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Things don't seem to be going so well for Toyota in the Chinese market. you can say of course if you want that it depends on rules and Chinese politics etc. Then it is also said that the Chinese want high-tech cars. So a person who can say you have to replace the latest processor or I will return the car. Things are also going badly for the likes of Volkswagen
@@Andersljungberg who cares about the China? This is the United States. China is far more advanced than the United States and by decades. China has highspeed bullet train technology which is also fully electric. America? Not available! Leave china out of this. They are above the american grade....
Living in northern New England anyone purchasing an EV can cut in half their EV’s range during the winter. The manufacturer should be required to give estimates based on the average temps of the regions the vehicle is being sold in.
Try living in MN when it's -20. I'll bet you get 1/3 of the range. If they were cheaper than ICE cars then it would make sense, but paying that kind of money for a giant iPhone is peak stupidity.
All ICE cars are 35% efficient in cold temperatures. So you loose range for heating your engine and cabin. It’s less an issue with EV cars but the batteries and the cabin must be heated as well. This is why good EV’s use heat pumps instead of resistive cabin heaters. I always replaced my Sumer tires on my performance ICE cars around 25k miles. It will be 20% better with my Tesla Model Y performance 21 inch tires. Tires are staggered. Brakes are doing great thanks to regenerative braking.
Real life tests show a range drop of about 20% when driving in temps in the teens vs driving at 70F. Mostly due to having to heat the cabin, so if you can live with being cold, the difference will be less. Anyone reporting a drop in half heeds to have their EV checked out.
I wanted an EV until I realized just how crooked the companies were about maintenance, they just wanna make boat loads of money off of people. Not to mention the fact that almost all EVs are unaffordable for the average American. I bought my dream car recently, 2003 Toyota Tacoma with a V6…couldn’t be happier!
In a capitalist society, there are choices. If you choose to pay more, that's on you. Also, the best businesses don't scalp their customers. Being wise with finances frees up money to support other businesses that aren't selling cars. The batteries of today are like steam was to internal combustion engines, comparing the cumbersome and expensive batteries we have now, compared to much superior future batteries made from less costly materials. Anyone stuck with the lithium batteries will be at a disadvantage. EV's aren't really "there", yet. You wait. Sometime in the near future, there will be a breakthrough in batteries, and you'll be stuck with a severely depreciated Tesla, worth a couple grand. It's not about capitalism. It's about how you blow your money.
you're going to hell for polluting though, so it wasn't worth it. God has no mercy for those that pollute his world. The fires of hell await. No, wait a minute, God loves smoke going up to heaven. I got it backwards
Automakers are doing their best to make that true for ICE vehicles as well. A lot of stuff we used to work on is now much more difficult, which means fewer and fewer people are making those repairs themselves. Just look at what you have to take apart to fix the actuators in the dash for heat/A/C issues. You have to take half the car apart on some models.
@@bluecollarnobody4217 It's no problem for people that like to work on cars, but for the average person, a lot of repairs are too much, especially if they need that vehicle for commuting. Most things, you used to get done in a day, now you could have your vehicle out of commission for a week trying to figure it all out.
I have a 2013 Tesla my garage with 165,000 miles. It’s been completely maintenance free and the only thing I’ve done is tires and windshield wipers. It’s on its original battery. Don’t believe all the hate you hear from people.
He was wrong on a few points. 1) Even on long trips you do not want to charge to 100%. You will actually save more total time charging to 80% and charging more often. The last 20% takes longer than making another stop and charging back to 80% 2) The EV version of the similar gas version of a car is not 2-3 times more as he claims. Not even close. They are 1.4% more on the average for a comparable care. 2 times would be 100% more. Average purchase price for all ICE vehicles is $45k while an EV is $61k. That is only 35% more or 1.35 times more. So he is way off on this statement. 3) Batteries practically never need to be changed.
EVs shouldn’t be anti diy but the problem is everything has been going that way. This isn’t an issue inherent to EVs, but rather the consumer market. EVs could be super friendly to repairs. Especially given they’re so much more simple.
@@nicolas277 you can blow up a gasoline car or engine can blow up in your face. All diy have a risk when you don't pay attention or don't know what you are doing.
@@marinostsalis314FACTS, no Matter gasoline powered or electric, both can blow up or explode when the one doing the work don't know the work he's doing.
Battery in an EV is more like 15-20k. Stick with an older GM model and you won’t have to replace engines. In the unlikelihood you would, most were mass produced and relatively inexpensive. If you’re driving a German car, well that’s on you. How much do you think a battery for a German EV will cost? My guess is anywhere from 2-5 times any other. Once you realize EV’s are not the answer, you’ll think clearly.
I'm not ready to make a major life change, my car has almost a 500 mile range. By the time I need fuel its time for a break😊 Also my tires last 80,000 miles, thank you Michelin. How are low income families going to afford an EV with all the Proprietory Service and Parts at the Stealerships?
@@ducthman4737 Nope, they want to contain the population in urban areas. Much easier to keep tabs on us and socially engineer the population. They want you on trains and bikes. Trust me, you'll love it.
It is becoming more apparent that this is a class issue. Not exclusively a class issue, like some social commentators would have you believe. But, it is becoming more obvious that the shift to EV will have 'unintended consequences'.
@@ducthman4737prices will continue to drop for EVs as the tech evolves. Especially with Tesla in the game with such large margins slamming the whole market down hurting other companies for a show of power lol.
@@devinmurray5280 Insurances will get more expensive. Electricity will get much more expensive and less available if the 'green' climate stupidity continuous. Inflation will get much worse destroying the purchasing power of the fiat money. It doesn't matter how cheap they become as long as your paycheck is not enough to cover the basics.
This is why hybrids are better. A small 4cyl getting 40mpg for long trips and smaller battery with a generator on the same 4cyl for when you need high torque and city driving. Going pure electric was a bad idea from the start.
Good luck with you on that thought. Just wait till your need electric parts replaced etc. I am buying a Corolla Cross as we speak. No hybrid, please. Besides, you can and will be waiting up to 2 years for one of those puppies from Toyota. Especially Toyota Canada. I am at the 13/14 month waiting mark for my new vehicle. I hope to get it before September. I bought it on July 20th, 2022! Ya ...
My Nissan leaf is 10 years old, and its lost 2% per year, no cooling systems for the battery. And this is 10 year old chemistry, i bought it second hand and its paid for itself in fuel savings, serviced nothing , changed no brake pads, just tyres as they were old but not worn out. i have saved a bucket! I charge on solar for weekends and ev rates during the week. I still own my old clunker from 2005 as my long distance horse. I use it 3 or 4 times a year. but its not everyones cup of tea. Great for city use.
the best compliment I can give - I went into this thinking that it was gonna be a hatchet job against EVs, but instead, you have an honest assessment of the pros and cons. Much appreciated, Scotty.
Nearly all modern batteries have computer controllers behind their charging leads that report that the battery is "fully drained" around 20% and "fully charged" around 80%. So, the battery itself prevents overcharging or undercharging in order to prevent a "floor" from being formed that reduces capacity. So, it's not really something the customer needs to think about. But, it doesn't hurt not to charge or drain more than necessary. This isn't just true of EV batteries, but even the battery on your battery powered impact wrench or drill. If you have a battery and leave it on the shelf for a year, it can drain lower than the chip would want to allow due to "float" (battery energy leaking out into the air). If this happens the battery charger will report "bad battery" when you attempt to charge it as the controller chip in the battery won't let it charge. But, with most of these batteries you can also leak a little charge in while the battery controller is in self-test mode. So, you can re-animate the battery (or bring it back to life) by repeatedly plugging in the charger, unplugging it when it reports bad battery, then re-plugging it again or by connecting another battery to it and disconnecting/reconnecting that 2nd battery in the same fashion. Each time the "dead"/"bad" battery will gain a little more charge during the internal testing cycle and eventually it will get over the magical percentage where the battery controller chip is comfortable letting it be "fully" charged by the charger as a good battery.
I've had my EV for seven years. Only maintenance has been a new set of tires and topping off fluids. I charge it with solar on my property during the day when the sun's up. Haven't been to a gas station in seven years. Love how fast and responsive it is in trafic. I live in California where we have fantastic EV rebates. May not be the best car for northern climates, but rocks in CA!
Yeah CA is an ideal place for EVs to do what they do best. But to really maximize benefits you do still need shaded off road parking, at least level 2 charging, solar to offset costs and to be at home during the day when most people are out commuting to work to charge it at peak solar hours.
East coast EV driver, 4 years, 42k miles. maintenance needs: tires, cabin filters, wiper fluid. Avg 4.2 miles per kw. So about $450 a year for 10k miles. 95% charging at home.
Also important to factor in operating costs. I drive about 60 miles a day for work, and have a 2009 hundai elantra that makes decent efficiency at about 30mpg. 300 miles a week x 50 working weeks is 15,000 miles a year. Gas in my state(washington) is about 5 a gallon. This means i speand 2,500 a year on gas to ONLY go to work. If i spent 26,400 extra for an ev and a decent set of solar panels (about 10k) i would break even after 10 years, not including the fact that gas will never go down in price and the panels would save me a small fortune on my electrical bill.
@@therabidsquirrelsage3388 Cars in the $40,000 + range are in the stratosphere from my point of view and pay grade. Facts hurt. (Whatever tf that's supposed to mean). 🙄
@@WhiteTiger333 but you said you'd be paying $20,000 more for an EV. I'm sorry you weren't successful enough to afford even the average car in America much less an electric vehicle which is $7,000 cheaper But that still doesn't mean that other people have to pay $20,000 more for an EV. Nice try though
One issue with many EVs, is the brake light behavior when regen braking. Some will not activate the light. EV makers need to make it so that when slowing at a quicker rate than an ICE car coasts and loses momentum while coasting then the light should come on.
