Same for me. I've got the pixel 6 pro... was looking at pixel 9 pro xl they had some good deals here in the UK. But potentially Oneplus 13.... price dependant.
Qualcomm doesn't have to comply with what ARM is saying. The lawsuit will decide and even if ARM wins that. it means QUALCOMM will pay them more money. that is the reason ARM is doing all this song and dance,. they want more money.
@quantumdot7393 Yeah, but you know how long these lawsuits can take? These things don't get resolved overnight. Look how long the Epic Games and Apple lawsuits went on
@quantumdot7393 When it comes to license breaching, it's not that simple. ARM wants their money, and depending on how it goes, courts can force QC to stop producing chips
@@sydguitar99 if they rule in favor of ARM. i don't see why they would do it before makin a decision. If QUALCOMM is right. then revoking the license is illegal
I have the 16 Pro Max and I can’t imagine using anything else. The 18 Pro chip is so powerful with amazing battery life. The only other phone I would even think of buying is the OnePlus 13 Pro because it packs more power and specs in America that would make it last years. Best investment after an iPhone and or pixel
You can edit, animate, model, render, run virtual machines and many more demanding/crazy stuff but yeah you're right a pc seems a way better fit for these tasks, but its nice knowing i can store all that power in my pocket and use it all in my hands They should advertise these phones as heavy performance phones and not gaming phones because the greatest mobile games are over a decade old and can be played on the weakest phones from 2012.
Well with the introduction of satellite communication on phones, chips will have to be pretty powerful. Messaging is one thing but calls and data will be another.
Existing smartphone chips are more than capable for the vast majority but nevertheless a big bump in performance is a factor in upgrade timing as it should just last that much further into the future. The battery on my S20 is starting to go and the improvements basically mean a 3X jump in single and multicore. I could see an S25 lasting me 7 years with one battery swap in the middle.
I agree but for things like current gen emulation not even the 8 gen 3 is powerful enough to get good fps in most games so in an emulation pov this is huge
not me. I want heavy gaming and machine learning development + AI. I also want to have nice 3d modeling for MATLAB among other rendering applications. plus, I also like the AI applications the samsung galaxy s25 ultra will have. i would love having a device always on the go that can operate like a pc.
Well, they still try to get back as many money as they can before the court even start the case/made the desicions. (They already spendt a few million on creating the chips and paying the engineers for at least 3 years before the Oryon core released, and the X Elite not even selling well.. they already started to discount the laptops after 3 weeks.. and they still paying for TH-camrs to promite their laptops.. alias the initial launch was a fail, even on the discounted price it still a fail, they still need to convience the users to "please buy our product" with the still runnig promotions.. so they hope that the phone side will bring back the money, because the laptop side wasn't really a success, and they already spent their money on it for at least 3 years)
@@pspr33 I don't think so I mean you can't get the same seamless experience because QLQQM doesn't share everything with for example "Samsung" or "Xiaomi" unlike Google whom they have control over the HW and the android platform so even if the 8 elite is WAY stronger in RAW performance you won't get the 1to1 experience that we have now using the OG tensor
@@Kirito150 even with that, I still think a SD 8 Elite is not only leaps and bounds faster in raw performance but I think the longevity will be just as good, especially now that most OEMs are allowing people to have upgrades for 5+ years. I used to swap my phone every year but I haven't since the Pixel 6 Pro. I think that is a testament to phones being so iterative these days. There's been nothing really new that has made me want a new phone. Unfortunately, my phone has developed a 'bleed' around the front camera (no idea how it happened) so it's only a matter of time before it needs a new screen.. but I probably won't replace the screen, I'll just upgrade and for now, having seen where Google will be in the next 2 years (still behind even the SD 8 Gen 3), I can't see a Pixel in my pocket again for the foreseeable.
@@pspr33 I agree with your point the 8 elite will be a good investment now that OEM'S do give people at least 5+ years of support and yeah the G4 isn't a powerhouse by any means but you can't deny that the experience in Google phones are something that you rarely see. I have swapped phones for so many time and I used every chip manufacture "Samsung own "exynos" qualquomm mediateck and even krirn" and tbh the importance here isn't of how strong or advanced the chip looks like if you have less people in the process of making something it is going to be less broken in the process...
K20 Pro / Mi9T Pro user here, can confirm S855 with everyday tasks works quite well. I find Diablo Immortal a challenge, but the phone still runs the game on mid-to-low settings.
