My Diesel Heater Runs On This - Cheaper Than Diesel

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  • I am testing this Chinese Diesel Heater to see if it will run on a different fuel other than Diesel.
    House Fuel (Kerosene) here in the UK. It is far cheaper than regular diesel or even red diesel. Let's see what happens.
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  • @robertp4767
    @robertp4767 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Been using heating oil for 6 months now and no problems at all 👍

  • @Ridley2907
    @Ridley2907 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Everyone is looking to save money wherever they can, and this experiment proves a considerable amount could be saved for users of these appliances. Well done Martin!

    • @jimmytate7587
      @jimmytate7587 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      here in the U.S. kerosenes is quite expensive. it does work well as a substitute for diesel. another substitute is used cooking oil, but it needs to be strained to remove any solids.

    • @calman4766
      @calman4766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't think its viable at the moment, I am struggling to find a supplier near where I live in the UK. for less than £1.77 a ltr. that is more expensive than diesel, at my local supermarket is £1.60 ltr.

  • @kimmer6
    @kimmer6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I ran my diesel heater 10-12 hours a day for months on red USA untaxed diesel fuel. It quit suddenly altogether yesterday, the same model as yours. I noticed that there was a bit of dirty water in the tank bottom along with debris. Apparently just filling the tank or topping it off twice a day stirred up the debris enough to clog the pump. Fortunately, I bought 2 units and quickly swapped in the new one. But I added a small engine fuel filter between the tank and the pump. The heater sits in an area where it is difficult to see the fuel level. I added a 12 volt LED light near the fuel pump and the fuel level is now visible from 10 meters away. I painted the housing black to blend in a bit better. Keep up the good work!

  • @trsfc1595
    @trsfc1595 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I've been using kerosene for approximately 5 years, I also add a little 2 stroke oil low ash to each tank fill, helps lubricate the pump and slightly increases the heat output

    • @humourless682
      @humourless682 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Taxi drivers do exactly the same thing. Maybe not a good idea to admit to it on here though?

    • @codprawn
      @codprawn ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Really no need. My heater has run for 5000 hours just on kerosene. No problem with the pump. I opened it up to check the glow plug. Clean as a whistle!

    • @trsfc1595
      @trsfc1595 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@codprawn Thanks for the info.

    • @DiHandley
      @DiHandley ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No need to do that. Kerosene is actually a lubricant anyway.

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@codprawn No surprises about clean combustion chamber while running kerosene as it is far lower in sulphur and burns less sooty than 35 second diesel or gas oil.
      I normally run 35 second gas oil but do also run kerosene sometimes and the lack of sooty carbon is very noticeable when running 28 second kerosene central heating oil.

  • @You-can-fix-it-yourself
    @You-can-fix-it-yourself ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In New Hampshire, kerosene has hit $7.99 a gallon. ouch. Diesel is $5.39 a gallon. Thank you for putting up this video, folks need to know what works. Can you make a heat exchanger for the exhaust? I have a few ideas, but if more people make them, we can see what works best.

  • @98Blackbess
    @98Blackbess ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have a Clarke XR80 20.5kW Paraffin/Diesel Industrial Space Heater in my workshop and i started running that on Kerosene last year in preference to hard to find red diesel and it burns lovely. No smoke and the same heat at a much cheaper cost.

  • @icarus_ap
    @icarus_ap ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I been using my heater most days in my workshop using kerosene since day one, and still no problem, I did mix in my used cooking oil when I change the oil in my deep-fat fryer

  • @davestatham812
    @davestatham812 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great stuff that heater really does work well, and even cheaper now, great video Martin, 👍🏻❤

  • @STTC
    @STTC ปีที่แล้ว +8

    totally agree Martin, alot of so called experts talk nonsense about these pumps, mine has stopped abruptly hundreds of times mid burn with no wind down, no damage, no effect, great video.

    • @retrorestore
      @retrorestore  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know Steve, There are a lot of people who just repeat what they have read and that gives a false true.

  • @gordonmitchell729
    @gordonmitchell729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent thanks. Great to actually see it working so well.

