Circuits 1 - Thevenin and Norton Equivalents

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  • Zac Sutton of UConn HKN determines the Thevenin and Norton Equivalents of an electrical circuit.
    Still don't get it? Have questions relating to this topic or others? Suggestions for other problems you'd like to see us do? Post in the comments below or email us at "questions.hkn.uconn@gmail.com"
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  • @ShakuntTambe
    @ShakuntTambe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Aren't the 10 and 40 ohm resistors in series, not parallel?

    • @UConnHKN
      @UConnHKN  6 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Nope! an easy way to see this is to look at the circuit with the sources set to zero. We can then see those two resistors share equipotentials nodes!
      ~andrew

    • @TehkNinja
      @TehkNinja 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No because the wire with the 20ohm and 4a above it

    • @dabulls1g
      @dabulls1g 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      excellent response.

    • @frankreiserm.s.8039
      @frankreiserm.s.8039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, for the mesh loop, but not for outputs a and b.

    • @dudewholikesfood6769
      @dudewholikesfood6769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@UConnHKN I dont understand they still look in series to me :/

  • @orey16
    @orey16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    You explained this concept better in 12 minutes than my school in 2 hours.

  • @ddrarrow
    @ddrarrow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy explained this concept better in 12 minutes than my professor did in a week. I've been going to my 8 AM lecture for weeks, listening to my thick-accented professor mumble for an hour when I could've just watched these videos...

  • @edwardkristel17
    @edwardkristel17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Watching this 15 minutes before my final exam in circuit 1. THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @corymohill-smith4380
    @corymohill-smith4380 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much. I will be using this video for the rest of this semester. I really appreciate you putting this up

  • @saneindra4708
    @saneindra4708 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would never come over this concept.untill I watched this..Thanks a lot

  • @justinleeflores
    @justinleeflores 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that last part about being able to use 2 of the values to solve for the 3rd is awesome. Thank you!

  • @pengyuanchen3080
    @pengyuanchen3080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Zac, your teaching is very clear! Helped a lot

  • @michaelpace59
    @michaelpace59 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear and comprehensive review! Thanks for making this vid 👍🏼

  • @stylz_og
    @stylz_og 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i chilled tf down then i watched it for the second time ..now i understand it better ..thank you dude

  • @lindiza1659
    @lindiza1659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow thanks, this really helped to explain the fundamentals as well. Great for revision. Cool way of doing videos also.

  • @03ceezy18
    @03ceezy18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yall explained this so well, your the reason I passed EE 213 last quarter

  • @garysellars8914
    @garysellars8914 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these analysis things. Interesting to see how it all works out.

  • @zism8316
    @zism8316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you 4 saving me 3 hrs of revision

  • @kaydendion8945
    @kaydendion8945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you make circuits a cakewalk, your awesome, keep being awesome.

  • @cntchds
    @cntchds 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Your video is rad, and you should feel rad. Thank you.

  • @Quellification
    @Quellification 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's a really unique way to prepare a video.. very well done. Useful video aswel. Thumbs UP!

  • @a.nelprober4971
    @a.nelprober4971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If anyone is having issues following any of these videos, your goldem ticket to understanding is to learn about the principle of superposition of linear circuits. Organicchemistry tutor did a video on this. In a nutshell, its the idea that you can sum up the current contributiins of each individual power source. Makes it so much easier and you can forget about all of this norton and thevenin equivalent stuff which is offputting

    • @midfuzzball
      @midfuzzball ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @PirateFunk
    @PirateFunk ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Needed a quick refresher for my FE exam.

  • @EmreDUR
    @EmreDUR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much, sir. You made it seem so easy.

  • @gwenshirebros4883
    @gwenshirebros4883 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clear as day! Thanks!

  • @awesomestuff8819
    @awesomestuff8819 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thank you! Awesome explanation!!

  • @subramanianv5533
    @subramanianv5533 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video, helped a lot. I understood the concept clearly

  • @EncodedStorm
    @EncodedStorm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great great review, thank you :)

  • @duartesilva6824
    @duartesilva6824 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much! Very good video, really helped me!