S855+ here, and I can confirm it still works like a charm. Recents CPU's are tempting, but if I can stretch the longetivity of the phone by another 1 to 3 years, it would be awesome! Although, my last security patch is from january 2022, this might force me to upgrade sooner than I want.
I love the 855/855+ it was that chip that I thought will be the perfect base chip that'll last at least 10 years before a upgrade is needed. It's for those who don't care for upgrading.
I am using Snapdragon 888 Plus At the old processor but it still holds whatever AI they are adding in a chip what's the use if the software is not available
Considering to trade in S24U for base s25 during preorder deals as i love compact size, tired of bulky phones and dont use spen. Is it worth trading it in?
Everything is fine but for God's sake make the Android phones smaller or at least bring back something like Zefone 10. I want to switch to Android now but those Chonky Phablets are the reason i am still waiting.
When QCOM can actually sell a dev kit for Snapdragon Elite, I will give them some respect. But rn, QCOM snapdragon Elite is a joke! CPU without software is a paper weight!!!
What do you mean? There's devices with the X Elite already being sold. The 8 Elite was literally just announced, therfore phones are just getting announced
Big deal for everyone other than the mobile phone consumers. Everyone knows that the current phone software and thermal limitations mean all mobile CPU underperform. 😁😁😁
@@zetsubou3704 red magic phones will run this year's the same they run last year and the year before. Really good. The only difference this processor will bring is hopefully more years of software updates.
who cares? Mobile does not need more performance, they need reduced power for same performance. Nobody cares if opening up their apps takes 0.02 seconds less time. They care if their phone lasts longer without without need to charge up (and use up another charge cycle on battery which is what causes battery degredation).
Didn't they get license terminated over thus acquisition? xD Also, yeah, I want my phone to be more expensive, I'm gonna do so much with this excess power, like... ummm... I don't play mobile games or emulators on my phone so... scroll Reddit faster? Endless possibilities indeed
even the lowest end smartphones now run every emulator and game flawlessly on mobile. The only need for advancement is achieving the same level performance for less power, making your phone last longer between charges which also greatly increases battery lifespan as you drastically reduce the number of charge cycles per year
Sounds great - but many reviewers say the Window's version of Oryon runs hot (again might be the thermal management the OEMs choose to use and the voltage management), something that Apple is only just getting over with the iPhone 16. As to the AI.... well it would be great if there were some more convincing use cases and decent (3rd party) software to take advantage of it. (now there are 2 comments!)
It will also overheat like the laptops (what can't even release in a fanless design like Macbook Air..), even if it's 3nm compared to the 4nm X Elite, the clock speed is higher like the X1E-84-100 variant.. (Geekerwan already tested the chip, and consuming almost 17W to reach the benchmarked 10000 multiscore meanwhile games only use 7-8W at max because of overheating..) So it's the same, looks good on benchmarks, but manufacturers will be disappointed because of the halved performance when they try to use it in a fanless design (what the laptop side with the same chip can't even provided at the end, because of the disappointing performance without cooler..)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Even in his video, if you could read a graph, you would see efficiency better than A18pro all the way till 12W. Obviously, this chip is designed to be sold to multiple OEMs and Qualcomm themselves won't limit the power usage from their end, hence it is benchmarked even for higher power consumptions.
People will say Qualcomm will just settle if they lose versus ARM, but that is a problem for Qualcomm, as the Snapdragon X has probably lost them a lot of money, and with low sales, adding more unit cost to the equation puts its viability in question as X86 still looks like it will rule. Even though this chip (SD8G4) uses less ARM IP, it is the fruit of the poisonous tree, so any gains by Oryon can be argued as benefits from unpaid ARM patents.
Snapdragon 8 Elite Android tablets are needed!
RedMagic Will Most Likely Do This
Just hoping they deliver a better desktop like experience, something with Linux Arm subsystem
Agree...
Galaxy tab 11 ultra with snap elite will be a game changer
@@flushed101they just released the nova we might be waiting a while
if Snapdragon supports Linux fully instead of Windows and make it for Productivity and Gaming they will definitely outperform x86
Trueeeeeee, community already make these snapdragon chip running gta5 on linux just fine but still they stick with windows, sadness :(
I'm on a pixel 6, so I've been tempted by every phone launched in the last year. Nothing has been able to quite push me over the edge yet.
