Just brought myself a 2016 ZX10R winter ❄️ edition haven’t taken delivery as yet as I’m having a de cat and new Arrow pro race titanium exhaust fitted along with a flash on the ecu just to make things run nice and smoothly along with unlocking the auto blipper can’t wait to get my hands on it.
@@adamstratford6740 I really do like the winter paint scheme on the ZX10R. In fact, the ZX10 was the first bike I saw that first got me into motorcycles.
@@adamstratford6740 unfortunately I’m not riding anything. I’m in college currently and as you can imagine there isn’t a whole lot of room in the budget for a motorcycle, riding gear, insurance, etc. Plus I know my parents aren’t too fond of motorcycles so I will be waiting until I leave the house anyway. But when I graduate from college in a couple of years I would like to get a Ninja 300/400 or an SV650 to start on. My first exposure to motorcycles was seeing a ZX10R KRT on the street about 3-4 years ago now, so I’m team green just for the sake of it being the thing that introduced me into the scene.
Really interesting stuff. Just nice to hear a guy (talk) who clearly knows what he's talking about. And I don't even own a bike. Sad face. Those Metzelers with just a couple of cuts are road legal? Amazing!
Kawasaki do amazing brakes so should have kept their own. I find 42psi in the rear better all round. Tried 36 but didnt flick over as well on the slightly flatter surface(for normal road use).
how is the power of the zx10 after the akra with de-cat in any difference in the low end, and did you get power commander or any other ecu mods on this bike?
Good review, I totally agree somewhat. Yes you are right. At minimum, you would need to change the following on a ZX10R to travel any distance. The gearing (sorry I know you hadn't mentioned this but I'm sure you can agree the gearing is very tall), a gel seat (as you said, the seat), a double bubble screen (as you said). Rear sets adjustment plates yes, solid rear sets no. Unfortunately due to having race rear sets on a number of road bikes I would now disagree. In my opinion they make a road bike worse (great on a race bike), if not for how they keep catching on you boots (as they don't fold back) each time you lift your foot from the ground when stopped it would be the vibration that is so annoying as they are solid mounted with no flex (how do you not end up without your feet going numb with those pegs?).
Neevesy, I have the winter edition which comes with the same end can (still have the cat) I've done less than 200 miles but sadly dislocated my knee so of the road awhile, as I can't ride what upgrades do you recommend as a must for this bike. Cheers
Neevesy, what tyre pressure did you use on street and track? I cant decide between racetec and m7rr for mixed (30%track 70%street) use... Great updates, thanks!
i didnt understand sorrythe breakes are good or not>?and the suspentions alsosorry im not native english but its hard to hear ur voicethankx and im waiting for the update after the track day
I'm trying SBS pads at the moment - we'll see how they perform. The H2 is the same. I've got a feeling it's all down to the way Kawasaki do their ABS. The brakes aren't great even when it's switched off. Neevesy
+neevesybikes honestly I'm surprised that there flagship bikes are weak in the brakes. I simply love my 14r but was sadly disappointed with the brakes. I'll try the sbs and if that doesn't help I'll switch to ebc. Btw I've been a America fan of yours for years. You rock buddy! Now if I can just leave this God forbidden country and move to the UK.
+ThaMetalMan thanks, mate. It's weird how the Japanese ABS systems spoil the brakes. All the European sports bikes manage to have ABS and really powerful brakes. The Panigale's Brembos will have you through the screen with the slightest touch.
Fast Bikes magazine puts the ZX nowhere near the R1. R1 came second in Fast Bikes SBOTY 2016 to the 1000RR and the ZX came a lowly 6th. Track times at Portimao were dismal for the ZX, the only "top" bike not making it past the 1:55 mark..in fact 1:56.92 Judging by this you'd say it's nowhere near. I think Portimao is a pretty decent track to judge considering it's still used in racing...
