I have 2 basic patroit ssds in raid for scratch editing, and it is fast as hell, way above 600 read. My boot drive is an Samsung evo 850, and its a 500 read alone, and anout 500 write too.
yeah pci-e gen 2 x2 is caped at 1000 mb/s, given a typical ssd has a speed of 550mb's if he could find a pci-e gen 2 x4 card for around the same price he would have all the performance benefits
ajddavid452 Admittedly on a 1GB/s RAID, 100 MB/s is not the end of the world, though 1: I haven’t watched the video yet and 2: I’d be more concerned about the RAID controller not beign able to keep up with the SSDs if the manufacturers of the card couldn’t spring for a full 4x PCI-E interface... EDIT: Looking up the speed of PCI-E Gen 2 4x I found a discussion of the EVGA fourms pointing out that PCI-E Gen 2 has more overhead then gen 3, so for Gen 2 4x you can expect about 1.5GB/s, so I’m guessing 2x will be more around 750-800 MB/s... so faster then SATA 3, but slower then 2xSATA3... bottlenecks yay EDIT2: I think that 400MB/s speed he ended up getting is due to the RAID controller, because that's just too slow for PCI-E 2x GEN 2 EDIT3: If his motherboard's manual is to be believed, the RAID card is only getting PCI-E GEN 1 2x, which would before overhead be 500 MB/s, which is amazingly in line with what he got. MOTHERBOARD BOTTLENECK
Always a happy day when Druaga uploads. Plus, it allows me to distract myself from the mess that is my family relationships today so it's especially welcome on this occasion.
I think part the problem is the RAID controller MIGHT not be fast enough since you're spreading the PCI-E bandwidth between 2 SSDs at the same time. Also, your CPU usually limits how many PCI-E lanes you have available. I think Linus Tech Tips has some videos on PCI-E lanes
Druaga, 2x, 4x, 8x and 16x are the bandwidth connectors on the PCI-E card, in this case the RAID card you have is a 2x PCI-E card, so inserting it into a 16x slot (the one you're using with the GTX 970) will not improve anything because you're already hitting a wall with the 2x card. What makes the difference is the generation that 2x card supports and the slot supports. ie 2x PCIe 2.0 < 2x PCIe 3.0.
ARC I got one from pny my first ssd but im still happy did it because I had bad luck with this one fucking laptop and the mec hds dieing after I get the drivers for win 10 on a core 2 duo its not easy
So I'm not completely sure, but from what I heard in school it's like this: If you want the extra lanes (x1 = 1 Lane, x4 = 4 Lanes, ...), you actually need the physical pins on the raid card (your card fits into a x1 slot -> it actually only can handle x1. So better put the card into a slot which does not bottleneck you g-card(I got x8 -> x16 20% more performance). As you read in your manual, even if a slot is the size of a x16 one, it does not need to have all the lanes routed to it. So always read the manual when setting up you PCIe cards.
Yea I ran into this problem years back. Things to learn is research the pcie lane you're using first. Find appropriate sata card and make sure it supports raid and boot. Calculate your SSD make sure it's below the PCIe lane speed.
Already running a 1TB and 2TB SSD raid setup in my PC and have been for almost a year now. Also have a 8TB HDD raid setup. Both my SSD raid setups are fully used and I have 5TBs used on my HDDs.
Druaga you should do a Q&A. I would love to know what you do for a living. Love your videos. They always make me laugh and I love your ssd thing you have. The video where you broke down about ssds in everything really was amusing. keep up the great work man.
Druaga1 , The Raid can be moved to another computer so long as it is attached to the same raid card or a card that uses the same chipset and allows you to rebuild an array.
Druaga1 have you saturated all PCIe lanes on the motherboard? You plugged it into a PCIe x16 slot (x8 electronically with GPU installed). Using all those SATA 3/6gbps ports is most likely reducing PCIe slots speeds. When you use the RAID controller configuration tool. It stated its in 5Gbps x 1 mode (PCIe v2.0 x1), ideally you want it to be in x2 mode. You'll need to configure the BIOS to make sure that slot is operating in x2 mode (or x4 mode) and not the default x1 mode. Both performance benchmarks are within margin of error.
I wasn't expecting swapping PCI-E port to solve issue, since that RAID controller is only PCI Express x2-one (aka 1 GB/s), but seems like total bandwidth of chipset is really issue there. So best bet would be just plugging these SSDs to your mobo and old mechanical drives to that card and using software RAID.
it's business expense. If your job involved researching with high tech telescopes, you would most likely have multiple $5k telescopes just laying around in your house.
I wouldn't say you need a complete upgrade. You just have to find a better mainboard for the system, that has more bandwidth at the pci-e lanes. Also you don't need a bigger case, you just have to clean up the whole pc and do some cable management. I'd also highly recommend you to overclock your i7 2600k.
listen carefully at 1:55 for Heavy Weapons Guy (Team Fortress 2 (C) Valve corp) saying "You are So Small! Is funny to Me!" at a fast pace and rather quietly while Ian (Druaga) says the RAID Card is so small.
Yeah...good call on that. I tried to clone my Windows 10 install from my single SSD to my RAID 0. It was a total non-starter. Had to reinstall fresh, the RAID drivers did not want to even begin to play ball with an existing installation.
Hyperduo is a Marvell chipset feature that increases HDD performance when 'added' to the array. Basically building a SSHD. Allows up to 3 SSD with a single HDD.
You don't have to worry about the graphics card lagging with that setup. I've also got a GTX 970, and benchmarks I ran on it showed no improvement going from PCIE 3.0 x8 to PCIE 3.0 X16, so X8 doesn't seem to bottleneck it at all.
Druaga1, why not use the two sata-3 connectors on your motherboard for these two Sandisk ssd's? Then you get the maximum speed. Yes, I know your Windows installation is on the Samsung ssd but that ssd sitting on a sata-2 connector is not as bad as it sounds. And it will still be bootable. You just have to change some boot settings in the bios. Look, Windows loves small files. Ssd's are fast with small files. You will only notice the difference between sata 2 and 3 if you are copying, zipping or moving very big files. On your Windows installation you do not. Just keep this Samsung on a sata-2 port for Windows (it will work just fine) and move your steam games and all the editing work to the Sandisk raid 0 array. Then you can even plug in your optical drives to the pci-e card, because the optical drive speed is so limited the pci-e x1 card can handle that one with ease.
You're right that RAID stripe sizes set the minimum size for files on the RAID, however, 64k would be better for smaller files, and 32k would be better for larger ones. The bigger the files you'll be dealing with, the smaller a chunk size you need.
Hey druaga. I don't know if you seen that but both times it ran at PCIe 2.0 x2 speed (because it's an x2 card). You can even see that on 15:23 and 30:47
That last pci express slot actually connects to the phc. The south bridge. It's not the full speed. I had this issue on my setup an I just went x79 an a processor with the right pci lanes to accommodate the bandwidth
You could put an HDD LED in that hole, I think that may be the purpose. Would be more ideal for front panel though? So maybe some type of weird server setup....
Hey Druaga, if you tried to install the raid software do you think you'd get better results? Also, are you sure that using higher lane pci-e slots makes a low lane card improve performance?
Druaga1, does your motherboard support an m2 ssd? If so, you may consider it. m2 ssd's (especially the pci-e versions, not the sata versions) are 3 to 5 times faster than regular ssd's. I myself use a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M2 ssd on an Asus X99-A motherboard. Great board, and, if you use the right processor you got lots of pci-e lanes. I have the 5820k processor, so I am at a maximum of 28 lanes. My videocard is using 16 lanes so there are still 8 lanes left. The ssd is using 4 lanes and puts out speeds on average 2,500MB/s read and 1250MB/s write. And no hassle with extra cards, cables or power plugs. (I have a video about this ssd on my channel. If you are interested in how it looks, installs and works just check it out). Oh and you might find the Cooltek G3 installation video also interesting because I tried to mimic your way of making video's, say and do stupid things etc (like throwing three scissors to open a box while one would be suffice). Would be great if you left me a message there. Otherwise, happy Christmas. ;-) Another big advice: USE SATA CABLES WITH CLICK SYSTEMS. The ones you are using are bad and come loose at any moment. And some more: Disable Indexing on ssd's, especially if you are using them in a raid 0 configuration.
I was honestly tempted to buy two 1TB SSD and make a RAID 0 because they were cheaper than a single 2TB SSD. Well, now... I guess the 2TB is worth the extra $?
The stripe size has nothing to do with file sizes. For any kind of flash drive your probably want to set it to 64K or higher (trying to match the native erase block of the flash drive typically 256K).
the problem with your TOP SLOT is that the CARD is a 2x card, but the top slot is only a 1x slot. this is kinda common. it's rare to find a PCIe-2x slot, you usually get a 1x and a few 16x.
Greg R PCIe x2 is also non-standard. Many motherboards do not support running at x2 mode, the spec allows for x1, x4, x8, x16, and x32 (only used on certain server boards).
Druaga, you've already got a raid controller with the same or better capabilities built into your motherboard. The chipset on that board is basically an integrated motherboard chipset pulled out onto a separate board for systems that need more than their native amount of drives available. As is that card is a bottleneck, and using the built in RAID will give you more performance with virtually no additional CPU overhead. If you want a hardware raid, go with LSI logic with a supercapacitor write cache. That is the only way you'll gain any performance at all, it'll cost $400 and you'll see maybe 2-3% higher throughput.
I know, but you could buy refurb or used lsi or 3ware/adaptec sas raid controllers usually connected by PCIe x4 to x8 (which are compatible with SATA III HDDs/SSDs) of ebay for example for ~50 - 100 $ or €.
Yep, I know bought a refurbished 8 Port DELL Perc H310 Controller (LSI RAID) capable of providing SATA 6.0 Gbps off ebay in Germany for around 58 € including shipping
Yeah Im software raiding 3 ssd's for my games drive, 2x older PNY drives and 1x 512GB SanDisk I lose about 30GB in raid 0 but I got 1.3TB of SSD's space with reads over 1200mb/s and writes and writes at 1300mb/s, I load into COD so fast that I have wait about 10 seconds before the 15 second count down starts at the beginning of a match. Im not worried if I lose data on the raid if something happened, its just game files which can be re downloaded if 1 drive fails, no big deal.
You would be better off putting the avermedia card in the 3rd x16 slot (slot 7 in the manual) and the raid card in the top x1 slot (slot 1 in the manual) above the video card, putting anything in the second x16 slot (5 in the manual) makes the first one (2 in the manual) run at x8 regardless of whether its a video card or not
Druaga, just get a SATA 3 PCI-E card to hook the boot SSD into and return the RAID card. Then hook the two 1TB SSDs into the two SATA 3 ports on the motherboard and setup the RAID there.
26:46 That looks an awful lot like a GeForce FX 5900 PCIe illustrated there, complete with the then ASUS style cheap heatsink with noisy fan. The odd memory arrangement and the HSIO heatsink near the connector are dead ringers.
Steven Randall CPU and the motherboard control PCIe lanes, however only 2011-x socket motherboards will increase PCIe lanes substantially. I doubt he needs 40 lanes. A BIOS update may allow auto-negotiation of the x2 card properly. Many motherboards will default to x1 speeds when it cannot sync at x4.
I once accidently installed my g-card into an x8 slot. When I figuerd it out, I did some benchmarks and turns out that I could have had 20% more performance the whole friggin time.
Cool thing you got. I got a NINTENDO 2DS! (not to be confused with regular DS. It's a 3DS without 3D. Plays all DS and 3DS games in 2D, AND COSTS 100 BUCKS ONLY)
Would plugging your old mechanicals into the RAID also reduce the bandwidth of your new SSD setup when both the RAID and the mechanical are being accessed?
Lol Space Engine launched in the background and played the menu music, which I thought you put into the video to add suspense. When I realized it was the game, It lowered the suspense lol.
you should upload more often, try installing a new monitor into a all in one computer? like take out the mother board of it and try to make a monitor compatible with a custom port??? idk
You would probably get better speeds if you plug into you motherboard even if it is in sata 2 because sata2 X 2ssd is 750MB/s instead of pcie2.0 1x that is 500MB/s. this is assuming you can run raid on your motherboard.
Video just came out, PLEASE tell me you made a christmas tree entirely out of weed and SSD's.
dude druaga needs to make this happen next year i think this comment made me laugh to hard though thanks man
Arent you that one guy from discord?
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wait isnt he that guy fro discord?
Talk about a 3 SSD RAID at 9:34 He forgot to add the little 32gig SSD to the raid but whatever
I have 2 basic patroit ssds in raid for scratch editing, and it is fast as hell, way above 600 read. My boot drive is an Samsung evo 850, and its a 500 read alone, and anout 500 write too.
@@paranoidnela Meh I'm happy with my 2 Samsung 960 evo 1tb name m.2 in raid 0.
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yeah pci-e gen 2 x2 is caped at 1000 mb/s, given a typical ssd has a speed of 550mb's if he could find a pci-e gen 2 x4 card for around the same price he would have all the performance benefits
ajddavid452 Admittedly on a 1GB/s RAID, 100 MB/s is not the end of the world, though 1: I haven’t watched the video yet and 2: I’d be more concerned about the RAID controller not beign able to keep up with the SSDs if the manufacturers of the card couldn’t spring for a full 4x PCI-E interface...
EDIT: Looking up the speed of PCI-E Gen 2 4x I found a discussion of the EVGA fourms pointing out that PCI-E Gen 2 has more overhead then gen 3, so for Gen 2 4x you can expect about 1.5GB/s, so I’m guessing 2x will be more around 750-800 MB/s... so faster then SATA 3, but slower then 2xSATA3...
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EDIT2:
I think that 400MB/s speed he ended up getting is due to the RAID controller, because that's just too slow for PCI-E 2x GEN 2
EDIT3:
If his motherboard's manual is to be believed, the RAID card is only getting PCI-E GEN 1 2x, which would before overhead be 500 MB/s, which is amazingly in line with what he got.
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Always a happy day when Druaga uploads. Plus, it allows me to distract myself from the mess that is my family relationships today so it's especially welcome on this occasion.
Uploaded on Sunday? AWESOME!
"Use a knife, you're gonna love my SSDs"
Is that a SlapChop reference.
I got my first SSD for Christmas this year! I've never heard my PC make such a noise as when it was running 175 MBps transferring from HDD to SSD.
I think part the problem is the RAID controller MIGHT not be fast enough since you're spreading the PCI-E bandwidth between 2 SSDs at the same time. Also, your CPU usually limits how many PCI-E lanes you have available. I think Linus Tech Tips has some videos on PCI-E lanes
Well isn't this video a nice little Christmas present
Druaga, 2x, 4x, 8x and 16x are the bandwidth connectors on the PCI-E card, in this case the RAID card you have is a 2x PCI-E card, so inserting it into a 16x slot (the one you're using with the GTX 970) will not improve anything because you're already hitting a wall with the 2x card. What makes the difference is the generation that 2x card supports and the slot supports. ie 2x PCIe 2.0 < 2x PCIe 3.0.
Opening any SSD is sacred. All hail the glorious SSD of SanDisk!
ARC I got one from pny my first ssd but im still happy did it because I had bad luck with this one fucking laptop and the mec hds dieing after I get the drivers for win 10 on a core 2 duo its not easy
So I'm not completely sure, but from what I heard in school it's like this:
If you want the extra lanes (x1 = 1 Lane, x4 = 4 Lanes, ...), you actually need the physical pins on the raid card (your card fits into a x1 slot -> it actually only can handle x1.
So better put the card into a slot which does not bottleneck you g-card(I got x8 -> x16 20% more performance).
As you read in your manual, even if a slot is the size of a x16 one, it does not need to have all the lanes routed to it.
So always read the manual when setting up you PCIe cards.
Yea I ran into this problem years back. Things to learn is research the pcie lane you're using first. Find appropriate sata card and make sure it supports raid and boot. Calculate your SSD make sure it's below the PCIe lane speed.
I always go with full tower cases. Just because most systems will definitely be able to use that room to grow in the future.
if you read the footnote in your manual, the default speed was 1X. So there might be a setting to bump it up to 4X
Stripe size with raid is how frequent data is split between drives. It is up to the file system to determine how small files can be
Already running a 1TB and 2TB SSD raid setup in my PC and have been for almost a year now.
Also have a 8TB HDD raid setup.
Both my SSD raid setups are fully used and I have 5TBs used on my HDDs.
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Pistol Switches mine is a diode :/
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Druaga you should do a Q&A. I would love to know what you do for a living. Love your videos. They always make me laugh and I love your ssd thing you have. The video where you broke down about ssds in everything really was amusing. keep up the great work man.
Druaga1 , The Raid can be moved to another computer so long as it is attached to the same raid card or a card that uses the same chipset and allows you to rebuild an array.
pci-e 2.0 is max 500MB/S per lane but your raid card has 2 lanes thas the X2 on the box so you could get 1GB/S
The thing is...2x cards are not a thing... There is only 1x 4x 8x and 16x in the standard :b
Just got a mid-2007 MacBook (with an SSD). Merry Christmas!
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+Poble Why am I still getting hate?
Druaga1 have you saturated all PCIe lanes on the motherboard? You plugged it into a PCIe x16 slot (x8 electronically with GPU installed). Using all those SATA 3/6gbps ports is most likely reducing PCIe slots speeds.
When you use the RAID controller configuration tool. It stated its in 5Gbps x 1 mode (PCIe v2.0 x1), ideally you want it to be in x2 mode. You'll need to configure the BIOS to make sure that slot is operating in x2 mode (or x4 mode) and not the default x1 mode.
Both performance benchmarks are within margin of error.
In the raid menu it shows at 31:00 pcie speed rate 5gbps 1x Its a pcie x1 card it will only ever use one lane no matter what port you plug it into
I wasn't expecting swapping PCI-E port to solve issue, since that RAID controller is only PCI Express x2-one (aka 1 GB/s), but seems like total bandwidth of chipset is really issue there.
So best bet would be just plugging these SSDs to your mobo and old mechanical drives to that card and using software RAID.
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it's business expense. If your job involved researching with high tech telescopes, you would most likely have multiple $5k telescopes just laying around in your house.
I wouldn't say you need a complete upgrade. You just have to find a better mainboard for the system, that has more bandwidth at the pci-e lanes. Also you don't need a bigger case, you just have to clean up the whole pc and do some cable management. I'd also highly recommend you to overclock your i7 2600k.
listen carefully at 1:55 for Heavy Weapons Guy (Team Fortress 2 (C) Valve corp) saying "You are So Small! Is funny to Me!" at a fast pace and rather quietly while Ian (Druaga) says the RAID Card is so small.
Yeah...good call on that. I tried to clone my Windows 10 install from my single SSD to my RAID 0. It was a total non-starter. Had to reinstall fresh, the RAID drivers did not want to even begin to play ball with an existing installation.
Hyperduo is a Marvell chipset feature that increases HDD performance when 'added' to the array. Basically building a SSHD. Allows up to 3 SSD with a single HDD.
You don't have to worry about the graphics card lagging with that setup. I've also got a GTX 970, and benchmarks I ran on it showed no improvement going from PCIE 3.0 x8 to PCIE 3.0 X16, so X8 doesn't seem to bottleneck it at all.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS, Druaga!!!
Thank you for this wonderful gift!
Merry Christmas & Happy Chanukkah Druaga, and since I know you celebrate it, Merry Weedsmas/Danksmas !
Druaga1, why not use the two sata-3 connectors on your motherboard for these two Sandisk ssd's? Then you get the maximum speed. Yes, I know your Windows installation is on the Samsung ssd but that ssd sitting on a sata-2 connector is not as bad as it sounds. And it will still be bootable. You just have to change some boot settings in the bios. Look, Windows loves small files. Ssd's are fast with small files. You will only notice the difference between sata 2 and 3 if you are copying, zipping or moving very big files. On your Windows installation you do not. Just keep this Samsung on a sata-2 port for Windows (it will work just fine) and move your steam games and all the editing work to the Sandisk raid 0 array. Then you can even plug in your optical drives to the pci-e card, because the optical drive speed is so limited the pci-e x1 card can handle that one with ease.
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Many weed under weed tree , much ssds to raid :D
More old macintoshes and more videos :p
My cable management used to look like that too. Now I just crammed everything into the tight space on the other side of the case using a few zip ties
BlueHazard cable management??? what is that?
You're right that RAID stripe sizes set the minimum size for files on the RAID, however, 64k would be better for smaller files, and 32k would be better for larger ones.
The bigger the files you'll be dealing with, the smaller a chunk size you need.
I got alot for Christmas this year. A Macintosh SE, an iPhone 7, and now a Druaga1 vid? Nice.
+TLP29 Good luck without a headphone jack :D
PCI Express Lane Sharing is a big issue (even on the 40 Lanes 2011-3 Socket CPUs provide).
The good old "You're so small, it's funny to me!" from the Heavy.
the speed of the raid makes sense for pci-e 2.0. you lost a gigabit per second or about 100 megabytes per second in sata bandwidth
Hey druaga. I don't know if you seen that but both times it ran at PCIe 2.0 x2 speed (because it's an x2 card). You can even see that on 15:23 and 30:47
That last pci express slot actually connects to the phc. The south bridge. It's not the full speed. I had this issue on my setup an I just went x79 an a processor with the right pci lanes to accommodate the bandwidth
Kudos for you cable management
Thanks for a year with great videos Druaga, hope you had a merry xmas !
You could put an HDD LED in that hole, I think that may be the purpose. Would be more ideal for front panel though? So maybe some type of weird server setup....
Hey hey....Merry Christmas !!!!
actually a really good rig. the bottleneck could be the CPU. 8x and 16x PCIe slots aren't much different in speeds.
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Druaga, you're doing great man, I still enjoy watching your vids. Keep it up. :)
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label your drives so you can remember the order if/when the raid array borks up. I'd advise backing this up to a hard disk just to be safe 😃
Hey Druaga, if you tried to install the raid software do you think you'd get better results? Also, are you sure that using higher lane pci-e slots makes a low lane card improve performance?
I am a simple guy, i see druaga doin ssd stuff so i press the like button
And, i just realised that Druaga is not hgetrin any YT money, An youtuber who does YT for fun in 2016-(2017)? Wow, im amazed!
Druaga1, does your motherboard support an m2 ssd?
If so, you may consider it. m2 ssd's (especially the pci-e versions, not the sata versions) are 3 to 5 times faster than regular ssd's. I myself use a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M2 ssd on an Asus X99-A motherboard. Great board, and, if you use the right processor you got lots of pci-e lanes. I have the 5820k processor, so I am at a maximum of 28 lanes. My videocard is using 16 lanes so there are still 8 lanes left. The ssd is using 4 lanes and puts out speeds on average 2,500MB/s read and 1250MB/s write. And no hassle with extra cards, cables or power plugs. (I have a video about this ssd on my channel. If you are interested in how it looks, installs and works just check it out). Oh and you might find the Cooltek G3 installation video also interesting because I tried to mimic your way of making video's, say and do stupid things etc (like throwing three scissors to open a box while one would be suffice). Would be great if you left me a message there. Otherwise, happy Christmas. ;-)
Another big advice: USE SATA CABLES WITH CLICK SYSTEMS. The ones you are using are bad and come loose at any moment.
And some more: Disable Indexing on ssd's, especially if you are using them in a raid 0 configuration.
I was honestly tempted to buy two 1TB SSD and make a RAID 0 because they were cheaper than a single 2TB SSD.
Well, now... I guess the 2TB is worth the extra $?
The stripe size has nothing to do with file sizes. For any kind of flash drive your probably want to set it to 64K or higher (trying to match the native erase block of the flash drive typically 256K).
merry Christmas to you and everyone here.....love your good stuff entertainment :-)
lol, I love that you always know yourself that your results mostly are kind of... suboptimal ;D
A PCIe x1 card will only ever use one lane.
GreensladeNZ It's not a x1 card...
It's a 2.0 x2 card. PCIe x2 cards aren't very common, usually you see x1 or x4, which is why I think people are confused.
fuck the Christmas lunch, I have a druaga 1 video to watch 😂😂😂😂
That cable management inside the PC tho, makes me wanna puke....classic Druaga1
the problem with your TOP SLOT is that the CARD is a 2x card, but the top slot is only a 1x slot. this is kinda common. it's rare to find a PCIe-2x slot, you usually get a 1x and a few 16x.
Greg R PCIe x2 is also non-standard. Many motherboards do not support running at x2 mode, the spec allows for x1, x4, x8, x16, and x32 (only used on certain server boards).
I just got an SSD raid and the monitor doesnt even change resolution from the bios screen before the desktop lol
Druaga, you've already got a raid controller with the same or better capabilities built into your motherboard. The chipset on that board is basically an integrated motherboard chipset pulled out onto a separate board for systems that need more than their native amount of drives available.
As is that card is a bottleneck, and using the built in RAID will give you more performance with virtually no additional CPU overhead.
If you want a hardware raid, go with LSI logic with a supercapacitor write cache. That is the only way you'll gain any performance at all, it'll cost $400 and you'll see maybe 2-3% higher throughput.
the marvel ones might be good but are fake raid, as the ones on chipset or on board...
tmkoeln all consumer level RAID is 'fake RAID' because it's worthless.
I know, but you could buy refurb or used lsi or 3ware/adaptec sas raid controllers usually connected by PCIe x4 to x8 (which are compatible with SATA III HDDs/SSDs) of ebay for example for ~50 - 100 $ or €.
tmkoeln good point on the used/refurb. LSI really is the way to go for a real controller.
Yep, I know bought a refurbished 8 Port DELL Perc H310 Controller (LSI RAID) capable of providing SATA 6.0 Gbps off ebay in Germany for around 58 € including shipping
Druaga needs one of those big ass towers designed to host 2 whole PCs.
"...and thats the drive i was using for paging fole" immediately i think Why? "dont ask me why..." most interactive video ever XD
you really need to upgrade to an x99 platform if you need this much pcie lanes
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you should unless you want to sound dumb.
***** I may sound dumb to you but I still learned English as a second language which is still more than most people
well I do so as well, but that shit is beeing taught in 5th grade XD
Yeah Im software raiding 3 ssd's for my games drive, 2x older PNY drives and 1x 512GB SanDisk I lose about 30GB in raid 0 but I got 1.3TB of SSD's space with reads over 1200mb/s and writes and writes at 1300mb/s, I load into COD so fast that I have wait about 10 seconds before the 15 second count down starts at the beginning of a match.
Im not worried if I lose data on the raid if something happened, its just game files which can be re downloaded if 1 drive fails, no big deal.
I like the style of windows you're using, how'd you do that?
@4:38 I lost it oh man that description is over the top.
You would be better off putting the avermedia card in the 3rd x16 slot (slot 7 in the manual) and the raid card in the top x1 slot (slot 1 in the manual) above the video card, putting anything in the second x16 slot (5 in the manual) makes the first one (2 in the manual) run at x8 regardless of whether its a video card or not
Druaga, just get a SATA 3 PCI-E card to hook the boot SSD into and return the RAID card. Then hook the two 1TB SSDs into the two SATA 3 ports on the motherboard and setup the RAID there.
This looks surprisingly like my PC in terms of dodgy setups and loads of drives (except mine are optical drives)
dude, note that the raid bios says that it's running at 1x the whole way through
Merry Christmas Druaga 1
26:46 That looks an awful lot like a GeForce FX 5900 PCIe illustrated there, complete with the then ASUS style cheap heatsink with noisy fan. The odd memory arrangement and the HSIO heatsink near the connector are dead ringers.
Druaga=being able to fill up an inhumanely posable amount of space, but didn't account for that while building computer
2016 and you still have an optical drive........ Nice
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another video!!
That subtle heavy was funny
If I'm not mistaken PCI-e lanes with an intel system are controlled by the processor, so you may not need a new processor not a new motherboard...
Steven Randall CPU and the motherboard control PCIe lanes, however only 2011-x socket motherboards will increase PCIe lanes substantially. I doubt he needs 40 lanes. A BIOS update may allow auto-negotiation of the x2 card properly. Many motherboards will default to x1 speeds when it cannot sync at x4.
Ah okay. I'm on an AMD platform so all mine come from the chipset, but I knew intel's was different.
you should try doing a RAID array using Microdrives.
Merry Christmas everyone
I once accidently installed my g-card into an x8 slot.
When I figuerd it out, I did some benchmarks and turns out that I could have had 20% more performance the whole friggin time.
Well, time to watch a Druaga1 video with some NEW BLUETOOTH HEADPHONES FOR CHRISTMAS!
Cool thing you got. I got a NINTENDO 2DS! (not to be confused with regular DS. It's a 3DS without 3D. Plays all DS and 3DS games in 2D, AND COSTS 100 BUCKS ONLY)
I got a New 3DS
supermario18 cool!
I'll take this vid as a Christmas gift, if you don't mind
DRUAGA UPLOADS, TIS A CRISTMAS MIRACLE?
For Christmas I would like some druaga1 socks
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Would plugging your old mechanicals into the RAID also reduce the bandwidth of your new SSD setup when both the RAID and the mechanical are being accessed?
Lol Space Engine launched in the background and played the menu music, which I thought you put into the video to add suspense. When I realized it was the game, It lowered the suspense lol.
you should upload more often, try installing a new monitor into a all in one computer? like take out the mother board of it and try to make a monitor compatible with a custom port??? idk
You would probably get better speeds if you plug into you motherboard even if it is in sata 2 because sata2 X 2ssd is 750MB/s instead of pcie2.0 1x that is 500MB/s. this is assuming you can run raid on your motherboard.
Hey Druaga, You should try liquid cooling old PC's just for the fun of it!
I want to know how you can afford all these SSDs.
Great video.
Video of you building new PC would be great
Sandy Bridge really is starting to show its age by now, though for a 2011 CPU it's still functional.