  • @Crypto-stacker4
    @Crypto-stacker4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep these videos coming your killing it

  • @keithnoneya
    @keithnoneya 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Run the exhaust through a water radiator. with no water in it of course, and put the exhaust for the water heater outside. You'll increase the efficiency of the heater by another 100%. Thanks for the great information. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

  • @matthews919
    @matthews919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got one in my shed , great bits of kit 👍🏻

  • @patrickbodine1300
    @patrickbodine1300 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Excellent video mate!
    I have been heating my house for 3 years with one of those heaters using "off-road diesel" (non-taxed red) without issue. Occasionally, it will fail to start initially but then it shuts off and properly restarts for the all night run. I am not usually a purchaser of Chinese made products, but this has been the exception and has, so far, turned out to be worthwhile.

    • @JohnSnow-vf8jo
      @JohnSnow-vf8jo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I tried to heat my house ( 3 bed semi ) with my 5KW diesel heater, I would have died of hypothermia, PDQ.

  • @firstlight05
    @firstlight05 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU MARTIN FOR ANOTHER REALLY HELPFUL VIDEO

  • @tinkeringtaylor3053
    @tinkeringtaylor3053 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video Martin, you never know how things work till you try it and see what happens, I've just a little log stove in my workshop to boil the kettle 😀

  • @robertbills4290
    @robertbills4290 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Martin. Everyone these days need to watch the penny's. I'm looking at getting me one of these heaters for my workshop

  • @TheGreaseySpoon
    @TheGreaseySpoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kerosene runs 100% fine, been running mine on it for 6 months. It has the same calorific value as diesel but burns cleaner.

  • @PhillsGarage
    @PhillsGarage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was thinking of getting one, but didn’t appreciate how loud the roar is! And the fuel pump clicking would drive me crazy!!!
    Great informative vid thanks.

  • @itsallfabrication
    @itsallfabrication ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Good one Martin. I've done loads of testing with these heaters and domestic heating oil (kerosene) is a good choice of fuel, it will lubricate the pump, and won't clog up the burn chamber unlike used engine oil. And I run my workshop heater on a 240v to 12v power supply too, and there is no issues with it.

    • @itsallfabrication
      @itsallfabrication ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Forgot to add......Try not to go over 2 metres with the exhaust length, as the heater struggles with the increased back pressure at start up, resulting in failure to start.

    • @retrorestore
      @retrorestore  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the info

    • @dr_jaymz
      @dr_jaymz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @itsallfabrication this is 100pc correct, because it doesn't regulate it assumes airmass flow from only the fan speed so anything different will make it run rich and any richer than stock causes soot to build up. That is why they have an alpine mode which reducing fueling by a fixed 20pc. You can also lean it out by putting your fuel lower because the pumps are calibrated at 1m head, if you increase that, you get less fuel. This also applies to exhaust heat recovery. If you recover heat, you increase the density of the gas it has to push out, like an intercooler. Whether or not the effect is significant, I have no idea. They are best run lean if you can unless you want to dismantle it every 10 hours.

    • @itsallfabrication
      @itsallfabrication ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr_jaymz What James said.

    • @patrickbodine1300
      @patrickbodine1300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The pumps are designed to be lubricated by the fuel, same as an automobile.

  • @regd.2263
    @regd.2263 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Put the filter in the filler cap it will filter as you fill it up. kerosene is paraffin but paraffin is refined, and I remember paraffin being twelve & half pence (two shillings & sixpence) a gallon the early 1960's

  • @billcarson9565
    @billcarson9565 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video Sir, I bought one of these still sat boxed, will be putting it all together soon, thanks for the links to the spares! Subscribed!

  • @peterwilson5528
    @peterwilson5528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi. I got one of these and only got three uses out of it before it gave E03 error. The glow plug went. Just my luck :( I bought a new glow plug from China. I thought it might take longer for the supplier to send one. The supplier is also sending one. I am hoping it gets here it gets it going again as winter is coming here fast in Southern Finland and I got this heater to help heat the off-grid country place. For me being British in Finland trying to get online information locally is pretty hard even though I can speak the lingo a bit. Great videos you are making by the way. The positive attitude and enthusiasm give us heater novices hope :)

  • @F4Insight-uq6nt
    @F4Insight-uq6nt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When it comes to things like this, being on good terms with your local chippy boss is a bonus.

  • @philf5043
    @philf5043 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have just started using Kerosene after Red diesel became unavailable locally . I bought my Kerosene at the pump and heater ran very well for a couple of tank fills then shut down unexpectedly . I found that the kerosene is dirtier than diesel or red diesel and blocked the pump . I flushed the pump and cleaned the tank of the bro sludge and all is now ok . Be prepared to filter any Kerosene from the pump or fit a filter in line . They are cheap on line and mines on order .
    After three years of running on red diesel the heater was very clean inside the burn chamber with hardly any ash. Well impressed. In Kent the kerosene currently cost £1-29 a litre ! still expensive and i found that the heater uses Kerosene quicker than Red diesel . Good vids keep them coming.

