Alpha and Beta doesn’t mean anything. I’m way bigger than both these men and probably more aggressive, but it’s possible to be a genetic Alpha and a financial Beta.
I mean if you put Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime in the room they would both look like beta males. I can agree with Adams point even if it’s poorly executed. I think even Rogan agreed with that part. Where Adam was insanely wrong if on the fact that men prefer women with hour-glass shaped women. They proved it with meta-data that included thousands of years of artworks from cultures all over that world that depicted the ideal women. Every time in every culture women with hour-glass shaped bodies were depicted.
Playing dungeons and dragons is a all round work out for him.... Guess you never rolled a 36 sided dice until drop drown from too much exercise to get the perfect beta male body
@@eaStudioHD I don't know what Rich did so I am not going to get him and if he is working out in the gym he could be dangerous unless he drinks soya milk
@@eaStudioHD How about both, you fool? Plenty of rich people go to the gym, in fact most of them do. It's the smart thing to do. How about quit making excuses and improve yourself?
Im here thinking how the fuck could he think this, being a man and all but, regardless of the sexual orientation but some men would cut off their dicks because they dont feel right and i would kill myself if i just woke up someday with suddenly peeing through a hole with not even having a tiny dick 😀 so i guess thats two entirely different type of genders not just a different man and not all women like the strong masculine tall mother fucker but that only happen after a horrible relationship with one, then she starts finding what she wants in a smart guy with no masculine side and she would be okay with it , heck, women could even date motherfuckin ugly guys, but for me i would never want to be an Adam typa man stuttering and saying something is not when it is actually is, look at these two men and ask men who would they want to be!
Exactly!! This reminds me of the part in the podcast where Adam said “the only reason men are better at sports is because they were designed for men” and then was flabbergasted when joe simply disagreed. I think that the effect he’s talking about happens when people identify with their beliefs, which causes them to want to be right rather than want to find the truth, which is exactly what Adam does. He majorly lacks humility especially in comparison to joe, which is necessary if you want to actually find the truth.
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture. Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind. The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me. And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def, Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp You forgot to put the money and fame into the equation... Nobody cares if the male is smart or dumb if he has 100 mil deposited in his bank account (In the case of the manlet Joe) and he is famous
This WHOLE video comes down to THIS - the alpha stays calm, confident and letting the other speak while the beta is emotional, all over the place and talks fast to seem more confident and knowledgeable.
@joli7948John has actually dealt with all that and then some. Adam wouldn’t be able to put up with what he’s survived. And how dare you make assumptions about my guy over here. I guess you betas have to stick together huh. Now calm down and go sit in the timeout spot to cool down
@@MovieGuy666 There's a major flaw in that thought process: There are far more athletes than there are boy bands. Numerically, athleticism far outshines anything else in terms of female attraction.
@@MovieGuy666 Fame and Money are up there 2, but the one thing these things have in common are that they all allow, the man to exhibit power over others.
an alpha is something when something in their life is not satisfying them they work towards improving it. They are acutely aware that the time is now to fix the things that arent right in their lifes. a beta is someone who wallows in self-pity and blames the world when something in their life is unsatisfying, because its easier than working on yourself and admitting you have faults that must be fixed I don't know why people overcomplicate it by adding dating dynamics towards it.
@hyeboi Being 5'7 is a small sacrifice for being confident enough to be a top commentator, knowing how to fight, being in shape, generally does not stutter, etc.
While I don't believe in alpha and beta, there is a clear hirarchy in society and social situations, its absurd to say it isnt. I was always a pretty insecure dude and since I broke up with my ex I started working out and facing my fears. Its really strange what formal clothing, a few muscles and a confident smile can do for you, people now very much respect me and dont take advance of the good guy in me. What is more strange is that I had horrible anxiety and OCD and it is gone because my self worth and convidence is way higher. My advice for all the guys in the 'beta' situation: 1. Go do something your pasionate about. 2. Work out, eat healthy. 3. Practise to stand up for yourself, against stronger people than you think you are. 4. Don't show your insecurity in social situations, learn to cope with them in a healthy manner and try to see them as nothing more than an insecurity and not reality. 5. Believe your worth is, because you are like everyone else. 6. Fix your finances. 7. Treat woman with respect but never ever simp.
bier when small men talk well, are good story tellers, and are entertaining and have charisma, and are successful comedians,are they alpha or beta? is Danny DeVito a beta? .....when someone leads the conversation and everybody in he group listens to him, is he alpha? what if some people listening are bored and just don't want to tell him that his talking is petty gossip... is he still alpha?when some people stay quiet and confident and don't feel any need to join gossipy shallow conversations, are they alpha or beta?..When athletic tall muscular people stutter and not talk much and are shy, are they alpha or beta?
There is a hirarchy in many things but, if you read my comment, I don't believe in the alpha or beta thing. You can be dominant in a lot of situations but not in others. I am a short guy myself haha. I think it is better for people to focus on becoming a better version of themself in stead of the whole alpha or beta thing, we are not a group of wolves, humans are complex. But some people don't aknowledge that there is a hirarchy between men and to that I would say, go to a bar, club or any other social situation where people have more primitive behaviors and observe for yourself.
Yeah but it has nothiong to do with a fixed ideal like Joe was trying to say out of his own insecurity. This guy was trying to explain but Joe was too triggered and kept talking over him. No Joe, being a confident failed college athlete will not make you more socially dominant than a introverted millionare who owns a massive company.
As a woman, I am attracted to strong, conservative minded men. I want someone who wants me to be a strong, feminine woman. Old school values, without control struggles. It has more to do with mindset and a sense of balance. I want a mentally balanced man.
Women are attracted to confidence and strength, timidness and weakness aren't attractive at all. To men those things barely make a difference. Adam desperately wants attraction to be equal across sexes.
As a woman, I am not attracted to that and love the thoght of an equal parter who'll take care of half the housechores gladly because that's the type of relationship they want. Who likes my food and isn't on some extream diet bc I am one of the people (who men and woman do that) love cooking. I like cuddeling and idk if you've noticed some body fat is way more cozy. And all of that dosn't really matter bc I still fell in love w a men I was writing w on the interent who I had no idea how he lookes or anything, just that he's smart and attentive and in some strange way saw some things like me that made me feel seen. What's to say Aplha males are so much fucking bs
It's true that it depends. There is confident and comfortable people that are total idiots, that attract women in contexts that favors it. A professional athlete can't attract the same amount of women for example in a Justin Bieber concert or an American Football concert
The point he was making is everyone is confident and comfortable in one thing and not in another. The "Alpha" football jock in high school would probably be a "Beta" to the captain of the chess club if they were playing chess and vice versa. And so the girls in the chess club would probably be more attracted to chess nerd and see HIM as the "alpha" while the girls who like football players would be more attracted to the other. Humans too damn complex to fall into all encompassing categories my dude.
This is proof positive of the idea that the best way to shut down people with crazy or inaccurate ideas is to let them talk. If you silence ignorant people, then you never really get to find out just how ignorant they are. The longer that Adam talked on any subject the more evident it was that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
@@FrappuccinoAlfredo I am referring to this video. That is why I am commenting here. As do you. You literally said, that there is an alpha male and a beta male in THIS video.
