That's what I thought too. I for sure thought that once all of them besides Maddy cause that was Kate's sidekick 😂 would choose to go live with John once they turned 18 and they're already 20 so that's crazy.
This family was NEVER a “seemingly perfect family” I couldn’t stand the way Kate treated and talked down to Jon. She was plain rude. I couldn’t understand how he could put up with Kate and tolerate it, but he loved his kids.
@@joycevierck7916Jon needs to grow up, and stop trying to use his kids to try and still get at Kate. He's all over social media, and does all these interviews making accusations or accusing Kate of doing something. You never hear from Kate, nor does she do interviews about Jon. He needs to grow up and stop trying to make everyone pity him.
Yas!!! I never watched this show until recently and I'm like... how the hell dis those two get together. Kids never had a shot because Karen.... I mean Kate 🤣🤣🤣 was one of them chics that I would sooo have to make an example of 😉
If Collin has mental health issues how did he get into military service. Me thinks that someone is not telling the whole truth. Shame on his brothers and sisters for not engaging with him for all these years. I think it's called brainwashed. SOOO sad!
@@LaraCroftEyes1 If you watch the old clips of when they were little and on tv the two other boys were always distant from him and were not accepting of him. Also when the camera's would have the 3 boys sitting together the other two would make fun of Colin's response when he would answer questions that they would be asked when there was nothing to make fun of him for. It was always Hannah who would engage with him and play so that is strange to watch that behavior in little ones. So I am not surprised Hannah teamed up back with him again when they got older. Kate always called Hannah the little mother cause she was always doing caring things for the other triplets. I grew up in a large family and its impossible for every child to get the attention they need and often there are the joining together with some siblings that go on for life. Everyone needs to grow up in time and lay down differences and know no one is perfect not even them and they can repeat the childhood behaviors that need corrected to continue on in life and not affect others in relationships.
You don't really get a deep mental evaluation when enlisting in the military. Not saying who is telling the truth one way or the other, but getting into the military isn't proof of mental stability.
Don’t forget to include how Maddie was a horrible bully to Collin which led to his behavior outburst and yet she’s just been allowed to fly free from this responsibility. All you have to do is go back and watch the old shows. She is constantly shoving him pushing him, or hitting him.why hasn’t she been called out?
Because she was a little girl with an abusive mom. Calling her out publicly is extremely inappropriate. That’s something that should be handled between Colin and Maddie.
Maddy is also the one who came home from school in a "BAD MOOD" and would go to Kate and John's bedroom until she felt like joining the family! Look bad at the episode. She was a nasty little girl who is following in her mother's footsteps!
@@XWierdThingsHappenX The apple didn't fall far from the tree! Maddy is just like her mother.... nasty adult! A bully as an older sister. I always protected my younger brothers as their older sister!!
@@debraronan8389 I won’t argue with that because you aren’t wrong. I just find it nasty to hold actions against someone they did as a child. When they aren’t even part of what happened. Hopefully she’ll see the light. Also pointing out going into a room alone when you are in a bad mood is actually really healthy coping mechanism. It isn’t nasty at all. Especially if you are being filmed. Like would you want to be filmed for the world to see when you were in a bad mood? I did that as a little girl and as an adult because I felt too overwhelmed and needed to calm down where I felt comfortable. It’s better to walk away than lash out. If we held everyone’s actions against them from childhood. There would be not many good people.
On one show the family went Christmas shopping and when they were ready to pay Kate told Jon to go stand to the side with the kids. Kate went to pay for their purchases. All of a sudden Kate was yelling across the store saying to Jon,"what are you doing? Can't you see i need help? " After they left the store she yelled at him for just standing there not helping her. But keep in mind, she told him stand to the side with the kids. I wondered then why Jon didn't stick up for himself.
@@sallyjonesreed5160if Jon would have stepped up to help, instead of putting everything on Kate, she wouldn't have treated him so poorly. Imagine having a husband that you can't rely on.
@@m.jaquarius8365that show was edited to make him look like he wasn't helping enough. TLC always has a scapegoat. He was a good, loving, imperfect real dad.
@@missyrose2154 She was a bully who abused her husband and her kids. She made her very young sick kids sleep on the laundry room floor so they would not make a mess in the house and so it would be easier to clean up after them. Most of us consider that child abuse.
@@missyrose2154 she lied about that. They were separated at the time and had already begun the divorce process. Divorce takes time in most cases. They were no longer together and Kate was seeing someone else as well. She still painted him as the villain.
I was the one who sit glued to the couch watching every single episode of their lives however after the divorce and trying to watch the Kate version ugh … it turned me off and I felt sorry for those children and for Jon too. Team Jon ❤
This family had a great opportunity - once upon a time. There obviously had to be cracks in the foundations of this family. Once the money was introduced, it was like gasoline to the already fragile situation. Their family went up in flames - and still has not recovered. Truly, I always did feel bad for them all. It's never a good thing when a family is ripped apart.
I do think Collin became violent at one point. But he only became that way because of his treatment by his siblings and mother. What else would a young boy being a pariah in his own family do after years of abuse?
I can’t even imagine Mady being in the customer service department! I would NEVER want to deal with her EVER! She hasn’t changed! And if I had a son interested in her I’d tell him to RUN! She’d be a nightmare to live with just like her mama!
