Did Jumbo-Visma make a mistake on this Stage? Critérium du Dauphiné Stage 2 2022

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  • Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Stage 2 of Critérium du Dauphiné 2022, would it be another sprint between Wout van Aert and Ethan Hayter?
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  • @WilliamThePrincess
    @WilliamThePrincess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I love the effort on the "Dit is moeilijker dan de ZLM toer huh?", quite impressive hahaha!

    • @sdtok527
      @sdtok527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Funny how he accidentally made it sound Scandinavian. While the whole joke was that the Norwegian does not understand it.
      Maar ik snap het wel, Nederlands is ook moeilijk.

  • @epincion
    @epincion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    In his post race interview WVA used the term 'a miscalculation' to describe what happened but was a bit evasive when asked if TJV has done enough pulling at the front. Lessons will be learned from that.

    • @chrisko6439
      @chrisko6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd rather listen to Sean Kelly using that term.

  • @kevinreilly51
    @kevinreilly51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You know when the gaps get mentioned repeatedly that it's gonna be a gold recap.
    If only I could've watched it live.

  • @ehyouman
    @ehyouman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Just a casual 80-85km/h" my thoughts exactly lmaooooo

  • @chrisko6439
    @chrisko6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was perfect today: started watching the broadcast, riders have just reached cat 2 climb, break isn't losing much, it will become a close one, I fell asleep and woke up 2km to the finish.

  • @user-nh3ei4oo5s
    @user-nh3ei4oo5s ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job !!

  • @vegardhoelster3995
    @vegardhoelster3995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    1:17 Fun fact Grøndahl Jansen actually speaks dutch

    • @LanterneRougeCycling
      @LanterneRougeCycling  2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      yeah i realised after recording that he obviously rode for jumbo visma (with groenewegen) so my joke fell on its face haha

    • @simon6495
      @simon6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@LanterneRougeCycling Still funny though. Decent dutch mate.

    • @qopiqq3629
      @qopiqq3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@simon6495 dutch is my first language and i didn't understand anything he said lol

    • @jeroenossel
      @jeroenossel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@qopiqq3629 Dit is moeilijker dan de ZLM-tour hè...

    • @simon6495
      @simon6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@qopiqq3629 I’m dutch too and had to listen to it twice before i got it. That’s why i said decent and not great lol.

  • @checktaschu4492
    @checktaschu4492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    the amount of front moto the leading group had, especially in the descent was insane

    • @filippocevenini6266
      @filippocevenini6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So True and not first time happened in last weeks.

    • @iminc5498
      @iminc5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what happens when there’s French teams in a break, in France

  • @bram.desmet8687
    @bram.desmet8687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bizarre how often an early break lasts lately.
    I wonder how many more times this will happen. A (reasonably) large group that gets a nice lead and a peloton that starts chasing late. Although that was not the case here. Until the top of the climb, Trek's move seemed fine. But after that... I think it's nice to see, but frustrating for Van Aert to be 5 seconds short.

    • @Jaxck77
      @Jaxck77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s awesome. Breaks being successful is waaay more interesting, it extends the race out to much earlier than just the big sprints & climbs.

  • @alishuseynov4521
    @alishuseynov4521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bizarre how often an early break lasts lately.
    I wonder how many more times this will happen. A (reasonably) large group that gets a nice lead and a peloton that starts chasing late. Although that was not the case here. Until the top of the

  • @woutkoopman
    @woutkoopman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah, I think it's well known that the rider-most-likely-to-wins' team does the work to pull back a group. Looked like they just didn't ride smart enough. Time for the managers to get the heads straight. To me looks like laporte didn't want to put in the work

  • @kidnamedfinger420
    @kidnamedfinger420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a sprint and victory for Villermoz

  • @mikejwheatley
    @mikejwheatley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was watching the placement tracker in the route map on the Dauphine website. Did I see it correctly? Seemed to indicate that Froomey went off the front of the peloton to attempt to bridge the gap to leading group, and then get gathered in and dropped for a bit, before he rejoined the peloton and got a respectable finishing place? Can’t find any reports or footage to support it so wondering if maybe the gps data was flawed.

    • @jonmccarthy7741
      @jonmccarthy7741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I'm getting a bit frustrated trying to follow Froomie's position. Saw him roadside in the Mercan'Tour Classic. He's looking good.

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Did Jumbo-Visma make a mistake? They have the strongest team. They had the yellow jersey. It was up to them to bring the breakaway back.

  • @mariomanov8453
    @mariomanov8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think,that the breakaway group working great together and Jumbo Visma find right pace too late.. That's good in cycling,not every time the strongest or favourite win,;-)

  • @danbuchman7497
    @danbuchman7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Weird situation for JV. They are clearly the strongest team (not even close). So do they just go out and try to win every stage? As it unfolded, I really thought they could easily bring the break back until 20k to go (they have the horses in this race with CH, TB, CL, and SK, let alone WOUT). My take is they don’t want to seem greedy cause they could conceivably take every stage except TT. I think if this was a Grand Tour, they would simply hand the GC lead off until the final week but with only one week, do they just let it roll and become greedy villains? Especially with relegation. I guess it doesn’t matter since Ineos, Bahrain and UAE chose their own squad.

