Tell the governments to lower the taxes, thats the main problem. And also, there are more people that can afford stuff these days than 15-20 years ago.
That deep low sound of the Suzuki though. I love my 09 rmz450. Still looks like new with OEM plastics but I got gold warp 9 rims and a titanium RS4 yoshimura full exhaust and carbon pipe. And i have ktm Honda and Kawasaki dirtbikes in my garage too
Client: hey l'd like to buy a ktm Salesman: which color? Orange, red or white? Gas gas is the best looking, white and red, simple. Honda-ish but Beautiful
@@f7noxx that isnt a fact, how come more riders riding ktms win more professional races than Honda riders. I grew up in a Honda fan boy family and know for a FACT that they aren't better. Look at facts and not brands and colors
I really do wish you would share the lap times between the bikes and riders. And if the differences aren't enough to rank them reliably - that's a huge takaway too, just get the one whatever calls to you or you score a deal on.
@@JamesyMusial14 Sounds like we're both Suzuki lovers, and maybe Im a bit biased having owned a RM 80, 125, and 250 2T..I can remember back in the day going out to my garage and looking at my beautiful and freshly washed blue, yellow, and gold RM's,,perfect !!
@@gregmaggio5217 I still find myself going into the garage and cranking my 2020 RMZ 250, just watching it idling on the stand. Thought I was the only weirdo out here; my friends all do the same.😂😂😂😂
i dont plan to go back and forth about this (and wont), but i refuse to see how KTM is saving brands, they're just saving the brand NAMES and offering 3 bikes with small differences in componentry and settings. it doesnt change the fact that 3 of the bikes in the shootout all come off the same assembly line, like most department store riding mowers... not a fan and i own a new ktm, but that doesnt mean i have to agree with everything they do. regardless, great video as always!!
supposedly KTM doesn't allow their dealers to discount their bikes like the Japanese do, so Gasgas is their brand to be priced competitively against the japanese bikes
I agree in large part with what you said. some brands they just buy and destroy and others they actually have saved at least the name. BMW destroyed Italian Husqvarna and then left a carcass for KTM to snatch up. The only thing KTM got out of the deal was the brand equity. They sold the intellectual property from BMW to gas gas who did not have the capital to develop it or use it. They bought husaberg essentially to acquire their intellectual property and then dump them in the van as soon as they acquired Husky. Gas gas would have probably disappeared so at least they saved the name a a la Husqvarna. It really been nice if They could have maintained each brand's original equipment as the gas gas off road bikes were excellent. Reverting back to some of the Cagiva Husqvarna models would have been nice too as those were good motorcycles. But platform sharing is probably the only way to make it work in a small volume research intensive industry like off-road motorcycling.
@@powersportsenthusiast1986 Well, there are video's of Charlier testing it on instagram for 2021 MXGP and here's a photo of it. Still hoping to see it in the 2022 shootout. instagram.com/p/CJJ7XzLipIz/? i.ibb.co/njd2qwD/beta-450.jpg
@@DirtBikeMagazine Most of us think that the sound of the engines is enough. I know it's not only me because this kind of ''no music please'' comment can be found in a ton of TH-cam dirt bike videos. This is a constructive comment only. Your magazine and videos are still appreciated.
@@bullfrog1807 your a sheep lol the bikes lost every single shootout it’s been in but you still wanna buy it just coz it looks cool 😂😂 may as well save your money and go buy a Fukin carby 2012 yz250f if you want bogging and spluttering
Exactly, if I bought a gas gas the first thing I’d do to it is put black rims on it, there goes my $800 on the first modification therefor I’d just buy a Ktm or husky that doesn’t have disgusting silver rims
Right on the prices today are 3Xs that. I know my pay today hasn’t tripled or even double since then about the same today as it was back when I purchased my first new bike then I paid cash bought and paid for today you almost got to take a mortgage out on the house to buy something to play in the dirt today The privateer today probably not to many privateers racing have a practice bike and a race bike especially with little to no support
Jason that was probably mid to late 1980s . Yes that makes us all old irrelevant geezers . Now back then - Mx Was Really tough because the earths crust hadn’t cooled yet. Talk about tough on tires ! Btw , what is the maximum age for having a valid opinion? 25 maybe?
Just bought a 22 Crf 450 this weekend. The only thing i don’t like is no kick start. You should be able to kick it over after it has been in storage and has a dead battery.
Dear dirt bike magazine can you make a shootout with 125 2 strokes you got a lot more 125 bikes now than a year ago. Beta, fantic, husqvarna, ktm, gasgas, tm, sherco
I’m not a fan of the way ktm marketing husky by calling it a legacy brand, making it seem like a collectible item or a novelty bike. The husky is a beast.