@@scottgaree7667 If Tesla added it, then that is good, though I think a number of other EV makers still either don't turn on the light, or only do it if it is set to the max possible regen setting. As for vehicles with a manual transmission, they may be less common, especially on more crowded roads. For example, imagine how punishing the experience would be in trying to use a manual transmission in or near any moderately sized city where there is a chance of encountering slow or worse, stop and go traffic.
@@Razor2048 It's not that big a deal. I drove manuals for many years in Houston and Dallas. It becomes 2nd nature. I miss having a standard tranny in my truck.
Like all other types of vehicles, battery operated vehicles have their place, for certain drivers, under certain conditions. They are *not* going to replace all vehicles.
I have a pile of friends who own one or more Tesla’s and an equal pile that own Toyota hybrids. I own a 2022 RAV4 Hybrid. The common responses from my EV owning friends are, 1) that absolutely love never having to go to a gas station, 2) 90+% of their daily driving is easily covered by charging at home overnight or during the day on weekends, 3) tires and occasionally wipers…that’s it…zero maintenance, 4) absolutely love the responsiveness and handling in all seasons, 5) they love the quiet ride, 6) they unanimously ignore Tesla haters who have never even opened the door of an EV, never mind actually experienced one. Why did I mention the Toyota hybrids? Because they have proven that the batteries simply outlast gas engines hands down across the board. Driving back from PA last week I came across a totally burned to the ground pickup sitting on the side of the highway. Not smashed, just completely burnt end to end. I guarantee you that if that had been a Tesla it would have made national headlines with every EV hater screaming about exploding batteries. Crickets though when it is your off-the-shelf Chevy pickup. Yes, I also own a 2011 Silverado with 270k on it (my 4th and last one). Rusted on every panel, rattling in every corner, constant check engine lights, and a cloud of smoke every time it starts. A downside to EVs? Put that kind of a blistering acceleration into the hands of your average new teen driver and everyone will be blaming the car for the mishaps that are absolutely going to happen.
EV’s are perfect for 90% of urban residents. Am I going to go on a long trip with one? Not at all! I’ll use my hybrid for that. The concerns with EV’s are legitimate for those considering spending that much money on something they haven’t experienced. I recommend people try the Model 3 cheapie before stepping it up. I greatly enjoy and love the Model S.
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
I am a superintendent at a new EV battery plant currently being built, cant say what or where. That being said, off the record we all know this is the swan song, they will go broke . No one wants this
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
@@thomascunningham111and gas cars contain gas. A FLAMABLE liquid as well that can ignite to sparks. There have been plenty of normal car fires. Idk why people act like evs are special. We've all seen clips of gas cars burning
I have a 2017 Ford Focus Electric, 105-115 miles EPA rating. Car is now 6 years old with 61,000 miles. Maintenance so far is one set of tires, Pirelli P7 $600 installed and 2 cabin air filters. I do rotate the tires about every 6k miles myself. Range estimate when I got in today after a full charge was 125 miles. Recent driving gave me 112 miles with 7% battery remaining. This is all with A/C running in the 90F+ heat. Full charge at $0.13 per Kw where I live is about $4. Don't know about that 2.5%/year battery degradation statistic you threw out, but I have not experienced anything measurable yet. I also rarely use dc fast chargers, so that really helps. I am sure hoping to be driving this vehicle for at least another 6 years worry and maintenance free except for that pesky first maintenance at 100,000 miles of a coolant change for the batteries. I will never go back to ICE.
Why don't they bring back the Datsun B-210 it used to get 39 miles to the gallon. It was a great little car for around town and short trips.And only cost around 1900 to 2400 dollars. They sold a lot of them better than the worthless Chevy VEGA.
I did a head gasket on one after it overheated from a heater core leak. Resurfaced head an put in a new gasket. The carburetor was junk and replaced it with a Weber kit.
@chrismitchell6274 Agreed! The fumes from a battery fire are extremely toxic. Also, the only tool firefighters really have to try and extinguish them is foam which includes toxic PFAS "forever" chemicals. There are currently several lawsuits in the USA over PFAS causing both cancer in firefighters and regular people that drank water contaminated with them. If PFAS containing foam starts being frequently used to extinguish EV fires all over the USA, significant water contamination (and an increase in cancer rates) will occur in my understanding.
There is no experience yet on repairability of an EV after an accident. Scotty says to keep the EV out of the sun, but I would not store an EV in a garage connected to my house. After an accident, Who knows how fragile the battery is and whether it is more prone to fire. Will homeowners insurance increase for those with EVs? Time will tell.
Actually insurance companies charge less for insurance on EVs. But that's because insurance companies make their decisions based on facts not political identity. 😂
I rented a Tesla for a trip I was on in another state, thought I’d give it a try. The least intuitive driving experience ever. I had to look up videos on how to turn the windshield wipers on!
All Tesla models have a pretty obvious wiper toggle right by the steering wheel, I don't recall any that doesn't have one. And all uses the exact same symbols as you see on any other car. So if you're struggling to turn it on, oh boy, it doesn't look good... on you... not the car.
So how does one adjust the wiper speed without the touchscreen? It's an automatic $300 fine for distracted driving in most locales if the officer sees you using the touchscreen while driving.
You literally just push the button on the steering wheel and tell it to turn them on. Best vehicle in the plantet. Got model Y 2 weeks ago. Never going back. Who would ever buy a mustang anymore? Not me
@@Timmymao163cops do the same all the time with their screens lol. I was a cop and only a dbag would get someone for that imo. Can just push the button on the steering wheel and say "turn on wipers" and boom it does it. Many voice commands. Got first EV 2 weeks ago (model Y) quicker than my dad's GT 500 and easily fits family of 4. There's no going back IMHO. Old muscle cars are unique and interesting but why would anyone buy a mustang or Corvette instead of Tesla?
shame he's got no clue about the cars though the instant torque is not free it wears out the electrical cable for the motor in as little as 5 years yeah you heard right you need to require the car regularly if you driving it like a jackrabbit.🤣🤣🤣
In the last twenty years of driving, I have experienced in a repmobile: - Dual Mass Flywheel failure resulting in crank failure - EGR valve failure - Injector Failure (twice) - Cam Belt failure (after dodgy cam belt service by dealer) - Two clutches Worn out and replaced - Several sets of brake disks and pads - Numerous oil leaks - Alternator (causing a fire which ended the car) - Coil packs In four years of EV: .................
The amount of research and information in this video is something you can take with you to a EV dealership and really give them a run on their knowledge. Thank you.
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
I have a 2018 model 3. Only two minor issues so far. Had the motor for the charging flap replaced and the low voltage battery. Build quality was not a issue as well. Tires have held up extremely well too. I will probably replace next year
I jinxed myself. The Power Coversion System failed a few days ago and they quoted me an estimate of $1900. I can still charge but at reduced speeds. I'm going to get it fixed Monday before it becomes a bigger problem.
How are the rear shocks on the Model 3? Every Uber I've taken who had a model 3 felt like the shocks had leaked dry 10 years ago and they continued using them
I have learned never buy the first few model years. Wait about 3-5 years. If it's a new generation of the car... wait a couple. At least... don't buy the first model year ever.
I have been watching your videos for awhile and never commented but, I just wanted to tell you, I appreciate all the info you compiled for this video. As for me I will keep driving my gas vehicle as long as possible. Thx.
You need to factor in the fuel savings. Having solar on my house makes it basically free to recharge the cars batteries. When on a road trip, charging at tesla charging stations is inexpensive compared to gasoline prices.
Here's my opinion EVs are a solution to no problems, if anything they cause more problems They're more expensive than real cars, and overall they're a waste of money
All in all, everyone's going to have to dig pocket deeper when you buy a car, and they want all vehicles to Be EV. And, your electric bill is going to zoom straight upward very high.
AutoInsuranceEZ studied the frequency of fires-from all causes, including collisions-in automobiles in 2021. It found that hybrid vehicles, which have an internal combustion engine and an electric motor, had the most fires per 100,000 vehicles (3475), while vehicles with just an internal combustion engine placed second (1530 per 100,000). Fully electric vehicles had the fewest: 25 per 100,000. These findings were based on data from the National Transportation Safety Board and the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.
How long does it take to put out a battery operated car fire, compared to a regular vehicle? Good luck getting a battery thermal runaway fire under control with a fire extinguisher.
Unfortunately, the technology as well as the infrastructure have a lot of catching up to do. Petroleum will be with us for the long term, especially given how many modes of transportation that can't be electrified anytime soon rely on it.
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
Another cost difference is that I can do much of the maintenance and repair work on my gas-powered vehicle, I don't think the same is true with an electric vehicle.
love your channel scotty, but you're not always correct, electric batteries don't last just for 10 years, they last far more than that, my coworker's 10 year old nissan leaf has only dropped to 93% battery life span, it only lost 7% full charge in 10 years and this is just the cheapest built nissan leaf. He doesn't fast charge, and drives it in ECO. also, toyota BZ4X in canada offers 10 year or 240,000 km battery warranty, as well as guarantees battery lifespan of minimum 90% after 10 years or replacement is free.
A very professional & concise vlog, thanks. One thing you did not mention was the massive depreciation of EV's, & the fact that the range you can achieve is never the range quoted by the manufacturers. Also, if you live in a part of the country where you have snow every winter, your range will decrease even more, as using the heater, plus the cold detracts your range further, as does towing. Most EV owners believe they are being 'green' by operating one, but the electricity used to charge them invariably comes from coal fired power stations. Are EV's the future? Never in a million years.
@@mplslawnguy3389 really because the car recommends that, the owners manual for the lfe cars recommend that and the online users manual recommends that. LFE is far more durable and can handle full charging.
In notification yes you can see it reach 100%, but its just a flaw, its just a trick that makes you think its still fine. For example, just see at your phone. Even if you charge it once in two days. In 10 years it will drain faster. So you need to replace the battery, when the battery it self is cost more than your old ev car value 😂😂😂. So every 10 years or more you bought new cars?? Its a car not a toys, yes if you live in 1st world country, when the price of a car isnt as high as other countries, and you gain more salary compare to other countries, you can.
