My nephew absorbed his twin. At age four he had to have surgery to have the twin removed. Hair, a few baby teeth still in a part of a gum line, and one tiny leg. He had always complained his tummy hurts and the doctors finally found it. It does happen.
They needed to sedate him to clean the would and stitch it up. And every time he was awake, he tried to dig into his own abdomen. It's not insane to keep someone like that drugged up.
would've seen it coming if they had just LISTENED TO THE PATIENT in the first place. would it have been so hard to at least do an x-ray or CT scan before going "WELP HE'S CRAZY, DRUG HIM UP FELLAS"?
What do you mean by human nature, we are all animals human is just what we define ourselves as, it's like a status a false system designed to give us a false glorified purpose which is non existent.
As a behavioral health professional Charles is absolutely right. Sometimes you have to see "threats" as opportunities both for gaining better knowledge on your patient and also for you to work with them through the problem if possible. The psychology field can be draining because theres only so much you can really do before its up to the patient to put in work.
It's frustrating they didn't just give him an X ray to put it to rest, neither doctor even considered the possibility that there Actually was something inside of him.
@@DefileOdds This is something that often happens especially if a person was diagnosed with a disorder that causes hallucinations and/or delusions previously. Doctors will often ignore very real health issues because they assume its just a symptom of their disorder. They really should just do these check ups anyways even if they dont think its true. It saves both the patient and the doctor time and money in the long run if there IS something wrong.
I use to go to St. Elizabeth and tell them something was in my head and that I could feel it especially when laying on the back of my head. After so many visit a week and them finding nothing I was deemed paranoid/ off my rocker. That's when I learned the hospital can actually deny seeing you if you don't give off visual signs of sickness/ emergency. I then start going to Baptist and told them the same thing. Baptist examine my head visually and said, oh you have infected hair follicles. These many years later I still have them,but just having a name to the problem/ pain and light bleeding when shampooing my hair or scratching my scalp put me at ease.
Infuriating that they don't for a SECOND consider the possibility that there Actually IS something inside him, last episode i saw them pull a 25 foot tape worm from a womans stomach so why is this hard to believe!?!?
Because, as pointed out, his behavior shows a lot of similarities to schizophrenia or being strung out. They wanted to try to get him into a state where they felt he was mentally sound enough to work with, before just presuming that he in fact had something inside him. He did not appear to be rational.
@@Mokiefraggle The problem with that assumption is when really scary things happen to people, they actually tend to present the same as psych patients who only *believe* something is happening to them. Those psych patients are actually having a normal reaction to an extreme situation that almost anyone would have, the only abnormal part is they're imagining the situation. Then you try to medicate the non-psych patients, and it does nothing because the problem is not imagined, maybe the drugs even interact with the problem and kills the patient if you're unlucky. If someone doesn't have a psych history, and they make a physical complaint, you really do need to listen to them- always presuming psych problems first is only done as standard in the medical practice of a few countries, mostly ones with bad drug & mental health problems, and it's a very poor adaptation to the situation. Heck, here in Italy my known schizophrenic cousin still gets physical exams first, even if they think he skipped his meds. They don't just dismiss every problem as psychosis, that would be mad. Anyways that said this whole medical drama seems very dumb, I don't think I'll watch it, or probably any drama lol
@@Mokiefraggle Wrong! They should have ruled out a physical cause before assuming he was having a psychotic break. If there was a physical cause, delays can be dangerous or deadly. Psychiatric conditions are rarely so time sensitive. Maybe they should have restrained him to keep him from additional self harm while those tests were being done, but they needed to be done first! There are so many weird conditions that can happen during pregnancy. Absorbed twin is just one of them. Being a chimera is another one, where fraternal twins begin, but one twin absorbs the DNA of the other and ends up with two sets of DNA. It is extremely rare, but it happens. Look it up.
@@BratCharlie08 Yes this show is SOOOO good! That's AWESOME btw! This show has ignited my love for medicine and has kept me inspired to become a pediatric nurse :)
I'd immediately demand a new doctor if they sedated me while i was trying to explain the issue, way too aggressive in their demeanor and distance from the patient.
Years ago I met a classmate from 'German high school' and we talked about how our lives have developed. We talked a lot and she told me she had been in panic due to possible cancer. Fortunately it had been an absorbed twin as well and 'her sibbling' had been removed.
Yes, a partially developed fetus can be absorbed by a normally developing fetus in the womb, a condition called fetus-in-fetu. This rare condition affects about 1 in 500,000 births. The absorbed twin can share some physical features with a normal fetus, but it has no chance of survival outside of the host twin and can threaten the host twin's life. The absorbed twin's organs have a working blood supply from the host, but it lacks a functional brain, heart, lungs, gastrointestinal tract, and urinary tract. In some cases, the absorbed twin can be found as a mass of tissue or bone inside the abdomen of the surviving twin. For example, a baby girl born in Hong Kong had a growth on her left side that contained what appeared to be absorbed siblings. A teenager in India was also found to have a mass of bone, teeth, and hair in her abdomen that was the result of fetus-in-fetu.
