Yeah I'd definitely be interested in seeing more of this mate. During times like this, most churches are having to livestream or do prerecorded broadcasts online. So it would be good to get an idea through your constructive criticisms as to what to do and what not to do. Font was never something I thought too much about, so good to know.
Hey, Jake! John-Marc here, I’m the director of worship arts at Ahop Church, the second stream you reviewed. Jason shared a bit of what we do but not exactly how we get our audio to where it is. We do not run off the foh feed. We actually have a completely separate board in a studio recovering 32 channels from our stage box. From there I am sending everything into a Mac computer running protools and specifically Luke’s template which you promoted and I purchased...so thanks a ton!!! We have been experimenting and learning as we go but I will say that waves real time tune is far better for us than any other plugin for our vox. Can’t recommend this template or the plugins you recommend enough!!!! We do run our system slightly different than Luke does but only because I like an insurance policy. The soundcraft board acts as my back up should the protools session crash, which has happened. Not much but it can happen. We mix the template session first and then the best version we can off the board. That said, there is absolutely no comparison. Thanks again for all you have done to help churches like ours and just so you know, our pastor watched your feedback and immediately said, “let’s get the cameras we need.” Thanks again and blessings on all you do bro!!
So helpful for us just beginning to realize that our simple livestream have so much room for improvement. Cameras, lights, audio, and software reviews will help us adjust, so please keep reviewing what others are doing. Thanks!
Awesome conversation and feedback given. I think more of this kind of thing is what can practically help a lot of us in the church production world get better!
Super helpful to see these reviews! Thanks for doing this. Our church is nowhere near the production level of the churches reviewed in this video, but it's nice to get tips like these along the way so we're setting a framework for scalability as we look to increase our production level one phase at a time.
Man dude love this video! Also love seeing you do some stuff with my friends over at Austin Stone. I love those guys, and a couple of their leaders have poured into some over the years. I think it’s really cool to see God using this channel and the fruit that’s come from that. I remember when you had like 4K subs, and man you really were faithful to what God had given y’all with that. Think it’s cool how many people God has reached and even maybe recharged through this. Love it man! Keep dwelling in that land.
I think this is helpful. Very few churches have "pros" to help them evaluate and make adjustments. Like one comment, I think having others on-screen with you might give some perspective or alternate ideas than what has worked for you in your situations. We all need constructive help, no matter where we serve :) Thank you, Jake, for thinking of us in making this sort of video.
Hi Jake. What console (Universal Audio Interface) are you using @ 2:10 - Our team could really use an audiometer. We have a member (normally myself when I'm not on location or my wife) that monitors the audio and video quality from home (to portray the user's point of view).
At 12:40 you mention using a vocal tuning plugin. Is that some you just suggest for the mix that is going out to the livestream or could that be a common practice for the house mix to help tone challenged individuals? I know that it just made to correct slight variations and not notes that are completely out of the ball park, but just wondering.
Agree totally. I saw some of the videos that were posted in the fb group and was excited to see feedback on them since they were smaller. Over 50 percent of churches in america are under 100 people and don't have the resources that the churches we just saw do.
I can't find an easy way to put an audio level meter for the your tube video like you did with your Universal Audio Interface in PC... I would like to monitor my levels coming out of youtube in real time... any advice? I want to do it with just a laptop connected to the internet and the yt streaming on.
Second stream sounds great, volume is spot on and clarity and balance is great. I would probably use some different reverbs if possible (ie plates) as they sound a little bit better for streams in my opinion. Halls tend to get a bit boxy or washed out
we are using a x32 and is using a bus mix then sending it to a camera then going back into a pc my question is should the audio feed go direct to the camera or the pc ?
Would really like to know how often this is done. There are a couple of things that I want to fix, but soon after I would love to submit our livestream for an honest review.
6:39 Practicality question: When you have a frame like that, would it not be better to disable the lower thirds for the online user momentarily because the camera is basically displaying the lyrics?
I would think having a consistent place where lyrics are would be better than making people hunt over the screen if the camera should change. Just my first thoughts.
need help - - our wireless mics have a on of interference - we can't find a clear channel - makes live streaming a nightmare...have you done a video on this???
