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@@rjcameron3579 Either that or a bit of preloading on the bipod, I have a Ruger Predator in 6.5 that was spreading some particular handloads about, I shot less that .3" groups after I started using a bit of preloading 🙂
3 things to consider and test, 1: shoot without the can(harmonics), 2: shoot from a soft surface to decrease vibration(bag or matt) 3: shoot at longer distance(boat tail projectiles release gas pre maturely and can wobble the projectile but correct eventually like a arrow) or possibly a simple break in period Love your vids, hollering from Australia
I have the same exact gun, and let me tell you, I broke mine in with 40 rounds of the Precision Hunter. Shot 5, ran the bore snake through, shot 5. Did that for all 40. Pretty sure the last 15 went through the same 1” hole. I started doing my handloads for it, and it tightened up drastically. I used two different powders and two different bullets. 24 additional rounds. No cleaning between shots. Every single group I shot that day was .75” or less. Just need to give it a good break in. That Precision hunter ammo isn’t super consistent.
I always do a barrel break in before putting it on paper. It sucks but I run 20 rounds through it, cleaning between each round and letting it get stone cold before the next round. I have had great results from that method. Maybe try that. Just my 2 cents.
Some barrels take quite a few rounds through them before they demonstrate what they can do. Case in point, my 7PRC (Hart barrel) had to eat 40 rounds before it performed. I was getting 2" groups with both Hornady ELD X and their Match ammo. After shooting a box of the match, then another 20-24 handloads which kept getting better, I took another box of Match ammo out to the range and got multiple 0.3" groups with it - same LOT number as the first box. Went back out the next weekend with the ELD-X ammo and shot two 1/2" groups. Simply turned out to be the barrel needing to be "seasoned" as they call it
I have a go-wild in 308. I took the stock off and re-torqued the action screws, and one of the screws was kind of loose. I would recommend using the plastic things the gun comes with to remove the mag release and re-torque the action screws. It may help.
Thanks for the honest review. Some guys would empty the box of ammo and cherry pick the tight groups. Hornady designed that cartridge so I highly doubt it’s an ammo issue
Interesting. If you would have told me a Mossberg Patriot would outshoot a Ruger American, I would have said you are full of it. Comments referring to the can may be relevant but you used it on both. I have been considering a 7mm PRC and leaning towards the Ruger but this video does give me some pause. As always, thanks for the fantastic content!
Don't give up on it, you always say and have showed us that you got to find the ammo it likes, I hope you do more with that rifle so we all get to watch it unfold.
Try shooting it bags, I noticed with a bipod I had my barrel touching the barrel when I had the bipod loaded. I changed the stock to a chassis and haven't had any problems.
I saw alot of ruger reviews(alot of them yours) and shopped at hieght of coof shortages and found this rifle in 308. Thanks for your work & gun prime. Look forward to next ammo(s) test.
I am a Mossberg fan and I have the 7 PRC in their Predator Strata Camo, and I put that in an Oryx. However, I was hoping this would do at least nearly as well and I know another channel who loves Ruger to pieces and has zero to say about Mossberg. And I know you did not mention the name here because of the drama that ensues around that brand name.
@@BoBoBrappins I epoxy filled the voids in the forend, now way stiffer. And I had to use my Dremel to hit a couple high spots when checking free float. It’s good to go now. 👍🏻
Well…. I guess it was bound to happen at some point. All of your Ruger American have been flat out awesome out of the box until this one. I’ve read some good tips on the comments though so maybe there is hope after a different ammo and a break in period. Keep it up sir! 🇺🇸
I wouldn’t rule the gun out until you’ve tried other ammo and you’ve been shooting long enough to know some rifles only like certain ammo and that’s it. I have a very accurate 7mm-08 in a Remington CDL with a 24” barrel. This rifle shoots 139gr Hornady Whitetail, 139gr CX/GMX, 140gr Fed Fusion, 140gr Nos Partition in Fed Prem from .75”-1.10”. But it will not shoot 150gr ELD-X at all. Best group I got out of it was 1.60” most were 1.80 or more.
Great honest 100% real world reviews! That's why we love us some WTW! maybe they are right, could be the shoosher, we aren't even allowed to think about them here in Illinoistan! SOUTHERN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS at that! 22 miles from Missouri line!