Absolutely NO damn way, he wasn’t screaming in pain. He had his hand AND wrist inside his body and pulled out a damn Intestine. Does this man not feel pain!?!
You CANNOT give a patient ANY meds that they dont consent to! Period! That's grounds for a serious lawsuit! The second he said no, she should have left the room! Immediately! This is why you listen to patients before jumpjng to conclusions!
Haven't seen the full episode but it's possible the patient has chimerism, a condition also discussed in House MD, where a twin cell is absorbed in the womb.
It was alive but had no independent activity and was dependent on him for sustenance, hence being considered parasitic. Fetus in fetu, mentioned in the clip, is the specific condition. There's multiple hypotheses of how these tumour-like parasites arise, the clip specifically mentions the parasitic twin hypothesis (in which a twin is absorbed in the womb and becomes dependent upon the sibling's body to survive). Another hypothesis is that they're highly-developed teratomas, in which the body starts to grow tissues in places they're usually absent, but those are usually bizarre mish-mashes of tissues instead of anything that actually resembles a fetus.
I had a sack of various types of cells in my brain that, over 45 years, grew to be 2 inches x 2 1/2 inches x 3 inches, compressing my brain before it was discovered at the age of 45 yrs.. The cyst was between the skull and the brain. Once discovered, it was removed. There were most types of body cells within it, but they did not organize or move to their correct position to form a fetus. I never asked the surgeon about it being a reabsorbed twin, but with my background in science education (Ed.D.) and my brother being an M. D., we both assumed it was an absorbed twin. I named it The Alien so that I didn't have to think about the surgeon removing something from my brain. Yes, there are minor side effects, but after 23 years, my body has compensated for the compression to an extent. I still have a rather large hole in my brain.
I do not get why they did not even look into physiological causes first instead of just outright assume drug abuse…at least do some scans. A foreign object that large would have been obvious.
Not necessarily. It's entirely possible that it would have been hidden by organs, or wouldn't have shown on the typical sorts of scans (X-ray or ultrasound), because of the placement and the fact that it's clearly a soft tissue mass. Also, if they _had_ detected it, all that would've done was led to a biopsy and a distinct possibility of a "well, it's benign, no need to remove it" response that wouldn't stop the guy from just turning around and carving himself open again. Also, given that he was screaming about a _person living inside him,_ it reads like clear psychosis or drug withdrawal. He's not rational, he's insisting that a living thing is inside of him (not that he has a mass or other foreign object, but a person. Nobody is going to hear that, see what he did, and not feel that he's more likely a mental patient than someone who actually has an internal mass.
So he was totally right to do what he did because the doctors would not listen to him or even look with an X-Ray to humor him, if he hadnt operated on himself he would have been put on drugs and committed. Really cool good doctors here. Then they just shrug and say "Wowie look at that" when proven wrong.
This is a time in which a safety observer and restraints would be in order. Especially when the patient had already cut into himself. They should have cleared all items from the room that he could use to harm himself. Glad they got the twin out of him but they should have protected him as well.
Yeah I’m pretty shocked restraints weren’t the first thought considering they knew from the beginning that his wound was self-inflicted. I guess they were pretty confident that amount of sedative would work.
Some of them cause tardive dyskinesia which can be permanent. Happened to my brother who IS schizophrenic, he has permanent lock jaw like symptoms from the spasms. Eating, dental visits, etc. are difficult for him.
Fetus In Fetu is rare, but there have been cases of it happening. I actually heard of one case where a little girl was undergoing brain surgery for what was thought to be a tumor, but it actually turned out to be an absorbed twin.
I get it… the absorbed twin was still alive, living in his brother. It was moving and may have even been connected to his brain and central nervous system. That’s how he knew, both that it was happening and where.
No, it's not alive or moving. That was literally just a mass of tissue with no capacity for movement. Fetus-in-fetu is basically just a very elaborate tumor that science isn't even certain _is_ actually an absorbed fetal twin. It's usually implied to happen early enough in gestation that the bodies haven't truly developed outside of some basic cellular individualization, so there's no real way it would have any sort of muscle fibers or anything that could cause it to move. He was probably having some sort of mental break due to feeling it possibly pressing on something and causing discomfort, but it's not like there was an actual living, possibly aware entity inside of him.
Normal tissue in your body does move. Your brain just blocks it out. If he was able to feel the "mass", then there was probably some kind of recent change to it. Something different that his brain hadn't blocked yet. As for knowing the exact location, it is possible. Some people are more in tune with their internal structure than others. Some people can "feel" things better than average. Super nerves. There is a very painful test to figure that out. Personal experience. I can pinpoint the exact location my pain is coming from and what structure it is in. But, I have a grasp of anatomy.