Drum bleed in the 4th one is most likely due to off gain stage throughout the overall audio design. My church went though The exact same thing when starting to use a DAW for broadcast. I came on staff and found an overuse of compression to make quiet things loud and loud things quiet. There might be an overuse of compression on the 4th livestream.
Great content from you and the churches...maybe it was me but it seemed the first two were off on audio sync. Just a little behind the audio. We are a small church and produce nothing like any of these but we had to adjust the audio to delay to match the video. Thanks for all your videos, been watching a lot trying to learn how to make do with what we have. Our church is brand new into livestreaming. Audio is kicking my tail...grrrr!
Getting the audio right is the hardest part about live-streaming a church service. Keep at it, every incremental change you make from week to week will eventually lead up to something you are happy with.
Hey, does anybody take a different approach to monitor your live stream mix from your DAW other than setting up an aggregate device with an interface? Wondering if there's a more efficient way to do this...
I totally have a question in regards to BMPCC4K and 6K camera’s for live streaming. It’s often suggested but people rarely say what kind of LUTs work best to use with it and where to go to download it. Can you suggest some popular LUTS you’ve seen people use for live streaming with those camera’s?
We use one of the built-in luts. i cannot remember the exact name of it, but it's on the second page of luts in the menu and it has the most natural look with sufficient contrast and ratio.
Our live stream is struggling right now. We are using a HC-VX870 Panasonic plug-in to a cam link to a Mac book pro then going live on Facebook. I am using a hot spot from my phone for now. Any suggestions?
Two big problems with churches getting into live streaming at this time. 1. Listing to way way too much bad information about how to go about it. I can't even say enough about the bad info. 2. Buying cameras that want perform well in average church lighting. Your lighting may look good to the human eye sitting inside of your church. Does not mean it will look good to a cheap/low budget camera with a small sensor. Tips on buying a camera, buy a video camera, you're doing video not stills. If you're going to use a fluid head (for pan/tilt) and or run cables long distance (over 20') buy SDI not HDMI output, it will be about $500. But you want need to buy adapters and other hardware. Buy one with at least 1 inch sensor or at least 1/2.84 inch. Examples with SDI output, Canon XA55 or XA15. Examples with HDMI output, Canon XA45 or XA11 there are other brands with similar specs. Less face it you could start streaming this Sunday with a smartphone and a TH-cam or Facebook account and wouldn't cost ya a dime. Pick out a couple of churches in your area that's doing a good job at streaming and go look at how they are doing it. Hopefully you can find one or two that's been doing it for several years. There's lots of good info in this video about lots of big mistake$$$. Good job Jake!
" I saw the vision from Jesus. On the right side of the valley behind the pit and 2 ghouls I saw a crooked path of circle saws made for cutting made of rusted silver and gold. Not more than four in a row. No machine making them spin counter clockwise and whirring. " Wesley Lawrence Curry II
The vocals in stream #4 sound super boxy/ “tubular”??. I would pic a different reverb and use a bit more of it just to seat the vocals back a bit more. Overall the instruments could also be much more prominent
I SAW, IN A VISION FROM JESUS, A VALLEY AT NIGHT. A FULL MOON WITH A BRONZE AURA IN A STARLESS NIGHT SKY. I COULD NOT TELL ON THE HORIZON IF IT WAS MORNING OR EVENING.
@@ZTTowell Hi! We have a very limited amount of equipment. We use a canon t6 with the canon webcam softwere, OBS studio and the lyrics program is Holyrics Thanks in advance for your willingness
Re: church 3... Bands and vocalists who aren't pros tend to get louder when they get excited and when the tempo gets faster. In most cases, they also play/sing a lot louder on the first song than they did in rehearsal!
Im gonna disagree about the 3rd church’s acoustic guitar. It was a tad bit too loud, but with some practice they can figure out how to have the acoustic guitar seated a little more than a shaker. It looks silly seeing members onstage using instruments that we never hear
Yeah I'd definitely be interested in seeing more of this mate.
During times like this, most churches are having to livestream or do prerecorded broadcasts online.
So it would be good to get an idea through your constructive criticisms as to what to do and what not to do.
Font was never something I thought too much about, so good to know.
