whats up CGB! I played you and ended up in one of your videos. I tried hard to beat you, it was a good game and you walked out with the win. It was a fun game!
Patrick dying while he plays a deck so comically short on lands the player had to be mana weaving is absolutely the best MTG content made on this platform.
I think this proves that there didn't need to be any mana weaving. Games were just slower back then and missing a land drop or two wasnt the end of the world, especially for a good control deck. Otherwise Patrick shouldn't have won so much, and even at the end, he says there was prob a line to win the game he lost. This heavily implies there was no need to mana weave to successfully pilot the deck to victory.
This is basically right. I actually asked Zak back in the day about Bertrand's deck and the ability to block factories, juggernauts, etc was a real factor.
This, is without a doubt, the GREATEST in-person magic gameplay video I have ever seen! Two old friends, playing some highlights from the past, and just having FUN. No crazy free spells, pushed mythics, or “broken” combos. Yes, the power level is high, but it all comes down 2/2s trying to beat down before the control player finds a removal spell. This is the best!! Keep doing these videos!!
@@TheTinmanstudios what are you going to Black Lotus out? A Sierra Angel at best! It’s not like modern vintage where you can Black Lotus Beseech the Mirror and win on turn one. Sure, these cards were extremely busted, but within the context of the time, they were just tools in the deck. Even Patrick has said in the past; “You would trade your Mox Ruby for a Shivan Dragon, because what is the Ruby going to do for you? Besides pay for the fire breathing on the Dragon you just got” (paraphrasing of course).
Best content in the MtG game. Most fun I have had watching gameplay since the SCG tour. Wish you guys could put our weekly resleevables but I understand with how much work goes in to each video that isn't realistic.
Agreed, this takes quite a while to shoot and edit for sure. The end result is very high quality though, if anything I love that, despite having to wait a while on an upload, it is always worth it.
This is Magic! Bringing the past to life with games and gathering. Thank you, as a fan of the game playing now, getting to see how the game was played in the past is truly a privilege.
Not sure if Patrick should have sideboarded out Icy Manipulator if he's playing both Winter Orb and Howling Mine. Being able to turn these two cards on and off on demand could be quite relevant.
Okay, I love this format, and it's a fantastic addition to show. The gameplay was great, and I love sticking to the appropriate printings for the time. Very excited for more of these and for the Mirage episode, which is another of my favorite sets!
I've always loved this duo going back to their SCG weekend coverage days.... glad they're doing something way cooler than that because I can't tolerate modern magic anymore. Love you guys in this setting. Please keep on keepin' on.
This video was super fun! Love seeing you guys jam and would love more gameplay content, especially stuff like this with formats that don't exist anymore.
I would love to see them rebuild these decks with the cards that were available at the time, so we can see how deck building philosophy has changed over time.
Just found this (after a couple of weeks of binging your traditional videos). This was absolutely amazing. You two have so much knowledge, and matching that with paper gameplay is just the best thing ever. Can't wait to watch the rest and all the future ones. Thank you for your work and this great content!
So happy two gentlemen who impacted my return to magic has such great content! Thank you for your time. I started playing magic really early on its release. Loved it so much that dad would pick up starter decks mainly and some packs every 2-4 weeks and my friends would go ham. We had no store or really any true guide except the booklets that come in the decks. So we instead came up with spell library and mana library. As some of us would have 100-300 cards but only about 20-30 lands you could decide to pull from whichever library you wanted during the draw stage. The huge format defining card was Geas liege, so you could cut your opponent off of non green spells. What a world :) gave all my cards (maybe alpha/beta +) away when I joined the service in 2000 and I truly hope they found a good home over the years. Always love and laughter in your lives and cheers friends :)
I got back into magic recently after a 30 year hiatus, started when I was 7 in 1994 and have been binge watching this amazing series. This brings back so many memories and also reminds me that I loved the game for the ideas, friends, "what ifs." Thank god MTG improved though, the game is light years ahead of this now lol
@43:53 Patrick misses the savage play of activating Library and untapping it with Ley Druid and then tapping it to draw again before the first ability resolves. LoA only requires you to have 7 cards in hand when the ability is activated, not when it resolves, so you can get extra draws out of it with the Druid (which is why it's there I'm sure).