Same for me. I've got the pixel 6 pro... was looking at pixel 9 pro xl they had some good deals here in the UK. But potentially Oneplus 13.... price dependant.
With the ARM lawsuit happening, I have a feeling this will get delayed and affect smartphones in 2025
Qualcomm doesn't have to comply with what ARM is saying. The lawsuit will decide and even if ARM wins that. it means QUALCOMM will pay them more money. that is the reason ARM is doing all this song and dance,. they want more money.
@quantumdot7393 Yeah, but you know how long these lawsuits can take? These things don't get resolved overnight. Look how long the Epic Games and Apple lawsuits went on
@@sydguitar99 until they do QUALCOMM can keep selling the SoCs. it is not like they need ARM for anything.
@quantumdot7393 When it comes to license breaching, it's not that simple. ARM wants their money, and depending on how it goes, courts can force QC to stop producing chips
@@sydguitar99 if they rule in favor of ARM. i don't see why they would do it before makin a decision. If QUALCOMM is right. then revoking the license is illegal
I have the 16 Pro Max and I can’t imagine using anything else. The 18 Pro chip is so powerful with amazing battery life. The only other phone I would even think of buying is the OnePlus 13 Pro because it packs more power and specs in America that would make it last years. Best investment after an iPhone and or pixel
There's no any OnePlus 13 Pro model !!! ( Pro ? 😅 )
😅
Currently using Snapdragon 8 gen 2. Inside a Samsung Galaxy S23 plus
I don't know the point of being faster and faster because the most we can get is emulation of pc games but at that point just buy a handheld console
You can edit, animate, model, render, run virtual machines and many more demanding/crazy stuff but yeah you're right a pc seems a way better fit for these tasks, but its nice knowing i can store all that power in my pocket and use it all in my hands
They should advertise these phones as heavy performance phones and not gaming phones because the greatest mobile games are over a decade old and can be played on the weakest phones from 2012.
@@yourfatboy5359trying playing genshin it codm on a 2012 phone and see how it runs😑
Well with the introduction of satellite communication on phones, chips will have to be pretty powerful. Messaging is one thing but calls and data will be another.
I want a pocket development machine for webdev and connect it to xreal glasses and bluetooth keyboard
@@superiortoall22is there any phone supports calls via sattlete
BIG.little gave me vietnam flashbacks
🚁🫡
Ride of the Valkyries
Existing smartphone chips are more than capable for the vast majority but nevertheless a big bump in performance is a factor in upgrade timing as it should just last that much further into the future. The battery on my S20 is starting to go and the improvements basically mean a 3X jump in single and multicore. I could see an S25 lasting me 7 years with one battery swap in the middle.
I agree but for things like current gen emulation not even the 8 gen 3 is powerful enough to get good fps in most games so in an emulation pov this is huge
Imagine having this chip on your phone, and you only
use it to browse through social media.
Which is what everyone will do
not me. I want heavy gaming and machine learning development + AI. I also want to have nice 3d modeling for MATLAB among other rendering applications.
plus, I also like the AI applications the samsung galaxy s25 ultra will have. i would love having a device always on the go that can operate like a pc.
I mean, that's cool and all, but the future of everything is so uncertain, God knows how it'll go
god doesnt exist, made up by the gov
Well, they still try to get back as many money as they can before the court even start the case/made the desicions. (They already spendt a few million on creating the chips and paying the engineers for at least 3 years before the Oryon core released, and the X Elite not even selling well.. they already started to discount the laptops after 3 weeks.. and they still paying for TH-camrs to promite their laptops.. alias the initial launch was a fail, even on the discounted price it still a fail, they still need to convience the users to "please buy our product" with the still runnig promotions.. so they hope that the phone side will bring back the money, because the laptop side wasn't really a success, and they already spent their money on it for at least 3 years)
I'm using a Snapdragon 865 chip.. good battery life, good performance, nothing too crazy
The Snapdragon Elite's Geekbench score is identical to that of Intel's newest Lunar Lake laptop.
I'm on an Honor 50, running the Snapdragon 778G 5G soc and it's still very silky smooth even after 3 years 👍
Im still using the Snapdragon 835 and it's still going strong 💪
So the snapdragon 9 names are reserved for tablets and ultralight laptop?
My Snapdragon 888 is still running strong. Throttling is about on par with todays chips, so overheating concerns from 2021 were never really an issue
Playing fortnite on that beast?