@@alexmills1329 most 7 prc s have 22 or 24 inch pipes, so Im keeping my fingers crossed this has longer one. Especially since I’ve been seeing some chronograph results 50 to 100 fps slower than on the box. If I getting a rail gun for a rifle I want a long barrel for max speed.
I have seen several people with excellent accuracy. Odd that it is so mixed. Did you try without the suppressor. Could it be possible you are getting a slight baffle strike?
Have you seen Tom Rivers video on loading the bipod when testing accuracy? And one more thing. If you don’t already have a Teslong bore scope you should check them out. Very affordable to common folk like me and you.
I agree with some other people. Try it with out the cans. You could always try a barrel break in cleaning. It may be to early to write it off yet. Not a huge selection of ammo. You may need to remove material from the stock. Check the bedding. A lot of things could be going on. It may just not like the pod. As halfmile would say. Load the pod.. Look forward to seeing things develop hopefully it becomes a shooter. Them first two shots looked like it was going that way. Im sure you will work it out.
My TC Encore Pro Hunter couldn't shoot better than 2 inch groups with Precision Hunter rounds in 30-06. I went back to Federal Power Shok rounds and consistently get 1 inch groups plus it is a lot cheaper. I think it might be the Hornady ammo.
Any day at the range is a good day. You have it on paper. Now you just have to find the right ammo, or combo on your rifle. The harmonics may be off with the can you have. May have to try it without the can, or a different length or weight of can. Plus there isn't a large selection of ammo for the 7mm prc yet. Still a great video. Keep up the good work and thank you for all you do.
You sight in differently than myself.I do the old school match the crosshairs with the center of the bore first at about 50 yards.That has always got me onto the paper within 2 inches of the bull.After that it was move the crosshairs one way or the other.I always tap the scope after moving the dials on the scope..I hardly ever take anymore than 10 to 12 shots to sight in. I would like to try the 7mm PRC but ammo in Canada and availability can be difficult.
Crono the ammo, and loose the can. Vertical stringing says to me that your having issues with consistency in the velocity of the freedom seeds. I’ve also heard that all the PRCs prefer custom hand loads. Don’t give up on it yet .
The forearm might be flexing and shooting off bags close to the receiver might tell you if that's The issue or bedding and a stock upgrade might be the trick
Maybe try some hand loads. I've experienced this in some of my rifles. They'd not like factory loads, so I do a little research and try the hand loads, and that fixed the problem.
Not having watched your other videos I’m not sure if this is your typical shooting style, but I have learned in several long ranch courses that getting your thumb over the stock on harder recoiling rifles can make quite a bit of difference in groupings. And I always use a rear bag for support when firing off of a bipod. Having 2 shots dead on each other makes me think it has the potential to be very accurate
I disagree with the people teaching those courses then. Putting your thumb over the rifle and gripping it puts a negative force on the rifle you don't want. The less you touch the rifle the better
@@WHOTEEWHO simply not the case with a heavy recoiling rifle. Backcountry hunting podcast recently did a segment on sighting in rifles and explained the mechanics of why that is very eloquently.
When I broke in my RAP in 308, it went sub MOA after shot # 48 and it continues to put up subMOA groups. Put a few boxes through it before you judge barrels. I would also try it without the can as it may be changing the harmonics.
Sometimes rifles shoot better after breaking in the barrel, but typically not that much better. Like i mean itll go from a 1.25 moa at the beginning down to maybe 0.75 after break in. Also some barrels are really picky with ammo, but ive found my most accurate rifles usually shoot everything well. Hope it gets better for ya. God bless
1. Could be the can 2. Could be the ammo. I know hornady makes good ammo normally but I saw a guy trying to JAM those boolots into the chamber struggling with the bolt like the brass length was too long or the seating depth is not deep enough 3. Could be that the chamber was not reamed appropriately
Take the suppressor off and try again. That's a long, super thin hunting profile barrel with a heavy suppressor on the end. Even if you had excellent results with other similar rifles, it doesn't mean that you can expect the same results with that specific rifle.
Good video Adam will be interesting to see more on this ruger American rifle with different ammo and once its run in with and without the moderator although i really don't think moderator is the problem barrel break in and ammo type maybe! Hope your feeling better now take care
Hey WTW thanks for the vid. Maybe try thoroughly clean bore. Check torque on action screws. Take scope off and check torque on bases. Try a different ammo next time without any muzzle device. Maybe take an extra scope with and if it isn’t shooting better switch scopes
You Dang near have to own every a ruger American. Love the channel I will have to give that a big fat who te hoo.big fan from Maine. Whatever you do do not use that sig elite hunter. They are sending me new boxes of two forty three right now because it caused a squib And the recalls on it have been absolutely crazy.