  • @trevorjenkins1976
    @trevorjenkins1976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Noticed lately the Chinese deisel heater's have increased in price wished I'd purchased 2 when I bought my first.
    Thanks for the information very interesting, enjoyed your video's

  • @kevinpearce5705
    @kevinpearce5705 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks a good bit of kit Martin. Hopefully I will be able to fit one in my garage. When it's completed

  • @vdubs6068
    @vdubs6068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid Martin 👍

  • @Handmemoretramadol
    @Handmemoretramadol ปีที่แล้ว

    Just filled my house tank 1200lt at 73p /lt thanks for this I’ll get one for the conservatory now I know it runs on 28sec as I just need to siphon some out of my tank cheers mate

  • @emilee172
    @emilee172 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    to recover heat going out the door through the exhaust, I have a few sections of base board hot water heat pipes, 3/4 copper pipe with aluminum fins and that I added to the exhaust and was able to extract most of the wasted heat going out the door, be careful Not to add too many bends as in a 90 degree elbow, I use soft bends so not to create too much back pressure and stay with the max of 270 degree bends, but those old baseboard hot water heat pipes got back most of what would be wasted

  • @peterferguson2344
    @peterferguson2344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, as were the last ones 👍 enough to tempt me

  • @andrewfoster9686
    @andrewfoster9686 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video fella. Ive got mine set up indoors. originally installed in the loft but it wasnt giving the heat to the house due to hot air rising. Changed it to under the stairs and its blowing warm air all round the hall and upstairs. Re the noisy pump, ive suspended mine on cable ties so the sound doesnt resonate through any structure and its quiet as a mouse. stay safe and keep the vids coming 👍

  • @wrxs1781
    @wrxs1781 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good video, and in Canada we have three available products that can be used in a diesel heater, 1. home heating oil, which is colored diesel, 2.diesel fuel amber in color, 3. kerosene which is clear and burns hotter than the before mentioned, and is also jet fuel. In the winter I run a 50/50 diesel, kerosene mix, and straight diesel for fall and spring.

    • @markrich3271
      @markrich3271 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I own multiple diesel trucks and heat my house with oil. Our home house oil in the northern usa is red dye kerosene . Red kero will run your diesel truck but will ruin your high pressure pump and injectors after time.

    • @wrxs1781
      @wrxs1781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markrich3271 Good point, thanks for the reply.

    • @markrich3271
      @markrich3271 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @wrxs1781 There allot of pre common rail folks that have mechanical pumps that can run anything in their tank, darn injectors are so much money today I would be in tears if I killed my hpfp and injectors .

  • @fixitorstripitGardenmachines
    @fixitorstripitGardenmachines ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid Martin. I hope to get back in a shed soon and your vids will be a good refference for when i put one of them in it, cheers

    • @retrorestore
      @retrorestore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Neil, good luck bud.👍

  • @armoris66
    @armoris66 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid mate. Really enjoyed that. 👍🏾

  • @haydenuk02
    @haydenuk02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top work and a good thing to know cheers for the video take care

  • @davekauffman8727
    @davekauffman8727 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Diesel fuel is kerosene with an amount of paraffin added to lubricate the injector pump and injectors. I just bought one of those heaters, and I plan to run kerosene in it. Thank you for taking one apart and explaining what all I can expect to find in mine. 🙂

    • @Lordlindef
      @Lordlindef ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you have to lube it whit oil ore something.
      Cos kerosene is not exaktly what you belive.
      I am captain and know all fuels

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes we used to make diesel to run our free flight model aeroplanes when we were kids back in the 70s 40% ether. 20% castor oil for lube, and 40% paraffin it made 100ml of fuel. I suppose you could make more if you could find some ether that mkight be hard to find in the UK these days without a license to buy it, the more explosive the substance the more difficult it is to buy it.

    • @Lordlindef
      @Lordlindef ปีที่แล้ว

      Cerosine is pure parafin ur clowns

    • @craigchamberlain
      @craigchamberlain 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Diesel is not kerosene with paraffin added. Kerosene is a type of paraffin but diesel is a different fractional distillate of crude oil. They are both extracted from crude oil but kerosene has a lower boiler point and so is extracted before diesel and is therefore a lighter oil. It's true that kerosene does not have the same lubricant qualities of diesel which is why it's not a good idea to run kerosene in a diesel engine.

