Top Scholars Convert to Catholicism
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- "The conversion stories in this book are about how accomplished and intellectually gifted men and women fell in love with Christ and the Church." Dr. Francis Beckwith
Another book you should read and give to a Protestant friend.
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A friendly word to the trolls: not a single comment has (yet) been removed so if you are repeatedly making that false claim, then might I suggest you go back and review the Ten Commandments. Also a friendly reminder: the moderator reserves the right to block repeat offending trolls.
To everyone else - thank you for all the kind and encouraging words and keep up the great conversation!
@midairfortress-revert NO one is making a false claim. Is it possible YT is censoring comments? Maybe. Before you accuse Christians of lying, perhaps you should question the one's who you are deriving this income from. Have you done this?
@@francismarion6400 Trolls have regularly accused me and/or the moderator (not YT) of intentionally removing comments, and those are in fact patently false claims. Although I have neither the time nor inclination to do so, I may eventually be forced to block those commenters who repeatedly demonstrate their inability to govern their own conversation with charity and respect for others, whether they agree or disagree with the content.
@@francismarion6400 As you have surely seen there are many trolls, bots and many nonCatholics who make very uncharitable comments about Catholicism on Catholic channels like midairfortress-revert. Those expressing themselves are sacrilegious, hostile, insulting or any negative adjective we could use to describe their loathsome behavior is applicable. As a Catholic Christian I see these commentators wondering into sinfulness quite often and usually into mortal sins. Unfortunately tact and civility are so uncommon people do get blocked.
@midairfortress-revert Well I'm not a troll and I didn't accuse anyone in particular. I just stated someone was removing them. A person, an algorithm, idk, but it was the truth. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, it would be annoying. Do you not believe other powers could be involved other than me, you, and your moderator? I feel as if I deserve an apology...
@Spiritof76Catholic I didn't go searching for this channel. I clicked on a Catholic page one time months ago and so now the algorithm sends everything Catholic my way. I read some and respond to some. Others I ignore. These type things appear to stir up as much decisiveness as comradery. I sure hope one day we can find common ground, because it looks as if the entire West is falling apart before our eyes. We are about to lose a ton of freedoms.
“The absence of unity makes the search for truth more difficult” - So true. That is why I decided to read the Early Church Fathers to know what they taught, practiced and believed.
As a Law Professor and son, grandson, nephew and cousin of sincere and faithful Baptist Pastors in Portugal, I came across the writings of the Church Fathers. I was aware of their role in the building of the Western civilization. As I read and studied them I developed a deep love and attraction for the Catholic Church. I was incorporated in the Catholic Church and joined a Parish next to my home. My wife and son joined me and were also incorporated in the Catholic Church. My son plays and sings in the Choir two Masses every Sunday and is now dating a very gentle and sincere Catholic girl from our Parish who has worked as a missionary in Angola for 2 years. All this took us all by surprise and I keep it all in my heart. Next year I will start a formal 3 years theology course in our Diocese, praying for the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Wow! What a testimonial. What were some of the most influential books that you read?
❤ this brother. It's not us, but to God Almighty the glory for his glory..
How wonderful.
Amém, Jonatas! Saudações do Brasil!
I'm also a former protestant, but I was never a theologian. But I think I'm gonna study for a theology degree at some point in my life, if God permits. :)
@@catholicdoomer My suggestion is to "Seek FIRST the Kingdom of God and HIS righteousness...." What do you think HIS righteousness is?
I cannot even escribe what I feel. Halleluiah, Praise the Lord!
Another great video. I like how you explain things in clear and relateable terms. Keep the content coming because I’m learning so much and it helps all of us to explain and defend our Catholic faith.
Agreed! We need to share this channel with our Catholic friends, parishes/RCIA and inquisitive Protestants.
Very good video. The conversion story you narrated reinforced my own stand regarding the interpretation of scripture and final authority.
When looking out at the number of Protestant denominations who disagree about very important things like how you are saved and can you lose your salvation the need for an over all authority becomes obvious. Many thanks for drawing attention to this book.
For those that do not believe in ONCE saved always saved they must go outside of Paul’s epistles which is doctrine written to the church the body of Christ …. All other scripture outside of Paul’s is for Israel where they were saved by faith and practiced works
@@_ready__ Or, to put it another way ready_ ha not read all of Saint Paul's epistles and does not believe in Jesus. Don't be like @_ready__
@@BensWorkshop what is the gospel of Christ?