I don't agree; brake it in with factory ammo; that's what we do in the army and we start & finish with a can on it ; I went to jump school & sniper school in FT Benning GA back in the early 80's when I was in the Army 🪖
Get an old camping air mattress and take your bag and tri pod to the ground ,see what happens. Glad you moved away from the sled, but resting that bipod on moving material is sketchy. I would get another big bag for the front . That said ,that is a magnum performance rifle bolted into an economy stock, it will take some dear at 300 ,no worries....lol
I have to say there's a good chance it's the ammo. I shot a box of Hornady match today and it looked like a shotgun blast I put in some of my reloads and got 3 in the same hole at 300 yard's. I think there's a problem with the ammo they are producing.
Maybe it will straighten out after more rounds are put through it and cleaned at least 40+ rounds Hornady is great ammo and they do supply the military; so it can't be all that bad and get rid of that cheep stock and go with a MDT chasse like the LSS gen 1 but you can also get it in gen 2. With the chase's they shoot much better; if y'all have noticed the military are using chase's on most all rifels
It's no surprise, it's all about proportion. When we talked about some rifle brand/model accurate or not, it just means the majority or some proportion. Even certain Hi-Point carbine could be very accurate. Ruger American is entry level rifle, I would say, probably 60% sub moa, 30% 1-2 moa, 10% beyond 2 moa. While for Mossberg Patriot, another entry level rifle, probably 40% sub moa, 30% 1-2 moa, 30% above 2 moa, sort of thing. So it's just about batch accuracy, and that batch percentage. So far TC Compass 2 should have the largest sub moa propotion, approximately 70-80%.
Also how would you compare the 7PRC to the 7 RM with a 1 and 8 twist? If it is the same then why even go PRC? The RM will be able to stabilize the heavy 180 grain bullets with the 1 and 8 twist!
Just bought one but when i went to zero for hunting....the rifle doesn't chamber the bullet....frustrated didn't have a change to hunt with it....i am going to send it back to ruger for repair...
The can possibly messing with your groups? Maybe try it without or give it longer for the can to cool off? Just a suggestion I know absolutely nothing about using cans.
You might need to do a barrel break in. They are building those 7 PRCs so fast the QC might be a little lacking. Have Heavy Metal Paul put a bore cam down the barrel. You might need to send it back to Ruger
7mm PRC Hornady ammo has been having major velocity swings from round to round in the same box of ammo. Wish you would shoot some over the chronograph. Seen one guy post 150 FPS between 2 rounds. Some are finding a box of ammo showing pressure signs and pulling bullets and lowering the charge. The suppressor can also be affecting your accuracy
It's disappointing that 175g ELDX won't group out of the 7mm PRC , but You know Yourself that some rifles preferer X type of ammo over Y type of ammo , so I hope you stick with it at least till You've given it a chance to redeem it's self . I'm sure there will be loads of viewers like Me who would enjoy watching You test different rounds down range . Just put it on a back burner till more varied ammo types become available . Thanks WTW , catch You next video . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
I was thinking the same thing? I shoot suppressed on my precision rifles with thicker barrels but would never consider doing that on a hunting rifle with a thinner barrel? Shooting suppressed causes the barrel to heat up much faster which will definitely affect accuracy! Like you said probably fine for hunting?
Did you shoot the rifle again? I find that the factory triggers just aren't the best and that is where these mass production rifles fault the most. I always change out the triggers when I purchase an off the shelf rifle. I had the same issue with my Browning X-Bolt Hell's Canyon. Upgraded to a Timney and now I have sub moa. I know you know this, but it's mostly for the viewers.
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My 308 doesn't like ELD AMMO
Who tee who, remove bipod and try again on some bags the recoil of the rifle can cause bouncing and vertical stringing etc….
@@rjcameron3579 Either that or a bit of preloading on the bipod, I have a Ruger Predator in 6.5 that was spreading some particular handloads about, I shot less that .3" groups after I started using a bit of preloading 🙂
3 things to consider and test, 1: shoot without the can(harmonics), 2: shoot from a soft surface to decrease vibration(bag or matt) 3: shoot at longer distance(boat tail projectiles release gas pre maturely and can wobble the projectile but correct eventually like a arrow) or possibly a simple break in period Love your vids, hollering from Australia
One thing I would try, given that there basically is only the precision Hunter. Seat them a bit deeper and try again
I have the same exact gun, and let me tell you, I broke mine in with 40 rounds of the Precision Hunter. Shot 5, ran the bore snake through, shot 5. Did that for all 40. Pretty sure the last 15 went through the same 1” hole.
