WHAT IS BEST? Diving lure or Planer Fishing with Bait Strip?
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- WHAT IS BEST? THE BATTLE OF THE LURES - Nomad (diving lure) or Planer with bait strip and sea witch?
Planer fishing can no doubt be intimating and require extra special equipment but is it worth it? We always thought so! Once we started planer fishing we were hooked on the technique! Many different species will go for a strip bait on a planer. Whether they are trash fish (like bait) or sushi grade fish (like wahoo) the method will produce. We were taught how to planer fish from working in the charter boat industry and generally speaking if a charter boat is taking the time to fish a specific way it's probably worth a try.
However, like anything there can and probably is a simpler and easier way to get the same results. So if a planer is a mechanism for presenting the bait or lure deeper beneath the water surface then what else would compare? We went straight for diving lures like Rapala's and Nomad lures. We asked our local tackle shop (Reel Deal Bait and Tackle in Pompano) for a comparable Nomad lure to give it a try! WATCH THE VIDEO FOR THE FINAL RESULTS!
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The battle was a bit unfair as the two lures are meant to me trolled at different speeds which results in an unfair battle. DTX Minnows are meant to be trolled faster. 👍
That was way too slow for the DTX. Great video though.
Yes totally agree, it was not a fair shake.
What's the right speed for the dtx minnow
can you make a quick video on how to rig the planer line? looked like two loops that used swivels to attach. beats hand-lining the fish, just never seen it up close. Thanks!
Yeah I'd love to see that. I don't like planers because of needing to hand line them.
They already have a video on it
Correct the did a video on it a couple years ago. Search “how to planer fish with wind on leader”
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Senior fish brain moment. At about the 7:24 mark Emily comments that the bonita ate itself. Three hours later it hits me what she meant. I was taking a nap, because that's what old people do, and it hit me, duh, bonita eats bonita bait. I'm so slow! Great video by the way.
Please do more lure battles... pretty cool
Been running a Nomad and a Yozuri Bonita plug for 2 years in the spread. Zero fish, zero strikes, fish come on sea witches with bait strips or islanders with the same/ballyhoo. Great channel!
You don’t have it rigged right. We destroy the wahoo with Nomads
@@cwill114 Rigged per Nomad, tried every way they recommend. They track straight, pull fine, nothing. I haven’t actually met anyone locally that uses them with any measure of success. Sea witch with a bait strip is the only consistent medicine. (Wahoo is a tough bite to pull here in general.)
@@F15Bluto you can’t pull it off nomad box specifics. Cable won’t get that plug down deep enough. Of course a planer with a Bonita strip will catch other Bonita but I’m pulling for real meat not bites. Only hardy fish eat a big 220 nomad. Little rigging tip, 65lb braid, 150lb top shot 25ft, 220lb leader to the nomad. No snap swivels. Only ball bearing and crimps. 👍🏻 if you don’t get bit with that… no wahoo in the area
@@cwill114 Yep, that’s how I rig them. Info is pretty well spelled out for that rig and a couple of other options on their TH-cam channel. They run, just won’t catch anything, they’ve been retired to a lure bag in the bottom of the closet. Best wahoo in my boat was on a blue/White Sea witch with a bait strip. I’ve run, 165, 185, 200, and 220 DTX, and mad macs, nothing. (Not just wahoo, no fish period.) Like the twins, I’ll stick with skirts and islanders.
@@F15Bluto it’s not the lure then. It’s your inability to find wahoo. Look what the twins caught… all Bonita. I could pull a flashing beer fan behind the boat with a hook in it and catch a Bonita. There’s no possible way you have rigged those plugs right and been in the right area and not caught a wahoo unless you don’t know how to find wahoo. Iv had 7 trips in a row before where I caught 2 or more wahoo on those trips pulling only nomads. Sounds like you all need some better bottom numbers and temp charts
I tried out a Nomad DTX 165 last season with my planar and wow! The catches on the Nomad were awesome. I had the opposite results with the Nomad. Blackfin, Mahi, Wahoo came on the DTX and the Planar nothing. Normally, we target the Wahoo on the planars and do very well, but for some reason, everything was going for the Nomad. Can't wait to see what this season has in store!
Wow that’s amazing! So you added the planer to the nomad?