I spent my 20s as an introverted, socially awkward geeky type. I quit smoking at 29, moved halfway across the country, kick started my career, and got in the best physical shape of my life at 35. I start earning 6 figures at 38. Even if Alpha and Beta designations were scientifically applicable to humans (they are not), the designations were never applicable for life. I've seen plenty of women who were fine af in high school wind up fat af by 35. Life circumstances (and classifications) are a reflection of choices, environment, & genetics.
An alpha is the leader of any given social hierarchy. It's dependent on context and therefore the fact that it changes over time or the social group one is in is not an argument against its existence in humans. I really don't get people's twisting logic into pretzels to deny the fact that leaders, dominant people, apexes, heads, alphas, (or whatever word one uses) undeniablly exist within groups of humans.
@ranman7688 I never denied that leadership exists in personal or professional hierarchies. I simply state that the term "alpha" should never have been applied because the scientist who originally coined the term and applied it to wolf interactions later in his life realized and admitted that his conclusions were erroneous due to his observation subjects being wolves in captivity. There are, in the wild, in the real world, no alpha wolves. So, again, restate it makes zero sense to apply that specific term to any human interactions. The connotation of the word "alpha" is false because it is based on observation of an unnatural, controlled environment wherein the wolves were effectively forced into their hierarchies.
@@FostuRKid He was saying that people who believed in Alphas and Betas in human society are backed by bad science. This bad science justifies their untrue beliefs of there being a social heirarchy. Bad science also justified slavery. Science at one time said that black people were less than white people and genetically inferior so them being slaves wasn't bad. They were made to be servants. Again, this bad science justified racist ideas.
@@Creeshawn "being in good shape and confident generally makes people more attractive." "AND THAT'S WHY AFRICAN SLAVERY HAPPENED!" Wait, what? One is an observance of the general population's tendencies to sexual attractiveness and the other was bullshit propaganda to gain forced cheap labor. There is almost no smooth transition from one to the other. Its just pointless straw man arguments. Why make it racial? Adam is a moron.
I don’t think introvert belongs on the negative list. Obama is an introvert. Tom Hanks is an introvert. Just to name a couple of famous people. Also, introvert and shy are two different traits. There are introverts who are not shy.
The confirmation bias and the beliefs that form ones identity is an interesting topic especially when it comes to science. As recent years have shown, that creeps into what we once though was an unbiased, facts-based area and has made us all skeptical of how unbiased and trustworthy many people in the scientific community truly are.
Any alpha automatically become beta in presence of hierarchically higher individual. Would Joe be an alpha in presence of President of USA? He is not an alpha even in presence of Dana White.
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture. Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind. The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me. And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def, Mr alphas rofl...
Lmao the whole video I'm like how doesn't this dude realize he's living in a real life example of an alpha vs beta. Joe had to have had that thought cross his mind.
I can't help but feel that the view of no such thing as Beta and Alpha, is just another part of our modern way of thinking, when we're trying so hard not to hurt anyone's feelings. There may not be strict Alphas and Betas, but there certainly are more dominant individuals and more submissive ones. That's not a bad thing, it just is. To argue against that makes one sound ignorant of reality.
That's exactly what they are both saying - scientifically there's no such thing as alpha and beta males in the evolutionary hierarchy of humans, but they both agree that more dominant and more submissive individuals exist. However, Adam is also making the point that if you change the environment that those individuals are in, then that may have a dramatic effect on those individuals' dominance and confidence. He doesn't articulate it well, but I get the point he is making.
Joe is definitely right on this 💯the guest thinks he’s a lot smarter than he is and is to narrow minded in his own agenda to listen to any type of logic, it’s truly baffling
@@DaniilShevelev Adam didn't make any points. He kept making absurd assertions then tried to run with them. Joe only challenged his nonsense. He tried to claim women wouldn't find an athletic man attractive. Yeah, watch how women react when they see an athletic man & tell me he's not full of shit.
Both men made some interesting points. I don't completely agree or disagree with either of them and i have a few reasons for that. While i do agree with Joe that men and women are attracted to a certain body type, i don't think that's set in stone for every member of the species. An athletic build is attractive to almost every human, but there are exceptions. Where i have a problem with Joe is that i think he can't see past that. That athletic physique will get you noticed but there's a lot more to attraction than just physique, i.e. intellect, social skills, etc. I agree with Adam when he says we cannot just say 'evolutionary psychology' everytime we find a behaviour trait that's common in current society. Where i find a problem with Adam is that i think he's denying the fact that people are generally attracted to an athletic physique. However, the bottom line is that we try to boil down a very complicated subject like sexual attraction in humans to a very simple theory of alphas and betas. But we've heard alpha and beta for so long from so many different sources that now we often vehemently oppose anyone who questions the legitimacy of that theory.
Sean Hannity actually doesn't believe in climate change tho. And while Adam didn't know for sure (which is never 100% possible), it was a pretty safe assumption. He just changed it to an example of someone who's career had an emphasis on climate change above all else.
franklinbadge1215 actually hannity has admitted it is happening he just doesn't know if it's because of human impact. We don't have solid data to make a conclusion that it is directly because of human impact.
Adam should have just left it as "The social construct of alpha and beta isn't based on science. Women are attracted to confidence, a trait often attributed to stronger men, but a physically weak, but smart man, confident in his field, would generate the same attractiveness". Instead he was just trying to argue physical features of both men and women we evolved to find attractive don't exist, is just absurd.
the hourglass thing Joe speaking about is not an inherent evolutionary preference e.g. in ancient greece big boobs were considered fugly, there are some african tribes where long saggy tits are the shit, and somewhere on a planet there is a male beauty pageant where biggest dadbod wins all the pussy. and i bet throughout time there were lots of weird preferences coming and going like fashion, hell, even like 20 years ago no one (except black americans maybe, dunno) thought of big asses as hot, and now it's all about the hips, babe (or its just me getting older and attracted to milfs, lol)
Yup and the experiment is done on TH-cam. The difference between a couple thousand views to a couple million is a girl with nice tits on a thumbnail lmao
In the same way an alpha ain’t gotta brag on himself, if u an alpha, other ppl will brag on you for you.... that’s even biblical... don’t brag or boast on yoself!!! That’s super beta ish
He seriously went on a weird path defending his post. Yeah I agree "alpha" and "beta" are basic and false. But Joe is absolutely right about attraction.
@@Ubernaught012 Joe's only half right though. Society and media absolutely manipulate what we find attractive. You can Google a chart depicting Ideal Body Shapes throughout the ages. And wealth and social standing probably count for more now. If a woman had to choose between Joe Rogan or Jeff Bezos as a partner, Joe would be like "But wait! What about my muscles?! And my need to dominate others?! I'm so lonely!"
He says that men are indoctrinated to what to be attracted to as a kid, and people like him also like to push these certain storytimes in schools and libraries.....