When the first railway opened in the world in 1825 - The Stockton to Darlington in the UK there were people saying that trains would be a disaster. Claims from people will suffocate at speeds in excess of 25 miles an hour to the technology was incredibly dangerous. When the car first appeared in the early 20th century again there were claims it was a useless, dangerous and hopeless technology and a rich man’s toy. We were told the same about cell phones in the early 80s and how they would never replace fixed land line telephones. The truth is electric cars are already cheaper than traditional cars when you include the cost of maintenance and running. Soon they will be much cheaper to buy too as the new technology is ramped up. There has always been Luddite’s and vested interests who hate change.
Electric Drive Unit had to be replaced at 160k miles. Chevy wanted 10-12k for replacement and ended up swapping it out myself with help for 1600$ parts and labor. Remember to read the manual, electric drive unit requires flushing and replacing the oil at 150k miles depending on electric motor. While batteries are a concern of cost, the modules can be replaced and the battery does drop out of the vehicle much easier than replacing an ice engine. Also to note , wheel bearings and suspension tend to be areas of preventative maintenance in high mileage cars including EVs. Electric vehicles overall require much less hassle and maintenance from my experience driving high mileage electric vehicles. The Tesla newer models are already rated for 1 million miles already if I’m not mistaken.
I have an electric car (BMW i3) that I got used for one reason. Here in southern California I sit in constant traffic and hate the idea of continuing to spend up to 6$ a gallon on fuel that is burned and gone. These gas prices are the reason I bought my i3, it helps that it is a relatively inexpensive ev as well.
On all my more modern cars, tyre rotation has not been possible because firstly, they are directional and secondly the rears have been wider than the front
Don't park your ev in the sun? Who can avoid that? Every car I've owned sat in full sun all day while I work. I've never worked anywhere that had shade to park in. My uncle parked his mini van under a tree at his house. He asked me to help him take dashboard apart. There was pounds of leaves under dashboard, almost a whole garbage bag full. How they didn't start fire idk
I think people forget people live in apartments. I wouldn't be able to charge my car overnight and spend more time away from work/home tryna charge the car. It's just impractical
the government built chargers (electrify america) half of the chargers dont work and have left people stranded. Its all over youtube where some channels test these scenarios for us. One guy bought a lightning for 1200 mile road trip and he ran into that issue and ended up having it towed to dealership and renting an ice vehicle to finish the trip. He spent $130K just to own one lol
People say that electric cars get worse range in the winter; so does my gas vehicle. Winter blended gasoline combined with warm ups make my gas mileage drop 6 miles a gallon in the winter. This is calculated WITHOUT using the computer to calculate my mileage. Use math, it doesn't lie.
Honda has accords built for 1 Million miles or 40 years. I see 40-year-old accords on the road every week. Plenty of Hondas reach a million miles. Good luck GM.
Please send some million mile vibes in the direction of my Honda, I'm at 286k right now and that would be amazing. (I'm happy if it makes it over 300, just trying to stay on top of maintenance...)
@@jenelaina5665 from 286k (demonstrating competent manufacturing, operation, & maintenance), your car’s probability of reaching 300k seems to exceed 50%🍀
@@nelsblair2667 Mechanic friend who found me the car and had Hondas (and got his jeep up to 300k, how?) looked it up and down when I got it around 240k and did initial work. I've had it to two other shops + dealer since for various things and checks since. Knock on wood nothing major yet but: 1. Yes 2. No should I? 3. Yes, being on top of all fluids was the main takeaway I've heard from mechanic friend and folks familiar with high mile Hondas since and been doing my best on that in particular. 4. Um, no, why would I?
Sorry, Dude. I owned an 84 accord. After one year the back seat was sun baked so bad, that the threading had disintegrated. Also it was rusting out, in Nevada! I also had to replace the rack & pinion at 100,000 miles. But the best part was the trade in value in ‘87. I got $6,500 on trade in.
5 years ago: "An EV battery only lasts 5 years and then you're screwed." 4 years ago: "After 6 years you have to pay a gazillion dollars." 3 years ago: "But what after 7 years when the battery dies?" 2 years ago: "You might have warranty for 8 years but after that it will immediately explode!" Today: "EV batteries can last up to 10 years." 2028: "They said on the news that you have to change the battery after 15 years."
A car such as a Tesla can have the software upgraded with new functions so you get a completely new software so it's almost as if the car were new. So for those who want a smartphone on four wheels
Yeah like all the battery in smartphone, every year it will drop, in 10 years it need to replace the battery/toss it in the trash, because the battery price was higher than your old ev car value.
If you look at people with the first generation model S. Their batteries still had decent range only losing about 6-12% after 10 years of use. Most people keep their cars for an average of 7 to 8 years. And the heavy users. Still had more than 82% health after 10 years of use. It's all about how well the BMS, cooling system and power control work.
The problem is that this avarage is pulled up by upper middle class and rich people who can afford changing their vehicle every couple of years. The working class in America is using the same car for about 15 years. Regular folk will be forced to buy a new vehicle once they get into EVs simply because those cars will come with a busted battery.
My work place went from office to work from home at the start of the pandemic. I'm in a department that has officially gone hybrid where we go in once a week. As a result I probably drive 3,000 Km (roughly 2000 miles) a year now. I drive a fuel efficient CUV with a 2 litre engine that gets really good economy and is paid for. My experience with lithium ion batteries in phones, tools, laptops and the like is 3-5 years before it's just too much hassle to always remove from tool and store in charger when not using. I won't save that $12,000 in 5 years on gas. For maintenance every spring and fall oil change, tire swap since I live in a place that gets snow and a good once over. Cheaper to replace a weeping rad hose than cook the engine.
Got a Bolt and PHEV Pacifica. I did the math and, as long as we charge overnight (EV rate plan) the equivalent cost (based on a gas powered Spark and normal Pacifica) works out to approximately 91¢/gallon under electric power during nice weather. (Alternatively, if we charge off of our normal house electric plan, it works out to about $1.90/gallon.) (Edit: Location = South East Michigan)
@@tonystormcloud6889 How would you know that I don't want a new garage? Besides, statistically, I've got better odds of winning the daily four drawing if I were to buy one single ticket in my lifetime. Regardless, not looking to hug a tree, just got sick of having to change oil.
Sure, fuel economy is much better in EVs, but it is not a savings. With new cars (not just EVs) costing a fortune these days, just keep driving and maintaining your current car. Bonus if your current car is something like a Civic or Corolla, which are already fuel efficient!
Great vid Scotty. I think in the end the cost will wash out to be the same. The mid game is when it will be most costly for EVs when the popularity rises but before the majority owns them. That's when companies will be price gouging until enough non proprietary companies and mechanics come online. It still comes down to the one real factor going forward that EVs leave no room for middle and lower class to afford a used car if they will have address the certain future of a $12,000 battery replacement.
@@kokonanana1 no clue but what we know from history is if does or doesn't apply now it may or may not apply in the future. Shouldn't be an emissions tax but a road use tax would apply but in 30, 40 years I'm sure there will be taxes we haven't even thought of, it's the way of the world nothing is free
Texas passed a law to (over) tax EVs, since they don't pay the gas taxes. The tax is way more than the average person pays in gas taxes. It's not the worst over taxation I have to deal with.
When Musk went full denial of the viability of Hydrogen EVs, I knew something was up. I might go to Hyrbid or Clean/Bio-Fuel EV... But I will never depend on a full EV for my primary transportation.
Don't like musk but he's points about hydrogen are good, the efficiency is really bad, the refueling infrastructure will be incredibly expensive.The fuel cells are also very expensive not even close to competing with BEVs
show me the mainstream Hydrogen vehicles on the road. If Hydrogen were better they would have overtaken EVs by now. Hydrogen is simply inefficient. That Mathes don't lie.
I disagree about the tires. I switched my tires from the 19 inch rims that came with my model Y to 18 inch rims with all terrain tires and noticed a reduction in road noise and more comfortable ride quality.
@13:04 bleep about Tesla tires being great in a snowy State. Regular ice tires are noisier and use a softer rubber compound to deal with extreme ice conditions in artic Canadian winters. I suspect Tesla tires would be much harder at -30 degrees C/F and would get stuck or slip to lose traction. Nobody seems to have looked into this. Never mind that the flat low bottoms of the vehicles would be lifted by heavy snow falls on the roads increasing the chance of getting stuck.
I’m sure there will be a day when the technology advances enough to justify the purchase of a EV. I personally feel like for my applications that won’t be anytime within at least the next 10 years. For all their faults; when it comes to family excursions into the wild (camping) the ordinary ice is still my preference; hard to beat a jerrycan for emergencies. Will be interesting to see the long term reliability of these cars as well as the tech advancements ten years from now.
Battery replacement is very, very expensive. Mid and low income families may be able to buy a second hand EV, but when the main battery goes bad, most people cannot afford the repair (which costs 13-18K). Cases of a dead main battery are surfacing more and more, now that the first batches of EV's are getting 8-10 years old (warranty is up to 8 years). It's not only the price of the battery, but the price of labour as well. The battery of the model Y is an integral part of the car's chassis. How can one easily replace that main battery? Take the whole car apart? This is going to be a huge problem for the second hand EV market. Why would anyone buy an EV which is 4-5 years old?
You can't switch out the tyres anymore. My Continental Tyres have rotation direction restrictions. So it's only possible to witch out right front and rear, and left front and rear. You can't fit the right front tyre to left rear tyre / front left with right rear, cause you change the rotation restriction of that tyres.
It's important to learn more about how the electric cars work and what type of maintenance to expect. Thank you very much for the information. I am old enough not to learn EV care tips intuitively and young enough to know that my last car may have to be an EV. So all information is helpful. Thank you.
If Scotty is right about frequent charging reducing battery life then an EV driven mostly in the city with frequent stop and go will have its battery degrade faster.