@@GaleForceTwins Sorry if I mis-lead.....No, Planar is always out for the Wahoo with normal Wahoo lures like Ilanders with Ballyhoo/Blue Water Candy and Joe Shute type lures on one corner of the transom, the Nomad on the other corner only about 75' back.
*It's great caught caught a brown trout on the first cast. **enjoyable.fishing** recommend if it was a little smaller it would be more effective for different species*
I enjoy how competitive the two of you can be.
You ladies put so much work into your videos. Great job. I’m always looking forward to the next one.
Thank you so very much 😊
Good Video. Your info on the depth where fishing much appreciated. We will be in Marathon 1st week of May fishing all the areas that the weather-- wind permits. Your team work, boat hdlg and leader (wireman) are very good. Others can be frantic, dramatic and laughable. Both of you are personable, entertaining and professional. Yes, I enjoy your you tube Vids.
Amazing! Having the same results here in Costa Rica. Went through all my strips yesterday catching fish and the nomad caught 1! Just learning the planer cuz of I’m from California and we don’t use them but when I get home I’m gonna try them !
you guys are releasing some of the best sashimi possible...id take it over bluefin any day
I always used a high speed Green machine (with the lead head) lure behind my old 26’ shamrock when running offshore in MD, VA and NC. The boat would typically run 18 knots on most days. We would normally get a decent fish (bull dolphin or wahoo) on every other trip.
So try a lead head green machine against a different lead head skirted lure.
Make more videos like this. Love it. Battle of the lures!
I love watching your videos, you have so much fun doing them too which really shows and makes it even better to watch. I have a bunch of nomad lures so it was disappointing to see them not do well, they do great here in cape cod.
Can't believe how blue that water is! So jealous over here in the UK haha
You guys are awesome! Hello from Sydney Australia!
Great stuff!
yes i want to see the next battle rapala vs sea witch ..nice video
Thanks for sharing this fishing tips guys
I love how she dropped the drag to 1 pound so the fish took drag all with the jaw drop for effect hahaha. These young women are great captains and very knowledgeable. Great to see. Love the content on this channel.
Great video as always
Ladies another great video … interesting lure test too!
I think the game-changer was the real meat on the planer one. Anyways, the learning is; Using real bait(fish) catches always more.
Baitfish do win most of the time but slow pitch or vertical jigs out do them almost always unless you are trying to catch small fish
I fish the Great Lakes and when we use body baits we troll much slower because at faster speeds they will start rolling. Observe the lure behind your boat at trolling speed to make sure it doesn’t roll. When it starts rolling your line will twist as well.
It’s always been 50/50 for me with kings on skirts or diving plugs. Tuna and wahoo seem to hit the plugs more and football size tuna, Bonita and rainbow runners (all the bait fish) hit the skirts.
Try running them faster at 10-12knots.
Excellent video. On the West Coast, that planner on long range boats would be a great ploy, huge hindrance. We are using thecDTX minnows and they're catching Wahoo at a 6-1 ration over the next closest lure. We, long rangers?? We are die hard fanatics over successful lures. So, we are running 4 to 5 DTX Minnows across the stern in the troll rotations.
Absolutely love your videos. Much continued success to you Ladies.
What speed and how much line do you give out?
I’m in love with these two!
We need more videos like this
This is a really good video. I’ve been wondering which would work better too.👍
To make it a fair contest the nomad should have a bonita strip on it or no strip on the planer side.
Girls, tell your viewing public that the 2 different lures work best at different trolling speeds. One is High-speed trolling, (18-20 MPH) and the other without the planer is 12 to 14 MPH. Have a nice Day.
Cant wait to see the next VS episode
Wow, thanks for sharing video.
Great Video!
love the video! congrats!
A planer has always been my go to for kings,wahoo,tuna, and cobia will hit them also. I use a small one for spanish.
Nice vid. Very helpful.. Wish more vid Like this... Happy watching here in philippines🐳🐳🐳🐳
I love the Nomad DTX 200 Pink Mackerel, big producer behind my sailboat at 3-6kts.
Love y’all so much and enjoy your Chanelle
Came upon your videos when trying to figure out how to use an aquadive lure attachment as got two in a boot sale job lot but didn't know what they were for you girls call them planners but looks like the do work so I'll try these out to see the results in the uk 🇬🇧
Keep the videos coming
Frank 😂😅😊
Good job guys ,im one of your subscriber,
First class of the day....good job😘
Great video 📹
Noticed you guys started including aerial drone footage in your last few videos - nice touch!