888 gang 💪🏻
Been using the S21FE with the 888 since released and yeah, it's still working very well 😅
I am still using the OG tensor and i really can't complain about the performance to be honest... Although the 8 elite do sound like a huge difference
Same.. but we've got to upgrade at some point, right? Will the SD 8 Elite last and feel as fast for as long as the OG Tensor? I'd say more than.
@@pspr33 I don't think so I mean you can't get the same seamless experience because QLQQM doesn't share everything with for example "Samsung" or "Xiaomi" unlike Google whom they have control over the HW and the android platform so even if the 8 elite is WAY stronger in RAW performance you won't get the 1to1 experience that we have now using the OG tensor
@@Kirito150 even with that, I still think a SD 8 Elite is not only leaps and bounds faster in raw performance but I think the longevity will be just as good, especially now that most OEMs are allowing people to have upgrades for 5+ years.
I used to swap my phone every year but I haven't since the Pixel 6 Pro. I think that is a testament to phones being so iterative these days. There's been nothing really new that has made me want a new phone. Unfortunately, my phone has developed a 'bleed' around the front camera (no idea how it happened) so it's only a matter of time before it needs a new screen.. but I probably won't replace the screen, I'll just upgrade and for now, having seen where Google will be in the next 2 years (still behind even the SD 8 Gen 3), I can't see a Pixel in my pocket again for the foreseeable.
@@pspr33 I agree with your point the 8 elite will be a good investment now that OEM'S do give people at least 5+ years of support and yeah the G4 isn't a powerhouse by any means but you can't deny that the experience in Google phones are something that you rarely see. I have swapped phones for so many time and I used every chip manufacture "Samsung own "exynos" qualquomm mediateck and even krirn" and tbh the importance here isn't of how strong or advanced the chip looks like if you have less people in the process of making something it is going to be less broken in the process...
I'm rocking the Kirin 658. A 2017 chip based on 16 nm technology.
It might be time for an upgrade
Same. (Typing this on Babbage’s Folly)
On kirin 810😢
I just saw a compartion in nanoreviw website and the new proccesor is better than yours 1400+% more , so it is up to you
I usually opt for a sub-$300 device, instead of flagship models. My 2023 Moto G 5G is rocking the Snapdragon 480+.
Lol rocking
I'll wait for the next ZTE red magic phone for this chip
12 MB of L2 cache in your pocket
My PC: Yes
my phone's got the Snapdragon 855 which is damn old, but still a champ for everyday tasks
K20 Pro / Mi9T Pro user here, can confirm S855 with everyday tasks works quite well. I find Diablo Immortal a challenge, but the phone still runs the game on mid-to-low settings.
S855+ here, and I can confirm it still works like a charm. Recents CPU's are tempting, but if I can stretch the longetivity of the phone by another 1 to 3 years, it would be awesome!
Although, my last security patch is from january 2022, this might force me to upgrade sooner than I want.
I love the 855/855+ it was that chip that I thought will be the perfect base chip that'll last at least 10 years before a upgrade is needed. It's for those who don't care for upgrading.
I'm still stuck with my helio G90T 😅
It's not a bad chip if you can cool it down
@@Kirito150ice cubes on phone, sticking fan on backside🐒
Mine is worst an exynos 1280 mid range chip it get so hot on my galaxy a53 when I am gaming.. the phone is great but get ruin by the worst chip
Still using Snapdragon 8+ gen 1 (Asus Zenfone 9) and the performance is still sufficient for another few more years
I am using Snapdragon 888 Plus
At the old processor but it still holds whatever AI they are adding in a chip what's the use if the software is not available
Stronger in multithreaded vs singlethreaded?
Considering to trade in S24U for base s25 during preorder deals as i love compact size, tired of bulky phones and dont use spen. Is it worth trading it in?
So if google don't go snapdragon with pixel next year mean they are doomed on arrive or have to get closer to this chip .
It might not be a deal at all soon
This chip main potential will be on those android tablets
damn i wish i can get s25 ultra before it got sued and terminated
I smell a new Pixel with iris AF tracking.