I mean c'mon, rookie mistake letting a guy who sliced himself open lie there with a blanket obscuring his abdomen, saw that coming the moment that scene started
One thing I have learned from watching these clips is that not everything related to the particular case is shown. That you need to watch the whole episode to know what all happened.
He has a genetic condition called chimerisim that is caused by two twin eggs merging or reabsorb together when there is not enough room inside the womb for two eggs to stay separated and develop into fetuses. I feel sorry for these reabsorbed twins.
I think you’re incorrect I think a chimera is a person with two different colored eyes were two people have people together not an embryo left inside someone.
@@christineking2855 google says that’s where they’re born with an eye with multicolors not like one are green and one I blew or something like that unless I misread it. I wouldn’t be too quick not to draw the assumption that these people could be Nephilim.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Heterochromia is at its most extreme expression capable of making a person's eyes completely mismatched. Total heterochromia will do that. Most often, it results in patches of a different color within both eyes (I have a friend with partial heterochromia, giving him blotches of hazel in otherwise blue eyes). Chimerism is when two zygotes fuse in the womb, but due to having subtle differences beginning to develop genetically, the fusion is not perfect. This can lead to mismatched eyes of varying degrees, different hair textures on each side of the head, and a variety of other subtle mismatches that show that a person is actually two in one. The most noteworthy case is a woman who was believed to not be her son's biological mother, because he needed a kidney donor, and hers was shown not to be a genetic match. It was found that she had different genomes in different organs and other areas of her body, such that her ovaries and the eggs they carried were genetically different from the DNA in her kidneys, leading to an extended court case. This is a case wherein a fetus is spontaneously absorbed by another at a later point in development (or at least, this is what is believed to have happened, similar to a parasitic twin), and never fully developed. As such, it's just a slightly differentiated clump of tissues, not a proper fetus, that exists as a tumor-like growth inside the fully developed twin.
classic sindrome "to a hammer, everything looks like a nail" To a psychiatrist, every one looks crazy to a surgen, every case needs to open the patient up
alex: I CAN FEEL IT INSIDE ME me in my african accent era: IF U DONT WANT TO DIE NOW THEN YOU WILL PUT THOES FOOLISH DEMONIC HANDS AWAY me in my doctor era: oh my gosh are u ok, ok SIR WE HAVE A PROBLEM try to put ur hands away ok we will sort it out me irl: 👁 👄 👁
So no one initially looked at his stomach? No scan, no ultrasound, no nothing. I hate when shows skip something basic that should have been done initially just to drag on an episode.
The scary thing is that they didn't even scan to see if he was right i get human error is a thing but if someone say theres something inside them it shouldn't be impossible to look and do test before assuming he's a druggie or crazy
She should of been fired that’s why I hate a lot of these doctors now days instead of running test or listening to the patient they just feel on u n tell u to take this and if u have problems comeback. Missing the point which is if u do your job I won’t have to come back 🤦♂️
There was like this movie where a guy was like in all sorts of pain and all and then an alien monster popped out of his chest and all. So, yeh, this sort of things can happen.
Fetus in fetu isn’t the same as the chestburster scene in _Alien,_ but it’s easy to see why your mind could go down that particular rabbit hole after watching this!
because hes literally tore into himself saying theres something living inside of him. Its not realistic to do an ultrasound for that its much more realistic to consult a psychologist.
@@Lilithotw if someone says they feel something moving around inside of them, roll an ultrasound in the room and prove them wrong. Apparently it’s not that difficult since they ended up doing, an ultrasound.
it can happen but it is rare, it's called parasite twin, A parasitic twin is a type of conjoined twin where one fetus stops developing but remains attached to its twin. The other twin continues to develop, but is usually born with the limbs, organs or other tissue structures from its parasitic twin still attached. It's a very rare condition. Parasitic twins are a very rare type of conjoined twin that occur in fewer than 1 in 1 million births worldwide.
i dont think you would see anything on a genome - its not genetic. most cases seem to present clinically at some point, and no one has presented with it after the age of 50. i think there's only been like 7 adults diagnosed. maybe if you did an mri on everyone in the world you might find a few more.
Dude could've just gone to the hospital and complained of lower right abdominal pain. The scans could've showed the issue. It would've been better than removing one of your own intestines without anesthesia.
Psychiatrist are the doctors who make the decision to give psychotropic medication. And diagnosis of schizophrenia is not so easy to diagnose. Tv shows put all kinds of ideas in people’s heads.
My nephew absorbed his twin. At age four he had to have surgery to have the twin removed. Hair, a few baby teeth still in a part of a gum line, and one tiny leg. He had always complained his tummy hurts and the doctors finally found it. It does happen.
omg, poor wee fella. Glad they helped him. Hope he has a blessed life.
One of those rare occasions where the patient says I told you so
not that rare, doctors are just loathe to actually listen to their patients.
