@@nathanielthomas7642 lol, I actually found it funny, I would have added king to but I think there can only be one king in this comment section, but you are definitely funny man.
I honestly like watching the people that have less than 100 viewers in their streams because they are more likely to read your comments than a huge youtuber streaming
Toast and Lud really give people the straight dope on the realities of being a streamer and how to get started. Wouldnt be suprised to see a collab in that direction. "Toast's and Ludwig's streamer camp" or something to that effect. Would surely help a great deal of people and make the field of available content more diverse!
99% of people just want the benefits that comes with being a big streamer - money, not having to get a job, work from home, work on your own schedule etc. 5% of people like to actually stream and create content and be on camera for 8 hours every day. If you are not in the 5% you will never get the benefits that 99% wants
@@andrewferguson6901 Yeah this “good content” just needs to be decent/work, not the best of the best, but hey that’s a plus. And most important is advertising.
If I had kept grinding on twitch with long streams everyday like I did the past 3 years, then I would not be nearly as successful on twitch like I am now. The majority of my following has come from both my Tiktok and TH-cam videos and honestly, ever since I started my youtube channel, I have come to realize that I enjoy making videos so much more than actually streaming to a live audience.
@@AxxLAfriku I got bullied as well for being the quiet one. But if you're getting bullied because of your videos then you probably deserved it since you've done nothing but doing the same shit over and over spamming here spamming there. What I really don't like about people is intentionally receiving "hate" for themselves.
I've watched/read a bunch of these "tutorials" on how to be a streamer/content creator and Toast is right. It really just boils down to "Why should someone watch youu or your stream?" EIther be reallyyy good at a game or be reeallyy passionate about something that you end up creating content that you want to share with people. Anything other than that and you would just be doing it as a hobby with no real goal in the future. I unfortunately have none of those qualities lmao
I had 12 viewers for the first time after a small raid and it felt so awesome. Be a cool person and interactive because you can engage with other streamers and build connections. I'm still no affiliate but interacting with a lot of chatters was definitely a wholesome experience.
@frosteeosThats my usual unless im playing league where i can plug myself. I did have a raid of like 36 which was cool and a record. Talk to other smaller streamers and try to network
As a day one Hearthstone player, I witnessed the gradual rise of Toast firsthand. I remember after not playing the game for a couple of years I started seeing his name outside of the HS community and it made me so happy. Great advice from someone who truly knows what it takes and has done it.
I had no clue who Toast or Ludwig was until today. Shout to them for really helping others and not gatekeeping and even if you don't wanna be a streamer they still give a lot of good advice and its GOOD content.
Not facts really. The prices he listed were way too high for what most people actually buy to get started. Nobody is spending 3k on a streaming pc just for streaming, decent mics dont cost $100 minimum you can get decent mics for $35, a lot of people dont event have web cams when they start let alone spending $100 on a new one, they would just an old one or a cheap one. He never covered the 3rd option, finding a niche category with low streamer counts to grow a dedicated following for that niche category. A good example is classic COD zombies, not many people stream it, but a decent amount of new people watch it for nostalgia. I know several streamers including myself who got a fast boost from this, I went from never having streamed to affiliate in under 2 weeks which is pretty damn good. I spent maybe $30 total for my stream after 3 months for things like spotify, bttv premium etc.
@@sncaterd it's like you didn't watch the video at all. He literally said not to prioritize these equipments but rather start off on making content and get some attention before streaming.
ive been trying to be a big streamer for 8 years now. only at 8.7k on twitch. thats averaging 1,000 followers a year. which is actually good, but im here because i want to take it to the next level. thanks for the tips
Toast: *gets signed by Twitch* Toast: "If you wanna be a streamer, don't use Twitch." Less competition. BIG BRAIN PLAY. Kidding aside, this was actually a great advice.
Things i learned 1. be good at a game 2. Donations and drama and reactions 👤 3. Twitch no good for beginners 4. Tiktok good for starters 5. Face reveals
fact that Toast acknowledged that every streamer on Twitch are competitors yet still went ahead with sharing this heartfelt advice shows how much genuine of a person he is
So, rather than listening to the main point he is trying to make, "Get big on other platforms with better discoverability," I made a list of what he actually did. 1. Post to reddit for one year about something he was passionate about. 2. Make a 14 second viral clip of a unique Easter egg he personally in the game he played. 3. He went live to 100 people for his debut. (Literally 100x more than the average person) 4. Make sure he was anonymous this entire time and then face reveal to create insane hype and explode in popularity. 5. Be at the top of the Twitch page shortly after debut. My key takeaways: 1. Be passionate and good at the game/thing you want to stream. 2. Take notice of what people are already enjoying in regards to your chosen subject. 3. Make content with maximum effort and post it to a platform with good discoverability. 4. See if people like it, and adjust accordingly.
Appreciate this so much!! The honesty, the confidence, and the intent to help talented people - thanks for being so kind Toast!! Wishing you the best of luck, fun, and joy onwards on twitch!!
This just confirmed my theory that youtube is better. I'm a noob streamer on twitch and one random day i decided to link my twitch to yt and started exporting my streams and clips as youtube shorts and damn, i have much more views. My twitch clips get 1-3 views while yt shorts get 500+ views. Now I am going to start properly streaming on youtube or make youtube videos. Wish me luck yall
Hey another piece of advice for everyone! Remember that your Twitch vods are basically free content for TH-cam. They may not perform well but it will drive people's attention to your Twitch channel.
It's definitely a lot easier to blow up on youtube than twitch. TH-cam actually bothers to recommend small channels, it's not rare at all that I get recommended videos with literal 0 views.
This is the best advice I've seen in a while! I wanted to stream on twitch but I opted to start on a youtube channel first to build a community to avoid the 0 viewer reality if I went with streaming first.