+John Peel yep, it finished last in our 1000s test back in Feb - a long way down on lap times. It struggles with its weight, lack of bottom end power and poor brakes in standard trim. Neevesy
interesting. yes I like lightech product..you did not say if you felt you gelled with the bike.after 7 days I thought you would have a first summary of the bike
@@neevesybikes neevesy, thanks for the swift response, and this brings the bike back in line with other bikes that have decent brake feel? Did you ever manage to replace the MC with an aftermarket one and see how that felt in comparison?
@@kieranmcmanus6073 I never made the mod, but it’s what you’d do if you raced-prepped it. I’ve never heard anything bad about the brakes once the ABS has gone 👍
3000 miles of the tires and they look like that... Hard for me to believe. I got the same, best street tyres you can buy, but I get only around 400-500 miles out of the rear and maybe a 800 from the front, one track day for the rear, two for the front, and there is no tread left from the side. I would buy the same when I can, for now I'm stick with the slicks, even though they aren't very nice for the road.
Apparently not so many laps on the track and mostly road riding. Never the less I really liked those tyres and despide the mileage I got I strongly recommend them. You cant ask more from a street tyre when it comes to riding hard on the dry. Too bad I can't post a photo to show you how the rear looked after those 400-500 miles and actually still griped well, not like new, but well.
Well there isn't a lots of options here in my country.So I ride on our only track or on Serres, but those tyres had rolled on only our track - Dragon, not very long track with not very good surface. Ooo I did a bit of riding on old airstrip that was harsh too. They were K3. I hope I will be able to afford to try some of the more famous european tracks.
@CSKAwrestling old comment I know, but our man Neevsy might be a little more smooth on the gas than your good self too? He's probably also fastitidious with tyre pressures which can really impact tyre life
Just brought myself a 2016 ZX10R winter ❄️ edition haven’t taken delivery as yet as I’m having a de cat and new Arrow pro race titanium exhaust fitted along with a flash on the ecu just to make things run nice and smoothly along with unlocking the auto blipper can’t wait to get my hands on it.
How has it been?
@@davidbresnahan5986 awesome bike mate although i no longer have the bike. This was it th-cam.com/video/4JyuZfccoxw/w-d-xo.html
@@adamstratford6740 I really do like the winter paint scheme on the ZX10R. In fact, the ZX10 was the first bike I saw that first got me into motorcycles.
@@davidbresnahan5986 yeah the Winter ❄️ edition is imo the best livery Kawasaki have done. What are you riding?
@@adamstratford6740 unfortunately I’m not riding anything. I’m in college currently and as you can imagine there isn’t a whole lot of room in the budget for a motorcycle, riding gear, insurance, etc. Plus I know my parents aren’t too fond of motorcycles so I will be waiting until I leave the house anyway. But when I graduate from college in a couple of years I would like to get a Ninja 300/400 or an SV650 to start on. My first exposure to motorcycles was seeing a ZX10R KRT on the street about 3-4 years ago now, so I’m team green just for the sake of it being the thing that introduced me into the scene.
great review of a bloody good bike !
Excellent update, cheers for that...bet you had a blast!!!
Very good insight Neevsy
Really interesting stuff. Just nice to hear a guy (talk) who clearly knows what he's talking about. And I don't even own a bike. Sad face. Those Metzelers with just a couple of cuts are road legal? Amazing!
Sir, as always you teach me something EACH video. Sold me on the tires, not so much on the bike. Great review
"The seat's a lot more comfortable, but only just"Ahh... reminds me of my favourite F1 commentator...That's a compliment btw
Kawasaki do amazing brakes so should have kept their own. I find 42psi in the rear better all round. Tried 36 but didnt flick over as well on the slightly flatter surface(for normal road use).
Nice work Neevesy!
Excellent review. Maybe we have more videos of the Cagiva in the future ?
Would you be able to share what you've done with the bike specially in the engine dept.???
how is the power of the zx10 after the akra with de-cat in any difference in the low end, and did you get power commander or any other ecu mods on this bike?
Great update Sir...thank you!