You have no idea!!!
In real life the doctors would have ordered a CAT scan or MRI right away.
I love how they didn’t do any tests or scans and just slapped him into a sleep.
They needed to sedate him to clean the would and stitch it up. And every time he was awake, he tried to dig into his own abdomen. It's not insane to keep someone like that drugged up.
@@Goomsies true
Sometimes they gotta do that
Same😢 straight into him...
sometimes they need to do that to stop the patient from making it more difficult, like this in case he was trying to basically rip himself open
Dr Charles thank you for not jumping to psychogenic disorder like EVERY other doctor!!!!
this. she was annoying me to no end. "so start him on antipsychotics..." so flippant. it's not an advil lady.
Fetus in Fetu scares me a lot. Your own twin is feeding of you as a parasite… SCARY!
Love you and hope you have a great day today 💗
That would be scary to have an absorbed foetus living off of you.
I done a report on this for my CNA school. Best report ever. 😂😂😂😂
Yup!!! Terrible. I don’t even want to imagine this
@Appleduck2007 That's basically pregnancy lol
"Everything I've learned about human nature; still can't see things coming."
Hahah like same😂
would've seen it coming if they had just LISTENED TO THE PATIENT in the first place. would it have been so hard to at least do an x-ray or CT scan before going "WELP HE'S CRAZY, DRUG HIM UP FELLAS"?
@@dietotakuthose are expensive and they had no real reason too
What do you mean by human nature, we are all animals human is just what we define ourselves as, it's like a status a false system designed to give us a false glorified purpose which is non existent.
@@dietotaku”I CAN FEEL SOMETHING INSIDE OF ME” + “Yeah, he has no history of hallucinations” apparently equals “Yeah, he’s crazy”
“I can feel it inside of me”
“HoW dId He KnOw?”
Absorbed twin, so it likely had at least a rudimentary nervous system, I'm guessing it was twitching or moving enough to greatly alarm the poor guy.
EEWWW! 😅@@terramarini6880
I was like "how dumb are you" because he could feel it inside the stomach
@@CanadianFurry78have you never seen absorbed twins before it is very weird where they will be
That is actually quite horrifying if you ask me. Bizzare yes but terrifying yes.
It's something that does happen.
its' fake
It does happen search sanju bhagat a man who had his twin for 30 years.
@@jamedlock83 it is. But this infact does happen. Wether you like it or not.
Yes but im with the lab guy..its f cool
Love the way they were just going to start the poor guy on anti-psychotic meds without even discussing it with him, let alone getting his consent.
If a person can't legally connect it up to his guardian or hospital to make decisions on his be half
Consent goes out the window when somebody tries to operate on themselves.
@@louiscyphre2267usually requires a court order though
@@kaeldare if a mental health doc clears them has mental insane then they can't make medical decisions
@kaeldare is he a danger to himself or others?
That twin mad that he got absorbed so he destroyed him from the inside
😂
As a behavioral health professional Charles is absolutely right. Sometimes you have to see "threats" as opportunities both for gaining better knowledge on your patient and also for you to work with them through the problem if possible. The psychology field can be draining because theres only so much you can really do before its up to the patient to put in work.
It's frustrating they didn't just give him an X ray to put it to rest, neither doctor even considered the possibility that there Actually was something inside of him.
I'm also,one,so true. The mind is so complex. That's why it's challenging but, fascinating.
Yep,I'm still a total nerd.;)
@@DefileOdds This is something that often happens especially if a person was diagnosed with a disorder that causes hallucinations and/or delusions previously. Doctors will often ignore very real health issues because they assume its just a symptom of their disorder. They really should just do these check ups anyways even if they dont think its true. It saves both the patient and the doctor time and money in the long run if there IS something wrong.
I use to go to St. Elizabeth and tell them something was in my head and that I could feel it especially when laying on the back of my head. After so many visit a week and them finding nothing I was deemed paranoid/ off my rocker. That's when I learned the hospital can actually deny seeing you if you don't give off visual signs of sickness/ emergency. I then start going to Baptist and told them the same thing. Baptist examine my head visually and said, oh you have infected hair follicles. These many years later I still have them,but just having a name to the problem/ pain and light bleeding when shampooing my hair or scratching my scalp put me at ease.
And I’ll bet the infected follicles could really feel odd and kind of upsetting
😅😮
I had infected hair follicles on my legs once - I couldn't imagine having them on the scalp 😵 I'm glad u found someone who listened to u 🙌🏽
Infuriating that they don't for a SECOND consider the possibility that there Actually IS something inside him, last episode i saw them pull a 25 foot tape worm from a womans stomach so why is this hard to believe!?!?
Because, as pointed out, his behavior shows a lot of similarities to schizophrenia or being strung out. They wanted to try to get him into a state where they felt he was mentally sound enough to work with, before just presuming that he in fact had something inside him. He did not appear to be rational.
Rule of drama.