@@codenamenoob4973 it has changed. But thankfully it still has some old school traits, which I love. Pro circuit exhaust, high compression piston and a little suspension massaging and its one of the best. They are all good, but when u can buy an rmz with 5hr for 4-5k less than a husky, then u have a lot of room build it to you liking. Mine is wicked fast n handles phenomenal.
E-start is a non issue for me. Just a few tricks I got 9lbs off. U people are being geeks. I ride for enjoyment, not to hang with dorks who think they are cool b/c they ride a certain bike. My Zook with high compression piston n pro circuit exhaust n dialed in suspension is one of the funniest bikes I've owned.
@@CaptainKarma8 my 2020 definitely isnt trash lol forks are a little soft and the fact that I cant slap a single slip-on on sucks but it forsure isnt trash
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These manufacturers gotta figure out a way to drop these prices, they are getting unreachable
Tell the governments to lower the taxes, thats the main problem. And also, there are more people that can afford stuff these days than 15-20 years ago.
No joke huh, 10 grand for a new bike? Ouch.
@@BlastingVideozs 11499$ plus tax.
100%
@@jonahhanson7235 mommy and daddy bought them not u
"This bike isn't a ktm clone......"
"Similar to the ktm it has...."
"Much like the ktm...."
"It has a ktm designed...."
Soooo a ktm clone?
4 Japanese bikes and 3 KTM’s!
Well, you're not wrong.
So true !
Japan Big 4 vs KTM 3
Suzuki should put yellow plastic and KYB suspension on a KTM.
Husky is starting too change a bit from the KTMs.
Lol yah
That deep low sound of the Suzuki though. I love my 09 rmz450. Still looks like new with OEM plastics but I got gold warp 9 rims and a titanium RS4 yoshimura full exhaust and carbon pipe.
And i have ktm Honda and Kawasaki dirtbikes in my garage too
Love that
I got an 09 as well. It sounds good but shes so heavy lol
I got the same rmz450 man
❤️
07 rmz450
Client: hey l'd like to buy a ktm
Salesman: which color? Orange, red or white?
Gas gas is the best looking, white and red, simple. Honda-ish but Beautiful
Honda is better than ktm
@@carsonjohnson1845 well, back that statement up with facts
th-cam.com/channels/BllCazkt6sKDNs6mNn8keg.html
@@williambatten903 it’s common sense
@@f7noxx that isnt a fact, how come more riders riding ktms win more professional races than Honda riders. I grew up in a Honda fan boy family and know for a FACT that they aren't better. Look at facts and not brands and colors
All awesome bikes. But my favorite is still Suzuki.
Same here bro suzuki all the way
Ew
SAMEEEEE. What bike do u ride. Rmz450?
Same i choose suzuki among these bikes 👍
Long live the 2 stroke!
Facts, love my YZ250.
I really do wish you would share the lap times between the bikes and riders.
And if the differences aren't enough to rank them reliably - that's a huge takaway too, just get the one whatever calls to you or you score a deal on.
My gawd,,the RMZ looked and sounded so good on the track !
They sound so nice, I miss my 2017 😭😭
@@JamesyMusial14 Sounds like we're both Suzuki lovers, and maybe Im a bit biased having owned a RM 80, 125, and 250 2T..I can remember back in the day going out to my garage and looking at my beautiful and freshly washed blue, yellow, and gold RM's,,perfect !!
@@gregmaggio5217
I still find myself going into the garage and cranking my 2020 RMZ 250, just watching it idling on the stand. Thought I was the only weirdo out here; my friends all do the same.😂😂😂😂
@@ironmaiden8625 oh no I let her run in the garage too lol and just watch her 2014 RMZ-250 😂
Electric start on a dirt bike was a real Game Changer, just watch the races, I like Suzuki its a shame the haven't stepped up to 2021
i dont plan to go back and forth about this (and wont), but i refuse to see how KTM is saving brands, they're just saving the brand NAMES and offering 3 bikes with small differences in componentry and settings. it doesnt change the fact that 3 of the bikes in the shootout all come off the same assembly line, like most department store riding mowers... not a fan and i own a new ktm, but that doesnt mean i have to agree with everything they do. regardless, great video as always!!
