7 Things Sniper Elite 4 Did Better Than Sniper Elite 5
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the channel, and welcome back to Sniper Elite 4, where today, we will be discussing seven things that Sniper Elite 4 did better than Sniper Elite 5.
My Intro Music: • Grand Theft Auto III P...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Map Design
4:06 Armoured Vehicles
5:57 Land Mines & Rocks
9:22 Environmental Variety
10:27 Duty Rosters
12:10 Freedom Of Movement
13:16 Friendly VS Enemy AI Battles
14:24 Outro - เกม
I just started playing the Sniper Elite games.. I started with 5 and I was really enjoying it so I downloaded 4 and was blown away by how much better it is. Better level design, better kill cams, outfits, AI fighting, etc. I should have beat 5 first because I have no desire to go back to it now lol
play hitman 3, your nuts will be blown off
@@marth6270 I own it. Love the Hitman games
I agree. I found that some locations were empty with regards to enemies allowing you to just walk in and walk out.
I didn’t like the fact they removed the ability to sprint while crouched like you could in sniper elite 4
Holy shit, they did?
I haven’t played Sniper Elite 5 yet and I’m no longer sure that I’m going to. That’s just stupid. Hooray, I can no longer move stealthily and quickly, what a great change.
I too find the inability to go anywhere I want very distracting. We have to go too far to get around things, killing a great sniper approach. I like to plot and scheme. I never opt for run and shoot.
Love the analysis in your videos. I always look forward to them.
Ah finally, T Wilson's actual thoughts on Sniper Elite 5.. everything I thought playing, except i'd add the ridiculous weapon mods and blackwashing of the French resistance.
Killcams! You could clearly see bone shatter and organs collapse in sniper elite 4, like something out of a mortal kombat fatality. It was way more satisfying in my opinion
Its 6 yrs old now and still fun.
Been waiting for a vid like this. Sniper 4 is way more replay able than 5
Totally agree.
Exactly , my experience is , that exactly
Agree
4 is my first and my favorite new obsession. 😁 Being a Metal Gear fan there haven't been many games that touch on the formula. 4 does in the best of ways and adds nice little bonuses to keep me playing. I was looking into 5 and it looks nice but I already love 4. 😝 Thanks for the vid. 👍
Sniper elite 5 is a decent game, but sadly lacking a lot of good sniping points where you can get a lot of long shots, also sadly lacking is the s mines and trip mines, sniper elite 4 however you can get a lot of stealth kills, not only that but the radio man who can call in reinforcements, the spotter who has the knack of being able to launch a flare at you wherever you are, love the sniper elite series though, I even have the sniper elite on the ps2 platform, now that is a lot harder, apart from if you’re on authentic settings, being stealthy on sniper elite 5 is harder than sniper elite 3 and 4
I must also say that Sniper Elite 4 had a far better villain. Abelard Möller was rather pathetic, with all of his answers being "The sniper has penetrated my defenses, killed all of my men and disrupted my plan? Put more guards where he hasn't been!"
In Sniper Elite 4, we never knew Böhm's plan, hiding behind a façade, didn't have pathetic responses to Karl's escapades and even captured and killed the leader of the partisans, with a brilliant cold blooded kill in the final stage. He even had a monologue. Brilliant villain.