This is great advice! I've always wanted to become a content creator but I have no idea where to start and if it'll kick off. Over-thinking every detail xD I appreciate Toast being honest and giving out helpful tips. Good luck to the streamers who are doing their best rn! Don't give up
all i'm wanting from twitch atm is like 10 consistent chatters and 20 viewers. Like i dont wanna be huge. I made the mistake of starting on twitch, this vid helped alot
Finally someone with actual GOOD advise, not just "advise" copied and rephrased from elsewhere. That's why you'll always be a legend, Toast! Haven't seen you for 6 years since I was last playing HS. I am really happy to see you are still relevant and playing a bunch of stuff.
Thanks for the advice Toast, i wanna share what im going threw right now with building up an audience on TH-cam/Twitch. So i started with youtube around 4 years ago and were hopping on the Apex Legends.exe meme video train. I made a couple of videos that were pretty bad at first and almost gained no views and subs. But as i become better with editing and found my own editing style, i got some videos that relativly blew up. Some gaining over 10k views and some almost 50k which was really much considering i had only like 200 subs at this point. I just reached 1k subs last week and im really proud of that achievment, the most sad part is that i completly had to drop that Apex.exe videos because at some point like 1-2years ago the servers got so bad that i wasn't able to play at all, so the more time went by the less i played apex and i lost all fun and interest in playing it due to bad game performance, i only dropped a video once in a while because i felt i had to keep up to not dissapoint my community. Kinda at the same time back then i found a new game called Super Buckyball Tournament which i absolutly fell in love with. And since this is a really new game there were almost no content creators at all, when i joined. So i thought: "hey my plan is too build an audience completly around this game, try to become one of the best players in the game (I''m TOP 5 rn). The game is still in beta and will release probably early next year, but i took the time the last 2 years and made as much content as possible. My big hopes are now that when the game releases, it will have a good marketing campaing and gets advertised enough, so the game actually blows up and gets noticed by more people. So if it goes big i already have the big + of being a really really good player, so people might just wanna watch me for that, another + is making good content like guides, so people will likely to watch some of my guides to get better at the game, then i also do memes and funny moments videos. So im basically covering more type of formats all based around the game, so if the game really goes big, i have everything ready and prepared to go crazy on launch and fire out content left and right. In the time the game is not available (because there are only playtests every few months) i still stream other games and im really happy that i see people that coming from the buckyball community come watch me because of my personality and not only because of me playing the game in the first place. What im trying to basically say with this big text is: I think that trying to get big in a game that is very popular is a really big challange. If there is a game that you really enjoy that might not be a mainstream game like valorant,csgo or fortnite, it might be also worth trying to build an audience around a smaller game. it might be a double edged sword, surely you will be recognized more likely due to the lower competition but the people that look up that smaller game just might be not that high aswell. But maybe this might aswell be a good opportunity to build an audience, if you have a smaller game that you really like. Anyway great video
If there's dark backgroud than it would be hard or impossible to read chat messages in overlay. But then again, services that offers chat overlay doesn't have outline options for test.
5 months late I just want to say that this is probably the realist "how to become famous" vids I have witnessed. Tho I don't see myself shooting for at least partner on twitch, I would like to have a better daily average viewer count and it doesn't help that I am a veriety/speedrunner channel. I speedrun Mega Man games mostly and sometimes COD Zombie maps when I know how to, and then I turn around to become decent CODBOCW player. Even as far as working on a YT series for a game I just started playing a month ago. Thank you so much for the tip(s) and the honesty I can genuinly hear in your voice. Not only you have my like, you also have my sub. that sub button is no longer red. keep grinding, DT
If you need data for a video like this again, sullygnome is your place to go. In the last 365 days, there were over 15 Million people that streamed to a peak viewership of 0-5 people. The top 1% of twitch starts at under 25 viewers.
Funny thats exactly what I ve been saying to my viewers when they asked me for the past year haha. Can totally sign this! The unfortunate thing many streamers will hear this and change nothing or they will stick with excuses :(
I started streaming on twitch in August 2022, ended up making affiliate, then the very few viewers I had disappeared. Now I might get 1-2 a stream. Recently kinda gave up on twitch, which I am aware that I’m still pretty new, just got frustrating, so now I make a few TH-cam videos a week.
Love this great, honest, from the heart advice. I've never bothered with Twitch. More than happy on TH-cam. For me, it's more a hobby than anything else. Good stuff, Toast 👍 Good man.
This video is further proof of another one of the reasons Toast is my favorite online personalities. I found Toast at the end of my freshman year of college when I started playing Hearthstone and was learning how to play. His videos were funny, entertaining, and very educational. From the perspective of a fan, it's easy to make generalizations about someone without knowing the truth, but I truly believe Toast was making these videos because of the content itself and not so much about monetary gain. What I mean by this is that he saw a space devoid of the specific content he was interested in watching and decided to make it himself, for himself. If it got views, great, but his intentions were genuine from the start. Thank you Toast for being a genuine online personality. I'm but a simple fan who has loved watching your work over the last five years and seeing how far you've come and will go. It would be amazing to meet you in person someday. But time is running out. Aside from being a fan, I am also a Jesus lover that knows my time on earth is running out. Believe and be saved, or don't. The only content that will live in eternity is that which comes from above (namely the Word and Christ Himself). Colossians 3:2
Yup, toast giving good advice. Unfortunately, it will go over peoples heads even after hearing this. People out here really think "if I grind hard enough on twitch I'll grow". In reality and data, it shows doing that is really bad. Twitch discovery is so bad even if you focus on consistency hours, stream quality, and personality your growth is still minimal. Its not necessarily you, its the literal code of twitch algorithm. But yet we still have hot headed people that think they can beat literal code. Its a losing battle. Make that make sense.