@@BensWorkshop Paul’s doctrine is for the church the body of Christ. You will not find the church the body of Christ referenced outside of Paul’s epistles. If you do please let me know. The church the body of Christ was first revealed unto Paul as a mystery (a secret). Grace and peace my friend
@@BensWorkshop have a great day
14:29 this was a big deal to me and when I heard myself arguing with my friends that we can’t know better than people taught by the apostles or taught by those people, I knew I wasn’t Protestant anymore 😅
Exactly! The more I read the Early Church Fathers the more I realized my denomination didn’t look or believe anything like the early church.
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When I was introduced to the earliest Fathers there was no way around it. The Church of the Apostles is the Catholic Church.
@@mrjeffjob yes and the Catholic Church claims to be the New Israel as they also say they can follow the 10 commandments for salvation. That is exactly what Israel said when Moses presented the Big 10! “We can do it”
@@mrjeffjob the 12 were ministers to who only? paul was a minister to ? Did Peter or Paul say follow me to follow Christ?
Every book you have recommended has been outstanding, of course I will get this ASAP. I now wait for your book recommendations!
the problem with non-catholic theologians is their reluctance or disobedience to the plain language of the text of matthew 16. they should be reminded that the authority given by jesus to st. peter precedes any holy tradition and precedes the new testament itself
History is their worst enemy. After their egos.
@@jperez7893 that reluctance is primarily emotional, not logical. For a devout Protestant, like I was, Catholicism is an existential threat. Accepting Catholic doctrine and practice could mean the loss of relationships - family especially - and even the loss of livelihood. Many Protestant theologians cannot even begin to look at Catholicism objectively until they admit their fear of loss and decide they will go wherever the evidence leads, because that’s where Christ is. It is huge lift for most of them to get there. It took me two years to get to the point where I admitted that I needed to become Catholic. It’s a long, emotionally agonizing journey.
@@wjtruax I received the Spirit by believing
@@TimSpangler-rd6vsif you receive the spirit by believing then you should believe the word of God that He build only one Church through His Apostle Simon Peter.
Jesus Christ did not build thousand of churches.
But Jesus Christ said to us
Mathew 10:22 "and you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved".
Mathew 12:30 - "he who is not with Me is against Me and he who does not gather with Me scatters".
Luke 10:16 - Jesus said to His Apostles "he who hears you hears Me and he who rejects you rejects Me and he who rejects Me rejects HIM who sent Me".
John 15:5 - Jesus said to His Apostles "I am the Vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing".
John 15:6 - If a man does not abide in Me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers and the branches are gathered thrown into the fire and burned".
Mark 13:5-6 - Jesus warned us "take heed that no one leads you astray. Many will come in My name, saying I am he and they will leads many astray".
Mark 13:22-23 - Jesus warned us "false christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, the elect. But take heed, I have told you all things beforehand".
Appreciate the material and always grateful. Adding another book to the list
As a former (40+ year) devout 5-sola & Calvinist Protestant who was “red-pilled” by the ancient Church, I would like to gently remind my fellow Catholics that no Protestant can reasonably even attempt to objectively process even the most basic Catholic apologetic argument until they acknowledge what I refer to as their “emotional obstacles to objectivity.”
Every devout Protestant harbors deeply-ingrained prejudices against Catholicism. Even if they are very ecumenical in their perspective, they believe that the Catholic Church is fundamentally flawed per se. Because of those prejudices, arguments for Catholic faith and practice necessarily elicit fear. That deep-seated fear is essentially, “If I become convinced of the rightness of Catholicism, my entire life would be thrown into upheaval.”It is no exaggeration to say that most devout Protestants have a true existential fear of Catholicism being proven right because of the implicit ramifications in their personal lives.
Just as “all politics are local,” so “all theology is personal.”
Yes, I totally understand that. It took years of going deep into the subject for famous protestants to realise what the TRUTH is. Another problem is their family and friends who are shocked to the core and that is difficult to undergo.
I met someone the other day and he said :" The Catholic Church is the only church attacked from all directions. That proves to me that it is the TRUE Church. " What happened to Christ during His lifetime , happens to His Church too . He promised that: " the gates of Hades will not overcome it." We trust those words and if the Church has not been destroyed in 2000 years it will never be destroyed.
His testimony on Cordial Catholic is worth listening to. Definitely is like what you just described.
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This is absolutely spot on. Thank you for this.
Simple question - do you follow the 10 commandments to attain salvation as taught by the Catholic Church? Thanks
@@_ready__ “as taught by the Catholic Church”?
What a beautiful talk WOW
Keep it on brother...
This is clear and inspiring information. Please fix the echo effect to audio, because we NEED your videos. God Bless You.
Agreed. Maybe he needs a better mic?
agreed. I appreciate the feedback. (get it? lol). Thank you for your patience and I'm working on improving the quality.