  • @maxnmilly
    @maxnmilly ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thats all I have used for the last 3 months and runs well no issues.

  • @brothersofvalhall
    @brothersofvalhall ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and super great tips ceap em coming sir
    all the love from norway

  • @therealnorthmedia
    @therealnorthmedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice one Martin great video mate 👍

  • @RebelsInc969
    @RebelsInc969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have used Tesco sunflower oil it worked fine & still works now 👍

  • @craigchamberlain
    @craigchamberlain 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've lived in the UK for over 50 years and have never heard anyone call kerosene "house fuel". Maybe it's a regional thing but I've only ever heard it called kerosene or heating oil. I've just bought one of these diesel heaters and will be trying it out tomorrow with both diesel and kerosene, which is what we use to heat our home and would be very convenient if I could use that instead of diesel in my heater.
    Also, kerosene is a type of paraffin so it should be no surprise that it looks like paraffin.

    • @chipperfluffy
      @chipperfluffy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People in the US Call stuff whatever they want. It really doesn't make sense but it depends where we grew up

    • @BlackJedi169
      @BlackJedi169 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Paraffin

  • @mrbigvanlife7130
    @mrbigvanlife7130 ปีที่แล้ว

    They work on used engine oil a treat and we pay a fortune for that so good to see it giving something back

  • @MakeDoAndMend1
    @MakeDoAndMend1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been running my heater in my Talbot Talbot Express on Paraffin for 5 years. Now Kerosene or Domestic heating oil. No problems. Watch my vids. However finding Diesel cheaper to buy now. My Bongo I am in the process of fitting a Diesel heater from main fuel tank. Cheers from old George and Jane

  • @cookiecook7042
    @cookiecook7042 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Martin, on John Mck 47 a experienced guy on these who does multiple test on these heaters says kerosene ok but to put diesel through ocasionally as the pump relys on it for lubrication unlike kerosene, but if pumps are cheap I spose the cost you save in diesel would compensate for that.Enjoyed the video.👍

    • @codprawn
      @codprawn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mine had done 5000 hours on kerosene. No problem at all with the pump.

  • @user-xb5zu6zu7j
    @user-xb5zu6zu7j 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agree, I use home heating oil (28 second oil) for a year now and it worksout excellent with chinese heaters.

  • @ianhamilton8272
    @ianhamilton8272 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Local marina sells red diesel for £1.10 a litre, had to print off gov legislation to show I could buy for domestic heating though, they wouldn't let me buy it initially because they didn't have correct paperwork.

  • @stuartdavis8327
    @stuartdavis8327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paraffin is kerosene....it has just been de-sulphurised so it can be burned safety indoors...that's why it's more expensive than heating oil.... aviation fuel is also kerosene but highly processed to ensure there is no moisture in it...the colour difference is purely dye for taxation purposes

  • @oojimmyflip
    @oojimmyflip ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I spent 7 years recycling old veg oil to run my 1998 1.9 litre diesel car and learnt a lot about lubrication of a diesel fuel system, I often had to add 2 stroke oil in small quantities to aid the pump in the car, Kerosene will be less able to lubricate the pump as diesel would being a heavy oil, so it may well be in your interest to add a tiny amount say 10ml of 2 stroke oil to the bottles and shake it all up to mix it before pouring it into the tank, well done for getting it to run on a substitute fuel.
    Try turning the rubber mount for the pump upside down so the pump weight rests on the rubber mounting. it almost silenced my pump mounted to the back of the metal case. changing the fuel line for the nylon fuel line upgrade kit also helped
    . I think the idea that the ecu gets damaged if the heater shuts down without its cooling cycle has been prooved wrong with people testing it but what do you do in a power cut if dont have a power supply from a battery backed up by a charger, do you freeze?
    we are coming to that time soon that we were promised cycling power cuts across the UK have you cheacked your area code to see if you will be affected? here in Kettering we are going to be without power if the plan goes ahead on Wednesday mornings between middnight and 4am and for 6 hours on Sundays between midday and 6pm. Ive got a little 750watt 2 stroke genny that will run for 6 hours on 4 litres of petrol which will run the tv and a computer and the battery backup will run the diesel heater as the boiler power supply will be off if they go ahead with the plans. the code to search for your area cycling powercuts is on your elecy bills at the top of the page.