Yes, please make more of this content, we can learn a lot from this.
agreed
Please continue this bro...!
Hey, Jake! John-Marc here, I’m the director of worship arts at Ahop Church, the second stream you reviewed. Jason shared a bit of what we do but not exactly how we get our audio to where it is. We do not run off the foh feed. We actually have a completely separate board in a studio recovering 32 channels from our stage box. From there I am sending everything into a Mac computer running protools and specifically Luke’s template which you promoted and I purchased...so thanks a ton!!! We have been experimenting and learning as we go but I will say that waves real time tune is far better for us than any other plugin for our vox. Can’t recommend this template or the plugins you recommend enough!!!! We do run our system slightly different than Luke does but only because I like an insurance policy. The soundcraft board acts as my back up should the protools session crash, which has happened. Not much but it can happen. We mix the template session first and then the best version we can off the board. That said, there is absolutely no comparison. Thanks again for all you have done to help churches like ours and just so you know, our pastor watched your feedback and immediately said, “let’s get the cameras we need.”
Thanks again and blessings on all you do bro!!
Great idea. I'd totally participate, slept on the socials this time around.
Yes. Definitely make this a regular feature. It is very informative and helpful.
So helpful for us just beginning to realize that our simple livestream have so much room for improvement. Cameras, lights, audio, and software reviews will help us adjust, so please keep reviewing what others are doing. Thanks!
Jake these are awesome comments/critique. Super cool of you to do this and share your expertise.
Nice Jake! Keep it up because it is good to hear your comments and review!
Awesome conversation and feedback given. I think more of this kind of thing is what can practically help a lot of us in the church production world get better!
Super helpful to see these reviews! Thanks for doing this. Our church is nowhere near the production level of the churches reviewed in this video, but it's nice to get tips like these along the way so we're setting a framework for scalability as we look to increase our production level one phase at a time.
Man dude love this video! Also love seeing you do some stuff with my friends over at Austin Stone. I love those guys, and a couple of their leaders have poured into some over the years. I think it’s really cool to see God using this channel and the fruit that’s come from that. I remember when you had like 4K subs, and man you really were faithful to what God had given y’all with that. Think it’s cool how many people God has reached and even maybe recharged through this. Love it man! Keep dwelling in that land.
Thanks Christian!
Such a great video, as we are able to learn a lot for those who are not fully up with live broadcast yet. More videos will be appreciated.
Yes keep doing these. Our church is just getting into live/pre-recorded streaming. I am learning tonnes of stuff!!!
I think this is helpful. Very few churches have "pros" to help them evaluate and make adjustments. Like one comment, I think having others on-screen with you might give some perspective or alternate ideas than what has worked for you in your situations. We all need constructive help, no matter where we serve :) Thank you, Jake, for thinking of us in making this sort of video.
This was really good! I would love to see more.
Great content. Please continue these videos I’ve learned a lot since watching your videos. Keep up the great work!
Hi Jake. What console (Universal Audio Interface) are you using @ 2:10 - Our team could really use an audiometer. We have a member (normally myself when I'm not on location or my wife) that monitors the audio and video quality from home (to portray the user's point of view).
Yes! Would love to see more!
Hi, yes please make it a regular thing. This is the best way to learn for our own live streaming experience
At 12:40 you mention using a vocal tuning plugin. Is that some you just suggest for the mix that is going out to the livestream or could that be a common practice for the house mix to help tone challenged individuals? I know that it just made to correct slight variations and not notes that are completely out of the ball park, but just wondering.
the vocals in the 2nd vid is awesome.
man and woman's voice is perfect.
such gift..
I have serious issues with the audio mix - the snare and HH are lost in the second video.
Yeah Graves into Gardens sounded alright. God of Revival sounded super dark and the snare was nowhere to be found.
There was a snare?
agreed. the 2nd mix was rough
Some good info pointed out in all 4 videos reviewed. Thanks Jake.
Thanks for the review Jake. As always, great comments and feedback for our livestream!
Good stuff to think through. Thanks for the help. Time to go check out Mission Lakewood's live stream... ;)
Enjoyed watching and think you did a great job with overall content! xo
Keep doing this type of video, we are new to live stream and learned a lot since looking at your video.
