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It is funny how personal taste can differ. I absolutely love the touch-buttons on my ID4. It took an hour or two of driving before I got the hang of it, but after that I have found the functionality of especially the cruise control buttons far superior to any physical buttons (or stalks) I have ever used.
There is one thing I wonder about the Enyaq that no reviewer have commented on: The placement of the cup holders in the center console, how does it work in practical use? Can you still easily access the row of physical buttons below the air vents If there are two normal sized drink bottles in the cup holders?
The Touch Button are ohne of the Main reason why i will Never Bus an id Car.
Ok that is Not optimal but you have the Chance to use the Buttons if you do Not use the Cup holder. If you use the id4 you have no Chance all time. the Enyaq is For drivers and Users the id4 is More a stylisch Car which a lot of practical Problems and the quality of the Material its a lot Better in the Enyaq. Finaly the Enyaq is 15 to 20 % cheaper.
Hey, just for your info. There are three shortcut icons with star on the bottom part of infotainment fully customizable. Also the home screen can be fully tailored with widgets. inforainment can be set up as you prefer and like the same way as your iOS or Android. There are hundreds possible combinations. 🙂
I'm usually not a big fan of your videos but this one was really nice and helpful. Well done!
Superb review man !! Keep it up !
Thank you so much for fighting the good fight for sensible, convenient/easy, safe and solid controls at the drivers seat! Even though I love the ACC buttons at the steering wheel (with silver -/+ 10 km/h buttons) on the Golf 7,5 GTE I agree the Skoda ACC stick is better since it can be used blindfolded on muscle memory alone... VW is on a wrong path...
Great video, Kris! This may be a case of “the grass is always greener,” but from your description of the various things that are better in the Škoda Enyaq than the ID.4, it makes me wish we could get the Enyaq and other Škoda vehicles in North America! Real buttons on the steering wheel-wow, imagine that! ;-)
Hey Kris, thanks for the great content. I’m struggling with Enyaq v Ionic 5, Enyaq interior wins it for me. Does anyone know if Enyaq can get Single Pedal driving ( with complete stop) Is this an OTA update or mechanical restriction?
Fully agree with all your points, mine are similar:
- buttons on the steering wheel (better feedback)
- cruise control on stalk lever (much more ergonomic)
- regen paddles ... if they once increase regen, so that the highest level is a 1-pedal-mode
- cockpit display is not too close, like in the ID.x's
- the big center screen, even if - as I learnt - the resolution is not used to the max, as it makes better use of the options.
(in fact: nobody needs the sliders)
when I tried it I found that they still need to refine the logic behind. If you are in a settings screen, tthe system seems to be locked against short cut keys leading you out of that menu.
And yes, I also think the ID.4's exterieur shows a more modern car. The Enyaq is close to a classic Skoda.
But I also prefer the power roof (Enyaq) compared to a static glass roof (VW ID).
How is the big screen during night driving? Can it be dimmed or turned off?
Give the buttons do the same thing as the Id range I wonder if you could retrofit the steering wheel without any issues?
Hi, good review which reflects what I found having driven both. Was fortunate enough to rent a brand new ID4 (only 47km on the clock) for a trip across Norway from Bergen in the west to Bø in the east (roughly 350 km if you take the ferry across the fjord). Overall a fantastic vehicle, great to drive except for the numerous small irritations caused by the primary and secondary controls. Just to state what kind of person I am, and what perspective I'm coming from - I'm a gadget lover, an avid driver, with a engineering past, have trained as a driving instructor and I'm currently working in software development. Touch sensitive controls on a steering wheel that you're in contact with all the time, is completely idiotic (from all perspectives) in my opinion - but it's made worse by the inconsistency of function. The cruise control speed adjustment couldn't make its mind up whether it wanted to go up 1 km/h or up to the nearest 10 km/h every time I pressed it - so I gave up and ended up just using the set button all the time while adjusting the speed manually. This was after trying various attempts to figure out if it was something to do with exactly where or how long I was pressing the buttons. The touch sensitive shortcut buttons on the dashboard aren't much better - you're never sure exactly how long you're supposed to hold your finger on them. As for the gear selector being where it is - it's probably just a matter of habit, but I wasn't too keen and it felt cheap (but you're not using it that often, so it's not a big issue really) . In fact directly comparing the two interiors overall, the VW felt cheap (which is a shame because the overall physical driving experience was fantastic in both cars). Additional irritations in the ID4 were door handles, both inside and out as well as a few issues with the infotainment system (not so much the use, as illogical choices made by VW - like the cilma page resetting to the home screen after 30 seconds - you might be able to adjust this, but I couldn't be bothered to figure it out). The placement of the parking brake button is also a bit of mystery (it's ok once you know where it is, but finding it in the first place is a trial - the driver cannot actually see it from the normal driving position). The door handles on the outside are non-mechanical 'squeeze the inside of the handle' buttons which my son got incredibly irritated with as it generally took him 3 or 4 goes to squeeze the button correctly to open the door (I thought he was going to try and rip the door off the car at one point). On the inside - in the space of one day- 3 of us had the skin on our hands pinched by the door handles. Finally, the wing mirror adjustment control is a little joystick which can be twisted to 8 different positions (even though only 4 of them are relevant) - it's the same in the skoda, but there is one tiny difference - in the skoda, they have a little line on the top of the joystick, so that you can see which of the positions it is currently pointing at (but nothing in the VW). One week after doing the drive, I test drove a brand new Enyaq 80x - all the irritations I had in the ID4 are not present in the skoda - so for me it was a no-brainer, I ordered the skoda last week 🙂
I have owned an ID3 for about 6 months now and almost immediately realized that you can adjust the screens to your own preference.