My main issue with Sniper Elite 5 is the AI. One minute they are as dumb as a bag of rocks (which no longer exist in the Sniper Elite universe, apparently) and it almost feels like you are playing a game where you massacre a bunch of poor defenseless soldiers with mental deficiencies. It's honestly quite saddening at times. The next minute they show respectable levels of prowess and will give you a masterclass on how to chase down and corner an enemy, leaving you with little to no escape routes - only for them to usually cock it up again by going back to dumb mode. They are especially braindead inside buildings, and even more so on staircases. You do not know how many times I have had German soldiers run right by me on a staircase. In SE4 they would slowly navigate the stairs with their weapons up, but in SE5 they seem to charge up them and ignore you entirely until they reach the top. Their reaction times are the same story. Most of the time they will do these stupid little animations when you appear in front of them that give you ample time to shoot them. Occasionally they will behave like SE4's AI and start firing as soon as spotting you, but it's rarer than I'd want it to be. I cannot help but think that maybe these hot and cold swings from the AI is an issue with the coding in the new enemy behavior system (with the panicked mode and all that), that would hopefully be a quick fix if Rebellion actually cared to. I'd like to think they care, but most updates for SE5 that have come out since launch seem to be microtransactions. I hate to say it, but I think the beloved indie series we all used to love so much has taken its step into the "mainstream," and has taken a huge hit in quality on account of it.
I really, really want to love Sniper Elite 5: France. The series is one of my favorites in existence, a lot of the new features are pretty cool, the enemy soldiers look cooler than ever especially equipment-wise, and also simply because the game was given to me as a Christmas gift. But my God, the game has been out since May. I am afraid if Rebellion had wanted to at least fix the AI inconsistency problems they would have by now. I want to think that Rebellion cares, but I am just not too sure. It is hard to not feel a little bit sold out or betrayed with the handling of this game, and that hurts more than anything else, really.
With all this being said, I 100% could ignore most of the other "downgrades" if this one was not present. If your shooting game does not have good AI, you know, the main thing you are going to be shooting at, then the rest of it is pointless.
Awesome video! I agree alot with these points also with the minefields part mission 3 does have one
Good insight. I've been trying to like SE5 since it came out. Just re-downloaded SE4 and played the Library mission and it is SOOOOO much more fun and much better for sniping than SE5.
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Now I haven’t played SE5 but I have watched a good chunk of invasion content. And in them when a decoy is used it usually gives away the invaders location even if they don’t hit it. So while yes if you have invaders turned off it probably is useless, it is good with them turned on
Great video, man! And awesome GoldenEye background music 🎶
Honestly I find se5 more fun and replayable than I do se4 but both are good. To me the more customization of se5 alongside some new mechanics like the audible range and non lethal makes for interesting ways to play. But I’m hoping the expand upon these things more with more dlc or updates
I do wish se5 had a big overwatch or sniper assist level. You and a squad have your immediate threat but mainly hve to provide cover and flank for a larger invading force.
Excellent summary - I may even return to SE4. And you forgot to mention how moronically remorseless the A1 is with snipers monotonously firing even when you are out of sight or the guards incessantly rushing the spot where you were last seen. In short SE5 has killed the franchise for me - considering I have over 3200 hours in SE4 this is sad indeed (perhaps not as sad as spending so much time gaming...)
The theme music in SE4 is probably the best of any game in my opinion
Still think the very first one has the best, most sinister vibe to it
In SN5 i hate the fact you cant just lay there like a sniper would? you have to move or your position is given away. It really spoils the sniper aspect.
this is the earliest I've been to a TWilson upload
The fact that they removed the 4 from the Game pass is sad. I had almost all achivments and i had almost all the guns Gold...
These are all great insights. The point that is made here in the comments about mining your 6 - was helpful in 4 but useless in 5 - is an interesting one. I understand that Rebelion wanted to make a complete stealth run harder in 5, but it’s just WAY too hard to stay completely stealthy, and you’re left with your sub machine gun. You left out Karl’s supposed ‘character development’ in SE5. I don’t get it, what exactly do we learn?
spy academy has a minefield 😉 but imo the problem with minefields in se5 is not the lack of it, the problem is the mines are hidden in the ground, marked with a ridiculous flag, mines have a way too big trigger radius and (if i remember correctly) you can't disarm the mines on authentic
I am playing SE5 right now and I am missing the crouch run feature they had in 4. I think I prefer the movement mechanincs in 4 better.
agree with you on like 98% of this, just finished SE5 campain today, and i just sat there with a half hearted experience. it was nice playing sniper elite, but through the entire playthrough i sat there thinking "my god they havent improved anything,, in fact its worse than se4... i miss se4.."
i also thought the number of enemies was quite low in some missions. compared to se4 where you could really get swarmed if you werent careful.
wich im going to install tomorrow and go through again.