Adam is right though, this Alpha beta ideology doesn't account for how humans ostracize overly dominant and demanding character traits as being anti-social. Joe is mostly right about the hr glass figure being consistently the beauty standard, however different circumstances call for different beauty standards, in times of conflict, women with more masculine traits tend to be seen as more attractive, and there is a correlation between social class and male preferences for boob size and women's body fat percentage. Your dominance changes all the time, go to the gym and you'll see people benching 100s of pounds, while you struggle with just benching the ba, then you go to work where your a mid tier manager. Adam is right but he's fucking terrible at defending his arguments Also all the top tech companies of the world are run buy people with beta traits. Bill gates doesn't exactly exude dominance
@@Ozzyisunavailable adam isn't right at all. He tries to come at it from a "scientific" standpoint but most of the people i have heard talk about beta males and alpha malss say that it is sociological, meanwhile he is strawmanning the idea and arguing something that isn't being contested
Well he shouldn’t, Adam himself buys into that intersectional sudo science ideology, I liked some of his videos in the past but it’s clear that a lot of his videos are driven by ideology and not actual scientific and statistical facts, I’ve seen episodes where he makes massive statements based on race and completely ignores statistics probably because he doesn’t want to look racist 🤦🏻♂️
Not really. I can tell you as a shy, introverted, non-atletic male that I've had plenty of women be attracted to me for those very reasons. I like Joe but he's WAY over simplifying it.
@@jeffstellarry7996 I agree , how about this athletic guy is at the music conservatory or the science fair your big muscles and over-attention to outward appearance aint going to cut it, in fact you might look stupid.
@@jeffstellarry7996 Im not knocking people for being shy and introverted. I can be that way as well. I just meant Adam is the typical hollywood liberal elite based on a lot of interviews Ive seen from him. and I prolly would look stupid at a science fair. Im kind of a dumbass but im not arrogant.
@@michaelspoto8720 Hey, it's cool, I'm not trying to be hostile to you in any way. However, dismissing him as a Hollywood elitist just seems inaccurate to me because his argument seems to have some scientific basis. Also,. much of what liberal Hollywood has to say is truthful and they get bashed for being outspoken about issues much of the media ignores. I'm not saying they're right about everything but they are unfairly criticized sometimes.
@@jeffstellarry7996 I don't know much about the topic of this particular clip so maybe there is science to back it up. I was speaking in a more broad sense. a lot of the things he says is just dumb. like we should put chemicals in kids bodies who identify as the opposite sex. I think that's "too woke" and actually dangerous. he almost is the typical stereotype that right wingers lump lefties as. Im sure he's a nice guy but that's how i feel.
One thing that's always bothered me about alpha/beta deniers is that they always stick to the wolf comparison. "Well actually wolves organize into family units and the so-called 'alphas' are really the parents. Then the children move away and start their own packs and become their own alphas." Okay, sure. I question that declaration, but I won't argue with it. But do you know where you _can_ see a clear alpha/beta social structure? In our closest living relatives. Chimpanzee clans always have leaders and subordinates. That's an observed pattern. Why wouldn't we be like chimps?
1. It doesnt matter if you see a clear alpha/beta social structure in chimpanzees, do you see that social structure in humans? 2. You wanna know why we wouldn't be like chimps? Because our evolutionary lineages have diverged millions of years ago. Chimps have not made their own language and writing system, nation-states, or a rocket that can fly to the moon, so we can assume that there are some big differences between how our brains work.
Firstly it doesn’t matter if you “question that declaration” lol, it’s been proven false, and discredited by the scientist who originally posited the Alpha-male pack theory amongst wolves in the first place. It does not exist. Embrace it and move on. Chimpanzees social hierarchies are complex and aren’t simply about who is the strongest and most aggressive. Some alphas maintain leadership via fostering alliances through grooming and other social interactions, they lead because they are the most intelligent, not simply because they have the biggest muscles or listen to the most podcasts. So we are just like our closest relatives, complex.
10:08 “When someone is told a fact that contradicts a really deeply held belief, it can cause them to disbelieve it, even if its true, and fight back even harder” The lack of self awareness is incredible
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture. Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind. The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me. And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def, Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp Buddy what are you on about? With your same logic what's stopping anyone from slitting the guy with a big brains throat when he's not looking? An alpha is just a social position held generally by attractive confident men who are fairly smart and they tend to "win" in social situations and attract more women as a result. You sound like you have some coping to do lol.
@@berserk972 Bullying is a process of character development. You have to face your inadequacies in order to develop yourself as a better man (money, muscles, and courage). What someone like Adam would do is use rationalization in order to hide from their inadequacies rather than face them. This is the easy path of cowardice.
@@alexbarnes9364 People are always gonna have inadequacies stand out and adversity in life without bullies. Most people develop character If they have a bully as a kid or not. If anything you guys encouraging giving into bullies shows how little character you actually have.
Wtf dude! Are you seriously justifying bullying as character building and say rather than stand up to it or ignore you should look at your own inadequacies or you’re a coward!? I really hope you don’t have kids and if you don’t do us all favour and don’t have any 👍
Adam- "Women aren't hardwired to be attracted to strong muscular athletic men" Me- "if you were a strong, muscular, athletic man, you wouldn't be saying that, guaranteed.
Zephyr is right! A woman will marry a beta, or a rich guy, because of security, but will be sexualy atracted to a masculine man, she might get pregnant with that guy, if are not on the pill, women tend to pick more masculine man...we tend to scan the body of a man in 60 seconds, and after we can sence his personal smell, we know if we want to have sex with him or not...the shoulder to hip ratio is important, the shape of the jaw line, the size of the hands and the teeth...
@Zephyr In the case of humans, this isn't always true though. That's why in the beginning of the video Adam said it's not a scientific statement. A scientific statement cannot be true if even 1 evidence is found contradictory regardless of how much supporting evidence you have. The fact that homosexuality exists contradicts that statement. The fact that some people are in love with people with disabilities/illnesses contradicts your statement. And so many more. That statement is only 100% true to non-human species because unlike humans, those species are more simple and bounded by nature. Humans are very complex, free willed, and have consciousness.
It's kind of easy if you think about it, Joe Rogan. The ideas of beauty are put into our minds by media, commercials, advertisements for centuries. That's why we like a certain body type. You're a thinker think it out
Was thinking the same thing bud, had already watched this, yet some part of me just yearned to relive some sort of awkward social encounter...even from afar
I have a friend like this, he disagrees with everything but never counterpoint with the core of what he’s disagreeing with. I think some people just like to disagree with people for the sake of it.
This dude is coping so hard. He's not tall dark or handsome so he's hell-bent on destroying that narrative. "Well I don't think that's true because it might not be" Nice logic, he was so convincing.
Listen don't attack Dungeons & Dragons players. One is married to Sofia Vergara. She isn't as young as she use to be. But she still can melt a stick of butter in the middle of a blizzard by looking at it.
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Adam Conover just convinced me there are definitely Alphas and Betas.
5am in Detroit im on the same shit
Only Betas would deny they exist 🤣
Alpha and Beta doesn’t mean anything. I’m way bigger than both these men and probably more aggressive, but it’s possible to be a genetic Alpha and a financial Beta.
😂😂
@@darylpettiford4900 omg that's great!
Hes literally wearing a b
lmao B for Beta
xD
LOOOOL!
Thanks for pointing this out. Hilarious😂
And a is for apple
Having Joe and this guy in the same room literally proves that there are alphas and betas 😂😂
🤣🤣
I so wanted to like this comment, if only you'd left out "literally"
@@mtthwpnnthat's actually good use of the word in this day in age. It literally proves it. Maybe somewhat redundant but not incorrect.
