Painting VINYL Windows. Is it POSSIBLE?
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- Painting Window Frames. Can you paint vinyl or aluminum windows?
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Bro, I’ve been paying for 22 years and you’re still my Go To guy!!! I love your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Awesome I have to paint next week 3 windows frames, and I wasn't sure what to use, yall are the best.
Keep up the good work Chris!
Cool video, thank you for posting this. You have answered many of my questions. I have several Southside Pella windows I installed at my house 37 years ago. Yes, the Pella ceramic polymer paint has faded off the aluminum cladding. How long does a painted window treatment last? Three years?
Looks good. I'm thinking of painting my vinyl porch railings. Its a small porch, I'm wondering if theres anything I should look out for . Or is this even a good idea?
Love the videos boss. Keep it up.
I like the guy eating his beans or soup .... He's like "ya okay , you movie stars do your thing , I'm gonna eat some beans and get to work , lemme know when the movie's over , oh , and I didn't get my two breaks yesterday , so I get four today"
Hey, a man's gotta eat!
That was a good video on how things are done right. Nice job and thank you for the info.
Your welcome thanks for sharing!
Paint Life TV you didn’t explain of you just tinted the primer to seal brown , or if you top coated the primer afterward with something else
Spraying this pro industrial multi-surface acrylic, did you thin the paint. If yes, what ratio did you use?
I know this video is from 2018 but did you guys prime the windows before hand? we want to paint a Vinyl bay window black that was sandalwood. also can paint brushes work or do you need a sprayer. thanks
I’m going to do a project like this but it’s the inside. Did you try scratching the window to see if it didn’t peel off?
I am assuming that a Wagner home sprayer wouldn't be sufficient??? I would really like to have my vinyl, almond color windows, painted white. I have a Wagner, not a Graco. :( I also heard chalk paint would adhere to any surface? Any clue?
I live in the Atlanta area. Can I use that paint to paint my vinyl windows black, without damaging them from heat?
How much do you charge per window, and the front doors...?
did the windows warp? ive been thinking about painting my white windows black. i live in northern michigan.
Great video. Do you know any pros in orange county to paint windows?
Those look great!! Should of got panel-less style windows on my home, love mine but lately been liking this style more. And knowing you can actually paint them is pretty cool
Maybe i can have my panels removed down the road....?
Great upload!
Thank you so much. That was very helpful. I haven’t come across any companies that want to do this.
Because the set up will cost you a fortune and no one will warranty the work. I won't show up and quote you because I don't want a bad rap when you find out the quote and complain to everyone how expensive "that guy is"....
My company will
@@jedidiah5131 not to mention the fact that vinyl will warp over time...
How do you avoid the windows being stuck?
Is that a high gloss, gloss, semi gloss, eggshell or flat finish?
what kind of prime you guys use for vynil windows
I read where you aren’t supposed to paint vinyl windows a dark color bc it makes the vinyl warp. Is there anything to this?
We use pro cat a lot in schools. It holds very well.
This was a wholesome video
What's the Sherwin Williams color code?
What is the name of paint for aluminum frame or door ?
I went to the Sherwood- Williams paint Store requesting the same product shown in this video. They explained they don’t recommend black color paint on vinyl window. Painting exterior vinyl black will warp the vinyl or make the vinyl bubble. I had to get gray.
What about the darker “walnut” brown similar to what they used to paint windows in videos? I want black too…looks modern
@@lwalker9266 they said, anything but black.
Anyway, I ended up getting new windows instead. Painting them was a pain.
wow. Luckily I found this video. I was talking to my builder today, they quoted me 4000 Canadian Peso for all the windows exterior to be black. I thought the windows was different material until I found out it is just a paint coat. Great video. Thank you.
Was he quoting that to paint your window frames black...or full window replacements? Seems high for a trim paint job.
Does everything come up well? My hoa requires us to have dark color facing outside. The windows guy quoted me twice more than white. Any cons to paint it myself?