Good review, I totally agree somewhat. Yes you are right. At minimum, you would need to change the following on a ZX10R to travel any distance. The gearing (sorry I know you hadn't mentioned this but I'm sure you can agree the gearing is very tall), a gel seat (as you said, the seat), a double bubble screen (as you said). Rear sets adjustment plates yes, solid rear sets no. Unfortunately due to having race rear sets on a number of road bikes I would now disagree. In my opinion they make a road bike worse (great on a race bike), if not for how they keep catching on you boots (as they don't fold back) each time you lift your foot from the ground when stopped it would be the vibration that is so annoying as they are solid mounted with no flex (how do you not end up without your feet going numb with those pegs?).
Neevesy, I have the winter edition which comes with the same end can (still have the cat) I've done less than 200 miles but sadly dislocated my knee so of the road awhile, as I can't ride what upgrades do you recommend as a must for this bike. Cheers
I'd have been impressed if you had been able to get tucked in under the tank lol
I have this bike and once the brakes are beaded in, there awesome
Neevesy, what tyre pressure did you use on street and track? I cant decide between racetec and m7rr for mixed (30%track 70%street) use... Great updates, thanks!
36/36 road, 31/31 track. The M7s should be perfect for what you need. Great tyres.
Great review man. I'm looking at one of these bikes right now at a dealership. I think you made my mind up
If you haven't already, do it!!
those tires are impressive.
i didnt understand sorrythe breakes are good or not>?and the suspentions alsosorry im not native english but its hard to hear ur voicethankx and im waiting for the update after the track day
how much giving mileage this bike on long road trip???
if we ride constant speed with respectfully???
How tall are you? Is the seating really cramped?
I have the same brakes on my 2016 zx14r special edition. I to feel they don't provide enough bite/feel. Can you recommend a different pad?
I'm trying SBS pads at the moment - we'll see how they perform. The H2 is the same. I've got a feeling it's all down to the way Kawasaki do their ABS. The brakes aren't great even when it's switched off. Neevesy
+neevesybikes honestly I'm surprised that there flagship bikes are weak in the brakes. I simply love my 14r but was sadly disappointed with the brakes. I'll try the sbs and if that doesn't help I'll switch to ebc. Btw I've been a America fan of yours for years. You rock buddy! Now if I can just leave this God forbidden country and move to the UK.
+ThaMetalMan thanks, mate. It's weird how the Japanese ABS systems spoil the brakes. All the European sports bikes manage to have ABS and really powerful brakes. The Panigale's Brembos will have you through the screen with the slightest touch.
is the full exhaust system much louder than the stock system
98db with baffle in.
So generally which bike do you prefer? the ZX-10R or the R1?
R1, but the ZX is getting closer with all the mods.
Fast Bikes magazine puts the ZX nowhere near the R1. R1 came second in Fast Bikes SBOTY 2016 to the 1000RR and the ZX came a lowly 6th. Track times at Portimao were dismal for the ZX, the only "top" bike not making it past the 1:55 mark..in fact 1:56.92
Judging by this you'd say it's nowhere near. I think Portimao is a pretty decent track to judge considering it's still used in racing...
+John Peel yep, it finished last in our 1000s test back in Feb - a long way down on lap times. It struggles with its weight, lack of bottom end power and poor brakes in standard trim. Neevesy
very interesting..thanks...!!
Did you take any other luggage on the trip apart from the tank bag?
Could it be the master brake cylinder that is causing the brakes not to give the feel as you would expect from these brakes?
Hopefully it's the pads. I'm testing a couple of different sets over the next week.
Ibiza in a couple of months.. Are you planning to hit mountain roads of Mallorca?
Unfortunately not...
how much air pressure do you run in your tires on the street?
he already answered that...36/36 he said
Hi man, how tall are you? Thx, Btw awesome vids!
interesting. yes I like lightech product..you did not say if you felt you gelled with the bike.after 7 days I thought you would have a first summary of the bike
This is my third update, Carl. There are another two videos...
How massive is your registration plate?
Huuuuuuge!