Get a grip. Seriously.
I mean if you put Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime in the room they would both look like beta males. I can agree with Adams point even if it’s poorly executed. I think even Rogan agreed with that part. Where Adam was insanely wrong if on the fact that men prefer women with hour-glass shaped women. They proved it with meta-data that included thousands of years of artworks from cultures all over that world that depicted the ideal women. Every time in every culture women with hour-glass shaped bodies were depicted.
Everytime i don’t feel like working out, I watch this interview.
That’s actually a fantastic idea. Thank you! I’ll have to put this guys face as my home screen to inspire myself.
Comment of the day😂
This got me doing push ups
damn that's what I am doing right now I need to go workout and close tab.
😂😂😂
This is the most articulated way to avoid going to the gym ever.
Playing dungeons and dragons is a all round work out for him.... Guess you never rolled a 36 sided dice until drop drown from too much exercise to get the perfect beta male body
How about spending time to get rich rather than going to gym you fool
@@eaStudioHD I don't know what Rich did so I am not going to get him and if he is working out in the gym he could be dangerous unless he drinks soya milk
Yea bro lift weights bro
@@eaStudioHD How about both, you fool? Plenty of rich people go to the gym, in fact most of them do. It's the smart thing to do. How about quit making excuses and improve yourself?
This man has an uncanny talent to convince me the opposite of what he wants me to think.
XD
well said sir.
Im here thinking how the fuck could he think this, being a man and all but, regardless of the sexual orientation but some men would cut off their dicks because they dont feel right and i would kill myself if i just woke up someday with suddenly peeing through a hole with not even having a tiny dick 😀 so i guess thats two entirely different type of genders not just a different man and not all women like the strong masculine tall mother fucker but that only happen after a horrible relationship with one, then she starts finding what she wants in a smart guy with no masculine side and she would be okay with it , heck, women could even date motherfuckin ugly guys, but for me i would never want to be an Adam typa man stuttering and saying something is not when it is actually is, look at these two men and ask men who would they want to be!
Marwan elkady it depends on the person; the guy that’s considered ugly is likely to get a girl that’s considered the same.
Witch one?
He actually brought up slavery to justify why women prefer other men over him
9:57 Adam literally describing how he acted during this entire podcast 😂😂
Exactly!! This reminds me of the part in the podcast where Adam said “the only reason men are better at sports is because they were designed for men” and then was flabbergasted when joe simply disagreed. I think that the effect he’s talking about happens when people identify with their beliefs, which causes them to want to be right rather than want to find the truth, which is exactly what Adam does. He majorly lacks humility especially in comparison to joe, which is necessary if you want to actually find the truth.
i said the same thing Im dead
Like leftists being smarter & more intelligent
That's what I thought!
And I knew I wasn't alone.
So I looked for a comment that had pointed it out.
Now here I am 😂
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Joe not getting angry throughout this interview was the most alpha thing ever
Patience goals
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture.
Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind.
The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me.
And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def,
Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp You forgot to put the money and fame into the equation... Nobody cares if the male is smart or dumb if he has 100 mil deposited in his bank account (In the case of the manlet Joe) and he is famous
This WHOLE video comes down to THIS - the alpha stays calm, confident and letting the other speak while the beta is emotional, all over the place and talks fast to seem more confident and knowledgeable.
@@rpvenomrp any animal even animals with clear alphas can be killed in their sleep, that point doesn’t mean anything
Adam is that friend, that your girlfriend has that you don’t worry about 😂
@D.A. Productions na man eventually she crosses the wrong guy that will put her on the street for the whore she is
@@JJ-hs3fy 😂😂😂😂 the most desperate attempt at being a troll I've ever seen. Keep it moving Mr. Beta.
Mauricio Escobar she goes on about how he’s such a brother to her.
Which is what an ideal relationship should be
Lol
...I can't even like this comment...it's at 420...RIP Bob Marley
Adam projects his own insecurities in ways I didn’t think were possible.
@joli7948you sound like a beta 4 sure
@joli7948if this is what you have to tell yourself every night, then sure buddy
@joli7948, are you a leftist?
@joli7948John has actually dealt with all that and then some. Adam wouldn’t be able to put up with what he’s survived. And how dare you make assumptions about my guy over here. I guess you betas have to stick together huh. Now calm down and go sit in the timeout spot to cool down
@joli7948Wow projecting much?
How is Adam so wrong on literally every topic they covered in this episode. It's truly astounding.
He's just mad his wife's boyfriend won't let him use the xbox
*Nintendo Switch
"My wife said it's my turn on the xbox".
Wife's bf has let him hold a broken controller so he can pretend he's playing the game too 😢
Fucking hilarious.
I literally just laughed so fucking hard at this.
"Unathletic man believes women "aren't" attracted to athletic men."
Boy bands get as much ass as pro athletes, so athleticism ism't a major factor.
@@MovieGuy666 There's a major flaw in that thought process:
There are far more athletes than there are boy bands. Numerically, athleticism far outshines anything else in terms of female attraction.
Lonnie Wright facts
@ Well put
@@MovieGuy666 Fame and Money are up there 2, but the one thing these things have in common are that they all allow, the man to exhibit power over others.
"Are alpha males and beta males real?"
Well they're talking to each other now
I used to not believe in the alpha, beta, sigma male theory but Adam made me a firm believer, thanks Adam!
an alpha is something when something in their life is not satisfying them they work towards improving it. They are acutely aware that the time is now to fix the things that arent right in their lifes.
a beta is someone who wallows in self-pity and blames the world when something in their life is unsatisfying, because its easier than working on yourself and admitting you have faults that must be fixed
I don't know why people overcomplicate it by adding dating dynamics towards it.
@@germangonzales2008 so an alpha is a functioning adult and a beta is a man child basically
The virgin high school quarterback vs. the Chad dungeon master
Lol
Underrated comment
Lmaoooo it be like that sometimes
Imagine all the hoops you got to go through so the alpha nerd wins the game but the beta quarterback fucked all the girls in your group. Lmao
@@Richard-Ikerd yeah that's the problem with videogames, feel like you are an alpha but just for nerds lol
I love the fact he has a giant red B on his chest
Omg 😂
B for bitch
rush b cyka Or beta?
🅱️ E T A
B for beta bitch lol
Joe: "fact 1, fact 2, fact 3"
Adam: "just because it makes sense...(stutters) It doesn't have to make sense"
Wow, the hubris
What we know about Adam:
1. He has lots of trans friends
2. He knows experts
3. He is not an expert on anything
I love how Adam wears a B on his jacket for Beta.
😂😂😂
Method Override or Bitch
Thought that would be overlooked lmao
LOL
I started scrolling through the comments to see how quick someone would point out the Beta Jacket.
Adam started as a Beta and finished as a Gamma
Underrated comment.
This made me laugh out loud.
Good shit 🏆
More like ended as an Omega....
😆
The fact that these two guys are in a room together kinda answers the question 😂
I don't have words for how Joe Rogan politely dealt with this. I wish i have an attitude like that.
If only joe had an A on his shirt.....
I think Harvard is the right place for you
Joe doesn't need it. You can just look at him and tell.