No matter how good the primer and paint, you MUST prepare properly which means light sanding with a fine (200 grit) sandpaper, then vacuum and clean/dry really well. Keep in mind, most window manufacturers (Andersen/Jeld-Wen) says the warranties are void if the original finish is painted. But of course, you can't wipe one's behind with their warranties anyway, so . . . it wouldn't stop me. However, I would use caution painting vinyl windows which are exposed to direct sunlight all year round. Also, I would avoid drastic color changes; like from white to black etc;, It's usually best to stick with similar colors.
Thanks for sharing
What is approx cost per window?
do you have to take the vinyl off?
Please show the finished look.
You are the man! What color is that housr
What does one window cost to paint??
Did you guys sand first or wipe the windows down first with a surface prep such as Wilbond or anything..I have some vinyl windows to do and I want to make sure I prep them right?
Watch again and listen carefully.
What was a ballpark price on that job?
Question: Wondering "why" the HVLP was not in the cards? My husband and I are planning this project and the HVLP is more economical. Would it work the same as the Graco, functionally?
they lack for laying quantity of paint. they provide the best finish though
Looking good
Didn't know John Cena does paint contracting.
After cleaning the windows with denatured alcohol did you go straight to applying paint or do you need to rinse the surface with water or a damp rag?
I wasn't sure if the denatured alcohol would interfere with your coating.
Also, did you apply your paint directly to the window or did you have to use a bonding primer?
You have to sand and priming first or the paint will come off
No primer. Watch again and listen carefully.
Great video. Thank you. Now I know I can have my vinyl window frames painted. Can you tell me what the colors are for this house, trim, and windows please. I would appreciate it…Thanks
He said the color was seal-skin a bronze type color….the color was mentioned when they said the previous builder ordered wrong color windows 😊
Do you water the paint down ?
Wow those paint guns are pretty sweet YEEYEE
can i have the link to buy your spray gun
What do you charge for painting windows
It would seem they are painting them the same color they were and they never warped before. or?
What primer is good for vinyl?? Before to spray with pro industrial multi surface
UMA
Since when does John Zenaida paint windows?
Can this be done on vinyl sliders as well? They get afternoon sun in the summer.
Yes
what primer and paint to paint my outside pvc window BLACK with a spray gun ....?
PPG Breakthrough
Thanks for the information. Would brush painting or roller painting work to paint vinyl window frames?
Bad idea
I’m wanting to paint my aluminum windows from white to a darker color. The house is in Florida, built in 2000 and the window frames (aluminum) are chalky when you rub your finger on them.
I’m not sure that I want to paint the actual window itself but just the frame on the exterior...what do you think? Would that look odd...part of the window interior being white and the outside frame being a darker grey/black color?
What do you recommend for painting them?
Hey Todd I might be able to help the situation. To me it sounds like you aren't actually talking about any part of the window but what is around it rather. If that is the case then you should look into getting your windows "wrapped". They will use an aluminum trim coil that you can pick the color for. It does not look weird at all having 2 different colors!
great video...
what is the longevity on this paint? lets say if you were to do like charcoal or black.
5 years
I've had no luck with that Graco sprayer. Sometimes it works fantastic, and but most of the time I get a terrible orange peel effect on everything. Using different tips doesn't change anything.
Edges of windows 🪟 painted ? When open the edges facing outwards be on show ?
Why not
I didn't think you could start/stop the sprayer on the workpiece without getting runs
What’s the battery life on one of those sprayers?
1 gallon of paint to a battery
Normaly between glass and frame there is black rubber seal. Are you painting it as well??
Yes you would
@@camdecorations9779 thats not good... if you have cold winters..
@@laukiami I know what your thinking but it doesn't actually affect the seals . It's only the top edge that has paint on it the rest of the seal does the job that its supposed to do.
Do you know if the paint is holding up well still after two years of UV and being exposed to weather?
Have not been back
@@Idahopainter if they haven't called you , must be doing okay .... right ???? Guarantee if it failed , you'd know !!