The more you dig searching for truth, the more you end up in Catholicism.
The Truth should lead straight to Jesus (The Way, The Truth, and the Life).
@@francismarion6400.... and Jesus built one Chuch only...and that is the Catholic Church....
@@sandydepiedras6372 Jesus is the ONLY WAY!
i simply can't see how anyone with integrity can come up with that!
Truth -- His Word = Truth -- John 17:17
Truth -- His Law/Ten Commands = Truth -- Psalm 119:142, 151
Ex 20:4-6, they still make and bow to statues, idols and body parts.
Ex 20:8-11, they are a day late. Bible shows the 7th day Sabbath is the Lord's day and forever will be.
it's just not possible catholicism is even to be considered Christianity.
@@francismarion6400 ..... and in reading the bible, JESUS build only a ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, APOSTOLIC CHURCH...
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Thank you!
Yep! In the end they are their own authority and how can each one claim to have the Holy Spirit which leads to all truth yet this same so called Holy Spirit is so divisive on his interpolations?
I believe that God’s grace does help them to finally come home to the truth but that’s about it.
Absolutely loving this channel and videos, thank you.
What would be the best commentary or resource that highlights all the Catholic truths throughout scripture?
The Catechism of the Catholic Church
Thank you 🙏@@NuLeif
Also try reading the Early Church fathers who describe the Church & its practice in its early years.
@@geoffjsthank you. Is there a book that you recommend?
Now do a video of the many Catholics who are converting to Holy Orthodoxy.
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Thank you.
1. The Bible is not organized as a 'How To' manual. It's more like a short story collection.
2. People need leadership to make sense of it.
3. The biggest grifters are Evangelism pastors that claim they're it, lamblasts all others, and give sermons to scare the Hell out of followers.
4. These grifters won't consider others' claims because they could lose their grift.
Sola scriptura destroys unity by taking the Word of God and turning it into the words of men. Here is a quote from Jerome that says it all: As St. Jerome put it, in his comments on the Epistle to the Galatians (speaking against the Luciferians), "Let us be persuaded that the gospel consists not in the words but in the sense. A wrong explanation turns the Word of God into the word of man, and, what is worse, into the word of the devil; for the devil himself could quote the text of Scripture; " and he did so when he tempted our Lord in the desert. (Matt. 4.6).
What is the gospel of Christ?
@@_ready__According to the authority of the Catholic Church the true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners.
@@Spiritof76Catholic how are you saved? By believing the gospel?
What is this 20 questions?
@@Spiritof76Catholic 1 only. How are you saved - by believing the gospel? Yes or no?
Question for Protestants, is IVF treatment against God's Will or not? And who decides using Bible alone Theology?
Do you obey the command to be PERFECT as the Father?
I don't think IVF is the issue. I think the issue is having unused, frozen, and fertilized eggs (embryo/fetus) that are discarded like trash. How do Catholics feel about that?
@ojhn Is throwing away embryos/fetuses, part of God's will?
Good question for Protestants as are Christian moral ethics of contraception, abortion, divorce, SSM, Transgenderism? More examples of the failure of non biblical sola Scriptura with its many “truths” is the cause of the scourge of relativism which we currently experience as wokeism.
@@francismarion6400IVF is certainly the issue as it is unnatural, contravening Natural Law as well as the disposal of fertilised eggs which is effectively abortion as is the “morning after” pill.
The people closest in time and geography believed all these “Catholic things,” yet we’re supposed to believe what is said by medieval Western Europeans?
Those medieval Europeans had more faith, humility & wisdom than us modern secularists! We’re not as smart as we like to think as we’ve watered down our morality & ethics!
Those medieval Europeans paved the foundation for Western Civilisation by developing the following
- schools & universities
- medicine & hospitals
- science & astronomy
- law system from Canon Law
- economics
- double sided accounting
- social services
- human rights
- architecture
- arts & music
etc
which in todays world, is politically incorrect to acknowledge, all covered in an excellent book by Thomas Woods
Did Peter or Paul say follow me to follow Christ?
Im thinking the correct answer is “to follow Christ”. Why do you ask???
@@srich7503 do you follow Christ via His earthly ministry? Yes or no?
@@srich7503 did Peter or Paul say follow me to follow Christ?
Can you follow both?
@@_ready__ I can!!! Are you trying to draw a false dichotomy here? Do you not follow THE “church” Jesus established???
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings.
Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
@@srich7503 “If this church no longer exists today, what good is the text that it came forth from her if she couldn’t sustain herself” 👍🏻👍🏻
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If I'm am a protestant the first question i would ask for an answer is this!? Where is the Bible comes from... Fall from heaven,,,no the Church put together the Bible after the Sacraments and traditional apostolic teachings of the One Holy Catholic Church period.
