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- Which style of throttle is better? Are you setting up your controller and throttle correctly? Does it even matter? Answers to these burning questions and more on this episode of Scooter Basics.
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I’ve got both too... trigger is easily more accurate and comfortable when it’s adjusted correctly... awesome video and great work on the channel.
Great points. Even by just angling the throttle down a couple of notches really boosts the ergo of the finger throttle. The throttle out of factory for most scooters are set waaaaay too high of an angle. Actually helps the display legibility when you angle it down as well I’ve found with mine. I really hope ESG watches this video. Keep up the good work mate.
Just got into e scooters, really interesting video and nicely edited guy!
Thanks a lot!!
The three people who disliked this video, were clearly triggered.
I didn’t even ride the scooter 🛵 i rented today just because the throttle
LOL
Clearly 🤣
Lmao nice pun 👍👏
@@angelsaidferreira5193 why bother renting it then? Lol
Literally just changed my mind man, which is good cas I want that mantisssss🤤🤤🤤
Bro get this one, I own it and recommend it!
www.indiegogo.com/projects/splach-ultra-smooth-suspension-e-scooter#/
Great video! I fell for the rumor on this one too. The throttle is the part of the scooter you'll interact with the most, so knowing about the different styles is important.
I prefer the thumb throttle, but I agree, the short thumb throttle can be tiring during long ride. i upgraded my 1st Ghost to long thumb throttle. Great video.
Really well put together and informative video. Your right about how so many people position the throttle in the wrong place.
Just bought the Apollo Ghost, which will be my first trigger throttle so this is some good stuff to know
My new Apollo Ghost came with a trigger throttle, and was debating a thumb throttle, but the more I ride it the more I think I like the trigger throttle. This video further cements my decision, thanks!
I was looking for a scooter that had about 25-30 mph top speed to a range of 20-25 miles. I stumbled uppon the Varla Pegasus and Kaabo Mantis 8. I thought the Mantis was better overall with smoother acceleration, more portability and less weight, pneumatic tires and a solid build. One thing I was worried about was how I would like the trigger throttle. The varla pegasus had a thumb throttle. Right now, I had a segway ninebot max which has the thumb throttle. As soon as I got the scooter, I faced the trigger throttle more downwards for more comfort and easily felt comfortable with this throttle body. I agree with your points in this video. One thing I have to thank you for is recommending the mantis 8 to me. Just got one and I loved it.
I don't like the normal scooter thumb throttles either BUT, the ones that are actually like ATV thumb throttles look nice! Might get one for my 10x!
Only tried thumb so far, and my initial thought about trigger was.. that seems awkward. But tilting it down, it looks much better indeed.
I find the thumb throttle is difficult to keep steady on uneven ground. I suspect trigger is better in that regard.
I was debating whether I replace the trigger throttle with the thumb throttle on my pre-ordered Zero 10X. After watching your video it makes sense that it would be more comfortable and more control using the trigger throttle. I’m use to just using my finger when it comes to braking and moving the clutch on a motorbike. With having the thumb wrapped around the handlebars at all times. Much safer too. Thank you for the video. And yes, I am new to the scooter world. I can’t wait to have fun. “ROCK ON”
I prefer finger throttle because i can grip more on the handlebars when breaking and accelerating :D
I currently have a thumb throttle I have never tried a trigger throttle but personally I like thumb throttles more just from my experience with thumb throttles but I enjoyed the information of this video
Fatigue for long stretches can be mitigated if you have cruise control.
Yes, but does this mantis have it is my question.
@@jack2u Yes Base and Pro. It’s in the P settings
Agreed. I hadn't considered the thumb/finger trigger question before buying and ended up with thumb in a push forward configuration. It also didn't immediately click that I had cruise control, and I tended to keep the throttle pushed forward, which was indeed tiring, especially with small hands. I have since learned to modify my instinctive behavior and now use the throttle only when necessary
I own a dualtron thunder and i have yet to experience fatigue while using the trigger throttle even on long rides
Thanks for the video thanks to reddit I cancelled my thumb trigger upgrade for my Apollo pro yesterday. I have a max also and did 30km with no cruise on my hands were very cramped on return trip
I agree with you about the restraint on the thumb but some scooters have cruise control
My new Mantis dual is on back order after owning a WideWheel for 6 months. The thumb throttle on the WideWheel is ok, but after testing a few trigger throttle scooters (including the Mantis) I could feel how much more control a trigger gives you. Great points on your other video covering set up too! :)
I just ordered the emove cruiser with the finger throttle because it makes more sense to me than the thumb throttle on my ninebot max. Glad I did. Good vid!
