Another Reason to Reject Protestantism
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- The flow of divine authority from the Father to the Son to the Apostles to the Church was the default position until the Protestant "Reformers" rejected the authority of the Catholic Church as the Body of Christ. But from whom did the "Reformers" get their authority? They claimed from God himself, but there are serious problems with that claim.
Works referenced:
Francis de Sales, The Catholic Controversy
John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion
William A. Jurgens, ed., The Faith of the Early Fathers
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A wise woman said;
When you see all these churches springing up, being led by someone who just walked in off the street, that is a slap in the face to Jesus.
Thank you for sharing this, I grew up protestant but began to feel like something was "missing" in my walk with God. I started going to a Catholic Church in January 2024 and have never felt closer to Christ in my life.
have never felt closer to Christ in my life'
You mean Mary. Christ has very little to do with Catholicism except as an infant or hanging on the cross. It's Mary and the priest that seem to have all the salvific power.
Have you sought to understand Catholicism at all? If you haven’t and are commenting based on your own assumptions, then you my friend, have beared false witness.
@@euengelionYet, reading "The Gutenberg Martyrs" opened my eyes they are not fairy stories. Happy for you to refute if you feel the evidence is not true.
@@euengelion ''Have you sought to understand Catholicism at all?''
My sources are not Anti Catholic books and podcasts. My source is Trent and the Catechism as well as anything written on official Catholic documents. I compare them with the bible. That's why I'm still a Seventh day Adventist Protestant.
did you get Baptised?
It has to do with pride and humility.
Pride is disobedience and humility is obedience.
Thank you for sharing. Once again knocked it out of the park.
God Bless
Precisely. "Disciple" comes from discipline.
You're right
The pride of Rome led them to disobey the scriptures
@@jalapeno.tabasco Such nonsense destroys your credibility.
@@HAL9000-su1mz It alright when it is aimed at the other people. It nonsense when aimed at you. Interesting.
Again he knocked nothing out of the park this is only lies
Compelling evidence to those who refuse to accept the authority of The Church over the believes . Thank you!!!
They basically called Jesus a liar when he said, "The gates of hell shall not prevail".
As always, well done. Logical. Rational. Measured. I pray that even one non-Catholic, one atheist, one troll will listen, and ponder.
Well Said.
Thank you for the presentation. I am a protestant and your argument has brought up many questions (also a different perspective) that I will need to pray about and do further research. Thank you
We have all to come back to our churches, to the mass, to the EUCARIST ! We have to re-discover our Catholic Faith, to re-discover the SAINTS of the CHURCH and their teachings. We have to change step by step ourselves in order to be more in accordance with the GOSPEL ! Many, many christians have forgotten that our life as christians must be based on FAITH, HOPE and CHARITY/LOVE. GOD bless YOU !
''Many, many christians have forgotten that our life as christians must be based on FAITH, HOPE and CHARITY/LOVE. GOD bless YOU !''
You forgot the most important! TRUTH. Without truth, love, hope and faith have no foundation.
@@danielcristancho3524 No, No. You are wrong. Not believe me but Believe Saint-Paul : the Most important is FAITH, HOPE and LOVE. And then, if YOU have these 3, then you will gat all the virtues ! Please begin today to get FAITH, HOPE and CHARITY/LOVE. GOD bless YOU
@@adelbertleblanc1846 You are wrong. Not believe me but Believe Saint-Paul ''
No sir. If your love, hope and faith are based on a lie, you are lost and damned. First you must have God's truth, the scriptures, before you can have God's love, hope and faith.
@@danielcristancho3524 Sorry, brother, but truth is found by having faith, hope and love, not the other way around, with those three we can find our way to God who is Truth itself. Also the most important of those three is love, that's what St. Paul actually says.
God's truth is not only the Scriptures, but also the Magisterium and Holy Tradition. Denying any of these three is denying Truth itself. You couldn't even know what is true if you don't have first faith, hope and love.
God bless.
@@GranMaese ''truth is found by having faith, hope and love, not the other way around, with those three''
Every false religion claims to have love, hope and faith. Truth must come first.
God bless you & welcome home 🙏✌🙌😇
⭐ CATHOLICS! ⭐ Please consider reporting the malignant trolls who infest every Catholic video. They add nothing to the conversation with their harassment, insults and gross misinformation. Then pray for their troubled souls!
The gross misinformation you speak of, is your own Bible. Since when are costumes with funny hats, a legitimate part of a humble religion? Where is the biblical authority for a trinity or man made Lord's day? Obviously, graven imagery, and trinkets the status quo? The source of misinformation is the catholic church.
But where is the fun it that? 🙏😄
They actually do add an ingredient to the conversation. I had to think upon your response for some time and it hit me while I was mowing my lawn and I was thirsty so I came in to respond and have an ice cold Monster 😁 The Prots have been masquerading around for 500 years as if they were under some mandate to Prot. And, had they remained our “Brothers and Sisters” I might even agree with them in some constrained way. Be it that they chose disobedience and men’s doctrines and misuse of “our” Christian Scriptures which we have to suffer with pretty much everyday in some fashion or the other in most places we go it has become to our benefit that they “share” their Prot-Bot stuff with us. We learn so much about the actual truth Jesus left for us while we give them the benefit of the doubt for a bit and actually look into their claims. In looking we find … (where have I heard that before?)… and when we find we become better. It would be novel though if some of what they claim we could learn is true. A huge percentage of it is not true. Like faith alone doctrine; in James it literally teaches us it is “not by faith alone” that we are saved. In fact, that is the only place “faith” is used with the word “alone”… …it is preceded by the word “not”. Then a short time later I read that the letter of James was considered by Martin Luther as a prospect for removing it from the Sacred Scriptures. It is a non-stop fiasco, a cacophony of selfish error, the whole Prot backslide. Then we have the Sola Scriptura debacle. When the “Scriptures” were being written there was no such thing among the Apostles nor an intention for that by the Church. The Church fathers thought of The Church as fluid as it aligns with the teachings of the Apostles. Sola Scriptura is like having a coin with only one side; that can only be two things, a mis-mint or a counterfeit. And we see the truth of that in the absentee teaching authority of the 1000’s of Prot denominations. They have more doctrines and dogmas collectively than all of the other religions combined. I just know that is not the way Jesus intended for us to be and i literally learned that from these people both in the world and their responses here in TH-cam. I want them to troll and chime in. It has been said each one reach one reach one teach one. Let us be the teachers, Brother!
@MrDoyle07 Small problem. You went off the rails early, with the statement, about disobedience and men's doctrine. Those 1000's of denominations have embraced the heresies of catholicism, by the disobedience, and doctrine of catholicism, a man made doctrine.
On top of that, by embracing a church, you embrace pedophilia, the ratlines, constant drama at the Vatican, an activist, leftist pope, and the most hideous of all, costumes with funny hats, trinkets, and graven imagery, all to feign legitimacy, bless your mortal heart. It's not our fault catholicism canonized it's own demise by Revelation 22:19.
Voices in the wilderness are not trolls.
@@MrDoyle07 Fair enough, but some are trans-psychopaths who identify as Christian. The DNA of their words says otherwise.
How refreshing to hear you entertain all options on where the “Authority” possibly came from - doing it with an open mind - without bias or prejudice- trying to source the truth or falsehood involved.
Thank you, this is exactly how I see it. Yes a lot was going wrong in the Catholic church, but who gave Luther, Calvin etc. the authority to create new churches and become schismatic? Why trust these guys from the 16th century when Christ promised to protect His Church and prayed for us to be one?
The Catholic Church gave them the autholity!
@@NolongeraslaveA n unsubstantiated claim with no historical evidence.
Doesn’t the Scriptures say to contest for the faith so that there is no confusion? That we are to be in one faith, unity. Protesting against the Church and then leaving it is wrong and unauthorized. Setting up shop perse is another form of the heresies that the Church has been fighting and defeating since the early days.
The author of this division is Satan. Who relishes in the fact that argumentative moments in history have even
resulted in open war between Denominations.
We need to be under one faith and I pray this happens because the secular world with demonic values, is looking to devour the current fractured Church.
