What gave it away? When Joe said that ultra-competitive athletes would chop their legs off and replace them with bionic ones if it gave them a competitive edge, and Adam was totally incredulous? (around 28:00) Joe is completely right btw, elite athletes do some crazy shit for any edge they can find.
Joe: Hey Adam, what do you want on your pizza? Adam: There are a variety of meats, vegetables and fruits you could put on a pizza, but I’m not an expert in this field. Joe: I could just get you plain cheese. Adam: Well I don’t have my research papers in front of me so I don’t want to speak out of turn. Joe: Pepperoni? Hawaiian? They’re just pizza toppings, Adam. Adam: I’d like to phone a trans friend.
I used to think Adam’s tv show was awesome. But then I started hearing them mix in false facts and common misconceptions into the show. The last straw for me was when they said on the show in season two that it was better for people to rent than to buy their own homes. Then I saw the show for was it really was, propaganda spreading lies.
Joe just mentioned in his podcast a day or 2 ago how he once had a really progressive guest who didnt really know anything about the topic. Immediately I knew he was talking about this gem right here
An extremely politically biased group backs up his entire platform. It would be complete suicide for him to come onto JRE and agree or concede with, even slightly, any these extremely loaded questions. Joe can voice his own opinions without being cancelled and shunned by his colleagues. Adam absolutely can't. They both used anecdotes after agreeing it's a bad way to argue.
Weird how Adam talks about that people are reluctant to change their minds because they get too deep into their ideals then refuses to look at evidence that changes his viewpoint.
Its such a weird irony of modern times-> all the people out there pretending to be "equal" when in reality, they've been brainwashed into believing there are only 2 sides to everything- a wrong side, and a right side- (democrat vs republican, rich vs poor, black vs white, cops vs minorities, men vs women... hmmm I wonder where they got brainwashed from) and guess what side these "eqaulists" (elitists/narcissists) think they are always on? And because they think they are smarter, they are too dumb to see the hypocricy of how reluctant they are to change ie admit flaws in their logic.
And he talks about trans-folk feeling safe in bathrooms but ignores the fact of that’s what we want for CHILDREN,you gotta ask yourself,what exactly makes them think their safety is more important than the children’s? I think it’s pretty damn obvious what they’re up to.
A lot of male to female transgenders competing in female athletics cause we all love to win. I’m curious to know though. Are there any female to male transgender athletes competing in male sports?
Why would Joe Rogan invite someone onto his show that's not an expert in the field they're going to discuss. I'm new to his podcast, is this normal? To invite random people to discuss topics they're not qualified to talk about, then have his stans mock the guest in the comment sections? Odd premise for a show.
@@EngMadison joe usually invites people he likes, finds interesting or is just curious about. also people come on to promote things, typically they just have a conversation so occasionally they enter a topic that one or neither of them are experts in. i doubt joe invites people onto his podcast so that his stans can mock them.
@@EngMadison yeah these podcasts last 1-4 hours this is only a little bit of what they talked about he just brings people on and they talk like the other guy said lots of times neither of them know alot about the topics they are talking about.
yeah this is how we homo sapiens communicated before genZ. I know i know, there were always fucked up exploding people out there. But you guys know nothing about real life anymore, when you really need to point it out in a comment. Sorry guys, you are lost
"BuT mY tRAnS FriEnD sAiD.." Literally kills me everytime I heard him say that. That's like saying "I have a black friend and he let's me say it" 🙄🙄 stupid
Yeah sometimes Joe is too agreeable with his audience but when it comes to sports and his guest aren't sports people then he will be less agreeable in a good way
Also if you listen closely this dude wants sports to no be about the best of the best but rather on the premise of equal outcome. Bloody hell these people want to ruin everything that involves meritocracy. Participation ribbon events will be the future of professional sports
It kills me he even tried to talk about this knowing he had no information to back it up. Like I’m opposed to Rogan on this issue but I’m not gonna come into an argument and make myself sound dumb when I’m not ready for it. He is just empowered those against him because he sounded like an idiot for 30 minutes
He consistently said that he didn't have all the info in front of him. He has ideas, but he's trying to be as honest as he can, without hurting people. The thing is, IF there was a big shift, and if there was a scientific consensus that he was wrong, HE would change the way he thought about things. He isn't looking at the situation from "This person that was a man for 30 years is now in female sports, is it fair?", he is looking at it from "If we accept that trans people are the gender they are performing, what changes in society need to happen for that to be universal?" If Adam looked into the biology of it all, he would get to the same point Joe is at. There is a HUGE advantage to M>F sports people. But the other side is, how do we fully accept trans people and what does that look like? You can say "biology", sure, but there is an amazing swimmer that's broken records and stuff, and he is able to do it because his body functions differently. Does he deserve to have the records, or should we take them away because he had a biological advantage? More importantly, how does that imply to trans people.
His whole argument is crazy. Because we cant guarantee a _perfectly_ level playing field there is essentially no point whatsoever to attempt to make things fair? This dude clearly _never_ played sports.
Yea, basically Conover didn't know how to reply to the basic question and wanted to buy time to come up with some bullshit answer. Oldest trick in the book haha.
DanO5O he was specifically watching his wording so he didn’t say anything misinformed, can you list a few examples of fake or alternative facts he made up
Q C “no, trust me” is the only way that statement makes any grammatical sense “know, trust me” doesn’t mean anything lol. Let’s replace know in that sentence with a synonym (a word of same or similar meaning) “comprehend, trust me” doesn’t make sense let’s try another in case the synonym i picked doesn’t work “realize, trust me” ye still doesn’t work don’t get me wrong I’m not big on grammar I don’t typically care as long as the message is clear enough to decipher but using know and no incorrectly does make it far harder to read. The statement as written is intended “no, trust me everyone knows”
@@Da5kone001 Looks like its time for someone to go back to school. "We know" is the correct form of know in this sentence. It means we have obtained the knowledge. "We no" makes absolutely no grammatical sense.
1:48 this is the dumbest take ever. The leg is also a spring. if he thinks people are only running using their calves he is completely wrong. In fact, the calves work as a spring. So which would you rather have - a high tech mechanical spring OR a low efficiency muscle that needs energy to work as a spring? The mechanical spring is a much higher efficiency spring than the calf, it is able to translate the power generated by your upper legs much better than your calf. ON TOP of that because it is not a muscle it will not require oxygen, so you theoretically would even tire out less.
Adam: "There is no such thing as a level playing field anyway so we just need to accept it." That was one of the arguments made AGAINST Title 9 in the 1960's. Adam is using anti-Civil Rights talking points from 50 years ago to try to win an argument. Go ahead and let that sink in.
shrimp dick nazi retards like urself need to pretend that ur not literally against every single major medical institution to justify ur dumbfuck inbred white trash bigotry.
For sure. And Adam constantly saying "well I think we can come to an agreement thats fair for sports" is 100% just "I think we just have to find an argument good enough(or that enough leftists will get behind) to stop women complaining about competing against trans people".
Joe is absolutely right. My best friend growing up was obviously gay. He didn’t know how to process that, and experimented with a lot of things that today would get him lumped in as a trans kid. Today he is a multi millionaire gay man. He’s very happy. I shudder to think about what they would have done to him by today’s standards of care. He wouldn’t be the man he is today.
We have regressed with how we treat homosexual youngsters, or even help kids sort themselves out. Instead of giving these kids time and space to work things out and reassure them, we rush to push them into boxes. This is part of our hyper sexualized society. There is money to be made and the faster we can put kids into sex boxes the more money we can make off of them. ENOUGH.
I believe dealing with adversity and adapting makes people stronger, it's part of human existence and development. The whole gender transition thing, especially for kids, just tries to get rid of that adversity instead of letting them learn how to deal with it (and maybe let their body and brain finish developing). I don't think it's a good idea. It's like if I wanted to be a bodybuilder but I'm skinny as fuck, and doctors said "oh well his body dysmorphia is affecting his mental health, let's give him steroids and growth hormone so he can get big, nevermind how it affects the rest of his health!" Instead of letting me face the reality that no matter how hard I work, I'm going to be limited to some extent by my body type and genetics.
This dude walked away from his time with Joe saying "I am an idiot". He bases his opinions on a friend with a "trans kid" but then tells Joe we shouldn't draw any conclusions from a single study when it doesn't align with his beliefs. Genius!
The irony is that there's no such thing as a "Trans kid". Kids can't consent to transition. Just as they can't consent to a lot of things, because they don't even know what it is. There's studies that says 80% of pre-pubescent children with gender dysmorphia grow out of it after puberty.
He loves to say everything Joe throws at him is anecdotal and an edge case but then MY FRIEND WITH A TRANS KID is his go to case study to base all his opinions on. That and a book he clearly hasn't read.
I honestly couldn't even make it past the 7 min mark. His argument isn't even consistent. He makes the point that Oscar was at a physical disadvantage against the other runners and we included him therefore in the spirit of inclusivity we should knowing include people who has a physical advantages that are in no way shape or form natural for the gender there competing against.
Adam is most likely in a social circle where he can confidently spew his nonsense and get zero pushback. It’s hilarious to watch him go into a topic with complete certainty and Joe merely questioning his thinking makes him scramble for anecdotal justifications.