    • @bigoldgrizzly
      @bigoldgrizzly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      on the other hand, pumps are dirt cheap and can be changed in under 5 minutes

    • @oojimmyflip
      @oojimmyflip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bigoldgrizzly yes but ebay postage can leave you cold for weeks🤣

  • @kmoecub
    @kmoecub ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The people saying that it can't be run from an external power supply just don't know diddly squat about electricity. All the electronics care about is getting the appropriate DC voltage and being able to draw enough current.

  • @fly1956
    @fly1956 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Martin, I have 3 of the 8kw diesel heaters and yes they can/do melt down. I was camping and my 3 year old pulled the power plug loose from my heater when it was running full bore. I got power hooked back up within about 15 seconds, but by that time it had melted the case and would still work but stinks like melted plastic. I have lost power while it is idleing and no problem, but loose power when it is cooking hard and it melts down. Mine smelled so bad I had to replace the case and it still smells very bad. I run the one in my shed on a 120V to 12V power converter but if you have a power outage you will lose your heater. Just my experience. To be safe I have heard of guys running them off a 12V car battery with a trickle charger hooked to the battery to top it off. That way you never loose 12V. I will try that when I get a few extra dollars for a battery and charger. I really love these heaters! I will also check the price of kerosene here in New York Mountains. Thanks for the video. Cheers!

    • @fly1956
      @fly1956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These heaters REALLY NEED the cool down cycle before they shut off...

  • @nicholaslloyd2829
    @nicholaslloyd2829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi I have been running my 8kw on 50/50 Kerosene and Red Der for 3 years now and it works great .Nick

    • @davepearce6870
      @davepearce6870 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately we can’t buy Red Diesel any more! In Cambridgeshire anyway

  • @lmstuber6044
    @lmstuber6044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video for the deisol heater iv brought one about 3 months ago for my caravan, I will be trying to he kerosene out. Just got to find some for sale .👍

  • @jillfriendship1054
    @jillfriendship1054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Valuable advice and well presented many thanks am now subscribed.

    • @retrorestore
      @retrorestore  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @grahamcliffe8672
    @grahamcliffe8672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is my understanding that Kerosene and paraffin are essentially the same, apart from when its sold as paraffin it has been filtered through a finer mesh to get more bits out. Also as a few people have mentioned it doesnt lubricate as well as diesel, so the pump may wear out sooner

  • @Stephen-Ballyclare
    @Stephen-Ballyclare 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great tip, my all in one running great on mr funnel filtered, kero and a measure of diptane per fill, thanks for information tis appreciated

  • @andyluamarta
    @andyluamarta ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent news, well done that man.

  • @gavinwilln7571
    @gavinwilln7571 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Be careful when extending the exhaust, it is not like an engine. Small amount of back pressure can cause poor combustion. It is fan driven, and at a low pressure. Exhaust should be as short as possible and as straight as possible, are a good starting point. Think of a garden sprinkler, the longer hose you have the less water comes out of the sprinkler.😉

    • @bernieoldham7580
      @bernieoldham7580 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what would be the symptons of a poor combustion.i was going to extend exhaust to scavenage heat from it. thanks

    • @patrickbodine1300
      @patrickbodine1300 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I do not use a "muffler". Inmo, it is not needed. The sound is the same, with or without muffler.

  • @douglundy5755
    @douglundy5755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kerosene or Jet fuel, heating oil, all highly similar and in the US about the same price depending on tax and local fees..Shouldnt smoke like that! These heaters are GREAT!

  • @stephenthomas729
    @stephenthomas729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video thank you.

  • @alanclark8837
    @alanclark8837 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good vid, the only problem with kerosene is lack of lubrication for the pump, it's lubrication properties are not as good as diesel, add a small amount of oil the the mix & should be Ok

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a small filter before my 12 v 22 ml pump works very well been checking the filter no junk in if yet too

  • @bitsofshit
    @bitsofshit ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the useful links for spares great info as always i purchase kerosene in 20l containers but have it shipped from down south online as can not get it near me i use a 12vdc 20 amp led power supply no issues cheap but also have a handy pot on pcb to adjust so you increase to 13.5 vdc , not bothered with the battery chat either lol cheers

  • @richardwright9563
    @richardwright9563 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've run my heater on parafin for 4 years now as it's ment to burn hotter and cleaner never had any sooting up problems still going strong

  • @asciimation
    @asciimation ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've played with home made jet engines and used kerosene in the afterburner for one of those. If you don't ignite it properly you do get huge clouds of white smoke as it vapourises. It's how they make the white smoke trails behind some planes at airshows. These heaters are similar to small jet engines but aren't quite the same. I really should get one of these things to play with they are so cheap and there is so much info out there on them. Plus I have loads of used engine oil to get rid of!

