Should You Buy Batman Arkham Shadow? (Spoiler Free)
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- Are you buying Arkham Shadow? Are you already playing it? What do you think?
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Once I finished covering the Batman Arkham series on my channel around 2 years ago, I made one thing, very clear. I said that I was happy with where the series was, and I didn’t want it to be continued past Knight; because the series was near flawless in my eyes and because a new Arkham game has the possibility of damaging a pristine series. If a new Arkham game comes out and it sucks, the previous games, in retrospect, can be tarnished. We saw this exact sentiment with Joker 2, a movie people felt was so bad that it ruined the first movie for them. So to say I was sceptical of a brand new Arkham game delegated to VR would be a massive understatement. But, at gamescom this year I was able to try a demo of Batman Arkham Shadow and to my surprise, it was exceptionally good. Speaking of that, I do want to say that while I am going to do my best to look at this game through an unbiased lens, I was given an exceptional amount of special treatment leading to this game's launch that cannot be ignored. I’ll talk about it more at the end of the video but essentially I was given, the game for free, a trip to gamescom, a trip to meta’s offices in Seattle, and I was given two free headsets, the Meta Quest 3, and 3S, and the developers were asking myself and others TH-camrs for feedback on the game and making changes based on that feedback. My goal here is to give a review of the game with my thoughts, specifically looking at the game both as a standalone product and as a console seller, because the console is the biggest barrier between Arkham fans and this new Arkham game.
Batman Arkham Shadow takes place after the events of Arkham Origins and sees Batman trying to decipher the identity of the Rat King, and doing so exclusively on the Meta Quest 3. Fortunately, along with the release of Arkham Shadow, there is the new budget inclined Meta Quest 3S. I’ve been using this headset for a few weeks now and can say that it’s a great budget way to get into VR, but I do not recommend you get this headset for just Arkham Shadow. Arkham Shadow is a roughly 10 hour game, so I can’t in good faith tell you to drop hundreds of dollars for that, but if you’ve been wanting to play a couple VR games, I think it’s a worthy purchase. I was actually going to get a Quest 3 last year to play Assassin’s Creed Nexus, but held off because I was moving, so I can say that long before any interaction directly with Meta, I thought the Quest was a solid choice, the biggest factor being that it’s wireless. But let’s put a pin in that for now and answer the question on everyone's mind. Is Arkham Shadow good? Does it tarnish the Arkham legacy? Should Camoflaje expect a pipe bomb in the mail? The answer is yes, no, and, we’ll see. Finally, as always, please watch more than just this review and I stress this especially because there's a good chance you’ll need to buy the headset too, so do as much research as you can.
Batman hasn't been seen since his latest entry, Arkham Knight. Batman Arkham Shadow is the latest Arkham game, a sequel to Batman Arkham Origins, but there's one problem. Batman Arkham Shadow, like Arkham VR before it, is in virtual reality. Batman Arkham has always been in 3rd person, so a Batman Arkham VR was not was fans were expecting from a new Arkham game. Fortunatley, this new Batman game, exclusive to the Meta Quest 3 and Meta Quest 3S, is down right excellent. Building upon the themes of Arkham Origins, this review will be completely spoiler free, potentially unlike other Batman Arkham Shadow reviews. This Batman VR review takes place entirely on the Quest 3S. Now that you have seen the Batman Arkham Shadow gameplay, are you going to buy it?
![Batman: Arkham Shadow - Chapter 1 [VR Walkthrough - 4K 60fps]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xy10ZhiEsK8/mqdefault.jpg)
What do you think about Batman Arkham Shadow?
I didn’t know it existed thanks making a vid
I’m going to say play the OG trilogy instead. Even Origins! Which I think should get a “remaster “ to modern systems
@@kaidorade1317 I wouldn't say "instead", but "first".
@kaidorade1317 A modder is releasing a "Batman Arkham Origins Reimagined" that looks like a proper remaster, and he already did the same with Asylum and City.
@@kaidorade1317sounds like u ain't got a quest
Just played 45 minutes of it. My hand hurts really bad because i got too immersed in the combat, and i punched the wall. Great game!
I also punched a wall while playing lol but thankfully it wasn’t too hard
Bro thought he was Batman
When in realuty, he was Man
I look at this game the same way I look at Asylum. Sure it isn’t perfect and has a few rough spots, but it’s the first attempt to bring Arkham to VR in an authentic way. Camouflage have already hinted that they are hoping to work on a sequel, so think of this as Camouflage’s Asylum. It’s their first attempt at an Arkham game, and it’s pretty damn good.
Where have they hinted at that? We don’t got a lot of VR franchises and that sounds quite cool.