Christ has established the Church. Carried on by the Apostolic Fathers and passed down through succession to the Popes who, with a valid point of primacy in relation to the other Bishoprics, continues to stand against the gates of Hell.
@@genetaylor7713 Really? It's in history that the Church kicked the Reformers out the Church and excommunicated them! In fact, it was God who decided everything in my humble opinion. That Monk guy Luther just wanted to debate the theses. It was not for the purposes of spriting. Not at all. It was the modern printing press that and enterprising publishers who copied and began to print his 95 theses all over Europe! The kings and princes were already discontented and had become a mouthpieces to criticize the Church. It's only Rome's servants who do not realise that the sale of Indulgences had gone way far beyond bingo games or even Girl Scout cookies as a means of raising funds for Holy mother Church which was anything but holy at the time. But they know this history anyway, but look the other way.
Well at least the Reformers need places of worship! If the human Vicar of Christ renounces them, there is a higher Vicar of Christ, the Holy Spirit who protected them from the inquistors. Not even the most powerful Rome could extinguish the fire God started.
@@genetaylor7713 The same authority that gave the Latin Church becoming schismatics themselves ~ from the Greek Church. Talk about a pot calling a kettle black.!
This is the first video I watch of yours, and I have to say, fantastic job! You got yourself a new subscriber!
Amen! Thank you for sharing your understanding and humility of how the reformers got it so wrong!!!!
They were fooled by the father of lies (John 8:44) and followed him on their own free will.
understanding and humility of how the reformers got it so wrong!!!!''
Really? So, you think it's right to sell indulgences for cold hard cash so that souls can be released from a supposed purgatory? You think it's good that the Pope supports this? Pay to be saved? That's what started the Reformation. I don't think the Reformers had it all wrong.
@@hyeminkwun9523Would you care to back that up with evidence. Here is some of my proof "The Gutenberg Martyrs" Happy for you to refute it.
As the moderated get involved preventing the non-Catholics from FREE flow with their rebuttal against our friend's claims. We can see where the devil is working.
Maybe it will be helpful for him to share what was happening prior the Reformation. There, no apologist want to go. Too embarrassing to recall the abuse of autholity the Church was excersing and the blood she was shedding if anyone dared to oppose the false teachings of the Church.
God decided He had enough.
@@Nolongeraslave Our Lord was falsely accused by His enemies, many times. It is the same. Those rebelling against the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church, whose Head is Our Lord Himself, falsely accused Her to justify what they were doing and to lead gullible people away from their salvation for their master.
Thank you for articulating this!!! Welcome back home :) the Church grows dear brother!
@midairfortress @Gerard thanks for these great videos your making for us thanks for sharing your studies with us please continue. Your brother Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
I never understood why the "Protesters" did not just switch to the Orthodox Church if they thought Rome was corrupted. This just shows how they were seeking power and not Christ.
Because the Orthodox are heretical... Protestants share a vast majority of doctrine with papists, they simply fixed the corruption and errors
They did attempt it, but they disagree theologically on some parts of scripture and so just became protestant after that.
@jerry : very relevant comment. Thank You.
Well said
Where is Apostalic succession Biblical?
Imagine if I tell my wife that I plan to "reform" our marriage by divorcing her.
Ok let's roll with that. Imagine you found out that your wife has syphilis. Yup, that little bugger that your fake apostle successors, Alexander VI, Julius II and Leo X had. And you give that woman a chance. But instead she kicks you out of your house. Yeah... you pretty much gonna divorce her.
Imagine if your wife was going to burn you alive for disagreeing with her, and that she'd already done it to other men. 🤷♂
@@toddthacker8258 Sounds pretty serious. Have you tried counseling?
Wow. What a profoundly illustrated analogy. Sure wish I had thought of that 🤔😁
@@toddthacker8258well, yeah, they took heresy and patent infringement (so to speak) a bitvseriously in the old days. But, on the other hand look what happened since they stopped burning the heretics… 30,000 “churches” and 100,000,000 million little popes all doing their own things and even more lost in the resulting utter confusion.
I am so grateful that you came up with the theme of authority which i am teaching today to my CRE students
Well said. Keep up the great videos!
Thank you for the prayer at the end. Amen
Truth! Given from above.
I pray all Protestants would humble themselves like you did and recognize the error they are in. Amen
Hey, Protestant here, I am on my way to hell, I suppose. Can you give me the gospel the Apostles preach by which we are saved? What's exactly the gospel you preach?
Too much pride they refuse to see
@@paulcapaccio9905 But I want to know the gospel that saves! Do you have it? Isn't that what makes us Christians?
@@Nolongeraslave
St John 5:39-40
You search* the scriptures, because you think you have eternal life through them; even they testify on my behalf.c
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But you do not want to come to me to have life.
(Your hearts are burning within you for scripture but you do not want to come to the Son to have life.)
St John 6:27-63
Do not work for food that perishes but for the food that endures for eternal life,* which the Son of Man will give you. For on him the Father, God, has set his seal.”
So they said to him, “What can we do to accomplish the works of God?”
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Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in the one he sent.”
For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
So they said to him, “What sign can you do, that we may see and believe in you?
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.q
But I told you that although you have seen [me], you do not believe.r
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Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me,
For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him [on] the last day.”
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day.
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It is written in the prophets:
‘They shall all be taught by God.’
Everyone who listens to my Father and learns from him comes to me.x
Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
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I am the bread of life.
Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
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I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.
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Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
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For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
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Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?*
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But there are some of you who do not believe.”
And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”
St John 15:3-14
You are already pruned because of the word that I spoke to you.b
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Remain in me, as I remain in you. Just as a branch cannot bear fruit on its own unless it remains on the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in me.
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I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit, because without me you can do nothing.
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* c Anyone who does not remain in me will be thrown out like a branch and wither; people will gather them and throw them into a fire and they will be burned.
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If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you.d
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By this is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit and become my disciples.e
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As the Father loves me, so I also love you. Remain in my love.f
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If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.g
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“I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and your joy may be complete.h
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This is my commandment: love one another as I love you.i
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* No one has greater love than this,j to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
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You are my friends if you do what I command you.
St John 16:28-30
I came from the Father and have come into the world. Now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.”p
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His disciples said, “Now you are talking plainly, and not in any figure of speech.
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Now we realize that you know everything and that you do not need to have anyone question you. Because of this we believe that you came from God.”*
1 John 2:3-6
The way we may be sure* that we know him is to keep his commandments.c
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Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him.d
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But whoever keeps his word, the love of God is truly perfected in him. This is the way we may know that we are in union with him:e
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whoever claims to abide in him ought to live [just] as he lived.
1 St John 4:7-21
Beloved, let us love one another, because love is of God; everyone who loves is begotten by God and knows God.
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Whoever is without love does not know God, for God is love.
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In this way the love of God was revealed to us: God sent his only Son into the world so that we might have life through him.f
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In this is love: not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as expiation for our sins.g
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Beloved, if God so loved us, we also must love one another.
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No one has ever seen God. Yet, if we love one another, God remains in us, and his love is brought to perfection in us.h
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* This is how we know that we remain in him and he in us, that he has given us of his Spirit.
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Moreover, we have seen and testify that the Father sent his Son as savior of the world.
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Whoever acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God remains in him and he in God.
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We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for us.
God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him.
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In this is love brought to perfection among us, that we have confidence on the day of judgment because as he is, so are we in this world.i
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There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear because fear has to do with punishment, and so one who fears is not yet perfect in love.
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We love because he first loved us.
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If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar; for whoever does not love a brother whom he has seen cannot love God* whom he has not seen.j
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This is the commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother.k
St Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,* but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.n
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Many will say to me on that day,o ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’p
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Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you.* Depart from me, you evildoers.’q
1 St John 3:19-24
Now] this is how we shall know that we* belong to the truth and reassure our hearts before him
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in whatever our hearts condemn, for God is greater than our hearts and knows everything.
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Beloved, if [our] hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence in God
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and receive from him whatever we ask, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.n
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And his commandment is this: we should believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another just as he commanded us.o
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Those who keep his commandments remain in him, and he in them, and the way we know that he remains in us is from the Spirit that he gave us.p
1 St John 1:1
What was from the beginning,
what we have heard,
what we have seen with our eyes,
what we looked upon
and touched with our hands
concerns the Word of life-a
St Luke 24:27-35
Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them what referred to him in all the scriptures.p
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As they approached the village to which they were going, he gave the impression that he was going on farther.