@donaldcarey114 yes, kind of. Batteries are typically rated for a certain number of charge "cycles". The typical numbers I've seen on this were around specialized batteries for electric boats not cars. But, they were somewhere around 20,000 to 25,000 charge cycles IIRC. The reason is that as electricity flows through the power cells with in the battery, there are of course magnetic effects coming into play. These magnetic effects can do two things: 1) cause chemical deposits or migrations on/with the anode/cathodes (the parts of the plus and minus terminals inside the battery cells) in the battery. These make the anodes/cathodes less conductive/functional which reduces the ability to both charge and discharge the battery. 2) cause both internal chemical changes in the cells and the migration of chemicals in the cells. For example, after a large number of battery charge cycles with Li+ batteries, conductive dendrites can form between the anode and cathode causing a kind of "short circuit" in the battery cell. This "short" can both prevent the cell from charging/discharging properly and cause heating significant enough to ignite the cell. It is believed this phenomenon was the source of many of the early spontaneous battery fires in some early electric vehicles (like Teslas). This problem was largely, perhaps near totally, solved by moving to larger battery cells with more physical space between the anode and the cathode. The chemical structure/formula of the anode and cathode and their coating during manufacturing to address these issues has been a major focus of battery research. Regarding me saying "kind of" about Scotty being right, that's because the rated number of charge cycles for EV batteries is likely so high that the vast majority of people will never reach it with in the life of the vehicle. Regular use and age of the battery no matter the number of charge cycles will most likely wear the battery out first. I don't remember Scotty saying stop-and-go traffic would degrade the battery faster and reduce it's life - that shouldn't matter at all. Personally, I would never buy an electric car. I won't even ride in them. I consider them an extreme fire hazard. This doesn't just apply to cars but to electric bikes and scooters/monowheels/hoverboards as well. There is currently legislation proposed/pending in NYC to make it illegal to bring such devices near/inside buildings due to a significant number of fires caused by Li+ battery fires and the difficulty of extinguishing Lithium based fires (Lithium will ignite on contact with water - including water vapor in air - that is why pure Lithium is required to be stored under oil in chemistry labs). The question of course is, how does your kid charge their electric scooter/hoverboard if they're not allowed to bring it near any of the electrical outlets of the building?
I would think it's just the opposite. If you're mainly driving in the city you will likely know how much range you need each day and so you can afford to let it run down to near 20% before you charge it back up to 80%. If you're making long trips you may want to make use of every charging opportunity, both daytime and overnight, and try recharge to 100% whenever possible.
EV’s will destroy our roads and bridges. EV cars are 3x the weight of a gas car and Semi EV’s are 5x the weight of diesels. Magnify that weight by the amount of people on the road and bridge collapses and road damage will be exponential.
Scotty didn't bash the EV like most have done, it was an impartial commentary. The only way to know for sure how good these are is to own one for several years and test it yourself! I'd like to have one for running around town and a grocery getter.
@@devinmurray5280 assuming 2 level 2 @40amp (35amp) and 2 level 1 chargers @1 20amp (13amp) (meaning at best 40 miles range added over 8 hours charging), is 96 amps. HVAC for house that size about 20amps with a peak of 35 on startup ~ 130 amps. Water heater 20 amps, 150amps. Washer, dryer, 10, 11, 170amps, dishwasher, 10, 180amps. It's looking pretty tight with just appliances alone if a smart meter was not being used. Almost all houses built before 1990 have 100amp rather than 200amp, the cost of upgrading is up to $5k - more than affordable for a family who can buy 30-40k EVs for the whole family. I guess on the whole it looks like your assessment is correct with caveats. Thanks!
I have a 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid. Been playing with Forscan Lite. Found out that the car has a Battery Control Moduel->Rmode Rebalance to rebalance the batteries in the battery pack. I've had the car since 2015. That rebalance has not been run at least since then. I suspect it has never been run. I've looked at Hybrid forums over the years, and hadn't seen this mentioned before. It takes Scotty to point out that *batteries require maintenance*. And he doesn't even like electric cars.
Saying a tesla is poorly built shows how little he knows about how fast things are changing. Tesla uses gigga castings which hyundai and bmw are starting to tool up for. Tesla is years ahead of the others. Listen to sandy munro if you want to learn about electric cars. Acotty should just stick to fixing ICE.
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Careful Scotty!, that deranged lunatic ELEon might try to put a computer into your brain like he does all those poor 🐒's! WHAT a sick O eh? ✌💖
Problem being,- what is the life of the vehicle? Is it 3-5 years, or a lifetime.?
Things don't seem to be going so well for Toyota in the Chinese market. you can say of course if you want that it depends on rules and Chinese politics etc. Then it is also said that the Chinese want high-tech cars. So a person who can say you have to replace the latest processor or I will return the car. Things are also going badly for the likes of Volkswagen
«Goodbye Ford and Tesla»… yes, Toyota shitmobiles cant keep up..
@@Andersljungberg who cares about the China? This is the United States. China is far more advanced than the United States and by decades. China has highspeed bullet train technology which is also fully electric. America? Not available! Leave china out of this. They are above the american grade....
Living in northern New England anyone purchasing an EV can cut in half their EV’s range during the winter. The manufacturer should be required to give estimates based on the average temps of the regions the vehicle is being sold in.
Try living in MN when it's -20. I'll bet you get 1/3 of the range. If they were cheaper than ICE cars then it would make sense, but paying that kind of money for a giant iPhone is peak stupidity.
If they told the truth nobody would buy them😂 so they rely on marketing to suckers☝️
All ICE cars are 35% efficient in cold temperatures. So you loose range for heating your engine and cabin. It’s less an issue with EV cars but the batteries and the cabin must be heated as well. This is why good EV’s use heat pumps instead of resistive cabin heaters. I always replaced my Sumer tires on my performance ICE cars around 25k miles. It will be 20% better with my Tesla Model Y performance 21 inch tires. Tires are staggered. Brakes are doing great thanks to regenerative braking.
@@Angelboy99 Why do you love propaganda?
Real life tests show a range drop of about 20% when driving in temps in the teens vs driving at 70F. Mostly due to having to heat the cabin, so if you can live with being cold, the difference will be less. Anyone reporting a drop in half heeds to have their EV checked out.
I wanted an EV until I realized just how crooked the companies were about maintenance, they just wanna make boat loads of money off of people. Not to mention the fact that almost all EVs are unaffordable for the average American. I bought my dream car recently, 2003 Toyota Tacoma with a V6…couldn’t be happier!
So you don't like capitalism?? 😂😂
In a capitalist society, there are choices. If you choose to pay more, that's on you. Also, the best businesses don't scalp their customers. Being wise with finances frees up money to support other businesses that aren't selling cars. The batteries of today are like steam was to internal combustion engines, comparing the cumbersome and expensive batteries we have now, compared to much superior future batteries made from less costly materials. Anyone stuck with the lithium batteries will be at a disadvantage. EV's aren't really "there", yet. You wait. Sometime in the near future, there will be a breakthrough in batteries, and you'll be stuck with a severely depreciated Tesla, worth a couple grand. It's not about capitalism. It's about how you blow your money.
@@soco13466Facts!
america isn't a capitalist country. It was in the 60tiies and slowly started to deteriorate over the years. @@Gangsta1168
you're going to hell for polluting though, so it wasn't worth it. God has no mercy for those that pollute his world. The fires of hell await. No, wait a minute, God loves smoke going up to heaven. I got it backwards
If I can’t buy the parts at the parts store and work on the vehicle myself, I will not own it
You get just one big part....
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Automakers are doing their best to make that true for ICE vehicles as well. A lot of stuff we used to work on is now much more difficult, which means fewer and fewer people are making those repairs themselves. Just look at what you have to take apart to fix the actuators in the dash for heat/A/C issues. You have to take half the car apart on some models.
@@mplslawnguy3389 then set an afternoon aside make sure the tea is cold AND GET IT DONE
@@bluecollarnobody4217 It's no problem for people that like to work on cars, but for the average person, a lot of repairs are too much, especially if they need that vehicle for commuting. Most things, you used to get done in a day, now you could have your vehicle out of commission for a week trying to figure it all out.
Scotty, you should have been ALL my professors back in college. You distill information so well, while holding people's attention! ✌
I have a 2013 Tesla my garage with 165,000 miles. It’s been completely maintenance free and the only thing I’ve done is tires and windshield wipers. It’s on its original battery. Don’t believe all the hate you hear from people.
Fair and balanced video of pros and cons. You rock, Scotty.
Tesla tried to shut him down I love it
People who get it also rock, and it's rather hopeful to see people give the truth the most likes.
Nice review and video but I still don't want a electric car hear to many horror stories about electric cars catching on fire
... the fox news motto?
He was wrong on a few points.
1) Even on long trips you do not want to charge to 100%. You will actually save more total time charging to 80% and charging more often. The last 20% takes longer than making another stop and charging back to 80%
2) The EV version of the similar gas version of a car is not 2-3 times more as he claims. Not even close. They are 1.4% more on the average for a comparable care. 2 times would be 100% more. Average purchase price for all ICE vehicles is $45k while an EV is $61k. That is only 35% more or 1.35 times more. So he is way off on this statement.
3) Batteries practically never need to be changed.
EVs shouldn’t be anti diy but the problem is everything has been going that way. This isn’t an issue inherent to EVs, but rather the consumer market. EVs could be super friendly to repairs. Especially given they’re so much more simple.
EV are the future of DIY you have way fewer limits than conventional cars.
You forget about risks of electrocution. That's why auto makers don't want you to DIY.
@@nicolas277unless you do something incredibly stupid it’s quite difficult to electrocute yourself
@@nicolas277 you can blow up a gasoline car or engine can blow up in your face. All diy have a risk when you don't pay attention or don't know what you are doing.
@@marinostsalis314FACTS, no Matter gasoline powered or electric, both can blow up or explode when the one doing the work don't know the work he's doing.