*sigh* wish you showed smaller churches. Maybe some Latino churches
I feel that. We don't have the biggest budget and seeing majority of the tips being spend more money is kinda disheartening
Agree totally. I saw some of the videos that were posted in the fb group and was excited to see feedback on them since they were smaller. Over 50 percent of churches in america are under 100 people and don't have the resources that the churches we just saw do.
Jake this was really cool. I’d love it if you kept this up.
Great! Thank you, I'd love to see more of this. ☺️
I can't find an easy way to put an audio level meter for the your tube video like you did with your Universal Audio Interface in PC... I would like to monitor my levels coming out of youtube in real time... any advice? I want to do it with just a laptop connected to the internet and the yt streaming on.
Great work.... I would love to see more of these kinds of videos too. Learned a lot of it
Yes please continue. Vrry helpful.
Second stream sounds great, volume is spot on and clarity and balance is great. I would probably use some different reverbs if possible (ie plates) as they sound a little bit better for streams in my opinion. Halls tend to get a bit boxy or washed out
Looking forward to much more of this, really appreciate it.
we are using a x32 and is using a bus mix then sending it to a camera then going back into a pc my question is should the audio feed go direct to the camera or the pc ?
Would really like to know how often this is done. There are a couple of things that I want to fix, but soon after I would love to submit our livestream for an honest review.
love this video!!! please make more!!!
love from the Philippines! As a media director, your videos really helped me
I love watching your content!! can you do a part 2 please? I'd appreciate if you can review my congregation's live streams.
Super helpful. Great to learn from real examples and foster a supportive community.
Question. Why don’t projector screens look good on camera?
Please make this a regular thing!
6:39 Practicality question: When you have a frame like that, would it not be better to disable the lower thirds for the online user momentarily because the camera is basically displaying the lyrics?
I would think having a consistent place where lyrics are would be better than making people hunt over the screen if the camera should change. Just my first thoughts.
need help - - our wireless mics have a on of interference - we can't find a clear channel - makes live streaming a nightmare...have you done a video on this???
Great. Please do more. 👍🏼👍🏼
Yeees pleaseee would love to see more of these
Love this video. It would be cool if you kind of made it a series and then had guests help you review the services
Yes please do more. This video makes me embarrassed to show our live stream lol
That was great! Keep doing this content pleasee
yes love this!! so helpful! Thanks!!
On bright setups use shadows on the font
Yes please, do more.
Man, would love to see another one of these for sure. 🙌
Drum bleed in the 4th one is most likely due to off gain stage throughout the overall audio design. My church went though
The exact same thing when starting to use a DAW for broadcast. I came on staff and found an overuse of compression to make quiet things loud and loud things quiet. There might be an overuse of compression on the 4th livestream.
Great content from you and the churches...maybe it was me but it seemed the first two were off on audio sync. Just a little behind the audio. We are a small church and produce nothing like any of these but we had to adjust the audio to delay to match the video. Thanks for all your videos, been watching a lot trying to learn how to make do with what we have. Our church is brand new into livestreaming. Audio is kicking my tail...grrrr!
Getting the audio right is the hardest part about live-streaming a church service. Keep at it, every incremental change you make from week to week will eventually lead up to something you are happy with.
@@bctaberah Thanks for the encouragement. God's word is definitely bigger than my poor audio.
Hey can you do a video on different hardware encoders?
Hey, does anybody take a different approach to monitor your live stream mix from your DAW other than setting up an aggregate device with an interface?
Wondering if there's a more efficient way to do this...
I totally have a question in regards to BMPCC4K and 6K camera’s for live streaming. It’s often suggested but people rarely say what kind of LUTs work best to use with it and where to go to download it. Can you suggest some popular LUTS you’ve seen people use for live streaming with those camera’s?
We use one of the built-in luts. i cannot remember the exact name of it, but it's on the second page of luts in the menu and it has the most natural look with sufficient contrast and ratio.
@@Churchfront Thank you so much!
This is a very good content! You should make this content continue!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great video. Definitely more of this!
Thank you so much for sharing your input. Are you still reviewing live streams? It would be amazing to get feedback on my church live stream.