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But they urged him, “Stay with us, for it is nearly evening and the day is almost over.” So he went in to stay with them.
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And it happened that, while he was with them at table, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them.
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With that their eyes were opened and they recognized him, but he vanished from their sight.
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Then they said to each other, “Were not our hearts burning [within us] while he spoke to us on the way and opened the scriptures to us?”
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So they set out at once and returned to Jerusalem where they found gathered together the eleven and those with them
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who were saying, “The Lord has truly been raised and has appeared to Simon!”q
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Then the two recounted what had taken place on the way and how he was made known to them in the breaking of the bread.
St Mark 14:22-24
While they were eating,f he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is my body.”
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Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
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He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed* for many.
St John 6:63
It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh* is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
St Luke 24:39
Look at my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me and see, because a ghost does not have flesh and bones as you can see I have.”
And [behold] I am sending the promise of my Father* upon you;
Then he led them [out] as far as Bethany, raised his hands, and blessed them.
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As he blessed them he parted from them and was taken up to heaven.
( For we are not only fed by the word of God but that the word of God is who we feast on.
We take his word for it.)
@@Nolongeraslave St John 21:15-17
When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter,* “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?”* He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.”
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He then said to him a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.”
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He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” [Jesus] said to him, “Feed my sheep.i
(Notice that Jesus told Peter to feed his sheep twice. This refers to scripture feeding and feeding of his body or word incarnated in the Eucharist.
Tending has to do with preaching or homilies or sermons.)
( and Jesus said it in the order of the Mass. feed my lambs, we read scripture.
Tend my sheep, the Priest gives his homily.
Feed my sheep, then we partake in holy communion which is the body and blood of Jesus Christ.)
This is a wonderful lesson in Church history. Thank you for your in-depth research.
Very interesting perspective. When I came back to the Catholic church, I started to study a bit of history on protestant churches. I quickly realized that they all had something in common. ALL of them were started by men who divided from other churches who divided from other churches, etc. I thought, who told them they could do that? Where is that in the bible? You, sir, have made it clearer. Thanks for making this video. God bless.
'' I thought, who told them they could do that? Where is that in the bible?''
I don't know. The Christian faith came from leaving the Jewish faith. Was that a mistake? You yourself came from a Protestant church. If a church is in apostasy, which the Roman church is, are we obligated to stay there? Hasn't the command been given to come out of Babylon?
If I’m not mistaken, Jesus transformed Judaism into Christianity. The Jews who followed Jesus during and after his death didn’t leave Judaism they converted. Christianity is the fulfillment and continuation of Judaism. Jesus also established a church. One, not many. There are many, and they didn’t just sprout out of nothing, they were created out of divisions. For there to be a division there had to be an original whole. The Catholic church is and claims to be that whole. Show me which Protestant church makes a similar claim. They can’t. Why? Well as this video just explained, They don’t have the God given authority to do so. Hence my questions. All they can do is accuse and protest the Catholic as apostates as you just did. By the way, when and how did the Catholic church apostasies?
@@alopez78 ''Jesus transformed Judaism into Christianity. ''
I would not say that. Its not like Judaism was some foreign, bizarre religion compared to Christianity. Christ FULFILLED THE SHADOWS OF SANCTUARY SERVICE in Judaism. He was the substance and the center of the ceremonies of the Sanctuary of old. As the Lamb of God, He gave his life for the sins of the world, something the meaning of the entire Sanctuary service foresaw.
@@alopez78 ''The Catholic church is and claims to be that whole. Show me which Protestant church makes a similar claim''
You are correct. The Roman church is described as the Mother of Harlots in Revelation.
''They don’t have the God given authority to do so.''
No church or human has EVER been given the authority to change the Ten Commandments. The Roman church is the only church in the history of the world that has dared to change the Law of God. That alone makes it an Apostate church.
@@alopez78 ''By the way, when and how did the Catholic church apostasies?''
Any doctrine that cannot be found in scripture, is a man-made commandment. Lots of those in the Roman church. The heresies began as soon as John, the last Apostle, was buried. Paul described them as wolves in sheep's clothing bringing in damnable doctrines.
Thank you for your apologetics!
Mother Church is so happy to have her son back home with her other children!
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Thanks for sharing it was very helpful
Spot on! Amen! You really need to respond to Gavin Ortlunds latest video defending the Reformation not as a schism.
I have been contemplating on your opening statement in this for some years now. That fact makes the Prot protestation that the Church failed is a claim that Jesus failed/lied/misrepresented when He said the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church. That is a very bad Prot do and it actually took me back to the Catholic Church. I could no longer dismiss that issue as viable. Jesus cannot fail.
Jesus cannot fail, men can! The Church is just sons of men and they have been failing since the beginning of the age. You should start by reflecting on your own failures. If you are honest, you will admit that whenever you sin, you fail God. You guys have been brainwashed into thinking those kings and lords in your kingdom aka Church cannot get it wrong ~ putting your Church in God's position ~ something to be pitied.
Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against the church (as the body of believers). Protestants agree with this. We do not agree that Jesus was talking about a particular institution, or saying that a particular institution could never be wrong. 🤷♂
@@toddthacker8258 At the time prior to Luther revolting, Luther believed he was part of the true Church and that every other schismatic church such as the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox was outside the true body of believers. This means that the only true Church at the time of Luther was the Catholic Church that Luther was a part of.
You are whitewashing and re-writing history to suit your narrative.
@@alisterrebelo9013 Not sure what Luther has to do with what I said?
Besides, A) I'm not a Lutheran; and B) even Lutherans don't hold Luther out to be infallible.
And obviously that is what Luther was taught. And he initially didn't want to form his own church, just reform the RCC.
@@toddthacker8258 Asking what Luther has to do with the Protestant movement is like asking what Galileo has to do with astronomy.
You completely missed my rebuttal to your objection. So let's try this a different way.
Your objection is that, in Matthew 16:18, the word 'church' is not the Catholic Church, but rather the 'body of believers'. Is this a fair summary of your objection?
Recent convert myself, this was a great talk on the subject of authority of the Church.
Keep spreading the truth, keep reposting this video for all time.
Do you have a book? Giving these details I would like to have one.
Thanks again.
Good work!
Very very good presentation. 👍
It annoys me when Protestants say " a Priest cannot forgive your sins". They say the Bible alone is all the authority they need. Well why do they ignore certain Scriptures ? Christ gave his apostles and their successors the authority to forgive sins in his name : "Whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Whose sins you retain, they are retained" This is Scriptural. They tell Catholics everything they are doing, is not in the Bible. Maybe they should get their act together before attacking Catholicism.
Again the disciples argued who amongst them are the greatest, jesus washed their feet,does that mean Jesus is their humble servant under their authority. You can twist any scripture to suit long held traditions,but his humility is beyond any heirachial authority. John the baptist was amazed jesus asked him to baptise him!!! Was it because he was in need of repentance??? Again his humility was above John's authority as a prophet of the new covenent.
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Then Jesus' words to the Apostles are rendered meaningless. Just as His and St. Paul's extensive comments on the Holy Eycharist are renedered meaningless by the Protestant stance on these matters.
In this case he grants explicit authority to His Apostles to do certain things, which protestants just airily dismiss by saying something like "well that no longer applied once they died".
Where's that in the Bible??
The "Reformation" was a horrible tragedy and a civilizational catastrope.
@@andrewrolwes6034 meaningless to our modern minds. I don't believe you and others who respond so sharply that you don't have problems with the bible. You just reactionary to a church you convinced is without spot or wrinkle as a virgin bride. If you think your church has all the answers, then you be blinded by their own infallibility.
(2 Corinthians 2:10) Paul forgave sins IN THE PERSON of Christ. He had a ministry of RECONCILIATION, "as if the Lord is making His appeal THROUGH US." (2 Corinthians 5:20) This he taught and wrote to practicing Christians.
@@frederickanderson1860 Twisted perspective. Why do you REVERSE what God has revealed?
I have been studying the Church as the Bride of Christ recently, you have cleared up some of the fog I encountered. I was wondering, do Protestants acknowledge any church as the bride of Christ?
