You should have titled this "13 perfectly sensible cars that were totally acceptable in the markets they were designed for but would have been derided in the USA because they weren't 18 feet long and didn't have huge, gas guzzling V8 engines."
Please, Non-dependable Build quality. and reliability. Iffy handling in the wet. Rust problems. A Colin Chapmen feature? to add lightness? Shame I might not be able to ever see the beautiful body of the Dauphine. Because of durability. Simple fix have two engines, one in front, one in back? Then brakes and suspension to handle double the power.
@@Scorched-ww2nf - To base your opinion on this youtube video is very disappointing and naive. Lean the history of these cars, the people that bought them and the freedom it gave them. Then you might understand why they were so popular and truly loved. There were no highways in Europe back then, petrol was expensive and no cars had rust protection. They were available, cheap, reliable, efficient and economical transportation. That's all people wanted and could afford in post-war bankrupt Europe. Please learn your history my friend. It rains a lot in Europe.
@@tubacker As I said, It's a shame. I really would like to see this cars in person. But build quality is important. I am aware post war Europe was not the richest nations. War tends to do that. So I am aware that all material on TH-cam should be questioned. But so should your assumption that I believed the video. But so should the assumption that all Americans are the same. I find if someone is using generalizations, it's because they lack facts or logic IMO. The Author of the video also seems to fall into this.
@@Scorched-ww2nf My friend, you can still see these cars but you will have to search for them. Build quality was good enough and 8-10 years for a car of this era was a long time. Later cars of the 70's and 80's - Alfasud, Lancia, Leyland and Ford - to name a few, were worse and rust took all of them. Car's needed regular greasing and care to keep them on the roads and all cars broke down back them. You quoted directly from the video; handling? On cars that go 40mph with skinny cross-ply tyres, this wasn't really an issue, bumpy roads and potholes was. This was the dawn of mass motoring in Europe, so we cannot compare to modern standards. Cars were simple, light and had small engines but they were good enough for the time. I never mentioned Americans but I've had some of your cars. They they don't handle, they steering is too light and they roll around like jelly. Trim also cracks and bits still fall off. Climate played its part - a 2001 Mercedes I had (2yrs old) didn't like the heat in Dubai and regularly broke. However, the 1990 BMW I had in the UK was still perfect after 20 years. Sending wimpy little austerity cars across to compete with Yank tanks probably wasn't a great idea (although the VW beetle was popular) but they were cheap, efficient and economical. I see Japanese and Korean cars have already taken hold over there and next will be the Chinese. The ignorant producer of the video could really have a ball with the crappy Chinese, Korean, Russian and Polish cars of 25 years ago, if he's brave enough. They all copied the European ones he vilified so much. Cheers.
This is the crappiest video I have seen about classic cars from the past. This was a post war era when cars were for transportation not snobbish status symbols.
I agree, see how smart french and Italien cars were designed just for the purpose to move people . US was only producing cars with primitive suspensions and engines wasting the fuel and the space in the cities. And a Simca 1000 Rallye or Fiat 600 Abarth was faster on curvy roads then any American car.
Not to mention this video would, and should have been a quarter of the length, if whoever wrote this didn't keep repeating the same points over and over again.
Yeah, it’s production. Should’ve ended 1955. It’s kind of sad Citroen was perfectly able to build real cars like the ID and DS our something really exquisite like the like the SM withMaserati engine. That’s real car.
Our family owned 4 Citroen 2CV over the years. By the 70s/ 80s the car muscled up to nearly 30hp. Still didn't make it a rocket but it got us everywhere we needed to go. In winter, on snowy roads the car performed exceptionally well, taking hills where orher cars got stuck. But it was cold inside. Loved the car. There was a custom amongst 2CV drivers to greet each other on the road by flashing the headlights. Iconic and easy to recognize.
Let’s be real.The 2CV was and is and is a piece of shit. Even in the 50s it was slow andcumbersome. it never matured to being a real car. it is like a wardrobe from IKEA filled with the joke of an engine.
OK so let me see if I got this right.....the 2CV had 5 million units produced, covered rough roads and paddocks easily, was simple to work on, was inexpensive to run, was comfortable to travel in etc etc etc and yet it was a "crappy car". Whoever wrote this is an idiot, I owned a 2CV Dyane 6 for the year I lived in the UK, put 12.5 THOUSAND miles on it around Britain and Europe. The European trip was for 6 weeks with 3 adults and camping gear and it would sit on 60 mph all day on gently undulating roads and STILL get about 55 to 60 miles per gallon, it took us everywhere e wanted to go in comfort with a heater so good we could dry clothes inside it in winter even though it had a vinyl roll back roof. If I could've brought it back to Australia with me I would've, it was the best car I EVER owned.
Spot on. In some ways it resembled the Ford model T in that could drive anywhere and be used in a variety of roles. After all, a failure doesn't get produced in five million.
you still see occasional 2CV's running around the Lot et Garonne department of SW France and other rural areas? Its spin off was the fibre glass Mehari for the San Trop jet set.
I travelled round Europe in a Citroen Bijou. (plastic 2CV) when in Bulgaria at night I rounded a bend and found the road blocked by an unlit truck. I swung it right , over the ditch, bounced over the field and I am still here. No damage at all. Brilliant.
Calling Fiat 600, Citroen 2CV, Renault Dauphine, Simca 1000, Ford Anglia crappy cars is complewtely ridiculous. This is totally untrue as these vehicles were all excellent simple cars for the masses and some of them were far superior to much more flashy and arrogant models.
The key was economic. Euro countries that lacked their own post war domestic oil fields were ruled by people who regarded mass car ownership as a growing financial problem to be opposed not as an incentive to keep people on the job.
Americans had little idea of clever engineering. Big engines, cart springs and solid rear axles were the American dream and the 2CV, for example, was a hymn to brilliant engineering and also totally impractical in the American market.
@@jamesbosworth4191 It was quite solid and tough for Polish roads then but not reliable. As in all communist countries which was not mentioned here there was invariably a long waiting list - many years ! Unless 1. you had "connections" 2. worked at the factory or 3. had access to foreign hard currency. Otherwise years of waiting. I had Polish girlfriend in London who could not return home to family. I carted over about 2000 USD in cash and her father' got the FSO in weeks ! Well pleased with me, her and a change in their lives! Fiat also sold its older models to SEAT of Spain in the 1970's. Seat quality & control then was worse than Fiat's !
Very condensing to call these cars crappy just because they lacked the comforts of more up-market brands and models. In the mid-1970s I drove all the way from Berlin to New Deli in a "crappy" 1958 Citroen 2CV with "only" ten horse power and didn't once feel like I was driving a "crappy" car or that I was somehow poor because of it. In fact I don't think I'd have been any happier in anything less "crappy".
I had a 64 , Renault Dauphine bought it in 1972 and sold it in 1982 so this Is a bunch of crap the only thing wrong was a carberator I changed it and got a good 8 years out of it then before I sold it to a friend who still drive's it to this day Damn good car I would say no matter what your script says.
In the section where the trabant is discussed there are clips of the dutch made DAF33 which isn't in any way related to the trabant. The DAF has a Twocilinder 4stroke engine with a steel body. The unique feature of this car is the fully automatic transmission called the variomatic. It is a fully dutch design and build in the city of eindhoven in the netherlands
My mother , not being the best of drivers, bought a DAF 33. Ugly brut but that fantastic push .reverse simple variomatic gearbox was something else. It was a joy to drive even for me at 17 ! Happy day, happy memories in West London!
Yes, that was confusing but this is such a crappy site that 'poor design, shoddy construction, the need for maintenance and lack of finesse' are to be expected.
I would like to add, the black Ford Anglia had a ohv V8, had to stop and count the wires. A thing in USA, was putting a small block Chevy, in a 'crappy' Chevy Vega.