THe only things i kinda liked was the play enemy sniper feature, wich was kinda cool.
and the fact that you could COOP campaign.
me and my friend spent countless hours on the coop missions in se4, some of the best fun i ever had, so that part i like.
im deeply unimpressed with the game and glad i waited for it to be on sale :p
I think they both do somethings better than the other. Ive been playing se4 for years and im really enjoying se5
Personally I think se5s level design is decent enough bar the first level, the problem I have is it’s enemy layout and amount of them.
I never feel like I have to put a mine down to cover my back in most missions and in some missions like the second one it’s near impossible to take out a small group of enemies without alerting the whole château.
I will say group detection is a lot better in se5 most the time you can take out an enemy who’s aware of you quickly and the enemies around won’t telepathically know their friend has just been shot at. Or a gunfight on one side of the map won’t alert every enemy even across the level.
The enemy snipers AI is a bit weird, I shot an enemy once and the sniper saw the guy I killed fall over and shot about 30 bullets rapidly in that direction without ever reloading, when I got to him I grabbed his weapon and he had a bolt action rifle and nobody around him seemed to be phased by the fact he was shooting.
I agree on a few points: 1.) being able to go anywhere and not finding parts of the mapped it looks like you should be able to go through but cannot. SE5 with those limitations isn't as fun. 2.) The map dynamics. SE4 just had better maps overall. A) I disagree on the quantity of enemy units. I want MORE units so it's more realistic in quantity (A Company protecting a highly prized location would have close to 200 men), and I almost NEVER pull out the machine gun and I play on everything on most difficult setting, except authentic. There should be a separate difficulty setting to increase/decrease the enemy units. B.) Maybe it's just me, but I found SE4's kill cam to be more brutal. I liked seeing everything blow apart, and SE5 with the muscle overlay is just less gruesome. Maybe you could argue it's more realistic, but I just enjoyed the ultra-satisfying nature of bones flying everywhere.
Sidebar : many thanks for the musical selection, very shaken-not-stirred of you 👍🍻🇨🇦
When you're making a 5th installment of a series it has to be the same but different ,never easy but for me they pulled it off .I played 3 and never got into it but bought 5 and love it .then 4 and they're both great .Invasion is literally a game changer which gives it the edge for me but really enjoying 4 too
Level 3 of the base game has minefields. The little beach area on the right as you start the level. It's up against the walls of the village
Thank you for this, you are spot on. I really have tried to like 5, what were they thinking!?
Sucks that rebellion tried to appeal to the more aggressive players with 5. The maps are also so much less open than in 4 sometimes. The graphics in 5 are definitely much better, especially the water
AGREED. I´m forcing myself to finish Sniper Elite 5, while i could not stop playing Sniper elite 4. SE5 missions are extremely boring for the way they re design, you have one objective in the center of the map instead of several objectives all arount it.
In agreement with you. I have clocked well over 4000 hours on sniper elite 4. I have enjoyed 5 but 4 is and always will be my favourite. I’m hoping 6 will be more like 4 when it eventually gets released.
How is it that in you video it seems it is bright and not dark enough? Did you change the graphic settings or just changed the contrast? I like it that way though. I can see clearly. How did you do that settings?