  • @pablogirod2615
    @pablogirod2615 ปีที่แล้ว

    First video to actually make me understand this

  • @Maybe.019
    @Maybe.019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you
    I really appreciate your work :)

  • @lLl-fl7rv
    @lLl-fl7rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The product over the sum trick to find parallel eq resistance... GENIUS

  • @TheTrainIsCominggggg
    @TheTrainIsCominggggg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best explanation! Got myself ready for my EE finals later! Thank you!

    • @yldrmutfak2340
      @yldrmutfak2340 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      my proffessor explained the thevenin much better. The only think we need is the logic behind what we do. Not all the calculation. And everyone do basic calculations (summing, dividing ; of course we can do these things!?) and dont tell what is the logic. I think this video is not different!

  • @donovanvaughan6053
    @donovanvaughan6053 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was incredibly helpful

  • @surayuthpintawong8332
    @surayuthpintawong8332 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for your generosity

  • @mikes_channel
    @mikes_channel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a fantastic explanation! Great video :3

  • @Michael-jv2gf
    @Michael-jv2gf ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! Thank you.

  • @StandforAjdetray
    @StandforAjdetray 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Sir!😊
    Loop1:
    60=10(i1-i2)+40i1,50i1=100,i1=2a
    Loop2:
    I2=4a
    and then Rth=10//40=8
    Vth=40*i1=80v,Isc=Vth/Rth=80/8=10A

  • @eriknelson2559
    @eriknelson2559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great insight about removing voltage & current sources by removing the effects they would generate, stop a current with an open yet eliminate a voltage with a short

  • @madladdan
    @madladdan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally clicked how this all works in this video XD Thanks man

  • @AbangMagnet
    @AbangMagnet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the explanation .. I understand now

  • @mrhands6949
    @mrhands6949 7 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    hes good at writing backwards too

    • @coreyhulse8226
      @coreyhulse8226 7 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      I think they film him writing normally then just mirror the video when editing. Would be far easier than writing it all backwards I would think haha

    • @blatz4306
      @blatz4306 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      that's not possible.

    • @14598175
      @14598175 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Some people are just backwards thinkers! ha! sorry, I just couldn't....resist ha!

    • @DinsAFK
      @DinsAFK 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      video is flipped sideways so we can read

    • @mrhands6949
      @mrhands6949 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It was a joke honey

  • @kurtrowland5587
    @kurtrowland5587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. This helped me

  • @alexchiggs8877
    @alexchiggs8877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful, good explanation

  • @owaisabdulmoeed7644
    @owaisabdulmoeed7644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:45 just made my life so much easier. Great video!

  • @chachikuadkachichuad5553
    @chachikuadkachichuad5553 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thanks for the video man good explanation

  • @lunden6997
    @lunden6997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When solving for for Norton, when the current flows around from B and onwards, is it not possible for the current to flow upwards throw the 40 ohm resistor. All three branches have resistors?

  • @zlu8758
    @zlu8758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i just got 99% on my test thanks

    • @chiouhauthieng3614
      @chiouhauthieng3614 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wow tats amazing

    • @UConnHKN
      @UConnHKN  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazing! Keep it up!

  • @berkantay435
    @berkantay435 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    U SAVED MY LIFE!!!!!!

  • @Eng_mohamed_199
    @Eng_mohamed_199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @tugusavanindra1150
    @tugusavanindra1150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if i put a resistor between points a and b? can i short those? (eliminating the resistor) and when i draw the norton equivalent should i draw the resistor too between points a and b?

  • @mschecter0078
    @mschecter0078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit this actually helped me get it. Thanks a lot!

  • @ahmmok6914
    @ahmmok6914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if 10 and 40 ohm resistor are in parallel than the current should be divided?

  • @Dr.Wiryajati
    @Dr.Wiryajati 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice methode presenttion and very clear. good luck

  • @haniefsofi
    @haniefsofi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done.

  • @user-xc4nl7jl1e
    @user-xc4nl7jl1e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why part of 4A current after 20Ω recistor doesn't pass throught 40 Ω resistor ?

  • @deepaksinghanwal
    @deepaksinghanwal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very helpful video.

