Pro Tour: Columbus (1996) l The Resleevables: Tournament Edition #5 l Magic: The Gathering Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Cedric Phillips and Patrick Sullivan are here for their deep dive on Magic's third Pro Tour - Pro Tour: Columbus (1996)!
The duo dissect the event, the players, and the finalists' decks before replaying the finals themselves to see who the true winner should be between Olle Rade and Sean Fleischman!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
3:45 Facts
30:55 Decks
44:54 Game 1
1:03:21 Game 2
1:09:20 Sideboarding
1:11:17 Game 3
1:24:49 Game 4
1:35:06 Game 5
1:41:07 Wrap Up
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Articles:
Pro Tour: Columbus video coverage ( • Magic: the Gathering -... )
Pro Tour: Columbus press release (www.mtghistory.info/Docs/Press...)
Pro Tour: Columbus final standings (web.archive.org/web/200810110...)
The Duelist Sideboard: Red, White, & Boom (Coverage) (archive.org/details/duelistsi...)
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Decklists:
Olle Rade - R/G Aggro (1st Place)
4 Deadly Insect
4 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Giant Trap Door Spider
4 Woolly Spider
2 Orcish Cannoneers
2 Storm Shaman
1 Gorilla Shaman
2 Giant Growth
4 Incinerate
1 Jokulhaups
2 Lava Burst
2 Lodestone Bauble
3 Pillage
1 Pyroclasm
3 Stormbind
4 Urza's Bauble
7 Forest
7 Mountain
4 Karplusan Forest
Sideboard:
2 Essence Filter
2 Pyroblast
2 Pyroclasm
2 Vexing Arcanix
1 Anarchy
1 Icy Manipulator
1 Jester's Cap
1 Jokulhaups
1 Monsoon
1 Primitive Justice
1 Zuran Orb
Sean Fleischman - Four-Color Control (2nd Place)
2 Blinking Spirit
2 Ivory Gargoyle
3 Counterspell
3 Disenchant
2 Force of Will
3 Incinerate
2 Jokulhaups
1 Lim-Dul's Vault
2 Mind Warp
3 Power Sink
2 Pyroclasm
2 Stone Rain
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Zuran Orb
6 Plains
5 Mountain
4 Island
4 Adarkar Wastes
3 Sulfurous Springs
3 Thawing Glaciers
2 Kjeldoran Outpost
2 Underground River
Sideboard:
3 Hydroblast
2 Pyroblast
2 Pyroclasm
1 Circle of Protection: Black
1 Circle of Protection: Green
1 Circle of Protection: White
1 Disenchant
1 Jester's Cap
1 Shatter
1 Stone Rain
1 Swords to Plowshares
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Credits:
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Produced by: Cedric Phillips and Jonathan Choi
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Your long form videos on Magic’s set and tournament history have helped me calm down and de-stress more than you guys know. Thanks for all of the hard work.
Last year I was dealing with a major build of anxiety! Never had this issue in my life. Diving back into MTG and watchn content helped me calm certain trigger. Cedric and Patrick have an amazing connection and the humor is 😂! Thank u guys
Same!
Hey guys, yet another awesome episode! I was at this PT, my first. Traveled there from Scotland. I went 2-4. Played against an insane line-up. Rd 1, Matt Place, 2 Darwin Mess(Castle), Henry Stern, George Baxter and Bertrand Lestree, plus a normal, like me, Shannon Hill from memory. Not many will know these actual Legends of the game. Patrick will for sure.
Don’t think you mentioned it, but you had to play all 3 games, even if 0-2 down. Due to lack of technology, you’d likely have to get paired with another 0-3, 1-2, 2-1 etc.
I played 12 Stone Rains, 4 Deadly Insect, 4 Balduvian Horde etc. Deck was probably great, I was terrible 😂
The whole PT experience back then was incredible. We (all the PT players) wore a big purple rosette. Kids would walk up asking if you wanted to play. Richard Garfield had a booth for chatting to him. I won a side event, and got entry into sealed deck tourney. Unlimited starter, 2 Beta boosters. So much going on. Special moments, special event.
Keep up the fantastic work guys. Gary C
Thanks for you story, I really enjoyed it, I started playing at that time although I just missed out on these 'easy' PT qualifications, I finally made it a few years later
I did play against a Gary from Scotland once, at a GP London in I think '97 or 98, it might have been you...