That is great, brother. That is exactly how all Catholics should start their clarifications with all the Biblical verses as pack up evidence to refute these protestants. These protestants are claiming this, and that twisting the Bible verses when they respond to the authority issue. To summarize, we tell them the truth that " The authority of God is vested in the Catholic Church, and it is exercising that authority since St Peter and the apostles to this very day via Apostolic succession full stop. All the small groups now on earth calling themselves churches are fake and break away small pieces of dissenters who do not have any more communion with the Catholic Church and are anathema. So there is no priesthood with them,m ss well and the bread or cookies and cokes or sprite are not the body and blood of Christ for only an ordained priest in the Catholic Church can consecrate the Eucharist. There are many, many more facts, but that's all for this time. ....
@grandpahand7410, from what I have gathered from protestants, they say that the church consists of all believers. I don't know if you can extrapolate from that whether they think all believers make up the bride of Christ because I have never heard them talk about the bride of Christ.
There is a strong case for the Anglo-Catholics and their validity. They do have proven Apostolic succession under the Anglican Province of America (NOT the Episcopal). @@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964
No..they are not
..because they don't have the eucharist...the mass....it should have all that...but they have is a sermon...thats not what it is in the early church...
The first Sermon was Matthew 5. After Jesus ascended to Heaven, the disciples began meeting on the "Way" to the Temple. They eventually spread out from there. They usually met fellow believers in homes. This is how some Evangelicals experience Christ's Church. There's the entire Church body, National Churches, and Regional churches, home churches. Rome is a National Church.
Authority was the dividing sword that showed me the Truth as well, it's either divinely revealed or DIY with the Bible
And Christ absolutely did not expect anyone to figure it out themselves, he expected you to follow his apostles and their successors.
This is great. You are a excellent speaker and made the ideas and quotes very clean and in context. I am currently a protestant but I have been considering conversion to a apostolic church either the Orthodox or the Catholic Church and you have definitely nudged me towards Catholicism.
Thank you for the kind words! I would encourage you to consider watching my videos on the top 5 books that helped me to overcome my own objections to Catholicism. You definitely sound like someone who is willing to do some reading. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help you on your journey!
What are your “obstacles”? Have you watched his interview about his reversion/conversion? They are linked on the show notes page. Definitely worth watching as they are both interesting and thought provoking.
Those who wrote the Books of the GOSPEL are the same ones who founded the HOLY CHURCH (Saint John, Saint Luke, Saint Paul, Saint Peter, Saint James etc.). To me, it s logical if I believe their writings to believe also their Church.
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The way u said it is absolutely mind blowing to me. Ive gotta good defense for our tru church but u just said such truth in a poetic way that I will now speak in these terms. Bravo my friend, u speak with the Holy Spirit. Our world is showing satan now more than ever and I pray for the conversion of sinners and for them to come back to our Holy Mothe churchr even the Orthodoxy...
you know i am no expert on any of this, what i do know is that all of us who are Christians better stop fighting with one another, our numbers seem to be falling and islam growing, maybe we should worry about that right now. God bless you.
The Truth is most important but nice try.
Wow. Really impressed by these arguments. I'm definitely going to have to read Francis de Sales.
The book Catholic Controversy is excellent. The host (Midairfortress) has a video about the book.
@@NuLeif I was looking on Amazon yesterday after watching the video and I spotted that one; I've got it on my wish list so I can come back to it when I'm ready for it.
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Thank you so very much for this. I now have a better understanding of our Mother Church. God bless.
As catholic, to me, the Bible is not the goal in itself. Some think knowing Jesus Christ is knowing as many possible verses of the Bible. Don't fall into this trap! be aware : many SAINTS have found Jesus with very little “biblical” knowledge. For a Christian it is not the quantity of knowledge that prevails but first of all HUMILITY and LOVE/CHARITY.
Jesus! No absolute need for a bible if you possess Jesus in the Holy Eucharist!
Great video! Highlighting that authority is always something that is explicitly *given* to those who are able to wield it and attaching that to Christ’s sending of the Apostles reminds me of Romans 10 “how will they preach unless they are sent?” This indicates that those who exercise the call to preach must have a valid “sending” from those who have the power to impart authority. That’s the basics of apostolic succession laid out in the scriptures!
This was interesting. The true history of the Christian Church is extremely important. I may not agree with all that you said but it is truly time for all Christians to look into the true history of their faith.
As a former protestant (pentecostal), I must say, "If today you hear His voice, harden not your heart." Thus says the Lord.
Worth pointing out Jesus still shows that His Church is indeed His Church by showering it with miracles of all sorts which are not explainable by science. The Holy Spirit still guides The Catholic Church.
Good point but Protestants, generally reject Eucharistic miracles that science can’t explain with the same AB blood type & living heart tissue, I suspect because they avoid investigating!
Likewise with Marian apparitions such as Fatima, Akita, Lourdes, Garabandal, La Salette etc
One of the best chanels out there. You speak with such clarity.
Thank you
Protestants didn’t want a new church. They wanted to reform the mess the Catholic Church has made. It is really sad that you put Luther and Calvin along Joseph Smith. The former advocate for the priesthood of all believers, the latter (no pun intended) advocates for a centralized system of authority just as Rome does. I love my Catholic brothers but sometimes misrepresenting the other side (even if it is unintentionally) hurts more than it helps the conversation.
Agreed Joseph Smith Junior should not be grouped with Luther et al. But not for the reasons listed. Smith was *_Restoration_* not Catholic or Orthodox or Protestant.
Luther declared that anyone who did not follow his new theology would go to hell.
Everyone grants that at the beginning, the mission was reform. That pretty quickly faded into the establishment of new churches. There were 100s of true reformers before, during, and after Luther and Calvin, who did not seek to establish a new creed or church, but truly helped bring reform to the true Church. Thanks for watching and commenting - I really appreciate it.
@@rconger24 Protestants are Restorationists.
Calvin was actually pretty autocratic and established a reign of terror. He set up a network of spies with dire punishments for people who offended him personally.
Thanks for sharing ,
This is true and well explained .
The only ones with AUTHORITY were the original bible writers and the Apostles. They set the foundation for God's church and any church that strays from that foundation, the Holy Scriptures, has no business calling itself a Christian church. One does not need authority to condemn the commandments of men. The Apostle Paul states that the Word of God is fit for instruction, for rebuke, for correction, for instruction in righteousness and he never mentions one needs the permission of some prelate to do so. The Roman church has dared to think it can change the law of God and to put traditions over the commandments of God, which Christ stated was 'vain worship'. Luther had a right to call them out.
Where does the BIBLE say that? Where does Christ say that? Waiting...............................
@@HAL9000-su1mz Where does the BIBLE say that''
Not sure which one you're talking about, the authority of the bible writers and Apostles or where the bible is said to be fit for instruction, rebuke, correction etc., so I'll do both.
''And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone...'' Eph 2:20. This one is for authority.
2 Tim 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…" This is the describing the power and completeness of the bible.
His One True Church is the pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Tim 3:15
@@geoffjs danielcristancho3524 seems to have replaced the pope. And very poorly, I might add.
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Who told you the Pope is a real office in God's church? Do you have a text? Who told you Christ included 'successors' when He spoke to Peter in Mat 16? I've yet to read the words 'and your successors' in that whole verse. I think I would have made a better Pope than the ones that came before. The Papacy is a disgrace and in its history of immorality, greed, political intrigue, debauchery and murder. What a gallery of Rogues.
Great video again gonna post these on my fb
As a protestant I submit to Jesus and the authority of His Apostles. Apostolic authority is everywhere where the Apostles are obeyed. The belief that the Apostolic authority is transmitted by institutional decree is nowhere in the bible. Popes, cardinals etc disobey and thus remove themselves from Apostolic authority. To keep their 'authority' they declare themselves 'Apostles', and thus can add to the faith (and thus remove from it) despite being (by biblical Apostolic authority) disqualified from exercising authority. It is crazy!