He done purposedly the word crap just to make sure at least one million viewers will give 1 Like each. But instead, these lovely little mobiles aren't crap , just this footage does is
If this video had been made by Europeans, it may have listed many of the poorly made American guzzling 2 ton tanks in its 10 worst of the era. To look at these cars today, and think little old ladies went to the grocery store in chrome laden, 20 foot finned tanks that were engineered with planned obsolescence is just so absurb to people outside the nation of 'The Wastemakers'.
I could only shake my head...never heard so much nonsense and lies. Firstly, the Skoda 1000 MB was n o t air - cooled. Who told you such rubbish ? The engine was the base for almost every Skoda up to the Favorit - and this Skoda was superb in winter conditions ! I remember a trip to Czecoslovakia, when even the service lorry was in the ditch - and a 40 year old 1000 MB, who has seen better days, just passed by as if nothing had happened... Trabants are n o t unreliable at all ! Did you ever own one ? People did long journeys in a Trabant from GDR to the Black Sea, 4 people and a trailer hitched to it...the outward appearence might be - mostly - the same ( if you do not know where to look at ) - but it has been constantly improved - certainly one of the best little cars ever ! Fiat : well, it was made under Zastava - licence for a lot longer - and fitted with a 770 cc engine ( basically the same as the first Fiat Pandas ) and was not half as uncomfy as you say ! Wartburg took the cake....it was not an " affordable " car; this was almost top of the range ( apart from USSR - imports ), very robust and more or less all of them were still on the road, when that ominous year 1990 came. If you a looking for cheap materials, look at GM - cars. Not at a Wartburg. Dauphines unreliable ? Utter cra.....! This " Billancourt " - engine is bullet - proof - and soldiered on in the Renault R 4 until 1986 ! For what reason ? Goggomobiles were available with : 200 cc, 250 cc, 300 cc and 400 cc. The reason, why most of them were bought with the 250 cc - engine is n o t the price !! In Germany, people could drive cars up to 250 cc on a motorcycle - licence - without " exam ". T h a t was the reason - and it was not made from " 1951 " onwards, but from 1954 to 1969. First series of late 1954 still had bolted wings - whilst from 1955 onwards, they were welded. Sorry to say : you have not got a clue what you are talking about !
I heard that "Trabant" is a code word for "Triumph of a totally failed economic/political system which never managed to solve any of the issues it purported to address." They weren't even good enough to punch a hole in the Berlin Wall, so you get to the West and get yourself a decent car.
I love Citroen 2CVs, maybe the cutest most stylish, whimsical yet practical cars ever designed. Fantastically fun little cars for the backroads of rural France as well as in tight Euro city streets. Its a car that creates a good mood anytime. I love Morris Minors also. Actually I like most all of these little cars.
31:07 does gogo look like gaga? WTF ? What the ding dongs that put this nonsense together don't understand is that these cars were built in areas where roads were small and narrow and gas prices were outta control. Everyone one of them, despite their short comings, served a purpose.
Crappy cars , what you drink ? Craps are those 1960's Pontiacs Mercurys Chryslers Chevys Fords Imperials Buicks of 18" feet long nobody nowadays have any shadow of them, mainly because if owning one of 'em you get highest costs for annual garage protection , highest the parking's budget than the value of the vehicle itself . Citroen 2cv or Fiat 600 , just to mention two , were produced by millions and appreciated in all five continents , even in the roughest areas
As someone in the UK who owned a 57 DeSoto , back in 1967, I can confirm that they were just as bad especially in the UK climate. We used to get a lot of US cars back then as there were a lot of US bases still here. Bearing in mind it was only 10 yrs old the boot(trunk) floor had completely rotted away. Front suspension bushes were really well worn and every suspension/steering joint had to be lubed regularly every 5 thousand miles or so as did UK cars of the time. Only thing was the US cars tended to be heavier but heavier also meant a large engine. I remember the insurance cost me more than the car. Yes rust was the enemy for ALL old cars as they left the factory with NO underbody protection or even basic underseal so in a wet climate 10 yrs was about it.
My 1st car was a Fiat 600 and it was great. My friend 1st car was aCitroen 2CV and it was a super car both easy to maintain and drive. I reckon you know truly nothing about how successful these vehicles were.
@@tivvy-xf4kzinfact De Soto were primarily tough pickups from the Dodge and Fargo divisions . But you even told another true: 99% of all USA cars of that period were merely pickup's framed vehicles which bodworks were adapted to the fashion's shapes .
@@tivvy-xf4kzinfact DeSoto were primarily tough pickups altogether Fargo heavy utes from the Chrysler company . Yet you told another true: 99% of USA's cars from that period were merely pickup's framed adaptations to fashion's automobile coachworks , sharing same engines , wheelbases , suspensions and transmissions from the little trucks that gave them origin
My first car was 1958 Austin A35 and I loved it and still miss it. In the 5 years I owned it broke clutch push rod and had no door stoppers. The turn signal were flippers supplemented with bulls eye amber lenses front and rear and when they were on functioned together😊
The 12 Volt ignition system of the Morris minor, the Hillman minx and the Mini was far better for starting at cold and wet mornings than many German and French 6 Volt cars. In the Netherlands this made British manufactured cars popular.
Showing a 2CV prototype from before WWII and call it a ‘crappy car’….! May I remind you that in the 90’s your American Chrysler company imported a 2CV from Europe to find out how the heck they managed to make functional, reliable 4 passenger car with a weight less than 600kg….. that was over 40 years after the French started producing this car…. Over 2 million were produced and many are still going…. Many owners love their 2CV and the value goes up every year…. If it is your intention to p**s me of and wind me up, you are doing a good job!! Subscription, thumb or even watching this vid??? Forget it!!!
So, RICH people couldn't afford these vehicles? Title makes NO sense!! As for the "Dauphine", I do not agree that this car was "crappy" when compared to it's European rivals from the '50s to '60s. I purchased a USED 1964 Dauphine in 1968 with 43000 miles on the odo for $400. It was going to be my "Winter beater". The car NEVER left me stranded, started at -25degrees F even when left sitting outside for 2 weeks! The only problem I had was a leaky carburetor which left a dry "float bowl" when sitting overnight. Was very easy to prime the carb with the lever on the side of carb. I agree the car WAS slow. Even though the car weighed 1400lbs, 30HP did NOT make it a "dragster", BUT it wasn't any slower than it's nearest competitor, the VW Type1. And it was IMHO the BEST looking European "economy car" of that era!!
I had a 1960 I bought for $300 in 1964. It DID rust above the headlights and the rocker panels. A company made weld on replacement rocker panels which I got. That car was the most fun and so economical-30 mpg. I sadly traded for a new Volkswagen beetle, believing the sales pitch that Volkswagen would NEVER switch from the 6 volt system. It was the harshest riding vehicle I ever owned. It had more power than the Renault but that was offset by the need for valve adjustments nearly every oil change.
Any Car Built before the Junk and Shit we have today is Good. I love Rattle's and squeaks at least they were moving down the road and not in the dealership shop on the repair list! 😆👉🚗👈👍
I don't like the styling of the Morris Minor but that's the first time I've heard it described as 'boxy'! It's the complete opposite of boxy, there is hardly a straight line anywhere on the bodywork.
I had a Citroen 2CV years ago, and I loved it. Fuel economy was excellent and the ride quality was wonderful. They did roll round corners, but I just took them a bit slower so the car remained stable. There are manufacturers that are reproducing 2CV's from refurbished and new parts, both in the later conventional 602cc two cylinder petrol engine, and an Electric version. I am still considering getting one again, but they are a lot more expensive than the original mass produced Citroen ones.