Thanks for sharing :)
I was the judge at Millennium Games, the game store where Dennis Bentley played magic regularly after his Nationals win. He would often just show up with a home brew deck for a standard PTQ I was judging, and end up playing for the top 8 or better. Opponents would ask if we knew who he was, and the employees always would say "Well of course, he's US Nationals Champion Dennis Bentley". He got quite a few wins from opponents being afraid of an old cowboy out for one last ride, but it also exemplifies how different brewing and deck building was back then, and how it still translated to modern internet magic.
Sadly, he passed away in 2017 from complications from Kidney disease. RIP DDrifter
Thanks for sharing: I have fond memories at Millenium, though from a more recent era, was not aware of the store's connection to the history of Magic
Cedric will never get tired of saying the phrase “Pro Tour: Speed Dial”
There are a handful of people still obsessed with this format. I've been brewing “Alice” decks since 2018. I continue to be amazed by the strategic depth of the format (despite the shallow pool of playables).
Olle Råde is currently winning and consistantly top-8ing oldschool 93/94 tournaments left and right
What? People are playing 93/94 tournaments in 2024?
For the scoreboard, it’d be interesting if you noted upsets vs. upholding the historical results. Or maybe a second scoreboard. It’s cool to track how both hosts do for sure but especially as you do more of it it’d be interesting to see at a glance how frequently you change history with the replay.
I was really hoping for a version of the Street Fighter intro where Cedric wins, since he won the previous matchup.
Not that it matters, and this has prob been said already, but with Urza's Baub, your hand zone is visible to you at all times so you definitely know which card your opponent knows
These are top tier. Sometimes the music can get repetitive though. But genuinely need even more of this. So cool to see old decks.
To relate to the amateur championship: competitive smash bros local scenes often keep track of their top 10, and anyone who has never been it can participate in the “Arcadia”. These were always hype and fun and it’s cool to see the same thing used to happen in Magic
Cedric, my man. Have played you 3 times. Onslaught sealed in CLE, twice in C-Bus. You played Goblims (beat me) and Second Sunrise (got you on that one😂). Great show guys. Keep it up.
Before watching the match: How on earth did Gruul Spiders take down the tournament?
After watching the match: How on earth could Gruul Spiders ever lose?
Ah, my favorite podcast to listen to while at work. Thank you!
THANK YOU Cedric for acknowledging Pikula! Yes, he dang sure should be in the PT Hall of Fame.
His name is more recognisable than many on the list
HOF! And he a super cool guy. Still have a Dead Guy Ale deck. Never played him, got to shake his hand. Cedrick’s awesome too. Never met Pat.
I can't wait for you guys to talk about the ProsBloom and Tolarian Academy pro tour decks
I love how bubbly Cedric is and how sweaty Patrick is. Nice dynamic, because both are trying just as hard but do it very differently.
This Pro Tour seemed prime for a stormbind ponza list. Wild Growth, dork with stone rain and thermokarst seems legit
Ready to strap in for a long one! Woohoo
Discovered the channel through this video, great stuff guys!
27 years since I've seen a Vexing Arcanix activation. What a time to be alive
Not gonna lie, I miss when pro tours had absolute piles in the top 8 and you had to struggle to put together 75 cards that did anything.
Cedric! I caught your advert on BoshNRoll a week ago! Ive started from the beginning and Im already to Mirage!
If I recall correctly, part of the reason thawing glaciers used to be good was because if you activated it in an end step it wouldn't return to hand until the next end step, so you could get two activations from it before having to replay it.
I'm here from Bosh n rolls channel, excited to watch this!
As someone who watched essentially every single moment of coverage these two did during the many many years of SCG tournaments the fact this channel has been around for a year'ish and the YT algorithm didn't let me know is crazy. Your ads on BoshNRoll is what got me here, so at least in my case they definitely worked. I started at the Beta episode last week and am on Chronicles now. Amazing stuff. Also has inspired me to pull together a draft group where we are going to draft each set(digitally of course) in order of release, going to be a wild(janky) ride but I'm looking forward to it.
Another amazing episode as always. Watching my favorite mtg duo playing games from a bygone era is extremely enjoyable. I assumed I was remembering Thawing Glaciers timing, and I was going to comment at the same moment you caught it. Which I just though was a funny coincidence worth mentioning. haha.
17:41 Olle was pretty regular in the Old School scene for a while and then in Premodern. He’s done a couple interviews on the All Tings Considered podcast you can check out.
team Egghead games! that was my local game store in Columbus, only a few miles from where Origins is held. Those were the days!
47:17 would like to point out that both players actually get to know what card was randomly revealed with bauble.
