Facebook & PayPal Scam !! They got me! Did I get my money back? How to avoid it. [2020]
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- I got Scammed on Facebook and PayPal! My initial response was to forget the money
pull my tail between my legs and forget this episode. However, after thinking about it I realised that's exactly what the success of this scammers is build upon so I decided to do the opposite and try to recover my money, warn as many people as possible about it and make it more difficult for Facebook and PayPal scammers in the future. In this video, I explain how I went and how to not get scammed via Facebook and PayPal.
DISCLAIMER: In no way do I suggest the poor guy on the Facebook Profile Images is the scammer, the images are quite likely stolen from somewhere and used for malicious purposes. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I'd rather have my teeth pulled, one at time, than dealing with Paypal. Worst terms, worst customer service, ever. 🤮
Well done on this video. The scammers can get anyone. Glad u had the courage to do this video. It takes a lot to be able to publicly say how you were scammed. Well done
Really appreciate the share, explained clearly and succinctly.
Banks & PayPal are all in the game together. I had someone use my ABN to invoice government departments, I went to the police, I rang St George bank because the scammers had an account at that bank, St George didn’t care, neither did the police. Over a 12 month period I received over 15 calls from the smart people following up on the scam invoice (I told them it’s a scam). I feel pain for the others who paid the invoice, because just in the 15 odd people who called me; the total was over $150k. Eyes wide open people.
The problem is not enough people are willing to take action after getting scam. Paypal, Facebook, Ebay, should really do something about this.
Good video. Thanks for sharing. I’ve found PayPal to be utterly useless also. It’s such a shame when these organisations get so big they stop giving a toss by which time they are sooo engrained in everyone’s lives it’s hard to walk away from.
So true!
I just got scammed on Facebook. I am going to report this crime.
First port of call in these situations is to contact your bank immediately, something similar happened to me, I contacted Commbank straight away and they put everything on hold until we went through the other steps.
They pretty much did everything for me and I got my $350 back, happy days!
Glad it worked out for you in the end.
$90 or $90,000. Makes no difference. Thanks for exposing all the steps you went through and the outcomes.
Wonder if ANZ relented because it was just $90. Would have cost them far more to have person on phone 1 hour.
As an aside, I believe(d) paypal hold funds back from sellers for weeks/months to avoid scams. Not for friends payments though. Cheers.
Have you been scammed? Let me know in the comment section.
For clarification: I state in the video "all of his friends are from Africa and Black" what I mean is that it is highly unusual for a middle-aged Caucasian man living in Melbourne to only have people of colour friends residing in Kenya. Please don't make this a racist thing, skin colour for me has no connotation in any direction it's just a colour I have friends from many nations and with many different skin colours for me the person counts not the colour of their skin. If this offended anyone my sincerest apology is meant exactly as described above.
In no way do I suggest the poor guy on the Facebook Profile Images is the scammer, the images are quite likely stolen from somewhere and used for malicious purposes.
Paypal is absolutely useless.
Thanks for sharing this Stefan. Hearing the obstacles you went through to try and get your money back I can understand why someone would not bother trying to reclaim their money sadly. The system is wrong
yes mate, it became a matter of principal for me if I count the time spend I lost but at least they guy wont have my money, his account will be investigated and i had no monetary loss and can sleep better
Hi Stefan, sorry to hear about your scam, seem to be the sign of the times. I myself have recently been subjected to a scam involving SUV DOORSTEP. Ordered two from a so called Melbourne bases company {SUV doorstep } two months ago and I have had no response to my emails sent nor any delivery of goods. Very disappointing. I’m wondering has anyone else been court by this ? Like you made the point, amount of $75 not worth the hassle to chase
Hey mate, ordered a suv doorstop as well, same as you, no delivery, no communication.
Stephan Stephan Stephan never buy on Facebook etc too many scammers. I’m in the global trading business and see all this all the time. Good you put out video on it as most people are gullible
yea, mate not a preferred way to buy thats for sure, but recently sold quite a few things on FB and that went well and this one just popped up and lured me in...
Thanks, Stefan. Some timely and sound advice there. I use Paypal for most of my OS purchases, so a good reminder to be on the alert.
Yes unfortunately PayPal also has a few flaws if someone is out to scam, especially from OS. Safest is probably PayPal funded by credit card 💳
I am so sorry this happened to you. I however do deeply appreciate you sharing this video. Thank you
No worries!
last time I had one of these where alarms bells sounds - I required the person to take a photo of themselves holding their drivers license close enough to read the details.
good idea
Even a genuine seller would be freaked out if you asked that
Its true paypal is useless in the complaints area.I had a 649 dollar amount that poped up, and they were useless(paypal) got similar response to you.My bank was amazing(CBA) refunded the money in a few days and suggested methods to avoid this happening again.The method I use now, is I have a debit card that only does online shopping and has at most at any time 20- 50 dollars on it.Most they can scam out of me is 50 bucks..