Great vid
80 miles per tank or 18 miles per tank on the track?
Joe Hammond 80 miles per tank of gas on the track. He said it clearer in another video.
that is akrapovic full system evolution line full titanium or what?
When are you going to review a BMW S1000XR ?
try Dunlopad HH pads.
Neevesy, in your opinion, which is the better superbike for track and road: the 1299 Panigale standard, S1000RR or the Zx10R?? Both stock bikes.
Well, the Ducati best both in our 1000s test this year. It was the S version but there's not a whole heap of difference next to the standard version.
@@neevesybikes neevsey, did you ever get to the bottom of the zx10r brake issue? How did you resolve it in the end if at all??
@@kieranmcmanus6073 the only way to cure it is to completely dump the ABS and have brake lines going direct from master cylinder to caliper.
@@neevesybikes neevesy, thanks for the swift response, and this brings the bike back in line with other bikes that have decent brake feel?
Did you ever manage to replace the MC with an aftermarket one and see how that felt in comparison?
@@kieranmcmanus6073 I never made the mod, but it’s what you’d do if you raced-prepped it. I’ve never heard anything bad about the brakes once the ABS has gone 👍
Noce review. I'm guessing at 6"4, you're not going to recommend this bike to me ? perhaps I should be looking at the ZXR14R.
Have you bought a motorcycle, iam 6"5 and riding a z1000sx 2019, love it, fits perfect. Did you get the zx10? How does it fit?
@@aleksandarbotic979 , no I didn't buy a ZX. I have a Ducati monster.
@@andrewkelk8414 fits ypi good or do you make the bike look like a pocket bike? :)
@@aleksandarbotic979 , no, it fits pretty good. It's the S4R which is pretty old now, but it's very nice to ride.
Haha....
"This things a lot more comfortable, but only just"
I was wondering about that as well , did he mean only just like in the sense of " its justified" as in " it should be " ?
"The seat is alot more comfortable but only just "... can somebody explain caus maybe my english is failing me here
Will this be the last destination ibiza trip as Carl is retiring?
I think they'll still be more, matey.
+neevesybikes great to hear. Love to do it next year
3000 miles of the tires and they look like that... Hard for me to believe. I got the same, best street tyres you can buy, but I get only around 400-500 miles out of the rear and maybe a 800 from the front, one track day for the rear, two for the front, and there is no tread left from the side. I would buy the same when I can, for now I'm stick with the slicks, even though they aren't very nice for the road.
I ran the same tyres on my R1 last year. 3500-miles from the rear. Neevesy
Apparently not so many laps on the track and mostly road riding. Never the less I really liked those tyres and despide the mileage I got I strongly recommend them. You cant ask more from a street tyre when it comes to riding hard on the dry. Too bad I can't post a photo to show you how the rear looked after those 400-500 miles and actually still griped well, not like new, but well.
+CSKAwrestling what track are you riding. You should be able to get a lot more than one trackday out of a K3.
Well there isn't a lots of options here in my country.So I ride on our only track or on Serres, but those tyres had rolled on only our track - Dragon, not very long track with not very good surface. Ooo I did a bit of riding on old airstrip that was harsh too. They were K3. I hope I will be able to afford to try some of the more famous european tracks.
@CSKAwrestling old comment I know, but our man Neevsy might be a little more smooth on the gas than your good self too? He's probably also fastitidious with tyre pressures which can really impact tyre life
Who the hell gets a shop to fit rearsets?
The shop insisted they fit them because they're being reviewed, Troy. Neevesy MCN
maybe people who do this for a living and don't pay themselves..?
The one thing I keep about about this bike is that the brakes are poor
1,745.4 and then at the end u say ur tire has over 3,000?? hmm
heres a review feels like sumthings lose on my front end i dk wat but when i front brake sumthing feels lose i dk wat
Louisiana pepper101 yeah the trip was 1700 miles but he's had the tyres on for 3000. Not difficult
thumbs up
The bike is too small
ok sorry
can i have you job ?
second
First! :)