From a Catholic theological perspective, the belief that Apostolic authority is transmitted by institutional decree is indeed supported by Scripture. In Matthew 16:18-19, Jesus tells Peter, "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." This passage is interpreted as Jesus establishing Peter as the leader of the Church, with a unique authority that would be passed on. Moreover, in Acts 1:20-26, we see an example of Apostolic Succession when the Apostles select Matthias to replace Judas. They pray and cast lots to choose a new member, demonstrating that the authority could be transferred. Additionally, in 2 Timothy 2:2, Paul instructs Timothy, "And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others." This shows a model of passing on teachings and authority to subsequent leaders.
The Catholic Church believes it is the continuation of the community established by Jesus and the Apostles, led by the bishops in communion with the Pope, who carry the teaching authority (Magisterium) of the Church. In John 20:21-23, Jesus says to the Apostles, "As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." And with that, he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven," conferring spiritual authority on the Apostles and their successors. Furthermore, in 1 Timothy 3:15, Paul refers to the Church as "the pillar and foundation of the truth," implying that the Church has a unique role in preserving and proclaiming the truth of the faith.
The roles of the Pope, cardinals, and bishops are seen as a continuation of the leadership established by the Apostles. The Pope, as the Bishop of Rome, is considered the successor of Peter, while the cardinals and bishops are seen as successors of the Apostles, entrusted with teaching, sanctifying, and governing the Church. In Matthew 28:19-20, Jesus commands the Apostles to "make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." This Great Commission includes the authority to teach and govern. Therefore, the belief that Apostolic authority is transmitted through institutional decree is supported by Scripture and early Church practices. The selection of Matthias and the instructions to Timothy indicate a succession of authority. The Catholic Church distinguishes between the personal failings of its leaders and the divine authority vested in their offices. Additionally, the Catholic Church asserts that it has the authority to develop and clarify doctrine, guided by the Holy Spirit. This authority is seen as rooted in the promises and commands of Jesus to the Apostles. Thus, from a Catholic viewpoint, Apostolic authority is divinely instituted, passed down through succession, and maintained by the Church's Magisterium, irrespective of individual failings.
@@JB91484 Thank you for your reply.
"This passage is interpreted as Jesus establishing Peter as the leader of the Church, with a unique authority that would be passed on." The issue is, is that interpretation conditioned by need to establish the RCC or is it obvious from the text? As such it is an assumption - and the Church is not founded on assumptions.
Another more credible interpretation is this ( I quote from a source to save time!) "The word for “Peter,” Petros, means “a small stone” (John 1:42). Jesus used a play on words here with petra (“on this rock”) which means “a foundation boulder,” as in Matthew 7:24, 25 when He described the rock upon which the wise man builds his house. Peter himself uses the same imagery in his first epistle: the church is built of numerous small petros, “living stones,” (1 Peter 2:5) who, like Peter, confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and those confessions of faith are the bedrock of the church."
Yes authority (as in the case of Matthias) can be transferred but that does not establish the RCC. When a Pastor resigns and another is appointed there is a transference of authority but that example cannot conceivably be used to establish the RCC. Transference of authority is not disputed. What sort of transference and the conditions of transference - spiritual or institutional, is the issue.
The 2 Tim. quote again requires a great leap of imagination to assume it establishes the type of apostolic authority the RCC claims.
So assumption follows assumption - and there is nothing definitive. The Church, according to Jesus has to be founded on His Words, and the RCC doesn't have those words. That is why it has been so successfully opposed by those that take scripture as definitive.
The John 20 quote says nothing of the RCC. It is an assumption, a huge assumption to maintain it. The 'you' being sent are disciples and those moved by the Holy Spirit. I have received the Holy Spirit, have been led by the Holy Spirit, filled with the Holy Spirit, gifted by the Holy Spirit, changed by the Holy Spirit , as have millions and millions of others, with no Pope, Cardinal, RCC priest involved. Jesus will not go against His Word and so His word is to disciples not Popes etc. The Holy Spirit has demonstrated this.
"The Pope, as the Bishop of Rome, is considered the successor of Peter, while the cardinals and bishops are seen as successors of the Apostles, " Yes but that is the assumption of the RCC. It remains an assumption. However if it was true then Protestants and there are millions of us would be fake believers, unsaved, unannointed, unforgiven, etc. The fact that they are saved etc shows that the Holy Spirit doesn't run the Kingdom by the RC belief - and therefore that belief has to be false.
The problem RCism has starts with the bible and the attempt to build an eclessiastical edifice on verses that are unrelated to the declared final product. The church is founded on the explicit teachings of the Apostles and Prophets, not on assumptions and forced interpretations. God bless you.
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From a Catholic theological perspective, the interpretation that Jesus established Peter as the leader of the Church, with a unique authority that would be passed on, is not merely an assumption conditioned by the need to establish the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). It is derived from a holistic understanding of the scriptural context and the historical continuity of the Church's teaching. Let's address each point in detail.
Firstly, the interpretation of Matthew 16:18-19, where Jesus says to Peter, "You are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church," is seen as Jesus giving Peter a unique foundational role. The wordplay between "Petros" (small stone) and "petra" (large rock) is understood by Catholics as indicating that Peter himself is the rock on which Jesus builds His Church, given his role as the first among the Apostles. While there are other interpretations, the Catholic view is supported by early Church Fathers and the consistent teaching of the Church. Additionally, the promise to give Peter the "keys of the kingdom of heaven" and the authority to "bind and loose" is seen as conferring a specific leadership role, which Catholics believe is passed on through his successors, the Bishops of Rome (Popes).
The selection of Matthias in Acts 1:20-26 to replace Judas is indeed an example of Apostolic Succession. This event illustrates the early Church's understanding that apostolic ministry and authority were to continue through successors. This process was not just a simple transference of a pastoral role but a continuation of the apostolic mission and authority, which Catholics believe is institutional and sacramental.
Regarding 2 Timothy 2:2, where Paul instructs Timothy to entrust his teachings to reliable people who will also teach others, the Catholic interpretation sees this as an early reference to the continuation of apostolic teaching authority. This passage, along with others, forms part of the scriptural foundation for the Church's understanding of apostolic succession and the authority vested in the bishops as the successors of the Apostles.
In John 20:21-23, Jesus breathes on the Apostles and says, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." Catholics interpret this as Jesus giving the Apostles the authority to forgive sins, which is seen as part of the sacramental authority passed down through apostolic succession. While the passage does not mention the RCC explicitly, it supports the Catholic understanding of the sacramental authority given to the Apostles and their successors.
The Catholic Church does not see its teachings as based on assumptions but on the continuity of the apostolic tradition and the authoritative interpretation of Scripture. The belief in the Pope as the successor of Peter and the bishops as successors of the Apostles is rooted in the historical practice and the writings of the early Church Fathers. This understanding has been consistently taught and upheld throughout the history of the Church.
The effectiveness of the Holy Spirit in the lives of Protestants does not negate the Catholic belief in apostolic succession or the authority of the Church. Catholics acknowledge that the Holy Spirit works beyond visible boundaries and that many Christians outside the Catholic Church are genuinely led by the Spirit. However, Catholics believe that the fullness of the means of salvation subsists within the Catholic Church, which includes the sacraments and apostolic authority.
The Church, according to Catholic teaching, is indeed founded on the explicit teachings of Jesus and the Apostles. The interpretation of these teachings, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, has led to the development of the Church's doctrines and structure. The Catholic Church views its authority as divinely instituted, based on the words and actions of Jesus and the Apostles, and upheld through apostolic succession and the magisterial teaching authority.
In summary, the Catholic Church's understanding of apostolic authority and succession is deeply rooted in Scripture, tradition, and the continuous teaching of the Church. It is not based on assumptions but on a comprehensive interpretation of biblical texts and the historical practices of the early Christian community.
@@JB91484 Thank you for your reply. I notice the repetition of 'the Catholic interpretation'. Interpretation is necessary when the text is not explicit. Thus assumption rules the narrative. Sometimes interpretation is warranted because it is very clear what was meant and does no violence to other texts, but with the RC that isn't the case. The Church is founded on the teaching of the Apostles and Prophets, not on assumptions about what they preached. 'Do not go beyond what is written' says Paul in 1 Cors. 4:6. Yet the RCC goes well beyond what is written. If the RCC didn't exist no one reading the NT would ever create it. There is nothing about ecclesiastical institutions, Popes, Cardinals etc. there is certainly nothing about new Apostles creating new doctrines (praying to Mary and the Saints).
