
2. TIFFANY IS BATGIRL
3. where's robin
Maybe he will appear in season 3
I Hope In The Batman Telltale Series Batman Joins The Justice League. That Could Happen Next Season.
Yeah that would be awesome .
That's good idea!! But that would be cool to see Dick Grayson on third season. Just i can't wait first robin on this telltale's show and creating his relationship with batman :D Black mask should be main batman's enemy. For dessert killercroc and deathshot who are manipulated by black mask. Of course should be a possibility to change deathshot's side. For example Batman will start a investigate in case true identity deatshot. Then emotional speech "be the dad who will be a idol for your daughter". Justice League is awesome but before batman should meet Dick. I hope that will be fourth season with Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern :D Sorry for my english. I know that I wrote many mistake :D Sorry about that
I wonder when they're going to introduce Scarecrow. That's going to be fun.
Forget that I wonder when Robin or Batgirl are going to be introduce
Vigilante joker is the best Joker EVER ....... friends for LIFE.
DANG! I really wish I got that ending! That was way more awesome!
Nice, it’s hard finding people who does this so thank you XD
You're Welcome XD
Does this mean the Red Hood is born?
Much nicer batman than me lol. Well at least to the villains.