@@Mokiefraggle The problem with that assumption is when really scary things happen to people, they actually tend to present the same as psych patients who only *believe* something is happening to them. Those psych patients are actually having a normal reaction to an extreme situation that almost anyone would have, the only abnormal part is they're imagining the situation. Then you try to medicate the non-psych patients, and it does nothing because the problem is not imagined, maybe the drugs even interact with the problem and kills the patient if you're unlucky. If someone doesn't have a psych history, and they make a physical complaint, you really do need to listen to them- always presuming psych problems first is only done as standard in the medical practice of a few countries, mostly ones with bad drug & mental health problems, and it's a very poor adaptation to the situation. Heck, here in Italy my known schizophrenic cousin still gets physical exams first, even if they think he skipped his meds. They don't just dismiss every problem as psychosis, that would be mad.
Anyways that said this whole medical drama seems very dumb, I don't think I'll watch it, or probably any drama lol
@@Mokiefraggle Wrong! They should have ruled out a physical cause before assuming he was having a psychotic break. If there was a physical cause, delays can be dangerous or deadly. Psychiatric conditions are rarely so time sensitive. Maybe they should have restrained him to keep him from additional self harm while those tests were being done, but they needed to be done first!
There are so many weird conditions that can happen during pregnancy. Absorbed twin is just one of them. Being a chimera is another one, where fraternal twins begin, but one twin absorbs the DNA of the other and ends up with two sets of DNA. It is extremely rare, but it happens. Look it up.
I know this is unrelated but the 25 foot tape worm is from House MD, this is Chicago Med
first thing you should do anyway was a scan to check if he had something like drugs or something...
It’s a tv show.
Suspend your disbelief.
Checking for drugs was literally the first thing they did....
@@hblake5213 i think they mean drug sachets too, stuff that would show up on a scan
good lord Dr. Reese has a weird obsession with schizophrenia in this clip apparently in the beginning
It's right after her getting attacked by a patient basically. She goes overboard in preventing attacks pretty much for the rest of her character arc
I feel it was a little too strong of an "obsession" (I don't know the right word. But not really an obsession, motivator maybe).
@@anonymous112 the only thing she becomes is a problem, an she never grew.
Wait but ur actually right 🤣
@@takumi2023 okay maybe I chose a wrong word for it but that's how it looks like from my point of view in the beginning of this clip
You do NOT want to mess with someone with an absorbed twin! They have the combined strength of an adult human and a fetus!
😂
Got his ass whooped by Prison Mike though
@@pbkimblee1858 Especially when the dementors were flyin' all around!
Soooooo, no ultra sound performed or lab work before they diagnose. Just automatic dismiss him. And wanting to start him on drugs..... smh
Schizophrenia is a more common condition that would explain the patient's report.
Fetus in fetu is comparatively rare.
@@moonman239and how common are tape worms and other parasites?
The good old “Treat ‘em and street ‘em”!
Welcome to healthcare in America.
I wish they showed them telling the patient. That had to have been validating for him!
It doesn’t matter.
He could tell if it was removed.
The way dr Charles spawned out of nowhere
lol welcome to the ✨power of editing✨:)
@@lucythevaliantbookreader7639 Imao and the other episode when nat said maybe it’s a psych problem and he appeared
@@BratCharlie08 he be like "did I hear PSYCH????"
@@lucythevaliantbookreader7639 did I hear psych, Oml I love this show it’s kinda the reason why I am studying to become an ed doctor Imao
@@BratCharlie08 Yes this show is SOOOO good! That's AWESOME btw! This show has ignited my love for medicine and has kept me inspired to become a pediatric nurse :)
I'd immediately demand a new doctor if they sedated me while i was trying to explain the issue, way too aggressive in their demeanor and distance from the patient.
Years ago I met a classmate from 'German high school' and we talked about how our lives have developed. We talked a lot and she told me she had been in panic due to possible cancer. Fortunately it had been an absorbed twin as well and 'her sibbling' had been removed.
Yes, a partially developed fetus can be absorbed by a normally developing fetus in the womb, a condition called fetus-in-fetu. This rare condition affects about 1 in 500,000 births. The absorbed twin can share some physical features with a normal fetus, but it has no chance of survival outside of the host twin and can threaten the host twin's life.
The absorbed twin's organs have a working blood supply from the host, but it lacks a functional brain, heart, lungs, gastrointestinal tract, and urinary tract. In some cases, the absorbed twin can be found as a mass of tissue or bone inside the abdomen of the surviving twin. For example, a baby girl born in Hong Kong had a growth on her left side that contained what appeared to be absorbed siblings. A teenager in India was also found to have a mass of bone, teeth, and hair in her abdomen that was the result of fetus-in-fetu.
@pyrpleflower7 That's true. There was a baby that born in China with 4 legs and 4 hands a result of of her parasitic twin
Also close to the stone baby that women can have sometimes.