Well you can't spell TEAM without A
auschwitz oktoberfest he has many options good choice
Yes!!!
Alpha male confidently explaining to a beta that he is one.
@Yankie Doodle And can kick your heart out B.
Yankie Doodle height don’t make you alpha or beta
@hyeboi you serious? joe is a fucking humongous alpha male, there are countless videos on his alpha status.
@hyeboi
Being 5'7 is a small sacrifice for being confident enough to be a top commentator, knowing how to fight, being in shape, generally does not stutter, etc.
@hyeboi
What do you see as an alpha then?
While I don't believe in alpha and beta, there is a clear hirarchy in society and social situations, its absurd to say it isnt. I was always a pretty insecure dude and since I broke up with my ex I started working out and facing my fears. Its really strange what formal clothing, a few muscles and a confident smile can do for you, people now very much respect me and dont take advance of the good guy in me. What is more strange is that I had horrible anxiety and OCD and it is gone because my self worth and convidence is way higher. My advice for all the guys in the 'beta' situation: 1. Go do something your pasionate about.
2. Work out, eat healthy.
3. Practise to stand up for yourself, against stronger people than you think you are.
4. Don't show your insecurity in social situations, learn to cope with them in a healthy manner and try to see them as nothing more than an insecurity and not reality.
5. Believe your worth is, because you are like everyone else.
6. Fix your finances.
7. Treat woman with respect but never ever simp.
bier when small men talk well, are good story tellers, and are entertaining and have charisma, and are successful comedians,are they alpha or beta? is Danny DeVito a beta? .....when someone leads the conversation and everybody in he group listens to him,
is he alpha? what if some people listening are bored and just don't want to tell him that his talking is petty gossip... is he still alpha?when some people stay quiet and confident and don't feel any need
to join gossipy shallow conversations, are they alpha or beta?..When athletic tall muscular people stutter and not talk much and are shy, are they alpha or beta?
There is a hirarchy in many things but, if you read my comment, I don't believe in the alpha or beta thing. You can be dominant in a lot of situations but not in others. I am a short guy myself haha. I think it is better for people to focus on becoming a better version of themself in stead of the whole alpha or beta thing, we are not a group of wolves, humans are complex. But some people don't aknowledge that there is a hirarchy between men and to that I would say, go to a bar, club or any other social situation where people have more primitive behaviors and observe for yourself.
Yeah but it has nothiong to do with a fixed ideal like Joe was trying to say out of his own insecurity. This guy was trying to explain but Joe was too triggered and kept talking over him. No Joe, being a confident failed college athlete will not make you more socially dominant than a introverted millionare who owns a massive company.
Why can’t all comments be like this?
As a woman, I am attracted to strong, conservative minded men. I want someone who wants me to be a strong, feminine woman. Old school values, without control struggles. It has more to do with mindset and a sense of balance. I want a mentally balanced man.
Women are attracted to confidence and strength, timidness and weakness aren't attractive at all. To men those things barely make a difference.
Adam desperately wants attraction to be equal across sexes.
As a woman, I am not attracted to that and love the thoght of an equal parter who'll take care of half the housechores gladly because that's the type of relationship they want. Who likes my food and isn't on some extream diet bc I am one of the people (who men and woman do that) love cooking. I like cuddeling and idk if you've noticed some body fat is way more cozy.
And all of that dosn't really matter bc I still fell in love w a men I was writing w on the interent who I had no idea how he lookes or anything, just that he's smart and attentive and in some strange way saw some things like me that made me feel seen.
What's to say Aplha males are so much fucking bs
You mean a soft, feminine woman. Not strong.
@@catsaresocute650your username says it all cat lady. Well congratulations on bagging yourself a... BETAAAAA!!!! 😂
@@catsaresocute650That's because you're on the pill. Go 3 months off the pill, just to see what happens, and watch your tastes in men change.
That “B” on his jacket doesn’t stand for Boston.
B.... Itch?
No it's stands for Beta lol
Badass?
It stands for bullshit cause that's all he's talking lol
Fuck the sox
"Women are attracted to men who are confident and comfortable"
"no"
It's true that it depends. There is confident and comfortable people that are total idiots, that attract women in contexts that favors it. A professional athlete can't attract the same amount of women for example in a Justin Bieber concert or an American Football concert
But it's also true that Adam Conover is an imbecile
“eh that’s not quite the case”
@@brutanedda3107 What the fuck did you just say?
The point he was making is everyone is confident and comfortable in one thing and not in another. The "Alpha" football jock in high school would probably be a "Beta" to the captain of the chess club if they were playing chess and vice versa. And so the girls in the chess club would probably be more attracted to chess nerd and see HIM as the "alpha" while the girls who like football players would be more attracted to the other. Humans too damn complex to fall into all encompassing categories my dude.
This is proof positive of the idea that the best way to shut down people with crazy or inaccurate ideas is to let them talk. If you silence ignorant people, then you never really get to find out just how ignorant they are. The longer that Adam talked on any subject the more evident it was that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
The utter lack of self awareness at 10:40 is astounding
It's hilariously poetic how Adam has a "B" on his jacket
Wow
Sheesh, spot on
Lol agreed
Right! so any man who has a *"B"* on his jacket is a Beta.
Nice logic there m8
@@user-is3yn7xr4c Found the beta with poor logic.
There’s literally an alpha and a beta male in this video
Do you mean Joe Rogan is a beta? Because Adam ended up persuading him. Which makes him an alpha.
Janko M. Guess you haven’t watched the trans sporting event debate then huh
@@FrappuccinoAlfredo I am referring to this video. That is why I am commenting here. As do you. You literally said, that there is an alpha male and a beta male in THIS video.
Janko M. Ok
lol the alpha is 10x more smart than the beta too
“I’m all about things that aren’t intuitive” Yeah brotha we know
I spent my 20s as an introverted, socially awkward geeky type. I quit smoking at 29, moved halfway across the country, kick started my career, and got in the best physical shape of my life at 35. I start earning 6 figures at 38. Even if Alpha and Beta designations were scientifically applicable to humans (they are not), the designations were never applicable for life. I've seen plenty of women who were fine af in high school wind up fat af by 35. Life circumstances (and classifications) are a reflection of choices, environment, & genetics.
AMEN
Its not too late. I beat myself up everyday for not being successful at 22 but nothing happens overnight
Congrats on the change of discipline, you earned it 💪🏼
An alpha is the leader of any given social hierarchy. It's dependent on context and therefore the fact that it changes over time or the social group one is in is not an argument against its existence in humans. I really don't get people's twisting logic into pretzels to deny the fact that leaders, dominant people, apexes, heads, alphas, (or whatever word one uses) undeniablly exist within groups of humans.
@ranman7688 I never denied that leadership exists in personal or professional hierarchies. I simply state that the term "alpha" should never have been applied because the scientist who originally coined the term and applied it to wolf interactions later in his life realized and admitted that his conclusions were erroneous due to his observation subjects being wolves in captivity. There are, in the wild, in the real world, no alpha wolves. So, again, restate it makes zero sense to apply that specific term to any human interactions. The connotation of the word "alpha" is false because it is based on observation of an unnatural, controlled environment wherein the wolves were effectively forced into their hierarchies.
