This is very cool. I think you'll be impressed with what the community can do if you put your design out there for others to modify. $300 for the kit will turn a lot of people away. And you can see from other comments the design has room for refinement. While the kit money I'm sure is nice, a more open source approach could be utilized for boosting your channel and will pay bigger dividends in the future. Obviously I'm biased, because I want to one of the people modifying it. 😅 But there's the pitch
So cool!!! I have been wanting something like this. The only missing part is to use a framework display as a secondary monitor. There is a thread in the framework community named “HDMI controller board for display panel” that looks promising for this.
This is such a great project, also framework in generally seems really interesting. That stand gives me anxiety just looking at it though, but I do like the hanging option.
Thank you! And yeah, the stand has been the part that's had the most iterations. It's a delicate balance between portability and stability. I've made improvements since recording the video though, including adding a steel insert to the base that weighs it down considerably, and makes the connection with the aluminum neck stronger. That said, the one in the video is not as bad as it looks. The only time if tipped over was when I was filming the intro of this video in the park. But it was so windy that when I went to catch the computer, the wind tipped over my camera, tripod and everything, into the ground.
@@shamuclone thank you! And yeah, the custom metal parts are expensive at these very low volumes, unfortunately. It's a niche accessory for a niche product
I've had a Windows Surface and an ROG Z13 for programming, but also to take it as a sketchbook into a meeting with UI designers and hand it around. Some un-laptoppy workflows are possible when you change the form factor. Really like what you did with the airplane hanger design, with other tablet-like PCs they just fall onto the top of your hands in turbulences! Since you mentioned a version 2, here are some more ideas, basically just more standard hardware connectors ;) - Vesa mount connected to structural frame - hangers not built in, but as an addon to attach with standard screws (more easy for people to customise attachments) - ... that way it would be easy to attach a custom pen-holder, hangers including speakers, soft lights, usb cameras... all in the device orientations someone prefers - screw holes in the front or back to mount hinges or other ways of customizing the form factor - a carbon sheet as the central structural frame maybe? 😍 the acrylic cover looks great, but it doesnt transport heat that well Really nice project!
tldr: I'd love to choose a non framework screen for gaming. It doesn't look possible but can you clarify? And I'm also waiting for the height adjust version you talked about. I've done a lot of research on modding a 'laptop' to meet my needs more. This seems like the perhaps the coolest option, but I think I would wait for it to be height adjustable (which you said you are working on) and have one other reservation. This is close there are three main things I want. more monitor height, and portability, but also I'm hoping to choose my own screen/panel. I hear the framework screen is pretty smeary for gaming. I would love a way to use a VESA mountable portable monitor that screw in or some kind of clamp. When I have checked in the past there aren't many panels compatible with the frame work internal I think it's called edp connection. So I was thinking of going with a solution that works with one type c cable. The way the frame you made is it constrained to only being able to attach and balance the framework 3:2 13 inch panel? (I'd love to be able to choose a monitor of a slightly different size/aspect ratio. to have more portable gaming screens available. I think portable monitors cap at 17 inches I wouldn't expect or want to put on a desktop monitor. I think if the adjustable stand goes high enough for good posture with my torso, and the ability to put in my own screen I would surely be sold on it. This height might be hard to hit but the center of my desktop monitor is 20 inches high. Some other things I've also been looking at are sjpproducts Unimount that one looks like it should work with a whole framework laptop . I really like the magnetic thing for a usb hub that solves a problem of something else I was looking at, the new minifourm tablet that is high performance and refresh rate, but there is a problem usb hubs dangling down and a lack of ports. Also that tablet is a 2 in one that comes with a keyboard that might be useless unless I could find a way to wire it up.
Agreed, that'd be nice! Unfortunately for now, it'd have to be a third-party one, as Framework doesn't make one, and I wanted to get all-framework parts But I might look into it in the future. On the bright side If Framework releases a touchscreen compatible with the FW13, it should be compatible with this one as well.
This is inspiring, I've also been looking for something like this (laptop, but no keyboard in order to use my own, and with a more ergonomically-placed monitor) for some time. What is the battery life like, in your experience? Finally, good job with the chassis, but I'll be honest: the stand looks not only unstable, as another comment said, but also flimsy, maybe you should work on a sturdier version of that.
To add a constructive part to my criticism, I'll share the basic idea I had in mind when thinking about a similar device: start from the geometry of an iPad + SmartFolio ( = the iconic iPad case), make it the size of a laptop monitor, and mount the chassis on a slide on this smartfolio-like case, so that the monitor can be elevated (hopefully at an adjustable height). Even this looks unstable to me, because the chassis contains most of the weight, and you'd be elevating that weight at an angle, but at least this configuration would come with some geometric integrity
Thank you! And yeah, the stand has been the part that's had the most iterations. It's a delicate balance between portability and stability. I've made improvements since recording the video though, including adding a steel insert to the base that weighs it down considerably, and makes the connection with the aluminum neck stronger. That said, the one in the video is not as bad as it looks. The only time if tipped over was when I was filming the intro of this video in the park. But it was so windy that when I went to catch the computer, the wind tipped over my camera, tripod and everything, into the ground.