Thanks for sharing
Huusk sent me fake shipping info, after 3 weeks it still says "we are preparing your items" on the tracking numbers they gave me. I opened up a dispute with Paypal and got my money back straight away.
I got my debit card scammed saying i made a fb pay on my bank statement. They stole 75$ from my card. I have never ever used faceook pay. This is a bit different than this video. Plus I didn't talk to anyone on fb that asks for money. I have never got scammed b4. I don't have any cards linked to my Facebook account.And it's scary .sadly i have to close my card and get a new one.
I think you need to change the title so it reads Facebook and PAYPAL Scam. Paypal need to lift their game and protect their clients. If paypal cant or wont help to stop scamming then they are not a trusted company to be using.
done
I sent 900 dollars in a scam same similar situation. Made a police report and now waiting to hear back from the bank which will take a month and they said they are not sure if ill get the money back. :'(
Did u succeed??
Update?
Sad there are so many crooks out there, what ever happened too my hand shake is my word..
Good onya for following it through Stefan 👍 your persistence is very admirable 👌
Thanks You mate 👍
Thanks for this. I just got tricked also. But I will not just accept it either. Your steps and explanation are just what I needed. So many scams on ebay private listing (ebay are do not take any accountability what so ever, or even to control it. Also with friends and family paypal will show you the door ( we should stand up for ourselves and not let these scumbags get away it!
yea PayPal lost thousand as after that I pretty much stopped using PayPal I only use a debit card now
I called my bank because they denied my debit card and they said that they think I have several fraudulent charges on there and we went through them and I had like eight of them and they said they were paid through metapay. I have no clue what that is but they canceled them all and canceled my debit card to protect me I need to figure out how I got on that and how to get off of it
Thanks for the help mate, those links will prove beneficial 🙏
No problem 👍
I just fell for the same thing 🤦🏻♀️ 145$ for a product and deleted his selling account and add after I payed. Currently waiting for the refund from PayPal. Definitely feeling ridiculously silly for falling for it but I suppose you have to live to learn.
hope you didn’t do a friend payment as there is no way to recover it.
Good on you for makin the vid. Ive been caught before but got my money back through paypal coz it was a normal payment
Paypal sided with a scammer that ripped me off about $300 bucks some 18 years ago on a merchant account. I have done no business with them since. They have literally lost out on thousands and thousands of dollars because of that. Stupid of them for sure.
I lost 2500k trough Paypal when I still had the web development company, guy paid for custom development and after he received it disappeared and reversed money back from PayPal. Even beside us having all correspondence and a signed development contract PayPal didn't care and because it was a service not a product the money was gone.
No Mate you are wrong!
It is not a fault to trust people! I believe that you too (like I did) move to this country believing in its honesty and in the honesty of its citizen and therefore you have done nothing wrong in trust someone!
We do have authorities that are supposed to deal with these guys so report the issue and let them earning their money.
Let's keep believing it is a good country (with a few bad c#@ts)!
Cheers
Good on you for persisting. Funny that scam advertisements come up during your video.
lol that’s TH-cam for you
Hello I have been watching you for sometime now and I see all your lovely likes and amazing comments it give me great joy to know that I’ve got amazing people like you as my fans
Thanks for the love
Oh thank you
We have always used PayPal's normal payment service. I wasn't even aware that there was a payment option for friends and family. We were almost caught out with the biggest being a Phantom 3 Advanced which we ordered and the seller failed to deliver within the agreed time. Thankfully Paypal refunded the entire amount. Good to hear all the steps you took to report everything and that you will get a refund.
So should I not use my own debt card on PayPal im skeptical on buying a ps5 using PayPal i feel like if I get scammed PayPal won't get my money back
9 scammers gave you a thumbs down. LOL
it is happening heaps mate, all small amounts too . in the past month i know 17 different people getting caught out with this type of thing.
Thank you for posting this video. I like the bamboo background in your video BTW.
Thank you too!
I didn't get scammed yet but there is a user with no profile photo asking me to share there house for rent page.. after I do that try ask how I would like to receive the payment
Thank you very much. I didn't know about that
Happy to help
Thanks for sharing, good chance it could help someone
I hope so!