Very great video, send you my best Wishes and wish you a beautiful day!!🌺🥰
What is absurd about the wooden mines in SE5 is that they actually existed, sure, but they weren't mercyful, as they are portrayed in the game. They didn't just knock out the soldiers, they would actually blow off his leg. 7:32
Similar absurdity is the wooden non-lethal bullets. Honestly I would prefer if they implemented some kind bullets with low dose of neurotoxin, or other sh*t, similar to what veterinarians use. It would be far more logical from ballistic point of view. You can't just shoot someone to the head with wooden bullet and knock him down. First of all you would miss the enemy, as such bullets wouldn't have any decent accuracy at all, not even considering long range accuracy. Second of all getting hit with a small projectile in the head hard enough to know someone out, would probably also kill or wound you horribly in most instances. Paralysing or anestetic agent seems far more reasonable, as any hit of the needle-headed bullet to the torso or neck could send the soldier to sleep relatively safely and for even many hours.
Of course I would suggest that such bulkets should not be used in main rifle, moreover they should be utilised with a special, dedicated gun, but I get it, that would probably affect the gameplay too much
I've played off and on over the years, lately I have been playing with the Winchester 1895 man oh man have I been getting my ONE SHOOT KILL🎯 on! I was playing with the Mosin-Nagant and decided to give the ole' Winchester a stab🤷🏾♂️
I'm really enjoying it!
do enemies spawn indefinitely in SE5? I was sure that I destroyed the alarm (maybe I missed some) but enemies kept spawning non-stop.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your point about map deisgn. It shoul be fun first, second, and third. Only THEN should you try to make it realistic. Im only a few minutes in, so I don't know if you touched at this: The color pallete of SE5 is MUCH worse than it was in 4. 4 was vibrant, colorful, and there was always something...at least interesting to look at.SE5 is so, oppressivley grey it makes me want to turn the game off. I'd bet large amounts of money thats one of the reasons that Spy Academy is the best level in 5. It actually has COLOR.
Best comment so far! You nailed it!
I completely disagree with some of the points. I love how vehicles are more resilient, they pose an actual threat now. on higher difficulties they need planning, gathering resources to take them down, or avoiding them altogether. thank god stones were replaced with bottles, they were cheap remote control gadget. Reinforcements are awesome, they hold me accountable for breaking stealth. In SE4 being sloppy meant you have to deal with some enemies more directly and then move on. In SE5 allowing enemies to call reinforcements means you're better off reloading checkpoint. But here comes my biggest problem with the game - no permadeath mode! Authentic difficulty is not as exciting anymore.
Thought shoe mine was more of Vietnam thing 😆
I agree with everything your saying only started playing it other day and it's off from the series
Both great games wish people would support sniper elite more then cod and battlefield.
1. I really dont agree with the level design argument. I think the SE5 maps feel way more immersive and fun to navigate as I think SE4 maps are just too open. I also like how they are sectioned off because you can mess up in one area and set off an alarm or get in a huge gunfight without it ruining the whole mission as enemies in a separate location will stay white. I like how there are pathways that you have to take although I do wish some maps had 1 or 2 more little paths to navigate to give you more options or circumnavigate areas you don't like from previous playthroughs
2. I dont think handling armored vehicles was done too well in either game. I just think its too easy in both installments. If we look back at old school games like Soldier of Fortune and Doom, you felt terror when certain enemies showed up. In Soldier of Fortune, it was the machine gun tanks because they decimated you and were hard to take out. In Doom it was the Missile demons. I think this should be the approach with tanks in Sniper Elite. In my opinion Teller mines should destroy the tracks so that they are immobilized. I do really like the ability from SE4 to shoot through the view ports but I think once you take out either the gunner or the driver the other enemies in the vehicle should close the view ports, keeping you from killing the rest of them. I think that satchel charges should act as they do in SE5 by opening up the armor panel on the back of the tank but i dont think that you should be able to open it by shooting the red things and I also dont think a shot to the back after exposing it with a satchel should blow the tank. I think after using a satchel to open the back, you need to stick a nade or tnt to the exposed section. Other than this, you should only be able to destroy a tank with Panzerfausts, like 5 tnt, or airstrikes. Or sending a grenade accurately through the top hatch when the gunner is exposed. And I think a tank shot should kill you unless you are behind cover in which it should take all but a speck of health.