I started doing my handloads for it, and it tightened up drastically. I used two different powders and two different bullets. 24 additional rounds. No cleaning between shots. Every single group I shot that day was .75” or less. Just need to give it a good break in. That Precision hunter ammo isn’t super consistent.
Barrel break in is a myth
I always do a barrel break in before putting it on paper. It sucks but I run 20 rounds through it, cleaning between each round and letting it get stone cold before the next round. I have had great results from that method. Maybe try that. Just my 2 cents.
I got this same rifle on 6.5 PRC and is one of my most accurate rifles.
Some barrels take quite a few rounds through them before they demonstrate what they can do. Case in point, my 7PRC (Hart barrel) had to eat 40 rounds before it performed. I was getting 2" groups with both Hornady ELD X and their Match ammo. After shooting a box of the match, then another 20-24 handloads which kept getting better, I took another box of Match ammo out to the range and got multiple 0.3" groups with it - same LOT number as the first box. Went back out the next weekend with the ELD-X ammo and shot two 1/2" groups. Simply turned out to be the barrel needing to be "seasoned" as they call it
Had a very similar experience with my Christensen ELR in 338lapua, which took about 50rounds to really tighten up.
I have a go-wild in 308. I took the stock off and re-torqued the action screws, and one of the screws was kind of loose. I would recommend using the plastic things the gun comes with to remove the mag release and re-torque the action screws. It may help.
Thanks for the honest review. Some guys would empty the box of ammo and cherry pick the tight groups.
Hornady designed that cartridge so I highly doubt it’s an ammo issue
Interesting. If you would have told me a Mossberg Patriot would outshoot a Ruger American, I would have said you are full of it. Comments referring to the can may be relevant but you used it on both. I have been considering a 7mm PRC and leaning towards the Ruger but this video does give me some pause. As always, thanks for the fantastic content!
Don't give up on it, you always say and have showed us that you got to find the ammo it likes, I hope you do more with that rifle so we all get to watch it unfold.
That is the problem. This is the only ammo made for it. 2 types. Stay tuned
3, outfitter is starting to show up. I managed to find one box a few weeks ago
Try shooting it bags, I noticed with a bipod I had my barrel touching the barrel when I had the bipod loaded. I changed the stock to a chassis and haven't had any problems.
Great content! We all have those days at the range. Thank you for sharing.
Try it without the can and see if it groups. It could be due to barrel harmonics.
Check the stock and barrel gap when loading on your bipod. If they are touching, that can be throwing off your shots.
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR, We ask and you deliver, god bless brother
I saw alot of ruger reviews(alot of them yours) and shopped at hieght of coof shortages and found this rifle in 308. Thanks for your work & gun prime. Look forward to next ammo(s) test.
The bipod in many cases cause groups to open up
Can you do some velocity tests with the 7mm PRC and factory ammo?
I am a Mossberg fan and I have the 7 PRC in their Predator Strata Camo, and I put that in an Oryx. However, I was hoping this would do at least nearly as well and I know another channel who loves Ruger to pieces and has zero to say about Mossberg. And I know you did not mention the name here because of the drama that ensues around that brand name.
I have this gun in .30-06, great gun for money. I did the Mcarbo trigger spring. That radial muzzle break works really well for lowering recoil too!
thats good to hear I plan on getting this gun in 30-06 soon
@@BoBoBrappins I epoxy filled the voids in the forend, now way stiffer. And I had to use my Dremel to hit a couple high spots when checking free float. It’s good to go now. 👍🏻
@@chrisb9478 good to know thank you
Well…. I guess it was bound to happen at some point. All of your Ruger American have been flat out awesome out of the box until this one. I’ve read some good tips on the comments though so maybe there is hope after a different ammo and a break in period.
Keep it up sir! 🇺🇸
I would not make a Final Judgement until you find different Ammo! I would love to see more with this rifle!!
Stay tuned
Missed the live but still watching! Love the look of this rifle.
I wouldn’t rule the gun out until you’ve tried other ammo and you’ve been shooting long enough to know some rifles only like certain ammo and that’s it.