I got scammed he told me to do money bank transfer payment I did it and he blocked me? They said they can’t get my money because I had transfer no proof I actually bought it
I lost a big amount of money on a facebook market scam today
Cash app scam
If this happens again you can always pay PayPal "friends and family" but still use a credit card, although you will be charged a small fee for using the credit card you'll still be able to file a claim with your credit card company if necessary. The only other issue is that your credit card company may consider the payment a "cash advance", which is ridiculous, and charge a "cash advance" fee.
unfortunately not I did that actually but as soon as charge back from credit card came trough PayPal took it back again from my balance
@@AlloffroadAu Hmmm... Not sure I understand. If you pay with a credit card (even through friends and family) you can always file a dispute with the credit card company to get your money back. 90% of the time the credit card company will back you up, even if paypal doesn't.
correct and that what I did however I would have also needed to cancel my PayPal account as soon as the refund came trough from the bank PayPal used my PP funding source to debit the money again even though they previously advise this would be an option. I hardly ever use PayPal nowadays and pay directly via Credit Card
@@AlloffroadAu Still not sure where you're coming from. If you paid with a credit card and filed the reversal through the credit card paypal would have no jurisdiction to charge you again.
tell that PayPal they sure did
Hi! Your situation is exactly what is happening to me now. My debit refunds also came in after 24 hours of calling the bank. I was wondering after you got your funds from the bank, were there any issues afterwards with your PayPal account? Did you have a negative balance or did they ban you or anything?
yep PayPal just debited the money back so unless you close your PayPal account afterwards it’s no point. I have stopped using PayPal since.
@@AlloffroadAu I guess I got lucky but PayPal reversed the transaction I sent to the scammer and I got my money back. I won't be using PayPal regardless after this
I always offer to pay the good and services fees. If they still insist on friend and family it's a no deal from me
yes from now on definitely, however, if you look in the buyer protection from PayPal it's not very clear cut when you covered anyway.
What's the problem if you pay on friend and family btw?
I have sent a money on someone as friend and family. I send 2 dollars and paypal increased it for like 4 dollars. The 2 dollars was for the fee. What seems to be the problem here?
@@flashbackdrop5130 because you can’t get a refund if you send it through friends and family. If the seller wanted to, they could just not ship it and keep the money & you wouldn’t be able to do anything about it
"It raised some flags". Then sends money. 🤦♀
yep silly me, the guy was very good though
I ordered a product from FB once and never did receive it. I opened a case with PayPal and they refunded my money in full.
yes as long as you don't pay via Friends and family you have a chance
@@AlloffroadAu i did a bank transfer can i get my money back with that?
Someone wants to buy my shoes for $300. My listing price is 275. He wants me to ship them from CA to NY. He wants to pay me through PayPal. I'm not a scammer. Can he somehow get his money back after I shipped them out?
I’ve been wondering this too!
Yes, they do. I got scammed that way. I sent the product then I got charged back. When I claimed on Paypal, they said the account where the payment was made was compromised and they returned the money. I was left without money and without my product. They are bastards and know how to play the game. My recommendation is DO NOT SELL using Paypal at all.
Make sure your PayPal account is on security
Hey, I got scammed by someone out of $60 from PayPal G&S. anyone know how I can get a full refund?
I guess the reason PayPal declined your dispute was because you didn't have protection. Protection means that you CAN get your money back if something goes wrong. You have to pay for protection, and if nobody paid for it than how would PayPal make any money. I guess it's like a "premium" service they offer. If you got protected when making friends and family payments than everyone would be paying that way, meaning no money for PayPal. I guess you have to look out for people like that. I would never pay by friends and family, that's why it's called friends and family. Well, I guess you know now, thanks for the vid 😀
yes that's fair enough but I could clearly demonstrate that the PayPal account holder is a scammer and has scammed quite a few other people so yopu would think PayPal takes actions against them but that is not the case Paypal supports and lets them operate.
@@AlloffroadAu I guess so, but it's called friends and family for a reason
You have to put you PayPal account in security
Hey my case is quiet complicated. I wanted Order digital concert tickets of a Facebook resaler. The seller has sent me all the proof of the tickets. She guided me the process of PayPal and almost led me to the “family friends” option. And I used “goods and services” by mistake luckily. Then she immediately said to cancel it right away only saying that the money won’t be sent to her account becuase it’s limited. It her only reason she would give me. And said that pay pal keeps the money and that it’s a lie “that’s why I should’ve used family friends” but no consumer protection is covered thorugh that. The money states it’s still pending on my dads bank account but says it’s already gone through on the pay pal account. Will pay pal issue a refund for me with a call?
Thanks VERY much for the info, well done.
Years ago I asked a seller for a photo of him and the item,, huh,, I never got a photo , lol
Thanks for sharing!
Well done. Thanks for sharing.