In the meantime I have unlearned scrolling through screens. Now I just ask the id and it gives me the correct screen. Likewise for navigation. When you use the right sentences and words, it really works almost flawlessly.
Changing driving mode; is that only through menus on the big screen, or is there a faster way?
Thanks Kris :-) Very helpful ! I guess the redundant thumb-scroll wheel on the right side of the steering wheel might be used for future functionality one day.... I vaguely recall having two scroll wheels on my 2009 A4 all those years ago.
It's not redundant. It works right now 😅
You just need to have a quick look at the manual, or what did we say? RTFM, the scroll wheel is for switching between assistance modes...
Hi Kris
Are you planning to test the Audi Q4 etron?
Great VDO again. Please share the name of ending song, what a nice tune
I really like the infotainment system on ID. I set it up to have all the the info I regularly use on two screens, yes you can have only two screens if you like. You can also choose how many squares/widgets you have on the screens. I bet you can do that on Skoda also. I would like to have that row with temp adjustment tho. Really stupid to not have lights on the buttons on ID, especially when the shortcut button bellow have lights.
You can do everything in the Skoda you can do on the ID, and a lot more! And it looks better...the ID infotainment is the most static and boring design I've seen in my entire life.
@@Tafsern you probably can. I’m only saying I like the ID infotainment, not that I don’t like the skoda infotainment. The looks are subjective, I think the is infotainment look a lot better. But I haven’t seen it live.
@@Tafsern You can do lots of shortcuts and screen customisation on the ID4. Kris didn't work it out.
Love the comment about intuitive UI. Sometimes it hits me too.
Hey Kris, do you know when you'll be able to get behind a Q4 etron wheel? Can't wait for that one
It hasn't been sent out to the dealers yet, so knowing that is pretty much impossible. But it will arrive at dealers sometime in June.
I much prefer the ID4 in terms of styling and interior. Much more modern. The software is not that bad and VW have already committed to 4 updates a year. ID4 for me.
Yes agreed. I can't forgive Skoda for that front. ID4 is a much better looking future forward car.
I do Not trink so. It it the way Youlike. I like the traditional Style of the Enyaq and inside the Enyaq is much Better than the id4. The Enyaq is For me the Better Car and apart From That the Car is More than 15 % to 20% cheaper as the id4 because you can get Rebate, so i get 10 % rebate from my skoda dealer.
Skoda is better, id4 is public disgrace
And ID4 doesnt coldgate...
Hi Kris, once again a nice video :-) I agree with most of your opinions and conclusions. I love ŠKODAs and used to sell them myself, and drive a ID.3 First Max at the moment. I totally agree that the infotainment system and interiors of the ID cars have their faults and strange designs, and I personally prefer ŠKODAs take on the interior, however I like the exterior of the ID cars more. It is very obvious that ŠKODA designed the Enyaq to be very much in line with the design of their ICE line-up, giving a EV a fake ICE-like front grill/‘air intake’ - to me personally that is a shame and I would probably consider the ID.4 just because of this, even though I like the interior of the Enyaq more ... Keep up the good work!
The design for Skoda can be intentional. Traditional designs attract people who used to use an internal combustion engine car.
The enyaq goes into park and turns itself off when opening the door. But great video!
Many good points.
Thanks @kris rifa. Great explanation to your position in this and you brought up things you dont notice during short test drives - but still think Id4 is an overall better car ;) I ordered the Q4 though.