I would say one exception to this is GTA RP. Because it has so many streamers with large audiences and you can end up interacting with anyone on the server if you're really entertaining viewers will spot you and actively seek out your stream giving you a huge jump start. Although that comes with its own issues - it's incredibly hard to move from being RP streamer to streaming anything else and not lose your audience
that is another advice toast and other streamers give, focus on a big comunity that you like or at least you are interested in and make content for it, if you work hard enough you can pull a fraction of that comunity to be "yours" like toast did, he liked harthstone so he chose that and when he started streaming he already had 100 people he pulled for him, you will notice that every "boom" came from a bigger comunity every time partially by luck that it was trending but also toast knowing "i like this and also it is bigger than my current niche, it is a win/win" now he has people from hearthstone, tft and the overall streaming sphere with amongus+otv and friends, at its core can even be called a "leeching" tactic but in reality not anyone can do it, it doesnt matter how many people you pull from a comunity if your content can't grab and retain those viewers, toast could because he is smart and entertaining, that is why sykkuno had so much retention after amongus, if you have carisma or samething that sets you appart you will succed given that enough people look where you are, to get big yo need to be where people is looking and be brighter than the other millions of streamers in some way, once the people like YOUR content you can even leave the comunity like toast and do what you want and still have your audience, it sounds simple but it takes YEARS and not everybody has the means, patience and passion to do it, that is why only a 1% succeds, it is hard
well i saw this 4 months later, and thank you, i have been streaming for almost a year i get my ups and downs, mostly downs average 1-2 viewers and get excited when i get that random burst of 3-4 but great advise i'll try youtube and or FB. I was on the fence, and this helped thanks.
Thanks for the solid advice Toast, my husband has been trying to grow his brand and as a supporting person in his life, I've been trying to get more viewers coming into his stream from other platforms. People always say tiktok is a great platform to help grow viewership but all we've posted are twitch clips on there. I feel like it hasn't been helping, I would love to see you do a video like this about optimizing tiktok or other platforms to help with this. Thanks again for the content !
Great advice. The only twitch streamers that I have seen have instant or not even instant but quick success often already had followings on other platforms. Like I’ve seen a lot of djs stream on twitch and do well immediately but they already had a fan base to begin with
Loving this content! Started content creation over a year ago and tried to move streaming to Twitch and noticed a drop in viewers and couldn’t understand why. Definitely walking away with some important info from this, thank you!
I'm still trying to decide if I want to stream on youtube or twitch. I see a lot of people making the switch from twitch to youtube but twitch seems to have the better system because they're a solely streaming platform
streaming acts less like a service and more like a product the marketing seems to be the most important thing in streaming the quality just reassures they keep purchasing or in this case “watching” the streams my interpretation
This is great advice, because he's telling y'all to actually do something of value first. You don't deserve the attention until you put some value out into the world. Contribute, and build an online presence, and be a real person people can relate to while you are at it.
I always scroll from low viewers to high to connect with more small streamers and find kind people to raid out to. Discoverability on Twitch is very poor so I always try to find new people I vibe with with lower viewers that are more attentive to their chat and more grateful to new chatters. Utilising social media to market my channel was the best way for me to grow since Option 1 is impossible and I’m best known by my community for how BAD I am at video games 😂 Still have a long way to go for sure, but I’m enjoying the journey regardless
ANYONE who actually studies and takes streaming seriously should have already known that very simple piece of advice. Its not new, or mind blowing, its just common sense and knowing the market that caters to most discoverability.
THANK YOU TOAST!! 🥺 You really nailed this vid! I recently started streaming on twitch for the fun since I enjoyed playing games and wanted to share that with others. HOWEVER, you are right. The viewer count on Twitch sucks. It’s hard for anyone to come across my stream. I will take your advice! Thank you for sharing your wisdom 👌🏻
Oh Kolento... I remember the times when ppl called him a god player. Now I hardly remembered about his existence. There are very few Hearthstone streamers left from those days. I can't remember anyone other than Silvername.
Dude I've been so happy the last few days I'm not a twitch streamer my only platform for any social media is youtube. But I've been on the grind for the past two years building up my channel and improving the content I release. I've finally started getting comfortable enough to stream and have been so ecstatic that people have actually been dropping by. Its like the first time I can directly interact with my community real time. I've finally started getting comfortable enough to stream and have been so happy a few people join as thats a hundred times better than sitting in an empty lobby as I'm trying my hardest to be entertaining. I don't care about being famous or about money its just so nice seeing all the people supporting me. Truly without the nice comments and help from my friends and editors I couldn't have continued my channel. Starting a community has been my dream since I was a kid and I can now see it happening.
I’ve been trying to focus on Twitch because it’s convenient and easy, after months of test streams and research, he’s 100% right. Going to be focusing on building my community here on TH-cam until I can build a following. Not the advice we want to hear, but what we needed to hear 👏
Best tip hands down! My twitch channel has grown at an exceptional rate(for small time starting out)after only 2 months streaming. The ONLY reason that happened is because I had already gained an audience through tiktok. BECAUSE of that audience I was able to hit affiliate in a month of streaming. Which if you take into account the thousands of ppl streaming to 0-3 viewers is huge that I'm already avg 10. Even just having that 10 increases visibility on Twitch but my main discoverability will continue to be tiktok. It's also important that he talked about the time it takes to build those audiences. A year posting tiktoks and finally finding that "click bait" to get ppl engaged is how I started streaming even as a(currently) direct from console streamer. Now I have subs so I can take that revenue and put it back into streaming to increase my quality while my tiktok and personality carry the stream 🤣
Been watching Toast's among us vids all this Sunday (its night time for me rn, his recent upload triggered the nostalgia!) and paused the latest video to come watch this first
Man spitting fax...and you have to grind hard at the very beginning, because it's harder when nobody is clapping for you. So clap for yourself, don't give up and persist till you make it. :)
I do have to note that I've been on Twitch for less than a year and have 65 followers and get a good amount of viewers for how early I am. People discover me through the pages and also I have a pretty big community especially with other streamers.