I suggest you ban the new version of Tony. He ruins, intentionally, every comment section.
I agree. Way off topic in his questions/comments and constantly repeating himself.
1 CORINTHIANS 11:18-19
For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be *divisions among you;* and I partly believe it. 19For there *must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.*
Paul states that heresies must be in order to understand those that are approved (Pastors, teachers) are made known to the Christian.
The Church (whether catholic or Protestant) is not infallible. The Apostles were not infallible:
Peter denied Jesus THREE TIMES (Matt 26:34).
Peter rejected the vision in Acts Ch. 10 TWICE, so God had to show him the vision THREE TIMES (Acts 10:13-16)
Paul grieved the Holy Spirit by disobedience:
ACTS 21:3-4 (v. 12-14)
Now when we had discovered Cyprus, we left it on the left hand, and sailed into Syria, and landed at Tyre: for there the ship was to unlade her burden. 4And *finding disciples,* we tarried there seven days: *who said to Paul through the Spirit, that he should not go up to Jerusalem.*
And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, *besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.* 13Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus. 14And when *he would not be persuaded,* we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done.
Paul disobeyed the Holy Spirit and went to Jerusalem.
IF the Apostles were NOT infallible and the early Church was not infallible WHAT was?
There are NO errors in the written word.
1 PETER 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: *but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.*
Private interpretation has nothing to do with reading the Bible for yourself.
JOHN 10:34-35
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, *and the scripture cannot be broken;*
HEBREWS 12:12-13
For the *word of God is quick,* and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, *and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.* 13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest *in his sight:* but *all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him* with whom we have to do.
QUICK, adjective [If q is a dialectical prefix, as I suppose, this word coincides with the Latin vigeo, vegeo, and vig, veg, radical, coincide with wag.] 1. Primarily, alive; living; opposed to dead or unanimated; as quick flesh. Leviticus 13:10. The Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead. 2 Timothy 4:1.
The scripture is ALIVE. It can discern your thoughts and intents. It sees ALL MEN. Can "tradition" do this? The church "fathers?"
The Church Fathers wrote the epistles and Books of the New Testament:
1. MATTHEW (Levi, son of Alphaeus, an Apostle) [Matthew]
2. JOHN MARK (accompanied Paul and Mark on their missionary journeys) [Mark]
3. LUKE (physician and disciple to Paul) [Luke and Acts]
4. JOHN (son of Zebedee, brother of James, an Apostle) [1,2,3, John, Revelation.]
5. PAUL (the LAST Apostle) [Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon and Hebrews.]
6. JAMES (son of Zebedee, brother of John, an Apostle) [James.]
7. PETER (an Apostle) [1 and 2 Peter]
8.. JUDE (Labbaeus Thaddaeus, an Apostle) [Jude.]
and the LORD Himself (9) writes the seven letters to the angels of the seven churches in Revelation.
Clement, Ignatius of Antioch, or Polycarp of Smyrna were NOT Church "fathers."
REVELATION 2:1-2
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; 2I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: *and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:*
2 TIMOTHY 3:15
*And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures,* which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
The scripture is INSPIRED, INNERANT and PRESERVED.
Heresy existed in Paul's day:
GALATIANS 1:6-8
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be *some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.* 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Here you have a false gospel.
1 Cor. 15:12-15
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, *how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?* 13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
Here you have the heresy rejecting the resurrection of the dead.
2 TIMOTHY 2:15-18
*Study* to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing *the word of truth.* *16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.* 17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is *Hymenaeus and Philetus;* 18Who concerning *the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.*
Here you have two men who were preaching heresy. How do we know they were preaching heresy? SCRIPTURE.
2 THESSALONIANS 2:1-3
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by *spirit,* nor by *word,* *nor by letter as from us,* as that the day of Christ is at hand.
*3Let no man deceive you by any means:* for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Here you have Paul warning the Thessalonians about fake letters.
2 TIMOTHY 1:15
This thou knowest, that *all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.*
At the end of Paul's ministry, the apostasy was widespread in ASIA.
These Christians were led astray by HERETICS. How? By rejecting scripture. Paul also warned of the apostasy to come from those without AND THOSE WITHIN the Church:
ACTS 20:27-31
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29For *I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.* 30Also of *your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.* 31Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
It is strange that men will use the excuse of 1001 "protestant denominations" to NOT STUDY THE BIBLE because they are spiritually lazy. They instead become Catholic because of the "majority" or the "church fathers" or because they are unwilling to read the BOOK.