I have what was documented in the mid 70s as the oldest Citroen 2cv in the USA, it's a 1952 and is completely 100% original, bumper to bumper, and is driveable, it may be the oldest all original, driveable 2cv on the planet
When they were eventually sold in UK in the 1970's I bough one with the square headlights (not top my liking). I loved it but, contrary to you, found the consumption below average
@@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys In the UK all old cars barely lasted 10 yrs rust being the number one issue. Most cars these days are fine as they have underbody plastic panels. Northern Europe is wet and salt is used on the roads in winter. Southern Europe eg Italy is usually fine and rust is not a problem and even today UK buyers still import fiats of the era from Italy as generally in comparison the rust issue is minimal. I'm sure even in the US there are more rust free classics than in the North?
Appalling, self contradicting rubbish. If you don't understand Yurp stick to Yank V8 4 ton dinosaurs. The guest appearance of A Daf 33 amongst the Trabbies was an unintended bonus.
I loved my 1956 series 1 MInx. I managed to wreck the 1400cc engine and fitted a 1600 lump to which i added the twin carbs and exhaust from a Singer Gazelle. It was still no sports car, but could easily out accelerate an Austin Cambridge. Great fun, but only 25 mpg.
I learned to drive in a Morris Minor 1000, in fact so did my father, and we took our tests on the same day, with the same examiner. We both passed. Dad bought the car four years old and it broke down eleven years later, on the way home from his funeral.
I guess this is a channel made by poor people not affording functional research... but in spite of it's many flaws they seem to be very satisfied by their results. Not that it cannot be repaired but the daily day to day costs seems to be a pragmatic point of view one of the charms being the low cost of running. It's going to be interesting to see how this channel is going to survive in the future - will it be out of step with the demands of the viewers?
My mother had a Morris Minor and an Anglia. Both where great vehicles for their time. Only poor people could afford? Very probable, but reliable and popular .. Mum - and Dad - just wanted a car that 'did its job'. Excitement - No.
The backwards sloping rear window on the Anglia was a stroke of genius. You could actually see out of it when it was raining. No other car had this AFAIK.
I think this is an American video. ( The voice is American, at least ) Millions and millions of Europeans used these "crappy cars" on daily basis and for long years. Some models were decennia long made and sold, like the innovatif 2cv and sturdy Volkswagen beetle. While America made its uneconomic, ridicoulously overpowered and polluting "Straszenkreuzer" , that lasted only a few years because there was a newer type available, that hopefully would be better. The producers of this video obviously did not make a study of these "crappy European cars".
Your using a pre-war design which, admittedly carried on after that time - as did the popular and prefect; related ones which were similar in concept. But to quote these as going into the sixties is utterly wrong! The 100E Fords replaced them in the fifties - a completely different shape - and later on, in the 1960s, the 105 E which had the raked back rear window.
Hard to believe that Citroen produced cars at both ends of the automotive spectrum which were legendary: the absolutely Spartan 2CV and the fire breathing SM.
Another cheaply made terrible rust bucket was the Vauxhall Victor 4 from GM. This was in contrast to its upscale older design big brother, the Cresta 6 which was a well built, if stodgy looking machine, that could get on a good road and quietly move along at 80mph all day, if that was the plan.
In the early 70's the 2CV was used by the GERMAN POLICE and I always remember our local police chief driving into our military base in the Eiffel mountains to pick up his bottle of Gin about once a month. Willy loved his 2CV.
You rave on about the Morris Minor not being able to reach "Highway speeds" when Britain didn't have any. We had no reason to need for V8s or fancy big wings on our gigantic cars. You didn't get bombed every week. I'd like to see you drive a car any car on the roads in Britain back then at over 100 k. Funny though, people kept on buying the old girl until the mini came out.
Back in those days, my dad had a humble VW Beetle, an uncle in the family had one of these Morris Minor, and dad kept of slowing down to allow the Morris to catch up, that was mid 50's...
The shaky camerawork spoils this video. I grew up at the time these cars were around. It was a different age, how can you judge them against modern cars?
The Skoda 1000 MB was my very first car. And I remember driving to the car servive station every other week with some little »problem«. One time the door locks ceases to work and I could not lock the car, another time a side window fell open after hopping over a minor jump, and so on...
You need to research better as most of them are collectible classic cars. Their engine power was considered normal for the time when they were built. Also they are "peoples cars" which every honest worker could afford. The 2cv is the cutest car ever built.
I used to have a Mini Moke which had less extras than any of these vehicles, not even doors or windows but it was a ripper and one that a huge amount of people still want today. I would love to have another.
It was very trendy to have a Moke in the South of France. Brigitte Bardot has one in San Tropez? For Citroen Mehari fans there is a specialist garage in Casis which refurbishges them like new?
With over 90,000km on a Trabant in recent years, I feel qualified to offer a contrary view: Trabant brakes work well if kept in good repair. Trabants actually ride, handle and stop ok-ish by modern standards and are outstanding by the standards of early '60s. The engine has little power by modern standards and can smoke if too much oil is used. It can, however, keep up with traffic well up to about 80km/h, is designed for 100km/h top speed but is capable of 120km/h in good repair.
the 2CV is the cutest car ever made. war-devastated Europe needed simple cheap economic vehicles to take her through the post war years. none of them was crappy.
A friend had a 2CV and people were amazed when he drove it wearing only jesns and a t shirt. He had a Webasto heater. They were also amazed that it could do 120 km/h It had an Ami 6 engine.
I wish that someone will make a video about the crappy US vehicles of that time. You are so arrogant critising European inventions while your car industry still uses pre war technique. And when there weren't the European inventors the US population still would be driving around in Model Ts
Someone has. The video is under 3 minutes, but manages to say just about everything that needs to be said. Title- Why 1970s american cars are awful | Jeremy clarkson's motorworld | Top gear
I had a 59 Dualphin (given to me) and it was not as bad as you put out, now everything you said was true. However with a solid background in tuning motorcycle you could get it up to 70. The seating was all right for 4 adults given that they would accept a seating position very similar to that of a kitchen table chair. It could be driven to school and to the store which is a real slice of the market.
I'm sorry that I need to correct yout at one place. While you showed the Trabant 601, two stroke by Eastern Germany you made two significant mistakes. 1. Between the Trabant cars at time stamp 11:35 the gey car wasn't a Trabant. THAT was a car to talk about also because of some special details about it. That was a DAF 33 a dutch car produced in the netherlands. DAF exists until today with Trucks in Europe wich has very good reputation. The cars of DAF had a very unique gearbox, the so called "variomatic" wich works like what is used in scooters. The dutch DAF cars have been the only cars in the world with just one drive position forward and backwards wich means the cars where able to drive backwards and forward with maximum speed. There where different models from Daf 33 Daf 44, Daf 55 and Daf 66 wich was the last and strongest before Daf car section where sold to the swedisch Volvo. The Daf 66 has been buildet under the name Volvo 66 for a while after the car section of Daf cars died. The most remarkable to tell about it, that this car was the only car streetlegal build like that which could go 160 km/h in one gear BACKWARDS.
The second mistake is, after the fall of the german wall thousands of Trabants where lefr abandoned to rust in fields to rust. No sir, what did you tell tell your audience of what the body of the Trabant was made? DUROPLAST? AND what did you tell what that stuff is? Right. PLASTIC Since when plastic can rust? Never
The Ford Prefect was launched in 1938, what's it doing in this video at all? The Ford Anglia had the option of the new Ford Kent engine which continued in many European Ford cars until the 1980s. This was a modern car built to drive on the new motorways, it was replaced by the Ford Escort which while being slighty larger evolved directly from it. This car may have been small but it was in no way crappy! The aurthor of this video simply doesn't like small pre motorway cars that driving on narrow twisting roads didn't need to go fast!
LOVE to find a Wartburg in good condition. I would get rid of the engine (save it as a museum exhibit) and ELECTRIFY my car as an eV! No noise, no engine problems, no overheating, and most of all NO pollution! I would aesthetically retain the seating but make more comfortable.