1. I didnt know ID4 had so much worse infotainment than skoda - things I didnt test and notice during my test drive but good to know
2. I guess we all like different things - I do like ID4 over skoda because a higher quality steering wheel in my opinion and also do appreciate piano black plastic including the door handles feeling and finnish in the center console which makes id4 have a more premium feel to me. These two things are quite important for me. I am used to that in my c class (also piano blackish center console).
3. Again - havent really used the steering wheel buttons on id4 altough I prefer the feeling over the physical buttons used on enyaq. I hope Q4 could combine the best out of two worlds.
4. Yes, ID4 has much better exterior only second to Q4 - I could be biased on my interpretation of enyaq having worse interior quality because of that.
Do you know if there is an electric car that heats the battery during charging when it is cold during the winter?
The enyaq has the ability to set car temps on a schedule while charging etc
Model 3, Y, S & X does also I thing all the MEB platform cars do too as there is an option for the battery heater to be a heat pump. I’m sure most new EV’s have battery heaters now.
The gear selector on the ID's is the best of any of the cars i have owned.
The Hyundai Kona (and Niro?) is heating up the battery when it is cold, but you cannot start it in advance like the Teslas do when you navigate to a charger.
Other than Teslas, no cars preheat the battery at the moment. Warming the battery is intensive especially when coupled with cabin preheating too. It drains the battery a lot. A lot of cars offer cabin preheating as others here have said already. I think the future Hyundai/Kia EVs may offer it.
Closest thing you can do to battery preheating is to charge the car using a timer so that it finishes at your departure time, this will add a little heat to the battery.
The Enyaq does look like a better car but here in the UK the pricing structure is mental. You need add thousands of £'s worth of extras to get a decent car.
That's true - the £41k ID.4 1st edition is relatively 'loaded' but I don't like its simplified interior (Enyaq wins!!). I've decided that I probably can live with the ~50mile lower range of the 60 vs the 80 - especially as it's about £7k less (so leaves a bit of room for the heat pump, 21" alloys and some tech toys)
@@iixorb the 60 in the UK also qualifies for the £2.5k EV grant so knocks a fair bit off the price tag on which you can then buy options.
@@8dcphoto precisely what I've done. Plus the 20 inch wheels are currently a free upgrade
@@enyaq_gorm i bought the Enyaq 80 with some extra For teur 34,5 (29,5 tpounds) family pack, navi, Klima pack, Full Assistent System, 125kwh Charger, Sport pack
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I really like Enyaq design inside out (with black interior though) and prefer it over ID4 for sure
Hi Chris, I'm a bit confused now. Why is the Skoda more premium/better over all than the VW. What is going on inside VW group. Just thinking out loud. I have ordered the Q4, should be the best of these 3.
Skoda has its own development department. Seems they did a better job. There is a reason Volkswagend head of software was axed last year I guess. UI design in the ID4 is horrible.
It's still mind boggling that Audi is worse than Skoda when it comes to drag coefficiency. The Audi will probably beat both ID (that's certain) and Enyaq when it comes to touch and feel quality, with Skoda right behind. But it has less space for 100 NOK more (if you spec them pretty similar), and that's a lot for pretty much the same car.
@@Tafsern The etron doesn't beat the Enyaq in the luxury, just try them. 😂
Niclas, I am also confused why, inside mankind, why don't Zimbabwe rocket scientists do better probes to land on Mars than NASA? It would be so satisfying to see that Black Lives Matter.
'Premium' is a subjective phrase. The ID family is aiming to be modern and minimalist, cool and airy. The Skoda more traditional.
Can somebody tell me what is the point of knowing the SoC percentage the whole time? I mean it shows you DTE the whole time, which is a more human metric. I’ve managed to live many years with the petrol gauge in my cars, which is only a best guess, and was quite confident with that. So why should I need more than that on an electric car?
I know it’s TLDR, but if someone can tell me why, it would be nice.🖖
SOC is always right. GOM is not. % is what matters.
@@Tafsern but my question is, what do I have to do with the SoC percentage information?
If Drive from A to B, I can compare the Distance to destination from the navigation system with the distance to empty from the BMS according to my driving to find out if I will need to make a stop to recharge the car or not.
I simply don’t get the point, it feels like somebody said SoC percentage is important and since then people keep repeating it.🤔
@@e-redj The fuel efficiency doesn't depend just on your driving personality. It depends on your mood, on the weight of passengers and luggage, the situation on the road, and weather, especially the wind, among other things. You must be really calm to believe that it is always the same and you don't need instant information about your actual state.
You can access the ID4 SOC via 1 click if you know how to. I imagine a software update will make it more simple.