    • @Moonlightshadow-lq4fr
      @Moonlightshadow-lq4fr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have loads of engine oil it would be best to make a dedicated burner out of a vast range of things, from propane bottles to beer kegs. Oil in these diesel heaters is a no no for sure :)

    • @winnytjar4873
      @winnytjar4873 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chemtrails are sprayed in the air to bring about climate change.

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Round this part of Sussex it's called Kerosene at the pumps. It works well though when used in place of diesel in engines it lacks the lubrication an wears out the high pressure diesel injector pumps and injectors. Can't imagine it being an issue in the diesel heaters though as most of it is just moving and the pump isn't high pressure. I also use kerosene in Primus (and similar) stoves and blowlamps as well as Tilley lamps. In many parts of the world paraffin is called keroene. However what is sold in B&Q and the like is apparently a bit lighter and is also a bit lighter than what used to be sold as paraffin here 50 years ago, hence the price.

    • @fraross6212
      @fraross6212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good to know it works in Primus stoves. I have 7 of differant makes and sizes and love tinkerin with them. 👍

    • @BensWorkshop
      @BensWorkshop 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fraross6212 Well, there's lots of tinkering with blow lamps, Tilley lamps and stoves on my channel!

  • @leotl3368
    @leotl3368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good to know! I've always wondered if the diesel provides less heat per £ than gas, wonder how this compares

  • @professionalidiots101
    @professionalidiots101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heating oil has been my go to alternative to paraffin in weed burners for years now, where as diesel was useless.
    I suspect you will probably go through more heating oil than diesel in this instance, but provided the injector remains capable this will be cheaper and a win, win in long term use 👍🏻

  • @gerard394
    @gerard394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Martin put the super sir on instead lol love the videos 👍

  • @Seafariireland
    @Seafariireland 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super job!

  • @alandykes2519
    @alandykes2519 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on Martin 👍👍👍👍

  • @markellis4229
    @markellis4229 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting 👍 and nearly half the price

  • @billietyree2214
    @billietyree2214 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I ran my diesel Rabbit on pure corn oil a couple of times when truck stops were just too far apart. Topped out at 45 mpg and smelled like french fries. I think you could run your heater on just about any pure cooking oil. I wonder how olive oil would smell. Probably make your neighbors hungry.

    • @spiritmusic4322
      @spiritmusic4322 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Olive oil has toxic fumes - be careful

    • @lloydevans2900
      @lloydevans2900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For diesel engines, straight vegetable oil is usually fine (provided the fuel pumps and injectors can handle it), though you can run into problems in very cold winters since the oil can turn into a semi-liquid gel or even freeze solid in the fuel tank and then the fuel pump can't deliver it to the engine. You can cure that by mixing about 20% kerosene or white spirit (aka paint thinning solvent) with the vegetable oil, which reduces the viscosity and lowers the freezing point of the mixture. A bit like how the "ice road truckers" or aircraft in northern Canada mix some gasoline in with the diesel or jet fuel to stop it freezing in the fuel tanks.
      For these diesel heaters though, vegetable oil can cause problems, again due to the higher viscosity and higher boiling point than petroleum diesel. The most common problem is when starting the heater from cold, because it doesn't vaporise easily enough. So you either get unburned oil coming out of the exhaust, or a lot of soot build-up in the exhaust because the oil isn't completely vaporising, or the heater just fails to start up completely no matter how many times you try it and you just get the "ignition failure" error code over and over again.
      It is possible to run a diesel heater on vegetable oil, and there are two strategies to enable this to work:
      (1). The simplest way, which needs no modifications to the heater itself, is to pre-mix the vegetable oil 50:50 with white spirit or kerosene before pouring it into the fuel tank. Again, this lowers the viscosity and the lower boiling fraction enables the glow plug to vaporise enough of the fuel on start-up for the combustion to get going properly. Does it really take as much as 50% to achieve this? By my own experiments, yes - I initially tried with 20% white spirit and that wasn't enough for my heater to start. I tried again and again with higher proportions, and found 50% to be the point where it would reliably ignite every time.
      (2): Another way, which does require some modifications, is to add a second fuel tank to the system, with a fuel change-over valve to switch between tanks before the fuel gets to the pump. Ensure that one tank is filled with ordinary diesel or kerosene, and use that one whenever you start the heater up from cold. Once it has been running at full power for at least 10 minutes and so is fully warmed up, you can flip the valve so it uses the vegetable oil. You have to do the reverse when shutting it off though - flip the valve back to the diesel or kerosene and let it continue running for long enough to purge any vegetable oil in the fuel line between the valve and the heater unit (probably another 10 minutes to be sure) before you shut it off. That way it will be starting up on the diesel or kerosene again the next time you start it up

