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Please make a story of tow truck companies stealing cars from accident scenes or asking for big money as storage fees after towing half dying people's vehicles away.
I agree... Get the qualification and THEN help the respective patients... That 15 year old will need to start seeing someone as PTSD is a very real issue!
Very true. My thoughts exactly. It could manifest in some paradoxical way later on in his life. The adrenalin rush can only suppress negative images up to a point, then a mature mind is required.
Afriforum neighborhood watch kids, a bunch of clowns. Illegal stopping of vehicles, search and "arrests" while also using the "white strobe lights" that is actually only designated to be used by registered PSIRA businesses and PSIRA Level C Armed response with a valid certificate.
Maybe the kid… the mother (and others like her) are probably too set in their ways. Sitting for studies has no adrenaline. They would not last in class. Unfortunately.
@@IanMulwitsky they obviously enjoy what they do immensely and they have been doing it for much longer than the green eared young ones. It’s easier to change someone who still is learning the ropes than for you to try the same on an “expert”.
@@BatsiraiMusukaWhy? You use obviously quite a bit. If given a chance to show the correct way, especially if funding is provided, I'm certain many will take the opportunity. They are doing it for free already, might as well teach the safe way and then it is something worthwhile to add to the CV as well.
Why did you not Include a traffic officer for information on unauthorised lamps... And the definitions of emergency vehicles as per the National Road traffic act/act 93/1996.
First responders can and do have their value, provided they are adequately trained via a set standard like here in the Cape, work with and via EMS channels feeding the correct info to control rooms for required resources etc. There are a lot of concerns in this particular situation with 9 different groups, fighting over patients and filming of patients and and and. First Aid should be taught at school to every child, my daughter was 13 when she saved her hockey coach, she witnessed him collapse and ran over pushed everyone out of the way and started cpr and brought him back before ems arrived. So the age issue is not an issue. EMS is not for everyone, its a calling
Im a level 2 first aid and there is a lot you can and can't do. If you're part of a community policing group you can have green lights fitted and very important that you have your documentation with you.
This country has too many people doing jobs that they are not qualified for. And we still have BEE . Really if we all work together life hopefully will be a lot better for everyone .
If you want to be a first responder go for the proper qualification and go work in that industry it will help way more in so much ways than self proclaimed professionals
If the passion is already there, why not close the loop with training, at least with Basic Ambulance assistant to start with. I'll even help/guide/mentor/sponsor such a dedicated person. I started as a volunteer and, with help of many selfless EMS personnel, I made all the way to Advanced Life Support Paramedic. We fully endorse regulations and proper accreditation, but let us not get draconian and throw the baby out with the bath water.
Maybe the question should be "Why are civilians having to do this in the first place? Where are the government services we pay for with taxes??" Rather start at the root of the problem. It is actually ridiculous..
As an ex-Law Enforcement Officer I completely agree with the experts, only registered Emergency Vehicles are allowed to display Red, Blue and other colored flashing lights and sirens, these "first responders" are indeed breaking more than one law and should be prosecuted. They endanger other road users lives with their reckless driven, also note that "Armed Response" and private Security vehicles are NOT Emergency Vehicles and Have to obey the Traffic Laws like any other Citizen.
Me too. What are your thoughts on Fire Departments now also sporting blue lights? The Road Traffic Act specifically governs what they MAY use, but if they're setting an example - official services - why should others bother to comply, right?