Adam: Makes declarative statement
Joe: Questions a little
Adam: Falls apart and attempts to bring in slavery
Ahahahha
How? It tied his argument pretty well.
Cristian Avila slavery for “evolutionary” purposes vs. body types for “evolutionary” purposes is not anywhere near tying together
@@FostuRKid He was saying that people who believed in Alphas and Betas in human society are backed by bad science. This bad science justifies their untrue beliefs of there being a social heirarchy. Bad science also justified slavery. Science at one time said that black people were less than white people and genetically inferior so them being slaves wasn't bad. They were made to be servants. Again, this bad science justified racist ideas.
@@Creeshawn "being in good shape and confident generally makes people more attractive." "AND THAT'S WHY AFRICAN SLAVERY HAPPENED!" Wait, what? One is an observance of the general population's tendencies to sexual attractiveness and the other was bullshit propaganda to gain forced cheap labor. There is almost no smooth transition from one to the other. Its just pointless straw man arguments. Why make it racial? Adam is a moron.
He should share this vital info with his wife's boyfriend
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
LMAO
his wife boyfriend sleeps in his bed and he sleeps in a cage
His trans boyfriend*
😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think introvert belongs on the negative list. Obama is an introvert. Tom Hanks is an introvert. Just to name a couple of famous people. Also, introvert and shy are two different traits. There are introverts who are not shy.
The confirmation bias and the beliefs that form ones identity is an interesting topic especially when it comes to science. As recent years have shown, that creeps into what we once though was an unbiased, facts-based area and has made us all skeptical of how unbiased and trustworthy many people in the scientific community truly are.
Joe - Alpha and proud of it
Adam - Beta and in denial about it
James smith and in denial about it even being a “thing”
Good example:
“I’m all about things being non-intuitive” .............We know Adam
Joe is just 5ft 7
@@valken666 ya and is jacked and has a black belt ......
wears a sweater with a capital B on it
Any alpha automatically become beta in presence of hierarchically higher individual. Would Joe be an alpha in presence of President of USA? He is not an alpha even in presence of Dana White.
Adam's the kinda dude to drop his wife at her boyfriend's house.
Damn lmao
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture.
Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind.
The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me.
And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def,
Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp man you copy pasted this to 20 different comments
@@kevplescia4397 something a beta would do because their feelings got hurt.
@@Alreadytaken1234 aka lil dick syndrome
He says right so much it makes you wonder if he is trying to convince himself he is right.
"there is not such thing as Alfa and Beta males". -The beta male
I literally only clicked on this video to read the comments. Y'all did not disappoint, thank you!
Hahahahaha
Same here
glad your wife's boyfriend let you read the comments. 😂
They are hilarious. I'm amazed at how many people commented without waiting for the last 90 seconds where Joe ends up agreeing with him.
Same! Not disappointed.
Adam becoming very uncomfortable realizing he's a beta talking to an Alpha.
😂😂😂
Right ..right
he really isnt. Cool as a cucumber as far as I can tell
mogur00 lmao nope
Adam is more attractive than Joe Rogen. Beta, or not.
10:25 he starts to explain what’s happening to him at that moment 😂
He some how managed to have the least convincing argument possible for something that's obviously true🤣
this dude's thinking "Well, I can't be a Beta male if they don't exist."
*taps on forehead
Your a beta, just look at you!
lol
I'd throw up a like but I don't wanna ruin your perfect number
😂😂😂😂 you sir are hilarious
You are literally looking at both an alpha and a beta male in this video... clear as day
You probably look like a fucking dork
And yet those terms don't exist
I like how you immediately triggered replies from beta bitches.
Lmao the whole video I'm like how doesn't this dude realize he's living in a real life example of an alpha vs beta. Joe had to have had that thought cross his mind.
well, he has a letter B on his sweater.
I can't help but feel that the view of no such thing as Beta and Alpha, is just another part of our modern way of thinking, when we're trying so hard not to hurt anyone's feelings. There may not be strict Alphas and Betas, but there certainly are more dominant individuals and more submissive ones. That's not a bad thing, it just is. To argue against that makes one sound ignorant of reality.
That's exactly what they are both saying - scientifically there's no such thing as alpha and beta males in the evolutionary hierarchy of humans, but they both agree that more dominant and more submissive individuals exist. However, Adam is also making the point that if you change the environment that those individuals are in, then that may have a dramatic effect on those individuals' dominance and confidence. He doesn't articulate it well, but I get the point he is making.
Joe is definitely right on this 💯the guest thinks he’s a lot smarter than he is and is to narrow minded in his own agenda to listen to any type of logic, it’s truly baffling
Saw video title. Then went straight to comment section for the "Alpha Joe vs. Beta Adam" comments.
#metoo
Adam really is beta
Adam is gay AF
Same
Adam is deep Beta he's so deep Beta that he unconsciously dressed a "B"eta jacket
Adam : no such thing as alpha and beta. People get upset when you tell them that.
Comment section : he's obviously a beta.
100%
Joe did not help this either by constantly interrupting and not letting Adam finish making his points.
@@DaniilShevelev Adam didn't make any points. He kept making absurd assertions then tried to run with them. Joe only challenged his nonsense. He tried to claim women wouldn't find an athletic man attractive. Yeah, watch how women react when they see an athletic man & tell me he's not full of shit.
Both men made some interesting points. I don't completely agree or disagree with either of them and i have a few reasons for that. While i do agree with Joe that men and women are attracted to a certain body type, i don't think that's set in stone for every member of the species. An athletic build is attractive to almost every human, but there are exceptions. Where i have a problem with Joe is that i think he can't see past that. That athletic physique will get you noticed but there's a lot more to attraction than just physique, i.e. intellect, social skills, etc. I agree with Adam when he says we cannot just say 'evolutionary psychology' everytime we find a behaviour trait that's common in current society. Where i find a problem with Adam is that i think he's denying the fact that people are generally attracted to an athletic physique.
However, the bottom line is that we try to boil down a very complicated subject like sexual attraction in humans to a very simple theory of alphas and betas. But we've heard alpha and beta for so long from so many different sources that now we often vehemently oppose anyone who questions the legitimacy of that theory.
@@gabrielkage8991 I'm in total agreement with you here and basically had the same thought, only that you wrote it down lol
"Beta" is just a insult that is used as a stand in for the more accurate "idiot".
I love that he's got a B for Beta on his jacket.
The amount of comments still talking about alphas like they exist, it’s really funny lmao
Adam: Sean Hannity doesn’t believe in climate change.
Joe: he doesn’t?
Adam: I don’t know...
That sums up everything about Adam.
jason schifo underrated comment😂
Sean Hannity actually doesn't believe in climate change tho. And while Adam didn't know for sure (which is never 100% possible), it was a pretty safe assumption. He just changed it to an example of someone who's career had an emphasis on climate change above all else.
franklinbadge1215 actually hannity has admitted it is happening he just doesn't know if it's because of human impact. We don't have solid data to make a conclusion that it is directly because of human impact.
and your comment sums up everything about you
😂😂😂
Adam should have just left it as "The social construct of alpha and beta isn't based on science. Women are attracted to confidence, a trait often attributed to stronger men, but a physically weak, but smart man, confident in his field, would generate the same attractiveness". Instead he was just trying to argue physical features of both men and women we evolved to find attractive don't exist, is just absurd.