See the video by Vaush that actually goes into why Joe is flat out wrong here. Vaush is really not nice to him in the vid, but it's not unwarranted. He reacts appropriately to every bad take and cringey bit of misinformation sharing Joe does.
Craig Trautman jr to clarify - which particular piece is the misinformation you’re referring to? Seems like Joe simply offered a counter point to Adam and Adam had nothing of substance to support his position or offer to the discussion
@@bluev7427 he's spreading the misinformation that puberty blockers for children are is child abuse, when these matters are carefully looked at be therapists before being administered at all, and they only DELAY puberty for a few years before that child decides what their gender is, so the blockers are removed and puberty resumes WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS. There is no long term harm to the body, the body development is only delayed for a few years. There are tons of research on this stuff.
Craig Trautman jr lmao you’re so wrong. It’s 100% child abuse. You wouldn’t let your child smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, or make any decisions for that matter but all of a sudden you’re going to let them choose their gender at 13? Then they change their mind and go through puberty and you legit think that there’s no side effects to that? You’re a fucking idiot 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you claim that someone who identifies as a girl is already a girl, then why are hormones or surgeries necessary to “correct” it? That doesn’t make any sense. You’re saying that this person is already what they claim to be. If that’s true, then nothing should need to be changed, right? Because according to your logic, they are already a girl, regardless of physical characteristics. But if you argue that hormones or surgeries are necessary to affirm this, you’re admitting that they weren’t actually a girl to begin with. You’re trying to change something through chemical or physical means that, according to your own logic, shouldn’t require any changes. This directly contradicts your original claim. Either someone already is what they say they are, or they’re not and need to become it. It gets even more absurd when you bring in external factors like clothing or makeup. If you argue that wearing women’s clothing or putting on makeup makes someone a girl, then you’re essentially saying that these external things define what it means to be a woman. But that’s nonsense. Nobody is born wearing women’s clothes or with makeup on. A girl is a girl, regardless of what she wears or how she presents herself. If clothing or makeup were what made someone a woman, our entire understanding of identity would be shallow and interchangeable. Your argument has a fundamental flaw: If identity is truly an internal, unchangeable fact, then why do you need external or chemical interventions to “prove” it? And if external things like clothing or hormones are required, then the claim that identity was clear and undeniable from the start is clearly false.
And then he pulls up a single small study in a different country with a different culture that contradicts the majority of the known science. Joe is an idiotic tool.
Why not? What if a therapist agrees that the only way that the child could live a quality life is through a transition? There’s a lot of suicidal kids who go through those issues don’t be so one sided In your thinking. Just because you’re uncomfortable with something it doesn’t make it wrong.
@@Kuzkoh if you can't comprehend y after watching this video I'm not going to explain it to you. People like you are a danger to the fabric of society. Stop f_cking up kids with this nonsense.
My 7-year-old said he wanted to be a football player so I started injecting him with steroids because hey, he's been wanting to be a football player for like a year now amirite.
Boxing Supraves yes he speaks extremely gay. Lol his laugh is also very irritatingly gay. I’m sure he has had gay experiences before 100% even if he doesn’t identify as a gay man. You can NOT convince me he hasn’t sucked a dick or two in his life
Rocha House Lol I definitely never had any gay experiences nor did I ever have any desire for it . 😂👌🏻 thank God I am straight and worship women. I am very grateful for this
I was running around as a 12 year old pretending i was a chimpanzee because i liked chimpanzees. Imagine what would have happened if a whole bunch of adults started enabling and supporting that behaviour. I would have had surgery to shorten my legs and received hair transplants and been transferred to a local zoo. If an adult want to get life altering surgery, more power to them, but you can't let children make those decisions.
Jonathan imma need you to stop thinking about the fake children being “groomed” by trans people and start thinking about the real children who have ended their own lives because of gender dysphoria and related depression and whatnot because a lot of those mental disorders are heavily reinforced by people like you
what the fuck this is a debate not madness his fine we all have opinions we can not do anything and there is people how think difrently how gievs a fuck shut up bro he is chill cause both are chill
Like Im all for trans rights when it comes to living their life without fear etc. But sports that are seperate by gender, should be categorized by BIOLOGICAL gender. If you can't see anything unfair with someone with all the physical traits of a male (strength etc) going to like a boxing match with a female, then you're just fucked in the head.
Adam later claimed that he wanted a “conversation” and Joe turned it into a “boxing match”. He also said that it was difficult to hold to his arguments bc Joe had the ability to pull up any “pseudoscience” he wanted to bolster his own points. As a scientist, I take claims of pseudoscience seriously. This dude thinks that any piece of evidence against his position is pseudoscience and that is such a dangerous way to think in this world 🤦♂️
"This dude thinks that any piece of evidence against his position is pseudoscience" No, but almost every single thing Joe brought up was pseudoscience. Ironically, you are a pseud.
Great comment, I didn’t know that detail about what Adam said later but I’m not surprised in the slightest. He couldn’t defend his position, looked like an idiot and got bitter about it. Also, Joe seemed less emotional than Adam by far, Adam came off “triggered” during this interview. Adam is super slippery because he doesn’t actually have any credible evidence and his points don’t even follow logic or common sense, so he’s nervous and floundering. What a dumbass
We have already done this social experiment with Lia Thomas. They went from ranking 65th on the men's team in the 500 yard freestyle to 1st in women's 500 yard freestyle. And ranking 554th in men's 200 yard freestyle to 5th in women's 200 yard freestyle. That in itself is unrefuted evidence on how drastic the advantage is for men transitioning to women and competing against biological females. No argument can be had in that.
Exactly!! After taking A YEAR off!!! When Leo's competitors were training 6 hours a day, morning and night year-round. Riley Gaines bought a Coldwater wetsuit so she could swim in the lake nearby for practice during COVID. Talk about sacrifice!!! If Riley had taken a full year off of training, her edge would be lost.
completely disregard years of training and even more training because estrogen lowers muscles mass. that is not unrefutable (not even a word, it's irrefutable) it's conditional at best and downright wrong at worst.
@@snipingsharks5568first off, irrefutable IS a word, so try being condescending while also being accurate lest you look like a dumbass. Secondly, if you think the facts that OP described do not provide irrefutable evidence that trans women will typically have an extreme advantage in women’s leagues, you’ve deluded yourself. Biology is a real thing, and you cannot overcome it. This shit has been done for decades, it’s just now catching some fire with the trans movement (which I fully support; you want me to call you something? I will call you that and accept you in any way you want, as long as it doesn’t include fucking over half the population of our planet. Allowing biological men to compete with biological women will always lead to biological men dominating that sport, period.)
Adam is more like less wise. He probably has some knowledge like everyone else but he doesn't recognize his lack of knowledge in other subjects and he keeps pushing his own thoughts and doesn't see the fault in them.
Jesse Bogdonoff - I don’t even think Joe sparked a debate. Joe just challenged his views which I think is healthy. To me it seems like Adam generally speaks to people who agree with him which will make his points for fluid, as soon as he is challenged, he falls apart. But to say someone questioning your views out of curiosity is blindsiding, then we may as well create echo chambers and stay in them.
Jesse Bogdonoff - Understandable but that is generally how most podcasts work, it’s a discussion and this definitely applies to Joes podcast. It’s not a 6 minute video where you do prior research, it’s a 2 hour podcast where you can discuss ideas which I think Adam is aware of how joes podcast works. He seems to be in a echo chamber and cannot proceed with his points when challenged once. Look at the video where they discuss the moon landing. Adam says he did research for a video debunking it but as soon as joe ask questions about it which he should, he falls apart quickly just like he did here.
He is opinionated. And his stance was weak. If he was smart he would of conceded. Cuz he clearly doesnt know he just has a stance and he cant even fuckin argue it.
@@tadejpogacharo3963 Bruh. He meant an aditional energy source. It's an example to refute Adam's logic about Oscar Pistorius' leg attachments which is physically false. A bike uses your energy in a more efficient manner than running, thats how you can go faster. The leg attachments may do the same thing essentially.
That whole interaction was dumb as shit. I don’t think Adam understands how to debate at all. Like he could have made some valid points about understanding identity but instead he hid around some “articles he read” and tried his hardest to ignore Joe’s question
We have all known a 7 year old child at one point. Think back to that child. That kid knows nothing. That child is doing 8×8 multiplication assignments in their math class. To give that child hormonal injections is extremely immoral. You wouldn't let that child decide anything for themselves. I feel as if the adult trans people who say that they knew then that they should have been trans then I believe they are thinking through the mind of their adult self. They aren't saying that with their 7 year old mind but rather thinking back to when they were a child and saying yeah that's how I thought then.
@@skunkrotten7925 I mean there is a time where many people in general, that have an identity that isn't generally accepted or well educated on, can recall their young self first feeling being different. The reason that I feel injections should not be done is not because of the fact they may change their mind but the fact that they may not even want to transition. Thats the reason the language has changed from transsexual to transgender because not every person with this feeling actually wants to change their body because of it. They may still feel comfortable in their body and just not feel comfortable dressing or acting a way that is generally looked at as "masculine" or "feminine" behavior.