MY PHONE GOT SNAPDRAGON 665 WHICH IS A 6YR OLD CHIP AND IT STILL RUN EVERY GAME YOU THIW AT IT MAX GRAPHICS SMOOTHLY AND GREAT BATTERY LIFE
Bro I'm still using a Snapdragon 653. Try to find it
Oh bro really very powerful 💪
Why did they keep the 8 in the name? Should've called it Y Elite or Z
Why are all the upcoming phones that uses this chip has battery over 5000 mah, some even over 6000. Is this chip actually efficient?
yes
Everything is fine but for God's sake make the Android phones smaller or at least bring back something like Zefone 10. I want to switch to Android now but those Chonky Phablets are the reason i am still waiting.
Buy S23
Or Z flip
"let me explain" where have I heard that before? 🤔
Gary Explains 8)
Google pixel is finished
The core layout is literally a copy of mediateks chip
It's about time I ditch this 865
When QCOM can actually sell a dev kit for Snapdragon Elite, I will give them some respect. But rn, QCOM snapdragon Elite is a joke! CPU without software is a paper weight!!!
What do you mean? There's devices with the X Elite already being sold. The 8 Elite was literally just announced, therfore phones are just getting announced
Snapdragon 8 Elite & X Elite will conquer the whole world 🌎 💪 🔥
its the Tesla Phones. Goodluck! 😂
Reported for the lying advertisement
Big deal for everyone other than the mobile phone consumers. Everyone knows that the current phone software and thermal limitations mean all mobile CPU underperform. 😁😁😁
Meanwhile Redmagic phones : 🚀
@@zetsubou3704 red magic phones will run this year's the same they run last year and the year before. Really good. The only difference this processor will bring is hopefully more years of software updates.
who cares? Mobile does not need more performance, they need reduced power for same performance. Nobody cares if opening up their apps takes 0.02 seconds less time. They care if their phone lasts longer without without need to charge up (and use up another charge cycle on battery which is what causes battery degredation).
Android phones are getting cooling chambers
Asus rog phones 🙄
Awesome amazing snapdragon 8 elite , Amerika is the best in the world
WINLATOR MAX FPS LESGOO
It's not Snapdragon 8 4 Gen
Didn't they get license terminated over thus acquisition? xD Also, yeah, I want my phone to be more expensive, I'm gonna do so much with this excess power, like... ummm... I don't play mobile games or emulators on my phone so... scroll Reddit faster? Endless possibilities indeed
even the lowest end smartphones now run every emulator and game flawlessly on mobile. The only need for advancement is achieving the same level performance for less power, making your phone last longer between charges which also greatly increases battery lifespan as you drastically reduce the number of charge cycles per year
Sounds great - but many reviewers say the Window's version of Oryon runs hot (again might be the thermal management the OEMs choose to use and the voltage management), something that Apple is only just getting over with the iPhone 16. As to the AI.... well it would be great if there were some more convincing use cases and decent (3rd party) software to take advantage of it. (now there are 2 comments!)
windows oryon is 4nm, this is 3nm.
It will also overheat like the laptops (what can't even release in a fanless design like Macbook Air..), even if it's 3nm compared to the 4nm X Elite, the clock speed is higher like the X1E-84-100 variant.. (Geekerwan already tested the chip, and consuming almost 17W to reach the benchmarked 10000 multiscore meanwhile games only use 7-8W at max because of overheating..)
So it's the same, looks good on benchmarks, but manufacturers will be disappointed because of the halved performance when they try to use it in a fanless design (what the laptop side with the same chip can't even provided at the end, because of the disappointing performance without cooler..)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Even in his video, if you could read a graph, you would see efficiency better than A18pro all the way till 12W.
Obviously, this chip is designed to be sold to multiple OEMs and Qualcomm themselves won't limit the power usage from their end, hence it is benchmarked even for higher power consumptions.
S8e2, S8e3, S8e3s
Is the 8 Elite dead on arival because ARM is cancelling licence for Qualcomm?
Doubt it. Likely money will change hands and there’ll be some sort of agreement.
@@XDAVideosimple
Nah
People will say Qualcomm will just settle if they lose versus ARM, but that is a problem for Qualcomm, as the Snapdragon X has probably lost them a lot of money, and with low sales, adding more unit cost to the equation puts its viability in question as X86 still looks like it will rule.
Even though this chip (SD8G4) uses less ARM IP, it is the fruit of the poisonous tree, so any gains by Oryon can be argued as benefits from unpaid ARM patents.
Well, things are starting to be looking good 😀, #teamandroid #teamsamsung
Im.uding the battery saving sd 4 gen 1... my battery now lasts 2½ days... 2½x longer
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Ah, glorified ad 🙃
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