I am coming from a ninebot max, how did you like the emove ?
I learned the trigger throttle is up like that often times for shipping reasons and it looks to be for marketing too. The photos show the display better. But in actual use, you're standing over it and would probably want the display in a more laying down position than vertical. Having it so vertical is also bad for your wrist ergonomically.
The thumb throttle that's on the boosted rev is the best. I do like the trigger throttle as well, I haven't used the throttle you're speaking ,yet. Waiting for mines to come in from Apollo.
Very helpful video. I just bought budget ninebot g30 max with thumb throttle and am waiting for vsett 10+ with index throttle control. My first mod was supposed to be changing it to thumb too, but I'll definitely give my factory setup a trial with that smart alignment (more horizontal than vertical). Thank you!
i prefer the Nami style (Wuxing 108X) and round throttle like Rion etc.
I had a trigger throttle, and when adjusted correctly it is decent to ride with, but it feels less controllable than one of those IMO
i can also put my thumb on the body of that style thumb throttle and do small movements because i ride in power control mode (while scooters out of the box ride in speed control mode)
anyone you raced motocross already has index and middle finger on the front brake and clutch. it was second nature with the trigger throttle. thumb throttles are meant for quads
great video and agree with the positioning of brakes and throttle. sadly and most frustratingly, the kaabo skywalker handle bar, perhaps not wide enough or because it requires room to fold down, the brake levers and the throttle cannot be moved further inward, so they all end up cramped together with the fingers in the way of each other and no room to comfortably place or use them on brake and throttle without overlapping, blocking and literally dangerous and fumbling with the lever and trigger on top of each other! no wonder the throttle is perhaps, in my case, have to be angled up so as to be kept out of the way of overlapping the brake lever, preventing the trigger from being pulled, etc. etc. 😤😤😤
Súper helpful as I just got my high end scooter with trigger throttle! thanks so much for the suggestion!
They should always make it an option for a full twist not half not just others that’s fine too but full twist allows me to handle and hold the grips fully like I want to. I just like full twist not that any other is bad or anything.
Hi, having both types in the scooters I own I can say that the trigger throttle definitely gets in the way of brakes. If you don't have a brake lever on that side possibly its better. If you have hydraulic brakes (as my friends Wolf Warrior has) then its even worse and either the brake has to be too far down for comfort or the trigger to high.
Each are difficult to control and requires the rider to put aside their fantasy that its a thing which should obey them and actually learn to use it (it is after all a machine).
Lastly after decades of motorcycle riding the operation of pushing the thumb is a bit more akin to the movement of twisting the throttle ... so there's that too.
My view is the most important thing is to learn how to take advantage of cruise control and know how to work that.
I have a thumb throttle and experience no fatigue (1 hour plus ride, divided in 2 parts). It's comfortable, natural.
Prefer thumb.
Still wouldn't skip having a Mantis for that reason. ;)
I have a trigger throttle and the first thing I did was adjust the angle of the trigger. I still find it awkward and my finger definitely cramps. Plus having trigger throttle AND trigger brakes mean you have to weave your fingers through both triggers in a strange way and if you let go you might mistakenly grab the wrong one when your hand returns to the handle bar. I don't have access to a thumb throttle but the rented scooters I've tried with one seem more comfortable to use.
More than thumb vs trigger, is sine wave vs square wave.
I've grabbed my trigger by mistake once, braking hard, I'm willing to try thumb throttle.
Thumb throttle is okay and easy to use, i would recommend the option of cruiecontroll with them otherwise they get uncmfortable fast. Never tried trigger but i tried twist and it was way better even as only half the grip area was twisting
Your the man you fly on that scoter
Totally agree...trigger is much more comfortable!
Can you see well out of the side mirror some people say that you forearm can block some of the view. Very informative video by the way Thanks 👍🏻
I have just bought a Dragon scooter with a dangerously fierce trigger throttle. Today on my 3rd ride, I found out what you just advised but also have a conflict with the brake lever which is now in the way of my index finger. I will try to angle it down further but my main complaint is the function of the throttle? It has to be turned very gradually if you want to avoid being thrown forward uncontrollably but the first 10 or 20 degrees does nothing and then it is fierce! What do you see as the solution to this?
This video seems to not cover ebikes where there are other things required.
Did you consider that Scooters do come with cruise control?
I like them the same because you can use cruise control instead of keeping your thumb on the thumb throttle
What is the name of that extra bar in the middle of your handle bar? I need something like that!
There's no better or worse since it's personal preference. It's only a comparison.