I found you later in your career, but I have always loved your content. Thanks for being open and transparent about your thoughts and opinions of this all. These are honestly massive tips for people just starting out.
Thanks for the advice!! Very well said and straight to the point. I’m focusing on TikTok right now and networking and hoping to get back to streaming once I rebuild!
toast, i got to know you during your among us period. and i am still a bit sad i will not see any new *X AMOUNT IQ PLAY TITLE* anymore in my sub box, but i still support you with whatever content you provide. hope to see a lot more videos soon
Toast, I said it before, and I'll say it again: you are one of my greatest role models. You are a person whose advice always resonated with me. Keep it up, ly
Appreciate the insight, Toast. I've just started off and I'm having a lot of fun building up my TH-cam and socials alongside my massive 2 weeks of streaming so far. Stay cool man!
Actual solid advice. It takes a lot of discipline when you start on Twitch and it develops into something more. I grew and I want to grow more and just now developing the discipline to producing content on other platforms. Take advantage of hashtags, keywords, know when your audience is on their phone looking for short form content. Get addicted to providing quality content to your viewers.
As a maths college student Toast is really an inspiration for me cuz using maths to then grow a community and start making content is awesome. Idk if I'd ever stream or if I'd ever take the steps he mentioned to become a streamer but it's nice to see there are creative ways outside of the main mathematics fields or maths focused content to use maths to make content. Idk if any of that makes sense. All in all, Toast is awesome.
its actually quite awesome to see someone who doesnt owe anyone anything, give such advice without "Go to my patreon to get info" or some sort of pay wall. not that i look down on it, but the fact he just said "Yo, lemme help some people out" is pretty awesome
Even though you’re streaming on twitch, I’m glad you’re still posting on TH-cam. I share these kind of videos with my son because he wants to be a streamer.
Yeah, option #2 is pretty much the plan I'm going with. Start with some TH-cam content(Let's plays for now) and then transition into a little more variety and when the audience is big enough or there's some demand for it, then transition into streaming. Another thing for you guys trying to do this and probably doesn't need to be said, but this isn't gonna happen overnight. There's effort that needs to be made over the course of months to years. Of course... the other advice is probably the one people don't wanna hear.. If you aren't growing whatsoever and you've been at it for a while, then maybe content creation or streaming isn't meant for you. And that hurts my heart to even type, but that could very well be something people need to consider.
Toast giving free advise that makes a lot of sense. What a generous king
advice*
@@nathanielthomas7642 nice help .,.
@@nathanielthomas7642 what a generous peasant.
@@shashankgm2533 someone had to do it
@@nathanielthomas7642 lol, I actually found it funny, I would have added king to but I think there can only be one king in this comment section, but you are definitely funny man.
I honestly like watching the people that have less than 100 viewers in their streams because they are more likely to read your comments than a huge youtuber streaming
they interact more often, i stream to just to 2-4 but its fun. 👌🏻
Twitch tv Dopeboypeaty1
I was over the moon when I hit 7 viewers at one time yesterday! 😂
People between 20-100 viewers are like the top 20% of Twitch, tbf
5:19 why the litteral frick is valorant on the fortnite page (it's the reyna)
Toast and Lud really give people the straight dope on the realities of being a streamer and how to get started. Wouldnt be suprised to see a collab in that direction. "Toast's and Ludwig's streamer camp" or something to that effect. Would surely help a great deal of people and make the field of available content more diverse!
@@dericofdorking can u send me a link to it?
1. make good content
2. get people to look at it
3. repeat
99% of people just want the benefits that comes with being a big streamer - money, not having to get a job, work from home, work on your own schedule etc.
5% of people like to actually stream and create content and be on camera for 8 hours every day.
If you are not in the 5% you will never get the benefits that 99% wants
@@andrewferguson6901 Yeah this “good content” just needs to be decent/work, not the best of the best, but hey that’s a plus. And most important is advertising.
@@sten260 interesting reply thanks for sharing. Honestly
If I had kept grinding on twitch with long streams everyday like I did the past 3 years, then I would not be nearly as successful on twitch like I am now. The majority of my following has come from both my Tiktok and TH-cam videos and honestly, ever since I started my youtube channel, I have come to realize that I enjoy making videos so much more than actually streaming to a live audience.
Small world. Just watched your vtuber mistakes video. Good stuff
@@KOFFL3 thank you!!!
but you have to get 15 subs
to stream
@@Thexfortintewdym?
I love how confident toast talks.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that I get bullied because my classmates think my videos are the worst. Please don't agree, dear cha
🥺dear cha❤️
@@AxxLAfriku I got bullied as well for being the quiet one. But if you're getting bullied because of your videos then you probably deserved it since you've done nothing but doing the same shit over and over spamming here spamming there. What I really don't like about people is intentionally receiving "hate" for themselves.
@@AxxLAfriku I don't think your videos are the reason...
@@guiii0696 i agree with you there i took a look at it. I couldn't watch it any more
I've watched/read a bunch of these "tutorials" on how to be a streamer/content creator and Toast is right. It really just boils down to "Why should someone watch youu or your stream?" EIther be reallyyy good at a game or be reeallyy passionate about something that you end up creating content that you want to share with people. Anything other than that and you would just be doing it as a hobby with no real goal in the future. I unfortunately have none of those qualities lmao
Toast: I want to come back to Twitch for the competitive aspect.