3. I do agree about the different types of mines. The non-lethal shit shouldnt have even made an appearance in this game, it is so stupid. However, I do think it helps when developers switch up the gear sets through each game to give some variety and new tactics with each installment. That is something we've seen with many other series and its always fun when fan favorite tools make an appearance again. Also, why would Kyle be walking around with big bottles? The rocks make way more sense and if a soldier heard a bottle break Im pretty sure theyd sound the alarm where as a rock is more subtle
4. Once again, I completely disagree with your take on the environments. French fields are prime time WW2 from the invasion of Normandy and onward. They are beautiful and diverse, from beach locations, to open fields, to rainy forests, to colorful flower filled hills.
Just saw the outro. SE5 has better graphics idek how you could argue that SE4 does. And SE5 did have minefields that I guess you missed such as on the beach on mission 3, Spy Academy. SE5 ghillie suit is better, Enemy design in SE5 is more detailed and accurate such as uniforms and tools they carry. SE5 ghillie wrap is way better than a gold weapon skin
Unfortunately I have been going back to elite 3 and 4, I just love the marina survival map. Also is it just me ore does elite 5 feel a bit clunky in the controls like their is a delay in button input
For me, SE5 lacks the smoothness of 4. I could get into a rhythm with 4. But 5 feels….the controls lack a quality that exists in 4.
Why can't you shoot around a corner or above an wall in SE5? It's so frustrating forcing you to stand or move from a good position because Karl can't adjust. Also, when you're down and conveniently behind a door or table and can't see the enemy to shoot them. I like 5, but 4 definitely has better gameplay in certain aspects.
Now hear me out I like sniper elite 4 more than 5 because alot of 5's missions are imo very forgetable + the final mission in 5 is very bad and once again forgetable alagra fortress on the other hand was badass AF, the last missions in sniper elite are the most important to me they are always the hardest wich make them the most fun
Yeah sniper elite 5 only had me curious because of the pistol x-ray kills and whatnot but as I played it I remember playing four & with five I was like wow man I feel like four is better way better ,
I said from the start it's Call of Duty Elite 5, all the good things missing from 4 = Trip Mines, Spring Mines in the main game, The Right size map's for a good game with a friend before bed time (not a load it, load it, load it again map) Trying to heal yearself over a dead body will have you placing a mine on the body, Massive map that get very boring, Very Quick, In battle trying to use the option wheel can get you killed and who ever you are with by having you drop a nad by mistake, The whole feel of 5 is wrong... and it's made us stop playing all the game's like going for a meal being sick after you just don't want to eat anything there again... did I Curse us all by getting the game day one and not waiting a year .... I feel punished for this with a bad game daft maps and benches I can no longer be bothered to find, well done Rebellion you sucked the very life out of a game I love, I could go on and on .... am so sad about the whole experience...Dame!
I luckily didn't buy it on day one because the lessons I've learn from the past of triple a game's that were disappointing and felt like the same game but it has missing good features and less efforts
from the 1st one not gonna lie I was tempting to buy it because people were saying it's a really good game even though it just came out..so the game's I learned were dying light 2 and call of duty game's
It’s been quite the journey, SE5. Avid fan of the series, god alone knows how many hours… I could write reams about the issues but the bottom line is that SE5 Axis Invasion was fantastic until the game became available on GamePass. At first, SE5 was a buggy mess but it got resolved bit by bit with the patches. For several months from Q3 2022 to roughly Feb 2023 it was fantastic playing Axis Invasions 1v1 bit now its just flat out boring with all the noobs playing it like Fortnite. Offline campaign? SE5 is terrible, stupid headless chicken AI and awful replayability. Authentic difficulty is silly easy. So to test the SE5 vs SE4 debate I started a fresh profile on SE4 and was blown away by how much smarter the AI is, and how much better the maps are. End of the day, Axis Invasion brought a whole new level of interest to the series, but at the expense of single player campaign - SE5 is very poor compared to SE4. The hidden jewel in SE5 is Survival! It’s really hard and well worth playing.