  • @robindelory7339
    @robindelory7339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean, it's not that bad for JV actually. As the Belgian commentators said, it's not bad to lose the yellow jersey because that means they won't have to work tomorrow and the team can rest before the important stages. Besides, Van Aert can win it back during the TT even tho he doesn't care about yellow. He's there to train for the green jersey and he actually took even more points on his rivals. He's there to gain confidence and winning the bunch sprint is all that matters for him. So I don't think it was a bad day for them in the end 🤷🏼

    • @alexhazard6871
      @alexhazard6871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s an opportunity lost for a WT stage win. Even someone with the palmarès of WVA wouldn’t say no against it. It’s an easy win given away

  • @user-yv4vj7ni6q
    @user-yv4vj7ni6q ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!

  • @eduardorichard4845
    @eduardorichard4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:21 LOL that was hilarious

  • @dkm8703
    @dkm8703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:14 what is up with that yellow jersey?? lololol

  • @user-gy7vt3zl8r
    @user-gy7vt3zl8r ปีที่แล้ว

    Молодцы ребята

  • @user-sg4zy4oz9f
    @user-sg4zy4oz9f ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the best

  • @nicolasmattelin2374
    @nicolasmattelin2374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a vid on arnaud de lie

  • @TheJackKWhitehouse
    @TheJackKWhitehouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    When jumbo look behind with 2km to go and ask for help 😂. I would've cried laughing if I was a rider behind. Are you mad? You done next to nothing all day and now you want help? 😂

  • @user-ej4cp6tr4j
    @user-ej4cp6tr4j ปีที่แล้ว

    Супер 👍

  • @SOVA-21
    @SOVA-21 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @Nuraium
    @Nuraium ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @Zlata6455
    @Zlata6455 ปีที่แล้ว

    Отлично

  • @Jelly_bellys
    @Jelly_bellys ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @alenaefimova9497
    @alenaefimova9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @user-jo8io7pj7f
    @user-jo8io7pj7f ปีที่แล้ว

    Это очень важно

  • @DrOghon-eo1er
    @DrOghon-eo1er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The moment you realize the last years second stage video was called "Stop UNDERESTIMATING the breakaway"...

  • @eduardorichard4845
    @eduardorichard4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Michael Matthews injured or something? Why didn't BEx bring him?

    • @michaelwauters769
      @michaelwauters769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthews didn't ride the dauphine

    • @robindelory7339
      @robindelory7339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was at Brussels Classic on Sunday

    • @texwallis
      @texwallis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's racing Suisse with Groves.

  • @lordbachus
    @lordbachus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Or did Jumbo Visma proof today you can not target stagewins and the green jersey, if your main target is the yellow jersey?

    • @cedrichennert4869
      @cedrichennert4869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its been done tho

    • @cedrichennert4869
      @cedrichennert4869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean it was the nineties but it has been done by t mobile in 97 /w ullrich and zabel

    • @smeetsnoud1
      @smeetsnoud1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nah this doesn't prove it at all, Jumbo Visma just failed. They could have easily pull a Paris-Nice-JumboVisma on the crest - or at least burn Hayter and GC riders on the chase

    • @alexhazard6871
      @alexhazard6871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And with Laporte/Benoot/Harper being substituted by Dennis and Kuss at the TDF, it’s only going to get worse for Van Aert

    • @Jeroen_K
      @Jeroen_K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well they allready have proven a lot of times they can combine that. As race leader they'd have to control a stage anyway, which takes the same type of squad. It simply looked like everybody in Jumbo apart from their leaders was too cooked to work after the hectic riding on the last climb. If their main target would have been the green jersey, they'd have lost 2 or 3 riders by that point, because that type of support rider wouldn't get over the climbs either. Also the damage had been done before that last climb - once JV had the chance to take over handed to them by the other teams, they had ran out of road.
      We're only having this conversation because Van Aert is the rare type of rider you can bring to a Dauphine (or Paris Nice to a lesser extent) and have win the non-mountain stages. Normally you'd allways bring a climbers squad. He's allways going to be in a team with mixed goals and with less other teams around willing to work.

  • @user-qs8ci6uc7d
    @user-qs8ci6uc7d ปีที่แล้ว

    Круто

  • @joaquinalonso3388
    @joaquinalonso3388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Jumbo didn't want to pace for WVA. They have to save their riders for Primoz. Today who had to work were the Ineos riders for Ethan Hayter and obviously, with only one team pacing, it's not enough. As someone who wants Uno-X to take off and get a wildcard for the Tour, I don't like TotalEnergies' victories, but this one was an exception. I liked to see something different and a 2nd place for an Uno-X rider it's always good news.

    • @wanderalmeida9584
      @wanderalmeida9584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was the duty of the team with the yellow jersey to control things, not Ineos.

    • @joaquinalonso3388
      @joaquinalonso3388 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wanderalmeida9584 why??? Their leader is not WVA, it's Primoz. Ineos were the team that needed to attack if they wanted to win the stage and get that yellow jersey.

  • @nielcutter3804
    @nielcutter3804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That’s the difference between Ineos and JV. Ineos domestics are just awesome giving all they got.

  • @user-gx9ro1li6v
    @user-gx9ro1li6v ปีที่แล้ว

    супер

  • @user-lp1jw5jx7z
    @user-lp1jw5jx7z ปีที่แล้ว

    Может хватить недооценивать отклонения )

  • @kcchiok
    @kcchiok 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    misjudged the breakaway group; lesson learnt

  • @user-by3nd8yv8r
    @user-by3nd8yv8r ปีที่แล้ว

    go well

  • @user-lg2mh1ro6i
    @user-lg2mh1ro6i ปีที่แล้ว

    Интересная , но тяжёлая жизнь велосипедистов , такие виды ....

  • @user-uf4im4nu7g
    @user-uf4im4nu7g ปีที่แล้ว

    🙂🙂

  • @user-yj4tw3kh8h
    @user-yj4tw3kh8h ปีที่แล้ว

    Класс

  • @Mike0
    @Mike0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Lantern Rouge Stop UNDERESTIMATING the Break | Critérium du Dauphiné Stage 2 2021

  • @ghettoqueue
    @ghettoqueue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TJV as strong team but would force you to help them

  • @user-us6kd5nr2n
    @user-us6kd5nr2n ปีที่แล้ว

    Вперед 👍

  • @user-fb2gs1in8x
    @user-fb2gs1in8x ปีที่แล้ว

    Vay vay

  • @clementdenis4212
    @clementdenis4212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great for Vuillermoz who had a couple of really shitty years.

  • @manontondalan9941
    @manontondalan9941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TJV doesn't like to waste time on flat surface
    they're waiting for the mountains.

  • @polochbabaaient2223
    @polochbabaaient2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IS sticky bottle with another rider legal ?

  • @Marcus-cg3vg
    @Marcus-cg3vg ปีที่แล้ว

    Go

  • @user-kg4ey5br6p
    @user-kg4ey5br6p ปีที่แล้ว

    Как

  • @antspage
    @antspage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    " i dont speak dutch" classic LT commentary

  • @SkySailor
    @SkySailor ปีที่แล้ว

    Спорт сила

  • @reteipdevries
    @reteipdevries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Van Aert is a comedian. He's glad to be out the yellow. He'll take minutes in the time-trial and win the whole thing.

  • @seesharp81321
    @seesharp81321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A 500m miscalculation. 🤣

  • @wolffsilverclaw2987
    @wolffsilverclaw2987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's not as much as Jumbo-Visma making a mistake as more not them getting the help they needed at the end. The Belgian commentatiors were mentioned that as well because it seemed that the others teams were just thinking that if they would put in the effort, Van Aert would just beat them at the line

    • @LanterneRougeCycling
      @LanterneRougeCycling  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      the other teams (trek, EF and INEOS) took the gap from 4:21 to 28 seconds though. they cant expect teams to help in the finish after wout winning yesterday

    • @Will-sv9mf
      @Will-sv9mf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LanterneRougeCycling Fr especially with wout in yellow

    • @robindelory7339
      @robindelory7339 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they also mentioned the fact that losing the yellow jersey isn't a bad news for them as they won't longer have to work to keep it

  • @deans2239
    @deans2239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    using the stage profile by "La Flamme Rouge"? Really? that's not on

  • @user-nc2hj3dk3j
    @user-nc2hj3dk3j ปีที่แล้ว

    and victory for Villermoz

  • @Kusi-uh6ji
    @Kusi-uh6ji ปีที่แล้ว

    Ops

  • @user-iu4iu2ox7l
    @user-iu4iu2ox7l ปีที่แล้ว

    ,охооо

  • @user-qm9jy5xe8z
    @user-qm9jy5xe8z ปีที่แล้ว

    Спорт это все

  • @ismailelmas2800
    @ismailelmas2800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hı 👋

  • @user-gy7vt3zl8r
    @user-gy7vt3zl8r ปีที่แล้ว

    Fddhj

  • @nurbekamanturov2465
    @nurbekamanturov2465 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cbngde

  • @nateridesbikes9204
    @nateridesbikes9204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First

  • @user-bl2kd7zd9e
    @user-bl2kd7zd9e ปีที่แล้ว

    6gg

  • @gulzatamanturova9329
    @gulzatamanturova9329 ปีที่แล้ว

    Лраыс

  • @florianbusch3082
    @florianbusch3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn‘t get better tho 🥹😅

  • @MuratErdemir-by8jk
    @MuratErdemir-by8jk ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @user-rx7cp2bx8l
    @user-rx7cp2bx8l ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @user-nc9qx3ye1j
    @user-nc9qx3ye1j ปีที่แล้ว

    👍