The 3 bikes produced by KTM are NOT the same. Do some research. Or better yet, listen to the description in the video.
supposedly KTM doesn't allow their dealers to discount their bikes like the Japanese do, so Gasgas is their brand to be priced competitively against the japanese bikes
Well that's Just good business for KTM i think
I agree in large part with what you said. some brands they just buy and destroy and others they actually have saved at least the name. BMW destroyed Italian Husqvarna and then left a carcass for KTM to snatch up. The only thing KTM got out of the deal was the brand equity. They sold the intellectual property from BMW to gas gas who did not have the capital to develop it or use it. They bought husaberg essentially to acquire their intellectual property and then dump them in the van as soon as they acquired Husky. Gas gas would have probably disappeared so at least they saved the name a a la Husqvarna. It really been nice if They could have maintained each brand's original equipment as the gas gas off road bikes were excellent. Reverting back to some of the Cagiva Husqvarna models would have been nice too as those were good motorcycles. But platform sharing is probably the only way to make it work in a small volume research intensive industry like off-road motorcycling.
@@JetSkiSuper7 ha, maybe Suzuki
Suzuki is still my favorite bike. Kickstart for life!
honest mbro
100%
Yep my dad and pretty much all the peaple I ride with have electric start and I’m still on an old yz😂
You can always remove the starter think about weight loss😂😂😂
Love this review!! I got a 2020 crf 450. First brand new dirt bike. 49 years old
Good for you. Enjoy it. I'm 47. The only, two new bike, I've ever owned were 82 xr 80 and then 84 kx 80.
How is it so far
That midlife crisis is going to hurt lol. Atta boy!
I'm 63 and just logged 30 hours on my 2021 CRF250F. Just sold it so I can get a little more rowdy! Haven't decided yet but there is this GasGas 450...
I have faith for rmz
YZF and YZ long live.YAMAHA MOVING FORWARD 💪❤️👍
ive never been a fan of gasgas but there 450 definitely looks the best it kinda makes me want one
It’s a red ktm, everything on the bike is the same except for color
I do also believe wet weight with a full gas tank that the gas gas is the lightest out of them all
@@Ivanrosmilso That’s just 100% not true.
@@jameszhou7112 The husky is the heaviest of them all, Damn composite subframe lol!
It’s just a red KTM now. Can’t not like it if you like KTM and Husky.
They put Honda in LAST PLACE behind Suzuki.... OUCH! 😆
That's just wrong LOL
Fast reply
Yeah that’s bullshit
Wdym Suzuki is awesome
@@elijahhector3220 not better than Honda though
The GasGas looks amazing
"Absolutely no Mechanical changes for the Yamaha" *Steeper valve angles, *more aggressive camshaft.......wat
The Suzuki is the best looking bike.
Too bad that's the old one the '21 looks good still but not as good as the '19-20
It may look good but it’s still a Suzuki lol
Hope to see the TM and the Beta in next years shootout.
beta doesnt make a 450 mx bike...
@@powersportsenthusiast1986 Well, there are video's of Charlier testing it on instagram for 2021 MXGP and here's a photo of it. Still hoping to see it in the 2022 shootout.
instagram.com/p/CJJ7XzLipIz/?
i.ibb.co/njd2qwD/beta-450.jpg
Yeah
Hoping Tm goes big next year in 4 strokes and does that italian magic🤘🏻🤘🏻
If they got a 300 two stroke in motocross I bet they have a 450 not far behind
Ok I know this video is about motorcycles, but seriously slick products is literally the best thing you can buy. Period.
Isnt the gas gas the lightest out of them all?
Informative but I must say that the ''music'' is extremely annoying.
Sorry you are upset about this music. It has to be legally licensed. We can't use the Rolling Stones unfortunately.
@@DirtBikeMagazine Paint it Black would be perfect!! I give you permission! -Mick Jagger
@@DirtBikeMagazine No It's that you don't realize the motorcycles make the music!!
@@DirtBikeMagazine Most of us think that the sound of the engines is enough. I know it's not only me because this kind of ''no music please'' comment can be found in a ton of TH-cam dirt bike videos. This is a constructive comment only. Your magazine and videos are still appreciated.
@@DirtBikeMagazine How about no noise period or rather what you guys perceive as music,PLEASE! with a cherry on top.
The story on your website has the Honda listed @ 333lbs. I assume you meant 233lbs.
My local shop every bike is sold out except for the huskys lol
My local shop only sells ktms lol
My local guys have 1 450 of each besides the gas gas and husqvarva....I love them all but I got my eye on that Honda 😍
@@bullfrog1807 your a sheep lol the bikes lost every single shootout it’s been in but you still wanna buy it just coz it looks cool 😂😂 may as well save your money and go buy a Fukin carby 2012 yz250f if you want bogging and spluttering
Do Kawasaki and Suzuki still use the same engine blocks?
is there going to be a 2021 dual sport shootout?