@@ContrastCopy In the most recent Q&A they said that they hoped this game sold well because they don’t want this to be their last Batman game. It’s nothing concrete, but the VR community really needs a staple franchise to finally legitimize it. I’m a die hard VR fan and would die to see an Arkham resurgence in VR.
@@HeavyMorals hearing this may make me buy the game even as someone who hasn't played any Arkham games, VR just needs more games in general, the only thing that partially pushes me away is the meta exclusivity, I own a quest 3, it is the best overall headset on the market rn, but I also own a PSVR2 I use on PC and I prefer it sometimes depending on the game, and it just sucks knowing that I won't be able to play it with that headset
Asylum was actually really polished and finished
Sadly I don't think enough people own a Quest 3 for this awesome game to sell well. This game doesn't even have a metacritic entry. But we could still get a sequel if Meta pays them to do one. And Meta takes on projects that aren't profitable, because they're playing the long game and are doing what it takes to push the VR platform forward.
Arkham shadow even as vr game will be far better than what ever the hell is suicide squad kill the Arkham verse
we don't talk about that game
I'm pretending it doesn't exist for my own sanity. @@darkroninmarvel
"Even as a VR game."
VR games aren't inherently worse than flatscreen games. In fact, the gameplay and immersion is a lot better most of the time. The only thing they're really missing most of the time is budget and polish.
What is this suicide squad game? There is one?
This game is good. it doesn't have to be compared to that disgusting mess to look good.
The game perfectly translates the elements of a classic Arkham experience if anything it's a fine addition to the mythos I've seen the playthroughs.
This game is a fine addition to the the arkham universe and it seems to perfectly translate all the beloved elements of the franchise. I'm eating my words because initially my response the game was one of dismissal "it's just another gimmicky game".
Seeing the interviews and the respect the devs have for series convinced me and I'm not fault them for making a game for VR (it's what they specialize in).
The hate largely came from Rocksteady's recent failure and hunger for a good DC games. These guys showed more respect to the mythos than the studio that created it.
Ive only played through the sewer section at the start but its great so far. The combat really makes you feel like Batman.
HE SAID IT
How strange it will be if the best stealth experience of 2024 ends up being a VR game
I hope people start treating VR more seriously! It won't replace traditional gaming, but I think things like stealth and tight level design work really well in VR.
@@Drstrange3000did u see the live chat for the Arkham shadow premiere? All the chatters were clowns hating on it for being VR. I don't think it will be taken seriously any time soon, it's going to take time
@@Drstrange3000vr is goat
@@Drstrange3000 I dismissed it as a gimmick but after seeing the passion from devs and respect they have for the mythos. Then seeing the game in action. I'll happily eat my words.
Stealth in VR is something else. You can gauge how far you are from your target, and you can intuitively lunge or attack to take them out.
I am only on the first mission and this is already the most impressive and immersive VR game that I have experienced.
I was already interested in getting the quest 3s and this sold me on it, excited to get both!
For anyone whos skeptical about VR, i totally understand. Up until now its not quite had the depth or visuals but it is now a good time to give it a try.
Batman is the start of a chain of games that will be very immersive and thats what you cant conprehend until you try it, how immersive the experience is. You're not playing as batman, you are him.
If a friend has a quest and batman, arrange giving it a try because most people cant believe how fun it is when you play a top tier game.
Bro I'm so excited for this. Getting it for shadow mainly at first, then I'll move on to previously released games for the headset and utilize any game on my pc. Can't wait to develop my own things as well
Only played the daredevil vr teaser at a verison store and some star wars game at dave and busters and I'm YEARNING for my own
I recently watched a buddy of mine play through the Vader Immortal series. I've played it myself, but I think I almost enjoyed watching someone else react to it even more. There are other Star Wars VR games, but I really enjoyed the Vader Immortal series. Using the force in VR feels incredible.
Daredevil vr ?
@jadenthecommenter it was just a stationary advertisement for like season one or two of the show. It showed you abt three locations and you got to stand near the suit at the end.
Can't for the life of me find it on youtube though or I'd link it
This and half life alyx are the best VR game overall I've ever played. I always think about how insane VR tech would be by now if the tech had took off and there was a billion dollar market instead of flat screen games. I think we'd be being close to unimaginable immersivness by now. Hopefully we'll get there in my lifetime
One thing that ruins these games for me, is that there are several headsets on the market but so many vr games are exclusive to the quest. I have an older rift just laying around becauee most of the games id actually want to play are exclusive to the quest, and nobody should buy a second VR headset for a game.