What is overlooked here is the when these cars were built the speed limits were 30 to 40 mph so performance was not a consideration. There were no motorways just 2 Lane roads .🇬🇧
Morris Minor "crappy"?!?!?! I'd rather have one of them than a crappy Ford Edsel any day. ... And WTF is a "Hillman Minks"? It's called a Minx. That one error shows just how little research you did for this.
I have never encountered such a completely out of touch video like this before. If this guy is so enamored with horse power, size and comfort features, then this is probably the wrong venue for him. To trash talk some of the best selling cars ever, that were made to service a need and another time. Is completely ridiculous. Most of these were legendary vehicles, that this guy clearly doesn't understand. I would like to say that I finished the video, but I can't. It was just too CRAPPY.
I have owned one of these cars 40 years ago and thought at the time it a bit under powered but it was still better than walking. Tell me what car today can transport a piano or a double bed?. It was a brilliant design. My many memories has cone back to me of the enjoyment of owing one. In resent times I was crossing the Australian Nullarbor, thousand km of straight road with nothing in between and I come across the Citroen CV club crossing without break down for a forty year old plus car being so reliable, it says a lot about modern cars.
The Ford Prefect in the video is a 1940s version, which had been superceded by an updated version by 1951. The Citroen 2CV, Fiat 600 and the Morris Minor were simple, cheap, reliable cars aimed at specific markets and could nvere be described as crappy. The video talks about 1931 Hillmand Minx, but shows later 1950s model. The final version of the Minx was a much smaller, rear-engined car, nothing like the versions shown in the video. The Austin A35 had been replaced by the Austin 7 variant of a Morris 1100 in the early 1960s. The Ford Anglia of 1948 was similar to the Ford Prefet shown in your video and had been replaced by a modern version by 1950. The reverse slope rear window suceeded in reducing glare for drivers - my first cat, simple, cheap, reliable enough and easy for owners to carry out DIY reepairs. I had also owned a Wartburg in the 1970s - the Knight, which was an excellent car, good performance, reliable, easy to drive and repair. Overall, to use your own words - a video with a crappy perspective and disdain for cheaper cars.
Hmmm let's see, take a bunch of iconic and well-loved European classics and use an American narrator to call them "crappy". Could this possibly be an attempt at disinformation from a malignant actor, seeking to promote division and social disharmony??
Typical American view. How cars that were produced for more than a decade and sold in millions be crappy and bad? Renault Dauphine 11 Years and over two millions, Ford Prefect 23 Years, Trabant 34 Years, over 3 million units, Citroën 2CV 42 Years, nearly 4 millions, Morris Minor 23 Years, 1.5 million, and so on. Many of them are iconic cars, and many of them, also, are on the roads even today and reaches high prices when sold. USA are not the whole world, you know. Many of the problems with European cars in America were due to American mechanics not knowing how to maintain and repair them. Finally, what to say about the title of this video: "... Only Poor People Could Afford"?! What, rich ones could not afford them? All in all, dear "Classic Cars", this is a very poorly done job.
We had licented FIAT 600 that we called Zastava 600, mostly it's know as Zastava 750 and 850 which diffrence was just a stronger engine. The people realy liked, first car of my grandpa before he swichet to 1989 Zastava 102 Yugo Koral 45 (same engine but Yugo's tuned max up) to end up on 1989 Volkswagen Golf MK2 1.6 Diesel...
@@andrewwmacfadyen6958 The side valve in the Morris Minor was not a stop gap it was the original engine designed for it in 1948, the only reason it was changed is because the merger with Austin in 1951 to form B.M.C & the Minor was fitted with the Austin A30 of 1951's 'A' Series engine in 1952
Is there a way to block TH-cam channels that only spout out nonsensical videos like this? I don't want them to pop up in my feed. Every time I accidentally click on them, I help them in the algorithms, and I don't want to help them get any traction. (Yes, I know, this comment also helps the video in the algoritms, but I'm hoping someone can help me solve the problem.)
Maybe everybody downvoting it will help make it "slip down" the stupid algorithm. Personally I always FLAG nonsensical videos like these and hope others do the same. If enough users do it then they have to take it down. In this case I would use the "false and misleading" option as why I consider this should be flagged. As for blocking crap videos like this from popping up at all, I lament is as much as you do and I wish I could stay oblivious to their very existence.
I am 81, so I remember well the car scene in the UK in the 1950’s. After WW2, Europe was broke. Believe it or not, US viewers, mass car ownership didn’t come to the UK until the late 1960’s. Whilst in the US, you had power steering, V8 engines, auto transmission and air con, the cars you deride were what we had!!. Petrol was very expensive, cars attracted high taxation and there was no such thing as leasing, bank loans etc etc. Furthermore, there were still many many pre war cars on British roads even as late as 1958/9. I suggest you do a bit more research before engaging gear. Roy W UK
You should have titled this "13 perfectly sensible cars that were totally acceptable in the markets they were designed for but would have been derided in the USA because they weren't 18 feet long and didn't have huge, gas guzzling V8 engines."
Please, Non-dependable Build quality. and reliability. Iffy handling in the wet. Rust problems. A Colin Chapmen feature? to add lightness? Shame I might not be able to ever see the beautiful body of the Dauphine. Because of durability. Simple fix have two engines, one in front, one in back? Then brakes and suspension to handle double the power.
When people have a good income, they want more than just the bare necessities.
@@Scorched-ww2nf - To base your opinion on this youtube video is very disappointing and naive. Lean the history of these cars, the people that bought them and the freedom it gave them. Then you might understand why they were so popular and truly loved. There were no highways in Europe back then, petrol was expensive and no cars had rust protection. They were available, cheap, reliable, efficient and economical transportation. That's all people wanted and could afford in post-war bankrupt Europe. Please learn your history my friend. It rains a lot in Europe.
@@tubacker As I said, It's a shame. I really would like to see this cars in person. But build quality is important. I am aware post war Europe was not the richest nations. War tends to do that. So I am aware that all material on TH-cam should be questioned. But so should your assumption that I believed the video. But so should the assumption that all Americans are the same. I find if someone is using generalizations, it's because they lack facts or logic IMO. The Author of the video also seems to fall into this.
@@Scorched-ww2nf My friend, you can still see these cars but you will have to search for them. Build quality was good enough and 8-10 years for a car of this era was a long time. Later cars of the 70's and 80's - Alfasud, Lancia, Leyland and Ford - to name a few, were worse and rust took all of them. Car's needed regular greasing and care to keep them on the roads and all cars broke down back them. You quoted directly from the video; handling? On cars that go 40mph with skinny cross-ply tyres, this wasn't really an issue, bumpy roads and potholes was. This was the dawn of mass motoring in Europe, so we cannot compare to modern standards. Cars were simple, light and had small engines but they were good enough for the time. I never mentioned Americans but I've had some of your cars. They they don't handle, they steering is too light and they roll around like jelly. Trim also cracks and bits still fall off. Climate played its part - a 2001 Mercedes I had (2yrs old) didn't like the heat in Dubai and regularly broke. However, the 1990 BMW I had in the UK was still perfect after 20 years. Sending wimpy little austerity cars across to compete with Yank tanks probably wasn't a great idea (although the VW beetle was popular) but they were cheap, efficient and economical. I see Japanese and Korean cars have already taken hold over there and next will be the Chinese. The ignorant producer of the video could really have a ball with the crappy Chinese, Korean, Russian and Polish cars of 25 years ago, if he's brave enough. They all copied the European ones he vilified so much. Cheers.
This is the crappiest video I have seen about classic cars from the past. This was a post war era when cars were for transportation not snobbish status symbols.
I agree, see how smart french and Italien cars were designed just for the purpose to move people . US was only producing cars with primitive suspensions and engines wasting the fuel and the space in the cities. And a Simca 1000 Rallye or Fiat 600 Abarth was faster on curvy roads then any American car.
@@chris_austria Thank you. Americans are just ignorants about european standards
Not to mention this video would, and should have been a quarter of the length, if whoever wrote this didn't keep repeating the same points over and over again.
Totally agree!
@@feeldibenamericans are just ignorant.
The Citroën 2CV had one of the longest production runs in automotive history.
And that is it's biggest problem
Yes, I know some who has restored a couple of them, and they are a Marvel of simplicity and durability~!!!!!
@@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys The engineering involved in its design is simply incredible. Built with a specific purpose in mind.
Yeah, it’s production. Should’ve ended 1955. It’s kind of sad Citroen was perfectly able to build real cars like the ID and DS our something really exquisite like the like the SM withMaserati engine. That’s real car.
Next to the Paykan, it was the most numerous model found in Iran in the late 1970s
Calling the 2CV a crappy car says a lot about the degree of seriousness put in crafting this video !
This is just AI garbage, Dohhfeen. Come on. Robot speak.
>>>>Ditto
Our family owned 4 Citroen 2CV over the years. By the 70s/ 80s the car muscled up to nearly 30hp. Still didn't make it a rocket but it got us everywhere we needed to go. In winter, on snowy roads the car performed exceptionally well, taking hills where orher cars got stuck. But it was cold inside. Loved the car.
There was a custom amongst 2CV drivers to greet each other on the road by flashing the headlights. Iconic and easy to recognize.
Let’s be real.The 2CV was and is and is a piece of shit. Even in the 50s it was slow andcumbersome. it never matured to being a real car. it is like a wardrobe from IKEA filled with the joke of an engine.
Exactly the comment I would have made.
Glad to see it at the top of the "Top Comments" sort.
Putting this channel on my "Do Not Recommend" list.
OK so let me see if I got this right.....the 2CV had 5 million units produced, covered rough roads and paddocks easily, was simple to work on, was inexpensive to run, was comfortable to travel in etc etc etc and yet it was a "crappy car". Whoever wrote this is an idiot, I owned a 2CV Dyane 6 for the year I lived in the UK, put 12.5 THOUSAND miles on it around Britain and Europe. The European trip was for 6 weeks with 3 adults and camping gear and it would sit on 60 mph all day on gently undulating roads and STILL get about 55 to 60 miles per gallon, it took us everywhere e wanted to go in comfort with a heater so good we could dry clothes inside it in winter even though it had a vinyl roll back roof. If I could've brought it back to Australia with me I would've, it was the best car I EVER owned.
Spot on. In some ways it resembled the Ford model T in that could drive anywhere and be used in a variety of roles. After all, a failure doesn't get produced in five million.
you still see occasional 2CV's running around the Lot et Garonne department of SW France and other rural areas? Its spin off was the fibre glass Mehari for the San Trop jet set.
I travelled round Europe in a Citroen Bijou. (plastic 2CV) when in Bulgaria at night I rounded a bend and found the road blocked by an unlit truck. I swung it right , over the ditch, bounced over the field and I am still here. No damage at all. Brilliant.
Calling Fiat 600, Citroen 2CV, Renault Dauphine, Simca 1000, Ford Anglia crappy cars is complewtely ridiculous. This is totally untrue as these vehicles were all excellent simple cars for the masses and some of them were far superior to much more flashy and arrogant models.
The key was economic. Euro countries that lacked their own post war domestic oil fields were ruled by people who regarded mass car ownership as a growing financial problem to be opposed not as an incentive to keep people on the job.
Americans had little idea of clever engineering. Big engines, cart springs and solid rear axles were the American dream and the 2CV, for example, was a hymn to brilliant engineering and also totally impractical in the American market.
Don't try to explain that to those super americans who created the world
Thr understannds about cars... maybe. But nothing about life
Right Again~!!!!
I suggest more research before doing another vid.
You stole my line. Whoever made it doesn't know what he is talking about... obviously!
Agree
Exactly 👍
Much more research. These cars motorized countries where they were made.
The cars would be best described as utilitarian and quickly dated styles.
when you mute the audio , it's a delightful video of desirable classics
What an excellent idea and I went back after I settled down and watched it your way and it was a fine video~!!!!
Right!
Oh, I should have done this!
Great. Thats how to view it!
Only poor people could afford? That doesn't make any sense, as anything a poor man can afford can be afforded by EVERYBODY.
No mention of the Polish FSO which I believe was based on an older Fiat
@@gordonspicer Is it just as unreliable as a Fiat?
@@jamesbosworth4191 It was quite solid and tough for Polish roads then but not reliable. As in all communist countries which was not mentioned here there was invariably a long waiting list - many years ! Unless 1. you had "connections" 2. worked at the factory or 3. had access to foreign hard currency. Otherwise years of waiting.
I had Polish girlfriend in London who could not return home to family. I carted over about 2000 USD in cash and her father' got the FSO in weeks ! Well pleased with me, her and a change in their lives!
Fiat also sold its older models to SEAT of Spain in the 1970's. Seat quality & control then was worse than Fiat's !
@@jamesbosworth4191 That's too hard to replicate 😉
@@ruben_balea Ha Ha Ha, that's a good one!
American Idiot is such a great song. Maybe you should listen to it and learn.
This person has not a clue about European cars of this era let him stick to the gas guzzling American autos of that time
I don't think he has any clue about any kind of car.
Very condensing to call these cars crappy just because they lacked the comforts of more up-market brands and models. In the mid-1970s I drove all the way from Berlin to New Deli in a "crappy" 1958 Citroen 2CV with "only" ten horse power and didn't once feel like I was driving a "crappy" car or that I was somehow poor because of it. In fact I don't think I'd have been any happier in anything less "crappy".
Good, interesting comment!
what a fantastic experience that must have been ! I envy you !
YES~!!!!
the Citroën 2cv is litterally one of the most iconic european car ever build and was produced until late 90s
Many trips through all of Europe with the 2CV4, over the Alps, Pyrenees, in snow and sun!
Everybody starts off small and gets bigger or better as they earn more money. No sixteen year old goes out and buys an E-type Jag.
I had a 64 , Renault Dauphine bought it in 1972 and sold it in 1982 so this Is a bunch of crap the only thing wrong was a carberator I changed it and got a good 8 years out of it then before I sold it to a friend who still drive's it to this day Damn good car I would say no matter what your script says.
It is pronounced "Do-fin ay" not "do-feeeeen"
In the section where the trabant is discussed there are clips of the dutch made DAF33 which isn't in any way related to the trabant. The DAF has a Twocilinder 4stroke engine with a steel body. The unique feature of this car is the fully automatic transmission called the variomatic. It is a fully dutch design and build in the city of eindhoven in the netherlands
My mother , not being the best of drivers, bought a DAF 33. Ugly brut but that fantastic push .reverse simple variomatic gearbox was something else. It was a joy to drive even for me at 17 ! Happy day, happy memories in West London!
Yes, that was confusing but this is such a crappy site that 'poor design, shoddy construction, the need for maintenance and lack of finesse' are to be expected.
I would like to add, the black Ford Anglia had a ohv V8, had to stop and count the wires. A thing in USA, was putting a small block Chevy, in a 'crappy' Chevy Vega.
You have done great injustice by labeling such epics and legends as 'crappy'!
He done purposedly the word crap just to make sure at least one million viewers will give 1 Like each. But instead, these lovely little mobiles aren't crap , just this footage does is
If this video had been made by Europeans, it may have listed many of the poorly made American guzzling 2 ton tanks in its 10 worst of the era. To look at these cars today, and think little old ladies went to the grocery store in chrome laden, 20 foot finned tanks that were engineered with planned obsolescence is just so absurb to people outside the nation of 'The Wastemakers'.
I could only shake my head...never heard so much nonsense and lies. Firstly, the Skoda 1000 MB was n o t air - cooled. Who told you such rubbish ? The engine was the base for almost every Skoda up to the Favorit - and this Skoda was superb in winter conditions ! I remember a trip to Czecoslovakia, when even the service lorry was in the ditch - and a 40 year old 1000 MB, who has seen better days, just passed by as if nothing had happened...
Trabants are n o t unreliable at all ! Did you ever own one ? People did long journeys in a Trabant from GDR to the Black Sea, 4 people and a trailer hitched to it...the outward appearence might be - mostly - the same ( if you do not know where to look at ) - but it has been constantly improved - certainly one of the best little cars ever !
Fiat : well, it was made under Zastava - licence for a lot longer - and fitted with a 770 cc engine ( basically the same as the first Fiat Pandas ) and was not half as uncomfy as you say !
Wartburg took the cake....it was not an " affordable " car; this was almost top of the range ( apart from USSR - imports ), very robust and more or less all of them were still on the road, when that ominous year 1990 came.
If you a looking for cheap materials, look at GM - cars. Not at a Wartburg.
Dauphines unreliable ? Utter cra.....!
This " Billancourt " - engine is bullet - proof - and soldiered on in the Renault R 4 until 1986 !
For what reason ?
Goggomobiles were available with : 200 cc, 250 cc, 300 cc and 400 cc. The reason, why most of them were bought with the 250 cc - engine is n o t the price !!
In Germany, people could drive cars up to 250 cc on a motorcycle - licence - without " exam ".
T h a t was the reason - and it was not made from " 1951 " onwards, but from 1954 to 1969.
First series of late 1954 still had bolted wings - whilst from 1955 onwards, they were welded.
Sorry to say : you have not got a clue what you are talking about !
I heard that "Trabant" is a code word for "Triumph of a totally failed economic/political system which never managed to solve any of the issues it purported to address." They weren't even good enough to punch a hole in the Berlin Wall, so you get to the West and get yourself a decent car.
I love Citroen 2CVs, maybe the cutest most stylish, whimsical yet practical cars ever designed. Fantastically fun little cars for the backroads of rural France as well as in tight Euro city streets. Its a car that creates a good mood anytime. I love Morris Minors also. Actually I like most all of these little cars.
31:07 does gogo look like gaga? WTF ? What the ding dongs that put this nonsense together don't understand is that these cars were built in areas where roads were small and narrow and gas prices were outta control. Everyone one of them, despite their short comings, served a purpose.
The Citroën was easy to fix reliable it was produced in Argentina for many years.
Why is the essentially the same sentence repeated over, and over, and over ad nauseum? This video could be 8 minutes.
It sounds like an AI script.
Crappy cars , what you drink ? Craps are those 1960's Pontiacs Mercurys Chryslers Chevys Fords Imperials Buicks of 18" feet long nobody nowadays have any shadow of them, mainly because if owning one of 'em you get highest costs for annual garage protection , highest the parking's budget than the value of the vehicle itself .
Citroen 2cv or Fiat 600 , just to mention two , were produced by millions and appreciated in all five continents , even in the roughest areas
YES YES YES
As someone in the UK who owned a 57 DeSoto , back in 1967, I can confirm that they were just as bad especially in the UK climate.
We used to get a lot of US cars back then as there were a lot of US bases still here.
Bearing in mind it was only 10 yrs old the boot(trunk) floor had completely rotted away. Front suspension bushes were really well worn and every suspension/steering joint had to be lubed regularly every 5 thousand miles or so as did UK cars of the time.
Only thing was the US cars tended to be heavier but heavier also meant a large engine.
I remember the insurance cost me more than the car.
Yes rust was the enemy for ALL old cars as they left the factory with NO underbody protection or even basic underseal so in a wet climate 10 yrs was about it.
My 1st car was a Fiat 600 and it was great. My friend 1st car was aCitroen 2CV and it was a super car both easy to maintain and drive. I reckon you know truly nothing about how successful these vehicles were.
@@tivvy-xf4kzinfact De Soto were primarily tough pickups from the Dodge and Fargo divisions . But you even told another true:
99% of all USA cars of that period were merely pickup's framed vehicles which bodworks were adapted to the fashion's shapes .
@@tivvy-xf4kzinfact DeSoto were primarily tough pickups altogether Fargo heavy utes from the Chrysler company . Yet you told another true: 99% of USA's cars from that period were merely pickup's framed adaptations to fashion's automobile coachworks , sharing same engines , wheelbases , suspensions and transmissions from the little trucks that gave them origin
Only poor people could afford these cars. There was no way that rich people could afford these cars.
🤣😂😂 Your comment is gold comedy. Respect, Sir!
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My first car was 1958 Austin A35 and I loved it and still miss it. In the 5 years I owned it broke clutch push rod and had no door stoppers. The turn signal were flippers supplemented with bulls eye amber lenses front and rear and when they were on functioned together😊
my dad had one ,ran it for eight years ,bought it for eighty quid totally reliable winter summer loved it .......
The 12 Volt ignition system of the Morris minor, the Hillman minx and the Mini was far better for starting at cold and wet mornings than many German and French 6 Volt cars. In the Netherlands this made British manufactured cars popular.
The usual AI generated and narrated argle-bargle. At least the final car ,"the skoda 1000 megabyte", is a hilarious AI blooper.
I noticed it to!
Showing a 2CV prototype from before WWII and call it a ‘crappy car’….!
May I remind you that in the 90’s your American Chrysler company imported a 2CV from Europe to find out how the heck they managed to make functional, reliable 4 passenger car with a weight less than 600kg….. that was over 40 years after the French started producing this car….
Over 2 million were produced and many are still going….
Many owners love their 2CV and the value goes up every year….
If it is your intention to p**s me of and wind me up, you are doing a good job!!
Subscription, thumb or even watching this vid??? Forget it!!!
I'm right there with you Brother~!!!!!
The only thing crappy in these shows is the commentator and and the script😂😂😂
A car called 'Megabytes'.
Yeah!! 😂@@paulinegeorge289
So, RICH people couldn't afford these vehicles? Title makes NO sense!! As for the "Dauphine", I do not agree that this car was "crappy" when compared to it's European rivals from the '50s to '60s. I purchased a USED 1964 Dauphine in 1968 with 43000 miles on the odo for $400. It was going to be my "Winter beater". The car NEVER left me stranded, started at -25degrees F even when left sitting outside for 2 weeks! The only problem I had was a leaky carburetor which left a dry "float bowl" when sitting overnight. Was very easy to prime the carb with the lever on the side of carb. I agree the car WAS slow. Even though the car weighed 1400lbs, 30HP did NOT make it a "dragster", BUT it wasn't any slower than it's nearest competitor, the VW Type1. And it was IMHO the BEST looking European "economy car" of that era!!
I had a 1960 I bought for $300 in 1964. It DID rust above the headlights and the rocker panels. A company made weld on replacement rocker panels which I got. That car was the most fun and so economical-30 mpg. I sadly traded for a new Volkswagen beetle, believing the sales pitch that Volkswagen would NEVER switch from the 6 volt system. It was the harshest riding vehicle I ever owned. It had more power than the Renault but that was offset by the need for valve adjustments nearly every oil change.
Thats what closed down half the railways the working class were purchasing cars rather than using public transport
Any Car Built before the Junk and Shit we have today is Good. I love Rattle's and squeaks at least they were moving down the road and not in the dealership shop on the repair list! 😆👉🚗👈👍
Damn you said a mouth full there and Thanks~!!
I don't like the styling of the Morris Minor but that's the first time I've heard it described as 'boxy'! It's the complete opposite of boxy, there is hardly a straight line anywhere on the bodywork.
The car of thumbnail is a 1939 Citroën 2CV prototype, called "TPV" (Très Petite Voiture)
I had a Citroen 2CV years ago, and I loved it. Fuel economy was excellent and the ride quality was wonderful. They did roll round corners, but I just took them a bit slower so the car remained stable. There are manufacturers that are reproducing 2CV's from refurbished and new parts, both in the later conventional 602cc two cylinder petrol engine, and an Electric version. I am still considering getting one again, but they are a lot more expensive than the original mass produced Citroen ones.
I have what was documented in the mid 70s as the oldest Citroen 2cv in the USA, it's a 1952 and is completely 100% original, bumper to bumper, and is driveable, it may be the oldest all original, driveable 2cv on the planet
Yes - a lot of careful research went into that car. A very clever design
When they were eventually sold in UK in the 1970's I bough one with the square headlights (not top my liking). I loved it but, contrary to you, found the consumption below average
A DAF and a Trabant are two very different cars…….
Dauphines weren't unreliable but they did rust
Total lack of a real knowledge or research
I drove one all through High School in Arizona and never had a speck of rust~!!!!
@@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys In the UK all old cars barely lasted 10 yrs rust being the number one issue. Most cars these days are fine as they have underbody plastic panels.
Northern Europe is wet and salt is used on the roads in winter.
Southern Europe eg Italy is usually fine and rust is not a problem and even today UK buyers still import fiats of the era from Italy as generally in comparison the rust issue is minimal.
I'm sure even in the US there are more rust free classics than in the North?
Appalling, self contradicting rubbish. If you don't understand Yurp stick to Yank V8 4 ton dinosaurs. The guest appearance of A Daf 33 amongst the Trabbies was an unintended bonus.
I loved my 1956 series 1 MInx. I managed to wreck the 1400cc engine and fitted a 1600 lump to which i added the twin carbs and exhaust from a Singer Gazelle. It was still no sports car, but could easily out accelerate an Austin Cambridge. Great fun, but only 25 mpg.
I learned to drive in a Morris Minor 1000, in fact so did my father, and we took our tests on the same day, with the same examiner. We both passed. Dad bought the car four years old and it broke down eleven years later, on the way home from his funeral.
What?? The Goggomobile had no crumple zone? The entire car was a crumple zone.
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Maker has zero knowledge cars
I guess this is a channel made by poor people not affording functional research... but in spite of it's many flaws they seem to be very satisfied by their results. Not that it cannot be repaired but the daily day to day costs seems to be a pragmatic point of view one of the charms being the low cost of running. It's going to be interesting to see how this channel is going to survive in the future - will it be out of step with the demands of the viewers?
My mother had a Morris Minor and an Anglia. Both where great vehicles for their time. Only poor people could afford? Very probable, but reliable and popular .. Mum - and Dad - just wanted a car that 'did its job'. Excitement - No.
The backwards sloping rear window on the Anglia was a stroke of genius. You could actually see out of it when it was raining. No other car had this AFAIK.
I think this is an American video. ( The voice is American, at least ) Millions and millions of Europeans used these "crappy cars" on daily basis and for long years. Some models were decennia long made and sold, like the innovatif 2cv and sturdy Volkswagen beetle. While America made its uneconomic, ridicoulously overpowered and polluting "Straszenkreuzer" , that lasted only a few years because there was a newer type available, that hopefully would be better. The producers of this video obviously did not make a study of these "crappy European cars".
No matter what one feels about these cars, all of these have created wonderful memories for their owners, families and friends.
The skoda mb 1000 was water cooled .. not air cooled .
Your using a pre-war design which, admittedly carried on after that time - as did the popular and prefect; related ones which were similar in concept. But to quote these as going into the sixties is utterly wrong! The 100E Fords replaced them in the fifties - a completely different shape - and later on, in the 1960s, the 105 E which had the raked back rear window.
Hard to believe that Citroen produced cars at both ends of the automotive spectrum which were legendary: the absolutely Spartan 2CV and the fire breathing SM.
The Moris Minor is also one of my four wheel loves.
Another cheaply made terrible rust bucket was the Vauxhall Victor 4 from GM.
This was in contrast to its upscale older design big brother, the Cresta 6 which
was a well built, if stodgy looking machine, that could get on a good road and
quietly move along at 80mph all day, if that was the plan.
IMO, some of the best cars ever made, unlike the yank tanks of the era.
I totally LOVED MY ANGLIA. I had to sell it as I could not get a lock for my door. That was the only thing wrong with it.
In the early 70's the 2CV was used by the GERMAN POLICE and I always remember our local police chief driving into our military base in the Eiffel mountains to pick up his bottle of Gin about once a month. Willy loved his 2CV.
You rave on about the Morris Minor not being able to reach "Highway speeds" when Britain didn't have any. We had no reason to need for V8s or fancy big wings on our gigantic cars. You didn't get bombed every week. I'd like to see you drive a car any car on the roads in Britain back then at over 100 k. Funny though, people kept on buying the old girl until the mini came out.
Back in those days, my dad had a humble VW Beetle, an uncle in the family had one of these Morris Minor, and dad kept of slowing down to allow the Morris to catch up, that was mid 50's...
@@Philnn4641 It was more likely the driver, not the car.
You could screw 70 out of a Minor, but not for too long though.
@@MadBiker-vj5qj Indeed, when a Beetle could handle it aaal the way...
The 3cv did exactly what it was designed go, French farmers over poor roads😢
the Prefect was crap ?
that's why it sold for decades
what a crap video
Isn't weird that the crappiest cars were the most popular?
Hmmm.
Grandma always said.
Wished I had a pair of shoes.
Till I met a man with no feet.
The shaky camerawork spoils this video. I grew up at the time these cars were around. It was a different age, how can you judge them against modern cars?
Lord, Lord you are so Right~!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Skoda 1000 MB was my very first car. And I remember driving to the car servive station every other week with some little »problem«. One time the door locks ceases to work and I could not lock the car, another time a side window fell open after hopping over a minor jump, and so on...
It’s the same boilerplate analysis for every car! And each blurb twice as long as needed or interesting.
You need to research better as most of them are collectible classic cars. Their engine power was considered normal for the time when they were built. Also they are "peoples cars" which every honest worker could afford.
The 2cv is the cutest car ever built.
I second that notion~!!!!
I used to have a Mini Moke which had less extras than any of these vehicles, not even doors or windows but it was a ripper and one that a huge amount of people still want today. I would love to have another.
It was very trendy to have a Moke in the South of France. Brigitte Bardot has one in San Tropez? For Citroen Mehari fans there is a specialist garage in Casis which refurbishges them like new?
With over 90,000km on a Trabant in recent years, I feel qualified to offer a contrary view: Trabant brakes work well if kept in good repair. Trabants actually ride, handle and stop ok-ish by modern standards and are outstanding by the standards of early '60s. The engine has little power by modern standards and can smoke if too much oil is used. It can, however, keep up with traffic well up to about 80km/h, is designed for 100km/h top speed but is capable of 120km/h in good repair.
the 2CV is the cutest car ever made.
war-devastated Europe needed simple cheap economic vehicles to take her through the post war years. none of them was crappy.
I know someone that wil rather drive his Simca 1000 than his Landrover.
I remember th 3 Daufhines we had. I loved the little car.
Rich people could also afford them
A friend had a 2CV and people were amazed when he drove it wearing only jesns and a t shirt. He had a Webasto heater. They were also amazed that it could do 120 km/h It had an Ami 6 engine.
The 2CV used the cooling air from the engine to heat the cabin, and was a pretty nice car to drive, as was its upgraded variant, the Dyane.
I wish that someone will make a video about the crappy US vehicles of that time. You are so arrogant critising European inventions while your car industry still uses pre war technique. And when there weren't the European inventors the US population still would be driving around in Model Ts
Someone has. The video is under 3 minutes, but manages to say just about everything that needs to be said. Title- Why 1970s american cars are awful | Jeremy clarkson's motorworld | Top gear
I had a 59 Dualphin (given to me) and it was not as bad as you put out, now everything you said was true. However with a solid background in tuning motorcycle you could get it up to 70. The seating was all right for 4 adults given that they would accept a seating position very similar to that of a kitchen table chair. It could be driven to school and to the store which is a real slice of the market.