@@Idahopainter - Chris , I'm about to paint some brick (spray most likely) , debating HC colortop vs Loxon PAINT (I hear the Loxon Paint is thick) , I'll be working by myself .... I'm thinking the loxon might stipple with a back roll (I have to use heavy nap to get in those backset mortar joints) ... but my rep wants me to try the Loxon PAINT (not the primer , the paint) and is giving me a deal on it .... I saw your colortop and backBRUSHING with the soft brush video and I have used colortop a lot on cement (holds up well , good stuff) , but I'd like to TRY the Loxon paint , just worried I'm going to have a thick mess that stipples or streaks with a backroll or backbrush (I have to get in some deep mortar joints can't use short nap) .... I'm considering adding a WEE BIT of water and floetrol to help smooth things out maybe , even if I have to come back and spray a second finish coat to finalized since the first coat will be a bit thinner and soak in (might be a good thing actually) .... Got any ideas or tips ???
@@Idahopainter chis would you do it black if you were asked? I have 24 to do black over factory white. The black question is killing me. Please shoot back
What was the Acrylic paint you used?
Watch the video again and listen carefully. He even shows the can.
I'm currently painting some vinyl windows black and hearing a lot about the risk of them warping from the extra heat absorbed from the black paint is this a serious problem i need to worry about it looks like the windows painted in the video is quite dark, will they warp?
I did some research on this before and I know that paint stores do carry darker colors specific for vinyl applications and use a green base instead of straight black and it has an affect on how the plastic underneath handles direct sunlight and heat.
A lot of concern floating around, but if researched and done correctly with the right paint, it’s a creative solution.
Do we have to sand between each coat to give it a nice smooth look?
No answer yet?
@@williamterry3177 wth answer somebody lol
No, that’s why they use a paint sprayer gun
I've used some sort of light sanding on virtually every project I've painted for the past 40 years. There's no downside, and you mitigate any dust, hair, grit etc. that may have fallen on the surface. I like using those thin sanding sponge sheets from S-W, followed by vacuuming any dust, followed by a damp cloth or tack cloth. After the second coat the surface is usually like glass. Just shooting the unsanded surface with another coat cannot smooth out a pronounced lump.
Wondering if anyone knows if vinyl exterior windows will warp if painted black? I went into SW asking for PRO Industrial Multi surface acrylic as mentioned in this video & they gave me a very tough time when I told them it was to paint my windows. They were certain it would cause warping, but I’m not 100% convinced because the sales rep was a kid, not a contractor. I’m ok with taking a risk, seems to be a lot of contradicting opinions out there???
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Warping comes from heat. If you paint a white or light colored vinyl window black, or dark colors, instead of reflecting the light/heat, it will absorb the heat. So if you paint the windows in traditionally cold climate areas, or you have many large shade trees, large roof overhangs, porch, etc....you should be fine. If you are painting on the side of house that gets regular and direct sunlight, you could be in for problems, such as premature window replacements that can be expensive.
Thanks for the feedback, Doug!
I’ve have the same question? Talked to my local Sherwin Williams and they didn’t recommend the multi surface acrylic as it wasn’t recommended for use on vinyl, they suggested using Super Paint Exterior with a vinyl safe additive. How have these windows performed after a year using the pro industrial?
Did you paint them black this is my dilemma right now, I want to paint my vinyl windows black but they may warp to my understanding.
With great respect as I learn from you a lot, why didn't you remove the windows before painting? When the window be half open you'll see the vertical piece behind isn't fully painted?
Is it to meet a certain price expectation?
No critecizem here, just a simple question as I get situations like that in my work and I struggle there.
I understand what do you mean, thats bother me too..
remove windows? the issue you are speaking of is not an issue. there is a gasket that is the break between the glass and what he is painting. what he is doing is not different than if a customer orders a clad window with vinyl exterior and wood interior and both being different material and color. If you are speaking of the interior track where the window opens and closes, it would not be wise to paint that because the window would rub the paint off or even stick to the paint. not a wise to paint beyond what he is painting.