Let's pay attention to how Colin has thrived since living with his father. He is doing very well and made great strides to become a successful young man in all his endeavors. He can be proud of himself. And Kate was and still is a horrible mom to him. Shame on her and the siblings that wont talk to him.
Where you got that information from? Most important, they are all educated, productive, Americans, which is a lot more than than some of the people whose making these negative comments can say for themselves.
@@missyrose2154exactly and she went back to work as a nurse. She supported all the children, not the father. He went back to court and got excused from ever paying his child support.
So sad for the kids. Given they would have split even if not on reality TV, being so public must have put so much pressure on everyone. Crazy they are all grown! I used to watch their show religiously and always thought Jon had the patience of a saint. What a shame the family is so torn apart.
@@NurseSue425 I ama retired RN. Since she is experienced she makes about 80,000 a yr. She has no kids at home now so she can get by. Her kids in college can get student loans like we all did.
Who the hell would send their kid away when they could send them to their other parent. And to totally abandon them. It's the stuff of nightmares & proves children need both parents involved or kids need a court liason to oversee stuff.
I’m happy to see that the older kids are doing well. I remember the show, the divorce drama. I’m VERY happy that no one is into drugs or other negative coping behaviors. I hope the younger ones go on to be happy & healthy as well.
When you choose to have eight kids you can expect to encounter problems. Plus one parent who is very self centred. Kate’s behaviour was very toxic to the upbringing of the children. The TV show did not help either. I am glad to hear the children all completed their education and will continue on to college. May they continue to grow to be outstanding adults and put the horror of their upbringing behind them.
Colleen was such a wonderful woman to Collin, Hannah, and Jon. I’m sad they didn’t work out but I’m so happy both Jon and Colleen were mature enough to allow the connection between Collin and Hannah to continue. Unlike Kate who doesn’t have that maturity level and parental alienation is her ‘thing.’
The smart one is the one that said she will never talk about her personal life there you go mind your business. Too bad other people can't have the same concept.
It is so sad how Kate created parental alienation with her kids towards Jon....The kids don't know anything different and is not their fault but they are adults now....grow up kids and forgive what your parents did to you....Contact your dad....he only had your best interest at heart..even though you have no clue...god bless you all
Toxic mother turning kids against each other and their father. Kate is a horrible human being but those kids who don’t speak with Hannah and Collin are old enough to know better. Shame on them and especially Kate
Some kids don’t turn out ok when parehts are not monsters tehy are grown it’s all on them now know mater how the parents were or weren’t some things come from family members from the beginning of time that could be way before the parents or kids as adults are who they will be no matter who of what
Kate is a total control freak who always came off as a mean, angry, unhappy person. I doubt she will ever be a happy person because she won't admit her own shortcomings and work on them. When one always blames their unhappiness on others because they can't see that they are responsible for their own happiness they will remain unhappy. Once one realizes happiness comes from within oneself and also from being grateful for everything you already have, that is when true happiness occurs!
I wish Jon all the best and happiness. And I hope Kate is alone and miserable. The nasty post she wrote about her son Colling was absolutely disgusting. Such a horrible woman
Kate was always a horrible woman. I hated her almost instantly when I saw an episode of the show. I didn’t watch it after that but I remember thinking Kate had borderline personality disorder. I also remember feeling sorry for her husband and kids. Looks like I was right. The family dynamics aren’t great.
If she is unemployed, how does she supports herself and family , she must have made a lot of money, A house , cars, nannies, and of course moey from sponsors .
Was a definite early 2000's show! Nobody could afford such a huge family without a reality show! U can see why they went their separate ways! Kate had to micro manage so many kids& show, he seemed like a deer in the headlights! He seemed hen pecked, his ego couldn't take it.Their relationship fell apart on national TV.
Bonnie’s on: What his ego couldn’t take was her yelling at him in public, belittling him, ordering his every move…so no, his ego couldn’t take it…Thank God ! 😮
Maddy was a younger version of her mother..which is why Kate was always challenged by Maddy until she was a young teen and then Kate and Maddy were buddies…two of a kind verbally abusing whoever irritated them. It was so hard to watch Kate screaming, yelling, sarcasm nonstop, nothing anyone did was good enough for her..and she made herself out to be the victim “poor me, I have to do everything “. I would love to hear from the crew that worked on that show as to how bad it really was, but Im sure they sign NDAs. If those ever expire they could write some serious money making books.
Funny. Jon has had two good, loving women after his hell with Kate. Kate? She'll die alone and bitter. The world saw exactly who and what she is. And it will never go away. Her behavior will live on the Internet forever. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don't take me wrong but Kate always seemed controlling, nasty and arrogant. She always has spoken with her ex husband like she was his "boss" and he had mental problems. Maddy, is the "Kate's Mini Me", Gosh, what a nasty girl!!! Hopefully she is now treating people differently than her controlling mother.
ALL THE BEST JOHN GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR KIDS... COLLIN WELL DONE I THINK IT WAS YOUR MUM WITH MENTAL HEALTH etc... CRAZY LADY😮 YOU MADE IT INTO DA FORCE GOOD LUCK GOD BLESS YOU
Who cares Jon can be in the public if he want to and the children can be in the public if they wants to so do the children if they want to they are all grown ups and there responsibility is how they do thing in there life.