I don't think that would've worked in '94. iirc at that time they used the batch system, which was similar to the stack except for a few rules, one of which was that, after both players passed priority, no new effects could be added onto the batch. So there would be no window in between the druid's ability resolving and the library ability where you could activate library again.
I really like the idea of having complete transcripts of matches deep in tournaments, even going beyond having all turns and cards drawn/played, with notes on what is being played around. It is great for understanding how strong players play their decks, more chess-style coverage is really valuable in my opinion for players that want to advance their skill.
As much fun as this must have been for you guys to do this was incredible to watch. Also I love how this podcast is allowing me to appreciate a very deep history from magic that to some degree I have never been able to access.
Really enjoy the format. There has been plenty of discussion about these old tournaments by people like Michael Flores in the past on his podcast but nothing that really lives on TH-cam. Also, two friends playing old magic decks is just fun.
As a player who played during this period this video was the best thing ever. In addition to your mock tournaments, I'd love to see block constructed games in the future
Love this!!! One minor feedback - the fact that Ced is looking LEFT and Patrick is looking RIGHT is opposite how they are sitting on the overhead cam... it was disorienting and confusing until I figured it out. :) Request would be to switch it so it matches... Patrick looking right and sitting on the left side, and Cedric vice versa.
Looking forward to this! I remember attending ProTour #2 (Queen Mary, Long Beach, CA 1996) and getting both Zach & Bertrand to autograph a black-bordered Japanese Swords to Plowshares I had just opened at a sealed sided event. Great memories!
Love this. My only complaint is that the cameras for the player headshots are oriented reverse of the battlefield overhead shot, very disoriented when you cut between them.
This was an amazing episode guys. Always love your gameplay and banter and looking forward to seeing more. Also, shout out to Mirage/Visions/Weatherlight. That block and Rath block following it are some of my favorite in all of Magic's history.
LOVED this episode. Constructive feedback: during the gameplay sequence, flip the directions y'all are facing so it makes sense with the top-down view. I was so confused a few times until I started paying attention to your hands in the top-down view. 😛
Crazy that you guys actually made this video. its been so many years since this happened and its such an interesting time in gaming history. I really appreciate the effort to make this
I used to play with Cedric at Game Traders outside of Cleveland (Chagrin Falls?) Back in the day. Fires of Yavimaya/Blastoderm was the big thing in standard.
Funnily enough, I was looking for exactly this sort of video just a few days ago and could not find any. Seems like you read my mind, thank you so much!
This is the best mtg content Ive ever seen. :D Game 5, shouldn’t Patrick get mana burned from the Mana Drain on the Fireball for 6? The turn he played Lotus Stasis.
In Game 2 you guys stated that mana burn exists and then in Game 3 at around 1:10:30 in video you missed it when Patrick's Mana Drain countered Cedric's Psionic Blast in Patrick's combat phase. Mana Drain adds those 3 mana in the next main phase and that means Patrick's second main phase and Patrick just passed with 3 colorless mana in pool... Also in Game 5 huge Mana Drain on Cedric's Fireball for 6 and Patrick playing only Stasis and passing, this is very serious business and all 😆
That open card holder in the tournament pic about made my brain melt. A page consisting of 2 Black Lotus, 2 Mox Rubies and 4 Mox Sapphires is just crazy. I bet the ninth pocket that you can't see was probably something dumb like a Timetwister or Ancestral Recall.
Argothian Pixies is still played in Old School today. It's relevant vs. Mishra's Factory, Juggernaut, Su-Chi, Triskelion, or whatever Mishra's Workshop is doing.
"You can arrange your cards any time before the Orb is put onto the battlefield", Cedric did it with chaos orb on the stack, so it wasn't on the battlefield
Hearing about this tournament and all of the details around it just gives me a certain type of nostalgia, it's so fun to hear about the sort of naivety around what is now a much larger game. The call-in registration for the World Championship, the magazine coverage, the wild competitor stories, all of it just gives off such a fun old-school vibe that just can't be replicated with the size of the franchise now. Even just the breakdowns of the decks, technically sound but unoptimized due to the nature of the game at the time is so interesting to see with hindsight. It reminds me of the first Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship in 2003, where the US competitors for the video game division where selected via a mail-in sweepstakes through Shonen Jump Magazine. Seeing the magazine coverage for tournaments like these really gives off this more insular vibe that makes the community feel more close-knit, centered around these smaller publications that were the only big source of info before the internet took off in the way it did. Thank you for making these videos, I'm a newcomer to MTG and am mostly interested in it as a sort of spectator sport, so breakdowns like this are appreciated and the level of detail and research put into the production is impressive.