@@GarthvanZyl-Medicare-EMR NRTA Regs Part 1 176. Identification lamps (3) (a) Subject to paragraph (b), no person shall operate a motor vehicle fitted with, or in or on which is displayed, a lamp or lamps emitting a blue light or capable of emitting a blue light. (b) The provisions of paragraph (a) does not apply to a motor vehicle operated by a member of the Service or a member of a municipal police service, both as defined in section 1 of the South African Police Service Act, 1995 (Act No. 68 of 1995), or a **traffic officer**, or a member of the South African Defence Force authorised in terms of section 87 (1) (g) of the Defence Act, 1957 (Act No. 44 of 1957) to perform police functions, in the execution of his or her duties. (c) A motor vehicle referred to in paragraph (b) may be fitted with a lamp or lamps emitting an intermittently-flashing- (i) blue light; (ii) blue and amber light; (iii) **blue and red light; ** or (iv) blue, amber and red light, in any direction
These people drive like so dangerously I almost got hit by one of them at a robot and they where easily doing 100 plus into on coming traffic at the light
They are keen and needed out there. Train them, get them qualified, and let them do what they like and enjoy. Obviously lay the rules and the law out and clear to them about filming at the accident scenes, and the 15-year-old. But to me channel their positive energy towards the right direction.
Spot on. If the passion is already there, why not close the loop with training, at least with Basic Ambulance assistant to start with. I'll even help/guide/mentor/sponsor such a dedicated person. I started as a volunteer and, with help of many selfless EMS personnel, I made all the way to Advanced Life Support Paramedic. We fully endorse regulations and proper accreditation, but let us not get draconian and throw the baby out with the bath water.
You wouldn’t board a plane if you knew the pilot was unqualified, so why some people trying to justify UNTRAINED and unqualified first responders is beyond me.
I did the same training for the office but i barely used it as we now work from home but even when we don neighbourhood watch i wont attempt it we jst call ambulance
Arrest them all! If they want the training its available. For them its ego, likes and social media before going through the effort of doing the training. Shocking shocking shocking 🇿🇦
If you watch it again and listen to what Stan said, someone being there to stop the bleed or to initiate cpr could very much save a life. The basics saves lives every day. However responders providing invasive therapy is questionable, if they were running around claiming to be medics they could be charged criminally under the health act, but nowhere did I hear any of them make that claim though. First aiders require consent, whether expressed or implied, patient has right to refuse treatment. The flipside of the coin is that if the first aider is trained and proficient in the skill of putting up iv's and has the patients permission to do so, there is nothing one can do as they have the patients permission
A basic ambulance assistant is a level 5 and is the first qualification to register with the hpcsa and that is a supervised qualification , first aid certificate expire after 3 years where you must do a refresher you are not allowed to treat a pt with even oxygen, a BAA can't even declare a pt dead how can a first aider ,they are not first responders, they are first aider
You can no longer do refreshers, it has changed, have to do the course over. Then a BAA can declare a pt dead, they just cant fill out the declaration. Think about it, the head is here and the body is there...pt is dead clearly, as a BAA you can choose to inititate a resus or not based on whether there are any signs of life, but if arriving on scene and cpr has been initiated they have to continue according to the protocol.
You can not do baa anymore, it's now 1year,2 years ECT ,3 years DIP or 4 years ECP O AND MASTERS . COURSE FOR BAA ,AEA ,CCA WAS STOP SO YOU CAN NOT DO BAA FROM FRESH
@@GarthvanZyl-Medicare-EMR i started as an volunteer at fire brigade when i was at school i have more then 20 jear service in ems working from 2009 at dept of health (EMS) limpopo
the child larping as a medic takes the cake. not surprised about the adults doing it since in sa everything is about the money, but that takes it to a whole new level. this of course begs the question... why does sa need, tolerate and encourage private everything? there is police atop the police, paramilitary security companies atop the army.. medical atop the actual medical facilities... only country in the world that goes that far. perhaps because at some point everybody in government benefits from that financially. and here another episode about the small people squabbling over peanuts that the government could shut down overnight with a few legislative changes.
@@GarthvanZyl-Medicare-EMR which goes back to my point about the government ensuring it is that way... personally i will never submit to a private rent a cop. seeing these yahoos chase people in the roads over false tags and nonsense like that is just sad.
If it's this kind of response or nothing then I'd rather have these folk doing what they can until an ambulance and real paramedics arrive. I'm sure there are instances of lives they have saved. Why not mention those in this story? Someone thankful these folk arrived when they did.
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Please make a story of tow truck companies stealing cars from accident scenes or asking for big money as storage fees after towing half dying people's vehicles away.