Cost to replace a battery. 5k-10k. Cost to to remove, rebuild, and install an engine, 10k. Or more depending on the engine.
Battery in an EV is more like 15-20k. Stick with an older GM model and you won’t have to replace engines. In the unlikelihood you would, most were mass produced and relatively inexpensive. If you’re driving a German car, well that’s on you. How much do you think a battery for a German EV will cost? My guess is anywhere from 2-5 times any other. Once you realize EV’s are not the answer, you’ll think clearly.
I'm not ready to make a major life change, my car has almost a 500 mile range. By the time I need fuel its time for a break😊 Also my tires last 80,000 miles, thank you Michelin. How are low income families going to afford an EV with all the Proprietory Service and Parts at the Stealerships?
They will not be able to afford an EV. But than those in power don't want you to own a car at all.
@@ducthman4737 Nope, they want to contain the population in urban areas. Much easier to keep tabs on us and socially engineer the population. They want you on trains and bikes. Trust me, you'll love it.
It is becoming more apparent that this is a class issue. Not exclusively a class issue, like some social commentators would have you believe. But, it is becoming more obvious that the shift to EV will have 'unintended consequences'.
@@ducthman4737prices will continue to drop for EVs as the tech evolves. Especially with Tesla in the game with such large margins slamming the whole market down hurting other companies for a show of power lol.
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Insurances will get more expensive. Electricity will get much more expensive and less available if the 'green' climate stupidity continuous. Inflation will get much worse destroying the purchasing power of the fiat money. It doesn't matter how cheap they become as long as your paycheck is not enough to cover the basics.
This is why hybrids are better. A small 4cyl getting 40mpg for long trips and smaller battery with a generator on the same 4cyl for when you need high torque and city driving. Going pure electric was a bad idea from the start.
The benefit is clear to see. The problem is the complexity required to build those cars. Repairs are far more costly etc
Complexity isn't your friend. Hybrids to have up sides. But they are complex animals; this isn't a good thing.
The only problem with hybrids is they have comparatively high operating cost and actually higher maintenance cost then gasoline powered cars
Good luck with you on that thought.
Just wait till your need electric parts replaced etc. I am buying a Corolla Cross as we speak. No hybrid, please. Besides, you can and will be waiting up to 2 years for one of those puppies from Toyota. Especially Toyota Canada.
I am at the 13/14 month waiting mark for my new vehicle.
I hope to get it before September. I bought it on July 20th, 2022!
Ya ...
Plug in hybrids and hybrids are the way. Many plug ins get 50mi range and that is sufficient for most commuting needs
My Nissan leaf is 10 years old, and its lost 2% per year, no cooling systems for the battery. And this is 10 year old chemistry, i bought it second hand and its paid for itself in fuel savings, serviced nothing , changed no brake pads, just tyres as they were old but not worn out. i have saved a bucket! I charge on solar for weekends and ev rates during the week. I still own my old clunker from 2005 as my long distance horse. I use it 3 or 4 times a year. but its not everyones cup of tea. Great for city use.
the best compliment I can give - I went into this thinking that it was gonna be a hatchet job against EVs, but instead, you have an honest assessment of the pros and cons. Much appreciated, Scotty.
Nearly all modern batteries have computer controllers behind their charging leads that report that the battery is "fully drained" around 20% and "fully charged" around 80%. So, the battery itself prevents overcharging or undercharging in order to prevent a "floor" from being formed that reduces capacity. So, it's not really something the customer needs to think about. But, it doesn't hurt not to charge or drain more than necessary.
This isn't just true of EV batteries, but even the battery on your battery powered impact wrench or drill. If you have a battery and leave it on the shelf for a year, it can drain lower than the chip would want to allow due to "float" (battery energy leaking out into the air). If this happens the battery charger will report "bad battery" when you attempt to charge it as the controller chip in the battery won't let it charge. But, with most of these batteries you can also leak a little charge in while the battery controller is in self-test mode. So, you can re-animate the battery (or bring it back to life) by repeatedly plugging in the charger, unplugging it when it reports bad battery, then re-plugging it again or by connecting another battery to it and disconnecting/reconnecting that 2nd battery in the same fashion. Each time the "dead"/"bad" battery will gain a little more charge during the internal testing cycle and eventually it will get over the magical percentage where the battery controller chip is comfortable letting it be "fully" charged by the charger as a good battery.
Great tip!
I've had my EV for seven years. Only maintenance has been a new set of tires and topping off fluids. I charge it with solar on my property during the day when the sun's up. Haven't been to a gas station in seven years. Love how fast and responsive it is in trafic. I live in California where we have fantastic EV rebates. May not be the best car for northern climates, but rocks in CA!
Sounds like a win in certain environments.
Yeah CA is an ideal place for EVs to do what they do best. But to really maximize benefits you do still need shaded off road parking, at least level 2 charging, solar to offset costs and to be at home during the day when most people are out commuting to work to charge it at peak solar hours.
Oh, and a house. Sorry, 40% of Americans.
@@6Sparx9 You charge your EV at home overnight. 🙄
East coast EV driver, 4 years, 42k miles. maintenance needs: tires, cabin filters, wiper fluid. Avg 4.2 miles per kw. So about $450 a year for 10k miles. 95% charging at home.
I love these informational videos Scotty seriously should have a TV show
He kinda did back in the 80's and 90's. I believe it was on PBS :)
It would just be ruined by commercials
An average of $4600 less maintenance cost over the life of the vehicle. But if it costs at least $20,000 more to buy in the first place....
Also important to factor in operating costs. I drive about 60 miles a day for work, and have a 2009 hundai elantra that makes decent efficiency at about 30mpg. 300 miles a week x 50 working weeks is 15,000 miles a year. Gas in my state(washington) is about 5 a gallon. This means i speand 2,500 a year on gas to ONLY go to work. If i spent 26,400 extra for an ev and a decent set of solar panels (about 10k) i would break even after 10 years, not including the fact that gas will never go down in price and the panels would save me a small fortune on my electrical bill.
Average brand new car in the United States is 47k, Tesla model 3 is 40k. Facts hurt
@@therabidsquirrelsage3388 Cars in the $40,000 + range are in the stratosphere from my point of view and pay grade. Facts hurt. (Whatever tf that's supposed to mean). 🙄
@@WhiteTiger333 but you said you'd be paying $20,000 more for an EV. I'm sorry you weren't successful enough to afford even the average car in America much less an electric vehicle which is $7,000 cheaper
But that still doesn't mean that other people have to pay $20,000 more for an EV. Nice try though
@@permanence4063 I don't think a Tesla is comparable to a 2009 Elantra.
One issue with many EVs, is the brake light behavior when regen braking. Some will not activate the light. EV makers need to make it so that when slowing at a quicker rate than an ICE car coasts and loses momentum while coasting then the light should come on.
Never thought of that, great point.
Tesla started turning on the brake lights during regen in 2019 or so. I can downshift in my truck without the brake lights coming on. Oops.
@@scottgaree7667 If Tesla added it, then that is good, though I think a number of other EV makers still either don't turn on the light, or only do it if it is set to the max possible regen setting.
As for vehicles with a manual transmission, they may be less common, especially on more crowded roads. For example, imagine how punishing the experience would be in trying to use a manual transmission in or near any moderately sized city where there is a chance of encountering slow or worse, stop and go traffic.
@@Razor2048 It's not that big a deal. I drove manuals for many years in Houston and Dallas. It becomes 2nd nature. I miss having a standard tranny in my truck.
BEVs causing rear-ender collisions due to brake light behavior.
Like all other types of vehicles, battery operated vehicles have their place, for certain drivers, under certain conditions. They are *not* going to replace all vehicles.
I have a pile of friends who own one or more Tesla’s and an equal pile that own Toyota hybrids. I own a 2022 RAV4 Hybrid. The common responses from my EV owning friends are, 1) that absolutely love never having to go to a gas station, 2) 90+% of their daily driving is easily covered by charging at home overnight or during the day on weekends, 3) tires and occasionally wipers…that’s it…zero maintenance, 4) absolutely love the responsiveness and handling in all seasons, 5) they love the quiet ride, 6) they unanimously ignore Tesla haters who have never even opened the door of an EV, never mind actually experienced one. Why did I mention the Toyota hybrids? Because they have proven that the batteries simply outlast gas engines hands down across the board. Driving back from PA last week I came across a totally burned to the ground pickup sitting on the side of the highway. Not smashed, just completely burnt end to end. I guarantee you that if that had been a Tesla it would have made national headlines with every EV hater screaming about exploding batteries. Crickets though when it is your off-the-shelf Chevy pickup. Yes, I also own a 2011 Silverado with 270k on it (my 4th and last one). Rusted on every panel, rattling in every corner, constant check engine lights, and a cloud of smoke every time it starts. A downside to EVs? Put that kind of a blistering acceleration into the hands of your average new teen driver and everyone will be blaming the car for the mishaps that are absolutely going to happen.
EV’s are perfect for 90% of urban residents. Am I going to go on a long trip with one? Not at all! I’ll use my hybrid for that. The concerns with EV’s are legitimate for those considering spending that much money on something they haven’t experienced. I recommend people try the Model 3 cheapie before stepping it up. I greatly enjoy and love the Model S.
Don’t forget the child and slave labor mining for the raw materials, and toxic waste making the batteries, and real challenges to safely dispose.
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
As long as you're not buying Walmart, Harbor freight and nike shoes And any other third world products your golden
That is in your laptop and Smartphone laptop etc where don't source orgination. Stop your stupid moral outrage
Im sorry are regular cars made of fairy dust or something
Iron ore for steel is mined from the third world in just as bad conditions.