Bro this is an EXCELLENT review, thank you! I hope you continue dipping your feet in VR, there’s soooo many fun games out there
why’d they release this on a monday 😭😭😭😭
i want to play it so bad but i got shit to do
By the time mine finishes downloading on my slow as molasses internet, I will also have sh*t to do 😭
@Drstrange3000 I have fairly decent internet and mine still took like 4 hours to download.
Loads of great experiences on Q3 so this is one of the cherries on top..as for the strap ...flip a baseball cap and wear it over the top..works great and it's free
Just played it and holy shit its amazing
Crazy how people were hating on it before they saw any gameplay revealed
Based on the finger guns I think you might be the best Batman to date.
Quest 3s:quest 2 trying to be a 3
Quest 3: Im sadly the best meta has
9:50 i love this so much lmao
My favourite vr game and one of my favourite batman experiences of all time. The Arkham series is my favourite series of all time and id place this 2nd on my list of all time favourite arkham games.
I'm sad that this game is VR only since I can't play VR games but I'm really happy that the devs made such a good job
My one personal deal-breaker is that it's exploration is more indoors, and not nearly as much outdoors over the city rooftops and streets.
The first CGI teaser had me HOPING it would be like Arkham City/Knight in it's open world, but I'm guessing the headset couldn't handle that without a big graphical cutback.
I think that's ok, long they do well what's within those limitations.
They did mention the map size is more like arkham asylum
Baby steps. If this game does well the next game will have a higher budget and probably add open world traversal.
@@Throbingkcoc The budget for this was through the roof for a Quest exclusive.
But the open world design was likely due to the hardware, if they wanted to retain it's graphical quality.
How funny/sad is it that a small studio making a VR game, had more respect for Arkham and Batman, than the Tourists at the "NEW" Rocksteady did.
Honestly I still don’t have vr headset which is a shame because this game looked fun.
It was so obvious the Rat King was Master Splinter the moment he entered the story.
CHILL WITB THE SPOILERS
Combat reminds me of the training sequences in the Creed VR game
Great Review Aqua! Have you tried Blade and Sorcery on VR?
Now we need a horror VR game as a thug being hunted by Batman
The first person segment of Arkham Knight had me scared as it was but a survival horror out running the Batman would be terrifying
Just because something has a bad sequel doesn’t mean it ruins the original. That’s like saying suicide squad ruined Arkham games. And clearly it didn’t because you didn’t say that.
Edit- further more please don’t start out a sponsored video like this, I feel like you trying to send the message that you are would be highly critical to the game if you didn’t like it. I’d much rather you just say “hey, this video is sponsored, so I’m gonna show off the game and talk about it” don’t try to make it a review. We get it. We would all take that deal. Just own it. Please.
It's amazing. I would tell anyone wondering it's a must buy. I mean maybe not if you dont like Batman. It's so good. They nailed it. SO immersive too.
I just hope that as gamers we become more patient and less cynical towards VR games. When the announcement for this game came out, I remember the absolute negative backlash to it.
Batman AS is unbelievable! 🤩
I bought myself a 3 mainly because of arkham shadows and i got it for free when i got it but i planed on playing other vr games as well so its a very good investment
Cant wait to get home and start it now
The one thing I want from stand alone VR is being able to interact with everything. I know it’s not a PC playing Half-Life Alyx but if you put something like a fridge or anything a chair anything the best part of VR for me is interacting with it all.
3:45 the multiple punches looks so ridiculous on this one, exactly like my three year old hits the pots when he's playing a drummer.
i mean that's how the guy punches
He punches like a gorilla
@BestGame215 yes I know 🤦♂️ And it looks ridiculous.
@@lepari9986stop being salty.
your hooks are being misread with your wide and quick swings. that jolt to the side is causing that direction to be your input. slow down on the wind up or go for a cross jab.
I think your right but damn it feels so good to go fast it almost makes me feel like Batm-
@@ThatBoyAqua Batman winds up his hits too though :)
Well Asgards Wrath 2 comes with Meta Quest + now which is also included in a new Quest 3/3s purchase so it’s definitely worth it
If you want to play more great vr games on quest, I recommend you to try Into The Radius. Its pretty close to be stalker in vr 😊
Great review btw 👍
metro awakening and also into the radius 2 quest 3 are things look forward to
I would've bought it by now if it was not Meta exclusive. I think at the very least these games should consider porting it to steamVR so that a majority of the VR headsets available could be used with it. As it stands, its another one that i will end up missing out on unfortunately. I will say Camoflauge have done a great job based on the footage i've seen. iron man vr was also a great game at the time minus the story.
There is no way they will port it steam
@@moesotakumeta owns camouflage so it's very unlikely. It would be great if they developed a better relationship with valve though. I want hla standalone on the q4
Answer is yes
and wouldn't you know it, I happen to be on holiday for a week right when the game releases.