Jon was absolutely right to demand she oit tjat money back in the trust fund. That money is for their children's furure not her lifestyle. If she couldnt afford to take care of the children with the other money she was making she shouldn't have had custody of them. But i also am aware behind the scenes she was so manipulative
Kate is the same woman that tried to sue the state she have the septuplets in. Saying “They allowed her to have 6 kids at once, they should be the ones paying to help raise them.” I was absolutely FLOORED!!
John wanted off the show. That is when Kate really started flipping out because she wanted the lifestyle that the money was providing. Watch the show!!!
@@debraronan8389 JON ONLY SAID HE WANTED OFF THE SHO TO MSKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE THE BETTER PERSON; HE DIDNT HOLD AJOB FOR YEARS AFTER DIVORCE, HE ALSO RAN THRU A TO OF WOMEN; DUMPED HISI FINCE WHEN SHE GOT CSSNCER, HE IS A MAN CHILD.
I hate, hate, hate when a parent uses their kids to get back at each other. This family is so divided and will never heal. TLC should be sued out of existence. They are dangling money on a string to greedy parents at the expense of their children.
I only liked Kate in the very, very beginning where she looked like a normal person and acted half-decent. Then she went all Hollywood and thinks she's all that. NOT
Yes, Jon didn't think it was good for the kids, but Kate wanted the money. The only reason the kids had college funds was because the state she ended up in once enforces it if kids are characters on reality or TH-cam shows
As a survivor of a narcissistic mother, I can can say with certainty that her screaming, shrieking and aggression to her children pushed her children to dark places! When my mother tried to push me down the stairs after punching me I wanted to hit her so bad! It was her and my sisters favourite game! To see how far they could push before I broke
I think 8 kids (6 coming all at once) was too much for Kate and she then to foolishly put herself on blast on tv for the whole world to see was her biggest mistake. She put herself under unnecessary pressure to be camera perfect and didnt have the patience for it and took it out on Jon. They'd probably have been fine but with the cameras rolling she lost her cool while Jon was just trying to be a regular guy. They seemed very much in love before the cameras came. I think Kate will look back later in life and realize the fame wasnt worth it and she behaved poorly.
Kate planned and did everything. Jon just tagged along and watched his phone. He never voluntarily helped to do anything. Put yourself in Kate's shoes and you might become frustrated, overwhelmed and less than patient with a spouse that always wanted to be somewhere else even before the 6 additional kids. He only wanted the twins. Ironic he ended up with just 2. Funny how he always harps on the $$$$ they made on the show when he never wanted to do the show. He even gave up his rights just so he wouldn't have to pay child support.
While no saint himself Jon has always come across like he cared about his kids. While Kate only seemed like she cared about the money they were making her.
It's horrible the treatment Collin received by Kate. Collin was a child and she sent him to an institute for his behavior. She never visit or checked on him. To this day, she never checks on him. She never loved him. She doesn't know what unconditional love is and she taught Maddy the same thing. They only know self love & what benefits them. Thank goodness, Collin has a father, sister (Hannah) to show what unconditional love is and support! Kate is pure evil. She's lazy. She looks for easy money without working hard. She stole from her kids to live a lavish life. Today, she is unemployed when she could be doing, working anywhere but she believes she is too good and thinks she's a "celebrity" that she can't get a "regular" job. She'll end up with someone old with lots of money so she can inherit it. Mark my words. Jon is such a great father. It's sad that other siblings can't see that because of their mom. Same goes for the children to rekindle relationships with Collin and Hannah and see how wonderful they are. Thank you Collin for wanting to serve for our country.
This video didn’t do Collin any justice. He was the “scapegoat” child and was abused and ostracized and isolated. Kate is a narcissist and it seems Maddie must be the “Golden Child”.. so of course she would side with their narcissistic mother. Kate ruined Collin’s life for her own selfish gain.
Don't think I would blame him for everything she is very controlling person would not listen to what he asked 😢😢😢😢😢 very sad these are not loving each other 😢😢😢😢 but glad they are leading good lives And careers ❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
These were clips from old videos, nothing new and, these are pictures that are already out there and, therefore, it really isn’t updated, people do re-record the same videos and, try to make them current when, they aren’t!
I honestly think kate did not wanna deal with collin thats y she used the other kids to do her bidding which was i dont need 8 kids we only need 6 kids i do pray all the kids will stop allowing to hurt each other I honest think its so sad that they wont alow them to have anything with their siblings or dad.
Kate had alway maintain she wanted to be rich and famous and would do anything to stay that way. Kate cut off contact from her own parents and siblings when they had concerns of her using her kids for fame. I swear that women sold her soul just to be a D lister. I use to love watching their reality show but the more you watch the more you dislike Kate and her bad attitude.
I couldn’t watch that show for long, you could tell that Kate was a self seeking attention all about me person!! They way she treated Jon, made me sick !!!
Kate was not the typical struggling single mom. She made a lot of money from TLC, it enabled her to live in a large house, with a team of nannies. She did not struggle.
He should write a book with his son. I’m surprised a doctor went along with her bull. Canada do not institutionalize children. Gawd America do better. I hope Collin gets healthy therapy for a better life
Well, it could of been taken when, he was in the Army ROTC Program,if you heard and listened to the video he was in that Program first before he went into the Marines! Which would still explain while he’s in a green uniform which tells you,pictures haven’t been actually updated!
He originally had his dream on the Marines. If you remember it was said on the Media somewhere that he had a “run in” with the law. I think it was something to do with the Car accident ? Anyway, YOU Cannot ENTER the MARINES IF YOU HAVE ANY kind of Charges pending or have a record. So his only Military option was the ARMY.
While no one knows what’s going on behind closed doors there were many red flags about Kate! Her anger, lack of patience , sharp tongue were all Warning signs . What I find the most horrifying was that she did not visit her son in the “ institution”. I don’t know any moms in my circle that would abandon her son. Maybe she was an adequate mother to her other children but she was terrible ( to put it mildly) to this one son . So so sad !
Maddie is a chip off the ole toxic Narcissistic Kate's block. They used Colin as the Scape Goat once John left. TOO BAD the other kids are brainwashed.
I wish Jon every happiness in the world.
It's surprising to see how many of the kids were still with Kate. Jon always showed better feelings and actually played and listened to them.
That's what I thought too. I for sure thought that once all of them besides Maddy cause that was Kate's sidekick 😂 would choose to go live with John once they turned 18 and they're already 20 so that's crazy.
Successful parental alienation
This family was NEVER a “seemingly perfect family” I couldn’t stand the way Kate treated and talked down to Jon. She was plain rude. I couldn’t understand how he could put up with Kate and tolerate it, but he loved his kids.
I always thought she was rude to him too
Kids are grown now there mother needs to grow up and stop being negative towards there dad, she's the one that jeeps the 💩going. She is awful 😖 😢
There is no such thing as perfect. 😅
@@LisaK65 So true! But they weren’t anywhere near a healthy, functioning, happy family or couple!!!
@@joycevierck7916Jon needs to grow up, and stop trying to use his kids to try and still get at Kate. He's all over social media, and does all these interviews making accusations or accusing Kate of doing something. You never hear from Kate, nor does she do interviews about Jon. He needs to grow up and stop trying to make everyone pity him.
I'm glad that things are working out for collin
GO COLLIN!!!!! So proud of you!!!!!
You did so good all the time.
It's scary that he is in the military! Hopefully he won't be using weapons!
@@daveshoemaker7137 Why? there is nothing wrong with him
@@abigaile3954 OK!
Kate strikes me as someone that always wants to speak with the manager wherever she goes.
Yep, she is the ultimate Karen!
She thought she was just better and smarter them everybody even her own family and husband.
And she had the original Karen haircut lol
Take away the haircut and you wouldn’t feel that way 😂
Yas!!! I never watched this show until recently and I'm like... how the hell dis those two get together. Kids never had a shot because Karen.... I mean Kate 🤣🤣🤣 was one of them chics that I would sooo have to make an example of 😉
If Collin has mental health issues how did he get into military service. Me thinks that someone is not telling the whole truth. Shame on his brothers and sisters for not engaging with him for all these years. I think it's called brainwashed. SOOO sad!
Kate lied about Collin having mental issuses.
Kate is the one who is mentally unstable! She is a raging narcissist
@@LaraCroftEyes1 If you watch the old clips of when they were little and on tv the two other boys were always distant from him and were not accepting of him. Also when the camera's would have the 3 boys sitting together the other two would make fun of Colin's response when he would answer questions that they would be asked when there was nothing to make fun of him for.
It was always Hannah who would engage with him and play so that is strange to watch that behavior in little ones. So I am not surprised Hannah teamed up back with him again when they got older. Kate always called Hannah the little mother cause she was always doing caring things for the other triplets.
I grew up in a large family and its impossible for every child to get the attention they need and often there are the joining together with some siblings that go on for life.
Everyone needs to grow up in time and lay down differences and know no one is perfect not even them and they can repeat the childhood behaviors that need corrected to continue on in life and not affect others in relationships.
I know Kate calls Hannah a little mother.
You don't really get a deep mental evaluation when enlisting in the military. Not saying who is telling the truth one way or the other, but getting into the military isn't proof of mental stability.
Collin thank you for your service to our country.
Sad but Maddy learned bullying from her mother!
So true!
Exactly!
Definitely!
The family continues to hog the limelight!
Monkey see monkey do. Kids are sponges.
Don’t forget to include how Maddie was a horrible bully to Collin which led to his behavior outburst and yet she’s just been allowed to fly free from this responsibility. All you have to do is go back and watch the old shows. She is constantly shoving him pushing him, or hitting him.why hasn’t she been called out?
Because she was a little girl with an abusive mom. Calling her out publicly is extremely inappropriate. That’s something that should be handled between Colin and Maddie.
Maddy is also the one who came home from school in a "BAD MOOD" and would go to Kate and John's bedroom until she felt like joining the family! Look bad at the episode. She was a nasty little girl who is following in her mother's footsteps!
@@XWierdThingsHappenX The apple didn't fall far from the tree! Maddy is just like her mother.... nasty adult! A bully as an older sister. I always protected my younger brothers as their older sister!!
@@debraronan8389 I won’t argue with that because you aren’t wrong. I just find it nasty to hold actions against someone they did as a child. When they aren’t even part of what happened. Hopefully she’ll see the light. Also pointing out going into a room alone when you are in a bad mood is actually really healthy coping mechanism. It isn’t nasty at all. Especially if you are being filmed. Like would you want to be filmed for the world to see when you were in a bad mood? I did that as a little girl and as an adult because I felt too overwhelmed and needed to calm down where I felt comfortable. It’s better to walk away than lash out. If we held everyone’s actions against them from childhood. There would be not many good people.
I know adults that were nasty as kids and they grew up to be nasty adults. Guess that is what happened to Maddy. She was a snit as a kid!
I wish them all well.
On one show the family went Christmas shopping and when they were ready to pay Kate told Jon to go stand to the side with the kids. Kate went to pay for their purchases. All of a sudden Kate was yelling across the store saying to Jon,"what are you doing? Can't you see i need help? " After they left the store she yelled at him for just standing there not helping her. But keep in mind, she told him stand to the side with the kids. I wondered then why Jon didn't stick up for himself.
Kate was such a witch to Jon and sad thing is Mady grew up acting just like her.
@@sallyjonesreed5160if Jon would have stepped up to help, instead of putting everything on Kate, she wouldn't have treated him so poorly. Imagine having a husband that you can't rely on.
Mentally deficient
@@m.jaquarius8365 LOL, okay Kate, or one of the 6 kids that don't talk to your dad anymore.
@@m.jaquarius8365that show was edited to make him look like he wasn't helping enough. TLC always has a scapegoat. He was a good, loving, imperfect real dad.
She was a Monster to John!
I totally agree with your comment
He was a cheat so I don’t blame her
@@missyrose2154 She was a bully who abused her husband and her kids. She made her very young sick kids sleep on the laundry room floor so they would not make a mess in the house and so it would be easier to clean up after them. Most of us consider that child abuse.
J O N 😊
@@missyrose2154 she lied about that. They were separated at the time and had already begun the divorce process. Divorce takes time in most cases. They were no longer together and Kate was seeing someone else as well. She still painted him as the villain.
Jon was treated bad by Kate. She treated him like another child. It was awful to watch. I am not surprised he left.
Jon is a man child. 🙃
@@oops541 NO HE IS NOT
@@oops541 YES HE IS HE SPENT YEARS NOT DONG MUCH FOR WORK. HE RAN FROM FEMLE TO FEMALE. HE WAS ALLEGEDLY SEEN ON HIS PROPERTY SMOKING POT. 😳
He deserved what he got! He's a loser! He thought he would never work again! Ask his girlfriends they know he's a loser!
@@JENKEN425 A total loser!
I think if Maddie has children she will be just like her mom. Very harsh and cold
I would hate to be one of Maddie's customers and I would hate to be one of Kate's patients.
I was the one who sit glued to the couch watching every single episode of their lives however after the divorce and trying to watch the Kate version ugh … it turned me off and I felt sorry for those children and for Jon too. Team Jon ❤
This family had a great opportunity - once upon a time. There obviously had to be cracks in the foundations of this family. Once the money was introduced, it was like gasoline to the already fragile situation. Their family went up in flames - and still has not recovered.
Truly, I always did feel bad for them all. It's never a good thing when a family is ripped apart.
I do think Collin became violent at one point. But he only became that way because of his treatment by his siblings and mother. What else would a young boy being a pariah in his own family do after years of abuse?
I can’t even imagine Mady being in the customer service department! I would NEVER want to deal with her EVER! She hasn’t changed! And if I had a son interested in her I’d tell him to RUN! She’d be a nightmare to live with just like her mama!
OMG!! I couldn't stand her when I used to watch the show. It's no surprise how she turned out.
I remember that Hannah was Kate's favorite. Odd that she would want to live with her father.
Kate wasn't Hannah's favourite in return xD. She saw through her mom's bs and manipulation, good for her.
And the money Kate stole was Hannah and Colins, not the others
Kate's PSYCHOPATH
Let's pay attention to how Colin has thrived since living with his father. He is doing very well and made great strides to become a successful young man in all his endeavors. He can be proud of himself. And Kate was and still is a horrible mom to him. Shame on her and the siblings that wont talk to him.
The mother stole money from her children, and they’re mad at the father.
Where you got that information from? Most important, they are all educated, productive, Americans, which is a lot more than than some of the people whose making these negative comments can say for themselves.
@@patriciajones6771Missing money from the kids trust fund.
She didn’t steal if the money was to care for her household and children ffs
@@missyrose2154exactly and she went back to work as a nurse. She supported all the children, not the father. He went back to court and got excused from ever paying his child support.
She stole from the two children that chose to live with John I've read...Collin & Hannah, not the other brainwashed ones that were wth Kate.❤
So sad for the kids. Given they would have split even if not on reality TV, being so public must have put so much pressure on everyone. Crazy they are all grown! I used to watch their show religiously and always thought Jon had the patience of a saint. What a shame the family is so torn apart.
Reality TV will either make you or Break you. Look at Mama June, that family is so split you'd think they will never recover.
Kate is an RN, she can work and make great money
Not like she was before. She probably makes 40/ hr which is really good. But not compared to before.
@@NurseSue425 I ama retired RN. Since she is experienced she makes about 80,000 a yr. She has no kids at home now so she can get by. Her kids in college can get student loans like we all did.
@@nancydavis4618she hasn’t worked in any nursing capacity in like 20 years.. she needs a whole semester herself
@@theGIGbetween I read she is currently working as an RN
Kate is worthless.
Who the hell would send their kid away when they could send them to their other parent. And to totally abandon them. It's the stuff of nightmares & proves children need both parents involved or kids need a court liason to oversee stuff.
Mean spirited women. There's a lot of them!
I'd hate to be one of Maddy's customers.....
I’m happy to see that the older kids are doing well. I remember the show, the divorce drama. I’m VERY happy that no one is into drugs or other negative coping behaviors. I hope the younger ones go on to be happy & healthy as well.
Thank God John got away from Kate. What a controlling witch she was. Didn't like her then, don't like her now.
She was controlling, @singlewhitefemale1707, but look at Jon. How many relationships has he screwed up? Too many! They are both failures.
@@dln7994 JON RAN THRU TOS OF WOMEN HE LEFT HIS FIANCE WHEN SHE GOT CANCER. HE HAD JOBS THAT CAME AND WENT FOR YEARS.
When you choose to have eight kids you can expect to encounter problems. Plus one parent who is very self centred. Kate’s behaviour was very toxic to the upbringing of the children. The TV show did not help either. I am glad to hear the children all completed their education and will continue on to college. May they continue to grow to be outstanding adults and put the horror of their upbringing behind them.
I love this Show. Thanks for sharing this Video. ❤
Colleen was such a wonderful woman to Collin, Hannah, and Jon. I’m sad they didn’t work out but I’m so happy both Jon and Colleen were mature enough to allow the connection between Collin and Hannah to continue. Unlike Kate who doesn’t have that maturity level and parental alienation is her ‘thing.’
The smart one is the one that said she will never talk about her personal life there you go mind your business.
Too bad other people can't have the same concept.
Which kid was that?
@@LaraCroftEyes1 Leah, I think.
Thanks.
It is so sad how Kate created parental alienation with her kids towards Jon....The kids don't know anything different and is not their fault but they are adults now....grow up kids and forgive what your parents did to you....Contact your dad....he only had your best interest at heart..even though you have no clue...god bless you all
Toxic mother turning kids against each other and their father. Kate is a horrible human being but those kids who don’t speak with Hannah and Collin are old enough to know better. Shame on them and especially Kate
If those kids turn out normal it'd be a miracle. That mother was a monster.
Some kids don’t turn out ok when parehts are not monsters tehy are grown it’s all on them now know mater how the parents were or weren’t some things come from family members from the beginning of time that could be way before the parents or kids as adults are who they will be no matter who of what
Maddie is in Customer Service???😮
Yes that’s weird cuz Maddie is like Kate
YIKES !
Maddie is just like Kate and a total nightmare. Learned at her mother's knee to treat others like dirt
Kate is a total control freak who always came off as a mean, angry, unhappy person. I doubt she will ever be a happy person because she won't admit her own shortcomings and work on them. When one always blames their unhappiness on others because they can't see that they are responsible for their own happiness they will remain unhappy. Once one realizes happiness comes from within oneself and also from being grateful for everything you already have, that is when true happiness occurs!
I have followed this family since the birth of the children.
Please, settle all your differences and.reunite
Couldn't watch this show! Kate was such a witch to her whole family, and the show should have been called "Kate+Kate!
Kate is a classic narcissist
You’re so right! And I was thinking she’s a bully, but narcissist is more accurate! Couldn’t watch the show because of her.
Kate was the classic "Karen." 😮
Very Narcissistic & Still a Karen
Hats off to Collin and Hannah !
The rest of the siblings ....no comments.
Your background music is way too loud!
Jon is so handsome and seems to be such a sweet soul ❤
Saw a dvd of this show at a goodwill today and immediately came to see a video like this. Haven't thought about this family in over a decade
The mother was so mean to her husband, so rude to him tanks god he is doing good and he's gorgeous kids god bless them,❤
I wish Jon all the best and happiness. And I hope Kate is alone and miserable. The nasty post she wrote about her son Colling was absolutely disgusting. Such a horrible woman
Kate was always a horrible woman. I hated her almost instantly when I saw an episode of the show. I didn’t watch it after that but I remember thinking Kate had borderline personality disorder. I also remember feeling sorry for her husband and kids. Looks like I was right. The family dynamics aren’t great.
You definitely were right! It's in the eyes, Kate always looked like a lunatic, an ill-tempered lunatic. Her gaze said it all.
in the end its Kate + Zero..
Mady is Kate’s mini me.
Kate gives me Ruby Franke vibes.
If she is unemployed, how does she supports herself and family , she must have made a lot of money, A house , cars, nannies, and of course moey from sponsors .
Spent it. Lost it.
SHE SOLD THE HOUSE. SHE GOT HOME IN NC. SHE WORKS AS A NURSE.
They use to live in 6 bd7 ba7,591 sqft mansion. Some of the money go to property tax 21k a year.
@@oops541 THAT WAS NT AMANSSION.
Was a definite early 2000's show! Nobody could afford such a huge family without a reality show! U can see why they went their separate ways! Kate had to micro manage so many kids& show, he seemed like a deer in the headlights! He seemed hen pecked, his ego couldn't take it.Their relationship fell apart on national TV.