1:43 that's partly because upright is better to look at the display, especially under the sun. Not everyone use a phone for speedo. And being upright is slightly better to prevent being mistake the throttle as the brake.
It's kinda like pneumatic vs solid tires, or standing vs sitting debate. There would always be two camps. No right or wrong. Just personal preferences.
so do you switch index for braking and throttle or do you brake with the middle finger?
Or you youst buy scooter with cruise control. Awesome video.
Is it possible to replace a thumb throttle with a trigger one? My scooter is the E wheels e2s urban max.
Great insights, very helpful!
is that you riding in the video (mountain bike)
How fast were you going in this video?
i prefer trigger, thumb levers are great for slower or park riding. trigger throttles i prefer long rides at faster speeds.
Trigger throttle allows the hand's most strongest part your thumb to grip the handlebars and your weakest finger to press the trigger, the opposite with the thumb throttle.
i have the segway max g30 and I have been looking to replace the thumb to finger throttle. do you know where to buy a thumb throttle?
Homemade full hand throtle 😼🔥
I got both lol Segway-Ninebot Max (thumb)
Apollo Explore (trigger)
i think trigger is the most comfortable throttle , i used to buy scooters with thumb throttle until i bought dualtron victor and now realizing the big difference...
I suppose seeing the screen might be determined by now ones height?
I prefer the thumb throttle with a 5 or 10 second auto-cruise control. I used to like the thumb throttle for a bit, until i find it always blocking the right handbrake lever. It isnt confusing, its just in the way...
So my question is how to angle the throttle and still access the brake effectively. I just got my scooter yesterday, and that was my challenge.
The thumb are way better. I miss the boosted rev thumb throttle. And yes, I have a mantis pro, still like the thumb throttles better.
yeah but in a panic what if you confuse it for brakes
That's definitely a possibility but the more you use a trigger throttle the most intuitive it will get. Thumb throttles definitely make it impossible to confuse the throttle and brake though
@@RK9Rides I guess. Idk I have the hover 1 alpha with the thumb throttle and ride it everyday, personally I dont get tired but idk
I’m a thumb throttle guy because, I always pull the trigger throttle every time I pull the brake on my brother’s Vsetts10+. It’s dangerous for me.
Great video, you earned a subscriber
Thank you
If the higher end more powerful and expensive scooters are using trigger style throttle, I trust the engineers know what they were doing when faced with deciding trigger vs thumb.
Wow! Great video broski! ☺️
I either want a thumb throttle or a throttle similar to rions, where you spin like a dial of sorts
i don't really like the trigger throttle :(
I recently found the Kuugo G-Booster and all of the specs are sooo good... Except that it has a thumb throttle :( I really am set on getting a trigger throttle and it's really a shame that to me the best scooter for the price doesn't have that
I have a Zero 8 with a finger-throttle in horisontal position. And auto-pilot om top of that. Still though - I would prefer a thumb-throttle. This throttle really is inherently better. Most people have the acceleration-option on max. Therefore they want to have better acceleration-control with a finger-throttle. Change to slower acceleration, and enjoy better ergonomic comfort with the thumb-throttle. At least let the buyer choose for himself with type of throttle he wants - also on high-end scooters.
What I like about thumb throttles is you can have a bigger display right in front of you.
Hello from Bulgaria..i have G-booster for 40 days...i had xiaomi 365 for 3weeks and i rode a kaabo 10 800w 2 days...i thought the trigger is waaaay better and looks x5 sportyer then my kugoo's thumb throttle newer display onboard computer/controller hahaha....sooo my little experience with these things showed me that the triggers are freaking DANGEROUS for a firsttimers...i wasnt a firts timer but i had veeeery close calls with that kaabo...the scooter was set in the baddest ways possible (brakes,triger and all) but still i am a guy who can drive everything,everywhere and on fulll power..i ride race bikes 750-1000cc and i can easylly say i can handle a scooter with ease...and that kaabo was dangerous even for me?>????what???i didnt believed i almost crashed 3 times for 2km hahahahha not so funny when it jumped instead of stop...my g booster was my first real scooter with real power and 8i never had problems confusing brake for throttle or thr. for brake...i ride hard and long..start on max battery and finish close or even to the moment you realize THIS IS IT now you push...its not nice to push 33kg scooter+gadgets+full set protectors,motocross helmet and a bend rotor who is making it soooo heavy to push...i had to remove the caliper to make it stop braking on its own...i hope my story is funny and informative...i pray to alll Gods to set foot and hands on more powerful scooter...VSETT 10 or 11 or maybe a offroad beast with 2x2400 and 40A battery...i love to feel the danger and to fight the beast...i would love to ride with other ppl in some ex6treme places...Love,Peace and POWER for us all...Amin
I just installed my thumb throttle, but mine shows KPH not MPH and I can’t find a way to change it
In the settings menu, press and hold both buttons at the same time. But you have to know which setting to adjust...