Exactly! 👍
the hourglass thing Joe speaking about is not an inherent evolutionary preference e.g. in ancient greece big boobs were considered fugly, there are some african tribes where long saggy tits are the shit, and somewhere on a planet there is a male beauty pageant where biggest dadbod wins all the pussy. and i bet throughout time there were lots of weird preferences coming and going like fashion, hell, even like 20 years ago no one (except black americans maybe, dunno) thought of big asses as hot, and now it's all about the hips, babe (or its just me getting older and attracted to milfs, lol)
Yup and the experiment is done on TH-cam. The difference between a couple thousand views to a couple million is a girl with nice tits on a thumbnail lmao
This
It really doesn’t exist though.
Take a shot every time AC says "right" ... i passed out after 40
I really appreciate how they had a disagreement. Then worked through it and found some common ground.
I've never seen a question answer itself in this type of fashion before.
DEADASS 🤣
This is a fire comment
Real alpha males don't have to tell people they're an alpha.
Could have cut this conversation short.
By the look of your picture, you a beta
Yes... other people identify you as alpha.
That's like saying the best athletes don't say they are. The greats say they are the greatest, same thing.
In the same way an alpha ain’t gotta brag on himself, if u an alpha, other ppl will brag on you for you.... that’s even biblical... don’t brag or boast on yoself!!! That’s super beta ish
It's funny that Adam mentions the backfire effect...
Joe: not every person is all of one thing. Some people are confident and anxious sometimes.
Adam standing up for his kind
These comments really show no mercy💀💀💀
And all the " alphas" are providing his point
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq beta
@@Poop43 nope. Just have common sense
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq if you had common sense you would realize that Joe constantly is debunking what adam is saying.
Me: why is everyone going off on this guy?
Me 3 mins in: oh.
He seriously went on a weird path defending his post. Yeah I agree "alpha" and "beta" are basic and false. But Joe is absolutely right about attraction.
@@Ubernaught012 Joe's only half right though. Society and media absolutely manipulate what we find attractive. You can Google a chart depicting Ideal Body Shapes throughout the ages. And wealth and social standing probably count for more now. If a woman had to choose between Joe Rogan or Jeff Bezos as a partner, Joe would be like "But wait! What about my muscles?! And my need to dominate others?! I'm so lonely!"
Cody bro stop if u look at the body shapes there pretty similar only thing that changed is white girls want a fat ass now lmaoooo
Yes after about three minutes of the nonsensical pseudoscience I’ve decided: “Comment section time!” 🦀
😂😂😂 I had the same reaction
He says that men are indoctrinated to what to be attracted to as a kid, and people like him also like to push these certain storytimes in schools and libraries.....
"I'm all about things that are non-intuitive."
Same here! I like this guy.
Joe Rogan is buying NONE of what Adam is saying on ANY subject lol
cuz Adam seem very emotionally invested in what hes preaching,
@Seth Watson That pretty much covers the regressive lefts position on anything.
Adam is right though, this Alpha beta ideology doesn't account for how humans ostracize overly dominant and demanding character traits as being anti-social.
Joe is mostly right about the hr glass figure being consistently the beauty standard, however different circumstances call for different beauty standards, in times of conflict, women with more masculine traits tend to be seen as more attractive, and there is a correlation between social class and male preferences for boob size and women's body fat percentage.
Your dominance changes all the time, go to the gym and you'll see people benching 100s of pounds, while you struggle with just benching the ba, then you go to work where your a mid tier manager. Adam is right but he's fucking terrible at defending his arguments
Also all the top tech companies of the world are run buy people with beta traits. Bill gates doesn't exactly exude dominance
@@Ozzyisunavailable adam isn't right at all. He tries to come at it from a "scientific" standpoint but most of the people i have heard talk about beta males and alpha malss say that it is sociological, meanwhile he is strawmanning the idea and arguing something that isn't being contested
Well he shouldn’t, Adam himself buys into that intersectional sudo science ideology, I liked some of his videos in the past but it’s clear that a lot of his videos are driven by ideology and not actual scientific and statistical facts, I’ve seen episodes where he makes massive statements based on race and completely ignores statistics probably because he doesn’t want to look racist 🤦🏻♂️
"Adam recites what he's told"
New season coming soon to buzzfeed
Adam McDonald fucking gold man
he's correct tho, he just can't articulate his words good enough
Why do I feel like a woman just told me what a man thinks.
this guy is the stereotypical hollywood, liberal, woke person.
Not really. I can tell you as a shy, introverted, non-atletic male that I've had plenty of women be attracted to me for those very reasons. I like Joe but he's WAY over simplifying it.
@@jeffstellarry7996 I agree , how about this athletic guy is at the music conservatory or the science fair your big muscles and over-attention to outward appearance aint going to cut it, in fact you might look stupid.
@@jeffstellarry7996 Im not knocking people for being shy and introverted. I can be that way as well. I just meant Adam is the typical hollywood liberal elite based on a lot of interviews Ive seen from him. and I prolly would look stupid at a science fair. Im kind of a dumbass but im not arrogant.
@@michaelspoto8720 Hey, it's cool, I'm not trying to be hostile to you in any way. However, dismissing him as a Hollywood elitist just seems inaccurate to me because his argument seems to have some scientific basis. Also,. much of what liberal Hollywood has to say is truthful and they get bashed for being outspoken about issues much of the media ignores. I'm not saying they're right about everything but they are unfairly criticized sometimes.
@@jeffstellarry7996 I don't know much about the topic of this particular clip so maybe there is science to back it up. I was speaking in a more broad sense. a lot of the things he says is just dumb. like we should put chemicals in kids bodies who identify as the opposite sex. I think that's "too woke" and actually dangerous. he almost is the typical stereotype that right wingers lump lefties as. Im sure he's a nice guy but that's how i feel.
Beta tries to convince himself he's not a beta by denying that betas even exist.
😂😂😂
true
The Alpha/Beta shit clearly doesn’t really understand women once they try to date women
everybody that says beta alpha is real is an incel
yes sure hierarchy exists but its nothing like ur alpha beta bullshit mentality
Colorized
take a shot for everytime he says "right?"
One thing that's always bothered me about alpha/beta deniers is that they always stick to the wolf comparison. "Well actually wolves organize into family units and the so-called 'alphas' are really the parents. Then the children move away and start their own packs and become their own alphas." Okay, sure. I question that declaration, but I won't argue with it. But do you know where you _can_ see a clear alpha/beta social structure? In our closest living relatives. Chimpanzee clans always have leaders and subordinates. That's an observed pattern. Why wouldn't we be like chimps?
1. It doesnt matter if you see a clear alpha/beta social structure in chimpanzees, do you see that social structure in humans?
2. You wanna know why we wouldn't be like chimps? Because our evolutionary lineages have diverged millions of years ago. Chimps have not made their own language and writing system, nation-states, or a rocket that can fly to the moon, so we can assume that there are some big differences between how our brains work.
Firstly it doesn’t matter if you “question that declaration” lol, it’s been proven false, and discredited by the scientist who originally posited the Alpha-male pack theory amongst wolves in the first place. It does not exist. Embrace it and move on.