I have a very accurate 7mm-08 in a Remington CDL with a 24” barrel. This rifle shoots 139gr Hornady Whitetail, 139gr CX/GMX, 140gr Fed Fusion, 140gr Nos Partition in Fed Prem from .75”-1.10”. But it will not shoot 150gr ELD-X at all. Best group I got out of it was 1.60” most were 1.80 or more.
Nail a plank into that table in the front. Then you have something to push that bibod against. It's the best way to precision when using pods.
Great honest 100% real world reviews! That's why we love us some WTW! maybe they are right, could be the shoosher, we aren't even allowed to think about them here in Illinoistan! SOUTHERN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS at that! 22 miles from Missouri line!
Try without the bipod. How you hold the pressure on the bipod makes a big difference!
Hope ruger makes an RPR with a 26” pipe in this. I’ve been wanting a RPR and I’ve been wanting a 7prc hope it happens.
Shouldn’t it be pretty easy for them to do it since it’s the same parent case? Shouldn’t be much more than a barrel change I would think
@@alexmills1329 most 7 prc s have 22 or 24 inch pipes, so Im keeping my fingers crossed this has longer one. Especially since I’ve been seeing some chronograph results 50 to 100 fps slower than on the box. If I getting a rail gun for a rifle I want a long barrel for max speed.
I have seen several people with excellent accuracy. Odd that it is so mixed. Did you try without the suppressor. Could it be possible you are getting a slight baffle strike?
I suspicion the flimsy for end and bipod interfering with barrel float might be a big problem
Thanks WTW. Curious to see if this thing will tighten up. Appreciate the video!!
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@@richarddixon7276 HI Richard
I have the exact same gun i hope it shoots better hoping to see u do a review without can and match 180 gr ammo
Try it without the shoosher. It can change the harmonics of the barrel.
You could have a burg in your barrel, do a proper break in for the barrel, and it could tighten up your groups.
Who tee who you could get three or four cinder blocks under the base of your table to raise your table up higher
Have you seen Tom Rivers video on loading the bipod when testing accuracy? And one more thing. If you don’t already have a Teslong bore scope you should check them out. Very affordable to common folk like me and you.
I also think you should try it without the can, need to take out all the variables that you can.
I agree with some other people. Try it with out the cans. You could always try a barrel break in cleaning. It may be to early to write it off yet. Not a huge selection of ammo. You may need to remove material from the stock. Check the bedding. A lot of things could be going on. It may just not like the pod. As halfmile would say. Load the pod.. Look forward to seeing things develop hopefully it becomes a shooter. Them first two shots looked like it was going that way. Im sure you will work it out.
My TC Encore Pro Hunter couldn't shoot better than 2 inch groups with Precision Hunter rounds in 30-06. I went back to Federal Power Shok rounds and consistently get 1 inch groups plus it is a lot cheaper. I think it might be the Hornady ammo.
Whoa😳!! that was a close one since i almost pulled the trigger on this purchase. Thanks for video.👍🏾
Any day at the range is a good day. You have it on paper. Now you just have to find the right ammo, or combo on your rifle. The harmonics may be off with the can you have. May have to try it without the can, or a different length or weight of can. Plus there isn't a large selection of ammo for the 7mm prc yet. Still a great video. Keep up the good work and thank you for all you do.
I would love to see if it will tighten up if you shot 20 or 40 rounds threw it?
You sight in differently than myself.I do the old school match the crosshairs with the center of the bore first at about 50 yards.That has always got me onto the paper within 2 inches of the bull.After that it was move the crosshairs one way or the other.I always tap the scope after moving the dials on the scope..I hardly ever take anymore than 10 to 12 shots to sight in.
I would like to try the 7mm PRC but ammo in Canada and availability can be difficult.
It happens. Verify scope is OK and try different ammo, has worked for me. Steady On. Enjoy your videos
Crono the ammo, and loose the can. Vertical stringing says to me that your having issues with consistency in the velocity of the freedom seeds. I’ve also heard that all the PRCs prefer custom hand loads. Don’t give up on it yet .
I’m confident you’ll get this rifle figured out. Great review as always.
Oh I forgot to add, good to see your using a bipod, they usually help a lot to steady the front end.
The forearm might be flexing and shooting off bags close to the receiver might tell you if that's The issue or bedding and a stock upgrade might be the trick
I’m at work and don’t have enough time to watch this video…. But I want to post it for the algorithm and encourage you to keep up the good work 😅
Hope you’re feeling better!