@@TKinfinity01 the argument where he acted like his trans sources were the absolute authority of the matter while he acted like Joe's were not even human.
he seems to be aware of having to represent his friend on the show and also knowing that he wants to portray himself a certain way because it is a pseudo-intellectual/intellectual podcast at times. At-least he admits he doesn't know a lot lol
He's craving adoration from people he doesn't know.. It's the " I'm famous " need .. Much worse than just about anything else.. Most mental illness doesn't pay ..
@@butmay1893the problem is he’s trying to convince us using anecdotes and emotions vs joe who is using facts and science and actually has the ability to site his research. Adam during the entire conversation at best had “my friend wrote a book but I don’t remember what it said”
SCARY part is that people who think like Adam are the one who dictate their ideas as a norm in meanstream media, in the comic industry, in Holywood and animation. Unlike flat earthers and anti-vacciners, those SJW far leftists are actually in power and they will decide that it is normal to give a kid a sex change and that an OK sign is a fascist symbol
I don't agree with Adam but to attribute his success solely to his political opinion is just straight up wrong. He's a comedy writer whos worked his way up.
What kind of sick parent transitions their kid at SEVEN YEARS OLD. Should be in jail for even suggesting something like that. Absolutely disgusting and criminal
Agreed sir! The scary thing is that those people exist and there growing from these institutions putting this radical ideology into people's minds.. I believe alot of our colleges are to blame for a lot of this.. go be trans if you want who cares! But you must let a child become mature before making that jump.. it's so wild that we all have been children and we all know we had crazy thoughts.. shits sad
Swear. If my parents let me do whatever I want I would have had surgery to look like sonic at seven years old. Ur mind ain't straight n thinking of the future effects
Virtue signaling with your kids. You go from bottom of the victimhood pyramid to the top because you are the parent of a transgender child. Sick people really. We have to find a way to save the kids from these butchers
This isn’t “woke”. Woke should be not picking either side (left or right) and realizing that the bank cartels run everything. Not thinking men should play women sports.
I mean the show was producers telling him what to say, clearly wasn't his own thoughts and research as he clearly doesn't listen to info proving him wrong
100%!!! I’m totally open to debate & opposing ideas, but as a fan of Joe’s I’m embarrassed for him that he did not vet Adam better before having him on his show as he’s not the caliber of intellect we expect on here. It’s difficult to listen to an abject moron who can’t keep up on an adult level of conversation, but I love that Joe doesn’t let him off the intellectual hook!!🤦♂️🤦♂️❄️
19:06 i actually burst out laughing. Adam actually thinks that "lower gender dysphoria and improved sexual relationships" are more important than "higher risks of mortality, suicidal behavior and psychiatric morbidity" after so-called gender correction surgery
He's just going off the research he's seen. People are allowed to do that. If your disagree, you, also not being an expert, may also provide counter evidence. That's how a conversation is SUPPOSED to work.
@@Majere3 Joe Rogan is stating objective truths and his guest rebuts with opinions that are not informed . I don't know if that qualifies as a productive discussion.
You know how you can tell when someone has little grounded confidence in what they are saying? They make a declaration and end the sentence with "right", then hurry into their next sentence which makes it look like the person they are speaking with agrees with them. Its so common now, and its incredibly annoying and obvious to anyone with a triple digit IQ. It's really a bad habit because it becomes a common thing they do subconsciously. So When they actually have a real point, it makes them seem less credible.
When joe provided evidence and coherently explained how males possessed physiological advantages, hence why we have different divisions/competitions based on sex and Adam simple “Disagreed”. I just had to stop watching. Incoherent and illogical and the sad thing is he covered earlier the exact reason why he is doing it
You are incorrect. He was able to form opinions VERY easily, he just had zero facts to base them on. They are all based on his conversations with his friends and their feelings. Joe was amazing providing facts and this dipstick just shrugged his shoulders and said he disagrees.
"I'm not an expert" Then educate yourself. Not being an expert and declaring that it's "just your opinion" does not make it immune to criticism. In fact, it incites it.
Is Joe Rogan an expert? I mean I know he into UFC but is he an expert on the science of being trans? Adam has a point that maybe the way we have been doing sports could be different so it is inclusive to trans people.
Adam’ logic = emotional Joe’s logic = logical This is the perfect example of someone who feels strongly about a subject and knows nothing about it, yet tries to argue it based on their own beliefs and not science or data. That’s never a good idea. Having trans friends doesn’t make you en expert on the subject.
@@PaperRaines How was Joe aggressive? Joe would throw logical points at Adam and he would end up in a stutter loop cause he didnt have a sound answer. Adam on the subject of transgender athletes was only in his feelings and how he wants the world to be, not how it really is.
@@foyo5497 you and I watched the same video clip. If you didn't find Joe to be more aggressively assertive with his points towards his guest, then we're not going to agree on anything. I can't _make_ you see that
@@PaperRaines Aggressive means something like "behaving in an angry and violent way towards another person". Didnt see that at all from Joe. If challenging someone`s ideas means "aggressive" to you, then we arent going to agree as you said. Besides the two of them sometimes cutting each other off, it was for the most part respectable to me.
@@foyo5497 we're seeing degrees of magnitude differently in their demeanors and speaking tone and pace. What you see as respectable I saw as the host "bullying" his guest. I put that in quotes because I don't want to say Joe was being mean, I'm saying he ran Adam over because he knew he could. It was predator v pray
Joe is doing saintly work here. I kinda don't like Rogan. But his shows great. Lately he's been doing epic shit. Like, he figured out the perfect time to ride the wave of the narrative shift. I think it's a big deal. Twitter. Alex fucking Jones. This idiot. Joe's making it ok to crush their bad argument without being fucked by their system.
Dude, he was the kid who made everyone want to smoke him in dodgeball, after talking shit, and then got dodgeball banned. Then was happy when they had calisthenics day. FUCK ADAM!!!
As someone who was a child and loved being a tomboy, I am so glad I was never given the option to transition. I constantly pretended to be a boy, I played sports on boys teams, dressed like a boy, declared myself my father’s son…… now I’m a happy mother. I still prefer male company, playing video games and love watching MMA, hunting but I would never want to be a man. I was so sad when I was a kid I wasn’t a boy but as an adult am so grateful to be a woman. Please let kids find themselves instead of pumping them with drugs!!!
how would being given the option have done anything to you? would you have taken the option? Do you think that after going through all the doctors and psychologists that you'd still feel the need to transition? cause if the answer is yes then you might have some questions for yourself you need to answer. If the answer is no, then why do you give a shit? you're not trans, you weren't trans so the option wouldnt have changed anything about you
@@StarPichu12 if you asked me at age 4-13 years I would have said yes I’m a boy. That’s my problem with letting kids so young make that choice. I would have done anything to be a boy. Once I went through puberty and adjusted to being a human I stopped feeling that way. Turns out I’m just Bisexual. In high school I ran the GSA and helped other kids transitioning but they were 16-18 years old not 4-14years old.
He was so unprepared...it was hilarious. He's basically advocating torture of children for the sake for reinforcing the superiority of a particular ideology.
The weaselly attempt to patronize Joe by saying, “right?” after every wrong thing he says is telling. It is painfully obvious that no one has really challenged his opinions in person in quite some time. Denying reality (the reality that males and females are biologically different, and biological males tend to dominate in sports) confidently doesn’t stop that reality from being true. Adam is nothing without his staff of snappy writers and slick editors.
“Because how mechanics work” “A muscle creates energy from food, it gives you more than you put in” It was then that I stopped listening to this idiotic conversation
yea i was confused didnt he say the law of thermodynamics means you cant get more then you put in? then he contradicted himself with the muscle and food thing
You guys are confused. He’s saying a spring can never produce more energy then is initially put into it. But a muscle can both use the energy put into it by compression and add energy by expanding. A spring is a spring a muscle is a motor. He’s right, but it’s not the best argument.
Come on! I know you heard at least one of the 20 times he said "Once again, I'm not an expert"😂. It's the only thing he could say without 5 stuttering uhhhhhs😂😂😂. You gotta be better!
01:01 dude said "disabled runner who killed his gf" and started to laugh right after, what is wrong with that dude? What an angry little man that can't seem to stop saying "I" this is common in people like these even if you know basic psychology you know exactly what im talking about, these people are high in dark triad
I completely agree with Adam on the fact that he's not an expert
yet that doesn't stop him from 'ruining' things he has zero expertise with.
😂
Uhhhh and uhhh
Bruh I read this as he said it 😭
What makes someone an expert? He said he had friends who researched and produced literature about the subject. Are they experts?
There's a zero percent chance this guy played sports competitively.
Boxing Supraves this guy could NEVER play college sports no way
@@joys8634 I mean anything....rec league sports even...
What gave it away? When Joe said that ultra-competitive athletes would chop their legs off and replace them with bionic ones if it gave them a competitive edge, and Adam was totally incredulous? (around 28:00) Joe is completely right btw, elite athletes do some crazy shit for any edge they can find.
Dude...he was a D1 athlete in fencing! Ha, I'm just kidding but you believed me for a second.
he was an all star in watching his girl get railed
What we know about Adam:
1. He has lots of trans friends
2. He knows experts
3. He is not an expert on anything
Adam really does ruin everything…
And he has a friend with a trans kid but isn't sure about the age...but it's still in the age span he's talking about 🤡
He also knows quite a few trans folks.