I had a similar experience with gumtree. Only I lost a whopping $10,500. This happened 2 years ago. I did the right thing and reported it to the police, what a joke SAPOL I've had one phone call from a detective in the Barossa Valley stating a load of BS... And I've not heard a thing since...
wow shit that is bad mate, very sorry I feel bad to have complained bout $90
@@AlloffroadAu yep one of life's lessons. So, so many crooks out there. Unfortunately.. Cheers mate.
Was it for a car? ive seen alot of dodgy cars for sale in barossa with interstate plates on (blurred out in photos) and the like
Why was the detective a load of bs?
Thanks for sharing.. Well done on the follow up..
thanks mate can't let them get away easy with it
I wish I knew about scam & government web I got scam on gumtree couple of years ago buying a phone they sent me a $50 phone instead of the phone they advertised PayPal where totally useless believing the seller even the seller refund the money but hrs before it cleared they canceled the transaction then they totally blocked me even though I had there number. Lesson learned
I thought I was buying a cricut for $99 on fb but it was scammers. They sent me a plastic number 4 toy. Now they're trying to dispute my claim by saying I have to mail it back to China. Sounds like another scam. I don't even see the site on fb anymore.
I just got scammed out of $90 a few days ago
yep they do it often with the small amount so not much recourse
So i have to contact my bank and not the PayPal?
Thank you for the video
You're welcome
Well rhank for the video. I feel better that im not alone in being ripped off by paypal
ANZ is the worst bank to deal with on any level, the others aren't much better, NAB is useless. NAB allowed a customer of mine to be scammed out of $75,000. How? Customer made payments out of MYOB which had been hacked by changing vendor BSB details. NAB did not flag the BSB changes - they should have blocked them. Customer unfortunately has weak financial controls, and can't be told stuff like that, too pigheaded, so half his fault. Facebook marketplace is a no-go for me on any level, not even local pickup. Paypal as primary payment method not recommended. Only via E-Bay or whatever merchant you are actually purchasing from.
wow that is scary.... banks take where they can and do whatever they can get away with in my book..
@@AlloffroadAu I am with Westpac - if I pay money to a BSB/Account number that is not in my existing list, I have to put in my security key number before it will be paid. That's what NAB should have done for my customer, even though he made the payment via a batch file transferred from his accounting package. But a good financial control of always checking a payment BSB/Account against the very latest invoice from that vendor would have saved him from the bank's diabolical failure.
fantastic video, thank you
Thank you too!
Very useful information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
just got scammed today PayPal will not refund due to says it was a gift I could even show them it was a purchase.
yep they don't care, I stopped using PayPal wherever I can now and use my CC as I can file a charge back if required.
Did you pay by "friends or family" or by business
I use PayPal
if it works for you
You said everything except what you should have said, don't use a social media site as a marketplace via mail site. I think you're trying to shove the square Facebook peg into a round Ebay hole.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I did buy lots of fishing gear on gumtree and pay upfront never had a problem i guess I'm lucky. You got be lucky then smart.
I just got scammed on FB Market Place too. The guy asked me to pay for the iphone 13 via Paypal with friend and family option. I sent 220 already hen he asked for another 50 for shipping this time he instruct me to pay to another email but thank God my second transaction got declined. I told him I can't send any more money and I asked him to refund the 220 but he silence no reply back. How should deal with this scammer?
not much you can do that money is gone, complain to PayPal but once you send to friend or family you have little recourse. I pretty much stopped using PayPal only only use a debit card now
Good luck we just got screwed the same way
PayPal can be the biggest scammer of all when it comes to problems.
yep agree I pretty much stopped using PayPal altogether when previously it was one of my main online payment methods
sorry to hear scammers are scum iam lucky i have no credit cards and only deal with people i know. hopefully you never get done again
Wow
always pay any transactions via credit card that way you can charge it back, not fukn rocket science
Yep but this was kind of a private transaction so no credit card only PayPal but yes I agree CC is the safest for the customer for sure.
Using your credit card leaves you open for it being abused. That’s why in theory PayPal method is thought safer. It’s unfortunate PayPal’s support is poor. It’s still safer than Credit Card
“All of his friends are Black” what are you trying to imply?
hm, a friend mentioned that someone may take offence, what I mean is that a middle-aged caucasian man living in Melbourne unlikely has only coloured friends residing in Kenya. Please don't make this a racist thing, skin colour for me has no connotation in any direction it's just a colour I have friends from many nations and with many different skin colours for me the person counts not the colour of their skin. If this offended you my sincerest apology is was meant exactly as described above.
Lol 😝 been there ,
Woow woow 😍💋 💝💖❤️
i just got scammed by huusk knives they still didn't send me the items after 3 weeks.
Huusk sent me fake shipping info, after 3 weeks it still says "we are preparing your items" on the tracking numbers they gave me. I opened up a dispute with Paypal and got my money back straight away.
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure