Im here thinking how the fuck could he think this, being a man and all but, regardless of the sexual orientation but some men would cut off their dicks because they dont feel right and i would kill myself if i just woke up someday with suddenly peeing through a hole with not even having a tiny dick 😀 so i guess thats two entirely different type of genders not just a different man and not all women like the strong masculine tall mother fucker but that only happen after a horrible relationship with one, then she starts finding what she wants in a smart guy with no masculine side and she would be okay with it , heck, women could even date motherfuckin ugly guys, but for me i would never want to be an Adam typa man stuttering and saying something is not when it is actually is, look at these two men and ask men who would they want to be!
I mean if you put Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime in the room they would both look like beta males. I can agree with Adams point even if it’s poorly executed. I think even Rogan agreed with that part. Where Adam was insanely wrong if on the fact that men prefer women with hour-glass shaped women. They proved it with meta-data that included thousands of years of artworks from cultures all over that world that depicted the ideal women. Every time in every culture women with hour-glass shaped bodies were depicted.
Alpha and Beta doesn’t mean anything. I’m way bigger than both these men and probably more aggressive, but it’s possible to be a genetic Alpha and a financial Beta.
an alpha is something when something in their life is not satisfying them they work towards improving it. They are acutely aware that the time is now to fix the things that arent right in their lifes. a beta is someone who wallows in self-pity and blames the world when something in their life is unsatisfying, because its easier than working on yourself and admitting you have faults that must be fixed I don't know why people overcomplicate it by adding dating dynamics towards it.
Playing dungeons and dragons is a all round work out for him.... Guess you never rolled a 36 sided dice until drop drown from too much exercise to get the perfect beta male body
@@eaStudioHD I don't know what Rich did so I am not going to get him and if he is working out in the gym he could be dangerous unless he drinks soya milk
@@eaStudioHD How about both, you fool? Plenty of rich people go to the gym, in fact most of them do. It's the smart thing to do. How about quit making excuses and improve yourself?
It's true that it depends. There is confident and comfortable people that are total idiots, that attract women in contexts that favors it. A professional athlete can't attract the same amount of women for example in a Justin Bieber concert or an American Football concert
The point he was making is everyone is confident and comfortable in one thing and not in another. The "Alpha" football jock in high school would probably be a "Beta" to the captain of the chess club if they were playing chess and vice versa. And so the girls in the chess club would probably be more attracted to chess nerd and see HIM as the "alpha" while the girls who like football players would be more attracted to the other. Humans too damn complex to fall into all encompassing categories my dude.
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture. Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind. The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me. And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def, Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp You forgot to put the money and fame into the equation... Nobody cares if the male is smart or dumb if he has 100 mil deposited in his bank account (In the case of the manlet Joe) and he is famous
This WHOLE video comes down to THIS - the alpha stays calm, confident and letting the other speak while the beta is emotional, all over the place and talks fast to seem more confident and knowledgeable.
Adam should have just left it as "The social construct of alpha and beta isn't based on science. Women are attracted to confidence, a trait often attributed to stronger men, but a physically weak, but smart man, confident in his field, would generate the same attractiveness". Instead he was just trying to argue physical features of both men and women we evolved to find attractive don't exist, is just absurd.
the hourglass thing Joe speaking about is not an inherent evolutionary preference e.g. in ancient greece big boobs were considered fugly, there are some african tribes where long saggy tits are the shit, and somewhere on a planet there is a male beauty pageant where biggest dadbod wins all the pussy. and i bet throughout time there were lots of weird preferences coming and going like fashion, hell, even like 20 years ago no one (except black americans maybe, dunno) thought of big asses as hot, and now it's all about the hips, babe (or its just me getting older and attracted to milfs, lol)
Yup and the experiment is done on TH-cam. The difference between a couple thousand views to a couple million is a girl with nice tits on a thumbnail lmao
He seriously went on a weird path defending his post. Yeah I agree "alpha" and "beta" are basic and false. But Joe is absolutely right about attraction.
@@Ubernaught012 Joe's only half right though. Society and media absolutely manipulate what we find attractive. You can Google a chart depicting Ideal Body Shapes throughout the ages. And wealth and social standing probably count for more now. If a woman had to choose between Joe Rogan or Jeff Bezos as a partner, Joe would be like "But wait! What about my muscles?! And my need to dominate others?! I'm so lonely!"
@@DaniilShevelev Adam didn't make any points. He kept making absurd assertions then tried to run with them. Joe only challenged his nonsense. He tried to claim women wouldn't find an athletic man attractive. Yeah, watch how women react when they see an athletic man & tell me he's not full of shit.
Both men made some interesting points. I don't completely agree or disagree with either of them and i have a few reasons for that. While i do agree with Joe that men and women are attracted to a certain body type, i don't think that's set in stone for every member of the species. An athletic build is attractive to almost every human, but there are exceptions. Where i have a problem with Joe is that i think he can't see past that. That athletic physique will get you noticed but there's a lot more to attraction than just physique, i.e. intellect, social skills, etc. I agree with Adam when he says we cannot just say 'evolutionary psychology' everytime we find a behaviour trait that's common in current society. Where i find a problem with Adam is that i think he's denying the fact that people are generally attracted to an athletic physique. However, the bottom line is that we try to boil down a very complicated subject like sexual attraction in humans to a very simple theory of alphas and betas. But we've heard alpha and beta for so long from so many different sources that now we often vehemently oppose anyone who questions the legitimacy of that theory.
You're a beta, confirmed. He just waffled baseless claims that there is actual scientific research and consensus on that contradict his view 😂@@fleebertreatise1063
@@FostuRKid He was saying that people who believed in Alphas and Betas in human society are backed by bad science. This bad science justifies their untrue beliefs of there being a social heirarchy. Bad science also justified slavery. Science at one time said that black people were less than white people and genetically inferior so them being slaves wasn't bad. They were made to be servants. Again, this bad science justified racist ideas.
@@chawiwawie "being in good shape and confident generally makes people more attractive." "AND THAT'S WHY AFRICAN SLAVERY HAPPENED!" Wait, what? One is an observance of the general population's tendencies to sexual attractiveness and the other was bullshit propaganda to gain forced cheap labor. There is almost no smooth transition from one to the other. Its just pointless straw man arguments. Why make it racial? Adam is a moron.
Sean Hannity actually doesn't believe in climate change tho. And while Adam didn't know for sure (which is never 100% possible), it was a pretty safe assumption. He just changed it to an example of someone who's career had an emphasis on climate change above all else.
franklinbadge1215 actually hannity has admitted it is happening he just doesn't know if it's because of human impact. We don't have solid data to make a conclusion that it is directly because of human impact.
I don’t think introvert belongs on the negative list. Obama is an introvert. Tom Hanks is an introvert. Just to name a couple of famous people. Also, introvert and shy are two different traits. There are introverts who are not shy.
@@MovieGuy666 There's a major flaw in that thought process: There are far more athletes than there are boy bands. Numerically, athleticism far outshines anything else in terms of female attraction.
@@MovieGuy666 Fame and Money are up there 2, but the one thing these things have in common are that they all allow, the man to exhibit power over others.
Adam is right though, this Alpha beta ideology doesn't account for how humans ostracize overly dominant and demanding character traits as being anti-social. Joe is mostly right about the hr glass figure being consistently the beauty standard, however different circumstances call for different beauty standards, in times of conflict, women with more masculine traits tend to be seen as more attractive, and there is a correlation between social class and male preferences for boob size and women's body fat percentage. Your dominance changes all the time, go to the gym and you'll see people benching 100s of pounds, while you struggle with just benching the ba, then you go to work where your a mid tier manager. Adam is right but he's fucking terrible at defending his arguments Also all the top tech companies of the world are run buy people with beta traits. Bill gates doesn't exactly exude dominance
@@Ozzyisunavailable adam isn't right at all. He tries to come at it from a "scientific" standpoint but most of the people i have heard talk about beta males and alpha malss say that it is sociological, meanwhile he is strawmanning the idea and arguing something that isn't being contested
Well he shouldn’t, Adam himself buys into that intersectional sudo science ideology, I liked some of his videos in the past but it’s clear that a lot of his videos are driven by ideology and not actual scientific and statistical facts, I’ve seen episodes where he makes massive statements based on race and completely ignores statistics probably because he doesn’t want to look racist 🤦🏻♂️
I spent my 20s as an introverted, socially awkward geeky type. I quit smoking at 29, moved halfway across the country, kick started my career, and got in the best physical shape of my life at 35. I start earning 6 figures at 38. Even if Alpha and Beta designations were scientifically applicable to humans (they are not), the designations were never applicable for life. I've seen plenty of women who were fine af in high school wind up fat af by 35. Life circumstances (and classifications) are a reflection of choices, environment, & genetics.
An alpha is the leader of any given social hierarchy. It's dependent on context and therefore the fact that it changes over time or the social group one is in is not an argument against its existence in humans. I really don't get people's twisting logic into pretzels to deny the fact that leaders, dominant people, apexes, heads, alphas, (or whatever word one uses) undeniablly exist within groups of humans.
@ranman7688 I never denied that leadership exists in personal or professional hierarchies. I simply state that the term "alpha" should never have been applied because the scientist who originally coined the term and applied it to wolf interactions later in his life realized and admitted that his conclusions were erroneous due to his observation subjects being wolves in captivity. There are, in the wild, in the real world, no alpha wolves. So, again, restate it makes zero sense to apply that specific term to any human interactions. The connotation of the word "alpha" is false because it is based on observation of an unnatural, controlled environment wherein the wolves were effectively forced into their hierarchies.
10:08 “When someone is told a fact that contradicts a really deeply held belief, it can cause them to disbelieve it, even if its true, and fight back even harder” The lack of self awareness is incredible
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture. Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind. The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me. And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def, Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp Buddy what are you on about? With your same logic what's stopping anyone from slitting the guy with a big brains throat when he's not looking? An alpha is just a social position held generally by attractive confident men who are fairly smart and they tend to "win" in social situations and attract more women as a result. You sound like you have some coping to do lol.
Like the perfect woman 100 years ago would be too chubby for the standard of today, and I mean TOO chubby. The antopologic truth is that homo sapiens evolved to life in society by killing the alpha males in the groups, hence broading the collaboration to live in bigger tribes and then nation.
@@berserk972 Bullying is a process of character development. You have to face your inadequacies in order to develop yourself as a better man (money, muscles, and courage). What someone like Adam would do is use rationalization in order to hide from their inadequacies rather than face them. This is the easy path of cowardice.
@@alexbarnes9364 People are always gonna have inadequacies stand out and adversity in life without bullies. Most people develop character If they have a bully as a kid or not. If anything you guys encouraging giving into bullies shows how little character you actually have.
Wtf dude! Are you seriously justifying bullying as character building and say rather than stand up to it or ignore you should look at your own inadequacies or you’re a coward!? I really hope you don’t have kids and if you don’t do us all favour and don’t have any 👍
@@jonathanmosher72 Seems more like Adam was trying to make a moot point (Science says there's no Alpha's/Beta's, he literally basing this on the work of a wolf expert) while Joe was not being scientific but simply stating that everyone sort of knows who's an Alpha/Beta in the context that it's commonly used. The thing is that the way it's commonly used does not literally mean Alpha/Beta as it does in the animal kingdom, it's more of an indication of assertiveness/dominance.
@@jellevanelten1483 Actually, Joe is totally trying to use it in a scientific way. He was trying to point out that from an evolutionary standpoint woman are attracted to confident muscular men. Adam was saying in a painful ignorant way it's not. I've taken evolutionary biology of primates. In history and in modern Neolithic tribalism, there wasn't an Alpha/Beta hierarchy of breeding. That's what Alpha/Beta actually means. Most Neolithic tribes were monogamous, which goes against the Alpha/Beta relationship. Assertiveness and dominance aren't positive traits in themselves without intelligence. Many idiots are both and end up in prison and are labeled "unfuckables"
@@jonathanmosher72 I suppose you're right in saying that Joe was indeed trying to be scientific when he tried to pin sexual attraction on established biology. My point was only on the existence of what society sees as an Alpha or Beta human man and how this is almost exactly how Joe describes it. That's not grounded science and quite subjective but it exists in that sense. And by itself is not a value judgement in any way.
It's kind of easy if you think about it, Joe Rogan. The ideas of beauty are put into our minds by media, commercials, advertisements for centuries. That's why we like a certain body type. You're a thinker think it out
In the same way an alpha ain’t gotta brag on himself, if u an alpha, other ppl will brag on you for you.... that’s even biblical... don’t brag or boast on yoself!!! That’s super beta ish
He'd be telling Joe, and any attractive ladies out there who might be listening, that "Science" has proven women are attracted to short nerdy chubby guys with glasses if he thought he could get away with it without be laughed at.
2:54 "Women are hardwired to be attracted to confident athletic men" (Says the confident athletic man with a family) "I-I-I don't know if I agree with that" (Says the childless beta male)
this is why you see so many battered divorced unhappy decent women who WISH they had married a good moral humble man because they thought their little arrogant dipshit loser "alpha male" was confident when in reality he was an insecure piece of garbage. When will you ladies ever learn ?
As a woman, I don't think women are hardwired necessarily to be attracted to a confident athletic man. Our sexual preference is more flexible because of our role as a mate. Females as the weaker sex and nurturer of offspring have needed to look for a mate that can provide security for offspring and protection even from rape by undesirable mates. So having children with a geneticly healthy male would not be enough to ensure survival of those children. A provider mate might be more necessary based on environment. I think that's why so many women are sexually attracted to rich or powerful men rather than buff dudes. Providers also aren't necessarily confident alphas. But yea the same can't be said for men.
@@RequiemOfSolo 138 IQ here buddy whats yours dumbass ? You know youre a PRIME EXAMPLE of the arrogant clueless douchebag that im talking about Im 46 been around the block and back again Ive seen it all before many times .Im correct in what I say. Sorry you dont like it little boy .When you grow up you will understand . ARE YOU OK ? IDIOT
Probably came in expecting to blow Joe away with all his "facts" but he seems like the type of person who only looks for the answers he's looking for and doesn't look at both sides
Ancient Mysteries & Modern Innovations Ok, but Adam is right here. He’s been right about most of his stances. It’s the topic of transgenderism alone where he sort of embarrassed himself by preferring to advocate for what _feels_ less mean than what’s most logical. But when it comes to this topic he’s right, and it’s true that there really are no such things as alpha and beta males irl for humans. We males and females alike are all just complex and varying humans. Humans are all so different. To keep it on-topic, males specifically are all so different with differing strengths and talents. I mean when you ask men and boys what’s “alpha,” the answers are so different and inconsistent... and a bit childish tbh. The concept itself is pretty childish and not very logical.
@@AddBowIfGirl theres clearly hierarchies within humankind.it varies depending on what that particular hierarchy is.your boss is the alpha at your workplace,but you could be the alpha outside of work within your social circle
As a woman, I am attracted to strong, conservative minded men. I want someone who wants me to be a strong, feminine woman. Old school values, without control struggles. It has more to do with mindset and a sense of balance. I want a mentally balanced man.
Women are attracted to confidence and strength, timidness and weakness aren't attractive at all. To men those things barely make a difference. Adam desperately wants attraction to be equal across sexes.
As a woman, I am not attracted to that and love the thoght of an equal parter who'll take care of half the housechores gladly because that's the type of relationship they want. Who likes my food and isn't on some extream diet bc I am one of the people (who men and woman do that) love cooking. I like cuddeling and idk if you've noticed some body fat is way more cozy. And all of that dosn't really matter bc I still fell in love w a men I was writing w on the interent who I had no idea how he lookes or anything, just that he's smart and attentive and in some strange way saw some things like me that made me feel seen. What's to say Aplha males are so much fucking bs
@hyeboi Being 5'7 is a small sacrifice for being confident enough to be a top commentator, knowing how to fight, being in shape, generally does not stutter, etc.
I can't help but feel that the view of no such thing as Beta and Alpha, is just another part of our modern way of thinking, when we're trying so hard not to hurt anyone's feelings. There may not be strict Alphas and Betas, but there certainly are more dominant individuals and more submissive ones. That's not a bad thing, it just is. To argue against that makes one sound ignorant of reality.
That's exactly what they are both saying - scientifically there's no such thing as alpha and beta males in the evolutionary hierarchy of humans, but they both agree that more dominant and more submissive individuals exist. However, Adam is also making the point that if you change the environment that those individuals are in, then that may have a dramatic effect on those individuals' dominance and confidence. He doesn't articulate it well, but I get the point he is making.
Was thinking the same thing bud, had already watched this, yet some part of me just yearned to relive some sort of awkward social encounter...even from afar
Listen don't attack Dungeons & Dragons players. One is married to Sofia Vergara. She isn't as young as she use to be. But she still can melt a stick of butter in the middle of a blizzard by looking at it.
Joe didn’t point out the fact that Adam’s assertion that people are only attracted to what they’re attracted to based on what they were told to be attracted to and that could be changed with social hardwiring is exactly like saying that homosexuality is a choice that could be changed with different influence
Yeah, I do, last time I checked you wing a debate by making sense, not by being confident nor aggressive. 1:49 Aggressive males will always be that and social introvert will always be that? Hahahahahaha, so people don't change?
Zidneya I think he was trying to say that it is who that person is over a multitude of situations or scenarios. Not over the course of their life or that they cant ever change.
@@chrisa1155 Last time I checked a lifetime it's a multitude of situations or scenarios. And by changing you also change how you experience and interact with them. It's called transition, oh but in that dumb's mind, changing? Nah an agresive will always be aggressive and introverts will always be introverts (his words not mine) hahaha, yeah it's not like we live in a world were people either explode over frustration or lose aggressiveness due to traumas, right? oh wait, we do haha.
@@zidneya Obviously people can change, but that's not the point. You can change from being shy and weak (beta) to being brave and strong (alpha), but alphas and betas still exist dude.
@@leeham6230 Last time I checked there are no alphas nor betas since popularity is a social construct. What you call an alpha here is a beta in China and vice-versa. Hahahaha, 🤣 douchebags always seek something to feel superior , money, wealth, religion, country, looks, race, gender, etc. this alpha and beta crap is just a list of excuses in a looooooong list of excuses. You think Joe is an alpha? Doesn't by that make you his bi**h, or as you call it, his beta? Hahahaha.
@@Nibs333 bro anybody can seem smart if they do what adam does on his show just read a script given to u by ur nerd puppets however a lot of ppl can’t seem smart and logical when ur actually in a conversation and arguing with someone that shows who’s really smart or just a complete beta male like Adam
Yup Adam is the epitome of the term "confirmation bias". But I'm not gonna lie, a lot of people use confirmation bias to support their reasoning. But even if one were to use confirmation bias, Adam's ideas are just so bad like both in theory and in practice, what a terrible guy, he's not reaching for progressivity he's trying to exponentially change our lifestyles into a monotonic idea where we must think and act a certain way. Which by the way is impossible, next thing he might be is pro-eugenics so we can all share the same hereditary traits and get along with one another. Dude's got a serious problem.
7:20 Jeremy pulls up article supporting Adam but joe is quick to dismiss cause his build his life to be an alpha like Adam is trying to explain. I notice joe comes off self righteous not just in this podcast.
@@h3ll0124 I mean it was an article in the Huffington post talking about "dad bods" not a scientific journal?? Sounds more like a clickbait article to me
@Ciaran Rooney No, he isn't.. Culture can modify biological attraction, but it's always present to some extent. The hourglass figure is a universal thing, and certain cultural pressures changed that for a time. You have the situation backwards. You start with the biological norms and then culture comes in later to modify it.
Any alpha automatically become beta in presence of hierarchically higher individual. Would Joe be an alpha in presence of President of USA? He is not an alpha even in presence of Dana White.
He says that men are indoctrinated to what to be attracted to as a kid, and people like him also like to push these certain storytimes in schools and libraries.....
People are not attracted to the sports stars simply because they're in good shape it has a lot more to do with them being popular famous and rich as well. Many farmers are in phenomenal shape but you don't see the women lining up
I get Adam's point. A jock could be a beta when he's on a science class with the nerd being the alpha. However, in this particular interview, Adam is definitely a beta.
Yeah but the point is that the alpha will be (most of the time, and not in all situations) successful on life and the beta wont. In women, career, socially and most other things.
@Prince of Logic And Adam has had a fairly successful career doing his style of comedy. You also wouldn't know the other depending on what interests you have. Which is one of the points Adam makes. No one is confident and charismatic in every situation. If Joe was at some kind of science conference, he wouldn't be able to rise to the top of that social hierarchy because he doesn't have the clout or background necessary. He might be able to have conversations on an individual basis, but that would be about it.
Thats exactly what i was thinking, because he switches the topic pretty fast or picks examples which arent really related to the point joe was trying to make. Also i cant follow where he is going .... that dude is really a bad guest to listen to.
@@sd-xx8ep I wouldnt call him dumb, but he isnt actually smart, because smart people know how to debate. Thats what they do every day to improve themselves and also conquer their own intellect. But as a viewer/listener that guy isnt a good guest, that was my point. And its probably even less smart to actually go into a confrontation about a topic that you cant handle that well OR you are not capable of backing up your statements with actual facts, so even for the fact that the guy might be a comedian he isnt acting smart in this video.
The confirmation bias and the beliefs that form ones identity is an interesting topic especially when it comes to science. As recent years have shown, that creeps into what we once though was an unbiased, facts-based area and has made us all skeptical of how unbiased and trustworthy many people in the scientific community truly are.
Well joe is really smart about a lot of shit whether you normally think so or not soooooo but ya it seems like Adam disagrees with anything joe says just for the sake of disagreeing and doesn't put any thought as to what hes disagreeing to if that's what you ment
Lmao the whole video I'm like how doesn't this dude realize he's living in a real life example of an alpha vs beta. Joe had to have had that thought cross his mind.
Adam- "Women aren't hardwired to be attracted to strong muscular athletic men" Me- "if you were a strong, muscular, athletic man, you wouldn't be saying that, guaranteed.
Zephyr is right! A woman will marry a beta, or a rich guy, because of security, but will be sexualy atracted to a masculine man, she might get pregnant with that guy, if are not on the pill, women tend to pick more masculine man...we tend to scan the body of a man in 60 seconds, and after we can sence his personal smell, we know if we want to have sex with him or not...the shoulder to hip ratio is important, the shape of the jaw line, the size of the hands and the teeth...
@Zephyr In the case of humans, this isn't always true though. That's why in the beginning of the video Adam said it's not a scientific statement. A scientific statement cannot be true if even 1 evidence is found contradictory regardless of how much supporting evidence you have. The fact that homosexuality exists contradicts that statement. The fact that some people are in love with people with disabilities/illnesses contradicts your statement. And so many more. That statement is only 100% true to non-human species because unlike humans, those species are more simple and bounded by nature. Humans are very complex, free willed, and have consciousness.
@@0Scoops lol that's that fun little reverse psychology that weenies use to make themselves feel better "That guy's driving a huge truck because his dick's small"
I mean I think it’s all just generalizations. Different people have different preferences for who they are attracted to, there’s no set criteria for all men or all women, but there are almost certainly some preferences that are more common than others, but it doesn’t really make sense to debate the matter without pulling up statistics. Only statistics could resolve this debate, otherwise it’s just a matter of speculation and personal anecdote.
Hes literally wearing a b
lmao B for Beta
xD
LOOOOL!
Thanks for pointing this out. Hilarious😂
And a is for apple
If only joe had an A on his shirt.....
I think Harvard is the right place for you
Joe doesn't need it. You can just look at him and tell.
Well you can't spell TEAM without A
auschwitz oktoberfest he has many options good choice
Yes!!!
This man has an uncanny talent to convince me the opposite of what he wants me to think.
XD
well said sir.
Im here thinking how the fuck could he think this, being a man and all but, regardless of the sexual orientation but some men would cut off their dicks because they dont feel right and i would kill myself if i just woke up someday with suddenly peeing through a hole with not even having a tiny dick 😀 so i guess thats two entirely different type of genders not just a different man and not all women like the strong masculine tall mother fucker but that only happen after a horrible relationship with one, then she starts finding what she wants in a smart guy with no masculine side and she would be okay with it , heck, women could even date motherfuckin ugly guys, but for me i would never want to be an Adam typa man stuttering and saying something is not when it is actually is, look at these two men and ask men who would they want to be!
Marwan elkady it depends on the person; the guy that’s considered ugly is likely to get a girl that’s considered the same.
Witch one?
Having Joe and this guy in the same room literally proves that there are alphas and betas 😂😂
🤣🤣
I so wanted to like this comment, if only you'd left out "literally"
@@mtthwpnnthat's actually good use of the word in this day in age. It literally proves it. Maybe somewhat redundant but not incorrect.
Get a grip. Seriously.
I mean if you put Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime in the room they would both look like beta males. I can agree with Adams point even if it’s poorly executed. I think even Rogan agreed with that part. Where Adam was insanely wrong if on the fact that men prefer women with hour-glass shaped women. They proved it with meta-data that included thousands of years of artworks from cultures all over that world that depicted the ideal women. Every time in every culture women with hour-glass shaped bodies were depicted.
Adam Conover just convinced me there are definitely Alphas and Betas.
5am in Detroit im on the same shit
Only Betas would deny they exist 🤣
Alpha and Beta doesn’t mean anything. I’m way bigger than both these men and probably more aggressive, but it’s possible to be a genetic Alpha and a financial Beta.
😂😂
@@darylpettiford4900 omg that's great!
I love the fact he has a giant red B on his chest
Omg 😂
B for bitch
rush b cyka Or beta?
🅱️ E T A
B for beta bitch lol
As a woman, I can scientifically say that Adam made my uterus dry up and turn to dust.
Lmfao
You are definitely not the one who was into studies. Maybe ask a different woman?
why do men pretend to be women lol
Adam is the reason girls have to poop.
@@amireghbal9892 holy shit..
I used to not believe in the alpha, beta, sigma male theory but Adam made me a firm believer, thanks Adam!
an alpha is something when something in their life is not satisfying them they work towards improving it. They are acutely aware that the time is now to fix the things that arent right in their lifes.
a beta is someone who wallows in self-pity and blames the world when something in their life is unsatisfying, because its easier than working on yourself and admitting you have faults that must be fixed
I don't know why people overcomplicate it by adding dating dynamics towards it.
@@germangonzales2008 so an alpha is a functioning adult and a beta is a man child basically
There's no sigma male. Sigma male is a new theory. Alpha males don't care what any body thinks.
This is the most articulated way to avoid going to the gym ever.
Playing dungeons and dragons is a all round work out for him.... Guess you never rolled a 36 sided dice until drop drown from too much exercise to get the perfect beta male body
How about spending time to get rich rather than going to gym you fool
@@eaStudioHD I don't know what Rich did so I am not going to get him and if he is working out in the gym he could be dangerous unless he drinks soya milk
Yea bro lift weights bro
@@eaStudioHD How about both, you fool? Plenty of rich people go to the gym, in fact most of them do. It's the smart thing to do. How about quit making excuses and improve yourself?
"Women are attracted to men who are confident and comfortable"
"no"
It's true that it depends. There is confident and comfortable people that are total idiots, that attract women in contexts that favors it. A professional athlete can't attract the same amount of women for example in a Justin Bieber concert or an American Football concert
But it's also true that Adam Conover is an imbecile
“eh that’s not quite the case”
@@brutanedda3107 What the fuck did you just say?
The point he was making is everyone is confident and comfortable in one thing and not in another. The "Alpha" football jock in high school would probably be a "Beta" to the captain of the chess club if they were playing chess and vice versa. And so the girls in the chess club would probably be more attracted to chess nerd and see HIM as the "alpha" while the girls who like football players would be more attracted to the other. Humans too damn complex to fall into all encompassing categories my dude.
“Vaccines were done as a topic” ohhhh April 2019 how naive you were
Came here to see if anyone else caught that 😂
Lol I laughed so hard at this
@Obnoxious Commenter living up to your name, eh?
@Obnoxious Commenter Fauci just said Fully vaccinated citizens might need a 3rd jab 😳
Anti vaxers aren't really a topic anymore. Now it's mainly a debate over the Covid vaccine
He actually brought up slavery to justify why women prefer other men over him
Really?
Joe not getting angry throughout this interview was the most alpha thing ever
Patience goals
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture.
Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind.
The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me.
And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def,
Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp You forgot to put the money and fame into the equation... Nobody cares if the male is smart or dumb if he has 100 mil deposited in his bank account (In the case of the manlet Joe) and he is famous
This WHOLE video comes down to THIS - the alpha stays calm, confident and letting the other speak while the beta is emotional, all over the place and talks fast to seem more confident and knowledgeable.
@@rpvenomrp any animal even animals with clear alphas can be killed in their sleep, that point doesn’t mean anything
Adam should have just left it as "The social construct of alpha and beta isn't based on science. Women are attracted to confidence, a trait often attributed to stronger men, but a physically weak, but smart man, confident in his field, would generate the same attractiveness". Instead he was just trying to argue physical features of both men and women we evolved to find attractive don't exist, is just absurd.
Exactly! 👍
the hourglass thing Joe speaking about is not an inherent evolutionary preference e.g. in ancient greece big boobs were considered fugly, there are some african tribes where long saggy tits are the shit, and somewhere on a planet there is a male beauty pageant where biggest dadbod wins all the pussy. and i bet throughout time there were lots of weird preferences coming and going like fashion, hell, even like 20 years ago no one (except black americans maybe, dunno) thought of big asses as hot, and now it's all about the hips, babe (or its just me getting older and attracted to milfs, lol)
Yup and the experiment is done on TH-cam. The difference between a couple thousand views to a couple million is a girl with nice tits on a thumbnail lmao
This
It really doesn’t exist though.
I literally only clicked on this video to read the comments. Y'all did not disappoint, thank you!
Hahahahaha
Same here
glad your wife's boyfriend let you read the comments. 😂
They are hilarious. I'm amazed at how many people commented without waiting for the last 90 seconds where Joe ends up agreeing with him.
Same! Not disappointed.
"Are alpha males and beta males real?"
Well they're talking to each other now
Me: why is everyone going off on this guy?
Me 3 mins in: oh.
He seriously went on a weird path defending his post. Yeah I agree "alpha" and "beta" are basic and false. But Joe is absolutely right about attraction.
@@Ubernaught012 Joe's only half right though. Society and media absolutely manipulate what we find attractive. You can Google a chart depicting Ideal Body Shapes throughout the ages. And wealth and social standing probably count for more now. If a woman had to choose between Joe Rogan or Jeff Bezos as a partner, Joe would be like "But wait! What about my muscles?! And my need to dominate others?! I'm so lonely!"
Cody bro stop if u look at the body shapes there pretty similar only thing that changed is white girls want a fat ass now lmaoooo
Yes after about three minutes of the nonsensical pseudoscience I’ve decided: “Comment section time!” 🦀
😂😂😂 I had the same reaction
The virgin high school quarterback vs. the Chad dungeon master
Lol
Underrated comment
Lmaoooo it be like that sometimes
Imagine all the hoops you got to go through so the alpha nerd wins the game but the beta quarterback fucked all the girls in your group. Lmao
@@Richard-Ikerd yeah that's the problem with videogames, feel like you are an alpha but just for nerds lol
Adam : no such thing as alpha and beta. People get upset when you tell them that.
Comment section : he's obviously a beta.
100%
Joe did not help this either by constantly interrupting and not letting Adam finish making his points.
@@DaniilShevelev Adam didn't make any points. He kept making absurd assertions then tried to run with them. Joe only challenged his nonsense. He tried to claim women wouldn't find an athletic man attractive. Yeah, watch how women react when they see an athletic man & tell me he's not full of shit.
Both men made some interesting points. I don't completely agree or disagree with either of them and i have a few reasons for that. While i do agree with Joe that men and women are attracted to a certain body type, i don't think that's set in stone for every member of the species. An athletic build is attractive to almost every human, but there are exceptions. Where i have a problem with Joe is that i think he can't see past that. That athletic physique will get you noticed but there's a lot more to attraction than just physique, i.e. intellect, social skills, etc. I agree with Adam when he says we cannot just say 'evolutionary psychology' everytime we find a behaviour trait that's common in current society. Where i find a problem with Adam is that i think he's denying the fact that people are generally attracted to an athletic physique.
However, the bottom line is that we try to boil down a very complicated subject like sexual attraction in humans to a very simple theory of alphas and betas. But we've heard alpha and beta for so long from so many different sources that now we often vehemently oppose anyone who questions the legitimacy of that theory.
@@gabrielkage8991 I'm in total agreement with you here and basically had the same thought, only that you wrote it down lol
"Beta" is just a insult that is used as a stand in for the more accurate "idiot".
I don't have words for how Joe Rogan politely dealt with this. I wish i have an attitude like that.
Saw video title. Then went straight to comment section for the "Alpha Joe vs. Beta Adam" comments.
#metoo
Adam really is beta
You deserve a beer
Adam is gay AF
Same
"Adam recites what he's told"
New season coming soon to buzzfeed
Adam McDonald fucking gold man
you mean like Joe does?
This podcast is a Chad vs Virgin meme come to life
How is Adam so wrong on literally every topic they covered in this episode. It's truly astounding.
You should listen to his podcast 😅
Except he wasn’t, and barely anyone even attempts to argue one of his points in the video. And Joe Rogan just sidesteps them
You're a beta, confirmed. He just waffled baseless claims that there is actual scientific research and consensus on that contradict his view 😂@@fleebertreatise1063
Adam is that friend, that your girlfriend has that you don’t worry about 😂
@D.A. Productions na man eventually she crosses the wrong guy that will put her on the street for the whore she is
@@JJ-hs3fy 😂😂😂😂 the most desperate attempt at being a troll I've ever seen. Keep it moving Mr. Beta.
Mauricio Escobar she goes on about how he’s such a brother to her.
Which is what an ideal relationship should be
Lol
...I can't even like this comment...it's at 420...RIP Bob Marley
He's just mad his wife's boyfriend won't let him use the xbox
*Nintendo Switch
"My wife said it's my turn on the xbox".
Wife's bf has let him hold a broken controller so he can pretend he's playing the game too 😢
Fucking hilarious.
I literally just laughed so fucking hard at this.
Adam started as a Beta and finished as a Gamma
Underrated comment.
This made me laugh out loud.
Good shit 🏆
More like ended as an Omega....
😆
What we know about Adam:
1. He has lots of trans friends
2. He knows experts
3. He is not an expert on anything
Adam ruins everything. Especially his credibility.
Nicely done.
999th like 😪 so close
1000th like...i got you bro
Filip Miljak goat
Adam: Makes declarative statement
Joe: Questions a little
Adam: Falls apart and attempts to bring in slavery
Ahahahha
How? It tied his argument pretty well.
Cristian Avila slavery for “evolutionary” purposes vs. body types for “evolutionary” purposes is not anywhere near tying together
@@FostuRKid He was saying that people who believed in Alphas and Betas in human society are backed by bad science. This bad science justifies their untrue beliefs of there being a social heirarchy. Bad science also justified slavery. Science at one time said that black people were less than white people and genetically inferior so them being slaves wasn't bad. They were made to be servants. Again, this bad science justified racist ideas.
@@chawiwawie "being in good shape and confident generally makes people more attractive." "AND THAT'S WHY AFRICAN SLAVERY HAPPENED!" Wait, what? One is an observance of the general population's tendencies to sexual attractiveness and the other was bullshit propaganda to gain forced cheap labor. There is almost no smooth transition from one to the other. Its just pointless straw man arguments. Why make it racial? Adam is a moron.
Adam: Sean Hannity doesn’t believe in climate change.
Joe: he doesn’t?
Adam: I don’t know...
That sums up everything about Adam.
jason schifo underrated comment😂
Sean Hannity actually doesn't believe in climate change tho. And while Adam didn't know for sure (which is never 100% possible), it was a pretty safe assumption. He just changed it to an example of someone who's career had an emphasis on climate change above all else.
franklinbadge1215 actually hannity has admitted it is happening he just doesn't know if it's because of human impact. We don't have solid data to make a conclusion that it is directly because of human impact.
and your comment sums up everything about you
😂😂😂
The utter lack of self awareness at 10:40 is astounding
Joe Talks about body shape
Adam. WELL. Slavery ....
Idk why he has Adam on and not Eddie Bravo..... Look into it.
@@nicolausteslaus he ruins all the fun
Damn, that what I was thinking what race has to do with anything. Dude thought Joe was going to change the subjects. Lol
Slavery had a lot to do with body shaped. Black people were bred with one another sadly
So that still doesn't explain a Joel Embide or Yiannis in the NBA. You just don't know shit.
If I have learned anything observing the JRE comment sections, it's that Joe Rogan's viewers are all poon-slaying alpha males
No some are and some are not and know men who are so both groups know its true
@@rastamandela981 BETA!
@@tsu9788 ok
most seem to be emotional beta males who are very offended for some reason 😂
Bwahahaha
He should share this vital info with his wife's boyfriend
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
LMAO
his wife boyfriend sleeps in his bed and he sleeps in a cage
His trans boyfriend*
😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think introvert belongs on the negative list. Obama is an introvert. Tom Hanks is an introvert. Just to name a couple of famous people. Also, introvert and shy are two different traits. There are introverts who are not shy.
It's hilariously poetic how Adam has a "B" on his jacket
Wow
Sheesh, spot on
Lol agreed
Right! so any man who has a *"B"* on his jacket is a Beta.
Nice logic there m8
@@user-is3yn7xr4c Found the beta with poor logic.
I've never seen a question answer itself in this type of fashion before.
DEADASS 🤣
This is a fire comment
"Unathletic man believes women "aren't" attracted to athletic men."
Boy bands get as much ass as pro athletes, so athleticism ism't a major factor.
@@MovieGuy666 There's a major flaw in that thought process:
There are far more athletes than there are boy bands. Numerically, athleticism far outshines anything else in terms of female attraction.
Lonnie Wright facts
@@DuncanKassel Well put
@@MovieGuy666 Fame and Money are up there 2, but the one thing these things have in common are that they all allow, the man to exhibit power over others.
Joe: "fact 1, fact 2, fact 3"
Adam: "just because it makes sense...(stutters) It doesn't have to make sense"
Wow, the hubris
This week on Adam ruins everything Adam ruins his credibility
There wasn't much to ruin.
This is the funniest comment so far!
Joe Rogan is buying NONE of what Adam is saying on ANY subject lol
cuz Adam seem very emotionally invested in what hes preaching,
@Seth Watson That pretty much covers the regressive lefts position on anything.
Adam is right though, this Alpha beta ideology doesn't account for how humans ostracize overly dominant and demanding character traits as being anti-social.
Joe is mostly right about the hr glass figure being consistently the beauty standard, however different circumstances call for different beauty standards, in times of conflict, women with more masculine traits tend to be seen as more attractive, and there is a correlation between social class and male preferences for boob size and women's body fat percentage.
Your dominance changes all the time, go to the gym and you'll see people benching 100s of pounds, while you struggle with just benching the ba, then you go to work where your a mid tier manager. Adam is right but he's fucking terrible at defending his arguments
Also all the top tech companies of the world are run buy people with beta traits. Bill gates doesn't exactly exude dominance
@@Ozzyisunavailable adam isn't right at all. He tries to come at it from a "scientific" standpoint but most of the people i have heard talk about beta males and alpha malss say that it is sociological, meanwhile he is strawmanning the idea and arguing something that isn't being contested
Well he shouldn’t, Adam himself buys into that intersectional sudo science ideology, I liked some of his videos in the past but it’s clear that a lot of his videos are driven by ideology and not actual scientific and statistical facts, I’ve seen episodes where he makes massive statements based on race and completely ignores statistics probably because he doesn’t want to look racist 🤦🏻♂️
There is actually a "B" on Adam's chest lol
Well spotted
HAHAHAHHAAHHA
Bruh moment
His jacket doesnt exist lmao
@@Quack_attack_ just have a little faith arthur
I spent my 20s as an introverted, socially awkward geeky type. I quit smoking at 29, moved halfway across the country, kick started my career, and got in the best physical shape of my life at 35. I start earning 6 figures at 38. Even if Alpha and Beta designations were scientifically applicable to humans (they are not), the designations were never applicable for life. I've seen plenty of women who were fine af in high school wind up fat af by 35. Life circumstances (and classifications) are a reflection of choices, environment, & genetics.
AMEN
Its not too late. I beat myself up everyday for not being successful at 22 but nothing happens overnight
Congrats on the change of discipline, you earned it 💪🏼
An alpha is the leader of any given social hierarchy. It's dependent on context and therefore the fact that it changes over time or the social group one is in is not an argument against its existence in humans. I really don't get people's twisting logic into pretzels to deny the fact that leaders, dominant people, apexes, heads, alphas, (or whatever word one uses) undeniablly exist within groups of humans.
@ranman7688 I never denied that leadership exists in personal or professional hierarchies. I simply state that the term "alpha" should never have been applied because the scientist who originally coined the term and applied it to wolf interactions later in his life realized and admitted that his conclusions were erroneous due to his observation subjects being wolves in captivity. There are, in the wild, in the real world, no alpha wolves. So, again, restate it makes zero sense to apply that specific term to any human interactions. The connotation of the word "alpha" is false because it is based on observation of an unnatural, controlled environment wherein the wolves were effectively forced into their hierarchies.
10:08
“When someone is told a fact that contradicts a really deeply held belief, it can cause them to disbelieve it, even if its true, and fight back even harder”
The lack of self awareness is incredible
Amazing. Great catch
Ahhahhhahaha thats hilarious
was th
inking exlacly the same when he talked about that
The ideology of alphas existing are flawed and cute to say the least guys are not getting the bigger picture.
Sure you might be bigger or stronger and look more like a girl with you're cute ass genes but no alpha male is going to stop a skinny dude or woman slitting his throat wide open in his sleep or from behind.
The principles of an alpha is so flawed and that's if we think exist, an alpha would be one who is smarter regardless of size and looks and uses his brain not a dumb comparison to a big animal who cannot think when it comes to the 21st century Mr joe and allot of girls will in def choose the guy with a brain in the long run who can actually provide trust me.
And in terms of woman it's the exact same scenario, sure she will look pretty but if your kids are DUMB AF regardless of how good they look you're going down the FOODCHAIN and IQ levels will drop in def,
Mr alphas rofl...
@@rpvenomrp Buddy what are you on about? With your same logic what's stopping anyone from slitting the guy with a big brains throat when he's not looking? An alpha is just a social position held generally by attractive confident men who are fairly smart and they tend to "win" in social situations and attract more women as a result. You sound like you have some coping to do lol.
Adam standing up for his kind
These comments really show no mercy💀💀💀
And all the " alphas" are providing his point
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq beta
@@Poop43 nope. Just have common sense
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq if you had common sense you would realize that Joe constantly is debunking what adam is saying.
I love how Adam wears a B on his jacket for Beta.
😂😂😂
Method Override or Bitch
Thought that would be overlooked lmao
LOL
I started scrolling through the comments to see how quick someone would point out the Beta Jacket.
He says right so much it makes you wonder if he is trying to convince himself he is right.
Joe is constantly describing his perfect man.
Lmfaoooooo
Tall, handsome, muscular MEN with great bodies
@@concars1234 *drool forms on lips*
wtf dude LMAO
Like the perfect woman 100 years ago would be too chubby for the standard of today, and I mean TOO chubby. The antopologic truth is that homo sapiens evolved to life in society by killing the alpha males in the groups, hence broading the collaboration to live in bigger tribes and then nation.
This guy has what they call "negative charisma"
Rofl 🏆
Cha (-4)
To people like you.
@@miriam7779 BETA
@@Kladjos OMEGA ..your turn bitch!
The is the argument of a man who didn’t use his bullying as a kid to become better. He’s just tried to rationalize it.
This makes zero fucking sense lmao
@@berserk972 Bullying is a process of character development. You have to face your inadequacies in order to develop yourself as a better man (money, muscles, and courage). What someone like Adam would do is use rationalization in order to hide from their inadequacies rather than face them. This is the easy path of cowardice.
@@alexbarnes9364 People are always gonna have inadequacies stand out and adversity in life without bullies. Most people develop character If they have a bully as a kid or not. If anything you guys encouraging giving into bullies shows how little character you actually have.
Wtf dude! Are you seriously justifying bullying as character building and say rather than stand up to it or ignore you should look at your own inadequacies or you’re a coward!? I really hope you don’t have kids and if you don’t do us all favour and don’t have any 👍
@@TheLeeBonner Standing up to it is character development. as opposed to caving and cowering to the harrassment
His ideology doesn't want to admit that people are different. That's what it comes down to and it's so obviously wrong it's sad
They should really change his show to :.
Adam Is Misinformed About Everything
More like Adam ruins his career.. lol
They're both totally scientifically stupid about the subject of Alpha/Beta.
@@jonathanmosher72 Seems more like Adam was trying to make a moot point (Science says there's no Alpha's/Beta's, he literally basing this on the work of a wolf expert) while Joe was not being scientific but simply stating that everyone sort of knows who's an Alpha/Beta in the context that it's commonly used. The thing is that the way it's commonly used does not literally mean Alpha/Beta as it does in the animal kingdom, it's more of an indication of assertiveness/dominance.
@@jellevanelten1483 Actually, Joe is totally trying to use it in a scientific way. He was trying to point out that from an evolutionary standpoint woman are attracted to confident muscular men. Adam was saying in a painful ignorant way it's not. I've taken evolutionary biology of primates. In history and in modern Neolithic tribalism, there wasn't an Alpha/Beta hierarchy of breeding. That's what Alpha/Beta actually means. Most Neolithic tribes were monogamous, which goes against the Alpha/Beta relationship. Assertiveness and dominance aren't positive traits in themselves without intelligence. Many idiots are both and end up in prison and are labeled "unfuckables"
@@jonathanmosher72 I suppose you're right in saying that Joe was indeed trying to be scientific when he tried to pin sexual attraction on established biology. My point was only on the existence of what society sees as an Alpha or Beta human man and how this is almost exactly how Joe describes it. That's not grounded science and quite subjective but it exists in that sense. And by itself is not a value judgement in any way.
The B on his jacket is really ironic-considering the topic lol
that's what i thought when i saw it haha
ONNIT Portland 😂👌
I was just thinking that, then i read your comment..😂
It's kind of easy if you think about it, Joe Rogan. The ideas of beauty are put into our minds by media, commercials, advertisements for centuries. That's why we like a certain body type. You're a thinker think it out
Beta man
Real alpha males don't have to tell people they're an alpha.
Could have cut this conversation short.
By the look of your picture, you a beta
Yes... other people identify you as alpha.
That's like saying the best athletes don't say they are. The greats say they are the greatest, same thing.
In the same way an alpha ain’t gotta brag on himself, if u an alpha, other ppl will brag on you for you.... that’s even biblical... don’t brag or boast on yoself!!! That’s super beta ish
"I'm all about things that are non-intuitive."
Same here! I like this guy.
I watched this while deadlifting 600lbs and staring down a polar bear.
Alpha status certified
I'm laughing so hard I got in trouble at work fuck you. You God damn legend.
I haven't laughed at loud at a comment in weeks, Well Done World Champion.
Did you have a stick of dynamite for a snack? Lol
I don't believe you. Were you offered a refreshing Coca-Cola or no?
The mental gymnastics this dude has to put himself through to try to make any sense makes me laugh.
Yeah! XD
It is pretty damned humorous, huh?!!
He even talks about how people won't accept facts that they don't agree with, that go against their entire identity...
He'd be telling Joe, and any attractive ladies out there who might be listening, that "Science" has proven women are attracted to short nerdy chubby guys with glasses if he thought he could get away with it without be laughed at.
@@i_kill_for_zardoz your a fool
Adam: I would like a A on my jacket.
*Gives jacket with a B on it*
Adam: OK thanks.
Lol what a BETA
Haha!
I laughed out loud 😂😂😂
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
lol
The fact that these two guys are in a room together kinda answers the question 😂
this dude's thinking "Well, I can't be a Beta male if they don't exist."
*taps on forehead
Your a beta, just look at you!
lol
I'd throw up a like but I don't wanna ruin your perfect number
😂😂😂😂 you sir are hilarious
2:54
"Women are hardwired to be attracted to confident athletic men"
(Says the confident athletic man with a family)
"I-I-I don't know if I agree with that"
(Says the childless beta male)
found the enlightened rightist. Must be nice living in a world where data means nothing.
this is why you see so many battered divorced unhappy decent women who WISH they had married a good moral humble man because they thought their little arrogant dipshit loser "alpha male" was confident when in reality he was an insecure piece of garbage. When will you ladies ever learn ?
As a woman, I don't think women are hardwired necessarily to be attracted to a confident athletic man. Our sexual preference is more flexible because of our role as a mate. Females as the weaker sex and nurturer of offspring have needed to look for a mate that can provide security for offspring and protection even from rape by undesirable mates. So having children with a geneticly healthy male would not be enough to ensure survival of those children. A provider mate might be more necessary based on environment. I think that's why so many women are sexually attracted to rich or powerful men rather than buff dudes. Providers also aren't necessarily confident alphas.
But yea the same can't be said for men.
@@rbeck3200tb40 r/niceguys and low IQ righty wrapped up in one comment. Damn dude. You ok?
@@RequiemOfSolo
138 IQ here buddy whats yours dumbass ?
You know youre a PRIME EXAMPLE of the arrogant clueless douchebag that im talking about Im 46 been around the block and back again Ive seen it all before many times .Im correct in what I say. Sorry you dont like it little boy .When you grow up you will understand .