    • @georgeton4991
      @georgeton4991 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol just dont run it on filtered sardine can oil.

  • @MrMadenuff
    @MrMadenuff ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice way of removing stickers off the notice board too lol.

  • @steviey9804
    @steviey9804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been running kerosene for a couple of months now because it's cheaper to buy, I use Nolan fuels at Banbury they're very helpful and sell the 25ltr containers if you don't have one. It's very smokey on start up and doesn't give as much heat but it's much cheaper, I had to extend my exhaust a little as its a bit smellier when running

  • @cw2126
    @cw2126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boss watch lad, here from the Clio days 👍🚘🇬🇧

  • @rodgercostello9814
    @rodgercostello9814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Good and informative video sir ty.

  • @Tonedog88
    @Tonedog88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Started using my diesel heater on kerosene, since I had 15 gallons left over and it was why I bought the heater to begin with. Still haven't started with the diesel yet--got about 5 gals of kero left, but imagine the diesel will work just as well since that's what it's called--a diesel heater! Kero it more expensive than diesel in my area of the US (West Virginia).

  • @Blueboy9055
    @Blueboy9055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information 👍👍

  • @MalteseMafia
    @MalteseMafia ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Might be worth mixing with some vegetable oil, aid lubrication, reduce costs also.

    • @briananderson3801
      @briananderson3801 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Use your old motor oil strain it first

  • @kb0guy
    @kb0guy ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a mixture of 65/35 diesel and soybean oil. Nice hot burn running in alpine mode.

  • @sibfishingadventuresuk1558
    @sibfishingadventuresuk1558 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had mine 5 years ran it on engine oil mixed with a range of different oils including gearbox oil, old premix.. smokes on start up but runs perfectly

  • @brianwallis4544
    @brianwallis4544 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been running mine in my van for 2 years on Kerosene. Just had mu house tank filled up at 77p a litre. Great video Martin

    • @retrorestore
      @retrorestore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice 👍

    • @robton007
      @robton007 ปีที่แล้ว

      77p wth......who delivers that?

    • @InteraliaTony
      @InteraliaTony ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robton007 The national average heating oil price is currently 82.9p per litre and last weekend, my local oil club price was 81.5 - but this is usually in minimum quantities of 500 litres. I expect readers would be interested where you can go buy just a few litres Martin? - Interesting videos though. Thank you.

    • @janetbishop6031
      @janetbishop6031 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His diesel heater is clicking in the video. Doesn’t that sound drive you crazy in your van? How in the world could you sleep with that noise?

  • @leiferickson713
    @leiferickson713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kerosene is 5.29 $ a gallon here in the USA. Off road Diesel is 3.65$ a gallon. I run 75% diesel to 25% kerosene. Mixed in a 20 gallon aluminum fuel tank.

  • @batterymakermarkii2654
    @batterymakermarkii2654 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve seen people run diesel engines on, of all things,french fry oil. The aroma would be intoxicating, but I’d be hungry all the time….

  • @phillee9651
    @phillee9651 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the tip ..

  • @mikestickersm3mxb279
    @mikestickersm3mxb279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Martin we had a power cut and it could not cool down, i got error code E-03 when I turned it back on, this was the glow plug error. Got a new glow plug and all worked. So a power cut took out the glow plug. The heater was brand new.

  • @tomcochrane56
    @tomcochrane56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff .

  • @tonycamplin8607
    @tonycamplin8607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Domestic heating oil is perfectly fine to use, it doesn't need any added oil and burns much cleaner than diesel. I've never heard Domestic heating oil called kerosene, the oil suppliers definitely don't call it that, I've been using it for well over 60 years and there's only 5%VAT on it.