I am. Thanks
Maybe try some hand loads. I've experienced this in some of my rifles. They'd not like factory loads, so I do a little research and try the hand loads, and that fixed the problem.
Not having watched your other videos I’m not sure if this is your typical shooting style, but I have learned in several long ranch courses that getting your thumb over the stock on harder recoiling rifles can make quite a bit of difference in groupings. And I always use a rear bag for support when firing off of a bipod. Having 2 shots dead on each other makes me think it has the potential to be very accurate
I disagree with the people teaching those courses then. Putting your thumb over the rifle and gripping it puts a negative force on the rifle you don't want. The less you touch the rifle the better
@@WHOTEEWHO simply not the case with a heavy recoiling rifle. Backcountry hunting podcast recently did a segment on sighting in rifles and explained the mechanics of why that is very eloquently.
When I broke in my RAP in 308, it went sub MOA after shot # 48 and it continues to put up subMOA groups. Put a few boxes through it before you judge barrels. I would also try it without the can as it may be changing the harmonics.
Sometimes rifles shoot better after breaking in the barrel, but typically not that much better. Like i mean itll go from a 1.25 moa at the beginning down to maybe 0.75 after break in. Also some barrels are really picky with ammo, but ive found my most accurate rifles usually shoot everything well. Hope it gets better for ya. God bless
Also make sure the barrel isn’t touching the stock.
1. Could be the can
2. Could be the ammo. I know hornady makes good ammo normally but I saw a guy trying to JAM those boolots into the chamber struggling with the bolt like the brass length was too long or the seating depth is not deep enough
3. Could be that the chamber was not reamed appropriately
Take the suppressor off and try again. That's a long, super thin hunting profile barrel with a heavy suppressor on the end. Even if you had excellent results with other similar rifles, it doesn't mean that you can expect the same results with that specific rifle.
If it doesn't like the can I don't want it 😝
@@WHOTEEWHO fair enough
Would be curious how it does without silencer.
Good video Adam will be interesting to see more on this ruger American rifle with different ammo and once its run in with and without the moderator although i really don't think moderator is the problem barrel break in and ammo type maybe! Hope your feeling better now take care
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Hey WTW thanks for the vid. Maybe try thoroughly clean bore. Check torque on action screws. Take scope off and check torque on bases. Try a different ammo next time without any muzzle device. Maybe take an extra scope with and if it isn’t shooting better switch scopes
You Dang near have to own every a ruger American. Love the channel I will have to give that a big fat who te hoo.big fan from Maine. Whatever you do do not use that sig elite hunter. They are sending me new boxes of two forty three right now because it caused a squib And the recalls on it have been absolutely crazy.
Try and Eric cortina tuner brake. Put one on one of mine in the damn thing works and saves a lot all of load development
Interesting video. Here's something you could do take the silencer can off put the muzzle brake back on, and try that you may get getter groups
If it doesn't like the can I don't want it. My other 7mm prc does great w the can
I don't agree; brake it in with factory ammo; that's what we do in the army and we start & finish with a can on it ; I went to jump school & sniper school in FT Benning GA back in the early 80's when I was in the Army 🪖
try switching scopes and see what happens..or get rid of it..
Well that answers my question about purchasing a ruger 7prc
Great video as always and a big happy birthday
Get an old camping air mattress and take your bag and tri pod to the ground ,see what happens. Glad you moved away from the sled, but resting that bipod on moving material is sketchy. I would get another big bag for the front . That said ,that is a magnum performance rifle bolted into an economy stock, it will take some dear at 300 ,no worries....lol
I have to say there's a good chance it's the ammo. I shot a box of Hornady match today and it looked like a shotgun blast I put in some of my reloads and got 3 in the same hole at 300 yard's. I think there's a problem with the ammo they are producing.
Maybe it will straighten out after more rounds are put through it and cleaned at least 40+ rounds Hornady is great ammo and they do supply the military; so it can't be all that bad and get rid of that cheep stock and go with a MDT chasse like the LSS gen 1 but you can also get it in gen 2. With the chase's they shoot much better; if y'all have noticed the military are using chase's on most all rifels
Love the colors. Imagine a fde scope and bipod. Sittin on that thing
The point of the PRC is match accuracy out of box without handloads. I haven’t seen it yet.