Drama never stops in Brakpan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I agree... Get the qualification and THEN help the respective patients... That 15 year old will need to start seeing someone as PTSD is a very real issue!
Very true. My thoughts exactly. It could manifest in some paradoxical way later on in his life. The adrenalin rush can only suppress negative images up to a point, then a mature mind is required.
had me in stitches "paintball gun" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They think life is call of duty
Afriforum neighborhood watch kids, a bunch of clowns. Illegal stopping of vehicles, search and "arrests" while also using the "white strobe lights" that is actually only designated to be used by registered PSIRA businesses and PSIRA Level C Armed response with a valid certificate.
Maybe they should receive training? They certainly seem like they have the will and interest for driving their passion to help people.
Maybe the kid… the mother (and others like her) are probably too set in their ways.
Sitting for studies has no adrenaline. They would not last in class. Unfortunately.
@@BatsiraiMusuka What do you mean by too set in their ways?
@@IanMulwitsky they obviously enjoy what they do immensely and they have been doing it for much longer than the green eared young ones.
It’s easier to change someone who still is learning the ropes than for you to try the same on an “expert”.
@@BatsiraiMusukaWhy? You use obviously quite a bit. If given a chance to show the correct way, especially if funding is provided, I'm certain many will take the opportunity. They are doing it for free already, might as well teach the safe way and then it is something worthwhile to add to the CV as well.
@@BatsiraiMusuka You are being presumptuous.
Was wondering what the catch was. Social media
Why did you not Include a traffic officer for information on unauthorised lamps... And the definitions of emergency vehicles as per the National Road traffic act/act 93/1996.
Information poorly collected.
What about the POPI act? How can this be allowed to post Scenes on Social Media?
Here in the townships they rob the paramedics
Unbelievable. Dashing around filming for social media. That is absolutely disgusting. More low than the ANC with all their corruption.
First responders can and do have their value, provided they are adequately trained via a set standard like here in the Cape, work with and via EMS channels feeding the correct info to control rooms for required resources etc.
There are a lot of concerns in this particular situation with 9 different groups, fighting over patients and filming of patients and and and. First Aid should be taught at school to every child, my daughter was 13 when she saved her hockey coach, she witnessed him collapse and ran over pushed everyone out of the way and started cpr and brought him back before ems arrived. So the age issue is not an issue. EMS is not for everyone, its a calling
Im a level 2 first aid and there is a lot you can and can't do. If you're part of a community policing group you can have green lights fitted and very important that you have your documentation with you.
Green lights is only to be used by Disaster Risk Management CPF can only use a white solid beam that does not flash according to the road traffic act
But level 2 first aid is nothing in terms of patient treatment. There is basically no scope
This country has too many people doing jobs that they are not qualified for. And we still have BEE . Really if we all work together life hopefully will be a lot better for everyone .
If you want to be a first responder go for the proper qualification and go work in that industry it will help way more in so much ways than self proclaimed professionals
I agree with the experts. She and the rest of the unqualified first responders need to get the proper training if they want to continue.
If the passion is already there, why not close the loop with training, at least with Basic Ambulance assistant to start with. I'll even help/guide/mentor/sponsor such a dedicated person. I started as a volunteer and, with help of many selfless EMS personnel, I made all the way to Advanced Life Support Paramedic. We fully endorse regulations and proper accreditation, but let us not get draconian and throw the baby out with the bath water.
Maybe the question should be "Why are civilians having to do this in the first place? Where are the government services we pay for with taxes??" Rather start at the root of the problem. It is actually ridiculous..
Exactly
I'm nit watching Carte Blanche on Mnet any more there are more adverts than Carte Blanche 😢
As an ex-Law Enforcement Officer I completely agree with the experts, only registered Emergency Vehicles are allowed to display Red, Blue and other colored flashing lights and sirens, these "first responders" are indeed breaking more than one law and should be prosecuted. They endanger other road users lives with their reckless driven, also note that "Armed Response" and private Security vehicles are NOT Emergency Vehicles and Have to obey the Traffic Laws like any other Citizen.
Me too. What are your thoughts on Fire Departments now also sporting blue lights? The Road Traffic Act specifically governs what they MAY use, but if they're setting an example - official services - why should others bother to comply, right?
Same question is to be asked with some provincial traffic vehicles having blue and red lights...
@@GarthvanZyl-Medicare-EMR
NRTA Regs Part 1
176. Identification lamps
(3) (a) Subject to paragraph (b), no person shall operate a motor vehicle fitted
with, or in or on which is displayed, a lamp or lamps emitting a blue light or capable of
emitting a blue light.
(b) The provisions of paragraph (a) does not apply to a motor vehicle
operated by a member of the Service or a member of a municipal police service, both
as defined in section 1 of the South African Police Service Act, 1995 (Act No. 68 of
1995), or a **traffic officer**, or a member of the South African Defence Force authorised
in terms of section 87 (1) (g) of the Defence Act, 1957 (Act No. 44 of 1957) to
perform police functions, in the execution of his or her duties.
(c) A motor vehicle referred to in paragraph (b) may be fitted with a lamp or
lamps emitting an intermittently-flashing-
(i) blue light;
(ii) blue and amber light;
(iii) **blue and red light; ** or
(iv) blue, amber and red light,
in any direction
@@Vikingza Yes. I was about to quote that as well. But this does not apply to fire trucks, as I mentioned.
These people drive like so dangerously I almost got hit by one of them at a robot and they where easily doing 100 plus into on coming traffic at the light
They are keen and needed out there. Train them, get them qualified, and let them do what they like and enjoy. Obviously lay the rules and the law out and clear to them about filming at the accident scenes, and the 15-year-old. But to me channel their positive energy towards the right direction.
Spot on. If the passion is already there, why not close the loop with training, at least with Basic Ambulance assistant to start with. I'll even help/guide/mentor/sponsor such a dedicated person. I started as a volunteer and, with help of many selfless EMS personnel, I made all the way to Advanced Life Support Paramedic. We fully endorse regulations and proper accreditation, but let us not get draconian and throw the baby out with the bath water.
Geepez next it’s Molly performing emergency surgery at the local butcher. 😂 ⌛️✔️
😂😂😂😂 in this country of ours that is a possibility!
Molly catching strays😂😂
Wow listening to this is so so scary. How are these people able to assist people who are suffering. I want an efficient person helping me 😮
Paramedics or Ambulance Drivers... Who has Ambulance drivers ? Everyone has a registered Qualification working on Ambulances
Netcare has Ambulance drivers, ie lowest qualified person on the bus, highest qualification treating patient
why unless you just want some sort of legal way to commit murder?
Please upload the Andre interview.
Why the delay or are you captured by the ANC
We also have some rogue responders in Namibia it's a serious matter.
You wouldn’t board a plane if you knew the pilot was unqualified, so why some people trying to justify UNTRAINED and unqualified first responders is beyond me.
They are trained in first aid, whether the training received is adequate is an entire different story
“Paintball gun” 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did the same training for the office but i barely used it as we now work from home but even when we don neighbourhood watch i wont attempt it we jst call ambulance
“First, do no harm”
They are gambling with people's lives.
Reminds me of the film Night Crawlers
Arrest them all! If they want the training its available. For them its ego, likes and social media before going through the effort of doing the training. Shocking shocking shocking 🇿🇦
I'll drive around Brakpan from now on. Now now Reinette & Son wants to incorporate me into the afterlife driver's association. I'll dodge this bullet
Can only be Brakpan😂
Sadly all over
I rather take my chances than waiting on 10111 who might not even pitch up on time.
Or pitch at all
You're probably right. 😒
😂😂😂😂😂 guy with paintball gun story is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
Train & Regulate them with a statutory body that monitors & have legally binding disciplinary outcomes for wrong doings
Super Mike CEO , 😂is loosing business in brakpan 😂😂😂
If the government is too pathetic and useless to do their work, be thankful that there is someone willing to help. 🤦🤬
Clearly there are some parts of the show you didn't watch.
If you watch it again and listen to what Stan said, someone being there to stop the bleed or to initiate cpr could very much save a life. The basics saves lives every day. However responders providing invasive therapy is questionable, if they were running around claiming to be medics they could be charged criminally under the health act, but nowhere did I hear any of them make that claim though. First aiders require consent, whether expressed or implied, patient has right to refuse treatment. The flipside of the coin is that if the first aider is trained and proficient in the skill of putting up iv's and has the patients permission to do so, there is nothing one can do as they have the patients permission
As Soon as it is Posted on Facebook, that is the problem...
You see this is the biggest down side of unemployment
This is insanity 😮
They must go do the proper courses for that.
they are over stepping the line
😮😮😮😮!!! I only heard her voice as I completed chores as this episode played. I thought she was on a substance.😞
5:31.. 👀"Where do you want to deploy me?" ..Sounds like a mental health issue there.😳
Know some of them the ego part is very true hope this opened some eyes
A basic ambulance assistant is a level 5 and is the first qualification to register with the hpcsa and that is a supervised qualification , first aid certificate expire after 3 years where you must do a refresher you are not allowed to treat a pt with even oxygen, a BAA can't even declare a pt dead how can a first aider ,they are not first responders, they are first aider
You can no longer do refreshers, it has changed, have to do the course over. Then a BAA can declare a pt dead, they just cant fill out the declaration. Think about it, the head is here and the body is there...pt is dead clearly, as a BAA you can choose to inititate a resus or not based on whether there are any signs of life, but if arriving on scene and cpr has been initiated they have to continue according to the protocol.
You can not do baa anymore, it's now 1year,2 years ECT ,3 years DIP or 4 years ECP O AND MASTERS . COURSE FOR BAA ,AEA ,CCA WAS STOP SO YOU CAN NOT DO BAA FROM FRESH
Thanks, I have been in EMS 20yrs now ;)
@@GarthvanZyl-Medicare-EMR i started as an volunteer at fire brigade when i was at school i have more then 20 jear service in ems working from 2009 at dept of health (EMS) limpopo
These do-gooders are trouble.
the child larping as a medic takes the cake. not surprised about the adults doing it since in sa everything is about the money, but that takes it to a whole new level. this of course begs the question... why does sa need, tolerate and encourage private everything? there is police atop the police, paramilitary security companies atop the army.. medical atop the actual medical facilities... only country in the world that goes that far. perhaps because at some point everybody in government benefits from that financially. and here another episode about the small people squabbling over peanuts that the government could shut down overnight with a few legislative changes.
Its about service delivery and the lack thereof which has resulted in the creation of the private services.
@@GarthvanZyl-Medicare-EMR which goes back to my point about the government ensuring it is that way... personally i will never submit to a private rent a cop. seeing these yahoos chase people in the roads over false tags and nonsense like that is just sad.
Maybe they must get proper training 😮!
Stay at home and watch 7de Laan tannie... ffs let the pros do it. Get a fuggen job
And die waiting...
That’s what you get in Brakpan…
The place they lock their kids up at night so the animals can go out to play
Yoh brakpan is full of crazy taanies.
They just bored rich people playing with people's lives
Rich people in Brakpan...doubt it
Lol paintball gun😂🤣
If it's this kind of response or nothing then I'd rather have these folk doing what they can until an ambulance and real paramedics arrive. I'm sure there are instances of lives they have saved. Why not mention those in this story? Someone thankful these folk arrived when they did.
Only in Brakpan🤣
If you don't have a license to respond and are not equipped to deal with it to boot, then you should be locked up cause you are a fraud
License to respond? They are equipped clearly and have a first aid qualification.
These people watch too much TV.
Omw die wilde weste😅😂
Brakpan 😂
What a joke
only in brakpan...... speaking english delishshly.......
Please stop using the words ambulance drivers. It's offensive to us. They are medics, paramedics and rescue technicians
😂 dom redneck boere