Bet he knows more than you
At least hes admitting hes not an expert unlike most
Joe: Hey Adam, what do you want on your pizza?
Adam: There are a variety of meats, vegetables and fruits you could put on a pizza, but I’m not an expert in this field.
Joe: I could just get you plain cheese.
Adam: Well I don’t have my research papers in front of me so I don’t want to speak out of turn.
Joe: Pepperoni? Hawaiian? They’re just pizza toppings, Adam.
Adam: I’d like to phone a trans friend.
How are there no replies on this beautiful comment?
@@thomasstouthartI’m saying tho! This was sheer comedy gold!
I'm not an expert but there's a chance that Hitler may have been on to something. I'm not an expert though.
Rumour has it, he’s not an expert.
I used to think Adam’s tv show was awesome. But then I started hearing them mix in false facts and common misconceptions into the show. The last straw for me was when they said on the show in season two that it was better for people to rent than to buy their own homes. Then I saw the show for was it really was, propaganda spreading lies.
So is joe rogan going with that logic hahahah
And neither are you
Ninjakitas Except that’s exactly true lol at least where I live, buying a house would cost more than I’ll probably make in my lifetime
uh uh uh...
Joe just mentioned in his podcast a day or 2 ago how he once had a really progressive guest who didnt really know anything about the topic. Immediately I knew he was talking about this gem right here
@@SuperAdam2468 Adam is that you? Suspicious 🤨
Yep I saw that podcast and know exactly which moment you’re talking about I knew right away lmfaoooooooo
Lol
Well, he certainly doesn't need to be an expert on the subject in order to debate it on the world's most popular podcast, right?
He' saying he's not an expert but the research backs his takes up a lot more than Joe's
I am absolutely AMAZED at how well Joe is maintaining his composure during this convo, even tho he looks like his head is about to explode.
Ikr, You can feel his blood pressure rising as soon as he heard the dude talk about 7 year olds transitioning
Joe is laughing in his face. Adam is spewing garbage
tehsimo Adam is a numale
He doesn’t offer one single fresh or new idea to the table. Just rehashed and regurgitated champagne liberal rhetoric.
Joe with some logic lol
I love how Joe's facial redness fluctuates up and down throughout the whole podcast and you can visibly see him trying to regulate himself lol
It's funny how all these people say "I'm not an expert on the topic" yet they keep trying to tell others how it is..
Well they heard about it from experts, of which includes their friend or their friend's "trans" kid.
If I had a penny for every time Adam declared that he wasn’t an expert, we could hire an actual expert to tell him how wrong he is.
But he's always an expert when he is talking in support of these crazy ideas.
And if i had a penny for everytime he said uh like a moron i could've buy Microsoft
Or how often he has to "breakdown " the subject
Perfect!!!
@@shadyshrooms9141 *could’ve bought Microsoft moron 😂
Adam is a perfect example of someone that can talk a lot of words and really not say anything.
Yep a pro trans Ben Shapiro.
That fact that Adam is YET to euthanize himself is a SHAME for all human race.
An extremely politically biased group backs up his entire platform. It would be complete suicide for him to come onto JRE and agree or concede with, even slightly, any these extremely loaded questions. Joe can voice his own opinions without being cancelled and shunned by his colleagues. Adam absolutely can't. They both used anecdotes after agreeing it's a bad way to argue.
Surprised he he even tried to speak to a professional speaker…
Maybe thinking about the Stuff is better than focousing on the Speech . Cheers .
Weird how Adam talks about that people are reluctant to change their minds because they get too deep into their ideals then refuses to look at evidence that changes his viewpoint.
Haha I was thinking the same exact thing lol.
Its such a weird irony of modern times-> all the people out there pretending to be "equal" when in reality, they've been brainwashed into believing there are only 2 sides to everything- a wrong side, and a right side- (democrat vs republican, rich vs poor, black vs white, cops vs minorities, men vs women... hmmm I wonder where they got brainwashed from) and guess what side these "eqaulists" (elitists/narcissists) think they are always on? And because they think they are smarter, they are too dumb to see the hypocricy of how reluctant they are to change ie admit flaws in their logic.
Joe: "1+1 = 2"
Adam: "Well I'm not an expert. But I have lots of friends who say 1+1 = 5"
Was thinking about the 1x1=2 dude😂
And he talks about trans-folk feeling safe in bathrooms but ignores the fact of that’s what we want for CHILDREN,you gotta ask yourself,what exactly makes them think their safety is more important than the children’s? I think it’s pretty damn obvious what they’re up to.
Adam ruins his career by deciding to go on Joe Rogan!
facts
Who?
My thoughts uhhh uhhh I'm not an expert but I spoke to my friend about it and they agree. Career gone
A lot of male to female transgenders competing in female athletics cause we all love to win. I’m curious to know though. Are there any female to male transgender athletes competing in male sports?
I doubt there are many, if at all, female to male transgender folks in sports that dominate. Not like the reverse.
Every time Adam says “I’m not an expert”
And Joe follows with “right”
I can’t help but laugh
EVERY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahaaa
Why would Joe Rogan invite someone onto his show that's not an expert in the field they're going to discuss.
I'm new to his podcast, is this normal? To invite random people to discuss topics they're not qualified to talk about, then have his stans mock the guest in the comment sections? Odd premise for a show.
@@EngMadison joe usually invites people he likes, finds interesting or is just curious about. also people come on to promote things, typically they just have a conversation so occasionally they enter a topic that one or neither of them are experts in. i doubt joe invites people onto his podcast so that his stans can mock them.
@@EngMadison yeah these podcasts last 1-4 hours this is only a little bit of what they talked about he just brings people on and they talk like the other guy said lots of times neither of them know alot about the topics they are talking about.
It’s the perfect side step for someone who wants to spout unscientific bullshit
JRE = Joe Ruins Everything.... for Adam
LOL underrated comment
lmao he's trying so hard not to break his ridiculous viewpoints
Nicely done sir
Well played lol
This comment should be pinned
Joe’s conversation management in this podcast was brilliant
I agree. I couldn't have been so patient with this illogical moron.
His patience was more than I could ever withstand.
Well he's right about one thing... he's not an expert.
I love how calm JR is when he is strongly disagreeing
My name is Adam and I’m a fool.🙃🥱🤪
it's been his job for ages and mma probably has a lot to do w it too
yeah this is how we homo sapiens communicated before genZ.
I know i know, there were always fucked up exploding people out there. But you guys know nothing about real life anymore, when you really need to point it out in a comment. Sorry guys, you are lost
thats the drugs talking
Truly a skill
Don't argue with Joe about athletics or weed.
Cardboard wise words
or dmt
or quake
Cory Pearce Shut yo bitch ass up.
Or Michael Jackson is castrated
I’m so thankful this mindset won’t be tolerated under the upcoming adminstration
YES ABSOLUTELY ! ME TOO! This was my nightmare concern if Harris won!
This guy has really strong opinions for something he knows little about.
Your so right he knows nothing yet has an opinion about it, how
BuT he HaS TranS FriEnDsss
"BuT mY tRAnS FriEnD sAiD.."
Literally kills me everytime I heard him say that. That's like saying "I have a black friend and he let's me say it" 🙄🙄 stupid
Ima High Orangutan I bet all his trans friends that watched this were like “motherfucker”
i'M nOt aN eXpERt bUt....
I dislike this dude.. but I do like how Joe pushed back and made him show us how crazy this guy is..
Yeah sometimes Joe is too agreeable with his audience but when it comes to sports and his guest aren't sports people then he will be less agreeable in a good way
Also if you listen closely this dude wants sports to no be about the best of the best but rather on the premise of equal outcome.
Bloody hell these people want to ruin everything that involves meritocracy. Participation ribbon events will be the future of professional sports
@@idkmynametho8391 you think this clip was about Joe and his guest having a disagreement about sports? Wtf lol
This guy is definitely an crazy asshole who speaks on shit he doesn’t know anything about
It kills me he even tried to talk about this knowing he had no information to back it up. Like I’m opposed to Rogan on this issue but I’m not gonna come into an argument and make myself sound dumb when I’m not ready for it. He is just empowered those against him because he sounded like an idiot for 30 minutes
This guy is the best example I've ever seen of how living in an echo chamber completely distorts your reality.
for sure!
I wonder how many of his friends ridiculed him for not walking off the show.
He consistently said that he didn't have all the info in front of him. He has ideas, but he's trying to be as honest as he can, without hurting people. The thing is, IF there was a big shift, and if there was a scientific consensus that he was wrong, HE would change the way he thought about things. He isn't looking at the situation from "This person that was a man for 30 years is now in female sports, is it fair?", he is looking at it from "If we accept that trans people are the gender they are performing, what changes in society need to happen for that to be universal?"
If Adam looked into the biology of it all, he would get to the same point Joe is at. There is a HUGE advantage to M>F sports people. But the other side is, how do we fully accept trans people and what does that look like?
You can say "biology", sure, but there is an amazing swimmer that's broken records and stuff, and he is able to do it because his body functions differently. Does he deserve to have the records, or should we take them away because he had a biological advantage? More importantly, how does that imply to trans people.