The Game itself was really good, the story was interesting, and the pacing was perfect. I really love the inspiration they took from Arkham Asylum as it is my favorite of the series. HOWEVER: MY GOD is the game broken, almost nothing worked, at the start of the game I got soft locked because a gate was clipping through the floor stopping me from climbing through a vent. Without over exaggerating, the amount of times that I was either soft locked because progression didnt work, got stuck in a room, predator sections were empty, or my game just straight up crashing was at the VERY LEAST 20 times. The game isn't that long its about 6 or 7 hours in length, so trust me when I say with each and every soft lock I got more and more frustrated, the final mission of the game just KEPT breaking for me it was so frustrating I genuinely started crashing out. I'd wait to buy this game a couple of days later when they release a patch as it'll (Hopefully) fix most if not all the problems I had.
bit of a spoiler but
The falcone fight at blackgate really took a number out of me, I dunno if i was just being delusional but i swear that boss fight was wild.
I aint complaining about it btw, it's a good fight.
Off topic: I absolutely disagree on a new entry "ruining" a previous entry. If an old entry was enjoyable before the new entry, then it's still good now. Even in the case of retcons, the term *retroactive continuity* admits it wasn't that way from the start, and so the old entry still works as originally intended.
On topic: Great review! The developer interviews have been really selling me on buying the cheaper Meta Quest 3S ($300) because Shadow is just looking to be so quality and lovingly made. I looked on the Meta store and there seems to be a pretty swell collection of games on there. Shooters, melee/sword combat, traversal games, and even funny looking titles such as "Gorilla Tag" and "Hide the Corpse." I think I'm gonna take the plunge.
i love how nobody brings up sushi squad
I’m excited to play this myself, but I can’t also help but to imagine how good this would look if it was on PCVR as well
Exactly
My regret is that I bought meta quest 3 the expensive version early to play Batman then heard news cheaper version coming out with the game on it and now I’m also buying game I did play other games like iron man,Vader immortal and assassins creed but Arkham shadow looks to be best game
If you bought in late September just talk to the meta team they will give you the credits to buy the game I just got it today the same way I got mine on September 20th
@@Akk1cswait hiw
You came out with the better headset for the long run. I haven't really looked in to the 3S, but I believe that one is more a less a slightly upgraded Quest 2. I don't think you will have any regrets with the 3.
Also you should try out Asgards Wrath 2.
Quest 3 is better then the quest 3s.
Feels like you have 400k subs
I just hopea fingers crossed that this game comes to psvr2 later
Finally get sequel to Arkham origins but its a VR game, true monkeys paw.
"VR" yeah, that's gonna be a pass for me
Does it have a seated mode, I'm in a wheelchair and play a lot of VR but some games don't have a button crouch option and from the footage there is a lot of turning to fight different enemies, what are the turning option in BAS?
I want another Iron Man vr game
Real question is when are going to make a Superman game
Joooo that looks pretty nice 😮
Idk I'm worried the combat doesn't look that fun like it tells me what I have to do to fight is it more fun than it looks
I will never play any 1st person vr game because I like actually looking at my character, not just their hands.
The whole point of VR is immersion.
Immersion?
I don't agree or understand when you say a bad game can ruin the whole series. That doesn't make sense to me. Joker 2 was bad but did it ruin Joker 1 for me? No. Why would it? If Arkham Shadow was horrible, it wouldn't ruin the other games. Why would it? I just don't get why you said that
And maybe I was just dumb but I had no idea who the rat king was until the end
I unfortunately dont have a meta quest and wont be able to buy for a pretty long time. Honestly f*ck Camouflaj for making it an exclusive.
Also we dont need kevin Conroy tbh he will alwayss be the best batman ever but roger Craig sound soo much like him
Can you turn off the UI? Like the combo numbers etc. way to big and over bearing
Wish this wasnt quest exclusive
Just to think if this had a PC behind it. Its tough to think about. Thank god behemoth,aliens and metro are coming to pc.
Have you played Iron Man vr
the footage unrelated at 9:47 fgdg
Gonna just casually wait for it to come to SteamVR or PSVR2.
Ain't giving Zuckerberg money when a little waiting is all that's needed.
It's not coming to PSVR2. The Quest 3s has sold 25,000 units in the last 5 day and will probably sell alot more this holiday season. This is a system seller and Meta isn't going to let that escape their grasp.
@@Throbingkcoc Counterpoint: Warner Bros like money and sales will slow eventually. You really think they aren't gonna port it the second the contract closes with Meta or the money dries up? Lol.