I am a superintendent at a new EV battery plant currently being built, cant say what or where. That being said, off the record we all know this is the swan song, they will go broke . No one wants this
Sure Jan
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
@@thomascunningham111and gas cars contain gas. A FLAMABLE liquid as well that can ignite to sparks. There have been plenty of normal car fires. Idk why people act like evs are special. We've all seen clips of gas cars burning
I have a 2017 Ford Focus Electric, 105-115 miles EPA rating. Car is now 6 years old with 61,000 miles. Maintenance so far is one set of tires, Pirelli P7 $600 installed and 2 cabin air filters. I do rotate the tires about every 6k miles myself. Range estimate when I got in today after a full charge was 125 miles. Recent driving gave me 112 miles with 7% battery remaining. This is all with A/C running in the 90F+ heat. Full charge at $0.13 per Kw where I live is about $4. Don't know about that 2.5%/year battery degradation statistic you threw out, but I have not experienced anything measurable yet. I also rarely use dc fast chargers, so that really helps. I am sure hoping to be driving this vehicle for at least another 6 years worry and maintenance free except for that pesky first maintenance at 100,000 miles of a coolant change for the batteries.
I will never go back to ICE.
Why don't they bring back the Datsun B-210 it used to get 39 miles to the gallon. It was a great little car for around town and short trips.And only cost around 1900 to 2400 dollars. They sold a lot of them better than the worthless Chevy VEGA.
Ya my wife to be back in 72 had one it was a very nice little car
I owned a B210 back in the day! Great little car, had more interior space than you would think just looking at the car.
First car i bought and learned how to drive was datsun 120y, was a great car before it got t-boned.
Automakers aren't interested in making economy cars anymore. Go to a dealership, you won't find one.
I did a head gasket on one after it overheated from a heater core leak. Resurfaced head an put in a new gasket. The carburetor was junk and replaced it with a Weber kit.
Hopefully the Insurance companies will tax these fire traps off the road.
Thermal runaway is serious as Fire fighters can't extinguish them.
@chrismitchell6274 Agreed! The fumes from a battery fire are extremely toxic. Also, the only tool firefighters really have to try and extinguish them is foam which includes toxic PFAS "forever" chemicals. There are currently several lawsuits in the USA over PFAS causing both cancer in firefighters and regular people that drank water contaminated with them. If PFAS containing foam starts being frequently used to extinguish EV fires all over the USA, significant water contamination (and an increase in cancer rates) will occur in my understanding.
Gavin Newsom just called, he loves your “tax our way to prosperity” type of thinking!
he be looking for more people with your mindset in Sacramento
There is no experience yet on repairability of an EV after an accident. Scotty says to keep the EV out of the sun, but I would not store an EV in a garage connected to my house. After an accident, Who knows how fragile the battery is and whether it is more prone to fire. Will homeowners insurance increase for those with EVs? Time will tell.
Actually insurance companies charge less for insurance on EVs. But that's because insurance companies make their decisions based on facts not political identity. 😂
@@viktoreisfeld9470you taught me something, thanks!
I rented a Tesla for a trip I was on in another state, thought I’d give it a try. The least intuitive driving experience ever. I had to look up videos on how to turn the windshield wipers on!
All Tesla models have a pretty obvious wiper toggle right by the steering wheel, I don't recall any that doesn't have one. And all uses the exact same symbols as you see on any other car. So if you're struggling to turn it on, oh boy, it doesn't look good... on you... not the car.
@@nicoinformaticsexactly
So how does one adjust the wiper speed without the touchscreen?
It's an automatic $300 fine for distracted driving in most locales if the officer sees you using the touchscreen while driving.
You literally just push the button on the steering wheel and tell it to turn them on. Best vehicle in the plantet. Got model Y 2 weeks ago. Never going back. Who would ever buy a mustang anymore? Not me
@@Timmymao163cops do the same all the time with their screens lol. I was a cop and only a dbag would get someone for that imo. Can just push the button on the steering wheel and say "turn on wipers" and boom it does it. Many voice commands. Got first EV 2 weeks ago (model Y) quicker than my dad's GT 500 and easily fits family of 4. There's no going back IMHO. Old muscle cars are unique and interesting but why would anyone buy a mustang or Corvette instead of Tesla?
I love when scotty does these kinda videos..
shame he's got no clue about the cars though the instant torque is not free it wears out the electrical cable for the motor in as little as 5 years yeah you heard right you need to require the car regularly if you driving it like a jackrabbit.🤣🤣🤣
In the last twenty years of driving, I have experienced in a repmobile:
- Dual Mass Flywheel failure resulting in crank failure
- EGR valve failure
- Injector Failure (twice)
- Cam Belt failure (after dodgy cam belt service by dealer)
- Two clutches Worn out and replaced
- Several sets of brake disks and pads
- Numerous oil leaks
- Alternator (causing a fire which ended the car)
- Coil packs
In four years of EV:
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EV VEHICLE OWNERSHIP suggests a LIFETIME OF AUTO PAYMENTS and DEALER EXCLUSIVE MAINTENANCE PRICE GOUGING.
The amount of research and information in this video is something you can take with you to a EV dealership and really give them a run on their knowledge. Thank you.
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
I have a 2018 model 3. Only two minor issues so far. Had the motor for the charging flap replaced and the low voltage battery. Build quality was not a issue as well. Tires have held up extremely well too. I will probably replace next year
I jinxed myself. The Power Coversion System failed a few days ago and they quoted me an estimate of $1900. I can still charge but at reduced speeds. I'm going to get it fixed Monday before it becomes a bigger problem.
@@Nick_S1noooooooo that sucks my guy 😢
How are the rear shocks on the Model 3?
Every Uber I've taken who had a model 3 felt like the shocks had leaked dry 10 years ago and they continued using them
@6Sparx9 they are ok not close to my Lexus though. I don't usually ride in the back though. I know they have changed them since 2018 though
I have learned never buy the first few model years. Wait about 3-5 years. If it's a new generation of the car... wait a couple. At least... don't buy the first model year ever.
I have been watching your videos for awhile and never commented but, I just wanted to tell you, I appreciate all the info you compiled for this video. As for me I will keep driving my gas vehicle as long as possible. Thx.
You need to factor in the fuel savings. Having solar on my house makes it basically free to recharge the cars batteries. When on a road trip, charging at tesla charging stations is inexpensive compared to gasoline prices.
Nearly 1.9 million Toyota RAV4 SUVs are under investigation after reports of engines catching fire
... Driving and electrical car across Texas sounds like a dream.
Here's my opinion
EVs are a solution to no problems, if anything they cause more problems
They're more expensive than real cars, and overall they're a waste of money
All in all, everyone's going to have to dig pocket deeper when you buy a car, and they want all vehicles to Be EV. And, your electric bill is going to zoom straight upward very high.
Except my Model Y is cheaper than a Rav4 hybrid XLE after the federal $7500 credit and the Colorado $5000 credit
Expect hurricanes every year in SoCal from now on. And up into Oregon and Washington in the next few decades.
@@roberttaylor5997 And, expect, electric vehicles are not going to hold up and/or not going to work.
@@theequalizer9154 So what's your plan for not continuing to pump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere?
- " We have the ELECTRIC CHAIR here in Texas ! That's enough, we don't need ELECTRIC SEATS everywhere !... " (Yosemite Sam, angry as always)
AutoInsuranceEZ studied the frequency of fires-from all causes, including collisions-in automobiles in 2021. It found that hybrid vehicles, which have an internal combustion engine and an electric motor, had the most fires per 100,000 vehicles (3475), while vehicles with just an internal combustion engine placed second (1530 per 100,000). Fully electric vehicles had the fewest: 25 per 100,000. These findings were based on data from the National Transportation Safety Board and the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.
Facts. Thanks for being one of the only non biased comments in here.
How long does it take to put out a battery operated car fire, compared to a regular vehicle? Good luck getting a battery thermal runaway fire under control with a fire extinguisher.
The question I have is this, how much fossil fuel does it take to produce the Electricity needed to charge up an EV?
Very good video. Love my model y so far. My brother's models 3 has been flawless for over 100k miles.
We shall see.
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Your welcome
Enjoyed the way you broke down the different ways to maintain the EVs. Would like to see one for a GM Buick Verano. Might search for it
So many Teslas on the road here in SoCal. It's like a Corolla. Basic af.
True, and they are always the base model model 3
@@RRLV434All the models look so similar, virtually the same, which makes it even worse
Tesla model Y. Solare panels on the house. I dont pay for fuel, ever.
Unfortunately, the technology as well as the infrastructure have a lot of catching up to do. Petroleum will be with us for the long term, especially given how many modes of transportation that can't be electrified anytime soon rely on it.
Lithium-ion batteries contain a FLAMMABLE electrolyte that can result in fire or even explosions if they are punctured, damaged, or heated. ------ The electrodes are submerged in a liquid called an electrolyte, which allows for the movement of ions and consists of lithium salt and organic solvents. It is these ORGANIC solvents which are the leading fire hazard in Li-ion batteries.
@@thomascunningham111 People talk about the Pinto, but I've lost count of how many EV fires I've seen.
Another cost difference is that I can do much of the maintenance and repair work on my gas-powered vehicle, I don't think the same is true with an electric vehicle.
love your channel scotty, but you're not always correct, electric batteries don't last just for 10 years, they last far more than that, my coworker's 10 year old nissan leaf has only dropped to 93% battery life span, it only lost 7% full charge in 10 years and this is just the cheapest built nissan leaf. He doesn't fast charge, and drives it in ECO. also, toyota BZ4X in canada offers 10 year or 240,000 km battery warranty, as well as guarantees battery lifespan of minimum 90% after 10 years or replacement is free.
A very professional & concise vlog, thanks. One thing you did not mention was the massive depreciation of EV's, & the fact that the range you can achieve is never the range quoted by the manufacturers. Also, if you live in a part of the country where you have snow every winter, your range will decrease even more, as using the heater, plus the cold detracts your range further, as does towing. Most EV owners believe they are being 'green' by operating one, but the electricity used to charge them invariably comes from coal fired power stations. Are EV's the future? Never in a million years.
Many new EVs this year have LFE batteries that aren’t as prone to a lot of the issues the li-ion batteries have. I can routinely charge to 100%.