Thank you!!
Love this video. I too have had better results fishing the sea witch planer combo vs the Nomads, however I did catch 1 wahoo on the Nomad. I believe I have lost several fish on the Nomad because of the diving lip and set hooks...
Australian lures designed to catch better species to what you call bonita. We call them Mac tuna and are pests.. The nomads are killer on dog tooth tuna, mackerel, wahoo, yellowfin etc.. the bigger ones will a lot of the time get avoided by Mac tuna.. and that’s a good thing😁 it should have been scored: barracuda-2 and Bonita-1 lol
Cool video though👍
DO you guys have a video on how to set-up a planner rig? If not, could you possibly do a video on that?
I second that. I have never seen a planer run in-line like you guys do it.
@@sergiorediaz bridle setup. take heavy hollow core an take a small high lb spro and tie off to your under braid. usually 200lb +. from there use white or blue braid for your bridle and make a splice and strengthen into it making a loop and into the spro swivel. pull the tag out of the splice and make a loop parallel to your piece of blue or white braid, and then a couple inches down re splice and serve, til your tag all the way down to the bottom and serve again. splice or crimp to heavy small spro heavy mono into hollow core, I use 220lb and run 100 or so feet to a heavy snap swivel, 1/4 oz egg weight, and a bead.
A new fan here!
There's a reason commercial and charter guys use planers... they're consistently effective. Of course, on the day you were out, looked like bonita everywhere... and just not sure they'd be interested in that huge Nomad. By the way... have you fished much with cedar plugs. It's old school, but ridiculously effective.
I notice the colour green usually attract kings. Looking forward to your next video.
Having fished multiple s in different sizes and colors, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxCbNOWAGmn6nfbCbJDmasvBq7J38KZNw2 this is by far my favorite. One thing to be aware of is the sided willow blade. One side is silver and the other is the green/orange shown. This is not bad, just unconventional. In terms of fishing, I have found the lure works just fine without a tail like a craw or shad. That addition is up to you. Also, the hook part where you attach the swivel snap or tie the line is a problem on baits these days, since it's able to slide up and down. However this lure seems to be tight enough that that doesn't happen often, and you can solve it by putting a thin slice of medical tube over the hook before attaching the line. Like others have said, it's really magic on a good windy day.
I think the baits were both around 30 ft deep but a strip with a sea witch. Will always beat a plastic with those big wahoo hooks. Should have seen what they did in the whole spread. You gals are the best though I’ve learned a lot.
Thanks!
Amazing 😊 thank you for the support!
Question: Do you ladies carry a third option when going on Yankee Capt's trips for closer to the boat / closer to the surface fish? If so or if not what would be an rod and reel option you would consider for this type of fishing? Thanks
Good beautiful fishing
Yes!!!! More Battle of the Lures!!!!! Any.... you pick!
Somehow after seeing that Voting Poll, I knew you girls would post this video.
Galeforcetwins are to badass beastess, 10/10 would go on a fishing trip. Nice video!
Cool video, nice to see some young women that actually know fishing doing well in YT. I pull big plugs alot and you don't get as much bycatch or numbers sometimes but the biggest baddest fish will smoke those plugs.
That finger nail is on the index finger for number One.
Hi its Dylan my dad is Michael thank you so much for the reply, and advice.😀
I've always used a big yo zuri in the prism finish. I'd love to see y'all put that up against something.
Hi Cales,
“ first and fir the most “
Thanks for your videos so good
This is the first time I watch anglers girls 👧
I started to follow your vids, keep going
Beutiful ladie angler 😍😍 good luck amanda & emilly
Beutiful videos with a good vibe coming at you like Shockwave. I'm wondering what rod are you girls using and what line on them and what reels .
Well thought out and Good job on making this video, very helpful and interesting. Do you think they were trolling at the same depth?
I think that was the whole point of the video...the success of which lure ran at deeper depth at the same trolling speed.
Great video, Great Job! I also fish in the Florida Keys and have not had much luck with Nomads; there marketing is really good and I think designed to 'catch the fisherman' resulting in a sale as opposed to 'catching the fish'?? hahaha
I like it,i love it,,nice vidio
when are you going to add trolling motor to boat?
and you very really new use out riggers when video's do you use them on charters?