It's so wild to see decks with all these power cards in them! I've never seen a real Black Lotus in my life. I started playing late '96/ early '97, and played off-and-on through '04. I'm sure I went to over 100 FNMs, and I saw card binders in school now and then. Just wild to see the decks in this video
My favorite episode so far! But that's not how you flip a Chaos Orb - it's supposed to turn vertically, not horizontally (or to be randomly thrown in the general direction of your opponent :)
@@TheResleevables In Old School, Orb is targeted and you have to flip it onto the targeted card. It's also how we determine who wins in tied matches that go to time.
the game has Cedric on the left and Patrick on the right, but their close ups are being shot with Cedric on right and Patrick on the right. Really threw me off for a minute
For me, this is THE SHOW I have waited for 💙
That's what i'm saying!!!
Also, what up CGB? Love your channel.
Came here after watching your Esper video from just now, thanks for telling about this channel! Both your content are the best, thanks!
Both of your channels are the best!
Followed CGB here. Subbed. Love the content!!
whats up CGB! I played you and ended up in one of your videos. I tried hard to beat you, it was a good game and you walked out with the win. It was a fun game!
Patrick dying while he plays a deck so comically short on lands the player had to be mana weaving is absolutely the best MTG content made on this platform.
I think this proves that there didn't need to be any mana weaving. Games were just slower back then and missing a land drop or two wasnt the end of the world, especially for a good control deck. Otherwise Patrick shouldn't have won so much, and even at the end, he says there was prob a line to win the game he lost. This heavily implies there was no need to mana weave to successfully pilot the deck to victory.
The Pixie is also a very good blocker for Mishra's factory. And that was a huge card back then
Yep. And Juggernaut which was a huge threat at the time.
@@85mcarnold yes, Juggernaut was also my first thought
This is basically right. I actually asked Zak back in the day about Bertrand's deck and the ability to block factories, juggernauts, etc was a real factor.
You don't fear the extremely slow Mishra's Factory in 1994.
Su chi also
In my fireball collection I have cyrille's fireball from his deck from worlds 94.
You would. Also, I’m quite sad I have never received a Dan Anschutz Fireball.
@@85mcarnold gotta play on person or trade/buy. I'm just around 1000 I've haded out now.
Man i can just listen to Cedric and Patrick banter for hours, and the gameplay is just the best. MORE OF THIS!
This, is without a doubt, the GREATEST in-person magic gameplay video I have ever seen! Two old friends, playing some highlights from the past, and just having FUN. No crazy free spells, pushed mythics, or “broken” combos. Yes, the power level is high, but it all comes down 2/2s trying to beat down before the control player finds a removal spell. This is the best!! Keep doing these videos!!
You're telling me Black Lotus isn't a crazy free spell and Channel/Fireball isn't a broken combo?
@@TheTinmanstudios what are you going to Black Lotus out? A Sierra Angel at best! It’s not like modern vintage where you can Black Lotus Beseech the Mirror and win on turn one. Sure, these cards were extremely busted, but within the context of the time, they were just tools in the deck. Even Patrick has said in the past; “You would trade your Mox Ruby for a Shivan Dragon, because what is the Ruby going to do for you? Besides pay for the fire breathing on the Dragon you just got” (paraphrasing of course).
Props to the editor for putting in the alpha Elvish Archers so some zoomer viewers think it's a 1/2.
Best MtG video on TH-cam. Howling at how funny these games are. Classic Magic is so good, man.
Best content in the MtG game. Most fun I have had watching gameplay since the SCG tour. Wish you guys could put our weekly resleevables but I understand with how much work goes in to each video that isn't realistic.
Agreed, this takes quite a while to shoot and edit for sure. The end result is very high quality though, if anything I love that, despite having to wait a while on an upload, it is always worth it.