@@aliince9372 Gandalf
@@mad1337nes What?
Adam “Uh um uh um” Conover. The amount of mental gymnastics this guy has to do in a simple conversation with Joe is amazing lol
His whole argument is crazy. Because we cant guarantee a _perfectly_ level playing field there is essentially no point whatsoever to attempt to make things fair? This dude clearly _never_ played sports.
Adam “I disagree with that” Conover
Adam “I don’t have the research” Conover
Adam “I have trans friends” Conover
Adam “uhhhehhhmmm” Conover
Adam “I'm not an expert” Conover
Joe doesn't know shit either -- he just doesn't bother to say so.
Accurate
Bobby Lockhart No, Joe says he doesn’t know shit all the time.
@@leonmuller8475 Then why argue with a guy who clearly knows more than him?
"I'm sorry, can you expand on the question?"....Joe: "It's a simple question." (I died)
He totally gave Joe the deer in the headlights stare lol what a tool box
he could have just said "no" if he didn't know anymore
timestamp please
Yea, basically Conover didn't know how to reply to the basic question and wanted to buy time to come up with some bullshit answer. Oldest trick in the book haha.
@@ubelmenschat 11:38 for anyone just seeing this
Holy cringe. This guy is absolutely insufferable. "Im not an expert" WEEEEE knoooooooow, trust me, everyone knows.
Matthew Kozar “no” not know
Yeah, VERY hard to take. I Knooooowwww a looooot of trans people..... Just making things up, and knows nothing substantive about the topic.
DanO5O he was specifically watching his wording so he didn’t say anything misinformed, can you list a few examples of fake or alternative facts he made up
Q C “no, trust me” is the only way that statement makes any grammatical sense “know, trust me” doesn’t mean anything lol. Let’s replace know in that sentence with a synonym (a word of same or similar meaning) “comprehend, trust me” doesn’t make sense let’s try another in case the synonym i picked doesn’t work “realize, trust me” ye still doesn’t work don’t get me wrong I’m not big on grammar I don’t typically care as long as the message is clear enough to decipher but using know and no incorrectly does make it far harder to read. The statement as written is intended “no, trust me everyone knows”
@@Da5kone001 Looks like its time for someone to go back to school. "We know" is the correct form of know in this sentence. It means we have obtained the knowledge. "We no" makes absolutely no grammatical sense.
Hopefully in 30 years most of this insanity is just a shameful memory.
God willing
It will be, times are already changing. Compared to 2019 we the whole LGBTQ movement is a lot less popular.
This isn’t worth a 37 minutes discussion. The answer is clear cut. It’s not okay.
Agreed.
Yes. Not sure wether to give thumbs down for other guys argument, or thumbs up for Joe's argument
damn well Im convinced
Rickson Lmao
It’s lunacy
MrCorgiTalks good discussion
Adam's favorite quotes: "uhhh uhhh uhhh" "im not an expert on the subject"
Right? Right? Righttttt?
Or “listen, I know trans people”
He's certainly an expert in talking out of his ass.
But let me spiel out some shit I haven't researched and make it seem like I'm an expert on it
I don't have the research in front of me
Adam "science matters only when it fits my ideals" conover.
1:48 this is the dumbest take ever. The leg is also a spring. if he thinks people are only running using their calves he is completely wrong. In fact, the calves work as a spring.
So which would you rather have - a high tech mechanical spring OR a low efficiency muscle that needs energy to work as a spring?
The mechanical spring is a much higher efficiency spring than the calf, it is able to translate the power generated by your upper legs much better than your calf. ON TOP of that because it is not a muscle it will not require oxygen, so you theoretically would even tire out less.
Thank you. I was screaming at my phone because this was such a stupid take from Adam and Joe let it slide.
Bless Joe’s heart for sitting through this calmly and without bursting out into laughter
That's the southern hitter for "how the fuck did joe Rogan sit through this bullshit?"
I fucking love that term. I'm gonna use it more often
Haha
Joe: the evidence is that men competing against women is unfair.
Adam: there's no such thing as perfect fairness and I have trans friends.
😂 😂
Joe: The facts are...
Adam: I disagree.
That sums up this whole video
“Also I’m not an expert”
Mani Cs you forgot “uhhh...”
Adam: "There is no such thing as a level playing field anyway so we just need to accept it." That was one of the arguments made AGAINST Title 9 in the 1960's. Adam is using anti-Civil Rights talking points from 50 years ago to try to win an argument. Go ahead and let that sink in.
This is one of the best examples of Joe trying to come to a logical conclusion with someone whose opinions are 100% based on other opinions.
shrimp dick nazi retards like urself need to pretend that ur not literally against every single major medical institution to justify ur dumbfuck inbred white trash bigotry.
Emotionally driven, too.
Such an accurate comment holy shit
For sure. And Adam constantly saying "well I think we can come to an agreement thats fair for sports" is 100% just "I think we just have to find an argument good enough(or that enough leftists will get behind) to stop women complaining about competing against trans people".
These the type of people that say I have black friends to black people...
Joe is absolutely right. My best friend growing up was obviously gay. He didn’t know how to process that, and experimented with a lot of things that today would get him lumped in as a trans kid. Today he is a multi millionaire gay man. He’s very happy. I shudder to think about what they would have done to him by today’s standards of care. He wouldn’t be the man he is today.
We have regressed with how we treat homosexual youngsters, or even help kids sort themselves out. Instead of giving these kids time and space to work things out and reassure them, we rush to push them into boxes. This is part of our hyper sexualized society. There is money to be made and the faster we can put kids into sex boxes the more money we can make off of them. ENOUGH.
Dude was being groomed as a child. His success was probably given to him by his abusere.
I believe dealing with adversity and adapting makes people stronger, it's part of human existence and development.
The whole gender transition thing, especially for kids, just tries to get rid of that adversity instead of letting them learn how to deal with it (and maybe let their body and brain finish developing). I don't think it's a good idea.
It's like if I wanted to be a bodybuilder but I'm skinny as fuck, and doctors said "oh well his body dysmorphia is affecting his mental health, let's give him steroids and growth hormone so he can get big, nevermind how it affects the rest of his health!" Instead of letting me face the reality that no matter how hard I work, I'm going to be limited to some extent by my body type and genetics.
This dude walked away from his time with Joe saying "I am an idiot". He bases his opinions on a friend with a "trans kid" but then tells Joe we shouldn't draw any conclusions from a single study when it doesn't align with his beliefs. Genius!
The irony is that there's no such thing as a "Trans kid". Kids can't consent to transition. Just as they can't consent to a lot of things, because they don't even know what it is. There's studies that says 80% of pre-pubescent children with gender dysmorphia grow out of it after puberty.
No he probably didn’t he most likely lied to himself and convinced himself he was right
He loves to say everything Joe throws at him is anecdotal and an edge case but then MY FRIEND WITH A TRANS KID is his go to case study to base all his opinions on. That and a book he clearly hasn't read.
And he loved saying "im not an expert at this but.." 😂
He's just like every other leftist
Adam:The dude with prosthetics didn't have an advantage
Joe: but he did
Adam: ummm
I honestly couldn't even make it past the 7 min mark. His argument isn't even consistent. He makes the point that Oscar was at a physical disadvantage against the other runners and we included him therefore in the spirit of inclusivity we should knowing include people who has a physical advantages that are in no way shape or form natural for the gender there competing against.
Adam is most likely in a social circle where he can confidently spew his nonsense and get zero pushback. It’s hilarious to watch him go into a topic with complete certainty and Joe merely questioning his thinking makes him scramble for anecdotal justifications.
Seem Legit bingo!
See the video by Vaush that actually goes into why Joe is flat out wrong here. Vaush is really not nice to him in the vid, but it's not unwarranted. He reacts appropriately to every bad take and cringey bit of misinformation sharing Joe does.
Craig Trautman jr to clarify - which particular piece is the misinformation you’re referring to? Seems like Joe simply offered a counter point to Adam and Adam had nothing of substance to support his position or offer to the discussion
@@bluev7427 he's spreading the misinformation that puberty blockers for children are is child abuse, when these matters are carefully looked at be therapists before being administered at all, and they only DELAY puberty for a few years before that child decides what their gender is, so the blockers are removed and puberty resumes WITHOUT ANY SIDE EFFECTS. There is no long term harm to the body, the body development is only delayed for a few years. There are tons of research on this stuff.
Craig Trautman jr lmao you’re so wrong. It’s 100% child abuse. You wouldn’t let your child smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, or make any decisions for that matter but all of a sudden you’re going to let them choose their gender at 13? Then they change their mind and go through puberty and you legit think that there’s no side effects to that? You’re a fucking idiot 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you claim that someone who identifies as a girl is already a girl, then why are hormones or surgeries necessary to “correct” it? That doesn’t make any sense. You’re saying that this person is already what they claim to be. If that’s true, then nothing should need to be changed, right? Because according to your logic, they are already a girl, regardless of physical characteristics.
But if you argue that hormones or surgeries are necessary to affirm this, you’re admitting that they weren’t actually a girl to begin with. You’re trying to change something through chemical or physical means that, according to your own logic, shouldn’t require any changes. This directly contradicts your original claim. Either someone already is what they say they are, or they’re not and need to become it.