SUZUKI💛💪💪💪
Can you guys do shootout videos like this but for the offroad race bikes like the yzfx, crfrx, xcf, fx, kxxc and the rest of that line up of bikes?
The 2021 rmz Comstock with the MX-Tuner 2.0 that’s what it says on their website anyways
Always the best shootouts
Opinions please. I'm 6-2 210 lbs novice. Is there a certain bike that fits a taller rider better than the others?
Kx450 is a comfortable bike for tall boys
SSR has a 450 dirt bike you shod test it as well it is not a trial bike it's a racing bike it may be cheaper but it is still good.
the shootout is getting huge again
Aesthetically the Suzuki looks the best!
Even though I'm a Kawasaki fan boy. If I had to buy a new 4 Stroke, I would buy the Suzuki because of the kick start.
Me watching knowing damn well I can't even afford a new mini bike:
If you think a $800 price drop on a $10,000 bike makes a difference your crazy.
That way you can afford an exhaust...that the others come with lol
Actually quite a bit, almost 10%.
That's 1 less payment.
Exactly, if I bought a gas gas the first thing I’d do to it is put black rims on it, there goes my $800 on the first modification therefor I’d just buy a Ktm or husky that doesn’t have disgusting silver rims
@@JamesyMusial14 the silver rims look good on it tho
What about Sherco? They made new 450’s too.
The bike isn’t worth mentioning
I love the vibration between my legs as the motor revs up
Cut 5 minutes and this would be by far the best bike test on TH-cam.
I think the length is good, I enjoy watching moto vids!
The first bike I bought brand new was $3400 it doesn’t seem that long ago a new big bike is 10k that’s mind boggling.
My first brand new 4 wheeler was 3300$. I just spent $10,000 on a new Raptor! Insane
But it is awesome as hell lol
Right on the prices today are 3Xs that. I know my pay today hasn’t tripled or even double since then about the same today as it was back when I purchased my first new bike then I paid cash bought and paid for today you almost got to take a mortgage out on the house to buy something to play in the dirt today The privateer today probably not to many privateers racing have a practice bike and a race bike especially with little to no support
Coolcatamapro Cat no privateers to speak of these days .
what year was that grandpa?
Jason that was probably mid to late 1980s . Yes that makes us all old irrelevant geezers . Now back then - Mx Was Really tough because the earths crust hadn’t cooled yet. Talk about tough on tires ! Btw , what is the maximum age for having a valid opinion? 25 maybe?
Forks already leaking on the husky?
It’s a terrible bike
Which bike is rommiest for big guys. It used to be the Yamaha. I'm 6"4' and 290 lbs. I need room so I am not cramped
If people took their financial future as serious as they do these dirt bike toys, they would be worth millions.
'tis a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.
Angry wives don't belong here!! Hahaha! No offense. ;)
In the end You can't bring your money with you
Yeah but you can make a lot of money racing dirt bikes
That's not as much fun. Since I have you, what stock are you recommending to buy? Or investments you recommend??
My dream dirt bike crf 450💖
Where is TM racing?😟
Where they belong
Now KTM can battle for the top three positions of the shootout 🙈
Ktm the best
I love my KTM 450
Not in the 250 class rn it’s good but can’t touch the YZ and kx
I miss the gas gas 300 that quad was amazing
Fuck yea a shoot out with all the bikes thanks!!!
I have a 450r, best bike made hands down!
If you aint mixin gas,you aint spankin ass...
Incoming Hugo with CR500 comments.
🤣
There's always one jackass who has to leave an unrelated 2 stroke comment.
@@kelceyk8199 every time. I think they're trying to be cool. He's gonna come back and say, "nah I've got a Honda Cr 450sx-f" or something like that.
@@jonahhanson7235 and and its a 2 stroke just like me with my girl. The f in sx-f just stands for FUCK UUU
Can't wait to see Justin Barcia on that MC.
Where can I get yellow lettered Dunlop tires?
Suzuki!!
Welcome to the Dave Ramsay show...
Great bikes, Suzuki #1! Gas Gas def 2nd! Kawasaki 3rd. Solidly. Buying 1 of the 3 early March when winter breaks here in NW Ohio. 🇺🇸
Get a new '21 Dave Ramsey! See my plans below
Take the background music out pleaseeeeeeeee😤 no one wants to hear 25 min of that music
Fr
Cliche dealer style bullshit
The new Honda looks sick!
But it blows.
@@caydenthompson126 ya either like it or ya don't. I've heard plenty liking it
@@brockpeck7073 I heard the suspension and mapping sucks
Does the gas gas have the phone tuning ?
How did my 2011 yz450 get so old?