Which font was the recommended font that Bethel uses? I can't find it.
All Caps Futura - found it
Hey Jake, great video. I’d love to see this become a regular upload. Also, when’s the next tech tour coming out? Love watching those.
Finishing up the Life.Church tech tour. Coming early November.
I’ll be watching! Thanks
More, please! Yes!
I absolutely loved this!!
More please!!!
Is Churchfront like Stormfront but for Christians?
id love to see more!!
Yes please do make this a series, on a bi-weekly basis, if weekly is too much for you, but I would love to see more of this!
Thanks for this! More please
Yeah super informative, would love to see more of these
Yes, please do more videos like this!
Do a few more of these.
Our live stream is struggling right now. We are using a HC-VX870 Panasonic plug-in to a cam link to a Mac book pro then going live on Facebook. I am using a hot spot from my phone for now. Any suggestions?
This was indeed very helpful for me
Great reviews!
Jesus Church doesn't need tuning...but, the vocals need a little compression, and the cymbals are a bit too bright.
Church 4 sounded like there was a noise suppression. Not a fan
Sounds like weird phasing issues in #4
The first stream audio could definitely be louder and it sounds a bit thin so maybe some more low mids
Yes please!
Great content
Please make it regular. The differences in the church livestreams can bring up different strategies and ideas.
On your master out I would rather use a limiter
heck yes, way more of these!!!
Two big problems with churches getting into live streaming at this time. 1. Listing to way way too much bad information about how to go about it. I can't even say enough about the bad info. 2. Buying cameras that want perform well in average church lighting. Your lighting may look good to the human eye sitting inside of your church. Does not mean it will look good to a cheap/low budget camera with a small sensor. Tips on buying a camera, buy a video camera, you're doing video not stills. If you're going to use a fluid head (for pan/tilt) and or run cables long distance (over 20') buy SDI not HDMI output, it will be about $500. But you want need to buy adapters and other hardware. Buy one with at least 1 inch sensor or at least 1/2.84 inch. Examples with SDI output, Canon XA55 or XA15. Examples with HDMI output, Canon XA45 or XA11 there are other brands with similar specs. Less face it you could start streaming this Sunday with a smartphone and a TH-cam or Facebook account and wouldn't cost ya a dime. Pick out a couple of churches in your area that's doing a good job at streaming and go look at how they are doing it. Hopefully you can find one or two that's been doing it for several years. There's lots of good info in this video about lots of big mistake$$$. Good job Jake!
Yes. more please.
can you de-lint your your SM7b? :) :) :)
i like my lint lol
Keep it up! Very interesting!
Love this type of video
" I saw the vision from Jesus. On the right side of the valley behind the pit and 2 ghouls I saw a crooked path of circle saws made for cutting made of rusted silver and gold. Not more than four in a row. No machine making them spin counter clockwise and whirring. " Wesley Lawrence Curry II
The vocals in stream #4 sound super boxy/ “tubular”??. I would pic a different reverb and use a bit more of it just to seat the vocals back a bit more. Overall the instruments could also be much more prominent
Sounds like comb-filtering, and also sounds like they used a backing drum track.
I SAW, IN A VISION FROM JESUS, A VALLEY AT NIGHT. A FULL MOON WITH A BRONZE AURA IN A STARLESS NIGHT SKY. I COULD NOT TELL ON THE HORIZON IF IT WAS MORNING OR EVENING.
I just wanted to know how to put the lyrics of the songs during the broadcast. I didn't find anything that worked. I love your videos!
What equipment are you using? I can help.
@@ZTTowell Hi! We have a very limited amount of equipment. We use a canon t6 with the canon webcam softwere, OBS studio and the lyrics program is Holyrics
Thanks in advance for your willingness
More!
Love the comments I would love to see more
Re: church 3... Bands and vocalists who aren't pros tend to get louder when they get excited and when the tempo gets faster. In most cases, they also play/sing a lot louder on the first song than they did in rehearsal!
Im gonna disagree about the 3rd church’s acoustic guitar. It was a tad bit too loud, but with some practice they can figure out how to have the acoustic guitar seated a little more than a shaker. It looks silly seeing members onstage using instruments that we never hear