Ah yes, Sniper Elite 4 was very beginner-friendly than 5. But honestly, Playing Authentic in SE5 was much more easier than SE4 does.
Se5 had better non dlc weapon variety imo though. Everything else is spot on sir
Now for the video 7 things Sniper Elite 5 Did Better Than Sniper Elite 4.
1...
2. Glitched out A.H. mission. (twice he has glitched into an other dimension for me making the mission un-finish-able).
3. Invisible walls... So.Many.Invisible.Walls. We love those, don't we?
4? Yes. That was the better game.
5...Anyone? Nah worse game.
...6.?
7 * crickets chirping*
just saw this and your otheer did things better vioid, did I get this right? You actually can shoot the driver and gunner in sniper elite 5? The hatches always look closed to me, as if that is no longer possible. I really loved the vehicle kill cames, as such, I really hate how that's removed in sniper elite 5
Thing i miss the most
Being able to run while crouched you can't do that se5
I hope they bring s mine back to the game but i want also throwing knives it will be a good for the game.
Over all se5 is good and love the series
I agree with the overall opinions. SE5 does lean heavy towards the no talent, no effort, braindead BS run and gun game play style. The AI is a swarm type of AI and they will and do swarm you and fast once they know were you are. In Survival it is even worse, they just keep coming and a lot of them. And it seems like every other bad guy has a Panzerfaust in Survival and there are a lot more bad guys with FG-42's also. And the Tanks and cars AI is unrealistic to say the least. Pop your head up anywhere on the map and they see you right away and start firing at you anywhere on the map. And you can't disable the main gunner on the 222's nor the tanks, it's blow them up ending the wave or nothing.
There is a mine field in Spy Academy on the right side of the beach
I started with 4 and then played 2 through 5 . Even the zombie army games
The only good thing se5 has is invasion mode
bring back the trip mine and on survival give us a map with a more sniper feel rather than a call of duty mindless map
I totally disagree with the vid and almost everyone in the comments lmao
Sniper Elite 5 is so great and has some really good replay value with the Axis Invasion or the Survival game mod. I had so much fun grinding for the 100% on steam for SE5. And I played every SE games. My favorite one might be the 2 tho, the 1 has such an iconic music also. Well, SE4 is really really good but I found myself more involved in the story of the 5 than the one in 4.
That’s the thing. Invasions carry SE5.
Yeah I loved duty rosters shame they removed them I also agree that the kill h..ler mission was so much better in se4
Just started SE5 and god its sucks so much compared to SE4. The grpahcis are terirble, there are two back to back missions where i have to get into a fortified castle/chateau. SE4 had a gaminess to it that made it charming and fun. SE5 is trying to take itself wayyy too seriously and ruins it.
4 was far better than 5 in regards emenies. 5 seemed empty in some locations which made it i bit too easy.
You have not heard of Centerstrain01, he has done SE5 without killing many people
4 is the best in the series, period - by a fkn huge margin.
Avoided this series due to a belief that it was a low-budget Cabella clone.......so glad I was wrong.
SE5 was my first, so naturally I'm installing SE4 today 🎉
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What are your thoughts on SE4?
4:38 HE SAID MAKE LIKE A FREDDO AND HOP IT. THAT'S FROM THE BRITISH RAPPER MEME 😂😂😂😂😂
Im one of the few that really likes both.
4 is a little better in my opinion, though
Yea I agree. I also find the survival maps in se5 really boring. All of them. 4 was much better. The weapon mods and work benches I find tideous and overkill. Just annoying.