The Early Church Fathers were men, their writings may be of historical importance but they are not divinely inspired and should not be used to create a church. There is a reason they are not scripture.
there is no evidence that Peter created the Papal system. Apostolic authority described not a permanent grace of authority on an individual but of the succession of Apostolic teaching. Those that persistently deviate from Biblical authority should be caste out of the church, they have departed from Apostolic authority in doctrine and morality. Once the authority is given as institutional that discipline becomes difficult without destroying the institution.
As to accepting that the Holy Spirit is available to non Catholics, well that means that salvation with all that the Holy Spirit brings (He dwells in us) is available without Popes, Cardinals etc. We have fellowship with the Father through Jesus by the Holy Spirit - and that can't be topped!
Incidentally to further press my claim I 'm reminded of:
Munificentissimus Deus of Pope Pius XII, issued November 1, 1950;
44. by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.
45. Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which we have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith.
47. It is forbidden to any man to change this, our declaration, pronouncement, and definition or, by rash attempt, to oppose and counter it. If any man should presume to make such an attempt, let him know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul."
So the Pope declares Protestants under the wrath of God having completely fallen away from the faith - all because we don't believe something that isn't in the bible! This declaration by Pius X11 is made Ex Cathedra and is therefore binding and infallible, it cannot be undone! Yet it is wrong. So much for Papal infallibility and Institutional Apostolic Succession. When you build your house on the sand it will collapse. It hasn't collapsed institutionally but biblically it has and thus cannot claim to be the true church.
God bless you.
You submit to your authority.
ONE faith, ONE baptism, ONE faith
Catholics are obsessed with authority in a very questionable way! Note, to become a child of God is a right that is given by Christ (John 1:12). This succession argument developed out of rivalry between Rome and other Apostolic sees; initially Rome advanced its cause by claiming to have the bones of both Paul and Peter. To win the argument, Stephen 256 AD or the pope before him started using Matthew 16:18 to claim primacy. I would say Leo 1 sealed it for Catholics and Gregory 1 really established it. A careful history reader should also see how historical circumstances helped RC rise to these heights. Read about Charlemagne, Gregory 7 over the subsequent years and the picture becomes clear!
The big question is, is it wrong to question Romish authority ❓ To start with, every Christian is expected to test every Spirit (1 John 4:1-2 and also sift and discard what is evil (1 Thessalonians 5: 21, 22). Joshua 24:15 also makes it clear that he had to choose to separate himself from the rest of Israel who had indulged in idolatry. Apparently, Protestants, which ever way the Catholicsb slice it, find Mariatory idolatrous. The dulia, hyper veneration etc. does not help and a Protestant will keep himself a thousand ks from such.
I also find it ridiculous that if two pygmies in the middle of Ituri rain forest can't settle a dispute between them, they must eventually travel all the way to Rome for the so called Church to settle the matter. I would like to say the twisted egoistic view of Romish Church fail to appreciate that our relationship is with Christ and only an evil man can start claiming authority that belongs to Christ for himself. We are all part of the body of Christ and Rome should not claim a superior role. Truly, Presbyters are just under shepherds of the chief shepherd, Christ (1 Peter 5:1-4).
Lastly, Christ also made it clear that, the idea of centralising power around oneself is a worldly concept which has nothing to do with His Kingdom( Luke 22:25,26). That's why in Philip the evangelist's ministry or Paul's you don't hear them linking any of their converts to Peter's authority! There you have it, if you want to understand Protestant's stands on the issue of authority!
So sayeth Pope mmbtalk! So sayeth all the popes, including the Pygmy Pope! No one but God has any authority over us! We are all popes and each of us can interpret the Word of God as we see fit! If you don’t like it, go and form your own religion as long as it ain’t from Rome! Long live a billion popes!😉
Thats a good comment. Why do you think there is so many people leaving, ( All different denominations ) for the Catholic faith? Or, is it meant to look like it is? mmmmmm..
@@joevasanu7459 With your Catholic mindset what you are saying makes sense, but surely in the Old Testament God promised to send His Spirit to teach us and it is by His Spirit that we distinguish true servants from wolves (Jeremiah 31:33, 34) and even the Apostle John says we have the anointing who guides(1 John 2:26,27). Unless you are telling me that only your Popes have got the anointing! By the way the term Pope was first used by Alexandrians in Egypt before the Pope of Rome adopted the title for himself and has nothing to do with the Bible!
I also can't understand why Catholics keep perpetuating the lie that to seek to understand scripture is arrogance! 2 Peter 1:21,22, here is referring to the fact that when prophets uttered their messages, it was not based on their own private interpretation, let me paste it here for you and you tell me if it has anything to do with interpretation being the prerogative of Popes!!
"knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20,21)
you invent arguments out of thin air, while ignoring the basic realities of the Catholic Church - you should read a history of the Church, or study one of the Church Fathers of the second or third centuries - just to have a basic knowledge of the life of the Church and its beliefs in those times - for instance, you could study Irenaeus of Lyon, a bishop and theologian of the second century
@@silveriorebelo2920 Fortunately, I am a natural reader of both anticene and postnicene; Irrenheus in his polemics against the Heretics is the one who refers to Rome being organised by Paul and Peter, but his statement is historically deficient, as the Church was established by neither, and most likely it was by those who were converted on the day of Pentecost. That's why when Paul concludes the book of Romans, he greets members of so many churches there but there is no mention of Peter. The only thing historians are agreed about is that both Paul and Peter were executed there by Nero!
We also read of Polycarp visiting Anecitus, bishop of Rome to try to and harmonise the Easter date but we that see neither had authority over the other. Even Ignatius, the favourite Bishop of the Papists, does not specifically identify a particular Roman Bishop with primary authority. However, the Romish church is a master of extrapolations and just the mention of the power of Bishop in Ignatius' letter is case for papal supremacy! Also Clement writes a letter urging the Corinthians not to depose their Bishops is somewhat an example of him exercising Papal authority! This is typical of how Rome has manipulated its way to the top!
We need to pray for our clergy and pray for holy Catholic leadership.
Welcome home Brother
Excellent precise straightforward presentation terrific great video May God The Holy Trinity Bless and increase in you his truth graces and virtues for rest of your life Amen 🙏🐑🕊️✨🔥
Right on. I left Protestantism for Orthodoxy in 2023. What I learned too was two significant things. 1. The Lutherans were in dialog with the Eastern Orthodox Church and acknowledged they were the truth one holy Catholic and apostolic Church, yet hadn’t submitted to their authority, but kept pushing their own innovations leading to the end of their conversion. 2. Learning about the great schism of 1054 A.D. and how papal supremacy and the Filioque were heresies leading to the Pope being excommunicated from the Church. Just like heretics in the early centuries, some being bishops and presbyters, they were excommunicated and outside the Church. Now, the Roman Catholic Church is neither Roman, for the empire doesn’t exist. It’s neither Catholic because it has departed from the Catholic faith via innovations and heresy. It’s also not a Church because a Church needs a bishop. The pope was no longer a bishop upon his heresy and excommunication. Knowing this, Protestants have no basis for anything they did. They were never a part of the Church. Even their confusion conflating bishop and presbyter can’t stand because they weren’t either not being a part of the apostolic Church as found in Orthodoxy.
I would like to share here a word from Father Maurice Zundel (Swiss Catholic priest and mystic): "God is not knowledge but a discovery. God is not an explanation but a person to encounter"
I believe it was Rome that excommunicated Luther . He was trying to his job as a duly ordained professor of theology. He raised academic questions and for doing his call he was booted.
Many people in the church today, even today, even the ordained, ask academic questions at the highest levels and make much more push back than Luther ever did. You will have to find the better argument, and there is one…
Thanks much for this video.
This was great. thank you.
Protestant or other churches people should watch this.
I admire any Protestant wjo watches a video like this. If someone loves the truth, they will study the reasons the Catholic church makes its claims. And get information about Catholicism from Catholic sources.
Really good apologetics here. Thanks for the good video.