It gets even more absurd when you bring in external factors like clothing or makeup. If you argue that wearing women’s clothing or putting on makeup makes someone a girl, then you’re essentially saying that these external things define what it means to be a woman. But that’s nonsense. Nobody is born wearing women’s clothes or with makeup on. A girl is a girl, regardless of what she wears or how she presents herself. If clothing or makeup were what made someone a woman, our entire understanding of identity would be shallow and interchangeable.
Your argument has a fundamental flaw: If identity is truly an internal, unchangeable fact, then why do you need external or chemical interventions to “prove” it? And if external things like clothing or hormones are required, then the claim that identity was clear and undeniable from the start is clearly false.
Adam “well I don’t have the research in front of me…” Joe “Jamie pull that up….” 😂😂😂
Right! Guy acts like he didn’t know he was going to be interviewed on this subject 😂
Adam: *sweats* uhhh ummm uh umm
Lmaooo
Talking about if he was on his show he'd have the right information🙄
And then he pulls up a single small study in a different country with a different culture that contradicts the majority of the known science. Joe is an idiotic tool.
He is not used to talking people who questions his "research"
Exactly.
But he's not an expert on the subject so looooooooool, why is Joe talking to this guy??????
@@jamarr27 to prove alpha males and beta males exist
@@jasonmillsom2981 this whole thing makes perfect sense now, I thought it was a video about trans-athletes
Yeah you can tell
Joe was killing it this interview. You don't transition kids!
Pl
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Why not? What if a therapist agrees that the only way that the child could live a quality life is through a transition? There’s a lot of suicidal kids who go through those issues don’t be so one sided In your thinking. Just because you’re uncomfortable with something it doesn’t make it wrong.
@@Kuzkoh if you can't comprehend y after watching this video I'm not going to explain it to you. People like you are a danger to the fabric of society. Stop f_cking up kids with this nonsense.
@Randall Stevens but therapist has a PhD. We should listen to him cause we are just dumb folk.
Who’s here after the more plates more dates JRE episode?
😂😂😂Yep
My 7-year-old said he wanted to be a football player so I started injecting him with steroids because hey, he's been wanting to be a football player for like a year now amirite.
Congrats. That's a sporting world that Adam is more interested in.
My child wants to be an elephant. What do you recommend?
@@cantona222 Have you seen the movie "Tusk?" I think you need to do something similar. You child will thank you later in life.
That a boy! Dishing out concussion in flag football... does his neck look like a mini brock lesner?
I wanted to be a bird... and now I can’t feel my legs.
Joe: hits him Adam with some logic
Adam: uhh....uhhhhhh.... im not an expert on the subject...but...(insert random bs)
You didn’t take into account he ‘knows transgenders’ so he’s obviously an expert.
Exactly wtf
Then Joe hits him with some statistics from experts. Adam says well I wouldn’t believe one study
Lmao
I wish I had 1% of the patience Joe has dealing with this garbage.
Boxing Supraves he speaks like a hipster white girl
Boxing Supraves yes he speaks extremely gay. Lol his laugh is also very irritatingly gay. I’m sure he has had gay experiences before 100% even if he doesn’t identify as a gay man. You can NOT convince me he hasn’t sucked a dick or two in his life
@@Ukbilo You sure you haven't had any gay experiences? Lmao you went all in that story
Rocha House Lol I definitely never had any gay experiences nor did I ever have any desire for it . 😂👌🏻 thank God I am straight and worship women. I am very grateful for this
@@Ukbilo Oh, cool. But god doesn't exist. He's made up to mind control flunkies.
I was running around as a 12 year old pretending i was a chimpanzee because i liked chimpanzees. Imagine what would have happened if a whole bunch of adults started enabling and supporting that behaviour. I would have had surgery to shorten my legs and received hair transplants and been transferred to a local zoo. If an adult want to get life altering surgery, more power to them, but you can't let children make those decisions.
So much respect for Joe being patient during this whole nonsensical, pure madness
Adam has a perfect punchable face. Like I'd really have him airborne for a split second with an uppercut
Jonathan imma need you to stop thinking about the fake children being “groomed” by trans people and start thinking about the real children who have ended their own lives because of gender dysphoria and related depression and whatnot because a lot of those mental disorders are heavily reinforced by people like you
He must have gotten real stoned for this one. Idk how else you could engage with this psycho babble otherwise
what the fuck this is a debate not madness his fine we all have opinions we can not do anything and there is people how think difrently how gievs a fuck shut up bro he is chill cause both are chill
bro you do not even know him and they both agreed@@MrEvanNoyes
Im a left leaning person, but people like this sicken me to death
People like this and the other ones raising hell about dumb shit has to make it shameful to be publicly left
They make the rest of you look silly to centerists and pushes them farther to the right.
Like Im all for trans rights when it comes to living their life without fear etc. But sports that are seperate by gender, should be categorized by BIOLOGICAL gender. If you can't see anything unfair with someone with all the physical traits of a male (strength etc) going to like a boxing match with a female, then you're just fucked in the head.
I find it very interesting how different our conception of the "left" is in North America in contrast to the rest of the world.
Same
Welcome back to another clip of Adam ruins everything. On this episode: Himself
🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahahahahaha
OOHH!
Oof
A joke years in the making lol
Adam later claimed that he wanted a “conversation” and Joe turned it into a “boxing match”. He also said that it was difficult to hold to his arguments bc Joe had the ability to pull up any “pseudoscience” he wanted to bolster his own points. As a scientist, I take claims of pseudoscience seriously. This dude thinks that any piece of evidence against his position is pseudoscience and that is such a dangerous way to think in this world 🤦♂️
"This dude thinks that any piece of evidence against his position is pseudoscience"
No, but almost every single thing Joe brought up was pseudoscience. Ironically, you are a pseud.
Great comment, I didn’t know that detail about what Adam said later but I’m not surprised in the slightest. He couldn’t defend his position, looked like an idiot and got bitter about it. Also, Joe seemed less emotional than Adam by far, Adam came off “triggered” during this interview. Adam is super slippery because he doesn’t actually have any credible evidence and his points don’t even follow logic or common sense, so he’s nervous and floundering. What a dumbass
And Adam referenced book that he couldn't even name first and couldn't tell the relevant data from memory either
You’d be surprised how much “research” you can pull up on Google that’s bullshit.
I don’t think it’s fair to say “because I googled it I’m right”
Well said.
funny how you never see any female-to-male trans dominating in men’s sports.
Hmmmm
and we never will
Icoming feminists and angry trans
Riiiiight!
Possibly in gymnastics... maybe
Joe's self control not to laugh at this man is phenomenal.
You know the minute Adam left he started cracking up.
For real
We have already done this social experiment with Lia Thomas.
They went from ranking 65th on the men's team in the 500 yard freestyle to 1st in women's 500 yard freestyle. And ranking 554th in men's 200 yard freestyle to 5th in women's 200 yard freestyle.
That in itself is unrefuted evidence on how drastic the advantage is for men transitioning to women and competing against biological females. No argument can be had in that.
Exactly!! After taking A YEAR off!!! When Leo's competitors were training 6 hours a day, morning and night year-round. Riley Gaines bought a Coldwater wetsuit so she could swim in the lake nearby for practice during COVID. Talk about sacrifice!!!
If Riley had taken a full year off of training, her edge would be lost.
completely disregard years of training and even more training because estrogen lowers muscles mass. that is not unrefutable (not even a word, it's irrefutable) it's conditional at best and downright wrong at worst.
I really wish people would start discussing trans men in sports and how none of them are dominating the NHL, or NFL, or ANY men's division
*William Thomas
@@snipingsharks5568first off, irrefutable IS a word, so try being condescending while also being accurate lest you look like a dumbass. Secondly, if you think the facts that OP described do not provide irrefutable evidence that trans women will typically have an extreme advantage in women’s leagues, you’ve deluded yourself. Biology is a real thing, and you cannot overcome it. This shit has been done for decades, it’s just now catching some fire with the trans movement (which I fully support; you want me to call you something? I will call you that and accept you in any way you want, as long as it doesn’t include fucking over half the population of our planet. Allowing biological men to compete with biological women will always lead to biological men dominating that sport, period.)
This is why speech is so important. Sometimes you just have to let someone speak and you learn everything about their arguments.
Yeahhh absolutely.
Adam was given a chance to voice his opinion, but he failed to convince us that we should mutilate children
Adam is a textbook example of a guy who thinks he’s smart but is quickly exposed when speaking to someone who is actually kinda smart
Adam is more like less wise. He probably has some knowledge like everyone else but he doesn't recognize his lack of knowledge in other subjects and he keeps pushing his own thoughts and doesn't see the fault in them.
Jesse Bogdonoff - I don’t even think Joe sparked a debate. Joe just challenged his views which I think is healthy. To me it seems like Adam generally speaks to people who agree with him which will make his points for fluid, as soon as he is challenged, he falls apart. But to say someone questioning your views out of curiosity is blindsiding, then we may as well create echo chambers and stay in them.
He's quite smart, but didn't do enough research on this particular subject and was clearly unable to debate and give a sensible opposition.