Watching this now made me realized Dr Reese doesn't seem to have much empathy for others. She so clinical in her work it's almost scary.
Im pretty sure she showed signs of psychopathy, I think that was a whole part of her character
@@MakenahNelsonWasn't her Dad a serial killer or something?
She's always given me very bad vibes.
@@Sourcoolness yes
I never understood why she chose psychiatry instead of emergency medicine. She is clearly not suited for it.
Absolutely NO damn way, he wasn’t screaming in pain. He had his hand AND wrist inside his body and pulled out a damn Intestine. Does this man not feel pain!?!
He was still drugged I think
This condition is like a rite of passage for medical shows
Why?
He had a really strong "gut" feeling
And then that gut was spilled out of him.
Underrated comment lol
You CANNOT give a patient ANY meds that they dont consent to! Period! That's grounds for a serious lawsuit! The second he said no, she should have left the room! Immediately! This is why you listen to patients before jumpjng to conclusions!
I though he was crazy at first until the surgery happened
So the thing they took out. So it was either a living parasite or a conjoined twin living in his organs.
Haven't seen the full episode but it's possible the patient has chimerism, a condition also discussed in House MD, where a twin cell is absorbed in the womb.
It was alive but had no independent activity and was dependent on him for sustenance, hence being considered parasitic. Fetus in fetu, mentioned in the clip, is the specific condition. There's multiple hypotheses of how these tumour-like parasites arise, the clip specifically mentions the parasitic twin hypothesis (in which a twin is absorbed in the womb and becomes dependent upon the sibling's body to survive). Another hypothesis is that they're highly-developed teratomas, in which the body starts to grow tissues in places they're usually absent, but those are usually bizarre mish-mashes of tissues instead of anything that actually resembles a fetus.
It’s intriguing
I had a sack of various types of cells in my brain that, over 45 years, grew to be 2 inches x 2 1/2 inches x 3 inches, compressing my brain before it was discovered at the age of 45 yrs.. The cyst was between the skull and the brain. Once discovered, it was removed. There were most types of body cells within it, but they did not organize or move to their correct position to form a fetus. I never asked the surgeon about it being a reabsorbed twin, but with my background in science education (Ed.D.) and my brother being an M. D., we both assumed it was an absorbed twin. I named it The Alien so that I didn't have to think about the surgeon removing something from my brain. Yes, there are minor side effects, but after 23 years, my body has compensated for the compression to an extent. I still have a rather large hole in my brain.
@ew6483 Yes it was also on Grey's anatomy. Good recall
I do not get why they did not even look into physiological causes first instead of just outright assume drug abuse…at least do some scans. A foreign object that large would have been obvious.
Not necessarily. It's entirely possible that it would have been hidden by organs, or wouldn't have shown on the typical sorts of scans (X-ray or ultrasound), because of the placement and the fact that it's clearly a soft tissue mass. Also, if they _had_ detected it, all that would've done was led to a biopsy and a distinct possibility of a "well, it's benign, no need to remove it" response that wouldn't stop the guy from just turning around and carving himself open again. Also, given that he was screaming about a _person living inside him,_ it reads like clear psychosis or drug withdrawal. He's not rational, he's insisting that a living thing is inside of him (not that he has a mass or other foreign object, but a person. Nobody is going to hear that, see what he did, and not feel that he's more likely a mental patient than someone who actually has an internal mass.
I bet it isn't even paying rent.
Classic, man. 😂😂
So he was totally right to do what he did because the doctors would not listen to him or even look with an X-Ray to humor him, if he hadnt operated on himself he would have been put on drugs and committed. Really cool good doctors here. Then they just shrug and say "Wowie look at that" when proven wrong.
This is a time in which a safety observer and restraints would be in order. Especially when the patient had already cut into himself. They should have cleared all items from the room that he could use to harm himself. Glad they got the twin out of him but they should have protected him as well.
Yeah I’m pretty shocked restraints weren’t the first thought considering they knew from the beginning that his wound was self-inflicted. I guess they were pretty confident that amount of sedative would work.
@@renownedbandanawearer1345 Absolutely 💯 correct
I have to wonder what effect psych meds would have on a normal brain. Can't be good.
Some of them cause tardive dyskinesia which can be permanent. Happened to my brother who IS schizophrenic, he has permanent lock jaw like symptoms from the spasms. Eating, dental visits, etc. are difficult for him.
No mri, no X-ray, no scan of any sort - just fill ‘im up with anti psychotic drugs and call it a day!🙄
I mean look at what he was doing and saying and especially how he phrased it. Why would you expect them to believe him?
@@Greenhawk4 if I had something growing inside me I'd act insane too. Having a foreign life in your body is maddening.
@@jadecoolness101 still it’s like I said it would be hard for them to believe you.
Fetus In Fetu is rare, but there have been cases of it happening. I actually heard of one case where a little girl was undergoing brain surgery for what was thought to be a tumor, but it actually turned out to be an absorbed twin.