Unbelievably great having these two, together, talk about and play Magic.
This video and the entire channel are pure gold. Thanks for putting this together. ❤
already happy that yall r putting wayback links in the description of these.
This was awesome! Patrick's excitement after locking up game 5 says it all about how much fun this was.
Cgb mentioned yall and I couldn't be happier I love your guys content
Watching people cast Serra Angel with Moxen is everything I want in a magic competition
This is Magic! Bringing the past to life with games and gathering. Thank you, as a fan of the game playing now, getting to see how the game was played in the past is truly a privilege.
Check out "Old School Magic" there are still many people who play with the old cards now.
So happy to see this new series, I've been craving more stories from this era
Not sure if Patrick should have sideboarded out Icy Manipulator if he's playing both Winter Orb and Howling Mine. Being able to turn these two cards on and off on demand could be quite relevant.
I love the concept of this video. I started playing in 94 but without the internet had little information on this tournament.
Okay, I love this format, and it's a fantastic addition to show. The gameplay was great, and I love sticking to the appropriate printings for the time. Very excited for more of these and for the Mirage episode, which is another of my favorite sets!
The banter between you two is the greatest.
Also thanks for taking me back.
Can't wait to see more OG battles.
I've always loved this duo going back to their SCG weekend coverage days.... glad they're doing something way cooler than that because I can't tolerate modern magic anymore. Love you guys in this setting. Please keep on keepin' on.
Great stuff! I can't help but laugh at how the cuts between the overhead view and the shot/reverse shot during gameplay breaks the 180 rule so hard
This video was super fun! Love seeing you guys jam and would love more gameplay content, especially stuff like this with formats that don't exist anymore.
I would love to see them rebuild these decks with the cards that were available at the time, so we can see how deck building philosophy has changed over time.
Best game of paper magic I've seen, please keep doing this style tournaments through the ages.
Absolutely incredible idea.
I loved everything about this video, The history and the gameplay were both amazing, can't wait for more of this!
havent played or watched magic gameplay almost at all for 2 years but this is incredible and I can't wait for more! history *is* fun!
Old magic is absolutely wild. Can’t wait to see more
Just found this (after a couple of weeks of binging your traditional videos). This was absolutely amazing. You two have so much knowledge, and matching that with paper gameplay is just the best thing ever. Can't wait to watch the rest and all the future ones. Thank you for your work and this great content!
So happy two gentlemen who impacted my return to magic has such great content! Thank you for your time.
I started playing magic really early on its release. Loved it so much that dad would pick up starter decks mainly and some packs every 2-4 weeks and my friends would go ham. We had no store or really any true guide except the booklets that come in the decks. So we instead came up with spell library and mana library.
As some of us would have 100-300 cards but only about 20-30 lands you could decide to pull from whichever library you wanted during the draw stage. The huge format defining card was Geas liege, so you could cut your opponent off of non green spells. What a world :)
gave all my cards (maybe alpha/beta +) away when I joined the service in 2000 and I truly hope they found a good home over the years. Always love and laughter in your lives and cheers friends :)
I got back into magic recently after a 30 year hiatus, started when I was 7 in 1994 and have been binge watching this amazing series. This brings back so many memories and also reminds me that I loved the game for the ideas, friends, "what ifs." Thank god MTG improved though, the game is light years ahead of this now lol
One of the best duos to ever do it! Good to see y'all aging well and playing table Magic.
@43:53 Patrick misses the savage play of activating Library and untapping it with Ley Druid and then tapping it to draw again before the first ability resolves. LoA only requires you to have 7 cards in hand when the ability is activated, not when it resolves, so you can get extra draws out of it with the Druid (which is why it's there I'm sure).
I don't think that would've worked in '94. iirc at that time they used the batch system, which was similar to the stack except for a few rules, one of which was that, after both players passed priority, no new effects could be added onto the batch. So there would be no window in between the druid's ability resolving and the library ability where you could activate library again.
@@dismasthepenitent569They played the episode with current rules
This is amazing. Already loved the resleevables. What a great idea. I love seeing those old cards again
Tribute to oldschool couldnt have been any better. Great job Gents 🎉
Great new type of video. It's nice to see gameplay!