Jesse Bogdonoff - Understandable but that is generally how most podcasts work, it’s a discussion and this definitely applies to Joes podcast. It’s not a 6 minute video where you do prior research, it’s a 2 hour podcast where you can discuss ideas which I think Adam is aware of how joes podcast works. He seems to be in a echo chamber and cannot proceed with his points when challenged once. Look at the video where they discuss the moon landing. Adam says he did research for a video debunking it but as soon as joe ask questions about it which he should, he falls apart quickly just like he did here.
He is opinionated. And his stance was weak. If he was smart he would of conceded. Cuz he clearly doesnt know he just has a stance and he cant even fuckin argue it.
by this guy's logic, "running" on a bicycle wouldn't be an advantage because it doesn't have an energy source
That's brilliant.
You have an energy source on a bicycle because you are using your muscles, your argument is invalid
@@tadejpogacharo3963 Kap
@@tadejpogacharo3963 Bruh. He meant an aditional energy source. It's an example to refute Adam's logic about Oscar Pistorius' leg attachments which is physically false. A bike uses your energy in a more efficient manner than running, thats how you can go faster. The leg attachments may do the same thing essentially.
Adam doesn't understand basic spring physics. By Adam's logic, you can't jump higher on a trampoline or a pogo stick, because it's just a spring.
Quick! Someone hand Adam a professionally written script, he's tanking!!
😂
I’ve seen Adam live and even with a script, he tanks. Literally forgot his line and had to awkwardly pause for like 10 agonizing seconds. Lol
@@TheMoheban I'm sorry you had to see Adam live
🤣🤣🤣
It's amazing how dumb he sounds when he doesn't have someone telling him what to think.
Jeff Goldblum when he’s in an “Uh” competition and his opponent is Adam Conover:
If a child transitioned at 7 his parents should be in jail
That whole interaction was dumb as shit. I don’t think Adam understands how to debate at all. Like he could have made some valid points about understanding identity but instead he hid around some “articles he read” and tried his hardest to ignore Joe’s question
They should murdered for that
We have all known a 7 year old child at one point. Think back to that child. That kid knows nothing. That child is doing 8×8 multiplication assignments in their math class. To give that child hormonal injections is extremely immoral. You wouldn't let that child decide anything for themselves. I feel as if the adult trans people who say that they knew then that they should have been trans then I believe they are thinking through the mind of their adult self. They aren't saying that with their 7 year old mind but rather thinking back to when they were a child and saying yeah that's how I thought then.
@@skunkrotten7925 I mean there is a time where many people in general, that have an identity that isn't generally accepted or well educated on, can recall their young self first feeling being different. The reason that I feel injections should not be done is not because of the fact they may change their mind but the fact that they may not even want to transition. Thats the reason the language has changed from transsexual to transgender because not every person with this feeling actually wants to change their body because of it. They may still feel comfortable in their body and just not feel comfortable dressing or acting a way that is generally looked at as "masculine" or "feminine" behavior.
@@kacchank8696 i love. U no homo
Watching him absolutely melt when his ideas are questioned is just sooo funny
Mr MacGuffin
But remember “he’s not an expert”, yet he presents arguments like he is.
@@TKinfinity01 the argument where he acted like his trans sources were the absolute authority of the matter while he acted like Joe's were not even human.
@@mrmacguff1n
Lol, that as well.
@@TKinfinity01 he said they were anecdotes
Was trying to remember that word for so long, gave up, and it came right back out of nowhere
"uuh, uuhm, uuh, I'm not an expert on this...uuhm my trans friends..."
This guy is the SJW equivalent of the classic "but I have black friends"
I don't really hate those "I have Black friends" people that much but this guy seems like a soyboy cornball
1: "EEEHM"
2: I have a lot of trans friends
3: "EEEH"
4: I'm not an expert
5: "AAAAAAAHHHHHM"
I just gave you 50% if the dialogue
right?
you forgot the word ‘right?’ at literally the end of every single thing he says
You know
You know
You know
Adam is what happens when people confuse confidence with intelligence.
he seems to be aware of having to represent his friend on the show and also knowing that he wants to portray himself a certain way because it is a pseudo-intellectual/intellectual podcast at times. At-least he admits he doesn't know a lot lol
Also confuse confidence with education
literally joe rogan
He's craving adoration from people he doesn't know.. It's the " I'm famous " need .. Much worse than just about anything else.. Most mental illness doesn't pay ..
@@butmay1893the problem is he’s trying to convince us using anecdotes and emotions vs joe who is using facts and science and actually has the ability to site his research. Adam during the entire conversation at best had “my friend wrote a book but I don’t remember what it said”
this guy is living in a false reality and the scary part is that there are hundred of thousands others that think the same
his partner is feminist, are you suprised?
His show is soooo cherry picking a narrative and he's basically a woman with no spine and a little dick
SCARY part is that people who think like Adam are the one who dictate their ideas as a norm in meanstream media, in the comic industry, in Holywood and animation. Unlike flat earthers and anti-vacciners, those SJW far leftists are actually in power and they will decide that it is normal to give a kid a sex change and that an OK sign is a fascist symbol
This guy has cuckold written all over his face
lol not thousands.
Millions.
This guy is proof you can make it anywhere in Hollywood, as long as you have the correct political beliefs
Yeah, Even if you are a complete idiot...🙄
I don't agree with Adam but to attribute his success solely to his political opinion is just straight up wrong. He's a comedy writer whos worked his way up.
@@22228542 Ok, but if he says something that's not political correct, people will cancel him.
@@22228542Have yet to hear him say anything remotely funny!
Correction,as long as you pander to the sensitive women..
I wouldn’t trust Adam Conover’s opinion on literally anything.
Same. Never heard of him, but will avoid. Total moron.
This is the most brutal beat down Joe has given outside of the octagon
lol😂
He’s never given a beat down in the octagon LOL
@@holywoof6419 I was just going to say
@@robertfuller2807 🤦♂️ I think he thinks Joes an mma fighter
Come on guy
So Adam knows a guy, who knows a guy, who isn’t actually a guy.
Lolol underrated comment.
Laughing out loud out loud
dude i just died from laughter
It was almost as if he had nothing of substance to say on the issue and just a bunch of opinions from a femboy
Best comment so far
What kind of sick parent transitions their kid at SEVEN YEARS OLD. Should be in jail for even suggesting something like that. Absolutely disgusting and criminal
Absolutely. It makes me sick
Agreed sir! The scary thing is that those people exist and there growing from these institutions putting this radical ideology into people's minds.. I believe alot of our colleges are to blame for a lot of this.. go be trans if you want who cares! But you must let a child become mature before making that jump.. it's so wild that we all have been children and we all know we had crazy thoughts.. shits sad
Swear. If my parents let me do whatever I want I would have had surgery to look like sonic at seven years old. Ur mind ain't straight n thinking of the future effects
Virtue signaling with your kids. You go from bottom of the victimhood pyramid to the top because you are the parent of a transgender child. Sick people really. We have to find a way to save the kids from these butchers
I gave myself a scar to look like the characters in assassins creed, god I was stupid at that age
This defines how good Joe actually is at debating
When you're so 'woke' it impacts your ability to take on scientific facts
Well everything can be scientific, but you don’t have to read nothing in order to fully understand the difference between a male and female.
This isn’t “woke”. Woke should be not picking either side (left or right) and realizing that the bank cartels run everything. Not thinking men should play women sports.
@@Xxrocknrollgod being against the banking cartels is a good thing
But don’t you dare say who RUNS the cartels. That would make you a nazi
@@DarranKern oy vey!! Shut it down!!
@@DarranKern J mafia
Adam ruins his credibility.
I don’t know what he’s famous for but he’s just gonna be a doormat for the alphabet people.
@@Therealdrewdober he was famous for "ruining" everything. But over time he showed himself to be a dumbass
I mean the show was producers telling him what to say, clearly wasn't his own thoughts and research as he clearly doesn't listen to info proving him wrong
And the winner for best comment goes to….
Bwahahahaha so true
I haven't seen a person so consistently fumble the ball in a debate like I have watching/listening to Adam.
100%!!! I’m totally open to debate & opposing ideas, but as a fan of Joe’s I’m embarrassed for him that he did not vet Adam better before having him on his show as he’s not the caliber of intellect we expect on here.
It’s difficult to listen to an abject moron who can’t keep up on an adult level of conversation, but I love that Joe doesn’t let him off the intellectual hook!!🤦♂️🤦♂️❄️
No I don't think Adam is dumb. It's his emotions and narrative that are getting in the way of his logical opinions which all humans do at some point.
@@nathanc30 “Logical opinions”😂😂😂😭
@@nathanc30HAHAHAHA
Adam is a good goy.
19:06 i actually burst out laughing. Adam actually thinks that "lower gender dysphoria and improved sexual relationships" are more important than "higher risks of mortality, suicidal behavior and psychiatric morbidity" after so-called gender correction surgery
Adam "I'm not an expert but I'm going to pretend I am anyways" Conover
He says multiple times he's not an expert.