I was so close to order the ID4 GTX ...and then I had test drived Skoda Enyaq ...the experience was a lot better...especially for the interior ...looks much more premium and feels also much premium than ID4 ... Exterior lets say I'm divided between them ...but interior is net superior in Skoda! Also Skoda is quieter in every scenario than ID4 ...in the end I ordered Skoda...cant wait until it arrives ! I hated that all piano black finish...that looks crap after 1 day of use ...and those touch buttons that are so sensitive and you touch them by mistake most of the time...When I got the Skoda for test drive ...everything felt it was where it supposed to be...so easy to do everything while driving! The most I liked were the buttons on the steering wheel ...that was heaven comparing to ID4!
Please do a capacity test og your Audi e-tron one day soon. I am curious about how much your battery has degradated. You could drive from 100% SOC to 0% SOC and multiply km driven with average consumption to measure the available net capacity.
I also hope you can do the same in an Audi e-tron 50 with 20000 - 30000 km total driven distance.
99% of my driving is to and from work. On the way home I stop for shopping. The screens are not important for me. The important thing, is that it is reliable. Everything else is much less important. And no one talks about reliability. Why do they not write about what is most important. Why is this a rare topic ?
How on earth are you going to measure reliability on a brand new car, on a brand new platform? You can't. Come back in 5 - 10 years.
Well, we don`t know yet. Brand new vehicles all together.
Enyaq is 100% reliable, it seems so far. Unlike Tesla, you can't even find dozens of Enyaqs burning and several blondes pumping petrol into Enyaq yet. Of course, such things may emerge later. But rain pouring inside the engine and the interior will never emerge because Enyaq isn't made by Tesla. After all, it also has the Rolls-Royce umbrellas.
@@Tafsern I am not talking about only Enyaq or ID4. I am talking about electric cars. Nissan leaf and Tesla has been around for a while. And there will be others. Are WV reliable as before ? Or?
Actually, the iD4 has 10 or 12" screen depending on equipment level and this has 13"
Beautiful Daytona too.
You have to pay extra for fast charging for a long range car, that´s just stupid. And that ridiculous grill, it´s not a petrol car. No thank you, I prefer the ID.4 over this.
Specials i Like that the Enyaq Looks like a Petrol car . I do Not like the Cars who means in is nessesary to Look Special. For me the Enyaq Looks Better, ist is easier to use, More Space to Transport Things and 15 to 20 % cheaper.
The scroll wheel on the right hand side actually do something. First of all, you press it to answer a phone call. Second, you switch between different modes with it if you press the button right on top of it to the left :)
Why do every reporter testing electric SUV so surprised over the consumption? ...hello? WAKE UP!? It's a SUV with so many faults.. high drag due to wrong body style (SUV), heavy vehicle 2000+ kg and big massive wheels. Tesla M3 saved 15% energy changing from 20 to 18 inch wheels. A SUV will have 40-100% higher energy consumption vs regular cars due to the factors I mentioned. Also higher ground clearance between the road and car body increase the drag and air resistance. It's contradictory to build a electric SUV, it's totally wrong.. and waste of so much energy. Let's go back to regular cars with 16 inch wheels and height of 1,5 meter and weight under 1800 kg... and you can use smaller battery pack, longer range and better car handling and characteristics. Regular cars as they was before SUV trend kicked in, have much better comfort and today's car industry is going in the wrong direction since people buy the wrong models. Are we confident with regular cars not longer being produced and used.. and everyone have a SUV? We also need to act on climate change, and everyone do his/her best to maximise energy consumption with SUV cars....why?? (Sorry for the SUV rant here..but my main reason is that MPV is a better choice over SUV if you need space and we need to drive smaller and more efficient cars overall).
The ID4 and Enyac have different design ethics. The ID4 is minimalist aimed at a younger demographic.
As to the infotainment. The Enyac has some hardware issues such as the silly ACC module position, no driver tilted screen and awful rolling volume controls.
The ID4 needs further software updates which will happen on the next 3 to 6 months.
ID4 is a much more attractive and modern car for my tastes.
The acc Module Position is the best ever in Enyaq . I Drive the id3 and i Laugh About that stupid touch. The Enyaq is For Users and drivers the id4 is online a stylisch Car With funktional Problems .
For me the enyaq has 2 main faults from interior point:
- the screen is not enough oriented to driver making it weird/uncomfortable to use while driving. I had feeling I need to move from my normal driving position to use it.
- the door handling is both poorly design and feel cheap.
But overall agree better than ID4 (I hate the wheel)
That is what I like about Skoda. My husband and I like going on roadtrips, so we take turns driving. If the screen is focussed on the driver the passenger/co-pilot has a worse view and can't help. I mean I might put some music on...change the route or what ever.
Each to their own. :)
@@starvictory7079 true but from safety point the driver is more important than the co pilot. The more stuff moves the driver away from the road in front the more you increase accident risk…. Of course it depends how much you balance safety vs convenience or you consider the screen to be operated primarily by the co driver.
@@kamelie1706 Well, I guess it depends on the car model. Ours has all the info needed in front of the wheel. No safety issues if I put some music on or look at the SOC while my husband drives.
@@starvictory7079 I guess music is not the problem … you can use the wheel control but what about the climatisation, the heating seat and the gps? Are they all accessible from the driver screen or the wheel? If not then it means you need a co driver to drive safe … not sure this is a progress :-D On the other side heads up display is a nice one … but not available for some reason on basic interior. At the end if you feel comfortable to use the screen while driving good for you … I could not find a natural position to do so without moving from driving position while it was easy in ID4 … need to try again!
@@kamelie1706 We don't have an enyaq. I just prefer having a screen that I can access if I am not the driver.
The climate controls are accessible in our car with the same distance as any car, in the middle.
The best thing would be voice control. We use that for google maps which we prefer.
If reaching the screen is difficult on the enyaq I agree
It should be easy to reach! :)
Is this a car review? Or control and computer review?
Had the same impression in the showroom. the bigger screen makes room for Information and a diffrent layout.
Is it a good BEV…for a SuV not to bad…but its heavy and lame overall. I prefer the next korean …thats a diffrent world.
The Enyaq is cheaper , because you get 10% Rebate for the Enyaq and nearly 0 % for the id4. The Enyaq has Better Materials, Better Design, Better Funktion etc. So i bought the enyaq
ID4 is not perfect, but ii’s really, really good car. Comfort is the main reason why people choose ID4. The seats, space inside and sound insulation are excellent. Infotainment still under development.
Well the Enyaq is has the same seats, same cabin space, bigger trunk, is as quiet, even more comfortable and has a better infotainment system.
ID 4 looks slightly clinical, like medical equipment. Proportions on both ID 3 and 4 are quirky and childish. The air openings on the bottom on ID 3 and 4 look underdesigned. Newest golf is also not a looker with the overly fractured lights while the rest of the car is nice and simple. VW design department needs a check up
I hate the small display thats why I ordered a Q4
Agree, lots of small details are better done. I like the regen paddles and the fact that you can actually select options and interior color. VW should fire the product manager for the ID cars, the configurator is ridiculous.
In Germany VW has already set up the configurator for the ID.4 GTX, and it’s just like the Skoda. You have about 5 packets in normal and plus guise, that you can combine as you wish.
VW wanted to streamline the production ramp-up. From the 20th of may it should be the same for the normal ID.4 and ID.3
I really think the ID4 is much better looking and just a better car.
Could this be true? 😂
Iphone users = ID4
Android users = Enyaq
Could be as Kris doesn't know what a Home button is on the ID4.
I know where the home button is, but the placement is dumb. And I use an iPhone 12 Pro and have used iPhones since 2018.
A case of the title not matching the content here.. And these things are preference bases, and not something that let's you say that the skoda is better. so thumbs down for this really miss leading clip..
Agree Enyaq looks better inside, but ID.4 is looking better from outside, I tried to configure an Enyaq, and it was 25.000DKK more expensive than ID.4 1st. Max. Keep up the good work 👍
IMO, it's worth that extra money over ID.4. More space, better interior (my own personal opinion), better infotainment and better seats. Also, with Sportline it's less plastic on the outside and it looks angrier in the front.
Different people different opinions .
Personally i like the looks of the Enyaq from the outside more than the ID4.
Interior aswell
But hey thats just me 😃
I prefer the overall look of the Enyaq compared to the ID4.
Nice, but it's still a Skoda and more expensive than ID4 with decent equipments.
Well, if your thought process is correct, cars are still the same as they were in the 40's. But they're not. Skoda has been better than VW for years. The Enyaq is a prime example of just that. They care, VW don't. So I've got no problem with paying just slightly more for the Enyaq. And rightfully so.
I am old, and its a Skoda. My subjective opion.
@@pnoman-re8cp While I don't like tafsern's way of explaining himself, I hard agree on his points. It's actually ridiculous to disregard a car based on brand (which already proven itself just as good if not better). If you were talking about Dacia you could've had a point but Skoda is not beneath vw when it comes to quality (or price) anymore.
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both cars are crap