  • @wilsonlim2975
    @wilsonlim2975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    should the loop analysis of mesh 1, treat the voltage source as positive because it is going from neg to positive

  • @MrCODfan360
    @MrCODfan360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Legend

  • @hanslaine8210
    @hanslaine8210 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very clear. thank you

  • @farnazansari9697
    @farnazansari9697 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a million!

  • @meows_and_woof
    @meows_and_woof 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To everyone wondering, it looks like he’s writing on a glass and the video is flipped horizontally, so all writings appear right and not back to front.

  • @maesaavedra3116
    @maesaavedra3116 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    why was the 40 ohm resistor used in getting the thevenin voltage?

  • @asad5986
    @asad5986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Guys, not sure if you still answer questions in the comments or not, but I was wondering. Why isn't IN 14 amps(the 4 amp source plus the new i1 of 10 amps)? Doesn't KCL say that all currents must equal at a junction?

  • @declanbracken2577
    @declanbracken2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn't the 8 ohm and 80 V battery of the simplified circuit be in parallel not series? There's a difference yes?

  • @TheBen1832
    @TheBen1832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video thanks!

  • @SFryFilms
    @SFryFilms 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You!

  • @tehnoobestworld
    @tehnoobestworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy teaches way better than my college professor

  • @nimasherpa5275
    @nimasherpa5275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    from Vth and Rth norton current can be easily done...just divide vth/rth i.e 80/8 =10 amps...just using source transformation...

    • @InsanelyDusty
      @InsanelyDusty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      okay im glad i wasn't the only one who thought this

  • @brianramz6681
    @brianramz6681 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    so is the thevenin current congruent to northen current?

  • @saraalabbadi333
    @saraalabbadi333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    when doing the first loop, shouldn't it be -60+10(40+i1)+40i1?

  • @oneeyedeagle549
    @oneeyedeagle549 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't we take the 20 ohn resistor for Rth? Because no current flows through it?

  • @dreamlanddon
    @dreamlanddon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice explanation

  • @Coading26110
    @Coading26110 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice video thankyou

  • @jacksondick2317
    @jacksondick2317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you, I think you've tried hard to write in an opposed way, which deserves to be respected!

  • @scottgreen3807
    @scottgreen3807 ปีที่แล้ว

    So real world use age. Let’s move on to line load impedance matching, or implementing the termination resistor, same thing remember that. Great stuff keep it up.

  • @eagleshemaikel
    @eagleshemaikel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thnx a lot .. very helpful

  • @edg6226
    @edg6226 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you record this video ?

  • @CSG1027
    @CSG1027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To find the Norton (short circuit) current, couldn't you just short A to B in the thevenin circuit, then find the current there? 80v/8ohms = 10A

  • @santoshdebakikrishna381
    @santoshdebakikrishna381 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing...

  • @cjharris7960
    @cjharris7960 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we apply node analysis..?

  • @MrTheAgge
    @MrTheAgge 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video GG

  • @maxgumm646
    @maxgumm646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the thevenin why is the secound resistor not multiplied by i1-4 ?

  • @beenishikhlaq2692
    @beenishikhlaq2692 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    best video man

  • @Red-qt3lx
    @Red-qt3lx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!!

  • @coltonniese1702
    @coltonniese1702 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    i'm still trying to figure out if he's looking at us from behind a glass wall and writing backwards on it or what. that alone is too distracting for me to pay attention to the lesson of the video....

    • @tapiwanashemakani4580
      @tapiwanashemakani4580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i know right me too

    • @gary4120
      @gary4120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Our biggest clue to what is going on is that he appears to be writing with his left hand. Since there is a ninety percent chance he is right-handed, we can assume the technology being used is flipping the original image into a mirror image, and he is in actuality writing normally, and writing with his right hand,

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too :(

    • @CyaneNile
      @CyaneNile 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a black reflective surface! Kinda like mirror...

    • @AdmiralSym
      @AdmiralSym 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It probably is backwards for the camera but it's just reversed in post

  • @suryanshtiwari9602
    @suryanshtiwari9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huge respect for being able to write all that backwards

    • @veritasiumaequitasius3530
      @veritasiumaequitasius3530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did not, lol. It's on glass and the video is simply mirrored horizontally after filming.