Don't worry, it's not old. I have a 1983 YZ250 👍
why are Huskys always more expensive????? I cant work it out
Last year: Suzuki is the worst
This year: The suzuki is exactly the same as last year, we think it is so incredibly good!
😆😆😆
ESSA MOTO GASGAS É TOP 👌👌👌👌
Just bought a 22 Crf 450 this weekend. The only thing i don’t like is no kick start. You should be able to kick it over after it has been in storage and has a dead battery.
Nice honest shoutout ! Thanks
Dear dirt bike magazine can you make a shootout with 125 2 strokes you got a lot more 125 bikes now than a year ago. Beta, fantic, husqvarna, ktm, gasgas, tm, sherco
The honda is sweet
great review - team green again, wow, they are doing it right, but I love all of these bikes.
does suzuki rmz still production??? and join ama supercross,??????
I think they have a 2021 450 team lined up not sure about the 250 class
ok thanks . rmz . still competitif .
That suzuki 😍🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍
Great video thumbs up if you agree
Honda the hottest bike right now 🔥 You can even find one in the delares all sold out
It got last place
@@coltoncoghill3925 that’s bull shit
@@dasnicenoob6140 It's true. A lot of shootouts don't like it even.
@@caydenthompson126 doubt it
@@dasnicenoob6140 do your research
Why those bike pipe use big megabomb?
The kx check your piston after about 20hrs my friends had piston slap already which left marks.
I changed at 55 hours...and it looked new. Does he bang the rev limiter?
55 hours on my 2021 , no piston slap for me 🤷🏽
Team Green domination continues
Best bike 450 4t is?
Anyone having issues with their new Honda 450's fouling plugs even after a remap? Fellow rider is having this issue.
I prefer to ride quads over dirtbike, but man they are fun to watch. They gotta start making quads again, nows like the perfect time
Yay,,all NEW FARTBOXES!!!
I’m not a fan of the way ktm marketing husky by calling it a legacy brand, making it seem like a collectible item or a novelty bike. The husky is a beast.
Is it? Tell us why it's a beast.
Good job, Tilley & crew 👊
RMZ can be bought for around 5999-6999, so it wins🍺
Because it hasn't really changed in 10 years
I owned one, I didn't feel like a winner. Sold it and bought 2020 Husky Rockstar, it is on another level compared to RMZ.
It’s cheap but it’s a dinosaur. No E start and heaviest of all bikes is a joke.
@@codenamenoob4973 it has changed. But thankfully it still has some old school traits, which I love. Pro circuit exhaust, high compression piston and a little suspension massaging and its one of the best. They are all good, but when u can buy an rmz with 5hr for 4-5k less than a husky, then u have a lot of room build it to you liking. Mine is wicked fast n handles phenomenal.
E-start is a non issue for me. Just a few tricks I got 9lbs off. U people are being geeks. I ride for enjoyment, not to hang with dorks who think they are cool b/c they ride a certain bike. My Zook with high compression piston n pro circuit exhaust n dialed in suspension is one of the funniest bikes I've owned.
Kawasaki king again bike wins championships period
Except they just cant last in the mud. 20 min in a 30 min moto is all you get.
And they still feel the need to keep using castle nuts
So how much HP does the Honda have?
60
@@sparkplug5129 wow
A lot!!!
Honda for life 🤘💯😍
That red ktm looks pretty cool
I got a 2022 kx450 x and she’s a beast
I like that ktm is saving other brands, as long as the evolution of the following bikes go in seperate ways...
My gawd, that kawasaki looks sharp !
I’m a Kawasaki guy and But I wish I had a yz after I rode one
Nice dirt bike
Team RMZ
I think of bikes like Skittles, taste the rainbow >:)
Model of Dunlop tires?
Man it’d
Be sick if you got a guy to test that rides MX and off-road.. and have him
Tell us if he could only have one bike what would he pick
you forgot the best dirt bike: TM 450
I prefer honda crf 2017 design:'( rather than the 2021 one
2017 - 2020 bike was trash, all power and twitchy frame
@@CaptainKarma8 sorry but my argue is about the design dude✌
@@CaptainKarma8 my 2020 definitely isnt trash lol forks are a little soft and the fact that I cant slap a single slip-on on sucks but it forsure isnt trash
@@johnnyboyy909 just dual yoshi haha
I'm honestly surprised that Kawasaki paid you the most to make them winner.
Cool now I can get a gas gas 4 stroke
How I wish I have any of those bikes.
I gotta know where to buy those Dunlop stickers...
Email them. I did that probably 10 years ago and they sent a bunch for free. They might ask for you to pay for postage though