I got a gotrax gxl v2 and I can't stand the thumb throttle, so glad I'm upgrading to a yume s10
My scooter is using thumb throttle. I notice your thumb throttle is tilted backwards hence causing fatigue. Mine is tilted a bit forward hence less muscle stretching. Besides, the trigger throttle is a bit disturbing when braking, i often braking under accelerating
How hard would it be to mod a scooter for a left-hand throttle?
I like thumb throttle because I just hate having my other fingers on the throttle i don’t care if it’s my thumb though
I think the reason they place it so high so that they can see the speed they are doing rather than trying to focus on it when it's at an angle and possibly crashing.
Edit: I should have finished the video first.
I’ve always wanted to know can u switch sides
I hope I can change out the thumb trigger for a finger one on my hover1 m365 clone
what you like is what you like and thats fine but most entry level electric scooter have cruise control so you dont have to have you're hand cramped
THUMB IS WAY BETTER. It's counter intuitive to TRIGGER accelerate because in everything we ride like bikes, motocycles, that finger is reserved for braking. Just converted my scooter to thumb throttle and I can use my brakes so much better now
Very informative 👏
Was thinking about getting a m365 pro and doing the monorim v2 front suspension mod.. now I’m thinking mantis exactly like yours haha. Is it a much better choice? Plan is to use it for a 12 mile commute. Your suggestion?? :)
Why can't they have a throttle on the handle like motorcycle?
I feel like I have more control of the scooter with the thumb throttle at high speed. Trigger seem dangerous.. too many times at a light I pulled the trigger instead of the break and the scooter went flying out of my hands..Or while my hands are resting at a stop some how I tap the trigger.. bike go flying smh.. thumb throttle give me two different distinct motions for a function. Personally I feel having a throttle match a break style is idiotic and should be either a push style throttle or a thumb style but never trigger…bc it like breaking
Good electric scooter videos. Liked and subscribed.
thumb for beginners, trigger for ADvance/mountain riding
Just use two fingers for precision on thumb throttle - thumb and index
Trigger is better cause you can hold onto it, thumb is fun and dainty but for annoying for any distance
excellent ~ i am about to buy my 1st e scooter & that was useful to know
boston/uk
Check out my latest Kugoo M4 Pro vid mate, I'm riding round Boston too
I get thumb cramp with the thumb throttle
Really interesting stuff man, thank you. You clearly seem knowledgable so I had a quick question that is pretty much subjective. I have a Ninebot Max G30LP that tops out at 18-19mph. Good scooter but I want to go faster but not sketchy fast. The Emove Cruiser apparently hits 25-28mph. Do you find a noticeable diff btw 19 and 25mph? I just want some zip but nothing crazy. Thank you!
It goes up to 33mph now but your comment was 2 years ago. Which scooter did you purchase?
I like trigger
HOW ABOUT THOSE WITH FRONT BREAK? THROTTLE WON'T GO TO THAT POSITION COZ OF THE BREAK...
YUP lol. Trigger is no bueno with the brake position
I just got my scooter with a trigger throttle, but the thing that you didn't mention is hand size...... i am a little person and am finding it hard to reach the trigger ;( then the trigger is too big and gets in the way of me pulling on the break(my hand is too small to hold them both at once) ;( ;( ;( Why didn't you mention this..... you need a tiny person's perspective, i guess... (like all the females in the world lol). On top of all of that, the trigger feels sticky... like a ball mouse that hasn't been cleaned in forever... but that might just be the cheap plastic, or spring, idk.. thankfully i can change the throttle on the e-scooter i have.
How do you change you kmp to mph
Can you use wd40 on a squeaky thumb throttle?
We already know its trigger
This is what I've been trying to tell people but they don't get it. You need the thumb to grip because it is the only opposing finger to the other four. If you lose the trigger finger you still got the other three but on the thumb side if you lose it you got nothing so you have to grip the bar much harder causing cramping. When I use to race Jetskis they all came stock with thumb throttles and the first thing everyone did was ditch those for trigger finger throttles for better control. With scooters it seems the general opinion is reversed. Normally I wouldn't care but for the fact that you can't find any good third party trigger finger throttles because the manufacturers think no one would buy them. Sadly, most of the new scooters are now coming with thumb throttles.
I just don't like the trigger throttle because I'm always pulling it by accident and it's caused some uh-ohs.