It's no surprise, it's all about proportion. When we talked about some rifle brand/model accurate or not, it just means the majority or some proportion. Even certain Hi-Point carbine could be very accurate.
Ruger American is entry level rifle, I would say, probably 60% sub moa, 30% 1-2 moa, 10% beyond 2 moa.
While for Mossberg Patriot, another entry level rifle, probably 40% sub moa, 30% 1-2 moa, 30% above 2 moa, sort of thing.
So it's just about batch accuracy, and that batch percentage.
So far TC Compass 2 should have the largest sub moa propotion, approximately 70-80%.
Always something new and improved. When you can't find bullets for the good old proven rifles. What do you think.
What is better the Ruger American 7mm PRC or Mossberg Patriot 7mm PRC?
Also how would you compare the 7PRC to the 7 RM with a 1 and 8 twist? If it is the same then why even go PRC? The RM will be able to stabilize the heavy 180 grain bullets with the 1 and 8 twist!
Just bought one but when i went to zero for hunting....the rifle doesn't chamber the bullet....frustrated didn't have a change to hunt with it....i am going to send it back to ruger for repair...
The can possibly messing with your groups? Maybe try it without or give it longer for the can to cool off? Just a suggestion I know absolutely nothing about using cans.
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You might need to do a barrel break in. They are building those 7 PRCs so fast the QC might be a little lacking. Have Heavy Metal Paul put a bore cam down the barrel. You might need to send it back to Ruger
If it needs a break in I don't want it
@@WHOTEEWHO I absolutely have always loved how honest you are! Keep it up good sir.
Looks like a win for the mossberg patriot predator in 7mm prc
I THINK SHOSER MIGHT THROWING OFF IMPACT PLEASE TRY THE BREAK and 180 match I built-up one with boyd's at one stock 😮
I would kike to see the groups witout the can on the end. Nees to see how it groups like it comes from the facrory not everyonee has a swisher can .
Take the bipid off and shoot from a rest. Forend is flimsy and can cause vertical stringing when shooting off a bipod.
Also I don’t trust those cans hanging off the barrel,if it get loose it will totally change the harmonics of the barrel?
My other 7mm prc, same can, loves the can
7mm PRC Hornady ammo has been having major velocity swings from round to round in the same box of ammo. Wish you would shoot some over the chronograph. Seen one guy post 150 FPS between 2 rounds. Some are finding a box of ammo showing pressure signs and pulling bullets and lowering the charge. The suppressor can also be affecting your accuracy
You need a taller table? How about setting some concrete blocks under the spool that you are using for a table? That would be inexpensive.
Don't forget to add the suppressor
Wow. My goodness, that is a big set of groups. Let's see it with different ammo.
Try some group testing with the muzzle break or just the thread protector.
Did you check barrel clearance on the stock? Ive had to shave down the the stock on all my americans to get fully floated and it helped.
Thanks for your video and information. Maybe try shooting with out your can. And see if they are any different.
It's disappointing that 175g ELDX won't group out of the 7mm PRC , but You know Yourself that some rifles preferer X type of ammo over Y type of ammo , so I hope you stick with it at least till You've given it a chance to redeem it's self . I'm sure there will be loads of viewers like Me who would enjoy watching You test different rounds down range . Just put it on a back burner till more varied ammo types become available . Thanks WTW , catch You next video . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
I expected the thrid shot was going to do that because i thin barrel and a hot round will make itvwakk when it hot perfectly fine for hunting though
I was thinking the same thing? I shoot suppressed on my precision rifles with thicker barrels but would never consider doing that on a hunting rifle with a thinner barrel? Shooting suppressed causes the barrel to heat up much faster which will definitely affect accuracy! Like you said probably fine for hunting?
Magnum rifle, since its personally owned try glass bedding and double the amount of free float the barrel has (2 playing cards worth of space)
Did you shoot the rifle again? I find that the factory triggers just aren't the best and that is where these mass production rifles fault the most. I always change out the triggers when I purchase an off the shelf rifle. I had the same issue with my Browning X-Bolt Hell's Canyon. Upgraded to a Timney and now I have sub moa. I know you know this, but it's mostly for the viewers.
Waiting on it to be sent back from Ruger
Could it be the barrel break-in problem? Does Ruger require barrel break-in process?
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Maybe some 150-165 Gn hand loads if dies are easy to find.
Did you try it without the can????? The gun has a thin barrel so the can may be causing issues