Competition: 404 not found
Toast: Fine, I'll do it my self.
Restart your browser and you’ll see XQC
I had 12 viewers for the first time after a small raid and it felt so awesome.
Be a cool person and interactive because you can engage with other streamers and build connections.
I'm still no affiliate but interacting with a lot of chatters was definitely a wholesome experience.
@frosteeosThats my usual unless im playing league where i can plug myself. I did have a raid of like 36 which was cool and a record. Talk to other smaller streamers and try to network
Toast should name himself The Twitch Insider
Retweet
Retweet
Twitch insider.. i hardly know her 😏
@@cyberbabyyyy pls lmao
@@cyberbabyyyy I love this
As a day one Hearthstone player, I witnessed the gradual rise of Toast firsthand. I remember after not playing the game for a couple of years I started seeing his name outside of the HS community and it made me so happy. Great advice from someone who truly knows what it takes and has done it.
Toast: This is how you become a big streamer
Chat: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
He did explain it on his birthday day
@@ChangerYK Who asked tho
@@thaa1552 this is a public comment section, no one needs to ask anyone can comment.
I had no clue who Toast or Ludwig was until today. Shout to them for really helping others and not gatekeeping and even if you don't wanna be a streamer they still give a lot of good advice and its GOOD content.
Can confirm only facts in this video🙏
here have a like
Not facts really. The prices he listed were way too high for what most people actually buy to get started. Nobody is spending 3k on a streaming pc just for streaming, decent mics dont cost $100 minimum you can get decent mics for $35, a lot of people dont event have web cams when they start let alone spending $100 on a new one, they would just an old one or a cheap one. He never covered the 3rd option, finding a niche category with low streamer counts to grow a dedicated following for that niche category. A good example is classic COD zombies, not many people stream it, but a decent amount of new people watch it for nostalgia. I know several streamers including myself who got a fast boost from this, I went from never having streamed to affiliate in under 2 weeks which is pretty damn good. I spent maybe $30 total for my stream after 3 months for things like spotify, bttv premium etc.
@@sncaterd it's like you didn't watch the video at all. He literally said not to prioritize these equipments but rather start off on making content and get some attention before streaming.
@@sncaterd watch the vid man cmon.
@@fathertime7864 He needs to show off to famous people as his ego booster.
Let him be, he needs that validation.
ive been trying to be a big streamer for 8 years now. only at 8.7k on twitch. thats averaging 1,000 followers a year. which is actually good, but im here because i want to take it to the next level. thanks for the tips
whats crazy is that he did this basically in one take. if i were to try to do something like this, i'd be rambling off on something completely useless
They call him One Take Toast (OTT)
he has talked about this many times before... here and there some bits and pieces, even the whole thing he has said several times. :)
lmao? I could go on talking about why I like a certain food when the topic is about global warming
@@twintrouble8421 who asked
Thank you so much for taking the time to help us other streamers get going on this insane journey we all love so much!
Toast: *gets signed by Twitch*
Toast: "If you wanna be a streamer, don't use Twitch."
Less competition. BIG BRAIN PLAY.
Kidding aside, this was actually a great advice.
Things i learned
1. be good at a game
2. Donations and drama and reactions 👤
3. Twitch no good for beginners
4. Tiktok good for starters
5. Face reveals
fact that Toast acknowledged that every streamer on Twitch are competitors yet still went ahead with sharing this heartfelt advice shows how much genuine of a person he is
So, rather than listening to the main point he is trying to make, "Get big on other platforms with better discoverability," I made a list of what he actually did.
1. Post to reddit for one year about something he was passionate about.
2. Make a 14 second viral clip of a unique Easter egg he personally in the game he played.
3. He went live to 100 people for his debut. (Literally 100x more than the average person)
4. Make sure he was anonymous this entire time and then face reveal to create insane hype and explode in popularity.
5. Be at the top of the Twitch page shortly after debut.
My key takeaways:
1. Be passionate and good at the game/thing you want to stream.
2. Take notice of what people are already enjoying in regards to your chosen subject.
3. Make content with maximum effort and post it to a platform with good discoverability.
4. See if people like it, and adjust accordingly.
Appreciate this so much!! The honesty, the confidence, and the intent to help talented people - thanks for being so kind Toast!! Wishing you the best of luck, fun, and joy onwards on twitch!!
This just confirmed my theory that youtube is better. I'm a noob streamer on twitch and one random day i decided to link my twitch to yt and started exporting my streams and clips as youtube shorts and damn, i have much more views. My twitch clips get 1-3 views while yt shorts get 500+ views. Now I am going to start properly streaming on youtube or make youtube videos. Wish me luck yall
Hey another piece of advice for everyone! Remember that your Twitch vods are basically free content for TH-cam. They may not perform well but it will drive people's attention to your Twitch channel.
It's definitely a lot easier to blow up on youtube than twitch. TH-cam actually bothers to recommend small channels, it's not rare at all that I get recommended videos with literal 0 views.
Is it easy to take a twitch VOD and upload it to TH-cam?
This is the best advice I've seen in a while! I wanted to stream on twitch but I opted to start on a youtube channel first to build a community to avoid the 0 viewer reality if I went with streaming first.
When Toast uploads 3 days in a row again😩🙏🙏🙏
It's like we're back in the good ol' days again
I loved following you through your career! Things have changed so much since you were wearing the toast mask and the content is still great!
This is great advice! I've always wanted to become a content creator but I have no idea where to start and if it'll kick off. Over-thinking every detail xD I appreciate Toast being honest and giving out helpful tips. Good luck to the streamers who are doing their best rn! Don't give up
Best Of Luck, buddy!!!
@@amlanpadhi765 omg thank you so much :D this made my day lol
@@sleepysagee best of luck !
bro, no videos
@@schrodingershat3240 your username made my day. Thanks for tHAT :D.
also, Good luck Kaylee
all i'm wanting from twitch atm is like 10 consistent chatters and 20 viewers. Like i dont wanna be huge. I made the mistake of starting on twitch, this vid helped alot
The Man, The Myth, The Legend! Back to being consistent!
you're gonna jinx it man!
Let’s go
Finally someone with actual GOOD advise, not just "advise" copied and rephrased from elsewhere. That's why you'll always be a legend, Toast!
Haven't seen you for 6 years since I was last playing HS. I am really happy to see you are still relevant and playing a bunch of stuff.
toast is such a good dude. this man takes care of the little guys, for sure.
Thanks for the advice Toast, i wanna share what im going threw right now with building up an audience on TH-cam/Twitch.
So i started with youtube around 4 years ago and were hopping on the Apex Legends.exe meme video train. I made a couple of videos that were pretty bad at first and almost gained no views and subs.
But as i become better with editing and found my own editing style, i got some videos that relativly blew up. Some gaining over 10k views and some almost 50k which was really much considering i had only like 200 subs at this point. I just reached 1k subs last week and im really proud of that achievment, the most sad part is that i completly had to drop that Apex.exe videos because at some point like 1-2years ago the servers got so bad that i wasn't able to play at all, so the more time went by the less i played apex and i lost all fun and interest in playing it due to bad game performance, i only dropped a video once in a while because i felt i had to keep up to not dissapoint my community.
Kinda at the same time back then i found a new game called Super Buckyball Tournament which i absolutly fell in love with. And since this is a really new game there were almost no content creators at all, when i joined. So i thought: "hey my plan is too build an audience completly around this game, try to become one of the best players in the game (I''m TOP 5 rn). The game is still in beta and will release probably early next year, but i took the time the last 2 years and made as much content as possible. My big hopes are now that when the game releases, it will have a good marketing campaing and gets advertised enough, so the game actually blows up and gets noticed by more people. So if it goes big i already have the big + of being a really really good player, so people might just wanna watch me for that, another + is making good content like guides, so people will likely to watch some of my guides to get better at the game, then i also do memes and funny moments videos.
So im basically covering more type of formats all based around the game, so if the game really goes big, i have everything ready and prepared to go crazy on launch and fire out content left and right.
In the time the game is not available (because there are only playtests every few months) i still stream other games and im really happy that i see people that coming from the buckyball community come watch me because of my personality and not only because of me playing the game in the first place.
What im trying to basically say with this big text is: I think that trying to get big in a game that is very popular is a really big challange. If there is a game that you really enjoy that might not be a mainstream game like valorant,csgo or fortnite, it might be also worth trying to build an audience around a smaller game. it might be a double edged sword, surely you will be recognized more likely due to the lower competition but the people that look up that smaller game just might be not that high aswell. But maybe this might aswell be a good opportunity to build an audience, if you have a smaller game that you really like.
Anyway great video
The game looks fun but also kind of a rocket league knock off you might get lucky and it blows up
If there's dark backgroud than it would be hard or impossible to read chat messages in overlay. But then again, services that offers chat overlay doesn't have outline options for test.
CONGRATS ON 3K MAN, dang i remember you had like 60 subs like trying to hit 1k at the end of the month Lol
Love Toast n his editor.. they do a great job every video.. his editor is so underrated!
5 months late I just want to say that this is probably the realist "how to become famous" vids I have witnessed. Tho I don't see myself shooting for at least partner on twitch, I would like to have a better daily average viewer count and it doesn't help that I am a veriety/speedrunner channel. I speedrun Mega Man games mostly and sometimes COD Zombie maps when I know how to, and then I turn around to become decent CODBOCW player. Even as far as working on a YT series for a game I just started playing a month ago. Thank you so much for the tip(s) and the honesty I can genuinly hear in your voice. Not only you have my like, you also have my sub. that sub button is no longer red. keep grinding, DT
This guy's confidence is sublime!! Like i am so proud of him!!
14:41 Toast wiping those tears of joy
"Do not stream on Twitch".
Best advice ever:,-)
Disguised Toast, This made me laugh so much! Thanks for sharing!
If you need data for a video like this again, sullygnome is your place to go. In the last 365 days, there were over 15 Million people that streamed to a peak viewership of 0-5 people. The top 1% of twitch starts at under 25 viewers.
Toats legit called himself the Michael Jordan of streaming haha. I love this guy, never change.
Funny thats exactly what I ve been saying to my viewers when they asked me for the past year haha. Can totally sign this! The unfortunate thing many streamers will hear this and change nothing or they will stick with excuses :(
Can't believe I just found a comment from the Potato of Tanglewood itself 🥔
It’s so sad that there are just thousands of streamers who never even get a single view.
I started streaming on twitch in August 2022, ended up making affiliate, then the very few viewers I had disappeared. Now I might get 1-2 a stream. Recently kinda gave up on twitch, which I am aware that I’m still pretty new, just got frustrating, so now I make a few TH-cam videos a week.
Love this great, honest, from the heart advice. I've never bothered with Twitch. More than happy on TH-cam. For me, it's more a hobby than anything else. Good stuff, Toast 👍 Good man.
I will never forget your Renounce Warlock. Best thing ever in Hearthstone
This video is further proof of another one of the reasons Toast is my favorite online personalities.
I found Toast at the end of my freshman year of college when I started playing Hearthstone and was learning how to play. His videos were funny, entertaining, and very educational. From the perspective of a fan, it's easy to make generalizations about someone without knowing the truth, but I truly believe Toast was making these videos because of the content itself and not so much about monetary gain. What I mean by this is that he saw a space devoid of the specific content he was interested in watching and decided to make it himself, for himself. If it got views, great, but his intentions were genuine from the start.
Thank you Toast for being a genuine online personality. I'm but a simple fan who has loved watching your work over the last five years and seeing how far you've come and will go. It would be amazing to meet you in person someday. But time is running out. Aside from being a fan, I am also a Jesus lover that knows my time on earth is running out. Believe and be saved, or don't. The only content that will live in eternity is that which comes from above (namely the Word and Christ Himself). Colossians 3:2
. w etc- chrst is king. zhr.kick^
Yup, toast giving good advice. Unfortunately, it will go over peoples heads even after hearing this. People out here really think "if I grind hard enough on twitch I'll grow". In reality and data, it shows doing that is really bad. Twitch discovery is so bad even if you focus on consistency hours, stream quality, and personality your growth is still minimal. Its not necessarily you, its the literal code of twitch algorithm. But yet we still have hot headed people that think they can beat literal code. Its a losing battle. Make that make sense.
I would say one exception to this is GTA RP. Because it has so many streamers with large audiences and you can end up interacting with anyone on the server if you're really entertaining viewers will spot you and actively seek out your stream giving you a huge jump start. Although that comes with its own issues - it's incredibly hard to move from being RP streamer to streaming anything else and not lose your audience
that is another advice toast and other streamers give, focus on a big comunity that you like or at least you are interested in and make content for it, if you work hard enough you can pull a fraction of that comunity to be "yours" like toast did, he liked harthstone so he chose that and when he started streaming he already had 100 people he pulled for him, you will notice that every "boom" came from a bigger comunity every time partially by luck that it was trending but also toast knowing "i like this and also it is bigger than my current niche, it is a win/win" now he has people from hearthstone, tft and the overall streaming sphere with amongus+otv and friends, at its core can even be called a "leeching" tactic but in reality not anyone can do it, it doesnt matter how many people you pull from a comunity if your content can't grab and retain those viewers, toast could because he is smart and entertaining, that is why sykkuno had so much retention after amongus, if you have carisma or samething that sets you appart you will succed given that enough people look where you are, to get big yo need to be where people is looking and be brighter than the other millions of streamers in some way, once the people like YOUR content you can even leave the comunity like toast and do what you want and still have your audience, it sounds simple but it takes YEARS and not everybody has the means, patience and passion to do it, that is why only a 1% succeds, it is hard
well i saw this 4 months later, and thank you, i have been streaming for almost a year i get my ups and downs, mostly downs average 1-2 viewers and get excited when i get that random burst of 3-4 but great advise i'll try youtube and or FB. I was on the fence, and this helped thanks.
4:20 anyone saw him looking back IRL while driving in reverse gear
Thanks for the solid advice Toast, my husband has been trying to grow his brand and as a supporting person in his life, I've been trying to get more viewers coming into his stream from other platforms. People always say tiktok is a great platform to help grow viewership but all we've posted are twitch clips on there. I feel like it hasn't been helping, I would love to see you do a video like this about optimizing tiktok or other platforms to help with this. Thanks again for the content !
Disguised Toast is such a great guy
Great advice. The only twitch streamers that I have seen have instant or not even instant but quick success often already had followings on other platforms. Like I’ve seen a lot of djs stream on twitch and do well immediately but they already had a fan base to begin with
Loving this content! Started content creation over a year ago and tried to move streaming to Twitch and noticed a drop in viewers and couldn’t understand why. Definitely walking away with some important info from this, thank you!
I'm still trying to decide if I want to stream on youtube or twitch. I see a lot of people making the switch from twitch to youtube but twitch seems to have the better system because they're a solely streaming platform
streaming acts less like a service and more like a product
the marketing seems to be the most important thing in streaming
the quality just reassures they keep purchasing or in this case “watching” the streams
my interpretation
Would have never thought of option #2 at ALL. Thanks for the information Toast!
This is great advice, because he's telling y'all to actually do something of value first. You don't deserve the attention until you put some value out into the world. Contribute, and build an online presence, and be a real person people can relate to while you are at it.
I always scroll from low viewers to high to connect with more small streamers and find kind people to raid out to. Discoverability on Twitch is very poor so I always try to find new people I vibe with with lower viewers that are more attentive to their chat and more grateful to new chatters.
Utilising social media to market my channel was the best way for me to grow since Option 1 is impossible and I’m best known by my community for how BAD I am at video games 😂
Still have a long way to go for sure, but I’m enjoying the journey regardless
i love how open he is to his audience
14:34 happy birthday Damis_20’s father !!
Finally the content we've been waiting for😫
ANYONE who actually studies and takes streaming seriously should have already known that very simple piece of advice. Its not new, or mind blowing, its just common sense and knowing the market that caters to most discoverability.
THANK YOU TOAST!! 🥺 You really nailed this vid! I recently started streaming on twitch for the fun since I enjoyed playing games and wanted to share that with others. HOWEVER, you are right. The viewer count on Twitch sucks. It’s hard for anyone to come across my stream. I will take your advice! Thank you for sharing your wisdom 👌🏻
0:57 EXACTLY. THANK YOU!
Oh Kolento... I remember the times when ppl called him a god player. Now I hardly remembered about his existence. There are very few Hearthstone streamers left from those days. I can't remember anyone other than Silvername.
Thijs is the only one i still watch
Amaz and Trump still churning out content, but yea they are kinda stuck to a routine and won't try anything new
Watched this while streaming to one viewer, most relatable content ever.