How much do you have to worry about damaging the screen when bringing it places? Considering this kind of setup myself, since I always use my bluetooth keyboard.
Not that much, since it always travels in the laptop compartment of my backpack or bike basket. I'm sure a laptop sleeve would work just as well. Though, I'd probably get one designed for a 15" laptop due to the thickness
I did, but it was a bit too bulky and I did get tired of carrying it everywhere. So now I've got a Lily58 that's similar to the Defy in layout (with fewer buttons) but with choc switches, so it's much more compact
It doesn't, it uses the Framework screen, which does not have touchscreen support. If they release one compatible with the FW13, it should be able to work on this though.
...and don't forget, without a touchscreen! But in seriousness, yeah, the main difference is that it can run applications that a regular computer can, and it can be repaired and upgraded. But other than that, yup!
Yeah, I've made improvements to the stand. Including adding a steel insert that weighs it down considerably. That said, the one in the video is not as bad as it looks. The only time if tipped over was when I was filming the intro of this video in the park. But it was so windy that when I went to pick up the computer, the wind tipped over my camera, tripod and everything, into the ground.
Please notify me when your FW-16 version is ready. Also allow for high enough for a 6'2" guy on a standing desk set to ergonomic height for keyboard on top (no drawer)
@@StevoDesign ha! Yeah, a little. I have a second screen above it, so if I raise them too much, my neck hurts. But this is actually not as bad as it looks
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This link isn't working anymore and the link in the description (etsy) neither. Is there a mean to get the kit in Europe?
This is very cool. I think you'll be impressed with what the community can do if you put your design out there for others to modify. $300 for the kit will turn a lot of people away. And you can see from other comments the design has room for refinement. While the kit money I'm sure is nice, a more open source approach could be utilized for boosting your channel and will pay bigger dividends in the future. Obviously I'm biased, because I want to one of the people modifying it. 😅 But there's the pitch
So cool!!! I have been wanting something like this. The only missing part is to use a framework display as a secondary monitor. There is a thread in the framework community named “HDMI controller board for display panel” that looks promising for this.
Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd also love to add a touchscreen 🙂
If the screen could be used for both this device, and as a secondary screen, I would dare to jump on a project like this asap.
Great video production, for such a small (as of now) channel - very high quality content!
Thank you!
This is an awesome project! Made me think about cancelling out two FW16s for batch 7...
This is such a great project, also framework in generally seems really interesting.
That stand gives me anxiety just looking at it though, but I do like the hanging option.
Thank you! And yeah, the stand has been the part that's had the most iterations. It's a delicate balance between portability and stability. I've made improvements since recording the video though, including adding a steel insert to the base that weighs it down considerably, and makes the connection with the aluminum neck stronger.
That said, the one in the video is not as bad as it looks. The only time if tipped over was when I was filming the intro of this video in the park. But it was so windy that when I went to catch the computer, the wind tipped over my camera, tripod and everything, into the ground.
As someone else said. Flying Lotus is the stage name of a musician. Quite well known among certain genres. Be careful about using that name.
little pricey but I may pick one up at some point for my spare FW13 board. extremely cool
@@shamuclone thank you!
And yeah, the custom metal parts are expensive at these very low volumes, unfortunately. It's a niche accessory for a niche product
I've had a Windows Surface and an ROG Z13 for programming, but also to take it as a sketchbook into a meeting with UI designers and hand it around. Some un-laptoppy workflows are possible when you change the form factor. Really like what you did with the airplane hanger design, with other tablet-like PCs they just fall onto the top of your hands in turbulences! Since you mentioned a version 2, here are some more ideas, basically just more standard hardware connectors ;)
- Vesa mount connected to structural frame
- hangers not built in, but as an addon to attach with standard screws (more easy for people to customise attachments)
- ... that way it would be easy to attach a custom pen-holder, hangers including speakers, soft lights, usb cameras... all in the device orientations someone prefers
- screw holes in the front or back to mount hinges or other ways of customizing the form factor
- a carbon sheet as the central structural frame maybe? 😍 the acrylic cover looks great, but it doesnt transport heat that well
Really nice project!
Thank you so much! And thank you for the suggestions
This is super neat! Have you considered sharing the plans so folks could remix for their needs (speakers, framework 16, etc?)
Saw you on UFD, subbed. These projects are so cool.
Thank you!!
I'm curious, what is UFD?
tldr: I'd love to choose a non framework screen for gaming. It doesn't look possible but can you clarify? And I'm also waiting for the height adjust version you talked about.
I've done a lot of research on modding a 'laptop' to meet my needs more. This seems like the perhaps the coolest option, but I think I would wait for it to be height adjustable (which you said you are working on) and have one other reservation. This is close there are three main things I want. more monitor height, and portability, but also I'm hoping to choose my own screen/panel. I hear the framework screen is pretty smeary for gaming. I would love a way to use a VESA mountable portable monitor that screw in or some kind of clamp. When I have checked in the past there aren't many panels compatible with the frame work internal I think it's called edp connection. So I was thinking of going with a solution that works with one type c cable. The way the frame you made is it constrained to only being able to attach and balance the framework 3:2 13 inch panel? (I'd love to be able to choose a monitor of a slightly different size/aspect ratio. to have more portable gaming screens available. I think portable monitors cap at 17 inches I wouldn't expect or want to put on a desktop monitor.