Bonnie’s on:
What his ego couldn’t take was her yelling at him in public, belittling him, ordering his every move…so no, his ego couldn’t take it…Thank God ! 😮
Did you even watch the show?
Thank you so much for your video.
Sad what those kids have done. There going to regret their decisions.
Maddy was a younger version of her mother..which is why Kate was always challenged by Maddy until she was a young teen and then Kate and Maddy were buddies…two of a kind verbally abusing whoever irritated them. It was so hard to watch Kate screaming, yelling, sarcasm nonstop, nothing anyone did was good enough for her..and she made herself out to be the victim “poor me, I have to do everything “. I would love to hear from the crew that worked on that show as to how bad it really was, but Im sure they sign NDAs. If those ever expire they could write some serious money making books.
I look forward to reading the kids' books :)
Funny. Jon has had two good, loving women after his hell with Kate. Kate? She'll die alone and bitter. The world saw exactly who and what she is. And it will never go away. Her behavior will live on the Internet forever. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don't take me wrong but Kate always seemed controlling, nasty and arrogant.
She always has spoken with her ex husband like she was his "boss" and he had mental problems.
Maddy, is the "Kate's Mini Me", Gosh, what a nasty girl!!!
Hopefully she is now treating people differently than her controlling mother.
Kate treated everyone like crap sadly Collin was her main target after she divorced Jon.,
Sad how Kate went through all those $$millions!
ALL THE BEST JOHN GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR KIDS... COLLIN WELL DONE I THINK IT WAS YOUR MUM WITH MENTAL HEALTH etc... CRAZY LADY😮 YOU MADE IT INTO DA FORCE GOOD LUCK GOD BLESS YOU
Who cares Jon can be in the public if he want to and the children can be in the public if they wants to so do the children if they want to they are all grown ups and there responsibility is how they do thing in there life.
Jon was absolutely right to demand she oit tjat money back in the trust fund. That money is for their children's furure not her lifestyle. If she couldnt afford to take care of the children with the other money she was making she shouldn't have had custody of them. But i also am aware behind the scenes she was so manipulative
That show goes way back the young adults grown up where did the years good luck to everyone of the cast from the show
I imagine Kate doesn't get along well with others that's why she doesn't have a job.
She’s a nurse in Troutman NC and lives on Lake Norman, about 19 miles from me.😊
@@lisadishman2192Nurse Rachet!
Kate is the same woman that tried to sue the state she have the septuplets in. Saying “They allowed her to have 6 kids at once, they should be the ones paying to help raise them.” I was absolutely FLOORED!!
@@lisadishman2192 I am a nurse too. I can’t imagine working with her.
@@voniarichardson7945 I agree 🤣
The way she took family photos without Collin in them makes my stomach turn.
I hate how John was the one with all the bad publicity, she’s a true monster
Who cares. Its all about money! They both used those kids , shame on you both 😢😢😢
John wanted off the show. That is when Kate really started flipping out because she wanted the lifestyle that the money was providing. Watch the show!!!
Jon never used his kids.
@@debraronan8389 JON ONLY SAID HE WANTED OFF THE SHO TO MSKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE THE BETTER PERSON; HE DIDNT HOLD AJOB FOR YEARS AFTER DIVORCE, HE ALSO RAN THRU A TO OF WOMEN; DUMPED HISI FINCE WHEN SHE GOT CSSNCER, HE IS A MAN CHILD.
@@steviastemp False!
@@LaraCroftEyes1 Jon use his kid's money for his drinking habit and spending on his side chicks and date.
Whats the diagnosis for when a mother cant connect and hates one of her off spring?
THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love Jon, Hannah and Colin❤❤❤
Incoming cat lady!!! 😂😂
I hate, hate, hate when a parent uses their kids to get back at each other. This family is so divided and will never heal. TLC should be sued out of existence. They are dangling money on a string to greedy parents at the expense of their children.
I only liked Kate in the very, very beginning where she looked like a normal person and acted half-decent. Then she went all Hollywood and thinks she's all that. NOT
Yes, Jon didn't think it was good for the kids, but Kate wanted the money. The only reason the kids had college funds was because the state she ended up in once enforces it if kids are characters on reality or TH-cam shows
WELL SHE ISNT ANYONE SPECIAL. SHE JUST HAD ALOT O KIDS AND MADE A FOOD UT F HERSELF ON NATIONAL TV.
And even if it were true that he had done some aggressive things he was just a kid okay. What's Kate's excuse for her bad behavior.
As a survivor of a narcissistic mother, I can can say with certainty that her screaming, shrieking and aggression to her children pushed her children to dark places! When my mother tried to push me down the stairs after punching me I wanted to hit her so bad! It was her and my sisters favourite game! To see how far they could push before I broke
I think 8 kids (6 coming all at once) was too much for Kate and she then to foolishly put herself on blast on tv for the whole world to see was her biggest mistake. She put herself under unnecessary pressure to be camera perfect and didnt have the patience for it and took it out on Jon. They'd probably have been fine but with the cameras rolling she lost her cool while Jon was just trying to be a regular guy. They seemed very much in love before the cameras came. I think Kate will look back later in life and realize the fame wasnt worth it and she behaved poorly.