I'm sorry that I need to correct yout at one place. While you showed the Trabant 601, two stroke by Eastern Germany you made two significant mistakes.
1. Between the Trabant cars at time stamp 11:35 the gey car wasn't a Trabant. THAT was a car to talk about also because of some special details about it.
That was a DAF 33 a dutch car produced in the netherlands. DAF exists until today with Trucks in Europe wich has very good reputation.
The cars of DAF had a very unique gearbox, the so called "variomatic" wich works like what is used in scooters.
The dutch DAF cars have been the only cars in the world with just one drive position forward and backwards wich means the cars where able to drive backwards and forward with maximum speed. There where different models from Daf 33 Daf 44, Daf 55 and Daf 66 wich was the last and strongest before Daf car section where sold to the swedisch Volvo. The Daf 66 has been buildet under the name Volvo 66 for a while after the car section of Daf cars died. The most remarkable to tell about it, that this car was the only car streetlegal build like that which could go 160 km/h in one gear BACKWARDS.
The second mistake is, after the fall of the german wall thousands of Trabants where lefr abandoned to rust in fields to rust.
No sir, what did you tell tell your audience of what the body of the Trabant was made? DUROPLAST? AND what did you tell what that stuff is? Right. PLASTIC
Since when plastic can rust?
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The Ford Prefect was launched in 1938, what's it doing in this video at all?
The Ford Anglia had the option of the new Ford Kent engine which continued in many European Ford cars until the 1980s. This was a modern car built to drive on the new motorways, it was replaced by the Ford Escort which while being slighty larger evolved directly from it. This car may have been small but it was in no way crappy!
The aurthor of this video simply doesn't like small pre motorway cars that driving on narrow twisting roads didn't need to go fast!
LOVE to find a Wartburg in good condition. I would get rid of the engine (save it as a museum exhibit) and ELECTRIFY my car as an eV! No noise, no engine problems, no overheating, and most of all NO pollution! I would aesthetically retain the seating but make more comfortable.
What is overlooked here is the when these cars were built the speed limits were 30 to 40 mph so performance was not a consideration. There were no motorways just 2 Lane roads .🇬🇧
Its a bit insulting video. Those were nice and economical cars.
Is the phrase "something only poor people can afford" correct English?
If it is it's still Stupid~!!!!!!!!!
It's a complete waste of words.
The Seat (say-at) 600 was affectionately known in Spain as an “umbligo” (belly button) because everyone had one !
Morris Minor "crappy"?!?!?! I'd rather have one of them than a crappy Ford Edsel any day.
... And WTF is a "Hillman Minks"? It's called a Minx. That one error shows just how little research you did for this.
I suppose you drive a pedestrian crushing enormous truck.
I have never encountered such a completely out of touch video like this before.
If this guy is so enamored with horse power, size and comfort features, then this is probably the wrong venue for him.
To trash talk some of the best selling cars ever, that were made to service a need and another time. Is completely ridiculous.
Most of these were legendary vehicles, that this guy clearly doesn't understand.
I would like to say that I finished the video, but I can't.
It was just too CRAPPY.
I have owned one of these cars 40 years ago and thought at the time it a bit under powered but it was still better than walking. Tell me what car today can transport a piano or a double bed?. It was a brilliant design. My many memories has cone back to me of the enjoyment of owing one. In resent times I was crossing the Australian Nullarbor, thousand km of straight road with nothing in between and I come across the Citroen CV club crossing without break down for a forty year old plus car being so reliable, it says a lot about modern cars.
The Ford Prefect in the video is a 1940s version, which had been superceded by an updated version by 1951. The Citroen 2CV, Fiat 600 and the Morris Minor were simple, cheap, reliable cars aimed at specific markets and could nvere be described as crappy. The video talks about 1931 Hillmand Minx, but shows later 1950s model. The final version of the Minx was a much smaller, rear-engined car, nothing like the versions shown in the video. The Austin A35 had been replaced by the Austin 7 variant of a Morris 1100 in the early 1960s. The Ford Anglia of 1948 was similar to the Ford Prefet shown in your video and had been replaced by a modern version by 1950. The reverse slope rear window suceeded in reducing glare for drivers - my first cat, simple, cheap, reliable enough and easy for owners to carry out DIY reepairs. I had also owned a Wartburg in the 1970s - the Knight, which was an excellent car, good performance, reliable, easy to drive and repair. Overall, to use your own words - a video with a crappy perspective and disdain for cheaper cars.
Hmmm let's see, take a bunch of iconic and well-loved European classics and use an American narrator to call them "crappy". Could this possibly be an attempt at disinformation from a malignant actor, seeking to promote division and social disharmony??
Why show a Daf while commenting the Trabant?
Poor editing.
Typical American view. How cars that were produced for more than a decade and sold in millions be crappy and bad? Renault Dauphine 11 Years and over two millions, Ford Prefect 23 Years, Trabant 34 Years, over 3 million units, Citroën 2CV 42 Years, nearly 4 millions, Morris Minor 23 Years, 1.5 million, and so on. Many of them are iconic cars, and many of them, also, are on the roads even today and reaches high prices when sold. USA are not the whole world, you know. Many of the problems with European cars in America were due to American mechanics not knowing how to maintain and repair them. Finally, what to say about the title of this video: "... Only Poor People Could Afford"?! What, rich ones could not afford them? All in all, dear "Classic Cars", this is a very poorly done job.
Killo-meters, please. NOT killomiters. Do you say millimiters. or milli-meters?
you repeated everything over and over again. this video could have been 10 minutes long
So - are you making any money with these AI generated videos? 😅
We had licented FIAT 600 that we called Zastava 600, mostly it's know as Zastava 750 and 850 which diffrence was just a stronger engine. The people realy liked, first car of my grandpa before he swichet to 1989 Zastava 102 Yugo Koral 45 (same engine but Yugo's tuned max up) to end up on 1989 Volkswagen Golf MK2 1.6 Diesel...
The Morris Minor is one of the nicest cars I have driven!
My friends wife had one of the early Morris Minors. It had the same 848cc 23 hp sidevalve engine as my old Morris 8 and could barely do 60 mph.
Morris side valve was a stop gap until the production of A series from the Austin side of BMC could be ramped up.
918cc side valve, previously fitted to the Morris 8
@@andrewwmacfadyen6958 The side valve in the Morris Minor was not a stop gap it was the original engine designed for it in 1948, the only reason it was changed is because the merger with Austin in 1951 to form B.M.C & the Minor was fitted with the Austin A30 of 1951's 'A' Series engine in 1952
Absolute rubbish.
Is there a way to block TH-cam channels that only spout out nonsensical videos like this? I don't want them to pop up in my feed. Every time I accidentally click on them, I help them in the algorithms, and I don't want to help them get any traction.
(Yes, I know, this comment also helps the video in the algoritms, but I'm hoping someone can help me solve the problem.)
Maybe everybody downvoting it will help make it "slip down" the stupid algorithm.
Personally I always FLAG nonsensical videos like these and hope others do the same. If enough users do it then they have to take it down. In this case I would use the "false and misleading" option as why I consider this should be flagged.
As for blocking crap videos like this from popping up at all, I lament is as much as you do and I wish I could stay oblivious to their very existence.
You keep referrring to the Skoda 1000MB as the 1000 megabyte. Computer voice failure.
Can't believe the 2 cycle saab wasn't in here.
Morris minor was the best English car they made.
I am 81, so I remember well the car scene in the UK in the 1950’s. After WW2, Europe was broke. Believe it or not, US viewers, mass car ownership didn’t come to the UK until the late 1960’s. Whilst in the US, you had power steering, V8 engines, auto transmission and air con, the cars you deride were what we had!!. Petrol was very expensive, cars attracted high taxation and there was no such thing as leasing, bank loans etc etc. Furthermore, there were still many many pre war cars on British roads even as late as 1958/9. I suggest you do a bit more research before engaging gear.
Roy W UK