@@windygorge1 If he painted half of the track that the window will slide into when opening why then not paint the track where the window rests when its closed ?
Not using a special paint for vinyl ? It's going to warp in the sun if not formulated fur vinyl ...just a curious didn't hear anything mentioned ..hope just forgot to mention but it's a big deal when applied without
No its not
Any problems with the paint after it's applied ? Since it's sliding windows ? You do only the outside
Thank you ! Love your videos guys, helps a lot
Would have been nice if they explained the sliding windows part 👍🏼
Black color paint is not recommended for vinyl windows.
I went to Sherwin Williams for this paint and they said it wasn’t for Vynil finish. 🤷🏻♀️ I’m trying to paint the outside of my windows but realized today they are actually painted aluminum. Any chance you could recommend a type of paint?
Super paint vinyl safe paint
The title says for Vinyl windows but in his description he states these are aluminum windows….🤷🏼♀️
How do you open the window after it dries?
Cut the paint
They appear to be crank.out windows. I little tap as you're opening them and they will pop open. It's not a lot of build up of paint.
Expect to be coming back in 5 years to repaint them.
Any problems on vinyl windows over heating with dark colors?
Yes only use vinyl safe colors!
That's what I was afraid of, i have a customer that wants vinyl windows black!..
@@Idahopainter So black is out of the question on vinyl windows in GA?
I need the color number please
Didn't notice any surface prep like sanding or cleaning before painting?
He said he wiped down with denatured alcohol. No sanding necessary.
@@cjones22p Clyde, you win the award for letting people know that they either didn't watch the video or didn't pay attention. Good job because many didn't.
How do you paint in between the window where it is white as well?
They don't.....
What is the product from Sherwin Williams used here?
He says it about 4 times go watch the video again
Chad Rockman
So instead of writing it down to help me out, you chose to write a snarky comment instead-forcing me to read this and then rewatch the video. Thanks my fellow human being.
Yea I'm sorry i had a bad day...
PRO INDUSTRIAL - MULTI SURFACE ACRYLIC (color) Sealskin SW 7675
Julio Anrubio
Thanks
What spray gun are you using ?
It’s not about the spraygun it’s about the boots that he was wearing that day
Nice ! One more project added to your curriculum as a painter
one time a customer requested me to paint the stone vernier to match the color of the house Crazy request but they paid 4
They sometimes have weird ideas
It’s been almost 2 years, what’s the verdict?? Did the paint hold up?
That's what I want to know
nah....the windows warped and fell out
@@ThePianoreed that’s stooopid.
@@bizango99 lol..actually windows can warp that have had the vinyl painted.....just thought I'd answer as Paint Life TV isn't answering anyone
Can that paint be brushed?
Yes
Might not be relevant in your area but , my experience with painting anything vinyl you have to paint them a lighter color or they wrap in the sun.
@Brent Waits he is referring to sun exposure over time, and is correct. Heat factor causes the vinyl to lose integrity. Sorry, but poor video with zero value. No mention of house goe conditions, or how long the product is tested for vs experiences. Oddly, your painting the vinyl the same color.
@@philindeblanc He just said they've held up great in the past and the windows where already painted and faded. Hence the reason for them to need to be painted again.
That was years ago. You need to tell the paint manufacturer you are using that you will be painting vinyl and they will adjust formula accordingly. You can paint vinyl almost any color you want. Call sherwin williams or benjamin moore and verify it.
What tip you use?
Bell Family 310
I use a 210 it's more precise with windows
What about opening,the rebate will show.
must look like an orange peal
This is so sketchy, are you guys using a primer? Sanding the windows? Just knowing what a nightmare vinyl windows can become if not prepped right for paint makes me wonder how this turned out 1-2 years down the road.
You absolutely right , they skip sanding and priming , the people at Sherwin-Williams don’t know shit
Are you a painter? Please consult with a qualified sherwin williams rep or benjamin moore rep for reliable info.