Kate is a 365 Karen, she’s a control narcissist
I'm glad Colin found his way to the military. It's a good choice for him. I'm glad he is thriving
Kate planned and did everything. Jon just tagged along and watched his phone. He never voluntarily helped to do anything. Put yourself in Kate's shoes and you might become frustrated, overwhelmed and less than patient with a spouse that always wanted to be somewhere else even before the 6 additional kids. He only wanted the twins. Ironic he ended up with just 2. Funny how he always harps on the $$$$ they made on the show when he never wanted to do the show. He even gave up his rights just so he wouldn't have to pay child support.
While no saint himself Jon has always come across like he cared about his kids. While Kate only seemed like she cared about the money they were making her.
Holding a childhood grudge shows how they will be as romantic partners. No forgiveness for you. Sad divorcedcand alone. Well done Kate
Even as a child watching my grandma watch this on tv, I felt Kate was very scary and harsh towards Jon as well as THEIR kids sometimes..
"Kate now lives alone"- not surprised 😅😅
It's horrible the treatment Collin received by Kate. Collin was a child and she sent him to an institute for his behavior. She never visit or checked on him. To this day, she never checks on him. She never loved him. She doesn't know what unconditional love is and she taught Maddy the same thing. They only know self love & what benefits them. Thank goodness, Collin has a father, sister (Hannah) to show what unconditional love is and support! Kate is pure evil. She's lazy. She looks for easy money without working hard. She stole from her kids to live a lavish life. Today, she is unemployed when she could be doing, working anywhere but she believes she is too good and thinks she's a "celebrity" that she can't get a "regular" job. She'll end up with someone old with lots of money so she can inherit it. Mark my words. Jon is such a great father. It's sad that other siblings can't see that because of their mom. Same goes for the children to rekindle relationships with Collin and Hannah and see how wonderful they are. Thank you Collin for wanting to serve for our country.
Prayers
GOD BLESS JON FOR BEING A SAINT! 😂❤ IDK HOW HE DEALT WITH KATE ALL THOSE YRS!
This video didn’t do Collin any justice. He was the “scapegoat” child and was abused and ostracized and isolated. Kate is a narcissist and it seems Maddie must be the “Golden Child”.. so of course she would side with their narcissistic mother. Kate ruined Collin’s life for her own selfish gain.
thanks.hope they are happy ,healthy and find God in their adult lives.prayers
Thank God Jon went an got Colin out of a horrible situation when his mom kicked him out of the house....she sent him to an institution....
Don't think I would blame him for everything she is very controlling person would not listen to what he asked 😢😢😢😢😢 very sad these are not loving each other 😢😢😢😢 but glad they are leading good lives And careers ❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
These were clips from old videos, nothing new and, these are pictures that are already out there and, therefore, it really isn’t updated, people do re-record the same videos and, try to make them current when, they aren’t!
I honestly think kate did not wanna deal with collin thats y she used the other kids to do her bidding which was i dont need 8 kids we only need 6 kids i do pray all the kids will stop allowing to hurt each other I honest think its so sad that they wont alow them to have anything with their siblings or dad.
Kate had alway maintain she wanted to be rich and famous and would do anything to stay that way.
Kate cut off contact from her own parents and siblings when they had concerns of her using her kids for fame.
I swear that women sold her soul just to be a D lister.
I use to love watching their reality show but the more you watch the more you dislike Kate and her bad attitude.
I couldn’t watch that show for long, you could tell that Kate was a self seeking attention all about me person!! They way she treated Jon, made me sick !!!
I raised two kids with zero help from the father.The thought of 8 I know I would not of been able raise them.
Kate refused to let John co-parent with their children, Kate also had a team of nannies helping her.
Kate was not the typical struggling single mom. She made a lot of money from TLC, it enabled her to live in a large house, with a team of nannies. She did not struggle.
He should write a book with his son. I’m surprised a doctor went along with her bull. Canada do not institutionalize children. Gawd America do better. I hope Collin gets healthy therapy for a better life
I thought Collin joined the Marines. This is a US Army uniform, not a Marine Corps uniform.
Well, it could of been taken when, he was in the Army ROTC Program,if you heard and listened to the video he was in that Program first before he went into the Marines! Which would still explain while he’s in a green uniform which tells you,pictures haven’t been actually updated!
He originally had his dream on the Marines. If you remember it was said on the Media somewhere that he had a “run in” with the law. I think it was something to do with the Car accident ? Anyway, YOU Cannot ENTER the MARINES IF YOU HAVE ANY kind of Charges pending or have a record. So his only Military option was the ARMY.
The video said ROTC in high school and then thinking about Marines. Could that be his uniform in HS?
While no one knows what’s going on behind closed doors there were many red flags about Kate! Her anger, lack of patience , sharp tongue were all
Warning signs . What I find the most horrifying was that she did not visit her son in the “ institution”. I don’t know any moms in my circle that would abandon her son. Maybe she was an adequate mother to her other children but she was terrible ( to put it mildly) to this one son . So so sad !
Those poor kids. Whatever their lives become, they won't be able to forget what they went through, being used by their mother for her gain.
3:55 lol that’s a pic of Leah
Maddie is a chip off the ole toxic Narcissistic Kate's block. They used Colin as the Scape Goat once John left. TOO BAD the other kids are brainwashed.
Too bad I missed the 2-mile Run I would have laughed my butt off seeing that happen.