I get it… the absorbed twin was still alive, living in his brother. It was moving and may have even been connected to his brain and central nervous system. That’s how he knew, both that it was happening and where.
No, it's not alive or moving. That was literally just a mass of tissue with no capacity for movement. Fetus-in-fetu is basically just a very elaborate tumor that science isn't even certain _is_ actually an absorbed fetal twin. It's usually implied to happen early enough in gestation that the bodies haven't truly developed outside of some basic cellular individualization, so there's no real way it would have any sort of muscle fibers or anything that could cause it to move. He was probably having some sort of mental break due to feeling it possibly pressing on something and causing discomfort, but it's not like there was an actual living, possibly aware entity inside of him.
Rather than fetus-in-fetu, I would have diagnosed him with one of those parasitic aliens like in the movie with Sigourney Weaver.
Normal tissue in your body does move. Your brain just blocks it out. If he was able to feel the "mass", then there was probably some kind of recent change to it. Something different that his brain hadn't blocked yet. As for knowing the exact location, it is possible. Some people are more in tune with their internal structure than others. Some people can "feel" things better than average. Super nerves. There is a very painful test to figure that out. Personal experience. I can pinpoint the exact location my pain is coming from and what structure it is in. But, I have a grasp of anatomy.
@@dr.g3860 Alien.
I mean c'mon, rookie mistake letting a guy who sliced himself open lie there with a blanket obscuring his abdomen, saw that coming the moment that scene started
Just do a MRI of his abdominal area.
That would mean they believed him.
Better just throw meds at it.
first chicago med video that actually terrified me😭😭
Same. That's scary to have something in you that literally makes you go insane
Yeah… like my God… what instinct! 🫣
🤢
Found myself repeatedly asking “why don’t you scan him?”
Scans don’t pick up everything.
I wanted to see the "I told you so," moment.
Its scary that its so easy for a human to get to theyre own insides
Thank goodness most of us would never contemplate such a thing
I think it’s crazy that if they don’t believe it, they are going to take pro cautions 2:24 like wtf that YOU DON’T believe! Doesn’t say it’s not true
Not me gagging 4 times and throwing up once because I accidentally clicked onto this vid with a weak stomach-
One thing I have learned from watching these clips is that not everything related to the particular case is shown. That you need to watch the whole episode to know what all happened.
He has a genetic condition called chimerisim that is caused by two twin eggs merging or reabsorb together when there is not enough room inside the womb for two eggs to stay separated and develop into fetuses. I feel sorry for these reabsorbed twins.
I think you’re incorrect I think a chimera is a person with two different colored eyes were two people have people together not an embryo left inside someone.
Looks like you might’ve been partially right.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk the genetic condition where a person is born with two different color of eyes is called "heterochromia".
@@christineking2855 google says that’s where they’re born with an eye with multicolors not like one are green and one I blew or something like that unless I misread it. I wouldn’t be too quick not to draw the assumption that these people could be Nephilim.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Heterochromia is at its most extreme expression capable of making a person's eyes completely mismatched. Total heterochromia will do that. Most often, it results in patches of a different color within both eyes (I have a friend with partial heterochromia, giving him blotches of hazel in otherwise blue eyes). Chimerism is when two zygotes fuse in the womb, but due to having subtle differences beginning to develop genetically, the fusion is not perfect. This can lead to mismatched eyes of varying degrees, different hair textures on each side of the head, and a variety of other subtle mismatches that show that a person is actually two in one. The most noteworthy case is a woman who was believed to not be her son's biological mother, because he needed a kidney donor, and hers was shown not to be a genetic match. It was found that she had different genomes in different organs and other areas of her body, such that her ovaries and the eggs they carried were genetically different from the DNA in her kidneys, leading to an extended court case.
This is a case wherein a fetus is spontaneously absorbed by another at a later point in development (or at least, this is what is believed to have happened, similar to a parasitic twin), and never fully developed. As such, it's just a slightly differentiated clump of tissues, not a proper fetus, that exists as a tumor-like growth inside the fully developed twin.
I wish they told him that he is indeed right n isn’t indeed insane they should apologize anyways
This is part of the story of "The Troublesome Offspring of Cardinal Guzman" by Louis de Bernieres.
classic sindrome "to a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
To a psychiatrist, every one looks crazy
to a surgen, every case needs to open the patient up
When I saw this episode I was shocked to see this.
Omg they diagnosed before even a tox screen? Damn
Dr Reese being insufferable as usual.
Yeah
what did she do 💀
4:08 oh my god
alex: I CAN FEEL IT INSIDE ME
me in my african accent era: IF U DONT WANT TO DIE NOW THEN YOU WILL PUT THOES FOOLISH DEMONIC HANDS AWAY
me in my doctor era: oh my gosh are u ok, ok SIR WE HAVE A PROBLEM try to put ur hands away ok we will sort it out
me irl: 👁 👄 👁
Why not do a scan and show him there isn’t anything inside (if there really wasn’t anything) ?
this show spits in the face of the masterpiece that was house
House 👎! I hate the way that program treats nurses 😠.