  • @b4kk3n
    @b4kk3n 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff! :)

  • @alvarof.a.5075
    @alvarof.a.5075 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY DO YOU CHOOSE I1 TO SOLVE FOR THE THEVENIN`S VOLTAJE?

  • @jdog231123
    @jdog231123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @hendagrion
    @hendagrion 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the 20 ohms resistor is not included tho? Shouldn't it be 20 times 4A?

  • @Jptoutant
    @Jptoutant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @YoAirFresh
    @YoAirFresh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    He's right handed. I can't believe the comments on this video, the video is simply mirrored. This is not a difficult concept.

    • @nicolaspalmeiro2766
      @nicolaspalmeiro2766 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he is very much left handed...

    • @ss-xc4gh
      @ss-xc4gh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicolas Palmeiro mirror it the other way not the way you think

    • @vikingsrus4
      @vikingsrus4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If the video was mirrored he'd have to be writing backwards right handed.

  • @tomasgonzales
    @tomasgonzales 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is i2 4A? Wouldn't the 60v source create some further current through there? Like if you follow the path of the positive charge from the voltage source it first has the option of no resistance vs 10 ohms, so at least some current should go to i2. Or do voltage sources treat current sources as open circuits?

    • @fightwithbiomechanix3006
      @fightwithbiomechanix3006 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The independent voltage source will apply the same voltage regardless of the current source. Hope that makes sense.

  • @mosesbamogia4362
    @mosesbamogia4362 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. How about the 10 ohm resistor and 40 ohm resistor?

  • @raymondghorra9597
    @raymondghorra9597 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big thanks

  • @samwheller
    @samwheller 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I think the part where you explain what happened to the 20 ohm resistor when doing your first Thevenin could have used a bit more explanation as to why you can ignore it. Really well done though. I like your idea of mirroring the image so you're not writing backwards. :-)

    • @meows_and_woof
      @meows_and_woof 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samwhell he ignores it because it’s an open circuit and no current flows there

  • @khadijahflowers9024
    @khadijahflowers9024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why isn't the current through the 40 Ohm resistor i1 + i2 and just i1? What happened to i2?

    • @natycardenasmorales
      @natycardenasmorales 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think because the i2 current was eliminated through the mesh analysis.

  • @chomaythan6633
    @chomaythan6633 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we just simply get In by diving Vn/Rn ? which is the same answer, 10 ohms

  • @asifahmed2459
    @asifahmed2459 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one❤️

  • @izzyroses242
    @izzyroses242 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir

  • @coriharber1319
    @coriharber1319 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why does i2= 4A?
    Is it because:
    Mesh currents are made for every non inclusive loop. So there would be two non inclusive loops for this circuit. Loop 1 would contain the 20 ohm and 10 ohm resistor. Loop 2 would contain the 40 ohm and 10 ohm resistor. Because Loop 1 has only resistors in series, the current around loop 1 is a constant 4 A. (**** note: the 10 ohm resistor is in both loops)
    Is my reasoning correct?

    • @UConnHKN
      @UConnHKN  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello!
      Thanks for commenting! This isn't entirely right. A loop current can be assigned to any of the smallest closed loops in the circuit. This means loop one consists of the loop with the voltage source, 10 ohm resistor, and 40 ohm resistor. Loop 2 consists of the current source, 10 ohm resistor, and the 20 ohm resistor. The current in any element is then the sum of all the loops currents that have the element in the loop. Since the current source only exists in loops 2, the current in the current source is the same as the second loop current. THis is why the second loop current is the value of the current source.
      I hope this helped!
      ~Andrew

    • @jennifercurtis4830
      @jennifercurtis4830 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because anything in series the current is the same across

  • @QualityTuTz
    @QualityTuTz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi, what if you are not given that 4A and instead just given another resistance?

    • @UConnHKN
      @UConnHKN  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      In this case you would simply find the thevenin resistance the same way, just ignore the step with the current source. if you have a more targeted question we will do our best to explain it better!
      ~Andrew

  • @officersmiles9114
    @officersmiles9114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video