I really like the idea of having complete transcripts of matches deep in tournaments, even going beyond having all turns and cards drawn/played, with notes on what is being played around. It is great for understanding how strong players play their decks, more chess-style coverage is really valuable in my opinion for players that want to advance their skill.
this was the most fun episode ive watched so far - Patrick falling out his chair was so good
As much fun as this must have been for you guys to do this was incredible to watch. Also I love how this podcast is allowing me to appreciate a very deep history from magic that to some degree I have never been able to access.
Two of those games would have been lost to burn back in the day. Crazy stuff. Great showcase!
Awesome episode, love back-and-forth game play banter
Best magic content on YT easily. Love this episode! Can’t wait for more games
Really enjoy the format. There has been plenty of discussion about these old tournaments by people like Michael Flores in the past on his podcast but nothing that really lives on TH-cam. Also, two friends playing old magic decks is just fun.
Thank you very much for the episode ! This is a really cool format, maybe the best on TH-cam I've seen this far !
loved it! thank you guys! very fun content
As a player who played during this period this video was the best thing ever. In addition to your mock tournaments, I'd love to see block constructed games in the future
Love this!!! One minor feedback - the fact that Ced is looking LEFT and Patrick is looking RIGHT is opposite how they are sitting on the overhead cam... it was disorienting and confusing until I figured it out. :) Request would be to switch it so it matches... Patrick looking right and sitting on the left side, and Cedric vice versa.
What a great format! This way we understand way better the history behind the decks/tournaments!
Looking forward to this! I remember attending ProTour #2 (Queen Mary, Long Beach, CA 1996) and getting both Zach & Bertrand to autograph a black-bordered Japanese Swords to Plowshares I had just opened at a sealed sided event. Great memories!
I can’t wait to see you play the old tournament decks.
I played from 94-2006 and now play a lot of 93/94 old school.
Love this. My only complaint is that the cameras for the player headshots are oriented reverse of the battlefield overhead shot, very disoriented when you cut between them.
Was looking to see if I needed to post this. It was killing me. Content is amazing, that is the important part of course.
This was an amazing episode guys. Always love your gameplay and banter and looking forward to seeing more.
Also, shout out to Mirage/Visions/Weatherlight. That block and Rath block following it are some of my favorite in all of Magic's history.
LOVED this episode.
Constructive feedback: during the gameplay sequence, flip the directions y'all are facing so it makes sense with the top-down view. I was so confused a few times until I started paying attention to your hands in the top-down view. 😛
This video was so much fun! Getting to see THE two big combos from back in the day (Channel/Fireball and Stasis/Kismet) was so cool!
I really don't like the repetitive background music during gameplay. Thank you for all the research that went into this, loved the rest of it.
Absolutely loved this video. Keep them coming!
I put this episode of for a while for some reason…
I LOVE this.
Almost more than the set-episodes.
Stellar content guys. ✨
Crazy that you guys actually made this video. its been so many years since this happened and its such an interesting time in gaming history. I really appreciate the effort to make this
Gold🎉 1:41:50 !! I just found yall after you stopped showing up on Google podcasts. Yall are grood
I used to play with Cedric at Game Traders outside of Cleveland (Chagrin Falls?) Back in the day.
Fires of Yavimaya/Blastoderm was the big thing in standard.
Funnily enough, I was looking for exactly this sort of video just a few days ago and could not find any. Seems like you read my mind, thank you so much!
In game 4, the guy had Siren's call / Stasis combo in the hand the whole game and never casted it. He need's to read the cards :D
Looking forward to the 1995 tournament recap, good job gentlemen
Thanks for an amazing video. These games were so much fun
Incredibly excited to look into magic history!
Great concept :-) remember Reading the article back then, but have never seen the decks in action
And not to forget, you guys made my day!
Hands down the coolest MtG video I've ever watched!
I love this and I cant wait to love the rest of this series.
love the Clark idle on Cedric in the intro that's great. animation feels very KOF and i am a fan
This is the best mtg content Ive ever seen. :D
Game 5, shouldn’t Patrick get mana burned from the Mana Drain on the Fireball for 6? The turn he played Lotus Stasis.
Yes, I think he would have died from mana burn under old rules.