If Satan Cast out Satan, how does his kingdom stand? If Mary or Jesus appears to someone and asks them to fight against evils like Abortion, Lust, etc, isn't that contrary to Satan's plans? Satan already has a kingdom with plenty of followers. Doesn't make much sense to fight against himself.
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I need some further explanation of Matthew 18 that you quoted. I've had a Protestant tell me that we don't need confession because of this verse, where you take your sins to your brother.... If you resolve the sin then you have gained a brother... How should I response to this? Thank you
Against the numerous spiritual confusions among the world, the Catholic Christian only has to oppose the clarity and simplicity of the GOSPEL. it is obvious : let us remain focus on the GOSPEL, the HOLY CROSS and the Teachings of the Holy Church.
Another one! If Jesus prayed for unity how could you ever promote schism?
Protestantism is in schism with confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects which is not of Jesus who willed unity Jn 17 11-23
In some comments, I seems that some have learn HUMILITY. here a beatiful prayer from a father of the Church, to get the HUMILTY => O Lord and Master of my life, take from me the spirit of sloth, despair, lust of power, and idle talk. But give rather the spirit of chastity, humility, patience, and love to Thy servant. Yea, O Lord and King, grant me to see my own transgressions, and not to judge my brother, for blessed art Thou, unto ages of ages. Amen. (Lenten Prayer of St. Ephrem)
Beautiful prayer!
JESUS the head doesn't need pope approval.
Thank you for this preaching. Very informative. I recently came back to Catholicism. Can you advise me a good translation of the Catholic Bible to buy, the most accurate one. God bless you and your ministry. 🙏
Authority comes directly from the Creator. A free individual has the absolute right to believe or not believe anything. That is a "self-evident" truth. Any notion that what one believes must be approved by an institution or a hierarchy is un-American and based on false teachings. There is more demonstrable truth in the Declaration of Independence, whose authors are well-known as real human beings, than in much of the New Testament, the writers of which are largely unidentified and who obviously had their own agenda.
Comments i read some are happy they left protestants and joined catholic but some are happy they left Catholic and joined protestants
While both churches have problems, flaws etc.. we are not perfect
This could be satan tactics
What important is we believe in Jesus Christ we are Christian We People are the Church of Christ not the Church Building
Truth matters
Outstanding.
Papacy/infallibility Mt 16:18-19 ... Jesus gives Peter primacy: rock, keys, binding and loosing. Is 22:22; Rev 1:18 ... keys as symbol of authority. Jn 21:17 ... "feed my sheep" Mt 10:1-4; Mk 3:16-19; Lk 6:14-16; Acts 1:13; Lk 9:32 ... Peter mentioned first, as foremost apostle. Mt 18:21; Mk 8:29; Lk 12:41; Jn 6:68-69 ... Peter speaks for the apostles. Acts 2:14-40 ... Pentecost: Peter who first preached. Acts 3:6-7 ... Peter worked first healing. Acts 10:46-48 ... Gentiles to be baptized revealed to Peter. Jn 1:42 ... Simon is Cephas (Aramaic: Kepha for rock). Lk 22:31-32 ... "Simon ... strengthen your brethren". Lk 10:1-2,16; Jn 13:20; 2 Cor 5:20; Gal 4:14; Acts 5:1-5 ... "vicars" (substitutes) of Christ. Mt 17:24-27 ... Peter, Jesus' representative, is exempt from temple tax. Mk 6:20; Lk 1:70,2:23; Rom 12:1; Act 3:21, 1 Cor 7:14; Eph 3:5; Col 1:22 ... humans can be holy ("call no one holy").
Church and authority Acts 2:42 ... doctrine, community, sacred rite (bread). Eph 5:25-26 ... Christ loved the Church. 1 Tim 3:15 ... church is pillar/foundation of truth. Mt 16:18 ... Christ protects Church. Heb 13:17 ... obey. Mt 18:17-18 ... church as final authority. Mt 23:2-3 ... Pharisees succeeded Moses (seat of Moses). 1 Cor 5:5; 1 Tim 1:20 ... excommunication. Jn 17:21 ... that they may be one. Jn 10:16 ... one flock, one shepherd.
Acts 1:15-26; 2 Tim 2:2; Tit 1:5 ...unbroken succession. Acts 15:6,23; Acts 14:23; 1 Tim 4:14, 1 Tim 5:22; 2 Tim 1:6-7; 1 Tim 5:17; Jas 5:13-15 ... presbyters/elders (priests) were ordained, preached and taught the flock, administered sacraments. Jn 8:56; Lk 16:24; Rom 4:1,16-18; 1 Cor 4:14-15; Acts 7:2; 1 Thess 2:11; 1 Jn 2:13-14; Judges 17:9-10; Judges 18:19; ... "call no one father"? 1 Cor 7:7-9 ... Paul unmarried. Mt 19:12; 1 Cor 7:32-33, 1 Tim 4:11-12 ... celibacy. Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Heb 7:1-17 ... Melchizedek. 1 Cor 12 ... different roles of members of body. 1 Pet 2:5-9 ... people can be priests A universal priesthood (Ex 19:5-6) does not exclude a specific Aaronic (Ex 28:1) or Levitical (Num 3:6-12) priesthood.
The Matthew 28 quote most people and certainly Protestants don’t see that before Jesus told them to go teach everything he had commanded and to Baptize in the name of the Trinity, he did it FROM HIS AUTHORITY. In other words they could then go and teach by the Authority of Jesus.
If he didn’t give them this authority they would have just been a random group of men teaching whatever they wanted.
Well done discussion. This line of argument works well against Protestant ecclesiology. I'm not sure how it works against Orthodox ecclesiology though. (As a Protestant on The Road to . . . Somewhere. :))
Excellent video.
Excellent
The AUTHORITY, is important and as we speak we speak with it on all things Catholic because c we have been Confirmed but others do not. And the Church has AUTHORITY over all of us threw Jesus Christ whom is the Word of God. How beautiful and we all have the greatest Creature, greatest Saint, our greatest Mother the Mater of Jesus our Dominus, wonderful but sad that others do not understand this gift...
As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, *when I awake, with thy likeness*
{Psalm 17:15}
So *David slept with his fathers* and was buried in the city of David.
{1 Kings 2:10}
And *Solomon slept with his fathers* and was buried in the city of David his father: and Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead.
{1 Kings 11:43}
And *Rehoboam slept with his fathers* and was buried with his fathers in the city of David. And his mother's name was Naamah an Ammonitess. And Abijam his son reigned in his stead.
{1 Kings 14:31}
And *Abijam slept with his fathers* and they buried him in the city of David: and Asa his son reigned in his stead.
{1 Kings 15:8}
And *Asa slept with his fathers* and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Jehoshaphat his son reigned in his stead.
{1 Kings 15:24}
And Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers, *and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father* and Jehoram his son reigned in his stead.
{1 Kings 22:50}
Thy dead men *shall* live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, *ye that dwell in dust* for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, *until the indignation be overpast*
{Isaiah 26:19-20}
-- There will be two resurrections separated by a thousand years.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
{Daniel 12:2}
“And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
{John 5:29}
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward *they that are Christ's at his coming*
{1 Corinthians 15:23}
But *the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished* This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in *the first resurrection* on such *the second death* hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
{Revelation 20:5-6}
“Let both grow together *until the harvest* and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together *first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them* but gather the wheat into my barn.”
{Matthew 13:30}
“And, behold, I come quickly; and *my reward is with me* to give *every man* according as his work shall be.”
{Revelation 22:12}
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And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
{Revelation 22:17}
-- The time of the wedding feast.
To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints*
{1 Thessalonians 3:13}
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb *is come* and his wife hath made herself ready.
{Revelation19:7}
"But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you *in my Father's* kingdom."
{Matthew 26:29}
The first chapter of Mathew verse 25 already gives Roman Catholisism problems in that Mary did not die a virgen.
And who gave the USA the right to declare independance?? And who gave a woman the right to leave/divorce her husband?? When God-given authority is abused, and God-given rights are denied - then the victims have the right to abandon the authority. Futhermore, Luther did not forsake the Catholic Church; it was the Catholic Church who excommunicated Luther.
Why did they excommunicate him?