ARE YOU OK ? IDIOT
This whole interview didn't go as Adam planned it, I'm guessing.
well, he doesn't have his script
Probably came in expecting to blow Joe away with all his "facts" but he seems like the type of person who only looks for the answers he's looking for and doesn't look at both sides
Ancient Mysteries & Modern Innovations Ok, but Adam is right here. He’s been right about most of his stances. It’s the topic of transgenderism alone where he sort of embarrassed himself by preferring to advocate for what _feels_ less mean than what’s most logical.
But when it comes to this topic he’s right, and it’s true that there really are no such things as alpha and beta males irl for humans. We males and females alike are all just complex and varying humans. Humans are all so different. To keep it on-topic, males specifically are all so different with differing strengths and talents. I mean when you ask men and boys what’s “alpha,” the answers are so different and inconsistent... and a bit childish tbh. The concept itself is pretty childish and not very logical.
@@AddBowIfGirl theres clearly hierarchies within humankind.it varies depending on what that particular hierarchy is.your boss is the alpha at your workplace,but you could be the alpha outside of work within your social circle
Thumbnail gave it away for me
As a woman, I am attracted to strong, conservative minded men. I want someone who wants me to be a strong, feminine woman. Old school values, without control struggles. It has more to do with mindset and a sense of balance. I want a mentally balanced man.
Women are attracted to confidence and strength, timidness and weakness aren't attractive at all. To men those things barely make a difference.
Adam desperately wants attraction to be equal across sexes.
As a woman, I am not attracted to that and love the thoght of an equal parter who'll take care of half the housechores gladly because that's the type of relationship they want. Who likes my food and isn't on some extream diet bc I am one of the people (who men and woman do that) love cooking. I like cuddeling and idk if you've noticed some body fat is way more cozy.
And all of that dosn't really matter bc I still fell in love w a men I was writing w on the interent who I had no idea how he lookes or anything, just that he's smart and attentive and in some strange way saw some things like me that made me feel seen.
What's to say Aplha males are so much fucking bs
You mean a soft, feminine woman. Not strong.
@@catsaresocute650your username says it all cat lady. Well congratulations on bagging yourself a... BETAAAAA!!!! 😂
@@catsaresocute650That's because you're on the pill. Go 3 months off the pill, just to see what happens, and watch your tastes in men change.
Looks like Joe Rogan just alpha’d the shit out of this beta lmao
That’s funny coming from the 5’7 “alpha”
@@svnchezmedia Height doesn't have to do with anything. The mind is what counts.
Ehh the Adam guy is nerdy but you can't become an "alpha" by taking a bunch of TRT , HGH and anabolic steroids
Dank Frank you shallow bastard haha
The 5 foot 7 alpha that could kick you hard enough to kill you, you mean.
Adam knows that High School Musical was just a movie and not a scientific study, right?
Right?
Lmfao .... nice
@@ted5128 that shits funny
Right 😁
Alpha male confidently explaining to a beta that he is one.
@Yankie Doodle And can kick your heart out B.
Yankie Doodle height don’t make you alpha or beta
@hyeboi you serious? joe is a fucking humongous alpha male, there are countless videos on his alpha status.
@hyeboi
Being 5'7 is a small sacrifice for being confident enough to be a top commentator, knowing how to fight, being in shape, generally does not stutter, etc.
@hyeboi
What do you see as an alpha then?
I can't help but feel that the view of no such thing as Beta and Alpha, is just another part of our modern way of thinking, when we're trying so hard not to hurt anyone's feelings. There may not be strict Alphas and Betas, but there certainly are more dominant individuals and more submissive ones. That's not a bad thing, it just is. To argue against that makes one sound ignorant of reality.
That's exactly what they are both saying - scientifically there's no such thing as alpha and beta males in the evolutionary hierarchy of humans, but they both agree that more dominant and more submissive individuals exist. However, Adam is also making the point that if you change the environment that those individuals are in, then that may have a dramatic effect on those individuals' dominance and confidence. He doesn't articulate it well, but I get the point he is making.
You know COVID-19 has gone to your head when you rewatch Adam Conover interviews.
Gate Lice facts
Gate Lice you ain’t lying.
Was thinking the same thing bud, had already watched this, yet some part of me just yearned to relive some sort of awkward social encounter...even from afar
You guys have strong stomachs.
I can hardly take my first gulp of this pond slime.
Gate Lice I’m a pothead and I’m the 420 like 🤙🏽
“He’s the alpha in his dungeons and dragons group” Adam is the only person ever in history to say that
It's true tho
Listen don't attack Dungeons & Dragons players. One is married to Sofia Vergara. She isn't as young as she use to be. But she still can melt a stick of butter in the middle of a blizzard by looking at it.
Ogre casts fire 2 at doubleo7 for questioning who runs this group...
@@jasonarce5169 no way?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Saying “right” after every sentence doesn’t make you right 😂
A sign of insecurity--he's searching for affirmation of his ideas.
I read this comment like 2 minutes in and now I’m annoyed as crap...right?
I say “right” a lot but I mean it in more of like, you following? lol It’s a bad habit
It was driving me insane.
“right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” “right” , GOD! This guy.
Joe didn’t point out the fact that Adam’s assertion that people are only attracted to what they’re attracted to based on what they were told to be attracted to and that could be changed with social hardwiring is exactly like saying that homosexuality is a choice that could be changed with different influence
You put those two in a room together and you’re trying to tell me alphas don’t exist?
Yeah, I do, last time I checked you wing a debate by making sense, not by being confident nor aggressive. 1:49 Aggressive males will always be that and social introvert will always be that? Hahahahahaha, so people don't change?
Zidneya I think he was trying to say that it is who that person is over a multitude of situations or scenarios. Not over the course of their life or that they cant ever change.
@@chrisa1155 Last time I checked a lifetime it's a multitude of situations or scenarios. And by changing you also change how you experience and interact with them. It's called transition, oh but in that dumb's mind, changing? Nah an agresive will always be aggressive and introverts will always be introverts (his words not mine) hahaha, yeah it's not like we live in a world were people either explode over frustration or lose aggressiveness due to traumas, right? oh wait, we do haha.
@@zidneya Obviously people can change, but that's not the point. You can change from being shy and weak (beta) to being brave and strong (alpha), but alphas and betas still exist dude.
@@leeham6230 Last time I checked there are no alphas nor betas since popularity is a social construct. What you call an alpha here is a beta in China and vice-versa. Hahahaha, 🤣 douchebags always seek something to feel superior , money, wealth, religion, country, looks, race, gender, etc. this alpha and beta crap is just a list of excuses in a looooooong list of excuses. You think Joe is an alpha? Doesn't by that make you his bi**h, or as you call it, his beta? Hahahaha.
Adam’s show lost a lot of credibility to me after this interview and seeing how he only researches things that support his narrative.
Like most people
He’s real smart when people write things for him to say and when there’s no on to counter his incorrectness.
@@Nibs333 bro anybody can seem smart if they do what adam does on his show just read a script given to u by ur nerd puppets however a lot of ppl can’t seem smart and logical when ur actually in a conversation and arguing with someone that shows who’s really smart or just a complete beta male like Adam
Yup Adam is the epitome of the term "confirmation bias". But I'm not gonna lie, a lot of people use confirmation bias to support their reasoning. But even if one were to use confirmation bias, Adam's ideas are just so bad like both in theory and in practice, what a terrible guy, he's not reaching for progressivity he's trying to exponentially change our lifestyles into a monotonic idea where we must think and act a certain way. Which by the way is impossible, next thing he might be is pro-eugenics so we can all share the same hereditary traits and get along with one another. Dude's got a serious problem.
Adam is just buzzfeed in human form.
Joe ruins Adams everything lol.
Adam explained later on that people will disprove something if they highly believe it even if it’s wrong, that’s what Adam does with alpha and beta
7:20 Jeremy pulls up article supporting Adam but joe is quick to dismiss cause his build his life to be an alpha like Adam is trying to explain. I notice joe comes off self righteous not just in this podcast.
@@h3ll0124 I mean it was an article in the Huffington post talking about "dad bods" not a scientific journal?? Sounds more like a clickbait article to me
@Ciaran Rooney No, he isn't.. Culture can modify biological attraction, but it's always present to some extent. The hourglass figure is a universal thing, and certain cultural pressures changed that for a time. You have the situation backwards. You start with the biological norms and then culture comes in later to modify it.
Ciaran Rooney nah pear shape was never a thing just degenerate goddess worship and wealthy fat people commissioning art
I really appreciate how they had a disagreement. Then worked through it and found some common ground.
This should be called: "Joe Rogan Questions Everything that Adam Ruins."