We're playing under current rules. If we were playing with mana burn, turns would have been played differently
In Game 2 you guys stated that mana burn exists and then in Game 3 at around 1:10:30 in video you missed it when Patrick's Mana Drain countered Cedric's Psionic Blast in Patrick's combat phase. Mana Drain adds those 3 mana in the next main phase and that means Patrick's second main phase and Patrick just passed with 3 colorless mana in pool... Also in Game 5 huge Mana Drain on Cedric's Fireball for 6 and Patrick playing only Stasis and passing, this is very serious business and all 😆
You guys are awesome!!! 1st time viewer, instant subscriber. I miss the simple days of seeing these cards played at my LGS
I adore all videos on your channel. As a newer player I love to get the insight you provide for these almost forgotten years of mtg
That open card holder in the tournament pic about made my brain melt. A page consisting of 2 Black Lotus, 2 Mox Rubies and 4 Mox Sapphires is just crazy. I bet the ninth pocket that you can't see was probably something dumb like a Timetwister or Ancestral Recall.
Love the gameplay. Hope you guys do it more. My bro used to stasis kismet me all the time.
Loved this episode! Hope to see more videos of this type alongside the set videos
Great idea, great production - thanks and looking forward for the next one :)
This is so good. Can't wait for more.
So cool to see these two decks in action!!
The goats have blessed us with more content, as usual being the best thing going in mtg
Argothian Pixies is still played in Old School today.
It's relevant vs. Mishra's Factory, Juggernaut, Su-Chi, Triskelion, or whatever Mishra's Workshop is doing.
1:07:08 not a legal move by Cedric there. It’s actually one of the only rulings for Chaos Orb listed on Gatherer.
"You can arrange your cards any time before the Orb is put onto the battlefield", Cedric did it with chaos orb on the stack, so it wasn't on the battlefield
Loved this! And Rochester, NY even got mentioned!
Hearing about this tournament and all of the details around it just gives me a certain type of nostalgia, it's so fun to hear about the sort of naivety around what is now a much larger game. The call-in registration for the World Championship, the magazine coverage, the wild competitor stories, all of it just gives off such a fun old-school vibe that just can't be replicated with the size of the franchise now. Even just the breakdowns of the decks, technically sound but unoptimized due to the nature of the game at the time is so interesting to see with hindsight.
It reminds me of the first Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship in 2003, where the US competitors for the video game division where selected via a mail-in sweepstakes through Shonen Jump Magazine. Seeing the magazine coverage for tournaments like these really gives off this more insular vibe that makes the community feel more close-knit, centered around these smaller publications that were the only big source of info before the internet took off in the way it did.
Thank you for making these videos, I'm a newcomer to MTG and am mostly interested in it as a sort of spectator sport, so breakdowns like this are appreciated and the level of detail and research put into the production is impressive.
Informative and entertaining video, thank you very much!
These two playing Magic together is just the best
Getting to do the full Stasis lock made me so happy, prisoning people out is the most fun thing in Magic for me
It's so wild to see decks with all these power cards in them! I've never seen a real Black Lotus in my life.
I started playing late '96/ early '97, and played off-and-on through '04. I'm sure I went to over 100 FNMs, and I saw card binders in school now and then. Just wild to see the decks in this video
Great show. Someone needs to call a judge for those serendib triggers.
My favorite episode so far! But that's not how you flip a Chaos Orb - it's supposed to turn vertically, not horizontally (or to be randomly thrown in the general direction of your opponent :)
Seriously, 3 Orb activations, 0 kills...
That's how we flip Chaos Orb in The Resleevables very serious gaming studio :)
@@TheResleevables In Old School, Orb is targeted and you have to flip it onto the targeted card. It's also how we determine who wins in tied matches that go to time.
Amazing video. Keep up the great work.
the game has Cedric on the left and Patrick on the right, but their close ups are being shot with Cedric on right and Patrick on the right. Really threw me off for a minute
Oh, I remember reading the tournament report back in the day.
I died at "You or me?"
A friggin pro, that Patrick
Very cool episode.
This was my dream growing up. It was just so hard to get product in New England prior to revised so the power was few and far between.
Anyone remembering The Puzzling from The Duelist? Loved those.