Never expected a Subroza x Toast crossover Pog
Dude I've been so happy the last few days I'm not a twitch streamer my only platform for any social media is youtube. But I've been on the grind for the past two years building up my channel and improving the content I release. I've finally started getting comfortable enough to stream and have been so ecstatic that people have actually been dropping by. Its like the first time I can directly interact with my community real time. I've finally started getting comfortable enough to stream and have been so happy a few people join as thats a hundred times better than sitting in an empty lobby as I'm trying my hardest to be entertaining.
I don't care about being famous or about money its just so nice seeing all the people supporting me. Truly without the nice comments and help from my friends and editors I couldn't have continued my channel. Starting a community has been my dream since I was a kid and I can now see it happening.
The best way to be a big streamer is to be amusing and to pay someone to edit your streams down into TH-cam content. It takes money to make money
I mean you can propably start of by editing clips for tiktok (daily/multiple times a day) and doing some yt content yourself
@arletteschu I think he means like a whole youtube video cause me personally it takes hours!!!!! So yea I feel the tiktok edits u can do urself
I’ve been trying to focus on Twitch because it’s convenient and easy, after months of test streams and research, he’s 100% right. Going to be focusing on building my community here on TH-cam until I can build a following. Not the advice we want to hear, but what we needed to hear 👏
Best tip hands down! My twitch channel has grown at an exceptional rate(for small time starting out)after only 2 months streaming. The ONLY reason that happened is because I had already gained an audience through tiktok. BECAUSE of that audience I was able to hit affiliate in a month of streaming. Which if you take into account the thousands of ppl streaming to 0-3 viewers is huge that I'm already avg 10. Even just having that 10 increases visibility on Twitch but my main discoverability will continue to be tiktok. It's also important that he talked about the time it takes to build those audiences. A year posting tiktoks and finally finding that "click bait" to get ppl engaged is how I started streaming even as a(currently) direct from console streamer. Now I have subs so I can take that revenue and put it back into streaming to increase my quality while my tiktok and personality carry the stream 🤣
Been watching Toast's among us vids all this Sunday (its night time for me rn, his recent upload triggered the nostalgia!) and paused the latest video to come watch this first
Man spitting fax...and you have to grind hard at the very beginning, because it's harder when nobody is clapping for you. So clap for yourself, don't give up and persist till you make it. :)
You know you are good when you are able to give awsome advice to your possibly future competitors without worring about it, Hail king Toast :D
I do have to note that I've been on Twitch for less than a year and have 65 followers and get a good amount of viewers for how early I am. People discover me through the pages and also I have a pretty big community especially with other streamers.
I found you later in your career, but I have always loved your content. Thanks for being open and transparent about your thoughts and opinions of this all. These are honestly massive tips for people just starting out.
Thanks for the advice!! Very well said and straight to the point. I’m focusing on TikTok right now and networking and hoping to get back to streaming once I rebuild!
toast, i got to know you during your among us period. and i am still a bit sad i will not see any new *X AMOUNT IQ PLAY TITLE* anymore in my sub box, but i still support you with whatever content you provide. hope to see a lot more videos soon
Toast, I said it before, and I'll say it again: you are one of my greatest role models. You are a person whose advice always resonated with me. Keep it up, ly
Appreciate the insight, Toast. I've just started off and I'm having a lot of fun building up my TH-cam and socials alongside my massive 2 weeks of streaming so far. Stay cool man!
Actual solid advice. It takes a lot of discipline when you start on Twitch and it develops into something more. I grew and I want to grow more and just now developing the discipline to producing content on other platforms. Take advantage of hashtags, keywords, know when your audience is on their phone looking for short form content. Get addicted to providing quality content to your viewers.
Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos🎈
As a maths college student Toast is really an inspiration for me cuz using maths to then grow a community and start making content is awesome. Idk if I'd ever stream or if I'd ever take the steps he mentioned to become a streamer but it's nice to see there are creative ways outside of the main mathematics fields or maths focused content to use maths to make content. Idk if any of that makes sense. All in all, Toast is awesome.
TOAST IS BACK! IT’S AN EARLY CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
O shit I’m first. I thought this was a recommended notif
Let’s see how this goes, I’m now starting
its actually quite awesome to see someone who doesnt owe anyone anything, give such advice without "Go to my patreon to get info" or some sort of pay wall. not that i look down on it, but the fact he just said "Yo, lemme help some people out" is pretty awesome
Even though you’re streaming on twitch, I’m glad you’re still posting on TH-cam. I share these kind of videos with my son because he wants to be a streamer.
You can make a nice streaming setup for under $1k. Shit I honestly might even take up the challenge of making a streaming setup for under $300
thank you so much for this words Toast!
I think your advice’s are totally right and I personally will use them in the future!! much love king 👑
when you said “they get their little sippy juice” 😂😂
Option #3: Support my leaching attempt on Toast just spitting facts for 15 mins by liking this comment
Man. This was an amazing vid. Making me rethink so much.
Thanks toast, this was really insightful
So the main advice is: Don't just work hard, but also work smart.
Holy shit, it sounds like it realy can work
there is a german minecraft streamer named bastighg he just streamed for years every day thats how he got famous.
Yeah, option #2 is pretty much the plan I'm going with.
Start with some TH-cam content(Let's plays for now) and then transition into a little more variety and when the audience is big enough or there's some demand for it, then transition into streaming.
Another thing for you guys trying to do this and probably doesn't need to be said, but this isn't gonna happen overnight. There's effort that needs to be made over the course of months to years.
Of course... the other advice is probably the one people don't wanna hear.. If you aren't growing whatsoever and you've been at it for a while, then maybe content creation or streaming isn't meant for you. And that hurts my heart to even type, but that could very well be something people need to consider.
It does make sense because when u are good at something, people will find u and watch u make sense