You girls are the best.
My dad and I truly love watching you and your sisters channel. We do quite a bit of offshore fishing and I just wanted to clarify and possibly you two could do a little excerpt on it. Are you sure that what you were catching was Bonito???? Vs false albacore??? Those sure looked like Little Tunys. Just wondering because we caught a cooler full of Bonito and one of the biggest differences are the presence of teeth(Bonito). Would love to clarify. Keep up the awesome work!
Yes! That was definitely a false albacore. Their nickname is bonito! Not sure why but it’s part of the fishery by us and everyone refers to them as bonitos 🤷🏼♀️
Nice Video
Loved the video but was wondering what the big structure was in the background was it an oil rig. And planer won the day then
@galeforcetwins nice video. Which Accurate is that? Boss 50 2 speed?
Bought 1st ocean boat this year SF 228 and have been launching and beginning fishing at Biscayne NP. The water isn't very deep would a planer be useful? Is trolling used there?
Like the video but definitely think going offshore several trips and blend them with different conditions would make a more comprehensive science project 🤔
Amanda and Emily Be safe on the water!!!
How fast are you trolling? there as a few bluefins caught yesterday in northern California with Madmacs lures, but they were running 12-14 Knots
Nice one lady anglers 😍
Would you mind telling the planer size you were using and how fast you were trolling with it? Thanks...
number 4 they are going around 7-9 knots
gotta do this at 7am.....wahoo usually bite in the AM unless you find a floater or palette
Would you send create a video on how to build and connect that removable planer?
Here it is :) th-cam.com/video/oHkF8VxDl60/w-d-xo.html
It's amazing
If I may and maybe you have already mentioned, what brand on seawitch and squid jig. Thanks in advance. 😁🎣
I part-time crew on a 60ft charter sailing yacht, we always put some lines out when we are sailing.
The best fish I caught was a 23lbs Mahi on just a small pink blue and white squid lure, skimming the surface.
I do have a question, does the speed you sail matters in what kind of fish you can catch?
We only catch what we can eat.
Yes wahoo like it deep and 14 knots
@@davidharris8797 Dang it I love Wahoo, however doing 14 knots sailing is very rare.
I never have much luck pulling plugs below nine knots, those sharp eyed ocean fish can see its fake going that slow in clear water, I’ve been wanting to try something I used for years on trolling plugs for king salmon, next time I go out trolling below nine knots I’m going to belly wrap my plugs with Bonita to give it scent.
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I like these tests where you either compare one technique against another or against each other. It would be fun to see a little contest where you would each reef fish with a couple of the cheapest rods and reels around like a Zebco closed face reel and a cheap spinning outfit and see who can catch the most and the biggest on really light tackle.
What am I missing? One rig had a bait strip and the other no such additive? Real bait always adds an advantage, doesn't it?
The Nomad and the planer used no bait, when you are trolling, live bait would be "washed out".
The second catch looks closely like a Wavy Back tuna, we have them here in Hawaii called Kawakawa (w-pronounced as v )and they make good sashimi,not trash fish,what you have there is the close cousin called Atlantic "Bonito",but if you know its a female ,I suppose you could call it Bonita
Those aren’t Atlantic bonito they’re called little tunny or false albacore. They call them Bonita here in South Florida.
@@randybeltran6607 Yes I was wrong to call them Atlantic Bonito but they "are" related to Wavy back or Mackerel Tuna "Euthynnus affinis" and Little Tunny"Euthynnus alletteratus",they look almost Identical and both are actually in the tuna family
What is the average speed you use for trolling?
That was a big skipjack. That's what we call them here in SoCal 👊🏻
We have little Skipjacks in Florida also
That was a Bonita
Take a closer look 👍
Actually look 👀 them both up 🤔
Well the Bonito here are not the same as the ones you have there but still really fun to catch.
Amanda, Emily awesome video 😍 loved it ,be safe and have fun always #AFANALWAYS
could you talk about trolling poppers?
What is that black piece on top of rod?
Is it really a fair comparison when one lure has a Bonito strip?
Where do you source the extra long shank hooks you use with the bonito strips?
I'm not the twins, but, any Bait and Tackle should be able to set you up.
Bait fishing usually wins, no surprise. I once tried calamare strips- nada :)
Can I see your planner set up how’s it work I see u unclipped it