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kerosene, also known as Jet-A1 is preferred in jet turbines for the simple reason it burns cleaner. Some jet turbines in helicopters and light aircraft can use diesel......but it means a lot more frequent maintenance (soot fouling) and reduced output. When the US Navy moved from bunker fuel to jet fuel in their ship boilers, it dramatically cut maintenance to remove soot build up.

  • @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
    @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 ปีที่แล้ว

    good vid on channel thanks lee

  • @alanwilkinson5152
    @alanwilkinson5152 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Might be a good idea to use a little oil in the kerosene to lubricate the pump Alan Northern Ireland 👍

    • @retrorestore
      @retrorestore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great point!

    • @neilfoster814
      @neilfoster814 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heating Kerosene (C2 grade) doesn't need oil added to it. C1 Kerosene which you get from DIY stores for greenhouse heaters, Tilley lamps etc DOES need oil added to the ratio of 1:5000.

    • @modzzjust4u
      @modzzjust4u ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neilfoster814 maybe not for kerosene burners, but these are meant to run on diesel so oil would be advised.

    • @modzzjust4u
      @modzzjust4u ปีที่แล้ว

      I use 85% kerosene 15% engine oil (for legal reasons unused of course)

    • @davywatt9367
      @davywatt9367 ปีที่แล้ว

      Defo oil req spot on buddy

  • @martinmilligan4521
    @martinmilligan4521 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using one to heat my whole house for 3 years , tried diesel, kerosene and oil/diesel mix , all work

  • @wesKEVQJ
    @wesKEVQJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got one of these to heat a porch area that the furnace can't heat. I'm putting it outside in a tool box and ducting the air to the room through the window. I've been looking at used egr coolers for a cheap way to heat antifreeze with the exhaust and pump it into a small radiator in the room. It looks like you can get another 1000 watts of heat. I plan on putting one in a camper trailer eventually but I think in that case I am going to get a 2 meter baseboard heater (the kind for a boiler) and pipe the exhaust through that before letting it go outside, I think as long as it slopes down it should be okay. Good to know it runs on kerosene. I imagine you could run it on lard as long as it was kept warm enough to be a liquid. The instructions on mine says it will run on petrol or diesel but I am sketchy about the petrol.

  • @donkirk5433
    @donkirk5433 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your correct home heating is best :)

  • @agentp6621
    @agentp6621 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kerosene in the US is what I believe you call paraffin. We have heating oil (typically along the east coast around New England). That’s what this appears to be. Kerosene used to be dirt cheap but has jumped up to something stupid like $15-20 for a half gallon (close to 2 litres). For awhile there the pound was about $2. But last I saw it was around $1.30 per pound. Either way it still stupid expensive for kerosene. My cousin works a fuel truck operator for aircraft. Jet fuel is mostly kerosene. I’ve asked if I could buy some from him but he said he can’t. Apparently people ask for it frequently for sale on the side. Company policy won’t allow it. I didn’t bother asking the price but I’d feel pretty confident that it would be something close to $5-10 a gallon (4 litre). At my job I work as an aircraft mechanic. Sometimes we have to drain the fuel cells. I haven’t come up with a method for fuel storage. But it gets tossed as waste (hazmat). We tossed 2-3 gallons about two weeks ago. I need to buy the heater first I guess. Then the fuel storage. Then I’d be doing well.

  • @1supertec
    @1supertec 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I do agree with what you're saying about the position of the pickup pipe but I would just stick a filter in as it is just best practice for such a device, also kerosene is a much higher energy value so I would be careful running this at full power as it will get much hotter than its designed to 👍

    • @Yahatacooky
      @Yahatacooky 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, Please forgive my ignorance but is paraffin the same as kerosene?

    • @1supertec
      @1supertec 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Yahatacooky no paraffin is in the same hydrocarbon group but is typically more refined.

  • @copeyskoichattingbubbles4775
    @copeyskoichattingbubbles4775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idear.iv seen a video where he as put the exaust pipe into a £20 radiater and then the outlet of the rad to the exaust box.

  • @randr10
    @randr10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hooked mine up to an old car battery and I'm using the maintenance charger like what you'd use for a classic car to keep the battery topped off. I've only been using it for a couple days but it seems to do the job.

  • @donhutton2641
    @donhutton2641 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely better, especially in Canada. Home heating oil doesn’t have all the road taxes on it, like diesel does.