No you can't
@@mplslawnguy3389 really because the car recommends that, the owners manual for the lfe cars recommend that and the online users manual recommends that. LFE is far more durable and can handle full charging.
In notification yes you can see it reach 100%, but its just a flaw, its just a trick that makes you think its still fine.
For example, just see at your phone.
Even if you charge it once in two days.
In 10 years it will drain faster.
So you need to replace the battery, when the battery it self is cost more than your old ev car value 😂😂😂.
So every 10 years or more you bought new cars??
Its a car not a toys, yes if you live in 1st world country, when the price of a car isnt as high as other countries, and you gain more salary compare to other countries, you can.
When the first railway opened in the world in 1825 - The Stockton to Darlington in the UK there were people saying that trains would be a disaster. Claims from people will suffocate at speeds in excess of 25 miles an hour to the technology was incredibly dangerous.
When the car first appeared in the early 20th century again there were claims it was a useless, dangerous and hopeless technology and a rich man’s toy. We were told the same about cell phones in the early 80s and how they would never replace fixed land line telephones.
The truth is electric cars are already cheaper than traditional cars when you include the cost of maintenance and running.
Soon they will be much cheaper to buy too as the new technology is ramped up.
There has always been Luddite’s and vested interests who hate change.
They are really pushing these vehicles here in CA, but I will leave before I am compelled to buy one.
When you do, don't bring California with you.
@@jakethesnake2655 I am leaving the US entirely. I have friends in South Africa inviting me there. I need a few more years, but I may cut it short.
Perfect get the F-ck out of California, it’s getting to crowded. More space for us that can actually afford things lmao 🤣
@@sherlynbrown5270good luck in South Africa. That country is in decline and going quickly.
Out of the frying pan, into the fire!@@sherlynbrown5270
Electric Drive Unit had to be replaced at 160k miles. Chevy wanted 10-12k for replacement and ended up swapping it out myself with help for 1600$ parts and labor. Remember to read the manual, electric drive unit requires flushing and replacing the oil at 150k miles depending on electric motor. While batteries are a concern of cost, the modules can be replaced and the battery does drop out of the vehicle much easier than replacing an ice engine. Also to note , wheel bearings and suspension tend to be areas of preventative maintenance in high mileage cars including EVs. Electric vehicles overall require much less hassle and maintenance from my experience driving high mileage electric vehicles. The Tesla newer models are already rated for 1 million miles already if I’m not mistaken.
I have an electric car (BMW i3) that I got used for one reason. Here in southern California I sit in constant traffic and hate the idea of continuing to spend up to 6$ a gallon on fuel that is burned and gone. These gas prices are the reason I bought my i3, it helps that it is a relatively inexpensive ev as well.
California sucks
Gas prices are high in part because California voters are illogical.
On all my more modern cars, tyre rotation has not been possible because firstly, they are directional and secondly the rears have been wider than the front
Just buy a new set of rear rims to match the front rim/etc.
Its just plug and play.
4/6 bolts and a hydraulic and you can replace them by yourself.
@@samuelkurniawan1383 Have you seen the cost of 255 rims & tyres on an EV? it would be in the thousands.
@@mdshovel well I'm not, that's verry expensive....
Don't park your ev in the sun? Who can avoid that? Every car I've owned sat in full sun all day while I work. I've never worked anywhere that had shade to park in. My uncle parked his mini van under a tree at his house. He asked me to help him take dashboard apart. There was pounds of leaves under dashboard, almost a whole garbage bag full. How they didn't start fire idk
Mines in the sun all the time. That was misinformed or a lie. Pretty standard for Scotty when it comes to ev's
Leave your smartphone in your car in the sun every day for a year and see how performance dies.
scotty shows tesla but his information is about 2013 Nissan Leaf .
I think people forget people live in apartments. I wouldn't be able to charge my car overnight and spend more time away from work/home tryna charge the car. It's just impractical
Especially as a second car
apartment parking will need level 2 chargers obviously
I said that but there’s a supercharger right by my house
the government built chargers (electrify america) half of the chargers dont work and have left people stranded. Its all over youtube where some channels test these scenarios for us. One guy bought a lightning for 1200 mile road trip and he ran into that issue and ended up having it towed to dealership and renting an ice vehicle to finish the trip. He spent $130K just to own one lol
You should buy a house together with an EV. It should be offered in a double pack.
People say that electric cars get worse range in the winter; so does my gas vehicle. Winter blended gasoline combined with warm ups make my gas mileage drop 6 miles a gallon in the winter. This is calculated WITHOUT using the computer to calculate my mileage. Use math, it doesn't lie.
Honda has accords built for 1 Million miles or 40 years. I see 40-year-old accords on the road every week. Plenty of Hondas reach a million miles. Good luck GM.
Please send some million mile vibes in the direction of my Honda, I'm at 286k right now and that would be amazing.
(I'm happy if it makes it over 300, just trying to stay on top of maintenance...)
@@jenelaina5665 you changed the timing chain / timing belt? Checked the valve lash? Attend brake fluid? Inflate tires 20% above the placard pressure?
@@jenelaina5665 from 286k (demonstrating competent manufacturing, operation, & maintenance), your car’s probability of reaching 300k seems to exceed 50%🍀
@@nelsblair2667 Mechanic friend who found me the car and had Hondas (and got his jeep up to 300k, how?) looked it up and down when I got it around 240k and did initial work. I've had it to two other shops + dealer since for various things and checks since. Knock on wood nothing major yet but:
1. Yes 2. No should I? 3. Yes, being on top of all fluids was the main takeaway I've heard from mechanic friend and folks familiar with high mile Hondas since and been doing my best on that in particular. 4. Um, no, why would I?
Sorry, Dude. I owned an 84 accord. After one year the back seat was sun baked so bad, that the threading had disintegrated. Also it was rusting out, in Nevada! I also had to replace the rack & pinion at 100,000 miles. But the best part was the trade in value in ‘87. I got $6,500 on trade in.
When the battery goes bad, what happens to the cost of ownership? How does it compare to ICE then?
Scotty is "Quality!" What this country "truly" needs!👍
Scotty for president!
5 years ago:
"An EV battery only lasts 5 years and then you're screwed."
4 years ago:
"After 6 years you have to pay a gazillion dollars."
3 years ago:
"But what after 7 years when the battery dies?"
2 years ago:
"You might have warranty for 8 years but after that it will immediately explode!"
Today:
"EV batteries can last up to 10 years."
2028:
"They said on the news that you have to change the battery after 15 years."
A car such as a Tesla can have the software upgraded with new functions so you get a completely new software so it's almost as if the car were new. So for those who want a smartphone on four wheels
Yeah like all the battery in smartphone, every year it will drop, in 10 years it need to replace the battery/toss it in the trash, because the battery price was higher than your old ev car value.
Isn’t it everyone’s fantasy to have to sit for an hour or so at some dank charging location in the seedy area of town. What could go wrong.
How do people that live in apartments charge a car?...or renters in general?
If you look at people with the first generation model S. Their batteries still had decent range only losing about 6-12% after 10 years of use. Most people keep their cars for an average of 7 to 8 years. And the heavy users. Still had more than 82% health after 10 years of use. It's all about how well the BMS, cooling system and power control work.
The problem is that this avarage is pulled up by upper middle class and rich people who can afford changing their vehicle every couple of years. The working class in America is using the same car for about 15 years. Regular folk will be forced to buy a new vehicle once they get into EVs simply because those cars will come with a busted battery.
Hot, cold, short trips, long trips, no issues for fossil fuel cars..............
I'm a renewables fan, but by no means convinced about EVs.
My work place went from office to work from home at the start of the pandemic. I'm in a department that has officially gone hybrid where we go in once a week. As a result I probably drive 3,000 Km (roughly 2000 miles) a year now. I drive a fuel efficient CUV with a 2 litre engine that gets really good economy and is paid for. My experience with lithium ion batteries in phones, tools, laptops and the like is 3-5 years before it's just too much hassle to always remove from tool and store in charger when not using. I won't save that $12,000 in 5 years on gas. For maintenance every spring and fall oil change, tire swap since I live in a place that gets snow and a good once over. Cheaper to replace a weeping rad hose than cook the engine.
Accidents between electric vehicles are more deadly, because they are heavier.
Got a Bolt and PHEV Pacifica. I did the math and, as long as we charge overnight (EV rate plan) the equivalent cost (based on a gas powered Spark and normal Pacifica) works out to approximately 91¢/gallon under electric power during nice weather. (Alternatively, if we charge off of our normal house electric plan, it works out to about $1.90/gallon.)
(Edit: Location = South East Michigan)
You're still not green. I wouldn't park your EV in the garage.
@@tonystormcloud6889you're still not smart enough to understand what green is.
@@tonystormcloud6889 How would you know that I don't want a new garage?
Besides, statistically, I've got better odds of winning the daily four drawing if I were to buy one single ticket in my lifetime. Regardless, not looking to hug a tree, just got sick of having to change oil.
That Chrysler product is still trash lol
Sure, fuel economy is much better in EVs, but it is not a savings. With new cars (not just EVs) costing a fortune these days, just keep driving and maintaining your current car. Bonus if your current car is something like a Civic or Corolla, which are already fuel efficient!
Where do the multitudes in row houses in Philadelphia charge their cars overnight?
Great vid Scotty. I think in the end the cost will wash out to be the same. The mid game is when it will be most costly for EVs when the popularity rises but before the majority owns them. That's when companies will be price gouging until enough non proprietary companies and mechanics come online. It still comes down to the one real factor going forward that EVs leave no room for middle and lower class to afford a used car if they will have address the certain future of a $12,000 battery replacement.
Do electric vehicles pay a road tax like gas powered cars?