So no one initially looked at his stomach? No scan, no ultrasound, no nothing. I hate when shows skip something basic that should have been done initially just to drag on an episode.
I thought he was doing something as they were speaking
just from this scene(s) alone its clear shes a problem..
Glad my twin is alive
This video is indicitove of many patient's experience around the country. Doctors are terrible listeners.
And they didnt have him strapped down
This is real it happened to ppl before
I'm absolutely terrified of having something going on and having doctors just drug me.
The more we learn the more we see what little we have learned.
Well I just don't understand why they didn't check the patient complaint about his pain at first.
The scary thing is that they didn't even scan to see if he was right i get human error is a thing but if someone say theres something inside them it shouldn't be impossible to look and do test before assuming he's a druggie or crazy
4:15 So insane!😳
Aaaaaah!!! *Passed Out* 😵💫
Omg yes
Bro was a hand deep in his belly
His Guts ?
She should of been fired that’s why I hate a lot of these doctors now days instead of running test or listening to the patient they just feel on u n tell u to take this and if u have problems comeback. Missing the point which is if u do your job I won’t have to come back 🤦♂️
I was eating noodles bro😭
5:33 the way she said that IS it a Tumor?
This is scary ❤❤❤❤❤
Why the hearts?
they didn’t even bother with an ultrasound yet they just called him crazy? sick.
That first split second she almost hit that other woman in the face due to moving so quickly.
Oh yeah 😂
There was like this movie where a guy was like in all sorts of pain and all and then an alien monster popped out of his chest and all. So, yeh, this sort of things can happen.
Fetus in fetu isn’t the same as the chestburster scene in _Alien,_ but it’s easy to see why your mind could go down that particular rabbit hole after watching this!
Twin bro wasn’t paying rent, I don’t blame him for wanting it out 😂
Love yall
Umm…why not just do an ultrasound? This is pretty realistic…dismiss the patient’s complaint, tell him it’s in his head, assume he’s crazy. So accurate
because hes literally tore into himself saying theres something living inside of him. Its not realistic to do an ultrasound for that its much more realistic to consult a psychologist.
@@Lilithotw if someone says they feel something moving around inside of them, roll an ultrasound in the room and prove them wrong. Apparently it’s not that difficult since they ended up doing, an ultrasound.
The fact at 3:28 you can see him ripping himself open thought
OMG!!! It's Livingston Dell from the Ocean's trilogy! KNEW I recognized him!
"right upper quadrant" ...its right lower quadrant lol
He knew where it was because of instinct? 🤔 WTF? 🤣😂 I guess he Didn't feel it at all!
All they to do was take a scan of his body to see if he really had anything living inside of him. Stupid people.
Scary episode😱😱
I had a real tough time watching that.
That is so DAMN freaky!😱 I have to ask though. Are things like that really possible?
You should check out the 1979 movie Alien with Sigourney Weaver.
Yes, google chimerism
it can happen but it is rare, it's called parasite twin, A parasitic twin is a type of conjoined twin where one fetus stops developing but remains attached to its twin. The other twin continues to develop, but is usually born with the limbs, organs or other tissue structures from its parasitic twin still attached. It's a very rare condition. Parasitic twins are a very rare type of conjoined twin that occur in fewer than 1 in 1 million births worldwide.
We actually don't know how rare it is and won't unless we map everyone's genome@pinkpastelhearts
i dont think you would see anything on a genome - its not genetic. most cases seem to present clinically at some point, and no one has presented with it after the age of 50. i think there's only been like 7 adults diagnosed. maybe if you did an mri on everyone in the world you might find a few more.
How he would know that sth is living inside him? Because he feels pain coming from that area
Dude could've just gone to the hospital and complained of lower right abdominal pain. The scans could've showed the issue. It would've been better than removing one of your own intestines without anesthesia.
Could he have sued them?
My sister was next to me when he pulled out his gut then 2 secs later she moved away to another corner to use her phone
my sister had her unborn twinsister inside her for 34 years...
i honestly thought he had a massive parasite/worm at 4:16
Bro needs the med kit from restored reels
I think,
I'm going to be sick 🤢🤢🤢
"Medacadaseedawite" relatable.
doesn't everyone know about secret twins?!
I really don’t like dr.reese tbh
i agree, always assuming everything
She is gorgeous. I am very easily influenced by looks. 🫥
Sucks for you
@@midnight_x_edits she’s a fictional character you know? 💀 chill
Psychiatrist are the doctors who make the decision to give psychotropic medication. And diagnosis of schizophrenia is not so easy to diagnose. Tv shows put all kinds of ideas in people’s heads.