I think if the adjustable stand goes high enough for good posture with my torso, and the ability to put in my own screen I would surely be sold on it. This height might be hard to hit but the center of my desktop monitor is 20 inches high.
Some other things I've also been looking at are sjpproducts Unimount that one looks like it should work with a whole framework laptop . I really like the magnetic thing for a usb hub that solves a problem of something else I was looking at, the new minifourm tablet that is high performance and refresh rate, but there is a problem usb hubs dangling down and a lack of ports. Also that tablet is a 2 in one that comes with a keyboard that might be useless unless I could find a way to wire it up.
If you can make that screen a touchscreen, it would work great as a tablet too! super cool, bookmarking for when I get a framework in the future
Agreed, that'd be nice! Unfortunately for now, it'd have to be a third-party one, as Framework doesn't make one, and I wanted to get all-framework parts But I might look into it in the future.
On the bright side If Framework releases a touchscreen compatible with the FW13, it should be compatible with this one as well.
So so so cool!
This is inspiring, I've also been looking for something like this (laptop, but no keyboard in order to use my own, and with a more ergonomically-placed monitor) for some time.
What is the battery life like, in your experience?
Finally, good job with the chassis, but I'll be honest: the stand looks not only unstable, as another comment said, but also flimsy, maybe you should work on a sturdier version of that.
To add a constructive part to my criticism, I'll share the basic idea I had in mind when thinking about a similar device: start from the geometry of an iPad + SmartFolio ( = the iconic iPad case), make it the size of a laptop monitor, and mount the chassis on a slide on this smartfolio-like case, so that the monitor can be elevated (hopefully at an adjustable height).
Even this looks unstable to me, because the chassis contains most of the weight, and you'd be elevating that weight at an angle, but at least this configuration would come with some geometric integrity
Thank you! And yeah, the stand has been the part that's had the most iterations. It's a delicate balance between portability and stability. I've made improvements since recording the video though, including adding a steel insert to the base that weighs it down considerably, and makes the connection with the aluminum neck stronger.
That said, the one in the video is not as bad as it looks. The only time if tipped over was when I was filming the intro of this video in the park. But it was so windy that when I went to catch the computer, the wind tipped over my camera, tripod and everything, into the ground.
Excelent idea!!
This is awesome. Wish you could do a mac mini equivalent and sell the kit😊
Very fun and interesting video
Thank you!
Genius!
I'm still waiting on touchscreen from Framework
What keyboard are you using? May have missed it but I can see this setup rocking at audio mixing and mastering which is my primary use case
@@DarrellBreeden it's a Dygma Defy (though I've now switched to a more compact Lily 58)
I want to do one with desktop 😮😮😮
What keyboard is that?
That's a Dygma Defy
How much do you have to worry about damaging the screen when bringing it places?
Considering this kind of setup myself, since I always use my bluetooth keyboard.
Not that much, since it always travels in the laptop compartment of my backpack or bike basket.
I'm sure a laptop sleeve would work just as well. Though, I'd probably get one designed for a 15" laptop due to the thickness
Do you carry the Defy in the included case?
I did, but it was a bit too bulky and I did get tired of carrying it everywhere. So now I've got a Lily58 that's similar to the Defy in layout (with fewer buttons) but with choc switches, so it's much more compact
Does the screen have touch support?
It doesn't, it uses the Framework screen, which does not have touchscreen support.
If they release one compatible with the FW13, it should be able to work on this though.
I was wondering how to get a tablet computer for 3 times the cost, now I know, thanks.
Hahaha. And it doesn't even have a touchscreen!
Flying Lotus is a musician.
It's a insect and a martial arts move first.
@@armisis You're thinking of locusts.
So it's a tablet on a tall stand... Cool.
...and don't forget, without a touchscreen!
But in seriousness, yeah, the main difference is that it can run applications that a regular computer can, and it can be repaired and upgraded. But other than that, yup!
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@@RLTIII thank you, I was wondering where all the sudden traffic was coming from!
it can fall easily with that stand
Yeah, I've made improvements to the stand. Including adding a steel insert that weighs it down considerably.
That said, the one in the video is not as bad as it looks. The only time if tipped over was when I was filming the intro of this video in the park. But it was so windy that when I went to pick up the computer, the wind tipped over my camera, tripod and everything, into the ground.
@@noisycarlos Don't make your stand much heavier, just accommodate a bag of lead or steel shot the user can add when they think it necessary.
Please notify me when your FW-16 version is ready. Also allow for high enough for a 6'2" guy on a standing desk set to ergonomic height for keyboard on top (no drawer)
bruh your widescreen is so low
@@StevoDesign ha! Yeah, a little. I have a second screen above it, so if I raise them too much, my neck hurts. But this is actually not as bad as it looks
After reading the item you wanted to design, stop buying all in ones, and shit laptops fixed.