The loss of the s-mine and trip mine in SE 5 was Huge to me! That aside I do love SE 5 but I agree that 4 is a better all around game…
SE 4 has better features and more firefights than SE 5 however SE has better maps there are shorter and less confusing than SE4 maps however tho I wish SE5 had the trip mine
I’m 16 years old and I prefer playing tactically
Sniper Elite 4 is ten times the better game. I played 5 one time, uninstalled it and have no desire for further game play. They dropped the ball with 5. Not as fun, not a sniper game and it is more a forced mix up, the bottom line 5 was a huge disappointment.
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Well it’s not that bad that you shouldn’t play it … wow
I think you should give the first dlc a try, the level design feels a lot more like se4.
Obviously if you’re not a fan of the Overall gameplay it’s probably not worth checking out but I did enjoy it more than some of the base game levels.
@@blueteam4007 no, it really is that bad. I bought the season pass and have no interest in what's in it any more.
Not run and gunning. I only do that in zombie army
5 is just terrible, and it makes me cry. All they needed to do was fix some of 4's bugs, maybe add a few things, LEAVE THE CONTROLS ALONE, and gives us a new Campaign. It would have sold at full price instantly in the first week and created more DLC sales ongoing.
Do the shatshul sharges have good eshploshuns?
sniper elite 4 did everything better
Palese anyone comes in my lobby overwatch in sniper elite 4
Only thing I disagree with at all is the overpopulated statement, it makes stealth a challenge, being caught is not inevitable. Just need to practice at it. I’m not saying you arent a good the way ha ha but I prefer the much more challenging stealth, stealth, is too easy and too many games.
Anyone else think Sofia rocks? 😁
Why bother playing on anything about cadet difficulty if you're going to use empty lung for every single shot to tell you exactly where the bullet is going and removing all skill from the game?
Might as well just use play cadet and shoot on the crosshairs, actually painful to watch.... 26 meters and you need empty lung?
Pre-ordered Sniper Elite 5, played it through one time and sold it. Sniper Elite 4 I still play on Series X. Sniper Elite 4 I would give a 10 out of 10, Sniper Elite 5 I would give a 7 out of 10. Sniper Elite 4 did seem to have more polish, the maps were funner, and not big for the sake of being big. The enemy AI seems sharper, it also has an Authentic Plus difficulty, so it's more challenging. The sniping also seemed better, there was far more wind, and skill is involved to land distant shots. Let's not forget the training grounds in Sniper Elite 4, while it may not be revolutionary, it's fun to practice your shots. The challenge maps are also better, and I can't picture the DLC maps in 5 ever being better than the 4 DLC maps we got in 4.
Agree Sniper Elite 5 is disappointing. Although I’ve just started the game, I’m frustrated with what I see as a set back in previous well executed game designs. Why fix or change something that works? Changing rocks for glass bottles is not only dumb but not realistic. Rocks are a common item everywhere. Sight weapon accusation time in Elite 5 is slower than in 4. The review is correct, the Elite 5 is catering to run and gun crowds by forcing you to use sub machine guns. That’s a last resort weapon when you’ve screwed up the approach. To be fair, Elite 5 is a little more realistic from a real world perspective because of the program flaws. That said, if you want real world play, just up the ante in the level of play in Elite 4 and it gets tough. Bottom line, don’t waste your money on the new Sniper Elite 5, invest in something else and try something new……maybe pin ball or pool games.
And I’m British
Yea, you nailed it.
SE5 is straight up bad
Is it JUST me or does whenever a new sniper elite get released it's always the previous game that looks better most recent?
There is no way in hell you think the graphics in SE4 are better than SE5, that just makes no sense.
You are completely true
It’s not worse graphics just a worse color palate, it’s more dull…
Yea I really didn’t know what it was, something felt really off about 5’s map design compared to 4 and I couldn’t even finish it for some reason. Couldn’t put my finger on it
It's because it is bad
Honestly I agree with the level design criticism. However you really failed to get me to agree with the rest of your points because of your hostile attitude towards the playerbases of modern shooters.