Yes yes yes!!
Too complicated: "Joe ruins Adam."
@Derek lmao!! Good one
Intuition n Reality are two different things a partners someone you can live with a mates the instant lust
Joe - Alpha and proud of it
Adam - Beta and in denial about it
James smith and in denial about it even being a “thing”
Good example:
“I’m all about things being non-intuitive” .............We know Adam
Joe is just 5ft 7
@@valken666 ya and is jacked and has a black belt ......
wears a sweater with a capital B on it
Any alpha automatically become beta in presence of hierarchically higher individual. Would Joe be an alpha in presence of President of USA? He is not an alpha even in presence of Dana White.
Never have I come to despise the word ‘right’ SO much.
Christopher Keck that just ended the show for me 😂
Christopher Keck goddamn it I didn’t notice it until now. Fuck!
If Adam's right, he's right.
Right?
I know, right!?
He says that men are indoctrinated to what to be attracted to as a kid, and people like him also like to push these certain storytimes in schools and libraries.....
Beta tries to convince himself he's not a beta by denying that betas even exist.
😂😂😂
true
The Alpha/Beta shit clearly doesn’t really understand women once they try to date women
Colorized
Soleilsonira believing in alpha and beta male concepts isn’t incel thinking. It’s just a very sexist concept
The dude is even wearing a “B” lmao
Hahahahahaahha
First thing I noticed lmao.
B for I’m a bitch and I disagree with anything that relates to what I really am
Savage, lol.
ooooooof
I wonder whether his wifes boyfriend is an alpha male ?
You know he is.
His husband's boyfriend is an alpha.
he can’t be, cos alphas don’t exist. he’s just a regular dude fucking his wife.
USER 1 😂
FASHION JOHNSON 😂🤣
People are not attracted to the sports stars simply because they're in good shape it has a lot more to do with them being popular famous and rich as well. Many farmers are in phenomenal shape but you don't see the women lining up
I get Adam's point. A jock could be a beta when he's on a science class with the nerd being the alpha. However, in this particular interview, Adam is definitely a beta.
Yeah but the point is that the alpha will be (most of the time, and not in all situations) successful on life and the beta wont. In women, career, socially and most other things.
But joe has that bubble gut from using substances and he therefore looks beta being flabby and not proportioned due to the years of abuse
@Prince of Logic And Adam has had a fairly successful career doing his style of comedy. You also wouldn't know the other depending on what interests you have. Which is one of the points Adam makes. No one is confident and charismatic in every situation. If Joe was at some kind of science conference, he wouldn't be able to rise to the top of that social hierarchy because he doesn't have the clout or background necessary. He might be able to have conversations on an individual basis, but that would be about it.
There are no betas. He's debating everything here. A beta is meant to be submissive.
Armani Martinez you’re a beta simp
Lol This is hilarious, this is literally a conversation between a Alpha and Beta.
He really isn't very good at debating, is he?
Thats exactly what i was thinking, because he switches the topic pretty fast or picks examples which arent really related to the point joe was trying to make. Also i cant follow where he is going .... that dude is really a bad guest to listen to.
ofc, he's a comedian, totally not experienced debater.
sadly ppl mistake it for dumbness.
@@sd-xx8ep I wouldnt call him dumb, but he isnt actually smart, because smart people know how to debate. Thats what they do every day to improve themselves and also conquer their own intellect. But as a viewer/listener that guy isnt a good guest, that was my point. And its probably even less smart to actually go into a confrontation about a topic that you cant handle that well OR you are not capable of backing up your statements with actual facts, so even for the fact that the guy might be a comedian he isnt acting smart in this video.
Rogan barely said anything FOR him to debate.
Yall are fucking retarded he just didnt want to embarass joe for saying that stupid shit
The confirmation bias and the beliefs that form ones identity is an interesting topic especially when it comes to science. As recent years have shown, that creeps into what we once though was an unbiased, facts-based area and has made us all skeptical of how unbiased and trustworthy many people in the scientific community truly are.
I’ve literally never seen a guest made Joe look so smart... what the hell was adam talking about this entire video
I promise you took the words out my fucking mouth wtf. Am thinking to myself wow Joe sounds really fucking smart in this segment wow
this made me laugh out loud for real.
Well joe is really smart about a lot of shit whether you normally think so or not soooooo but ya it seems like Adam disagrees with anything joe says just for the sake of disagreeing and doesn't put any thought as to what hes disagreeing to if that's what you ment
Adam is a leftist, and his entire show is dedicated to dismantling American values and scientific evidence to fit his worldview.
Libtards for ya
You are literally looking at both an alpha and a beta male in this video... clear as day
You probably look like a fucking dork
And yet those terms don't exist
I like how you immediately triggered replies from beta bitches.
Lmao the whole video I'm like how doesn't this dude realize he's living in a real life example of an alpha vs beta. Joe had to have had that thought cross his mind.
well, he has a letter B on his sweater.
Adam- "Women aren't hardwired to be attracted to strong muscular athletic men"
Me- "if you were a strong, muscular, athletic man, you wouldn't be saying that, guaranteed.
Andrew Spencer lmfao I don’t get what being hardwired has to do with this, it’s just preference everybody has different tastes
@Zephyr stfu ur literally a virgin
Zephyr is right! A woman will marry a beta, or a rich guy, because of security, but will be sexualy atracted to a masculine man, she might get pregnant with that guy, if are not on the pill, women tend to pick more masculine man...we tend to scan the body of a man in 60 seconds, and after we can sence his personal smell, we know if we want to have sex with him or not...the shoulder to hip ratio is important, the shape of the jaw line, the size of the hands and the teeth...
@Zephyr In the case of humans, this isn't always true though. That's why in the beginning of the video Adam said it's not a scientific statement. A scientific statement cannot be true if even 1 evidence is found contradictory regardless of how much supporting evidence you have. The fact that homosexuality exists contradicts that statement. The fact that some people are in love with people with disabilities/illnesses contradicts your statement. And so many more.
That statement is only 100% true to non-human species because unlike humans, those species are more simple and bounded by nature. Humans are very complex, free willed, and have consciousness.
Women seek the best genes to mate with.
I think most people are composites....confidence is good ...over confidence that walks off a cliff ...not so much.
Adam ”I love science as long as it doesn’t hurt my feelings” Conover
Adam “I love science and will argue to the best of my knowledge and opinion” Conover
*Joe "I love science as long as it doesn't hurt my feelings" Rogan
@DJ See's through it edgy
@DJ See's through it "forgot flush drinkable water"? You can't even troll right bro...
@DJ See's through it Did your mom cancel the abortion last minute? I'm genuinely curious.
You can tell Adam has been called a BETA a lot
Haha, if the dick fits!
I like beta males. Alpha males are actually obnoxious, they are basically cave men.
@@tabbyreed8925 not really, that's just the stereotype since its hard to find a pussy acting like a douchebag
You're a beta
@@brandond6697 what makes you think that?
If beta males don’t exist, then he doesn’t have to admit he’s a beta
I'm getting scared low self-esteem vibes from that comment
True
@@0Scoops lol that's that fun little reverse psychology that weenies use to make themselves feel better "That guy's driving a huge truck because his dick's small"
go back to pol
With out a doubt doesn’t like competition
Lol I just noticed Adam wearing “B” on his jacket
😂
🤣🤣
Scarlett letter
😂😂😂
This is by far the most underrated comment in this thread
Beta male (Adam): "Alpha males aren't real."
Alpha male (Joe): "Yes, they are."
The virgin Adam and the Chad Joe
Joe is a 5.7 Beta 😂
@Adolf Hitler this is actually literally true.
Wolfen Von Schitz absolute chad Joe Rogan
Well alpha males in humans aren't..
adam closes the fridge with his hip
@Scratchy Boy I swear
What's that supposed to mean?
@@danielmaster8776 you know exactly what that means , bro
LOL
@@Dan_Kanerva No, I really don't. It's just one of many ways that someone can close a door...
@@danielmaster8776 oh i get it... you know what we talking about, you are just getting defensive because you probably do it too 😂
I mean I think it’s all just generalizations. Different people have different preferences for who they are attracted to, there’s no set criteria for all men or all women, but there are almost certainly some preferences that are more common than others, but it doesn’t really make sense to debate the matter without pulling up statistics. Only statistics could resolve this debate, otherwise it’s just a matter of speculation and personal anecdote.
Adam is the male version of the “plus sized model advocate feminist” lmfao.