Egghead games is Columbus Ohio and where I first learned to play. Alex Borteh future worlds champ and Kenny Tsung played there for sure
Yes, you can play Thawing Glaciers in commander. Great with Deserted Temple and other land untappers, also combines well with Oracle of Mul Daya, Courser, and cards which allow you to see/play the top of your deck.
29:29 - I'm pretty sure at this point Mike Long would have either been in Harrisonburg,VA or Charlottesville, VA. The store he co-owned in the late 90s/early 2000s, "The End Game Center", was in Charlottesville, VA.
I went to school with Sean's brother, and that's how I got into Magic. Sean used to play a balance deck before it got restricted, and he would literally wipe the floor with us.
Wow, talking about Origins and the Amateur Championship brings back memories. I went for a few years in a row, like 2002-2005, and, I think it was in 2004, my friend who came with me to the convention won the Amateur Championship with Tooth and Nail, a deck we play-tested the night before at the hotel.
I won a PTQ leading into this tournament playing counterpost splashing stone rains and sideboard cards. It was such a weird format that was all about lands and interactive cards and the creatures were just trash tier.
We had ice age sealed deck PTQ's here or maybe even with some packs from whatever the current base set was... it was not so well defined back then and local organizers could do what they want or if they couldn't wotc had no ways to enforce the standard.
Thawing glaciers is minimally played in commander. After playing probably about 500 games of commander in the last 3 or so years at LGSs, i have seen a grand total of 2 in play, and one of those was in my own deck
Another episode of the best mtg content around, love my 🐐s
32:11 the reason that Ivory Gargoyle was so good is that it survived Jokulhaups. In a similar way that the Spiders were good because they survived Pyroclasm. As you mentioned earlier, there aren’t a lot of board wipes in Ice Age block and so the creatures that survived them were very powerful.
I went to school with Worth! Hilltoppers represent!
Good context seeing the games the decks had plans. I would love to see people try to build better decks from that format 😂
If Patrick knew how many lands he had in his deck calling plains every time was the best way to dodge Vexing Arcanix.
You guys have to make a T-Shirt, Count Sinkulla😂😂😂
I know we're still a ways away, but will you do Masters recaps in addition to Pro Tours? Some of those were bangers
I agree with Pat, I'm in heaven.
Pretty sure with the rules at the time you couldn’t respond to Power Sink with an Incinerate. Because PS was an interrupt which could only be responded to with other interrupts.
Yeah I think they're trying to play under current rules
@@jadegrace1312but why? Damage on the stack for example makes cards like blinking spirit much better. They are trying to see how the match would have played out, and by changing rules in ways that effect the match in a big way, seems against the whole point. Still was fun to watch tho, my only criticism
@@bumpasaurus487agree with everything you said. Certainly fun to watch, but playing by current rules just something minor that I think would be improved if they used the rules from back then.
Not quite sure though when damage on the stack was introduced at the time. Wasn’t that with 5th edition?
@@Leuber not sure when it was established, but I remember when it went away. Draft all stars like shock troops no longer were 2 for ones😢
@@bumpasaurus487 oh yeah, I sure remember playing Mogg Fanatics at the time!
Mono red was my Type II deck back then…
If you get to Pro Tour Yokohama and play Time Spiral Block constructed, I would be so happy.
I don't know if it's fixable based on the camera set-up, but unfortunately I find the gameplay segments of these almost unwatchably distracting due to the players facing the opposite way to their board states (i.e Patrick facing the right but his board state being on the opposite side in the board views). Otherwise I really like the content; is there any possible way this could be adjusted? Thanks, love your stuff otherwise!
Double that. I love them both and I love this show, but I guess they are also open to improvements like the ones mentioned above.
Would be an improvement
Can someone explain that steak story to me? I have no idea what the punchline was.
I think it’s that Worth is just really steady and good at dealing with things going wrong, which is kind of fitting after a career of fighting with Magic Online. But also I found it kind of a sad story so maybe I didn’t quite get it either?
i loved trap door spider so much as a kid; i had Deckmasters:Garfield vs Finkel, and it was terrible, but it just looked cool.
What patreon tier gets me 5 hour audio of you two moving cards between zones?
I remember getting wrecked by ivory gargoyle in a tournament around that time. I didn’t have that sweet Stormbind tech!
I was also wondering if anyone at this PT showed up with something like a B/U Necro control deck.
Necro, Brainstorm, Icy Manipulator, Zuran Orb, the Baubles (Lodestone especially cool with Zuran Orb to gain life and redraw those lands again, Arcane Denial, Dark Banishing, Zur’s Weirding (very cool with Necro because you don’t draw the cards), Soul Burns as finishers, Rituals, maybe some Knights or Abyssal Specters, maybe Demonic Consultation.