Chimpanzees social hierarchies are complex and aren’t simply about who is the strongest and most aggressive. Some alphas maintain leadership via fostering alliances through grooming and other social interactions, they lead because they are the most intelligent, not simply because they have the biggest muscles or listen to the most podcasts. So we are just like our closest relatives, complex.
10:08
“When someone is told a fact that contradicts a really deeply held belief, it can cause them to disbelieve it, even if its true, and fight back even harder”
The lack of self awareness is incredible
Amazing. Great catch
Ahhahhhahaha thats hilarious
was th
inking exlacly the same when he talked about that
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture.
Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind.
The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me.
And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def,
Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp Buddy what are you on about? With your same logic what's stopping anyone from slitting the guy with a big brains throat when he's not looking? An alpha is just a social position held generally by attractive confident men who are fairly smart and they tend to "win" in social situations and attract more women as a result. You sound like you have some coping to do lol.
The dude is even wearing a “B” lmao
Hahahahahaahha
First thing I noticed lmao.
B for I’m a bitch and I disagree with anything that relates to what I really am
Savage, lol.
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I love how no one knows how Joe has been the anxious, nervous person before. Not the "manly man" he is now
Looks like Joe Rogan just alpha’d the shit out of this beta lmao
That’s funny coming from the 5’7 “alpha”
@@svnchezmedia Height doesn't have to do with anything. The mind is what counts.
Ehh the Adam guy is nerdy but you can't become an "alpha" by taking a bunch of TRT , HGH and anabolic steroids
Dank Frank you shallow bastard haha
The 5 foot 7 alpha that could kick you hard enough to kill you, you mean.
Saying “right” after every sentence doesn’t make you right 😂
A sign of insecurity--he's searching for affirmation of his ideas.
I read this comment like 2 minutes in and now I’m annoyed as crap...right?
I say “right” a lot but I mean it in more of like, you following? lol It’s a bad habit
It was driving me insane.
“right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” , GOD! This guy.
Never knew a guy could be so wrong when he says "right" all the time
He might not be good at sports, but hes a damn good Dungeons master
This week on Adam ruins everything Adam ruins his credibility
There wasn't much to ruin.
This is the funniest comment so far!
I watched this while deadlifting 600lbs and staring down a polar bear.
Alpha status certified
I'm laughing so hard I got in trouble at work fuck you. You God damn legend.
I haven't laughed at loud at a comment in weeks, Well Done World Champion.
Did you have a stick of dynamite for a snack? Lol
I don't believe you. Were you offered a refreshing Coca-Cola or no?
All the richest people, company CEOs would be athletic and ripped. In reality the garbage men are more likely to be athletic than CEOs.
Today on Joe Rogan, an alpha male interviews a beta male about, are they even real
The is the argument of a man who didn’t use his bullying as a kid to become better. He’s just tried to rationalize it.
This makes zero fucking sense lmao
@@berserk972 Bullying is a process of character development. You have to face your inadequacies in order to develop yourself as a better man (money, muscles, and courage). What someone like Adam would do is use rationalization in order to hide from their inadequacies rather than face them. This is the easy path of cowardice.
@@alexbarnes9364 People are always gonna have inadequacies stand out and adversity in life without bullies. Most people develop character If they have a bully as a kid or not. If anything you guys encouraging giving into bullies shows how little character you actually have.
Wtf dude! Are you seriously justifying bullying as character building and say rather than stand up to it or ignore you should look at your own inadequacies or you’re a coward!? I really hope you don’t have kids and if you don’t do us all favour and don’t have any 👍
@@TheLeeBonner Standing up to it is character development. as opposed to caving and cowering to the harrassment
Adam- "Women aren't hardwired to be attracted to strong muscular athletic men"
Me- "if you were a strong, muscular, athletic man, you wouldn't be saying that, guaranteed.
Andrew Spencer lmfao I don’t get what being hardwired has to do with this, it’s just preference everybody has different tastes
@Zephyr stfu ur literally a virgin
Zephyr is right! A woman will marry a beta, or a rich guy, because of security, but will be sexualy atracted to a masculine man, she might get pregnant with that guy, if are not on the pill, women tend to pick more masculine man...we tend to scan the body of a man in 60 seconds, and after we can sence his personal smell, we know if we want to have sex with him or not...the shoulder to hip ratio is important, the shape of the jaw line, the size of the hands and the teeth...
@Zephyr In the case of humans, this isn't always true though. That's why in the beginning of the video Adam said it's not a scientific statement. A scientific statement cannot be true if even 1 evidence is found contradictory regardless of how much supporting evidence you have. The fact that homosexuality exists contradicts that statement. The fact that some people are in love with people with disabilities/illnesses contradicts your statement. And so many more.
That statement is only 100% true to non-human species because unlike humans, those species are more simple and bounded by nature. Humans are very complex, free willed, and have consciousness.
Women seek the best genes to mate with.
“Women prefer tall confident athletic men”
Adam (short and fat): I don’t think that is particularly true..
Where is the full podcast guys?
“Vaccines were done as a topic” ohhhh April 2019 how naive you were
Came here to see if anyone else caught that 😂
Lol I laughed so hard at this
@Obnoxious Commenter living up to your name, eh?
@Obnoxious Commenter Fauci just said Fully vaccinated citizens might need a 3rd jab 😳
Anti vaxers aren't really a topic anymore. Now it's mainly a debate over the Covid vaccine
The B on his jacket is really ironic-considering the topic lol
that's what i thought when i saw it haha
ONNIT Portland 😂👌
I was just thinking that, then i read your comment..😂
It's kind of easy if you think about it, Joe Rogan. The ideas of beauty are put into our minds by media, commercials, advertisements for centuries. That's why we like a certain body type. You're a thinker think it out
Beta man
Challenge drink everytime he says “right”
If women love alphas and only want alphas, why are there so many betas?
adam closes the fridge with his hip
@Scratchy Boy I swear
What's that supposed to mean?
@@danielmaster8776 you know exactly what that means , bro
LOL
@@Dan_Kanerva No, I really don't. It's just one of many ways that someone can close a door...
@@danielmaster8776 oh i get it... you know what we talking about, you are just getting defensive because you probably do it too 😂
You know COVID-19 has gone to your head when you rewatch Adam Conover interviews.
Gate Lice facts
Gate Lice you ain’t lying.
Was thinking the same thing bud, had already watched this, yet some part of me just yearned to relive some sort of awkward social encounter...even from afar
You guys have strong stomachs.
I can hardly take my first gulp of this pond slime.
Gate Lice I’m a pothead and I’m the 420 like 🤙🏽
I have a friend like this, he disagrees with everything but never counterpoint with the core of what he’s disagreeing with. I think some people just like to disagree with people for the sake of it.
This dude is coping so hard. He's not tall dark or handsome so he's hell-bent on destroying that narrative. "Well I don't think that's true because it might not be" Nice logic, he was so convincing.
“He’s the alpha in his dungeons and dragons group” Adam is the only person ever in history to say that
It's true tho
Listen don't attack Dungeons & Dragons players. One is married to Sofia Vergara. She isn't as young as she use to be. But she still can melt a stick of butter in the middle of a blizzard by looking at it.
Ogre casts fire 2 at doubleo7 for questioning who runs this group...
@@jasonarce5169 no way?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