Pigmentation on the pro industrial fades pretty fast. Would love to see an updated video on this house today
OK
Am dealing with a horrible experience with custom Simonton windows purchased through the Home Depot. I live in a community that has custom exterior color windows (dark brown). The windows come in white and have to be painted to match the color scheme. Although the windows look good on the outside, the interior portions of all of the windows have overspray. Vendor is stating that the overspray is so called "Standard" and is pushing back on remedying the matter. Am considering filing small claims lawsuit.
Lol that’s because you bought them from home cheapo.
How long did it last
Still going
@@Idahopainter nice to know,its always worried me to paint vinyl and especially exterior dark colors. Thanks for the info
Whats the guy eating ? lol
SpaghettiOs
i want to paint my windows, but i hate masking! can you come mask my windows then Ill paint. lol
How much you charge per window
Yenier Rodriguez $10
Haahah, 10 dollars, ridiculous
just a little less than what the customer can't afford to pay :-)
It pains me to see customers paint perfectly good knotty alder when it’s intended for stain. Aghh
Me too. What you covered the knots. I would walk away from the job
No bonding agent?
No the paint will bond to the window in the UK we have the same sort of paint, we do use a cleaning agent to make sure the surface is clean before we spray
They are counting on the selected paint to make the bond. Sounds like they were painting over previous paint (faded). I wouldn't bet my money on that lasting 5 years! If I painted direct to the vinyl window, I would prep with light sand of 200 grit, wipe with denatured alcohol and then use an adhesion promoter made for vinyl and plastics. That is what auto guys spray on bumpers and trim that are not metal prior to top coating. Allows for much better bond, and some flex without cracking as well. Bulldog makes an excellent adhesion promoter.
Don't like that fact you guys didnt show the windows in their original color (I assume white) nor the prep process, other than that, good information, specially when you can't find the original color windows from mid 80's to please the f**** HOA!!!
thanks for the video
He said in the video they were already a bronze color. Watch again and listen carefully
hello, show before!
Painting a plastic window that expands and contracts in brutal sunlight probably won’t work well lol
Why not? You can paint vinyl siding and that expands and contracts like a mother f. So.what the issue?
I bought some of that paint it sure is some watery stuff.
Yep
As a woodworker, I'm here to say that Bondo for any wood application is just plain wrong. It won't last and it *will* fail. Use something like System 3's putty or one of the other sculpting epoxies, there are many. Good luck
Thanks for sharing!
bull shit I've been a GC contractor for 15 year. And for those 15 years my self and others have used bondo and glazing putty. And not once had a problem or a call back if prepped, and applied properly and sealed it's perfect each and everytime.
In sun bondo will fail. wood contracts with hot and cold and will crack
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy, can you have a tuturial, on masking windows, especially the glass, thanks man, if you do it offcourse,, hehe
Been with you since beginning
Little hate, but still love what you have done and become. Thanks for giving a stupid proffession like painting a legitimate..?? Damnit, forget english
He's got lots of videos on masking windows...also your comment about painting being a stupid profession is just plain wrong.
purchase liquid masking. paint it on windows, ie french doors, 15 windows each. Pain it on let it dry, go to it with the paint, when dry peel masking off. Yea! it is wonderful.
Mark you are RUDE!
You should probably remove this video. Right after I watched it, I called in an order for the exact same color and product at Sherwin Williams. When I picked it up, the label they printed and stuck to the top of the can says “Not recommended for use on vinyl” with “Non Returnable Tinted Color” right below it. I thought I would try it anyways. It flakes off with my fingernail, even 3 days after I painted it. It’s a brand new window sitting in my garage waiting to be installed by our window company. Talk about upsetting... $55 down the drain, not to mention all the time and effort of removing it all now.
its the color you chose that is not safe for vinyl. All the labels say that unless its a vinyl safe formula. Paint takes at least 20 days to fully cure. There is a difference between dried and cured.
An adhesion primer wouldn't hurt, Sherwin makes "extreme bond" for problem surfaces. De-glossing also helps.
You have to let them know it will be used on vinyl and they will adjust formula. He used the correct paint in the video.
That's not a safe vinyl paint.