I guess a disadvantage is that you can’t Disk away the Necro and you don’t have Hymn, but then of course the other decks also aren’t as good.
I did have a white-black-blue aggro-control deck with Zur's Weirding around this time, but not with necro. the mana base was terrible but I made top 8 of a PTQ , but I lost in the semis against Bram Snepvangers because I misplayed.. Probably my first chance to qualify but I blew it
Olle still plays premodern mtg you can find a tournment game from a year ago playing elves
He’s hall of fame in my book too !
Riot Devils really putting in work here
I wasn't playing at the time but to me it seems that the purpose of Ivory Gargoyle was to survive a Jokulhaups.
yes
Obviously Olle won so who am I to argue, but looking at Ice Age and Alliances I can’t help but seeing some potential upgrades.
What about Phyrexian War Beast, a 3/4 for 3 (with a downside if it leaves play), that would surely be better than Storm Shaman? Yavimaya Ants is kinda like a green Ball Lightning that you can keep around for a few turns if it isn’t killed. Goblin Mutant even would be a pretty meta choice against all those Ivory Gargoyles, Blinking Spirits and Outpost tokens. Also why not put some Heart of Yavimayas instead of some spells (like Haups and the x spells). Finally Guerilla Tactics might be an acceptable deal 2 which can be cool against those Mind Warps or perhaps someone with Abyssal Specters?
I really like these videos, but you have to fix the cameras for the gameplay part. Because of the angle, my brain thinks that Cedric is in the right and Patrick is in the left when you go to the overhead cam.
I agree with Cedric 100% - Chris Pikula should be a Hall of Famer.
Only one problem. Reprint the reserved list!!! Hear hear!!!
control deck should have played brainstroms. glacier gives you the shuffle effect.
BRB picking up a playset of stormbind
2/3 spiders for the pro tour win!
On the Vexing Arcanis, Patrick should have named a basic land, no? It doesn't say "nonland" and he has 6 Mountains and 6 Plains. If he hits on a basic land, he doesn't take the damage, AND he gets closer to naturally drawing a Swords.
Judging FtW has a great 3 min Video on Urza's Bauble and why you know what card your opponent looked at
I know it’s been well documented that Olle’s deck is considered the “worst” deck to ever win a Pro Tour, but I think there’s something special here after watching these games. Everyone dreams of putting together a deck that just roasts the meta of a tournament with possible icing on the cake if everyone laughs at your plans. Was Olle the first to do this and was this more dramatic than anyone after? When someone or a team does this, should we say that they “Rade’d” the tournament?
As a note, while i know you are playing under current rules, if you were on the old rules with power sink being an interrupt, you couldnt have incinerated in response. You would have had to to tap out your mana
The. Woolly. Bully.
and the Pharaohs......
Definitely too aggressive on the Blinky in Game 1 and took needless damage when he'd already stabilized.
Why is everyone playing only 3 Swords to Plowshares????
2nd Glacier is good, 3rd does nothing. The whole etb and doesn't return until next cleanup makes it an every other turn search.
Tommy Cutlets!
Ken masters vs Clark Still!
Patrick’s going for that Red Dead Redemption 2 NPC look, I see
th-cam.com/video/5sSNPHMiXsg/w-d-xo.html I don't think you are allowed to cast incinerate while power sink is on the stack, it is an interrupt and you can only respond with other interupts or mana sources. Once it resolved you wouldn't have any mana to cast it. They didn't change the timing rules until 1999.
(Cedric) We're playing with current rules, not the old ones
@@TheResleevables Fair enough :) It does make Power Sink much worse than it was at the time though.
PS: Thanks for replying Cedric!!! Long time fan of your coverage :)
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Olle Råde didn't win PT Rome. I know this, because it was won by my country man Tommi Hovi.
That 4c deck is just begging for Wrath of God
I like where you've placed Marx on the shelf. Right next to all the other fairy tales and fantasy books.
Patrick not pushing the cards down the extra quarter centimeter to nestle up against the bottom of the sleeve is so unsatisfying it may as well be a Reddit page.
I can tell that Cedric is a secret Transphobe because he keeps dead naming Twitter.
I mean... You just did it too.
@@aidennoir597 thank you i will cancel myself
C’mon, this just isn’t a funny thing to joke about
(Cedric) If you thought this was a good joke, no you didn't
@@jennietsai1260Maybe it could be but this joke is just completely unfunny