You have every right to hold your opinions on those types of gamers but when you’re making a video like this acting this hostile only discredits yourself and makes you look immature. If Rebellion watched this video and heard you slagging off a large portion of their customer base they’re not going to listen to you.
Also your complaint about the environments is something that can’t be helped. The game is set in war-torn France, SE4 is set in Italy which not only has more vibrant and architectural styles but also isn’t the main theatre of a full-fledged war. So given the setting choice they only had so much they could do.
My theory regarding the lack of enemies is that they intended for there to be a lot more dotted around but with the scarcity of Next-Gen consoles they had to decrease the enemy count so they could also release on current-gen hardware in order to make a profit.
Final thing to note: This game was developed during a global pandemic, this will have forced the devs to have to cut corners and reduce scope to launch on time.
I know I didn't convey it well in the video, but I actually have no problem with the fan bases of modern shooters: I myself play lots of modern, fast paced, aggressive shooters, but I think don't think that Sniper Elite should be a modern, fast paced, aggressive shooter: Sniper Elite should be about slower, more reserved gameplay, and Rebellion's attempts to attract modern players by making SMGs way too powerful only serves to alienate the game's original fan base, the people who are here for sniping and for stealth.
I found SE5 to be...underwhelming.
How is graphics better on se4 its night and day different on se5 !maybe on last venture but series x se5 is better graphically
I think you are being too harsh with your criticism.
Destroying armored vehicles is not that difficult in SE5, there are multiple ways to do it quite quickly. I used to be frustrated by how complicated it was to destroy a tank but recently it's much easier somehow. I'm not sure if things have been recently tweaked in SE5 or if I just got better at playing the game 😄
i´ve played sniper elite 1-5 and alots of what you just said i cant agree. every game have their own feature. and SE5 bottles is a good thing. but i would like to throw rocks to but not unlimited. and and the amount of enemies is easy in stealth if you know how to play and lure them. it is more a game you have to build a really good stategy and not just play around like a baby.
first point: am i the only one who liked atlantic wall because of the realism? and the more challanging stealth because the amount of germans in one place?
second point: i like se4's "one man can destroy a tank with one satchel charge" machanic more, but in se5 i feel like Rebellion wanted to create hardpoints, forcing the player to avoid enemies and find alternate paths, i dont know what i like more.
third point: completely agree, nothing more to say other that i like the non lethal aproach and i feel like the bottles were added to sort of mock/meme the french of france in a whole because of the wine strereotype but in the end it failed.
fifth point: completely agree, nothing more to add
sixth point: completely agree, nothing more to add i think this point is what i disliked the most about se5 maps
seventh point: completely agree, nothing more to add
Second point is great, it does feel a lot more like they want you to almost avoid combat and I kind of like that you can’t just place a change on every vehicle for a instant kill.
I think the ai is better in some cases but worse in others in 5, just alerting one guy won’t completely blow your cover and enemies near by don’t telepathically know their friend was just shot at from behind walls but the amount of them seem off, some areas don’t have enough enemies and some places have too many.
I also never find myself using teller mines, or I will use them but then kill every enemy in the area and pick it back up because I know nobody’s going to walk that way.
In se4 I use to sneak in undetected and plant mine’s around an area with enemies then sneak back to a good location, take some shots and watch the chaos unfold as they’d run around looking for cover and setting of my traps, I haven’t found a single location on any level where I can do that on 5 because the AI just hear my gunshots and crouch in one place until the all clear is given.
You are not the only one. I loved SE 5 design. It is so much harder to go around undetected, especially the audible radius on welrod. Loved it. With SE4 it was too almost too easy. You run away from the location and enemy forgets about you. Here they keep running around the place till they find and kill you.
se4 bloom is stupid and makes it unplayable without sungkasses. so it doesnt matter if it has cool gameplay.
Sniper Elite 3 is better then SE4 & SE5