@@PlebNCthe game belong meta not wb. Even if meta port to other (which they will not) you still end up paying zuckerberg
@@PlebNCMeta developed the game themselves. This isn't a situation where meta paid for exclusivity from another developer, they made the damn game. (Camoflaj studios is part of meta)
@@randomseer Cool story. However Warner Bros has the rights to Batman games so if they say jump, Camoflaj will ask how high, as Warner Bros controls the pursestrings and whether to delist the game or not. Additionally Meta can't have the game published without Warner Bros' approval and if WB wants to they can request all the code and assets from Camoflaj and get a different studio to port it as all code and assets are technically WB's property under their publishing rights.
You cannot grab a policeman’s gun cause Batman doesn’t use guns
I Would buy it 100%. But I only got psvr2
Let me guess, the Rat King is Joker.
Nope
Lol rat king is a batman character
Can we pick up a baseball bat from the ground and hit it?
Can you play Blade and Sorcery it’s great
You’ve come so freakin’ far, Aqua. It’s so cool to hear that they invited you for feedback and all!
Crazy how this game is only 2 hours shorter than spiderman 2
I got a quest 2 uegh
Yeah, idk about this one chief.
How so?
Hoping to eventually see this on playstation no way i'm buying another vr headset
Nah its always gonna be exclusive
It’s unfortunate in many ways, but there’s no shot it’s coming to other platforms.
Yeah it would be cool to see on PSVR2 but I highly doubt it, this game was basically made as an exclusive to sell Quest headsets
The new arkham game needs to be remodled to ps5
Need to wait for sony to make one😂
@@moesotaku no lie I'm boutta buy a vr it might be that time
there aare in fact some spoilers
What stuff? Let me know and I’ll blur it out
if it wasnt vr id buy it in a flash
Hands down the best VR experience I have had since Skyrim VR. Granted I haven't been able to play Half Life Alyx so don't destroy me in the comments.
This game seems cool for the stealth sections but VR seems like a complicated endeavour. Plus I got so many games I can play on controller and VR would just double my already large list of games, the idea of moving around while playing does sound cool admittedly, the idea of possibly doing exercise while playing games. I might look into it someday, it could take years even.
I havent even finished playing arkham asylum. I recently just purchased my first xbox360 😅
Watching this review legitimately made me nauseous. Do not watch this review or play the game if you’re prone to motion sickness. It’s bad enough that SSKTJL is canon to the Arkhamverse but this VR crap as well? No thanks.
It's really not about the game but the platform for me...
Yeah I’ll leave this one alone. I’ll enjoy it from a far. Kudos for getting this for free and that’ll be the only way I’d ever get this game.
I'm so happy that this game lives up to the Arkham legacy and is a great game but it also just makes me more upset that most people (including myself) will probably never be able to play it
I wouldn't say most people. This is going to be a system seller.
@@artofgarduno even if it is, most people don't have the disposable income to drop hundreds of dollars on a headset. Even the ones who do might get motion sickness or just don't like VR
@@anomicsly5854 but most people that have a PS5 can afford a 300 VR headset.
So... ☠️vsjustice league is part of the Arkham universe😂
Combat looks very scripted
How
@@Scuffedduck117lemme rephrase, IT IS scripted. Having played it, you must follow the combos that are given to you on screen. Since there are only so many combos in the game eventually you will have done all of them over and over. Really was hoping for physics based batman game. Nightclub simulator still has the best hand to hand combat out of any vr game and it's physics based. That combat makes me feel more like batman than this game combat wise. Plus I don't even need to try, I can just move my controllers back and forth super fast and it still does the combo for me LMAO. Combat is definitely the weak part of this game. Everything else is good though.
@@zeeksy6276sadly I agree. Game is great but combat is kinda goofy. Doesn't have that brutal feel that the 3rd person games have, physics based combat almost always feels more brutal. I was really looking forward to grabbing a goon and throwing him through a window. Or actually physically grabbing a goons leg and breaking it like in your example nightclub simulator. Breaking bones in that game is perfect for batman.
@@zeeksy6276 seems like the issue might be your expectations of what the combat would be.
Ain’t no way I’m dropping $800 on a 10 hour game lol
$800 ?????
@@Actualchristianity yup lol
I mean there’s other games on there as well… and the highest price Im seeing is $500 USD
Where did you get 800 for the 3s? Do a bit of research before you talk sh1t!
@@mullz113 the 3S is $299 and the 3 is $499…
Wow you really got sucked off by meta
Hard pass , paid shill
I bought it and it's fun. Don't miss out because meta flew this guy out and gave him a handy
Don't be childish
Arkham knight was horrible