What did Jesus say of the scripture?
In His earthly ministry Jesus referred to the scriptures 20 times by the phrase "IT IS WRITTEN", if not more. (Matt. 4:4, Matt. 4:7, Matt. 4:10, Matt. 21:13, Matt. 26:24, Matt. 26:31, Mark 7:6, Mark 9:12, Mark 9:13, Mark 14:21, Mark 14:27, Luke 4:4, Luke 4:8, Luke 4:10, Luke 7:27, Luke 19:46, Luke 24:46, John 6:31, John 6:45, and John 12:14) Jesus quoted scripture, never the tradition of any scribe, priest or Pharisee of His day.
Jesus wasted the Pharisees tradition.
Paul referred to the scriptures 32 times by the phrase "IT IS WRITTEN," in Acts 23:5, Rom. 1:17, Rom. 2:24, Rom. 3:4, Rom. 3:10, Rom. 4:17, Rom. 8:36, Rom. 9:13, Rom. 9:33, Rom. 10:15, Rom. 11:8, Rom. 11:26, Rom. 12:19, Rom. 14:11, Rom. 15:3, Rom. 15:9, Rom. 15:21, 1 Cor. 1:19, 1 Cor. 1:31, 1 Cor. 2:9, 1 Cor. 3:19, 1 Cor. 9:9, 1 Cor. 10:7, 1 Cor. 14:21, 1 Cor. 15:45, 2 Cor. 4:13, 2 Cor. 8:15, 2 Cor. 9:9, Gal 3:10, Gal 3:13, Gal. 4:22, and Gal 4:27. This does not include other places that Paul cites the Old Testament in his epistles.
ROMANS 3:4
God forbid: yea, *let God be true, but every man a liar;* as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
2 PETER 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: *but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.*
The scripture was written down AFTER men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. If every man is a liar because he has LIED (Romans 3:4) the EXCEPTION would be what men spake as MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST (2 PETER 1:20-21)
Where is the "Sin of presumption" in the NT Church record?
That would have to go all the way back to the nature of Christ when He established said church.
Presumption is a rash expectation of salvation without making proper use of the necessary means to obtain it & is thus a sin against hope. I know this to be true without having relevant passages to support it.
Once saved always saved is not biblical, so if one believes this, it is the sin of presumption which, I know to be true.
I found the Catholic Faith in Orthodoxy.
the bible is not in the bible
What do you follow if not the Bible? Thanks
@@_ready__ the church which is what Jesus established, which is also who compiled said Bible many years after the church begain.
@@srich7503 OK I thought you said you follow Jesus
@@_ready__ as asked above…
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings.
Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
@@srich7503 can a true church be established on false doctrine? Yes or no?
“Top Scholars”? Define “Top Scholars”?
Maybe read the book? It is a book review after all.
Use a dictionary 😊
@@litopenaranda7279 And here is what it says;
"Top Scholars are the university's most distinguished merit award recipients. They display extraordinary academic talent, exemplary character and remarkable leadership skills12."
The teacher in the class might go over knowledge and the student might excel, but that does not make one a scholar, at least in the biblical sense.
It says nothing about hermeneutics (chronology, time indicators, audience relevance, grammar, setting, originals languages of the scriptures), about discernment when reading church history, it says nothing about understanding timeline of the bible, for example the real timeline of Peter in the bible etc. This is why I stated to define it. Those who are well grounded in hermeneutics and exercises a great level of discernment of church history, do not convert to Catholicism. For example, I figured out the last day of the house of Israel (John did not live past September 22, AD73 sorry), put together the biblical timeline of Peter, and took the time to exhaustively study the Peter of the bible, and there is no way that man ever stepped foot in Rome despite the claims of "church fathers" (he was not a Roman citizen and would have violated his conscious, did not speak the languages of Rome, was to feed the house of Israel (even during their famine), and was to go through the cities of Israel until the judgment of the Son of Man, and did not have time to be an overseer/bishop and never referred to himself as one, and even withdrew from the Gentiles immediately after he preached to the Gentiles one time). There are at least 13 different authors who has been labeled as "church fathers" whose writings has been modified. Peters grave was fabricated in the 4th century, and the archaeologist claimed he was uncertain it was Peter's, yet billions today are more certain than he was, lol. Billions have been fooled.
@@soteriology400It’s just one big 2,000 year old Catholic conspiracy and you troll every Catholic channel to expose it. Why waste your time on Catholic Christians who don’t care what you think? Just reread what you wrote a sprinkle of fact and a pile of ….!
Beware, @tony1685 & @_ready_ the trolls are back!
Please add @soteriology400 to the troll list.
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