Yeah but then he speaks in a way to sound factual. You can't shit on ancient aliens dudes and ok this
He's just going off the research he's seen. People are allowed to do that. If your disagree, you, also not being an expert, may also provide counter evidence. That's how a conversation is SUPPOSED to work.
@@Majere3 Joe Rogan is stating objective truths and his guest rebuts with opinions that are not informed . I don't know if that qualifies as a productive discussion.
You know how you can tell when someone has little grounded confidence in what they are saying?
They make a declaration and end the sentence with "right", then hurry into their next sentence which makes it look like the person they are speaking with agrees with them.
Its so common now, and its incredibly annoying and obvious to anyone with a triple digit IQ.
It's really a bad habit because it becomes a common thing they do subconsciously. So When they actually have a real point, it makes them seem less credible.
This guy got picked last in kickball his entire life
He's still getting picked last in kickball games
LMFAOOOO
I'm sure they chose not to pick him at all.
Hahaha so true
I bet he reeks of patchouli
This dude has ZERO logic behind his ideas. Literally could not form an opinion on this and just danced around the question.
When joe provided evidence and coherently explained how males possessed physiological advantages, hence why we have different divisions/competitions based on sex and Adam simple “Disagreed”. I just had to stop watching. Incoherent and illogical and the sad thing is he covered earlier the exact reason why he is doing it
Glad Joe had him on his program...hes exposed.
You are incorrect. He was able to form opinions VERY easily, he just had zero facts to base them on. They are all based on his conversations with his friends and their feelings. Joe was amazing providing facts and this dipstick just shrugged his shoulders and said he disagrees.
“Em, um, ahh, ahh, I’m not an expert”. Verbal drooling right there!
"I'm not an expert"
Then educate yourself. Not being an expert and declaring that it's "just your opinion" does not make it immune to criticism. In fact, it incites it.
But he did educate himself..he read a book, remember??
@@the_aliien Yeah, and he has trans friends, of course.
He knows people. Just ask him. He'll tell you.
Is Joe Rogan an expert? I mean I know he into UFC but is he an expert on the science of being trans? Adam has a point that maybe the way we have been doing sports could be different so it is inclusive to trans people.
@@TheRealPizzaBrains This comment isn't even about Joe...
Adam’ logic = emotional
Joe’s logic = logical
This is the perfect example of someone who feels strongly about a subject and knows nothing about it, yet tries to argue it based on their own beliefs and not science or data. That’s never a good idea. Having trans friends doesn’t make you en expert on the subject.
I think Joe and Adam were logical and unemotional, but Adam allowed the more aggressive host to run him over. It wasn't a good look at all
@@PaperRaines How was Joe aggressive? Joe would throw logical points at Adam and he would end up in a stutter loop cause he didnt have a sound answer. Adam on the subject of transgender athletes was only in his feelings and how he wants the world to be, not how it really is.
@@foyo5497 you and I watched the same video clip. If you didn't find Joe to be more aggressively assertive with his points towards his guest, then we're not going to agree on anything. I can't _make_ you see that
@@PaperRaines Aggressive means something like "behaving in an angry and violent way towards another person". Didnt see that at all from Joe. If challenging someone`s ideas means "aggressive" to you, then we arent going to agree as you said.
Besides the two of them sometimes cutting each other off, it was for the most part respectable to me.
@@foyo5497 we're seeing degrees of magnitude differently in their demeanors and speaking tone and pace. What you see as respectable I saw as the host "bullying" his guest. I put that in quotes because I don't want to say Joe was being mean, I'm saying he ran Adam over because he knew he could. It was predator v pray
Adam Conover is deep in the narrative kool aid.
Jennyanne Conway and he clings to it for dear life 🤣
Jennyanne Conway he’s sucking up to that media teet. He knows the narrative.
Jennyanne Conway He will announce he is running for the Democrats next week. What a dangerous lunatic
Joe is doing saintly work here. I kinda don't like Rogan. But his shows great. Lately he's been doing epic shit. Like, he figured out the perfect time to ride the wave of the narrative shift. I think it's a big deal.
Twitter. Alex fucking Jones. This idiot. Joe's making it ok to crush their bad argument without being fucked by their system.
Me just puting this video on after 3 spliffs and through the whole video readin the coments😂😂
I’ve never seen someone be wrong about literally everything he says.
Yeah no joke
He was right about not being an expert
Adam was the kid who was picked last at everything
Still is, I assume.
I can't imagine how many ugly girls have to friendzone you in order you to lose all self respect and think like Adam
"Adam Last at everythiiiiing" XD
And I bet he thanked them for picking others first, so they don't feel bad.
Dude, he was the kid who made everyone want to smoke him in dodgeball, after talking shit, and then got dodgeball banned. Then was happy when they had calisthenics day.
FUCK ADAM!!!
“There no perfect fairness, so instead of trying to get as close as possible I’m on giving advantage to people I like more”.
New drinking game. Whenever he says uhhh or ummm....take a shot.
Dude I’m 30 seconds in and about to black out
As someone who was a child and loved being a tomboy, I am so glad I was never given the option to transition. I constantly pretended to be a boy, I played sports on boys teams, dressed like a boy, declared myself my father’s son…… now I’m a happy mother. I still prefer male company, playing video games and love watching MMA, hunting but I would never want to be a man. I was so sad when I was a kid I wasn’t a boy but as an adult am so grateful to be a woman. Please let kids find themselves instead of pumping them with drugs!!!
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Explain this to Adam and his trans friends
Some girls r just more masculine due to their environment
how would being given the option have done anything to you? would you have taken the option? Do you think that after going through all the doctors and psychologists that you'd still feel the need to transition?
cause if the answer is yes then you might have some questions for yourself you need to answer.
If the answer is no, then why do you give a shit? you're not trans, you weren't trans so the option wouldnt have changed anything about you
@@StarPichu12 if you asked me at age 4-13 years I would have said yes I’m a boy. That’s my problem with letting kids so young make that choice. I would have done anything to be a boy. Once I went through puberty and adjusted to being a human I stopped feeling that way. Turns out I’m just Bisexual. In high school I ran the GSA and helped other kids transitioning but they were 16-18 years old not 4-14years old.
Joe rogan is a man of incredible patience
For real though! I think that often while listening to his podcasts. But this one is on a whole different level.
An extreme degree of tolerance for what is intolerable, I admire his monk-like patience
@@juangonzalez-xq9cpyou love to see it
Joe: If they think they're a girl, why take hormones?
Adam: Windows XP Error.....
Adam: can you expand on the question?
Joe: .... it’s a simple question...
He was so unprepared...it was hilarious. He's basically advocating torture of children for the sake for reinforcing the superiority of a particular ideology.
There's a one word answer but he just didn't know it: Dysphoria
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🤣🤣🤣
Have a shot every time he says "uhh" ⚠️ WARNING once you hear it... you can't unhear it.
You’d literally die in five mins lol
I’m blacked out 10 minutes in holy shit
The weaselly attempt to patronize Joe by saying, “right?” after every wrong thing he says is telling.
It is painfully obvious that no one has really challenged his opinions in person in quite some time.
Denying reality (the reality that males and females are biologically different, and biological males tend to dominate in sports) confidently doesn’t stop that reality from being true.
Adam is nothing without his staff of snappy writers and slick editors.
"We're both just confirming our own biases here." "I'm just reading the study" Such a clean response
“Because how mechanics work”
“A muscle creates energy from food, it gives you more than you put in”
It was then that I stopped listening to this idiotic conversation
yea i was confused didnt he say the law of thermodynamics means you cant get more then you put in? then he contradicted himself with the muscle and food thing
And you were all the better for it. This guy speaks pure nonsense.
CHlEFFIN I’m mad joe doesn’t check his ass bro ... like be like I’m sorry cant have you make shit up on my podcast
You guys are confused. He’s saying a spring can never produce more energy then is initially put into it. But a muscle can both use the energy put into it by compression and add energy by expanding.
A spring is a spring a muscle is a motor.
He’s right, but it’s not the best argument.
LMAO
This guy I know swapped his lower legs for a bicycle but he isn’t any faster than me because of muscles and thermodynamics
Adam genuinely scares me and I would never let him anywhere near my kids.
Imagine if he was your dad and Sarah Spain was your mom.
I used to have a housemate who looked just like him. He took fat shits and would never flush.
Never trust a guy who is that obsessed with kids’ genitalia
Facts.. I hope he don't have children
It's so fun to hear someone who's never played sports give an expert opinion
He’s not an expert, right
@@matthewweaver8212Right.
Come on! I know you heard at least one of the 20 times he said "Once again, I'm not an expert"😂. It's the only thing he could say without 5 stuttering uhhhhhs😂😂😂. You gotta be better!
He definately gives off that picked last in gym class vibe forsure.
Did Adam just state that human legs defy the rules of thermodynamics... because muscles use food as energy?
Thespokenone Yeah haha
Yep. What are you, toxic or something?
@@v12vanquish135 I'm known as the toxic avenger, haha
@@Thespokenone Toxie???
Thespokenone RIGHT! what the fuck adam
01:01 dude said "disabled runner who killed his gf" and started to laugh right after, what is wrong with that dude? What an angry little man that can't seem to stop saying "I" this is common in people like these even if you know basic psychology you know exactly what im talking about, these people are high in dark triad