@@kokonanana1 no clue but what we know from history is if does or doesn't apply now it may or may not apply in the future. Shouldn't be an emissions tax but a road use tax would apply but in 30, 40 years I'm sure there will be taxes we haven't even thought of, it's the way of the world nothing is free
Texas passed a law to (over) tax EVs, since they don't pay the gas taxes. The tax is way more than the average person pays in gas taxes. It's not the worst over taxation I have to deal with.
That is where Scotty is wrong. You do not have to replace your battery in an EV every 10 years or as long as you own your EV.
I use my Tesla Model S 2018 for Uber / Lyft. Had it for about 4 years. HATE gas cars a lot.
You go Scotty! EV’s are a sham and deadly!
How are the a sham and how are they deadly?
Old people don’t like change I guess
The routinely catch on fire the mining ,processing and ultimate disposal is far more harmful to the environment than ice and several other factors.
If your EV should catch on fire how would you open your electric doors.
Bought a car 2001,combustion,still going strong,secret kepp up services
When Musk went full denial of the viability of Hydrogen EVs, I knew something was up.
I might go to Hyrbid or Clean/Bio-Fuel EV... But I will never depend on a full EV for my primary transportation.
Don't like musk but he's points about hydrogen are good,
the efficiency is really bad, the refueling infrastructure will be incredibly expensive.The fuel cells are also very expensive not even close to competing with BEVs
show me the mainstream Hydrogen vehicles on the road. If Hydrogen were better they would have overtaken EVs by now. Hydrogen is simply inefficient. That Mathes don't lie.
I disagree about the tires. I switched my tires from the 19 inch rims that came with my model Y to 18 inch rims with all terrain tires and noticed a reduction in road noise and more comfortable ride quality.
Great info, but I'm still not buying one! 😂
I saw on the news recently that batteries catch on fire when they get salt water in them in hurricane.
They are not telling us how they are going to collect Federal road tax.
Don't you worry, its gonna be online. You pay or your car just stops working, lol
i am looking at getting a tesla and one of the reason to get rid having to do maintenance on my gas car
Yeah, NEVER BUY ONE.
@13:04 bleep about Tesla tires being great in a snowy State. Regular ice tires are noisier and use a softer rubber compound to deal with extreme ice conditions in artic Canadian winters. I suspect Tesla tires would be much harder at -30 degrees C/F and would get stuck or slip to lose traction. Nobody seems to have looked into this. Never mind that the flat low bottoms of the vehicles would be lifted by heavy snow falls on the roads increasing the chance of getting stuck.
How does these cars effect the roads because of the weight?
Even more pot holes...
@@stefan2796 And less money to fill them 😂
Look at the size and weight of a current model F150 compared to 20 years ago. They are bigger and heavier. How do they impact the roads?
Electric vat batteries are guaranteed for 10 years. Tesla batteries are good for one million miles. Scotty is either misinformed of just plain biased.
I’m sure there will be a day when the technology advances enough to justify the purchase of a EV. I personally feel like for my applications that won’t be anytime within at least the next 10 years. For all their faults; when it comes to family excursions into the wild (camping) the ordinary ice is still my preference; hard to beat a jerrycan for emergencies. Will be interesting to see the long term reliability of these cars as well as the tech advancements ten years from now.
Personally I still think hybrids are a better option for the foreseeable future. I wonder if diesel-electric cars could ever be an option.
How much does it cost to replace a Telas 3 battery ?
What do mechanics think about less work ?
My repair bills labour costs are extremely high with my ICE vehicles.
Battery replacement is very, very expensive. Mid and low income families may be able to buy a second hand EV, but when the main battery goes bad, most people cannot afford the repair (which costs 13-18K). Cases of a dead main battery are surfacing more and more, now that the first batches of EV's are getting 8-10 years old (warranty is up to 8 years).
It's not only the price of the battery, but the price of labour as well. The battery of the model Y is an integral part of the car's chassis. How can one easily replace that main battery? Take the whole car apart?
This is going to be a huge problem for the second hand EV market. Why would anyone buy an EV which is 4-5 years old?
I like Jay Leno's electric coach mobile, Like1908, I'd drive that thing, run it on 12 volt car batteries to the store and back. Classy.
You can't switch out the tyres anymore.
My Continental Tyres have rotation direction restrictions. So it's only possible to witch out right front and rear, and left front and rear.
You can't fit the right front tyre to left rear tyre / front left with right rear, cause you change the rotation restriction of that tyres.
It's important
to learn more about how the electric cars work and what type of maintenance to expect.
Thank you very much for the information.
I am old enough not to learn EV care tips intuitively and young enough to know that my last car may have to be an EV.
So all information is helpful. Thank you.
Ice shitmobiles are so dangerous its beyond belief
Ps; you never need to get a new battery ..it will outlast the veichle
I can still see Scotty waving his arms when he's recording for this video.🙆
Good video. But most talk on the streets about Tesla vehicles is based on myths. I own one.
If Scotty is right about frequent charging reducing battery life then an EV driven mostly in the city with frequent stop and go will have its battery degrade faster.
@donaldcarey114 yes, kind of. Batteries are typically rated for a certain number of charge "cycles". The typical numbers I've seen on this were around specialized batteries for electric boats not cars. But, they were somewhere around 20,000 to 25,000 charge cycles IIRC. The reason is that as electricity flows through the power cells with in the battery, there are of course magnetic effects coming into play.
These magnetic effects can do two things:
1) cause chemical deposits or migrations on/with the anode/cathodes (the parts of the plus and minus terminals inside the battery cells) in the battery. These make the anodes/cathodes less conductive/functional which reduces the ability to both charge and discharge the battery.
2) cause both internal chemical changes in the cells and the migration of chemicals in the cells. For example, after a large number of battery charge cycles with Li+ batteries, conductive dendrites can form between the anode and cathode causing a kind of "short circuit" in the battery cell. This "short" can both prevent the cell from charging/discharging properly and cause heating significant enough to ignite the cell. It is believed this phenomenon was the source of many of the early spontaneous battery fires in some early electric vehicles (like Teslas). This problem was largely, perhaps near totally, solved by moving to larger battery cells with more physical space between the anode and the cathode.
The chemical structure/formula of the anode and cathode and their coating during manufacturing to address these issues has been a major focus of battery research.
Regarding me saying "kind of" about Scotty being right, that's because the rated number of charge cycles for EV batteries is likely so high that the vast majority of people will never reach it with in the life of the vehicle. Regular use and age of the battery no matter the number of charge cycles will most likely wear the battery out first. I don't remember Scotty saying stop-and-go traffic would degrade the battery faster and reduce it's life - that shouldn't matter at all.
Personally, I would never buy an electric car. I won't even ride in them. I consider them an extreme fire hazard. This doesn't just apply to cars but to electric bikes and scooters/monowheels/hoverboards as well. There is currently legislation proposed/pending in NYC to make it illegal to bring such devices near/inside buildings due to a significant number of fires caused by Li+ battery fires and the difficulty of extinguishing Lithium based fires (Lithium will ignite on contact with water - including water vapor in air - that is why pure Lithium is required to be stored under oil in chemistry labs). The question of course is, how does your kid charge their electric scooter/hoverboard if they're not allowed to bring it near any of the electrical outlets of the building?
I would think it's just the opposite. If you're mainly driving in the city you will likely know how much range you need each day and so you can afford to let it run down to near 20% before you charge it back up to 80%. If you're making long trips you may want to make use of every charging opportunity, both daytime and overnight, and try recharge to 100% whenever possible.
@@roberttaylor5997Try thinking again, regenerative braking CHARGES the battery - that's a charging cycle - d'oh.
@@donaldcarey114 That's a good point, but it also seems to make nonsense of everything that Scotty said.
Well not quite, because you will use regenerative braking much more in the city.
EV’s will destroy our roads and bridges. EV cars are 3x the weight of a gas car and Semi EV’s are 5x the weight of diesels. Magnify that weight by the amount of people on the road and bridge collapses and road damage will be exponential.
Scotty didn't bash the EV like most have done, it was an impartial commentary. The only way to know for sure how good these are is to own one for several years and test it yourself! I'd like to have one for running around town and a grocery getter.
They’re pretty great to own for 99% of driving. I wouldn’t want to make a 1000 mile trip in one. But a 480 mile trip recently I did was just fine.
@@devinmurray5280just did a 1500 mile trip in my EV. It’s fine. And will only get easier as more DC fast chargers come in.
I wanna see how many EVs a typical family house can charge overnight once the wife, husband and their 2-3 kids all have an EV each.
@@6Sparx9 all of them lol. Assuming a typical 200amp breaker
@@devinmurray5280 assuming 2 level 2 @40amp (35amp) and 2 level 1 chargers @1
20amp (13amp) (meaning at best 40 miles range added over 8 hours charging), is 96 amps. HVAC for house that size about 20amps with a peak of 35 on startup ~ 130 amps. Water heater 20 amps, 150amps. Washer, dryer, 10, 11, 170amps, dishwasher, 10, 180amps.
It's looking pretty tight with just appliances alone if a smart meter was not being used.
Almost all houses built before 1990 have 100amp rather than 200amp, the cost of upgrading is up to $5k - more than affordable for a family who can buy 30-40k EVs for the whole family.
I guess on the whole it looks like your assessment is correct with caveats. Thanks!
I have a 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid.
Been playing with Forscan Lite. Found out that the car has a
Battery Control Moduel->Rmode Rebalance
to rebalance the batteries in the battery pack.
I've had the car since 2015. That rebalance has not been run at least since then. I suspect it has never been run. I've looked at Hybrid forums over the years, and hadn't seen this mentioned before.
It takes Scotty to point out that *batteries require maintenance*. And he doesn't even like electric cars.
I love my 23 f150 Lightning!
Saying a tesla is poorly built shows how little he knows about how fast things are changing. Tesla uses gigga castings which hyundai and bmw are starting to tool up for. Tesla is years ahead of the others. Listen to sandy munro if you want to learn about electric cars. Acotty should just stick to fixing ICE.
Toyota, which apparently Scotty d rides also is working on a giga press