I have had fragmented sleep for a long time. I sleep 4h quite well but then I wake up every 20mins. I have done every trick in the book; quit my job and go on holiday for months now, go to bed & wake up exactly at the same time day to day, no substance use, meditation & jooga, I am very active during the day time (in crazy good physical shape, six pack etc), eating healthy, fasting & calming down hours before bedtime, using very dim red lights after sun set. I spend all my days outside. No phone or internet at evenings. My HRV during sleep has improved 3 folds. But the sleep fragmentation is still there. My watch gives me an average score of 1.3 on scale 1-5. Avg adult is 3.2. The only solution is to sleep next to my girlfriend, I can score 4.8/5.0 continuity. But I live alone. I am pretty helpless with this. Telling you all this because I know it's a trauma thing from my past marriage. Maybe it helps someone else to hear this.
I have anxiety as I injured my back and I have been stressing and have had anxiety for past 2 months and my sleep is like this for weeks and weeks and idk what to do
I’m on my 7th night without ropinirole after gradually tapering down the dose. For the last week I’ve been constantly waking up throughout the night and tossing and turning all night. Could this be a withdrawal symptom?
The rebound/withdrawal effect from coming off dopamine agonists like ropinirole in the treatment of restless legs syndrome (RLS) can be a cause of heightened brain activity and sleep fragmentation, which can manifest as tossing and turning. Some with RLS and dopamine agonist withdrawal symptoms may experience more periodic limb movements (PLMs), which also can mimic tossing and turning with even more body movements.
What interval is considered a normal amount of tossing and turning? I recently recorded myself sleeping (due to investigating chronic fatigue syndrome, unrefreshing sleep) and I saw myself sleeping for almost 8 hours but I was turning 180 degrees left to right every 15ish minutes for the entire 8 hours.
Some (non professional) tips that may help you get a more restful sleep. Incorporate some light/moderate exercise during the day. Walking, weight training, yoga, it doesn’t really matter. But it will help your body feel more tired at bedtime. Lower the temperature in your room slightly (if possible) - Cooler environments are more conducive for sleeping. And while I’m definitely more of a morning shower person, I can’t deny that a shower before bed can relax the muscles. So all in all - exercise, sleep in a cool room and try showering before bed. I hope this helps 🙂
I have had fragmented sleep for a long time. I sleep 4h quite well but then I wake up every 20mins. I have done every trick in the book; quit my job and go on holiday for months now, go to bed & wake up exactly at the same time day to day, no substance use, meditation & jooga, I am very active during the day time (in crazy good physical shape, six pack etc), eating healthy, fasting & calming down hours before bedtime, using very dim red lights after sun set. I spend all my days outside. No phone or internet at evenings.
My HRV during sleep has improved 3 folds. But the sleep fragmentation is still there. My watch gives me an average score of 1.3 on scale 1-5. Avg adult is 3.2.
The only solution is to sleep next to my girlfriend, I can score 4.8/5.0 continuity. But I live alone. I am pretty helpless with this.
Telling you all this because I know it's a trauma thing from my past marriage. Maybe it helps someone else to hear this.
I have anxiety as I injured my back and I have been stressing and have had anxiety for past 2 months and my sleep is like this for weeks and weeks and idk what to do
I’m on my 7th night without ropinirole after gradually tapering down the dose. For the last week I’ve been constantly waking up throughout the night and tossing and turning all night. Could this be a withdrawal symptom?
The rebound/withdrawal effect from coming off dopamine agonists like ropinirole in the treatment of restless legs syndrome (RLS) can be a cause of heightened brain activity and sleep fragmentation, which can manifest as tossing and turning. Some with RLS and dopamine agonist withdrawal symptoms may experience more periodic limb movements (PLMs), which also can mimic tossing and turning with even more body movements.
Thank you!
What interval is considered a normal amount of tossing and turning? I recently recorded myself sleeping (due to investigating chronic fatigue syndrome, unrefreshing sleep) and I saw myself sleeping for almost 8 hours but I was turning 180 degrees left to right every 15ish minutes for the entire 8 hours.
Some (non professional) tips that may help you get a more restful sleep.
Incorporate some light/moderate exercise during the day. Walking, weight training, yoga, it doesn’t really matter. But it will help your body feel more tired at bedtime.
Lower the temperature in your room slightly (if possible) - Cooler environments are more conducive for sleeping. And while I’m definitely more of a morning shower person, I can’t deny that a shower before bed can relax the muscles.
So all in all - exercise, sleep in a cool room and try showering before bed.
I hope this helps 🙂
Generally good advice for most people. Thanks.
That's a great question. I imagine there are studies of healthy individuals that measure typical body movement patterns but I am not privy to them.
So we are actually sleeping, just very lightly?
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@succinator6943 I toss and turn for what feels like 30 minutes, I check my phone and 2 1/2 hours went by
It's painful to me