@@charlesjoyce982 Initially, Luther (who was a Catholic monk theologian at the time) opposed the issue of idulgences. At the time, the Catholic Church had a massive project to renovate St. Peters in Rome. In order to raise the finances requires for this undertaking the Pope/Rome issued "indulgences". By purchasing "indulgence", the purchaser could shorten the time he would spend in purgatory after death .... or forego purgatory altogether ..... and go straight to heaven. The Catholic authorities imterpreted Luther's opposition to indulgences as an opposition to the Pope's authority. As lines hardened, Luther's position evolved into an opposition to the Pope's authority - but this was NOT his initial position. As is often the case, when there are disagreements ( between individuals, nations, etc); disagreements can escalate to a point where there is a total breakdown of understanding and reconciliation becomes impossible. Luther did NOT abandon the Catholic Church but when he refused to backdown on the issue, the Church excommunicated him.
That is a simplified version of things.
Apostolic succession is deeply rooted in Scripture.
-- "On the day of preperation, at the hour of dinner, there came out pursuers and horsemen" and Polycarp was killed "on *the great day of the Sabbath* at the eighth hour"
(The encyclical epistle of the church at Smyrna, the Martyrdom of Polycarp, Bishop of Smyrna. Verses 7.1 & 8.1 Charles H. Hoole's 1885 translation.)
-- "Again as to the assertion that Sabbath has been abolished. We deny that He has abolished it plainly; for He was Himself Lord of the Sabbath."
(Archelaus c. 3rd century.)
-- "Gnostic 8th day Origins"
"They affirm that man was formed on the eighth day, for sometimes they will have him been made on the sixth day, and sometimes on the eighth, unless perchance they mean that the earthly part was formed on the sixth day, but his fleshly part on the eighth, for these two things are distinguished by them."
(Irenaeus of Lyons c. 2nd century.)
-- The Gnostic "Eight Day" origins of Sunday rest.
"But the works of the Nicolaitans in that time were false and troublesome men, who, as ministers under the name of Nicholas, had made for themselves a hersey, to the effect that what might be offered to Idols might be exorcised and eaten, and whoever should have committed fornication might receive peace on the eighth day."
(Victorinious of Pettau c. 3rd century.)
-- "For almost all the churches throughout the world celebrate the mysteries on the Sabbath of every week, yet the Christians of *Alexandria and Rome* on account of some *ancient tradition* cease to do this."
(Socrates Scholasticus c. 380 - 439 A.D.)
-- "There are many here among us now, who fast on the same day as the Jews, [Rome made the Sabbath day a fast] and keep the Sabbaths in the same mannor."
(John Chrysostom c. 339 - 407 A.D.)
-- 'Primitive Christianity' Athanasius Bishop of Alexandria tells us that "They assemble on Saturday, not that they are infected with Judaism, but only to worship Christ the Lord of the Sabbath"
(Pseudo Athanasius; William Cave c. 1676)
-- "Thus Christ did not at all rescind the Sabbath, He kept the law thereof.....even in the case before us He fulfilled the law while interpreting its condition; moreover, He exhibits in a clear light the different kinds of work, while doing what the law excepts from the sacredness of the Sabbath and while imparting to the Sabbath itself, which from the beginning had been consecrated by the Benediction of the Father. An additional sanctity by His own Beneficent action. For He furnished to this day divine safeguards..... *a course which His adversary would have pursued for some other days, to avoid honouring the Creator's Sabbath* and restoring to the Sabbath the works which were proper for it."
(3rd century Tertillian on the Sabbath.)
*Council of Laodicea* canon 29 A.D. 363
"Christians must not Judaize by resting on the sabbath day, but must work on that day, rather honoring --the Lord's Day-- [Sun-day] and, if they can, resting as Christians.
But if they they shall be found to be Judaizers, let them be an anathema from Christ."
^
Proof that true Christianity still remembered the sabbath day, to keep it Holy, even in the fourth century A.D.
Someone has written “Jesus and the Scriptures are one”. But don't forget : Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh. Jesus is not the “Scriptures” of God. He is the Word of God. God created everything by His Word and not by “notes” (Read the beginning of the book of Genesis and the beginning of the Gospel of John).
I can guarantee that there was an imposter“Jesus”who appeared to Joseph Smith but this imposter“Jesus” I can guarantee didn’t have the wounds on his hands and feet.
Many Catholic saints had this imposter “Jesus” appeared to them but they rebuked this imposter “Jesus” back to hell. My Jesus has wounds they exclaimed!
Neither Joseph Smith, NOR Muhammad tested the spirit who spoke to them (1 John 4:1). There are eerie parallels between Islam and Mormonism.
@@HAL9000-su1mz and David from Waco also said an angel as a being radiant in all light or as Saint Paul puts it, an angel of light, appeared to him and supposedly gave him knowledge about the Book of Revelation.
The devil going around masquerading as good.
@@HAL9000-su1mz this is my opinion but I’m almost certain that a Protestant would acknowledge a Protestant suicidal cult’s claim that they are Christian before they acknowledge the Catholic Church as being Christian.
They want to be the ones seen as the only Christians. Reason why they assert that Catholicism isn’t Christianity and add paganism just to keep the Catholic Church as far away from ever being Biblical.
It’s dishonest and uncharitable in their part.
@@JWellsUp Vernon Howell. Read about his tortured childhood and we can understand why the SDA/Branch Davidians allowed children to be burned alive.
wrong
Great detailed video!
Yes in protestantism or those who claim not to be protestant they all put their faith in men. Catholic Christians put all their faith in Jesus Christ through his grace. Jesus I trust in you.
then why ignore John 14:15, Sir?
St Irenaeus was very influential for me
The new covenant was established when Christ died on the cross and the veil was torn in two from top to bottom. We no longer need a priest to enter into the presence of God and fellowship with Him.
What about Mal 1:11 with gentiles offering pure sacrifice at all times & in all places which the CC does daily in most parishes around the world. The Holy Mass is of cosmic significance! The earth could survive without the sun, but not without the Holy Mass!
The event does signify that we can draw near to God, receiving him intimately as members of his Catholic Church in Holy Communion (John 6:51-58; 1 Corinthians 11:23-33). We need not go to the temple in Jerusalem to have this intimate communion, for in the New Covenant Jesus’ body becomes “the definitive Temple” (CCC 593, 586).
That is why the sacrifice of the Mass, which sacramentally “re-presents” Christ’s one paschal sacrifice (see CCC 1366-67), can be offered at any Catholic church in the world.
“In the Old Covenant, only the high priest could enter the holy of holies, i.e., the place inside the veil, and only on the Day of Atonement (see Leviticus 16:1-34). Any other attempt would result in death (see Leviticus 16:1-2; Numbers 3:10, 18:7). But the temple veil was first torn in two, and then then the temple was destroyed in A.D. 70, the latter event definitively conveying that temple worship had given way to New Covenant worship.”
- Tom Nash
Sir what about this bibel verse in John ch 3 vs 27 " a man can recieve nothing except it be given him form heaven" he didn't say except it be given by the Roman catholic church. .From heaven it says.
Are you listening? The heavenly gift is given from the Father to the Son to the Apostles to the Church to us.
Try to keep up.
Prottie: "The Catholic Church is evil, but they were correct in their canonization of Scripture."
Amen
The state of the dead, according to the word of God.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
{Genesis 2:17}
Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
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So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
👉till my change come.
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His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
{Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
{Job 19:26}
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
{The Preacher 9:10}
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
{Psalm 146:3-4}
Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.
Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
{John 11:12-14}
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Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
👉at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
{John 11:24-25}
But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
{Daniel 12:13}
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
{John 3:16}
And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
{Genesis 3:4}
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
{Ezekiel 28:14}
^
(satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
*He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
{Isaiah 33:14-15}
If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
This comment is crazy : "We do not know God, not even Jesus Christ"! Meanwhile Jesus himself tells us: “Whoever has seen me has seen God. Who knows me, knows God”. This is why we must learn a little more every day about Jesus-Christ. How ? by reading the Gospel, by praying to God, by going to the sacraments and by putting the Gospel into practice in our ordinary lives. And by practicing, Faith, Hope and Charity. But the most important is indeed the Charity (Saint Paul).
Amen🙏🏻✝️🕊
Why not look at the whole councel in acts??